Supercharged Jeep Rubicon Unlimited testing snow chains.
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I didn't put the rear set on because I realized that I didn't have clearance for them between my rock rail and tire. I'll trim it down and try again. Just having them on the front made a significant difference.
All four chains on crazy terrain here: • Supercharged Jeep Rubi...
This isn't snow that has just fallen like you're use to. It's snow that has been on the ground all winter freezing and thawing. You could cut blocks of it out, you can walk on top of it. The Jeep almost drove on top of it. It's like clawing through a solid block of ice.
These are one of those videos that would've probably been best to keep to yourself lol.
why they dont stay at home they look like somekindoftards
I read an article in Peterson's Offroad about snowwheeling. It said it's more effective to put your chains on the back because the snow that the front tires see is not packed and you still get good traction, but the snow the rear tires see is packed and that is where the chains will benefit you most. They also say that you should back up in your tracks and get some momentum and just keep doing it over and over. You are esssentially turning your axles and differentials into snow plows.
We always carried Chains for the front and the back. Go out, have fun, get stuck. Chain up the front, get unstuck, keep having fun. Get stuck, Chain up the back, get unstuck, time to go home.
Totally agree. You don't want to get stuck with all 4 chained up or you're in deep do-do.
Need chains in the back! ...Nice Jeep
That's what I say.
No he doesn’t. Chains on all four tires or just two tires have the same effect which is none. The point of this video as well as the most recent video by primal outdoors channel is that chains are useless in certain situations. Heavy wet mushy deep snow can not be conquered with chains. They literally have a negative effect in two ways. First they simply dig your rig into holes that you cannot overcome. Second they give you a false sense of confidence that gets you stuck in the back country
@@prepperjonpnw6482 Four tires in chains the same as two tires, no f,,king way dude.
@@prepperjonpnw6482 must not have spent a lot of time in snow. The chains are meant to dig in that's the point. They grab and rip at the ground giving you traction.
Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed that. Looks like you had the lockers engaged. I've got a non-rubi LJ and sure do wish I had some lockers of my own!
Sweet vid, I have an old 1990 wrangler that i have been messin around with and just posted a few vids on my channel of it in the snow. gatta love jeeps
I have the Duratracs and love them also find the interco TSL LTB super swampers to be great in this type of snow cause they can carve it away very nicely. thanks for the input!
I'm impressed! And i LOVE your jeep! those flatties were a good choice!
Awesome. I Just picked up a Jeep JK and I love it. Great video
I had a Wrangler many years ago here in Chicago and since I live just a few houses from the Chicago River, snow would drift in our alley to a few feet deep. I never used snow tires or chains and would drive out my garage and down the alley without a problem in snow much deeper than this.
Awesome looking truck!
That's a pretty badass Jeep, dude. I want to build something like this for myself now!
Perfect video rolling in snow
Thanks, I had a pretty long discussion with the guy who runs tirechains dot comm and he suggested these. It's a Boron alloy square chain. It has a deeper "bucket" to move more material and holds up better for rock crawling etc. when the snow is intermittent.
This video is a good illustration of how any vehicle, no matter how good it is, can still get stuck in snow. I found that out the hard way when I drove into a culvert covered in deep snow in my 1996 ZJ a few years ago in upstate New York. I was stuck in seconds and had to get winched out by a tow truck.
nice Jeep and that snow looks great as well...I can't wait to move out there one day
I'm so glad I found this video. I own land in the UP of Michigan & there was 24" of snow down before deer season. I have a 4WD F150 & got stuck about halfway down my easement. I brought boards & shovels with me so I just hiked back to camp & dug myself out when we were ready to leave. Do you think the chains would work well on a snow covered dirt 2 track? The land isn't flat, but the inclines aren't very significant.
it sounds like a beast
The video quality is really good for a video uploaded in 2011.
a badass looking rubi
I like to wheel my jeep in deep snow. I typically don't use chains, I use an aggressive mud type tire and low air pressure. I start at 10 psi and sometimes go as low as 3 psi. I use extra low gear and idle to get on top of the snow. If I break through, I back up and go again trying not to spin. This procedure works very well and is the same method I use on my atv with tracks. Too much throttle will usually get you stuck!
3psi? Bead locks on 35-37s I assume? That's crazy low.
My 1981 Datsun 4x4 truck just walked right up on top of the deepest snow and floated along. Of course, it had military -style 4 wheel independent suspension which placed the diffs way up above the snow.These things with the low diffs and old style springs just can't climb high enough to get on top and away. 16 u-joints made for higher first cost, but winter performance was unmatched.
I looked up datsun 4wd truck on google and all I came up with were independent in the front and solid axle in the rear. Which model do you have?
You are quite correct.I had tried out several different rigs over the years and the one coming to mind without the regular differential belonged to a man who lived near and i borrowed it a few times.That must have been what i was thinking about, as he had taken an old Willys jeep and put in a half-shaft indpendent rear end from what i know not and a Volvo motor. Strange how, being heavier, it could not climb up on the snow like my truck. It sure could walk over stumps and all though! Anyway, thanks for correcting my thoughts...that was a long time back and it must have been also the extra wide tires along with the independent military type suspension at front that made the snow crawling go so well for my datsun..I will never forget the 16 U-Joints needing replacement. Did that over two weekends.
You did a good job on building that Jeep. A Flatlander is someone that is not all that experienced with the dangers and hazards of mountain driving in the Sierra snow up in the higher elevations here in California. Hence a Flatlander Jeep is a 4X4 that will eventually need a tow out of the snow, something that you will not be needing if you chain up all 4 tires there. I like what you did to your Jeep, looks cool, seems to have good power and potential to be a "snow crawler" there.
i always put them on the rear of my XJ. the front end doesnt plow as bad and breaks the trail without bogging down.
Beautiful Jeep man.
nice jeep, supercharger sounds sick
From every off-road video I've watched I'm getting the impression snow driving is the toughest. I stumbled upon your video researching; snow tires deep snow, trying to find the best option. I thought for sure your rig was going to handle anything winter related! Maybe tire pressure downing would help? I'm buying a 4x4 myself before winter as I deliver newspapers in snow storms now lol yay so excited lol thanks for posting the test. But as you said that is not fresh snow, I'm sure you blast threw fresh snow.
Gallant Bullies It is, and it tends to break things, esp with chains because of the loads you have on the drivetrain. If you chain up and have U-Joints, easy on the throttle while the wheel is turned since the U-Joint is weakest at that point. Also, if you have chains, air pressure becomes less of a concern, higher pressure will give you more ground clearance and the chains will give better traction than any bare tire at any pressure. Ground clearance becomes more valuable at that point, since you need to have the tire on the ground to gain friction. Once you're high centered, none of it matters.
Awesome feedback, thank you!
i was up in st marys/alice the other day and you are right about the snow being alot harder than normal fresh snow. my friends FJ could barely make it through a foot of it lol
Speed and chains on all 4 tires make a world of difference. My little Chevy Love would go through 4+ feet of snow no problem same with even my Duramax
Chains can do incredible things for traction.
Nice Jeep and good driving. Apparently not many have driven on ice-age snow and/or with chains. When you start spinning your tires fast with chains on, the chains pull away from the tires and can rip into your fenders and anything else they touch - very bad idea. The only suggestion I like here, if you didn't do it, is to air down to 12-15 psi. A little momentum would also help, but NOT hammering the pedal and spinning those chains fast That's my advice, and worth every penny ;)
Ok thanks, very nice jeep by the way
My wife had a 2-door Rubicon. It was great too. They both shine in their own ways. We got rid of her Jeep and got her a GTI.
Supercharged that's awesome. I wish I had one of those.
@fitchhollister Thanks, but I guess what I mean is the rear door with the spare tire on it. Is it true that it can't be locked?
Nice lookin' Jeep.
@bullmoosecalhoun Are chains really necessary when you not only have a 4x4 but also when you have big all terrain tires that are snow rated? Example, BFG AT KO's?
@Clipzin33 I have all four wheels slipping on a regular basis and there is no jerking. I understand your theory but there isn't enough resistance to cause that on dirt or rocks. The chains clawing away at the snow does it.
Looks like fun to me!
@fitchhollister there is a breather hole in the tran and the factory never made breather tube for it that would bring above the trans to keep mud, water and sand out of the trans
OK, now I understand why there is a winch in front of most Jeeps…...
So we can pull you and your buddies out :)
haha
Jeeps are very light compared to a full size truck especially a full size truck with a big heavy diesel engine in the front
Yeah, Jeeps are cool put they are simply too light. A buick Enclave would have torn through that with no chains. lol
@@southshoreadventures not with these drivers...my jeep no chains, LSD, no locker.... we went through worse than that.
i want that jeep, very nice nice build, what have you all moded on it so far?
Are the tires deflated at all? I thought going from 35 to 20 would make a difference but the magic happens around 10psi. And one winter when I was with the Search and Rescue Team in the Cascade Mountains playing/exploring the jeep trails in the snow the S&R guys had me go to 7psi. That was a fun day.
@triplejayvideos Thanks, they are Rugged Ridge
nice snow chains loud jeep
@nunayafb Don't forget that the snow up in the Colorado Mountains has frozen and melted over and over so it's not the fluffy drive up to your bumper kind of snow. It's very dense.
@MrAxKx It's great. Good performance and still 17 MPG's.
how do the km2s handle in the snow? where i live we get very similar snow to whats in the video only its a lot colder and icier
@tbrehm1985 In the automotive field, a transaxle is a major mechanical component that combines the functionality of the transmission, the differential, and associated components of the driven axle into one integrated assembly.
Skid plates, larger tires, winch, metal front and rear bumpers, heavier duty axles. I weighed it with doors and soft-top and no doors no top, and doors and hard-top. The numbers were pretty interesting. With doors and hard-top it's over the GVWR.
@stormer1092 centrifugal not a roots blower. Lots of them have front mounts. Paxton, vortech, powerdyne, procharger to name a few.
@fitchhollister yeah i was too lazy to respell it i didn't mean it like that its just kind of a thing that goes around. and by the way nice rig did it come with lockers?
@macguy34 You can supercharger an automatic. The price of the parts is 4-5K depending if you get the intercooler or not. I don't know how much labor is because I did it myself. It is a RIPP supercharger. Google them for more info.
Es necesario utilizar las cadenas en las cuatro ruedas, para una mejor traccion y la velocidad debe ser moderada, para que las ruedas no patines y tengan la traccion.
what year jeep is this? are those the stock rubicon lockers? cause they work amazing.. Im sure if you would have been able to put the back chains on the driver would have had no problem
Sick wrangler man, I wanted to get chains because the winters get pretty bad where I live. But I have a wj with quadra-trac II, so it said it messes up the timing or somthing on the variable coupler, idk if it's true or not. ( not that it makes a difference to you) lol cool jeep tho, what state are you located I'n?
nice vid, i got some Vbar chains for my ford ranger. i got them for all 4 though. didnt even get to use them this year, the rockys had a dry winter.
That is one nice lookin Jeep
@ldmcnutt Ever drive a rear wheel drive car in the snow? I have. My driveshaft broke. Given the choice I would chose to have them on the front. It's based on real life experience. Further, I have chains for all four tires so it's a moot point. Thanks for the info though. I always appreciate helpful people.
Jeep Wrangler in Deep Snow Pacific Northwest Cascades of Oregon LOW PSI does wonders for the Jeep...
nice jeep snow chains
What was that sound at 4:30 when she stopped?? I've never heard that on a jeep before.
Are you familiar with the differences between independent front suspension and sold front axles regarding off-roading?
@bullmoosecalhoun he says why right in the description" I didn't put the rear set on because I realized that I didn't have clearance for them between my rock rail and tire"
ive been thinking about buying the new 2012 wrangler unlimited, but i heard that the trunk cannot be locked. it sounds kind of ridiculous which is why i bring it up. is it true?
Now what would have happen if you got a jump start on it at a good pace and kept up the pace?
Did some snow chains for my R/C Rubicon :) Snow Chains: Axial SCX 10 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
That's awsome.
Beautiful Jeep.
@bigblockbowtie1 Watch the video attached at the beginning of the video. It does fine in the snow. It was the type of snow that was causing the issue. Read the video description.
I have a Viar 440P. This was an impromptu trip. At the time, I didn't have the rock rails cut to allow enough room for the rear chains. Further, the snow up there is packed and is like ripping through a solid block of ice. Look at the video linked in the beginning of this one. 4 chains, 18 PSI, rocks and hills.
Need a full set o chains
@jotlum It was deep enough for the chains to dig down and the start sliding on the differential and still no dirt to show.
@Clipzin33 What's the locker got to do with the jerking? Let's be honest here, you may not how a drive-train works.
@SunnyDaysRFun yeah! i go on ice with like sugar underneath the ice and thats alwase how you go and no matter what snow and yes im not that high up but pretty close
@fitchhollister So basically like a front wheel drive "transmission"
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Can you give me insight as to why your very nice, more powerful, better equipped, and lighter Jeep, with mud tires, has more trouble going through snow slowly, then my 1996 Land Cruiser? I'm not trying to troll, I actually would prefer your Jeep in most situations, I just want to know why close to 2 feet of snow won't slow my truck with no lockers down and it will cause your locked Jeep to slip. Thank you.
ok, I suggested Konig because they have a diamond-shaped design that allows much more grip, I live in the mountains and I use them often pleased with my jeep liberty, a diamond-shaped design allows greater directionality and traction in forward and reverse, are equipped with icebreakers rings for more than half an inch thick, but I do not know 'how to behave on the rock nice jeep
Nice jeep
@masonjr3 I air down just about every time I offroad. This was an exception and I'd have to disagree with you. The chains were clawing through the snow. This is hard packed snow. The snow has been there for weeks if not months. It's not fresh fluffy snow. My contact patch was my entire tire and snow chains. Airing down wouldn't have done anything. Now, if I would have had my rear chains on...that may have and an impact. This video was really just a test run for the chains...
@19baitmaster51 It weighs 5,300 pounds. That's 300 pounds over the GVRW. The weight isn't issue. The snow that lingers all winter while freezing and thawing over and over again is. It's like driving through a solid block of ice.
I just recently got a 2013 jeep wrangler 2 door, I love it. From what I've seen you don't need to lift a 2 door as much to get the same kind of clearance as a 4 door which is nice.. lower center of gravity etc. Plus they look cooler. I get alot of "but you can't get your groceries in it" Nice the back seat folds up completely! Then i get "then you can't carry passengers while doing groceries" then I say.. what passengers? if I had kids I wouldn't have a 2 door. So end.. you got kids need a 4dr
saw this truck at lefthand....that charger is loud and sick
supercharged jeep with snow chains, taking the term "BUST EM LOOSE" to a whole new level.
Nice jeep, I know it came with the lockers (hence the Rubicon) but did you install the Supercharger?
Jeeze. That stuff adds up quick I bet.
Nice truck, nice tires, nice chain, nice weather. Deflate KM2 to 0.4 bar and you get a better result.
wait a supercharger with a front mounted intercooler?
@fitchhollister what does he mean by a transaxle?
you should have driven and let her film..ever think of that?? i had to fast forward...
Her filming was not as good as her driving.
@legionary anti-illuminati Totally unnecessary
Charles That’s cute trying to defend her, but she sucks to be honest
@allrightsreserveddnc Check out the video description and the linked video. It shows the Jeep in much tougher terrain with all four chains. I never expected this video of all of my videos to take off. This video is by far the most tame. The jerking, I'm assuming is the wheel starting and stopping? That is because there is so much force on the tires w/ the chains that the axle shaft is actually bending and springing back into place. Another indicator of the type of snow.
I've got a powertank. I generally don't air up in snow because it's already surrounding the tire, so the tire doesn't need to conform to the snow. That, and you lose ground clearance when you deflate and the problem in snow is that you get stuck when you high center or start pushing too much of it.
I was just looken in and it looks like if she would navagate left and right she would get the traction to move forword!!what say you?
what after market parts do you have on the motor?
@fitchhollister ok so say a truck is slipping on gravel with a lsd, its not going to be abrupt and jerk much. Having two wheels spinning at the same time to me makes me think it would make things jerk because of the stress it is now having put on it
I'm running RCV's up front, this was simply a fit test for the front that became a popular KZhead video. For those that wanted to see them on all four, I did that and provided a link at the beginning of the video. It's on rougher terrain as well.
how fast does it go 0-60 since its super charged
I'm not sure what a Flatlanders Jeep is. I built it myself from the ground up. I hadn't cut the pinch seam yet, so the chains in the rear wouldn't fit. The linked video in the beginning shows all four chains being used, aired down, and out rougher terrain.
Thats bad ass. did ya end up havin to use the winch?
Ok you win, you didnt mention that in previous posts. Just wondering what mods weigh 1/2 ton that you can put on a Jeep.
@fitchhollister understand that. It just appeared at one point the tires were clean and the chains were the only thing catching the ground is what i meant