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Here it is, the follow-up that's probably not as good as the first Sorkinisms video! Now with 100% more Newsroom!
Includes scenes from:
Malice
A Few Good Men
The American President
Sports Night
The West Wing
Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip
Charlie Wilson's War
The Social Network
The Newsroom
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I love how on every one of Sorkin’s shows, every single character (whether the President or some low-level janitor) is the smartest fucking person alive, always at the ready with a cutting comeback and possessing a wide array of knowledge across a large body of interests. With a complete command of the English language to boot.
I like that. From my experiense, I perceive that that's how it is in real life. You'll find a bunch of (low-level?) janitors smarter than some presidents. Btw, are there high level janitors?
Alexander, smarter than one president... Oh wait, there's shrub and trump... Oh and Reagan.. I guess it's some.
"If you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people. If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you."
If it didn't work, it wouldn't work.
Sorkin was able to write quippy dialogue that didn't rely on shitty rhetorical witticisms LONG before Joss ruined the prospect by doing a big thing badly and making a whole career out of it. There's a reason Sorkin is vocally against the idea of "Wit over Intelligence", because guys like Whedon and their terrible, Terrible writing make the whole damn profession look bad, and by extension, make everyone who's just a bit too much of a fan of that sort of thing speak and indeed sound dumber in the process.
I love the resume listing one, that may be the most Sorkiny of all the Sorkinisms
Nobody ever talks about their accomplishments!
People bragging about their resumes is a sure proof way to make you dislike a character
The name obsession with Dana/Danny/Dan/Daniel/Donna/Don and to a lesser degree J names like Jed/Jordan/Jack/Josh/Jim/Jed/Jenna/Jeannie is always hilarious to me.
Honestly! I like how in Studio 60, Sports Night, and The West Wing he has main (for the most part) characters named Dan/Danny lol
There it is
@@Madison-rk5is In A Few Good Men, the lead opposing lawyers were Danny (Tom Cruise) and Jack (Kevin Bacon). And fun fact: Kevin Bacon has played six characters named Jack.
It's a rhythm thing.
Also Jeremy from Sports Night. And that's to say nothing of Charlie (West Wing, Newsroom) and Will (West Wing, Newsroom)
You can also add that both Josh Lyman's father and Will McAvoy's father died on the night of the Illinois Primary.
+Shane Rumsey Bad night to be a dad.
Josh Lyman got out in a witness program and became Will McAvoy
Deep cut!!!
My original comment from 4/28/2019 at the top of the page.
Because... they are brothers!!! {:-0
It's almost hard to believe Sorkin has re-used stuff this many times and yet, by any objective measure, he's been super successful.
+Ka'lika T. Fria'niquia (Tay Tay) Well, of course writing isn't just about how your characters talk.
He's personally written orders of magnitudes more stuff than your average TV writer. His body of work is enormous. Rhythms will emerge.
There it is
My original comment from 4/28/2019 at the top of the page.
Arthur Hailey wrote the same NYT Best Selling novel like 13 times.
It is unbelievable how some of these sentences sound so different, based on the actor who says it, and the music that plays in the background.
That's why I always hate when shows recast characters, which thankfully isn't done as much anymore. Actors are not interchangeable because they each bring something different to the parts they play. This video is proof of that by showing the many ways an actor can deliver the same line.
That’s why it’s brilliant
I'll continue to go on record to say that, while there are flaws in Sorkin's writing, I find these repeatable "Sorkinisms" to be a feature, not a bug.
"What about Mohammad Al Mohammed El Mohammad Bin Bizir?" "He went to Fox." "Fox hired someone with three Mohammads in their name?"
Kinda racist lol
@Ro Herms Well yeah
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 fits Fox though.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Fox News hosts aren’t a different race. Even if they look like a grown up hitler youth unit.
@@jimmy2k4o All the women are clones
Mohammed Al, Mohammed El, Mohammed bin Bazir - HE USED THE EXACT SAME NAME. Good catch, OP. Good catch.
Sreeram N R they caught it in the amazon stuff on the side
I always assumed that one was an intentional references
"Fox hired a guy with three Mohammeds in his name?"
It's because it's a true story, kind of. Muhammad was actually a janitor at Fux News.
wow I'm a big fan of Sorkin's work especially West Wing and The Newsroom. What freaked me out the most was the use of Mohammed el Mohammed el Mohammed bin Bazir in both show.
Well if you like that one how about the West Africa Republic known as Equatorial Kundu. I forget which season of the West Wing it was used but it was used in the final season of The Newsroom (the story in which Neal had to go on the run from the law).
Sorkinisms II - The Sork-quel
Lol, didn't realize the fire in the trash can in Social Network was a self-referential gag.
David Fincher and Sorkin repeatedly clashed during pre-production on The Social Network, with Fincher forcing Sorkin to keep re-writing the script over and over again. I wonder if the flaming trashcan began as the same verbal joke, but Fincher said "no, we need to see the trashcan".
True Story: Aaron Sorkin's parents were killed by an intact piece of glass.
This was too funny.
On the night of the Illinois primary!
17 people disliked this for reasons passing understand. They did a big thing badly. It's almost hard to believe that they did it.
I'm standing here and telling you that the number is 31 now!
@@gitc13 Don't get cute with me. I'm not other people.
They don’t give a damn.
18 people...you forgot to include yourself /jk /sorkanism
Is there any way of knowing if the entities that left these dislikes is 10 years old or a basset hound?
Every story has been told, every song has been sung and every word has long been spoken, over and over.
Surely, someone has said that before :)
I have to admit that 'six to five and pick'em' is a fabulous phrase. I should do as Sam suggests and steal it from him outright.
All day, every day, and twice on Sunday. Also, I use A) and, 2) .
While everyone talks about Sorkin and whether he is being lazy or just knows he doesn't need to reinvent the wheel, I'd like to take a moment to give props to the editor of this piece. Just sourcing the cuts must have taken hours. Really cool video.
It's interesting to note that he has a wide range of characters in theory, but then makes them ALL dialog heavy and makes that dialog the same for all characters. Snark before personality.
Not for nothing, but I could write like Sorkin, or Sorkin could write like me. try to write... try to...write. make a billion dollars and turn his house into my private ping pong room...But if I had you'd know. Cos Id have written it.
+Loop Set There it is.
It's almost hard to believe you're just a youtube commenter.
I DONT GIVE A DAMN!
My original comment from 4/28/2019 at the top of the page.
If you haven't read M A K O's youtube comments, you haven't seen Shakespeare how it was meant to be done.
I found another one only I don't recall the WW-episode it was in but I'm pretty sure it was. In the Steve Jobs movie there is this dialogue: Andy Hertzfeld: We are not a pit crew at Daytona, this can't be fixed in seconds. Steve Jobs: You didn't have seconds, you had three weeks, the universe was created in a third of that time. Hertzfeld: Well, some day you have to tell us how you did it
Yea "for reasons passing understanding" is almost certainly my favorite Sorkin phrase of all, and one I was honestly surprised wasn't in the first video for how much of a staple it is. I use it plenty myself. Way to pick up the slack :) Another big thing Sorkin uses is one character not hearing another and simply asking "what was that/excuse me/etc", the kind of detail that's left out of most movie and TV dialogue.
After 3:36, you should've had LEO: "He thought I was the butler" (when talking about Lord John Marbury BARTLETT: "For first couple of weeks, so did I"
This is FANTASTIC!!!! As a huge Sorkin fan who has watched all of the movies and DVDs repeatedly, these are so easy to catch. I am a little surprised he is recycling some things in the Newsroom, but love the show anyway. Thanks for putting this together!!!
R.I.P.: Josh's father = pulmonary embolism, Will's father = ventricular fibrillation.
LOVE THESE! I was surprised "It's almost hard to believe" wasn't included in the first one, that's one of my favorite Sorkinisms.
it was almost hard to believe, really
"And I'm never ever sick at sea" is a line from "I am the captain of the Pinafore" from, ahem, Gilbert and Sullivan's "Pirates of Penzance"!
You missed Pete from Moneyball's resume - Yale economics.
A lot of these "sorkinisms" are obvious recycling of preferred material but some of these seem similar, like getting names wrong, but actually if you watch the shows are used for different reasons in different ways. As for the repeating of certain phrases, english is a language of idioms, time to time, reach for the stars, etc they are used regularly in everyday conversations, one of the things that makes his dialogue work so well is the seemingly natural way people talk, repeating phrases and making points through repetition and cadence.
+A Haye Agreed.
honestly ive never heard anybody say more than half of these idioms (outside of a reference) in person, so i feel they absolutely count
My original comment from 4/28/2019 at the top of the page.
This is beautiful and I would never complain about these. Thank you for this video.
'I'm not kidding/screwing around' is another great one. Really enjoyed these videos. Fine work.
I'm always amazed by editing like this because I know how tedious it can be. Bravo. 👏
You have given me new shows to check out! thank you!
Wow! You must have put so much work into this. Thank you! I love it.
The amount of time and effort and skill that goes into these videos is astounding. These are valuable works of scholarship.
These bring me such joy! Thank you.
I loved it! If people kept track of how often I used the same phrases, I'd have a scary, long list. It makes sense if I was writing dialog, I'd fall back on my own speech patterns quite a bit...
You're doing gods work with this video
This is brilliant. Great work!
Both of these were so awesome. I'd always noticed a few of these, but you found so many more than I ever imagined. If you ever do another, I know there's some "don quixote" and "I'm in charge of morale here" reuse between WW and Newsroom.
Fine, I'll watch all these again.
He must have really liked Belgium, lol.
Belgium seems to be the go to for generic European countries. It's shape and character is just undefined enough to fit any situation. It's like a Delaware. I'm sure it has a distinguishing feature, I just couldn't name one. (Belgium gets the edge there as I don't think Delaware has any waffles named for it.)
@@pigs18 I dunno why Delaware is a burn but it totally is. Belgium is near my country but I can’t really pick them out a line up either.
@@pigs18 The Eu headquarters? Waffles?
@@siracastori01 I mentioned waffles.
@@pigs18 Didn't notice the 'read more' thingy under your comment, my bad.
Great work once again, man.
"I'm from the United States of Suck My-" "ALRIGHT" Always kills me
I have watched his stuff so many times that I look for these. I love his signature "Sorkisms"
Perfect, thank you so much for posting.
Being a guy who loves to edit, I appreciate all you do.
The reach for the stars bits are always the ones that get me the most. Like that one bit in West Wing where Josh is just spitballing ideas and he talks about modern nations competing with science, and competing for who can do the most to advance our collective civilization, rather than who can "win" and be domininant through war, and how there is no real excuse for not doing that. And, just... yeah. Why the hell can't the world work that way?
Brilliant editing
Loved every minute of it. Great job in doing this. If comments were beers, here goes yours! Have more like this? For example, with David Mamet? An influence for Sorkin, by the way. Thanks!!
Not at all disappointing! Thanks for all your hard work editing.
I loved when they started with Belgium, I knew what was coming lmao
You've just ruined my suspension of disbelief! I can't watch any Sorkin movies or tv shows anymore. Okay, yes I can, but still! Well done.
I limit myself to A Few Good Men.
the odds are 6 to 5 -- and pick 'em --- that you will watch Sorkin again
Oh God, Rust was right. Time is a flat circle.
I'm glad you incorporated Newsroom this time.
Again ... brilliant. Thanks!
It's almost hard to believe
Every disappointing sequel has one great moment rivaling even the original. This is one of them.
Great editing once again. I do want to mention that on studio 60 Danny tells Jordan she’s basically a minivan when they are on the roof together. Toby says the same thing to Andy on Air Force One.
Congratulations, because Dan Rather noticed this and asked Sorkin about it who said he watched it. In that interview they also talked about our love to see big people fall.
Words, when spoken out loud for the sake of performance, are music. They have rhythm and pitch and timbre and volume. These are the properties of music, and music has the ability to find us and move us, and lift us up in ways that literal meanings can't. Do you see? Jed Bartlett.
Seriously, wow. These are nothing short of genius but the part with all the name mistakes deserves a fucking oscar. I want to high-five you until both our elbows drip blood.
Instead of watching what's "better than other stuff" on current tv, this reminds me I'd enjoy way more re-watching my DVDs of WW and Newsroom, where I thoroughly enjoyed every episode -- the banter, drama, excellent acting, fast-paced humor & one-line exchanges, make you laugh & cry, draw you in, make you feel like the characters were really a part of your life. Yeah ... gonna do that.
you are brilliant and I salute you, sir
I say "for reasons passing understanding" all the time... certainly got it from this, but didn't realize it until now.
"Abrupt conversation." Please. Also, I love these. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback man. I appreciate the level of detail in your thoughts. I think I stand by the decision to cut so tightly, although it could be loosened in some places. But I do agree that the one-frame blips probably could've been avoided, that was my bad. And I don't not like you...don't be ridiculous, everybody likes you :)
Revisiting this after watching the trial of the Chicago 7 and hearing the "One egg is an-Oeuf" joke again.
Very clever, to lower expectations there, so we'd love it as much as the first. Well played.
Also, the woman at 4.00 is called Sherry Wexler, and on The Newsroom, the woman of OWS is called Shelley Wexler. Makes me wonder if someone Aaron Sorkin doesn't like has a similar sounding name.
+Lynn van Duren Maybe he knows someone named Shelly Wexler.
I'd love to see all the ripping on hockey and soccer in the next one
Almost put them in this one, but cut for time. Maybe Sorkinisms III...Thanks for catching that!
What can I say? Man’s got a style and it works!
Another phenomenal edit. Same accolades as my last comment. Though I am just a *little* surprised that your "both at the same time" run didn't end with Toby's "No, I'm disagreeing with you. That doesn't mean I'm not listening to you or understanding what you're saying - I'm doing all three at the same time." But hey, I'm just a graduate of the School of Hard Knocks and senior editor of the Harvard Law Revue (we'll be at Haha's all week).
I love Sorkin, but whoa Nellie, this is extremely well done.
There it is!
Sad how many of these wonderful actors aren’t with us any more.
two phrases I always noticed on West Wing - "a carton of Luckies" and "not to put my head in the lion's mouth"
Thanks for the sequel! Nice touch in overlapping some if them. Now it's harder to choose which one is a fave. (If you're doing part three, please include male anchors having trouble with pants ? - Casey and Dan in Sorts Night and Will in The Newsroom
And they never get old!
This was awesome
This is lovely....I just need to remember some of these phrases...
Sorkin obviously has a lot of talent. One thing that really bothers me about his writing, though, is the fact that all his characters talk in roughly the same way, with the same cadences and the same expressions. That's why these lines can be spoken by any character. David Mamet is the same way.
In Studio60 there is a scene where Danny chases Jordan, can't seem to find her, and she is standing behind him. She tells him "look behind you", then they kiss. A very similar scene takes place in The Newsroom with Jim and Maggie. Both powerful scenes tho.
I adore you for this...! The number of times I have enjoyed watching Sorkin shows, thinking to myself 'that was used so-and-so, I remember that from such-and-such', etc... Gather ye rosebuds in particular, stands out very epicly. Love these shows, to bits, but yeah, its funny that he re-uses so much hehe... Some things are just so Sorkin.
Kevin does it again in part two , almost hard to believe, i would never use them never
Well done.
WHOMP THERE IT IS
On one hand: Yes. Sorkin is quite guilty of recycling material. (Between this and the first there are actually some things missed.) But I don’t know if I’d extend it to “my gosh! People have said “from time to time” many times in his screenplays!” Yes, as have people on Earth. Also, he should get an exemption for “for reasons passing understanding”. That’s just a great phrase, put it where you can, you know?
Well done sir, well done.
OMG! Cudos to you for doing this. How long did it take? Very impressive!
5:18 Steve Jobs (2015): "You can complain about memory or you can complain about price but you can't do both at the same time."
Absolutely brilliant :-) Here's another one, although I can't find the episode name. In West Wing Series 4, when Sam is about to lose his campaign, he and Toby go into a bar and order a couple of shots and a beer (if it helps, you used this same scene in the first Sorkinisms video). Toby tells Sam he's going to lose - and lose huge. Tom Cruise says the same thing to Demi Moore in A Few Good Men while they're having dinner in a restaurant.
There it is.
This should be linked in a comment every time someone says Sorkin is a great writer, the man has been plagiarising himself for decades.
Thank you.
And I’m never, ever sick at sea.
I'm suddenly realizing a lot of the phrases I use on a regular basis come from Aaron Sorkin. And I'm okay with that.
How I gotta re-watch all of season 2 of the newsroom to catch all these
I'm pretty sure Camelot is referenced more than once as well, al least in The West Wing and in The Newsroom.
I don’t see this tired comedy trope that Sorkin apparently loves: “He’s behind me, isn’t he?” (and he is), after a character has been talking shit about another.