Free To Choose - Milton Friedman on The Welfare System (1978) | Thomas Sowell

2019 ж. 15 Қыр.
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Milton Freidman, in the fourth segment of the series, shows why he believes government-run welfare programs do not help the people they are intended to help or achieve the ends they are intended to achieve, and why the "welfare state" leads to loss of initiative, independence, and personal liberty. Friedman compares slum areas and luxury apartments of New York City, visits two families on welfare, one in Harlem and one in Britain, and argues in favor of the negative income tax. Featuring Thomas Sowell.
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Milton Friedman (/ˈfriːdmən/; July 31, 1912 - November 16, 2006) was an American economist who received the 1976 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences for his research on consumption analysis, monetary history and theory and the complexity of stabilization policy.[4] With George Stigler and others, Friedman was among the intellectual leaders of the second generation of Chicago school of economics, a methodological movement at the University of Chicago's Department of Economics, Law School and Graduate School of Business from the 1940s onward. Several students and young professors who were recruited or mentored by Friedman at Chicago went on to become leading economists, including Gary Becker, Robert Fogel, Thomas Sowell[5] and Robert Lucas Jr.[6]
Friedman's challenges to what he later called "naive Keynesian" theory[7] began with his 1950s reinterpretation of the consumption function. In the 1960s, he became the main advocate opposing Keynesian government policies[8] and described his approach (along with mainstream economics) as using "Keynesian language and apparatus" yet rejecting its "initial" conclusions.[9] He theorized that there existed a "natural" rate of unemployment and argued that unemployment below this rate would cause inflation to accelerate.[10] He argued that the Phillips curve was in the long run vertical at the "natural rate" and predicted what would come to be known as stagflation.[11] Friedman promoted an alternative macroeconomic viewpoint known as "monetarism" and argued that a steady, small expansion of the money supply was the preferred policy.[12] His ideas concerning monetary policy, taxation, privatization and deregulation influenced government policies, especially during the 1980s. His monetary theory influenced the Federal Reserve's response to the global financial crisis of 2007-2008.[13]
Friedman was an advisor to Republican President Ronald Reagan[3] and Conservative British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.[2] His political philosophy extolled the virtues of a free market economic system with minimal intervention. He once stated that his role in eliminating conscription in the United States was his proudest accomplishment. In his 1962 book Capitalism and Freedom, Friedman advocated policies such as a volunteer military, freely floating exchange rates, abolition of medical licenses, a negative income tax and school vouchers[14] and opposed the war on drugs. His support for school choice led him to found the Friedman Foundation for Educational Choice, later renamed EdChoice. - wikipedia
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  • Thomas Sowel should've been the first black president in America and not because of his race but of his knowledge and wisdom..

    @joelpacheco4748@joelpacheco47483 жыл бұрын
    • 🤖

      @benisturning30@benisturning303 жыл бұрын
    • America still has never had a Black president

      @toddmaek5436@toddmaek54363 жыл бұрын
    • @antwinettec cardi b is s latina, she aint black

      @toddmaek5436@toddmaek54363 жыл бұрын
    • @@toddmaek5436 lol

      @12dancycle@12dancycle3 жыл бұрын
    • @@toddmaek5436 "Latina" means that she comes from Latin America

      @Gustavo-fs7kf@Gustavo-fs7kf3 жыл бұрын
  • This was filmed in 1978. It is now 45 years later. Look at how society has declined. Its shocking. Dr. Sowell has been speaking the truth for all this time. The man is a national treasure.

    @RubyTwilite@RubyTwilite7 ай бұрын
    • yup

      @onedisasterattatime9116@onedisasterattatime91164 ай бұрын
    • But people still blame it on capitalism, real socialism has never been tried....

      @lisettem1009@lisettem10094 ай бұрын
    • @@lisettem1009 It has. It failed. It led to communism and destruction, misery and death. It doesn't work. Go read Atlas Shrugged.

      @RubyTwilite@RubyTwilite4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@lisettem1009 always the same "real socialism". Maybe because it is impossible. It will always fail. As it starts to fail, the damned "politic" in charge will say he needs more power and will, eventually - or should I say "will, as conseqyence" - become a dictator as ANYWHERE IT WAS TRIED. Captalism believees in the price system created by the people naturally, without the need for intervention of humans. The price system is the product of people trading for what they need. Socialism will ALWAYS derive to dictatorship. Because it depends on the good will of people. And People will ALWAYS choose the easier way, just like electricity or water will "unconciously choose" the path with less resistance. We, as living beings, are the same. Nobody wants to work. Captalism make people WANT TO WORK. Because for every weight you put on something, you see some result without depending on people. You need people for the interactions and it's not perfect. But the less people deciding, the better

      @rsm1234@rsm12343 ай бұрын
    • @@lisettem1009 Curious - What is Real Socialism specifically?

      @ethimself5064@ethimself50643 ай бұрын
  • Its crazy how 50yrs later we are discussing and having the same issues so obviously this still is not working when gov is involved

    @cheweyrp@cheweyrp8 ай бұрын
    • There's no solution that the government can provide

      @zuzanazuscinova5209@zuzanazuscinova52095 ай бұрын
    • "government spending is out of control" Milton Friedman circa 1970. 33.5 trillion debt later....

      @michaeldoran4367@michaeldoran43672 ай бұрын
  • Amazing how much more respectful and respectable people conducted themselves then.

    @NBAballToWalls@NBAballToWalls8 ай бұрын
    • No mainstream rap music. Three TV channels for most. No cellphones (therefore no smartphones). No personal computers. No internet. A more structured society. Hollywood entertainment hadn’t yet degraded to constant swearing and toilet humor. College degrees actually meant something. Less outside distractions. More down to earth city officials and politicians. More purpose in life. No excessive entertainment like playing video games or streaming hundreds of movies/shows. Etiquette was still understood by people. Kids were more encouraged to write in cursive. More people read books. More people could research on their own (rather than take the easy way out like web searching). More people understood the threat of nuclear bombs from the ensuing Cold War.

      @KratostheThird@KratostheThird4 ай бұрын
    • When people knew how to disagree without being disagreeable.

      @528Circle@528Circle2 ай бұрын
    • I also thought the sane way after watching this discussion or debate. I to felt the same way and said back then we were able to have different opinions and encouraged those who had different opinions. Why is it different today? There's more than one reason, but I think one main reason is we were more educated bavk then , than we are today. We embraced being unique and encouraged independent thinking.

      @Nate-cg9mm@Nate-cg9mm6 күн бұрын
  • Can you imagine a debate like this taking place today? No identity attacks, no name-calling - how far we've fallen.

    @blakej6416@blakej64163 жыл бұрын
    • I was thinking how "civil" these conversations were, considering the number of people on the panel, and how the panel spent more time listening than "yelling". This isn't Jerry Springer! Thank goodness. You're right! How far we've fallen.

      @waynemiller6070@waynemiller60703 жыл бұрын
    • Gutter.

      @robertwalker7010@robertwalker70103 жыл бұрын
    • I'm not sure we watched the same debate. They were definitely attacking each other. Maybe it was too subtle for you

      @Smoomty@Smoomty3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Smoomty they attached each other's ideas & rhetoric. That's at the very least a productive action. Nowadays many debates & discussions resort to attacks based on identity as they don't know how to combat their ideas. They just know they don't like them.

      @bbbbbbb51@bbbbbbb513 жыл бұрын
    • It's like Mel Brooks said at 92," I couldn't make Blazing Saddles today".

      @isorokudono@isorokudono3 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell is still a magnificent man. He’s 90 and sharp as a tack.

    @adart2496@adart24963 жыл бұрын
    • It's why i came here because i started a Thomas Sowell binge at 3am😆..basically got a video on what socialism looked like back then..then came the debate!..i was in debate class but was in the back or didnt show up..now im taking notes on what to say to mf's who wanna try me..but nah im just educating myself and im tired of the people on facebook ha..felt like i was on crazy pills

      @sgt1terrence@sgt1terrence3 жыл бұрын
    • I would like to hear Mr. Sowell response to the protest at the Capital building yesterday, how the news responded, etc.

      @NegritaBrujita@NegritaBrujita3 жыл бұрын
    • @@NegritaBrujita Me too. There’s so many problems with the ‘protest’ and the fallout. It’s hard to defend- and hard to turn your back on- knowing what is happening in the the last year specifically and the last 30?+ years in general. We’ve arrived at a bad place no matter what side of the aisle you prefer.

      @fishhuntadventure@fishhuntadventure3 жыл бұрын
    • Friedman's works are must-reads. As for Sowell, he writes very well also. Clear, concise, and consistent. No moral relativism in HIS makeup. Always hits the mark in talks and articles. I haven't caught anything recently, but I always read his articles on Townhall.com. I've got two of his books. Lucid, relevant, and timeless.

      @abcde_fz@abcde_fz3 жыл бұрын
    • @@sgt1terrence I'm assuming that the people who are debating you are in favor of socialism?!

      @lexhashim8671@lexhashim86713 жыл бұрын
  • Watching Tom Sowell in a debate makes me proud to be an American.

    @egolayer13@egolayer132 жыл бұрын
  • "You mean separate the hopes from the reality ..." Intellectual brutality. Nothing gets past this man. Nothing.

    @jeffreytackett3922@jeffreytackett39222 жыл бұрын
    • Sowell has some good zingers, if that's how you like to make national policy decisions.

      @AdamDeRidder@AdamDeRidder Жыл бұрын
    • @@msimmons3877 Neo liberal capitalist policies have only furthered the break up of working class families of all colors. Clinton "Ended Welfare as Welfare Know It." Capitalism with it boom and bust cycles along with the search for cheaper labor breaks up workers families. Join a union and fight back. .

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@AdamDeRidderA nice ambiguous statement.

      @warnerchandler9826@warnerchandler98268 ай бұрын
    • @@AdamDeRidderhe didn’t say that’s how he’d like to. He didn’t even imply it. He referred to Sowell’s critique.

      @leonhughes134@leonhughes1346 ай бұрын
  • Woman: I’m not making them have illegitimate children! Sowell: you don’t have to make them you simply subsidize it. This kills me every time

    @channelname5345@channelname53453 жыл бұрын
    • So good

      @TomasSowellIsGreat@TomasSowellIsGreat3 жыл бұрын
    • Make love not war!

      @thomasreaves588@thomasreaves5883 жыл бұрын
    • Thing of beauty!

      @roberttuss5349@roberttuss53493 жыл бұрын
    • And what to do when a marriage breaks down or a man gets a woman pregnant and does a runner? Bringing up a child alone is very hard and stressful. One of the reasons conservatives and free marketeers end up despised is because they lack compassion for people in difficult situations.

      @philipmanchester5095@philipmanchester50953 жыл бұрын
    • @@philipmanchester5095 Victim?

      @oldsalt8011@oldsalt80113 жыл бұрын
  • Can you imagine the outcry if this aired on national TV today?

    @jn1mrgn@jn1mrgn4 жыл бұрын
    • Here’s some outcry: Something about this video Friedman made was, on an optical level, subtly prejudice towards black people in the way it married welfare in the US largely with black people, where white people are the largest group receiving it in the US. He showcased the UK system with whites because it closely related to the inner city systems he showed in the US that are historically black. And that’s where his argument can be made and ONLY made, in my opinion because his biggest critique of it is it keeps people from making a living and climbing this latter of “upward mobility” and “trickle down” economics given to us by a free market with readily available jobs . If he takes his argument to rural areas where there is no infrastructure for work as it is in the city, large groups of white people like in West Virginia, who literally live in crumbling housing in some parts and just collect welfare, his argument reveals itself to be a huge subjective straw man and kind of fizzles out. What’s his solution then? The negative income tax?

      @CapnBuzz@CapnBuzz3 жыл бұрын
    • @@CapnBuzz People are resourceful, they'll figure out a way to survive. Why are they sitting around in an area where there is nothing to do?

      @SidekickSam24@SidekickSam243 жыл бұрын
    • @@CapnBuzz if he didn’t obsess over American black people in the situation then no one would have cared. It’s during the era of the civil rights movement

      @muglymae7408@muglymae74083 жыл бұрын
    • @@SidekickSam24 fear and complacency?

      @muglymae7408@muglymae74083 жыл бұрын
    • yes it would go something like "nazi, anti semitic, racist, fascist, ultra far right hate propaganda"

      @billygiles3276@billygiles32763 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell is a total bad ass. His insight and absolute honesty, combined with his intelligence and logic is extremely difficult to argue with. I love him. I wish guys like him ran our country.

    @darrylsimons6737@darrylsimons67377 ай бұрын
    • Now wouldn't that be nice for a change? 😉

      @wolfgroeber7544@wolfgroeber75444 ай бұрын
    • So well constantly says I've talked to people who say ...... Just disregard whatever hey says next because he's lying.

      @James-hm8tq@James-hm8tq4 ай бұрын
    • I Agree!

      @user-pc5dg3ij1j@user-pc5dg3ij1j3 ай бұрын
    • But they don't because it's easier to judge on the sidelines with hindsight. Actually running a country requires different skills.

      @willwill235@willwill2352 ай бұрын
    • He's not honest. He dances around racism and discrimination by talking about China and certain people think he's a genuis. He's a mascot for conservative talking points.

      @notfromhere8889@notfromhere88892 ай бұрын
  • Freidman and Sowell in the same room is unstoppable.

    @ExMachina70@ExMachina702 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell 101 should be a required undergraduate course.

    @tugnuttmcgoo2995@tugnuttmcgoo29953 жыл бұрын
    • Thomas Sowell should be required reading for students from 6th grade through Masters degree !.....PERIOD END OF DISCUSSION !

      @fedupwithfedforever4151@fedupwithfedforever41512 жыл бұрын
    • Kindergarten, sesame street,

      @michaelcombrink8165@michaelcombrink81652 жыл бұрын
    • The leftist colleges will never let that happen, but most make it required to read Saul Alinsky. That should tell you all you need to know.

      @JohnWarner-lu8rq@JohnWarner-lu8rq3 ай бұрын
  • Thomas sowell should be on the twenty dollar bill

    @daddyndaughter6106@daddyndaughter61064 жыл бұрын
    • Should’ve been president

      @Perfectpearl@Perfectpearl3 жыл бұрын
    • A fitty dollar note

      @scottleft3672@scottleft36723 жыл бұрын
    • No doubt!

      @dayaaron87@dayaaron873 жыл бұрын
    • @@Perfectpearl Still can be

      @kevinratay8285@kevinratay82853 жыл бұрын
    • $100 bill!

      @kevinratay8285@kevinratay82853 жыл бұрын
  • Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell in the same room. Made my day.

    @jeffdigiovanni2139@jeffdigiovanni21395 ай бұрын
  • Milton Friedman and Sowell engaging is simply one of the best discourses you will ever see. Why don’t we have this anymore?

    @TrashDiscourse@TrashDiscourse2 жыл бұрын
    • Ironically, a big part of it is the welfare state.

      @Aeddy35@Aeddy35 Жыл бұрын
    • $$$$$

      @1who4me@1who4me Жыл бұрын
    • The days of the pendulum swing back and forth for the two party Bourgeois gentlemans debate are over. Trump blew the neoliberals out of the Republican water and Sanders came close to doing the same thing to the Democrats. .

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.8 ай бұрын
    • Because the left has eroded culture and society.. they have turned a society of respectful people in to a uncivilized immoral country so they dont have to try to defend the failure of their policies and uninformed people don't get a chance to hear different opinions other than the opinions of whacko leftist

      @markvolker1145@markvolker11455 ай бұрын
  • Public debates on sensitive topics, discussed by level head, logical and well educated individuals needs to make a comeback in American society

    @restoinpresto4025@restoinpresto40253 жыл бұрын
    • Cancel culture. Know what your young people are up to.

      @abcjerilee@abcjerilee3 жыл бұрын
    • Well said!

      @bigsleep32@bigsleep323 жыл бұрын
    • Can you imagine AOC in a debate like this?

      @kayvanepps8297@kayvanepps82973 жыл бұрын
    • @@kayvanepps8297 That cracks me up to think about! "Where is she?" LOL

      @abcjerilee@abcjerilee3 жыл бұрын
    • @@abcjerilee I'd pay to see it, lol...

      @kayvanepps8297@kayvanepps82973 жыл бұрын
  • I LOVE HOW THIS IS ACTUALLY A DEBATE BUT MORE FACTUAL THAN EMOTIONAL. MODERN DAY DEBATES ARE NOT SUCH.

    @crimewithwine@crimewithwine3 жыл бұрын
    • I hate modern day "debates". People try to win them instead of trying to learn from them.

      @2bobaf@2bobaf3 жыл бұрын
    • * cough * Trump-Biden debate "You're a racist!" "Your son's a junkie!" What happened...

      @songbird7450@songbird74503 жыл бұрын
    • why are you yelling

      @Omar_Facio@Omar_Facio3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Omar_Facio passion my friend...pure passion. Love this

      @crimewithwine@crimewithwine3 жыл бұрын
    • Agreed. I'd submit the reason, which you may already be aware of, is simply this : this civil discourse isn't as interesting to the minds of a modern audience (generally speaking). One may call it boring. On the other hand, emotionally driven opinions and debates seem to catch the attention of the modern day viewer more easily. The sensationalism, the drama, is far more craved to satisfy a viewing appetite, than the metaphorical "meat and potatoes" presented in the video, even though the older debate has far more substance, civility, patience, and intellect within it.

      @zurgnut@zurgnut2 жыл бұрын
  • Well here we are 50 years later and Sowell was 100% correct.

    @teddyjackson1902@teddyjackson19022 жыл бұрын
    • Correct about what? How neoliberal polices and capitalism have destroyed the working class family? That the bosses need to pay for the next generation just like they do for the elderly and disabled.

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@kimobrien. Yes, and welfare doesn't fix the problem. Instead it financially incentives people to trade pride for money and mothers to be single. What you speak of, would be best addressed by legislation and unions. Keep fostering unions, and fair pay legislation, so working is more attractive than being on welfare. We just have to fine tune the incentives for people, could've done that every 5 years. But now it's time for corpos to pay livable wages, thats the most appropriate solution.

      @PigeonLaughter01@PigeonLaughter018 ай бұрын
    • @@PigeonLaughter01 The workers need to take control of industry and government away from the bosses with a labor party based in the trade unions. Abolition of private property. The property used to exploit others. Use government funds to put people to work building things we need. Retool the arms plants. Send workers and construction materials to the third world.

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.8 ай бұрын
    • @@PigeonLaughter01 "welfare financially incentives people to trade pride for money and mothers to be single." That is such an unfathomably stupid take, it might be one of the dumbest I've ever heard. The fact that you think your thoughts on this matter are sensible and worth sharing, is in itself problematic.

      @fredrik8500@fredrik85007 ай бұрын
    • @@fredrik8500please elaborate

      @Hreodrich@Hreodrich7 ай бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell is over 90 yrs old now, but still arguably top intellectual of the modern era.

    @timmychang1791@timmychang17912 жыл бұрын
    • He is a mouthpiece for US big business at Stanford University Hoover Instition.

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.10 ай бұрын
    • Of course, hammer and a sickle. @@kimobrien.

      @hristiyanhristov2480@hristiyanhristov24808 ай бұрын
    • @@hristiyanhristov2480He gets paid to sing the song of an ever lasting Empire of American Imperialism. He talks of George Bush the honorable man not a spendthrift who wasted 5 trillion dollars on the bipartsan wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He said,"Vote Trump because he'd be easier to impeach." He just a two faction one bosses party economist. Doing his best to put out the needed propaganda to defend the bosses neoliberal disaster.

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.8 ай бұрын
  • My mother never worked she’s been on welfare for 60 years I start working wen my oldest went to school I’m 36 a nurse an been working the last 15 years my son 19 an he’s a welder an my youngest 10 honor roll student I’m jus saying I changed the cycle I never seen my mother work but my sons seen both of there parents work

    @ayo_marquis2245@ayo_marquis22453 жыл бұрын
    • wow. i've always thought that being dependent on welfare too long makes a person lose ambition to do more with their life. i'm glad you had motivation to move ahead and be the example that your children need to see.

      @janethefriend-awakened33@janethefriend-awakened333 жыл бұрын
    • I was just telling my younger cousin about breaking cycles.

      @mariagreen1354@mariagreen13543 жыл бұрын
    • My respect to you 👏🏻

      @fioredeutchmark@fioredeutchmark3 жыл бұрын
    • You're awesome. I assume you already know that.

      @thelz7909@thelz79093 жыл бұрын
    • Bless you and your family I wish your future generations the prosperity you deserve

      @muscleman1993@muscleman19933 жыл бұрын
  • It's hard not to feel that society has become less intelligent and able to have discussions like these.

    @dorwood73@dorwood733 жыл бұрын
    • Honest discussion is not allowed in Leftist America.

      @timothyandrewnielsen@timothyandrewnielsen3 жыл бұрын
    • @Nicolas Frank No we are not.

      @timothyandrewnielsen@timothyandrewnielsen3 жыл бұрын
    • @Nicolas Frank It's not a dictatorship. And the supreme court just recently become more "Republican". If you go by the society, the norm is leftist america. Turn on any tv, watch any movie,.. it's all pro leftist and anti- conservative. Leftists control most of the internet and media. There's a reason it's called FAKE NEWS.

      @timothyandrewnielsen@timothyandrewnielsen3 жыл бұрын
    • @Nicolas Frank as a Democrat I can tell you I'm disgusted in what we have become In Americans. We are no longer a country that has honest discussions because WE the left have made it more important to put people's feeling above facts. And truth is more hurtful even in a normal conversation. We did this.

      @mikemartins3297@mikemartins32973 жыл бұрын
    • @@mikemartins3297 see this is the problem right here. Instead of blaming the left for this or the right for that WE as in everybody need to realize both side have been stirring the pot, and the more we go back forth trying to throw blame on each other the more we get divided and nothing really changes. I'll leave with this, there is no such thing as a left or right america(usonia) especially with corporate bribes going on behind closed doors. Why else you think clark kent and superman don't shake hands man.

      @paulb2573@paulb25733 жыл бұрын
  • “Nobody spends somebody else’s money as carefully as he spends his own. Nobody has the same dedication to achieving somebody else’s objectives that he displays when he pursues his own.” - Milton Friedman…. Truer words have never been spoken….

    @Unknown2030U@Unknown2030U10 ай бұрын
    • So you want to get rid of health care, social security, food stamps and every social program and leave the poor to starve to death? Milton Friedmans philosophy was tried out during the Great depression. President Hoover sat on his ass and did NOTHING when the Great depression started in 1929. The result was a disaster. It took FDR almost ten years and a war to fix the mess that was left to him by the GOP, but he was able to turn things around and make America into the greatest country in the world. The new deal was necessary to get us out of a national crises in the 1930`s.

      @yellyman5483@yellyman548310 ай бұрын
    • True, but I wonder what Milton's take would be on human caused climate change?

      @Akira282@Akira2828 ай бұрын
    • @@Akira282 For Friedman and company markets are self regulating not under the control of the bosses using government to defend their profits above all else's. For Friedman's and Sowell capitalist marginalism to work markets must be ideal and the bosses must not be greedy and use their government to defend their naturally declining profit maximization system. Bosses like Friedman haven't got a clue. All they know and talk about is the love of money and gold. They've had the good life sitting on a perch paid for with the profits of the rent collecting bosses.

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.8 ай бұрын
    • @@Akira282he’d call it out for the complete scam it has proven to be. The climate alarmists have reversed their position constantly for the last 50+ years, have not once been correct, and their solutions are always exactly the same- more taxes and government control.

      @ab5olut3zero95@ab5olut3zero957 ай бұрын
    • Well he's a free market fundamentalist so obviously he either doesn't care about externalities or is indifferent to them.

      @anthonyesposito7@anthonyesposito77 ай бұрын
  • One thing I appreciate about Friedman is his respect and compassion for the poor and those on welfare.

    @ethanweeter2732@ethanweeter27322 жыл бұрын
    • That’s how we got into this mess! This altruistic “I’m here to help you poor losers” mentality that incentivizes and bails out peoples bad behavior Let them fail. They’ll learn or die. That’s nature

      @darbyohara@darbyohara9 ай бұрын
  • If we ever find the elixir of immortality, I suggest we give it to Thomas Sowell.

    @longliveliberty1220@longliveliberty12204 жыл бұрын
    • He already has it

      @PopeSixtusVI@PopeSixtusVI3 жыл бұрын
    • And Milton Friedman

      @dericksuapaia@dericksuapaia3 жыл бұрын
    • Correct

      @Perfectpearl@Perfectpearl3 жыл бұрын
    • @@dericksuapaia is too late for that :(

      @kevinleonardovazquezrivero5912@kevinleonardovazquezrivero59123 жыл бұрын
    • YES!!!!!

      @christianyellic3394@christianyellic33943 жыл бұрын
  • I enjoyed watching them engaged with each other in a civil, honest, intellectual, and respectable manner in spite of their differences...wish we had more of that today.

    @18temi@18temi4 жыл бұрын
    • Agree!

      @n34z3r@n34z3r3 жыл бұрын
    • @Top Gun you'd be surprised. The problem is the effort has to be made. If you make a point of having an honest, thoughtful, civil discussion, you'll find it's not that hard. The problem is too often we don't WANT that discussion. We want the snapback clapback mic drop moment. It's entertaining and satisfying, but much like a bag of cheap snacks, not very fulfilling. Nor is it productive to finding that proper balance between tradeoffs

      @yeldarb141983@yeldarb1419833 жыл бұрын
    • @Top Gun you can make the effort, though, it's not like your an automaton, programmed to act a certain way. It's not easy, but it is possible if you put in the effort = )

      @yeldarb141983@yeldarb1419833 жыл бұрын
    • We can, but we all need to tone it down a notch and listen first and react calmly.

      @2bobaf@2bobaf3 жыл бұрын
    • @Top Gun Yeah it has.

      @2bobaf@2bobaf3 жыл бұрын
  • A breath of fresh air. A smart, civil, calm, intellectual conversation regarding a crucial topic. Sweet Savor!

    @aishafryson5543@aishafryson5543 Жыл бұрын
  • I like that these episodes are full and not chopped into 100 scattered videos. Thank you.

    @chomnansaedan4788@chomnansaedan4788 Жыл бұрын
  • Notice who is debating who in this exchange... Two renowned economists (One of which grew up in Harlem before the welfare state) sitting across from two government bureaucrats who refuse to take off the rose-colored glasses to see that their life's work in the bureaucracy has led to nothing but more poverty and suffering for the people they aim to help. I think it's a no-brainer who is right and who is wrong here. Welfare had incredibly detrimental effects on society even then.

    @chasedudek9401@chasedudek94014 жыл бұрын
    • To me it is so reminiscent of 1984 (the book) everything comes down to the party. Loyalty to the party. Lying to your children about your own guilt in favor of the party even when it has turned on you. Saying no young ones do not blame the party, not under any circumstances. So they are corrupt to the core.

      @sethbishop6890@sethbishop68903 жыл бұрын
    • Wearing rose colored glasses makes all the red flags just look like flags

      @nathanatkins15t@nathanatkins15t3 жыл бұрын
    • It's not their fault, you haven't seen the kind of literature they've to feed to become bureaucrats.

      @arminius6506@arminius65063 жыл бұрын
    • The “even then” wasn’t that long ago. It’s almost today and directly has given us... today.

      @fishhuntadventure@fishhuntadventure3 жыл бұрын
    • Welfare is just scraps falling from the capitalists table.

      @rickydee5863@rickydee58633 жыл бұрын
  • Makes so much sense. People who lack ownership take less care of their shit.

    @andrewmorgan1083@andrewmorgan10833 жыл бұрын
    • Plato expressed this exact thing in The Republic. And yet we as humans still have not learned that lesson.

      @danieldietrich9969@danieldietrich99693 жыл бұрын
    • By design. Not coincidental, at all.

      @desmonddunn4348@desmonddunn43483 жыл бұрын
    • Absolutely true. In the Soviet Union, the collective farms where run like shit because no one cared. The people who were all forced to work there grew to taking whatever they could get away with for their personal households, again, because no one cared about what belongs to the government

      @katyakaterina0@katyakaterina03 жыл бұрын
    • What is owned by all is cared for by none. As certain as death and taxes.

      @loganstroganoff1284@loganstroganoff12843 жыл бұрын
    • It's more complicated that that.

      @r.p.5903@r.p.59033 жыл бұрын
  • Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, and Dr. Walter E. Williams..... brilliant men so far ahead of their time.

    @faamecanic1970@faamecanic19702 жыл бұрын
    • These are the fools who created the neoliberal policies of Reagan, Clinton, and Bush. Thank them for the crisis of 2008.

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.10 ай бұрын
  • Sowell is a national treasure. It's always great watching him and Friedman show the leftist 'intellectuals' how outmatched they were. So thankful my dad introduced me to this honest genius.

    @sundeanastasia6646@sundeanastasia6646 Жыл бұрын
  • Notice how thin everyone was back then too.

    @timothyrday1390@timothyrday13903 жыл бұрын
    • GOOD CATCH !

      @flatearth9140@flatearth91403 жыл бұрын
    • There wasn’t fast food joints on every block and junk food machines in public places. We actually ate nutritious food at home.

      @sassygrammy1258@sassygrammy12583 жыл бұрын
    • @@sassygrammy1258 ITS ONLY BAD PARENTS THAT LET THEIR CHILDREN EAT THAT JUNK !!

      @flatearth9140@flatearth91403 жыл бұрын
    • Corn syrup was not yet our primary sweeter here in the great states until the early 80s

      @ThePyrorocker@ThePyrorocker3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ThePyrorocker Actually it started in the 70’s because for the high cost of sugar.

      @jimmyjackson2361@jimmyjackson23613 жыл бұрын
  • When I heard that fatherless homes in the black community was over 75%, I have to admit I was shocked, the black family unit went from less than 20% to 75% in one and half generations. That is truly astounding. It seems Sowell was proven right by time, I sure hope the world sees this for what it is. Very rarely can we look back this early in time. This can be fixed.

    @davidgearardo1788@davidgearardo17884 жыл бұрын
    • We're not in a political or social environment to fix this, we are in the age of the victim mentality. I think we will look back 20/30 years from now and see this as a time were so much potential was wasted. We are reinforcing single mothers and self destructive behavior whether that being the welfare states policies rewarding not working and being a single mother or modern radical feminism demonizing young men and their non essential role in a household. What we need is men, real men, fathers to be specific and at the moment men are the enemy of society.

      @Dragonaut111@Dragonaut1114 жыл бұрын
    • Dragonaut111 The damn Dems want a permanent underclass! They have no ideas without them!

      @eldermillennial8330@eldermillennial83303 жыл бұрын
    • Elder Millennial and the republicans want a slave class working 2 jobs til they are dead

      @jacobholley6181@jacobholley61813 жыл бұрын
    • Sounds like deuteronomy 28 to me 🤷🏾‍♂️💭

      @coreybrown1040@coreybrown10403 жыл бұрын
    • Jacob Holley The Unions no longer believe that, so Why TF do you???

      @eldermillennial8330@eldermillennial83303 жыл бұрын
  • This is academia. Intellectuals can sit and discuss these broad subjects through critical thinking and debate without losing themselves into their emotions or pushing narrow-minded, backward thinking political agendas....the difference today is that political correctness may "cancel" you for having these debates.

    @Polygroove1@Polygroove13 жыл бұрын
  • I was 9 with this debate took place.. I find myself understanding a lot that takes place today because of what I'm watching concerning these particular debates of yesterday... And I am in no way shape or form privy to the inner workings of politics but from watching and reading anything Thomas sowell has to do with it is very educating and also startling seeing that the concerns of yesterday are a stark reality today....Dr. Sowell is a gem.

    @redbaron1953@redbaron19532 жыл бұрын
  • When the lady from Pennsylvania stated the illegitimacy rate of 12% so nonchalantly I had to clutch my invisible pearls! Brother Sowell was right from the beginning, the rate has skyrocketed in such a short amount of time. It's not to late we can fix this!

    @tishajackson9016@tishajackson90164 жыл бұрын
    • Tisha Jackson the girls get $$ ,etc etc etc ..to have babies..

      @speaktruth9313@speaktruth93133 жыл бұрын
    • @@speaktruth9313 it's nonsensical I mean why would any goverment in earth ever want to DO that? Shouldn't the best and brightest get the most children and the less sucessfull people less so genetics can improve over time? Plus it's unhealthy for woman to have children before 25 biologicaly. I mean. Why would anyone want to encurage this?

      @catsaresocute650@catsaresocute6503 жыл бұрын
    • @@catsaresocute650 Reminder that within two lifetimes post Louis XIV we had the French Revolution. Many a successful monarch is succeed by a far less competent one.

      @artofthepossible7329@artofthepossible73293 жыл бұрын
    • @@artofthepossible7329 I refuse to belive that they would do so on perpuse just to be smarter. That is too naccistic to be comprehensible.

      @catsaresocute650@catsaresocute6503 жыл бұрын
    • @@catsaresocute650 I recall looking up this exact issue (google is a thing people), to put it simply genetics is not as much as a factor as is assumed. From Our Oriental Heritage, published in 1935: “Why is it that great men so often have mediocrities for their offspring? Is it because the gamble of the genes that produced them-the commingling of ancestral traits and biological possibilities was but a chance, and could not be expected to recur? Or is it because the genius exhausts in thought and toil the force that might have gone to parentage, and leaves only his diluted blood to his heirs? Or is it that children decay under ease, and early good fortune deprives them of the stimulus to ambition and growth?”

      @artofthepossible7329@artofthepossible73293 жыл бұрын
  • as a former welfare case worker, i’ve seen so many recipients refuse to look for work because their benefits would decrease if they had income from working.

    @AltCTRLF8@AltCTRLF84 жыл бұрын
    • Russian Bot that’s crazy idk how people can live off those assistances. They tried to do that to my friend that’s in college and welfare told her that she cannot go to college. And I told her that’s crazy man, and the reasons why they told her that because they don’t want her to better herself and stay on that system. It’s good to have help but not certain amount of years to be on that system, because you have certain people like that to be on that for 40 to 45 years and that’s insane and I am glad what Trump is is trying to take those benefits away I tells people that what if they take those benefits away from y’all guys? Then what are going too do

      @Shannete572@Shannete5724 жыл бұрын
    • Wages haven't caught up with inflation. You can break your back working 2-3 jobs and still be relatively poor. I agree welfare keeps people dependent on others to take care of them, treating them like children. But the aforementioned problem needs fixing.

      @gmn545@gmn5454 жыл бұрын
    • Leroy Green and the wages cannot keep up if migration both legal and illegal keep up as well as increase minimum wage which actually prices low skilled workers out of the market. With illegal immigration, they are willing to work for less because it’s better than what they had before and it drives down the cost of labor. As it relates to legal migration, you end up training foreign born individuals to take up jobs whether high level or low level positions, which companies, if they were desperate for workers, would simply increase the offered wages to attract more people to come work. But unfortunately, if you oppose minimum wage, migration and welfare ... you’re a racist, fortunately I’m black so I knew I wouldn’t be called a racist, instead I was called an Uncle Tom 😂🤣

      @TubesForNoobs@TubesForNoobs4 жыл бұрын
    • I almost applied for a position I met a person already - working and glad I did not go through the process- I would been fired...the ignorance - not because ppl don't know - but the entitlement IS Disgusting! All that out weighs the ppl that really need it! - But there is a train coming soon of major change!

      @thephoenix2176@thephoenix21764 жыл бұрын
    • @Leroy Green The problem is that an arbitrary raise in wages will also exacerbate the situation. Now in all honesty, I take the Austrian approach to economics so hopefully I don't need to go into extravagant detail. The overall point is that arbitrary wage hikes do not solve the problem of the purchasing power of one's money when you have a government that increasingly engages in inflationary spending.

      @billmelater6470@billmelater64703 жыл бұрын
  • How do you expect me to sleep until noon if I got a job? What are you people thinking?

    @badgerfishinski6857@badgerfishinski68577 ай бұрын
  • How great is it to see people sit down and debate concerns in a respectable and intelligent way.

    @kbraxton45@kbraxton454 ай бұрын
  • This discussion was very satisfying. Black middle class and working class people for years have been saying what Dr. Sowell and Dr. Friedman have been saying: Welfare is a trap. My parents always said that and insisted that we work hard. I am in my forties and could not be more thankful for my parents instilling that in me and my siblings. You become harder working and responsible when you are spending your money versus someone else’s. Also, you have more self respect when you earn your check. This is an inconvenient truth that needs to be replayed over and over again. I thoroughly enjoyed this and will watch again. Thanks ReelBlack!

    @urbanlark@urbanlark3 жыл бұрын
    • As a native swede, 60 years old, I have seen what the welfaresystem people does with people. It creates bitter, lazy and demanding people. ”Learned helplessness” as we call it

      @hokkitt@hokkitt3 жыл бұрын
    • Sowell , Friedman ...tell it like it is. I wish the Feds would have let them implement their beliefs and programs.

      @dudermcdude9245@dudermcdude92453 жыл бұрын
    • @@dudermcdude9245 me too. I agree with the negative income tax as an incentive to work. Who wants to work and risk losing section 8 housing, food stamps, health insurance, and other cash benefits? The negative income tax actually rewards working.

      @urbanlark@urbanlark3 жыл бұрын
    • Some people don’t seem to like freedom because it puts responsibility on them.

      @doodguytheblank2403@doodguytheblank24033 жыл бұрын
    • Is welfare a trap for middle class whites who get interest tax breaks, RE tax breaks, lower capital gains tax, SSI Payments, Unemplyment insurance. Etc etc All things that put money in their pockets!!

      @annettewilcox5413@annettewilcox5413 Жыл бұрын
  • This is education. Thank you reelblack for this. Peace and love ✊🏾

    @a.okoronkwo311@a.okoronkwo3114 жыл бұрын
    • I loved it.

      @Perfectpearl@Perfectpearl3 жыл бұрын
    • I agree

      @cherylwilliams8237@cherylwilliams82373 жыл бұрын
    • *_John 3.16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”_* _Jesus Christ loves you. Repent and be saved. Only Jesus Christ saves. God bless you, and the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you and your family.._

      @williammunny9916@williammunny99162 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, the part where capitalism fails which created the welfare system to begin with. The rich and the politicians have no idea what they are doing. They literally just ruined the economy because they didn't want to pay higher wages and workers were revolting. Jerome Powell is an idiot.

      @BJ-zv5nl@BJ-zv5nl Жыл бұрын
  • "You mean separate the hope from the reality?". Beautiful.

    @o2bndair@o2bndair2 жыл бұрын
  • I just wish that that Mr. Drysdale's secretary from the Beverly Hillbillies is alive to see that, thanks to her programs, 42 years later, there are households that consist of 3 generations of single mothers that have never worked and great grandma is only in her 50's.

    @samobispo1527@samobispo15273 жыл бұрын
    • This comment made me chuckle. I thought maybe I was the only one thinking that. But your point about her seeing the results is a heavy one.

      @thenationalcenterforhousin924@thenationalcenterforhousin9242 жыл бұрын
    • Yep, thanks for the laugh.

      @johangervais1288@johangervais12882 жыл бұрын
    • I like when she got done saying she wouldn't want to go back to 19th century ways of things because women's rights and the moderator immediately say "anyway" and asks another question

      @chrisriddels5497@chrisriddels54972 ай бұрын
  • I feel like I’ve raised my intelligence and intellectual awareness just by listening and understanding this conversation from some very astute individuals

    @kevingray2437@kevingray24373 жыл бұрын
    • Me too! 👍🏽♥️

      @beekind6267@beekind6267 Жыл бұрын
  • Single motherhood is only 19%. 42 years later and that has more then doubled as welfare has expanded. It was recognized as a problem then and is a pandemic now.

    @xGeneralShrikex@xGeneralShrikex3 жыл бұрын
    • @David Black Yeah, it was too little too late. By then, the ball was rolling so fast, it couldn't be stopped. Single motherhood and absent fathers became too pervasive in the culture and normalized by that point.

      @clarenceeugene9692@clarenceeugene96923 жыл бұрын
    • It's called ssdi, social security disability income.

      @samsondog2182@samsondog21822 жыл бұрын
    • @@samsondog2182 basically means's Get Fat. 🤔

      @sir_prize_ma_the_farcar4547@sir_prize_ma_the_farcar45472 жыл бұрын
  • Love how Milton Friedman proudly smiles while Sowll makes a good agrument

    @YAS-dn6xn@YAS-dn6xn2 жыл бұрын
  • "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help". _Ronald Reagan_

    @shanenoel1270@shanenoel12702 жыл бұрын
  • Dr Thomas Sowell a brilliant man.

    @gotthemgoing@gotthemgoing4 жыл бұрын
  • Who is sees this 2020 still

    @Walnder@Walnder3 жыл бұрын
    • 2021

      @kcmaldonado3948@kcmaldonado39483 жыл бұрын
  • It's AMAZING how everyone spouts' that they are "educated" now a days. However, this video has less than 1M views in four years. A real educational video and "WAP" is what we are focusing our attention on.

    @thej118.........@thej118.........4 ай бұрын
  • Anyone who views this and doesn’t go away loving Thomas Sowell is insane! His confidence is amazing and he owns the room.

    @yortsemloh1156@yortsemloh1156 Жыл бұрын
    • Insane and I’m denial

      @bb3ll07@bb3ll07 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bb3ll07 I’m denial?

      @yortsemloh1156@yortsemloh1156 Жыл бұрын
    • @Yort Semloh she meant "in denial."

      @wilsonjunior3196@wilsonjunior3196 Жыл бұрын
    • @FBA Illegal Immigrant to White Supremacy Despite there being more whites on welfare than blacks the percentage of the population on it is greater among blacks than whites. It’s not difficult for 60 to win out over 13.

      @yortsemloh1156@yortsemloh115611 ай бұрын
  • Sometimes I watch this video to just feel better because it shows that you can express varying opinions in a civil manner. It’s calming.

    @pjc16@pjc163 жыл бұрын
    • It's not calming it's disturbing!

      @rijndertdoting8667@rijndertdoting86672 жыл бұрын
    • Incivility is a tool for those who have an agenda that benefits from incivility.

      @johnsharpe6411@johnsharpe64112 жыл бұрын
    • Don't you know? Living in the age of information means everyone is an expert in their respective field.. People could admit they were wrong and were at least marginally teachable. Confirmation bias is why all this available knowledge doesn't evolve into wisdom. In my humble opinion, because of this we're regressing as a species. I hope I'm wrong. :(

      @duediligence7612@duediligence7612 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@rijndertdoting8667 You're disturbing.

      @Cbd_7ohm@Cbd_7ohm Жыл бұрын
    • No you don't

      @uzefulvideos3440@uzefulvideos344010 ай бұрын
  • It’s 2020 and the proof is in : Friedman and Sowell are right . As a career social worker ( since 1985) , I completely agree with Friedman and Sowell

    @nancybaumgartner6774@nancybaumgartner67743 жыл бұрын
    • Then why did you do that job for so long.

      @rickydee5863@rickydee58633 жыл бұрын
    • You're a smart women.

      @bigsleep32@bigsleep323 жыл бұрын
    • @@rickydee5863 it’s a good job - a great one . I am independent now and have been foe quite a few years . Went the clinical route . Private practice .

      @nancybaumgartner6774@nancybaumgartner67743 жыл бұрын
    • @@rickydee5863 people need to put food on the table

      @DaniG.German883@DaniG.German883 Жыл бұрын
    • @@nancybaumgartner6774 thanks for your reply .

      @rickydee5863@rickydee5863 Жыл бұрын
  • This was an intelligent exchange of ideas free of name calling and nastiness. Why can’t we have that today 😢

    @benitajones9115@benitajones91158 ай бұрын
    • One side-- the loud side-- has nothing to offer but unearned moral superiority and personal attack, that's why.

      @warnerchandler9826@warnerchandler98268 ай бұрын
    • We aren't allowed adults anymore.

      @newtpondskipper@newtpondskipper7 ай бұрын
    • Jordan Peterson has some pretty respectful conversations with some pretty intelligent folks on his own channel and often disagrees, or even more refreshingly, admits he was wrong or didn't know things quite often. I wouldn't be surprised if he ever talked with Sowell but I don't recall ever seeing it anywhere now that I think of it. Although I see people, outside of his own show, who gets nasty with him and resort to the ignorant tactics we all despise.

      @podunkest@podunkest7 ай бұрын
  • This is one of the best KZhead channels around. The comments are as interesting and dynamic as the content you post. Thank you Reelblack!

    @georgiapeach310@georgiapeach3104 жыл бұрын
    • Something beautiful u are! JS

      @johnsonjrharold@johnsonjrharold4 жыл бұрын
    • The best indeed

      @a.okoronkwo311@a.okoronkwo3114 жыл бұрын
    • It’s amazing, I love the discussions displayed in the video and how people can disagree irregardless of race and not have name callings being thrown around. I discovered Thomas Sowell today and ended up learning of Milton right after. I’m not from the US so I’m not sure if that’s why I’ve never heard of these people or perhaps because I was never born in this era and have no background in economics 🤣. But I absolutely love this and so glad to see people are willing to discuss these topics of systems that plague us to ‘this day !

      @TubesForNoobs@TubesForNoobs4 жыл бұрын
    • @@TubesForNoobs Good point! We often speak of evolution but devolution is often what we witness. The death of civility is something to which we should never get accustomed.

      @georgiapeach310@georgiapeach3104 жыл бұрын
    • I see some disagreements in the comments, but i havent seen any disrespect. Too bad it cant happen everywhere else.

      @ExtremelyRightWing@ExtremelyRightWing3 жыл бұрын
  • I can't stop seeing how well behaved everyone is. NO freaks, weirdos or bums walking around.

    @timothyandrewnielsen@timothyandrewnielsen3 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, Trump could not sit with these intellects.

      @warren9402@warren94023 жыл бұрын
    • @@warren9402 And people weren't bitching about Trump every 5 seconds. 😒 He's not even in office anymore. Get a life.

      @lemonheart.3087@lemonheart.30873 жыл бұрын
    • Today a mob would be shouting over the panel and blowing an air horn in Friedman's ear.

      @Beekeeper8011@Beekeeper80113 жыл бұрын
    • @@Beekeeper8011 funny but so true

      @petermartin7811@petermartin78113 жыл бұрын
    • Less vaccines then

      @allergictostupidpeople7893@allergictostupidpeople78933 жыл бұрын
  • This should be rebroadcast today on every channel.

    @bostoncop71@bostoncop713 ай бұрын
  • I could listen to Thomas Sowell forever

    @NatureNick108@NatureNick1082 жыл бұрын
  • In 1978 my daughter was born. My partner of seven years left. I survived on some family help. I worked at a restaurant and ate my employee meal and ate cream of wheat for dinner, for 6 months. I accept help to get day care, nothing else. Fast forward my daughter is a graduate with a masters in Psychology, and very successful. She had every thing she needed and she worked hard.

    @cynthiabeckenbaugh5189@cynthiabeckenbaugh51893 жыл бұрын
    • Hallelujah!!!!!!!!

      @williewilliams5429@williewilliams54293 жыл бұрын
    • Congrats, your a wonderful example for your daughter!

      @kimmylive2127@kimmylive21273 жыл бұрын
    • @@kimmylive2127 thank you

      @cynthiabeckenbaugh5189@cynthiabeckenbaugh51893 жыл бұрын
    • Think about how much better off she would have been if you didn't accept the daycare or skive off your family and employers

      @gamerknown@gamerknown3 жыл бұрын
    • 20:56 ...Very cool shot that.

      @JesseP.Watson@JesseP.Watson2 жыл бұрын
  • You won't hear this on The Breakfast Club lol

    @Daniel-pk2uo@Daniel-pk2uo4 жыл бұрын
    • Nope. Smh

      @elizagold2186@elizagold21864 жыл бұрын
    • Daniel Willis yes you sure don’t because those people on the breakfast club speaks their mind

      @Shannete572@Shannete5724 жыл бұрын
    • @Kenya Askew you wont hear it on there because they're ignorant and they live in a racial world not a rational one .

      @unosheem6210@unosheem62104 жыл бұрын
    • UNO Sheem exactly

      @Shannete572@Shannete5724 жыл бұрын
    • Kenya Askew or their lack of brains

      @ctbadcop15@ctbadcop154 жыл бұрын
  • Every minority parent should show this video to their kids. They should show this video on schools.

    @michaelpuente3352@michaelpuente33529 ай бұрын
  • I've never heard such a civilized, intelligent and nimble discussion on a topic like this. Everyone is so quick to respond, well-spoken and well-informed. What has happened in the past fifty years???

    @d.s.8227@d.s.82275 ай бұрын
    • Dumbing down of American entertainment and education happened.

      @KratostheThird@KratostheThird4 ай бұрын
  • I'm so glad I was a "weird black kid" I watched Free to Choose McNeil Lara report Frontline and as many programs channel 13 in NY could offer. Thank you for posting it brought me back. This generation needs to get back to this. Research think and question folks.

    @1320Bushido@1320Bushido4 жыл бұрын
    • Weird black kids end up being some of the coolest adults you’ll ever meet.

      @themeadowlarkminutewithpau8184@themeadowlarkminutewithpau81844 жыл бұрын
    • @@nonyabidness5454 like it is sometimes ran into Robotech and the hour of power/Dr Price yeah I was eclectic.... still am.

      @1320Bushido@1320Bushido4 жыл бұрын
    • @Nonya Bidness u took me back with the toni brown nod. oooo lawdi.

      @sonquatsch8585@sonquatsch85854 жыл бұрын
    • Unfortunately I don't think civil debate exists any longer. Now a debate will devolve into name calling and unsubstantiated claims. I may hold an opinion and you the reverse but holding opposing views does not mean that anyone's opinions are wrong or evil. Listen to the other side. You may not change your opinion or you may but at least see and think about the other side

      @modernscholar02@modernscholar024 жыл бұрын
    • You are by no means weird.

      @v12vanquish@v12vanquish4 жыл бұрын
  • Welfare is only exposing the real problem and that’s people.

    @thenarrowpath4363@thenarrowpath43633 жыл бұрын
  • Pleasantly surprised that this channel is giving Sowell well deserved praise

    @charcoalcowboy@charcoalcowboy2 жыл бұрын
  • Tom Sowell is deserving of a nobel prize like his mentour Fredman P. Moon

    @princemoon2943@princemoon29439 ай бұрын
  • Very refreshing. Imagine a world where people don't take the worst possible interpretation of what someone says. When people can talk have disagreements and debate without being demonized called names put into categories and identity politics. Or people can debate based on the merits of their ideas, and not their privilege or gender or race. This is what we need now.

    @dconstruct9013@dconstruct90133 жыл бұрын
    • And how!

      @2bobaf@2bobaf3 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell and Milton Freedman have been proven right.

    @soulbi23@soulbi234 жыл бұрын
    • They were right and wrong . So if we don't get more concerned about getting policy correct then we have more problems

      @supermike2164@supermike21644 жыл бұрын
    • @@vladimirremmirez7671 I genuinely can't understand whatever it is your're trying to convey?

      @Ratty2480@Ratty24804 жыл бұрын
    • @@Ratty2480 He doesn't really make great arguments they have no substance at all whatsoever. he literally uses anecdotal evidence as proof to support his argument lmfao, he's good in terms of the second wave feminism debates but he should stay out of economic politics

      @vladimirremmirez7671@vladimirremmirez76714 жыл бұрын
    • @@vladimirremmirez7671 What arguments aren't substantive? And you do realize that your commenting on a video set along time ago and applying critique of it in today's terms

      @Ratty2480@Ratty24804 жыл бұрын
    • @@vladimirremmirez7671 ...if you believe subject that comes from Sowell it better be economics. He's an award winning economist and a student of Friedman, who is THE economist.

      @hayteren@hayteren4 жыл бұрын
  • I have probably watched this 10 times in the 4 years since you uploaded this. Good ideas exist outside of time.

    @bigbizzhc@bigbizzhc6 ай бұрын
  • It's nice seeing 1970s Chicago, thanks for uploading this!

    @SecondTake123@SecondTake1233 жыл бұрын
  • The thing I like the most about this video is the respectful debate, no one interrupts, all listen, all get a chance to speak... this doesn’t happen anymore

    @OldSchool-om2zo@OldSchool-om2zo3 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah same here..not sure where we get these types of discussions today....Maybe a lot has chnaged since this time but some good thinkers on this panel, regardless how everyone sees it....

      @KewlkatNDahat@KewlkatNDahat2 жыл бұрын
    • Jerry Springer Nation.

      @andrewmclaughlin2701@andrewmclaughlin27017 ай бұрын
  • No way PBS would allow this type of documentary now days.

    @patrickmccarron5059@patrickmccarron50593 жыл бұрын
    • Indeed PBS, even NPR, Public Classical and Jazz radio have comfortably morphed from Public to Publicity (Fed and Local Gov) outlets, making sure we stay Sleepy Hollow and well programmed..

      @wescolumbus621@wescolumbus6213 жыл бұрын
  • I love Thomas Sowell, I remember these talks on t.v. whenI was little. I had no idea what they were talking about , but I was learning how to speak English with my mama. Lol! I only understood certain words and took sides . I was always on the side of truth , because the only one using less complicated words and straight to the point was Mr.Sowell.

    @daniaa.oliva-pena7338@daniaa.oliva-pena733811 ай бұрын
  • This is fantastic and eye opening. Wish there was more of this today.

    @onionbreath5879@onionbreath58793 ай бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell had it all figured out decades ago and here we are fighting over the same issues with the same institutions in place. The welfare state in the single biggest hurdle placed in front of society. Which affects minorities even more. The destruction of the family is another major factor. Too many fathers are not in their childrens life and its the welfare state that encourages this. An able bodied male in the home is no good for the welfare state. You need to be a single mother with kids. A critical aspect of development of a child is a mother and a father in the home. It's above all else. It's so rewarding. Why wouldn't you not want to be in your flesh and bloods life?

    @-KillaWatt-@-KillaWatt-4 жыл бұрын
    • It may help women not need the man sure. I wouldn't say that's what led to the destruction of the black household. What destroyed the black family is lack of well paying easy to get jobs like plentiful factory jobs. Now you need plenty of education, and unfortunately males struggle the most in our education system. Not even just black males. Yeah men get the most rewarding jobs and take the hardest majors making it seem like the opposite is true, but women dominate the knowledge field. Every corporate job I've had the same pattern has been true. Men are dominating the high paying positions, but for every support role in the office that are decent paying jobs I've seen majority women. And I mean every single corporate job I've had at medium, small, and large companies.

      @tommy07robs@tommy07robs4 жыл бұрын
    • Killa Watt Thomas Sowell is a clown who supported racist Reagan(dare you to deny Reagan was a racist piece of shit) MLK had it all figured out

      @morenitomoreno1282@morenitomoreno12824 жыл бұрын
    • Chris Russell you’re a liar.

      @ianthompson3038@ianthompson30384 жыл бұрын
    • Gregory Eaton the reason why you need this level of education today and all these added requirements is because of minimum wage laws, it priced people out of the market who had no skill to even get a job. A man is better off making $5 an hour having had no education than a man who spent thousands to only end up making $10. Eventually a man with no education can build himself up with experience and I guarantee you, experience is so much more valuable than a degree these days.

      @TubesForNoobs@TubesForNoobs4 жыл бұрын
    • It's all part of a grand agenda to usurp the human spirit. Hard work feels good. Hard work for yourself feels even better. Achieving something only makes you want to achieve something bigger. We eat adversity for breakfast and our proudest moment will be our children watching us dine at hells table then jog off the meal. We want to be able, not enabled. We don't want contentment, we want competence. Slavery? The fuck does that matter when you've got your own home, wife, kids and a livelihood you love to live for?

      @kwameoluwasomi1518@kwameoluwasomi15183 жыл бұрын
  • EVERYTHING mentioned in this documentary is fact.

    @Perfectpearl@Perfectpearl3 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent video! Thank you for sharing it.

    @Silo485@Silo485 Жыл бұрын
  • What an amazing debate! Wish we had debates like this today

    @domxavierdepaula5302@domxavierdepaula53023 ай бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell totally demolishes people's argument either by his words or his body language!!! 😁

    @Sidtube10@Sidtube103 жыл бұрын
    • I wish he would have had the backing to implement everything he talks about. Him and Friedman always believed in people.

      @dudermcdude9245@dudermcdude92453 жыл бұрын
    • usually an equal measure of both.

      @bailechuind6194@bailechuind61943 жыл бұрын
    • @@bailechuind6194 Yeah particularly when he was young - and he sure did maintain his youth for a real long time!

      @Sidtube10@Sidtube103 жыл бұрын
    • @@Sidtube10 he is still writing he finished one book at 87 and at 91 he is working on another.

      @bailechuind6194@bailechuind61943 жыл бұрын
    • Period

      @kimmylive2127@kimmylive21273 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell should be in Mount Rushmore!!!!

    @athruzathruz@athruzathruz4 жыл бұрын
    • athruzathruz exactly idk what these assholes heard

      @PastorPreach@PastorPreach4 жыл бұрын
    • athruzathruz 😂 funniest comment ever

      @misternurse2u503@misternurse2u5034 жыл бұрын
    • @@misternurse2u503 I'm serious, Sowell is the man! He's been proven right throughout the years.....

      @athruzathruz@athruzathruz4 жыл бұрын
    • I would donate to that cause!

      @kiwisquaw23@kiwisquaw234 жыл бұрын
    • @@kiwisquaw23 I'll put you down bro!!!!

      @athruzathruz@athruzathruz4 жыл бұрын
  • Love the quote " When you have a society that chooses equality before liberty then they end up with neither but when you have a society that chooses liberty before equality they end up better with both". So very true. Government is never the solution and only end up being the problem and creating a system that is necessary more then not needed due to the incentive to not get better educated and accepting a lower work ethic that's the same as not working at all for a salary as if you've worked a higher educated or skilled job. Life choices have consequences whether good, bad or indifferent. You can be the best honorable person but make decisions that keep you impoverished. Your choices can and mostly do have an impact of the final result. Unless your in a situation beyond your control, handicapped, disabled or mentally unstable you should always make yourself economically viable or your chances of success and ability to stay way above the poverty line will be vastly diminished. If you consistently have children while being impoverished, doing drugs and living a undesirable lifestyle that effects your chances of becoming a morally intact individual, or just having self chosen ignorance and obtuseness. Although you may see success and how it's achieved you reject the effort or the applied knowledge it takes to get there. So YES if someone else is going to pay you to practically do nothing and intice you to stay that way while living the aforementioned lifestyle, there is no wonder why the system is broken and fundamentally flawed by its design in the first place as explained eloquently by Milton Friedman 1912-2006 RIP✌🏽❤️

    @mojorisin7317@mojorisin7317Ай бұрын
  • It’s very refreshing to see a respectful debate among people that disagree, if only people could do that today…

    @christrites4251@christrites42512 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell what an American and world treasure. I’ve read many of his books. Much love to him and let’s treasure his wisdom. 💯💯🙏🏾🙏🏾

    @j.hmarvelous2231@j.hmarvelous22313 жыл бұрын
    • ❤him

      @allergictostupidpeople7893@allergictostupidpeople78933 жыл бұрын
    • @@allergictostupidpeople7893 Sowell is just a capitalist mouthpiece working for the bosses and telling their side of the story.

      @kimobrien.@kimobrien.10 ай бұрын
  • Both parts of this discussion is so true and still pervasive in society. I'm a product of the welfare system. My family would have been homeless without the government. Welfare was used for survival and not taken for granted. As a child I recognized the ill affects the government had on the black family. This film is 100% correct I agree with everything.....today I'm doing quite well without the government.

    @davidward8626@davidward86264 жыл бұрын
    • Sowell points it out many times in other videos that the black community following WW2 seen an economic and social boom. The majority of households had both a mother and father. In some points in history blacks were wedlock more than any other demographic in the country. That's how strong the family bond used to be. You can just look at videos here on KZhead of the black community during the 40s and 50s and the culture was clearly different. Music played a major role in that. There was a time when households across the nation all had family members who played an instrument. The jazz clubs, cinema and a multitude of other institutions that were once cherished mysteriously disappeared. One could argue it was the rebellion of the 70s that brought about its destruction. It was around this time government built ghettos where starting to pop up around the country. Hindsight, it's obvious segregation of the time. Society may have moved on since Jim Crow but the ghetto is a stark reminder it still lingers over society.

      @-KillaWatt-@-KillaWatt-4 жыл бұрын
    • Ure parents would not have starved without the government. U believe ure parents are incompetent or dumb?

      @QueenofBluntTruth@QueenofBluntTruth4 жыл бұрын
    • @@QueenofBluntTruth U R Dum cAusE yoU No SPELL goOOD!!!

      @gcarlson@gcarlson4 жыл бұрын
    • How do you know Mr. Ward's family "would not have starved without the government"? That's terribly wrong and myopic. You'd do well to diversity your life experience and take some spelling and grammar classes while your passing judgement on, and imparting your vast wisdom to, others.

      @jenniferwilcox9759@jenniferwilcox97594 жыл бұрын
    • @@jenniferwilcox9759 my comment was to make a point. I certainly don't need more schooling at this stage in my life.

      @davidward8626@davidward86264 жыл бұрын
  • All of those on the Is panel were fantastic this was great stuff that we all need to think about very seriously.

    @endlessfeast@endlessfeast3 жыл бұрын
  • One of if not my favorite humans ever, Thomas Sowell

    @knicknack2472@knicknack24729 ай бұрын
  • Denzel Washington could play Dr. Sowell in a biopic.

    @HighPowrdBeavr@HighPowrdBeavr4 жыл бұрын
    • same thoughts.

      @IsmokeHiphopLive@IsmokeHiphopLive3 жыл бұрын
    • That would be amazing

      @hunitdaysofsummer@hunitdaysofsummer3 жыл бұрын
    • I wish. I wish. I wish. Rebel actually thinks like him too.

      @afreedman4361@afreedman43613 жыл бұрын
    • *Denzel not rebel. Self correct sucks.

      @afreedman4361@afreedman43613 жыл бұрын
    • You know, he’s such a fine actor he’d do just as well in the role of Milton Friedman.

      @danielstieglitz9617@danielstieglitz96173 жыл бұрын
  • I hope Mr and Mrs. Brown were able to move ahead in life while sticking together.

    @ladyruler9585@ladyruler95853 жыл бұрын
  • My father was born into the great depression. He learned the lessons well taught by the almost unimaginable poverty. In the 60's, when I was quite young, he was teaching us about the pitfalls of allowing govt to have any control over our future. So many of his beliefs were considered conspiracy theories, now, they are simply history lessons. But, those lessons aren't taught in school and are buried by media.

    @cwavt8849@cwavt884927 күн бұрын
  • Thank you for introducing me to Friedman and Sowell. People impacted by systems of structural racism are the ones who have the solutions. People are capable and able to make decisions that are positive and beneficial to their families and communities . We All Rise!

    @sandrakillett9242@sandrakillett92426 ай бұрын
  • I vaguely remember my dad telling me all of this when I was growing up. The State of New York was paying 600$ a month per child out of wedlock and there were women who would go out and get four of them so they wouldn’t need a job. It didn’t matter that the four kids grew up in squalor.

    @PopeSixtusVI@PopeSixtusVI3 жыл бұрын
    • They still do it done whites too once you know what you can get you use it- food stamps go up per child then sell some get cash buy DOPE I know a chick- my coworker we made 12 $ hr she got food stamps I said how you get that she said cuz I got 3 kids and a husband who won't work- leads to look all the black women who work leave baby st home with boyfriend who ends up killing that baby sad

      @allergictostupidpeople7893@allergictostupidpeople78933 жыл бұрын
  • lmao arguably the most consequential economist of the 20th century was casually strolling through the hood

    @christophert8419@christophert84193 жыл бұрын
    • 💀💀💀

      @SpoonfulOfMenticide@SpoonfulOfMenticide3 жыл бұрын
    • All the hoods. Like he just came back for a cookout and to help the homies knock down a defunct building.

      @valdeswright8069@valdeswright80693 жыл бұрын
    • That is my exact point about the negative effects of abortion. Hundreds of thousands of minds murdered when it only takes one mind to change the world. Where are Planned Parenthoods most prevalent? Yep, where great minds exist and are being eradicated.

      @bobryant9923@bobryant99232 жыл бұрын
    • He may have been one of the most profound but Marx was surely the most consequential unless you don’t think over 100M people dying of starvation was much of a consequence?

      @roughhabit6496@roughhabit649611 ай бұрын
  • Over 40 years later...sorry Milton we are still heading down the wrong paths and the signs have been screaming at us but for some reason we press the gas.

    @shite9678@shite96783 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell is an American treasure.

    @BertFurfull@BertFurfull6 ай бұрын
  • The Beauty And Power Of Dialogue. Imagine How Easy Life Could Be If We Could Be Open To Having Healthy Dialogue.

    @djfundraiser9710@djfundraiser97103 жыл бұрын
  • I was shocked by income tax after I got my first higher income job. In months I was laid off and immediately went homeless. Taxes made me homeless. I refused unemployment insurance and any sort of welfare. I didn't want help from government. I found little jobs. I scraped together money to start a business. 4 years later I'm doing very well. If the government would get out of our business, prices would come down and the escape from poverty would be substantially easier. It's only hard because the government makes it hard. Never get on welfare or accept any government help.

    @mahfeww@mahfeww3 жыл бұрын
    • I’m glad you were able to get back up without government assistance!

      @Awesome-oh7op@Awesome-oh7op3 жыл бұрын
    • You refused unemployment insurance? Its like having a car accident and being proud to have refused your coverage! What nonsense. The whole point is to plan for temporary misfortune. Its not meant for life long help. Its good that you built things back up but every program isnt some scam.

      @thezu9250@thezu92503 жыл бұрын
    • @@thezu9250 there is a difference. I voluntarily choose to buy car insurance for myself. In my state only liability is needed for owned vehicles with no lines on a title. I have the choice to cover more than liability damages. Unemployment insurance is different in that it is forced at gunpoint to be bought. No options are available and so your employor is forced to buy. Your policy is never disclosed to you. This leaves the public ignorant. By claiming unemployment, I am pulling from a fund created by people whose labor was exploited by force. Essentially I'd be taking proceeds from a portion of someone else's labor without consent. By definition that's slavery. If I wanted unemployment insurance I should be allowed the choice to buy it for myself or not. It's a risk I should decide for myself in choosing if I should set aside some money for it. No person should be forced to buy it. Any time people are forced into anything, they feel entitled and incentivized to cheat the system and maximize returns beyond contractual agreements made by their own hand. This is the basis for corruption and government program failure. If people had the option to not have unemployment insurance, if someone did not want it, they could earn more $. Same principle applies to social security and Medicare. Many people would love to opt out, make substantially more money, and spend it how they decide to. Instead it's all stolen.

      @mahfeww@mahfeww3 жыл бұрын
    • @@mahfeww No. That makes zero sense. Its an insurance policy. Everyone pitches in because a small percentage will actually need it. Its supposed to be a safety net. Thats how your car, health and home insurance works. You pay hoping you dont need it. But its still a crowd funded insurance plan. The average person gets way less out of those insurances than they pay. The reality is that employment insurance makes working people SAVE a portion of their pay in case of emergencies so they dont end up needing welfare. I see it as MY money coming back to me as I obviously dont plan to need it for long. So if I pay 10 years of it, and use it for 3 months. Then fine. But it also means that I am fortunate but my neighbor will have help. Them going into a state of despair means ill have to help them or be negatively impacted by them anyway. There will ALWAYS be opportunists. The AVERAGE person isnt gaming the system. The AVERAGE person isnt praying to lose their job which usually pays more than the bare minimum covered by unemployment insurance. So not sure how unemployment versus having a good job is a luxury.

      @thezu9250@thezu92503 жыл бұрын
    • @@thezu9250 there's a difference between force and voluntary choices. I do not subscribe to force. The logic isn't there. Force makes the assumption that all have the right to deserve an entitlement. Voluntary action is where all have the right to know and understand what they are getting into. I personally would choose to opt out of unemployment because I wish to accept the risk of not being paid if I am laid off. We all deserve the human right to choose owe do with our own bodies.

      @mahfeww@mahfeww3 жыл бұрын
  • Thoams Sowell, the legend. It is a shame that more people are not open to his amazing intelligence.

    @Suzanne291@Suzanne2913 ай бұрын
  • The little girl that couldn’t breath, I hope she was able to get well

    @eastudio-K@eastudio-K3 жыл бұрын
    • @Tim fuck off

      @justice1674@justice16743 жыл бұрын
    • @Tim I've heard of dark humor, but HOLY SHIT

      @liam3044@liam30443 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas Sowell completely dominate this debate with his charisma

    @whocares995@whocares9953 жыл бұрын
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