A Execução de Thomas More
2016 ж. 5 Қар.
107 325 Рет қаралды
Thomas More foi um intelectual, escritor, jurista e político. Chegou a ser nomeado Lord Chancellor, o principal cargo político da Inglaterra do século XVI, e aceitou entregar tudo para não renunciar o que tinha de mais importante. A sua fé em Cristo e na Igreja por Ele constituída, a Igreja Católica. Entenda o motivo da execução de Thomas More no quinto episódio do Bom Combate: • Video
I get chills when the executioner asks St. Thomas More for his pardon and blessing. He’s hooded, supposed to be feared, but humbled himself because he saw the virtue, faith, and piety that Thomas has for God. Even better when Thomas offered him charity in return.
This was common practice though for the executioner to ask for preemptive forgiveness from the condemned. And usually there would be a small prayer or blessing, mainly in the hopes that he’ll kill them instantly and not screw it up
Not really “humbling” himself really. As executioners were regarded basically as the lowest of the low. I’m fairly certain (tho not 100%) that it was common practice to pray/ask for forgiveness in some way.
@@tobieevans3457 Oh interesting, I’d have to look into that. I can see that being true.
@@ChachiTelevision1979It was common for them to ask forgiveness for two reasons: to emphasize that they were just carrying out the will of the State and had no personal motives, and to try to prevent revenge efforts by the family of the executed (the same reasons they wore masks to hide their identities) especially if the beheading was botched, as it sometimes was. When Margeret Pole was executed the inexperienced guy kept hitting her shoulders and head with the axe, it reportedly took 30 seconds for him to finally sever her neck.
It was a very chilling and terrifying time, simply because King Henry was determined to have a mail child to inherit the throne, and he would do anything to bring that about, no matter what.
Henry turned his kingdom upside down and inside out for Anne Boleyn. This was a major coffin nail for her as Henry began to wonder if she was worth all the sacrifices and strife
Of course she did not.The only good thing she made,was Elizabeth.But she had very little to do with her daughter's greatness,the little princess was so like her father.
Martyr of the one, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, Saint Thomas More, Pray for us.
He burnt enough people to deserve two executions
@@rogerrousco2921 in his defense, this is pre-enlightenment. Religion was much greater and he legitimately thought Protestants were leading people away from the light of God.
@@lordflashheart3706 because they were
Many protestant are insult Catholic because Catholic believe in Mary as mediator and pray to holy spirit. As my experience, they always seek your negative as your sin to their protestant religion. Hopefuly, people who born Catholic is also die as Catholic, strong in their believe, Catholic Saint and holy spirit 🙏
@@lordflashheart3706 he was right. England is now a catholic country again. Prince Charles is said not be a closet Greek orthodox. Anglicanism is nothing but a show piece.
Thomas More was an English lawyer, philosopher, politician, and a martyr. He was also a very courageous man.
Pray for us Saint Thomas More ✝️😭
Oh to have have a faith this strong. To believe in something so fervently that you would die for it.
What always struck me about more he wasn't a priest he acted like a catholic priest
@@IndependentConversations not a priest, he acted like a saint
@@IndependentConversations He simply acted as any Catholic should.
@@AS-yz2iz A heart of a lion, a soul pointed to Christ, and a wish of that of a justly ruled Homeland.
Never forget how many men More burned at the stake because they had a different faith to him.
Henry's crys when Thomas was executed made me cry and the wayThomas put his arms out really upset me
This scene never fails to make me teary-eyed. 😔
@@vividius7951 but tyndale deserved such for spreading heresy
@@vividius7951 have no idea what you're referring to
"The blood of the Martyrs are the seeds of the Church".
Thomas More didnt lose his life. He gave his life. Theres a difference. He knew the risks for speaking out against the oath of supremacy. He could have signed it. He didn't
@@matvangogh As a result of not signing the oath of supremacy, he and Cardinal John Fisher received a Martyr's Crown!
@@matvangogh Yes, he didn't because at the end of the day, he was loyal to the Kingdom of God, not Henry.
@@holyromanemperor420 He was loyal to the Pedophile Of Rome, not the Kingdom Of Heaven.
For most executioners back then as today, the job was only occasional and it took a heavy toll on their psyche. A lot of them were woodcutters, butchers or in some other trade where you needed skill with a blade. Sometimes they were drunk on the job to make it easier on them. They didn't enjoy it. They often lived in fear of vengeful family or friends of their victims.
And that Is why they used masks and stuff
Filmaço !! Reza a lenda que Moore morreu sem fazer sequer um gemido, mas toda há dor do momento final dele foi sentida por Henrique VII. Por isso ele agonizou.
He died with such grace and dignity
He died as a true man and of his faith.
Damn fool should've made a run for it
@@SHADOWNINE79 I sure the hell would have
JRM really pulls off the scream here. I don’t know if Henry really regretted Moore’s death but damn, that’s the scream of someone losing their best friend and knowing it’s your fault. It’s harrowing experience for sure.
Henry was demonically oppressed. He was led by the devil himself. The only one he reportedly regretted executing was Thomas Cromwell and not because of love. He regretted because he never found a right hand man more effective than Cromwell So you can imagine how evil that King was. I Pray for all their Souls.
Saint Thomas More pray for us
Henry knew that this was wrong. I believe he regretted this execution more than any of the others.
He felt betrayed by More. The only person historians say Henry regretted having executed was his right hand man, Thomas Cromwell.
@@mollykeane2571 Not so. He didn't feel betrayed by More, especially since he had promised him that he wouldn't have to sign anything and then cut off his head because he wouldn't.
@@mollykeane2571 This is true. He realized that he was manipulated and lashed out at his court for it.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216 Being manipulated by others seems to be what’s happening to our current king also. Not that we expected anything different.
In that moment, a Saint was made. That had to hurt the soul of the King.
A rare dual saint, too. Sir Thomas more is recognized as a saint in both the Catholic Church and the Church of England. Technically, Cardinal Fisher is a saint, but he is exclusively limited to catholism and is not recognized as a matryr in the Church of england
A man for all seasons.
I love that movie. Paul Scofield’s performance was masterful.
Only Season 1 really.
@@Voidwurm1701 I was refering to the old film by the same name about him, but if it's a clever joke then good one.
Saints glorieux martyrs du Christ priez pour nous !
St. Thomas More, pray for us
This was when the resentment towards Anne started
I really cried when sir thomas died💔💔💔 I wish I had the power to stop this cold bloody execution
If I could ask Henry viii any question it would be this. I would ask him if he knew that the point of no return was agreeing to cut off a man that was more loved than his own father, I would ask if he knew his soul was gone officially at that moment or something else?
You'd be extremely disappointed with Henry's answer. He would most likely tell you that day was tuesday for him.
@@ignacio4159 oh I have no doubt but I want to truly see if leaving Brandon alive was enough or did it eat away at him. Hell I disguise myself as his confessor just to make sure
Unfortunately Henry died still thinking he was completely justified in everything he did. On his deathbed he was asked if he trusted in Christ and commended his soul to Him; he was unable to speak, but squeezed the priest's hand signalling "yes." Bet it was a shock to him when he woke up in the afterlife and saw where he had REALLY ended up . . .
@@ignacio4159 he actually deeply regretted this decision
Dude would probably laugh and have you executed
The fact is, I can celebrate the dignity and sacrifice of St Thomas More as much I want from the comfort of my postmodern, 21st Century, virtual ivory tower, but I know for absolute sure that I would have been one of those primitive idiots in the crowd watching just-another-execution in semi-interested glee had I been alive during that godforsaken period of English history. An ignorant sinner in any era is just an ignorant sinner, regardless of the medium.
I read alot of comments as i have nothing better to do in this time of my life. It is very hard to find people who are self aware, AWAKE and real. You are one of them Sir. Excatly and i agree with you..unfortunately we would've been one of those sad souls watching as this Great man was being executed.
I admire your honesty sir and I wish more had it. I really annoys me when some self-righteous person looks at those who lived centuries ago and put themselves on a higher plane: "Well, if I lived back then I wouldn't have acted that way!" Yes, you would have. To one degree or another we're all products of the time we live in. One other thing I'd tell the self-righteous: Those people back then who you look down on would have no use for YOU either! So get over yourself.
Relato triste,porém é uma história de amor e fé!
I feel no sympathy for Henry VIII.
Aziz Thomas... Ağlamaktan gözlerim şişmişti...
São Thomas More, Rogai por nós!
Poderia upar a execução de São John Fischer ? Obrigado.
Sanctus Thomas Morus, ora pro nobis. Amen
Quelle dignité et grandeur ! Saint Thomas More, priez pour la conversion des anglo-saxons !
Saint Thomas More pray for us sinners 🙏
The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. - Tertullian 197 Anno Domini
Thomas More was a great person he deserved much better than Henry's bloodthirsty, evil, wicked and cruel tyranny. An epic speech by an honorable and a faithful person. I wish someone in the crowd would've stepped in like Charles Brandon his assistant. The score by Trevor Morris is absolutely beautiful and breathtaking. Incredible piece of music. Worst monarch ever. If you look up the word humble in the dictionary you will see a picture of Thomas More praying. This just feels so wrong on every level I bet everyone in the crowd were thinking the same thing. Henry was such a sadist and only feels sorry for himself for going through with this not for Thomas's fate. He was even prepared to give him a much more gruesome death initially. Many good people died under Henry's rule. Jeremy Northam gave an amazing performance and acting but this is such a sad scene you just feel heartbroken over it. I was really hoping someone would've came to his rescue. Thomas put piety, family and selflessness first and he showed that by refusing to sign the paper and not heed to the king's wishes. Emotional part. The Tudors died with this sequence. 1509-1547 was a bad time to be in England. You have to be completely devoid of all emotions not feeling anything by this. More wasn't even given a fair trial. Henry's action here is completely unforgiving.
Sancte Thoma More, Ora Pro Nobis
Pobre homem . Descanse em paz são Tomas Fisher
Henry was a coward. Never did any of his bloody work.
I love how classy this and Anne Boleyn's executioners are.
I agree, both executioners didn't really want to feel damned by killing who they thought deep down were innocent people.
@@Steve-df3lo then they shouldn’t have been executioners in the first place
@@ju2545 yeah, what goes around...
@@ju2545Awful choice of career.
Did Henry regret what he did? Just the way he screamed then also who was the person been pulled via the horse before? Not sure if I missed something when watching the show
Henry was his friend since was 8 years old
What i love most was Henry's reaction - not just the scream of despair but the look of mounting horror in his eyes: "He's not really going to do this, is he? I'M not really going to do this, am I?"
He did things he couldn’t take back.
Absoulte perfection
I'm curious in the trial itself of Saint Thomas More, Rich is alleged to have said the words King or the Parliament had not the power to do it, [{OR WORDS TO THAT AFFECT}], I'm curious if that is in fact what he said, Saint Thomas More was known as a great Lawyer of his day, why he didn't challenge that. I appreciate that after all this time perhaps we don't know what really happened, or perhaps Saint Thomas More knew he was done for.
Does anyone know what this prayer is translated?
His prayer is bits and pieces of the prayer “Pietate Tua”. Loosen, O Lord, we pray Thee, in Thy pity, the bonds of our sins, and by the intercession of the blessed Mary, ever Virgin Mother of God, the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and all saints, keep us Thy servants and our abodes in all holiness; cleanse us, our relations, kinsfolk, and acquaintances, from all vices; adorn us with all virtues; grant to us peace and health; repel our enemies visible and invisible; curb our carnal desires; vouchsafe us healthful seasons; bestow Thy charity upon our friends and our enemies; guard Thy holy city; preserve our Sovereign Pontiff N., and defend all prelates, priests, and all Christian people from all adversity. Let Thy blessing be ever upon us, and grant to all the faithful departed eternal rest. Through Christ our Lord. The show’s much more abbreviated version reduces the full prayer to only the following: Loosen, O Lord, we pray Thee, in Thy pity, the bonds of our sins, and by the intercession of the blessed Mary, ever Virgin, keep us Thy servants in all holiness. Through Christ our Lord.
His prayer at the scaffold is the beginning of Psalm 51. The bible has dozens of varied English translations, but to quote the New Living Translation, it begins: Have mercy on me, O God, because of your unfailing love.
I think Henry thought More would eventually give in.
Saint Thomas Moore, ora pro nobis. Based!
Viva nosso senhor Jesus ♥️
Viva Cristo Rey!
qual é o filme
É uma série, The Tudors
Love Bl. ( St). Thomas Moore
3:27 me when I realize I have PE next
I relate to this comment a bit too much 😂
3:27 when i step on lego
Why did henry scream?
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 this so sad 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I really think and believe King Henry the 8th didn't bat an eyelid in the deaths of St's Thomas More and John Fisher and so many others
Bishop St john Fisher was in prison and martyred around the same time as st Thomas More, when St Thomas's wife and daughter brought him some buns during a visit he asked the guard to bring some to Bishop Fisher. St's Thomas and John Pray for us, Amen.
What goes round comes around MR MORE
Heretic.
What movie is it?
Old TV show - The Tudors
Everything went bad for Henry after this. He killed his greatest protector and ally who loved him in the truest way.
Religion -the bane of every person
A cena de um suposto arrependimento de Henrique VIII é meio forçado!
A cena é forçada mas é sabido que Henrique virou para Ana Bolena e disse " vê mulher? Você me custou a vida do homem mais honesto de meu reino"
Min 0:56 el mismo demonio
That is what being a religious fanatic gets you.
3:47 ewwwww
Just don't eat me ok????
Fuckin' Henry VIII.
One is in heaven the other in hell
A man.
Henry was as a mental case🇦🇺👎
The scene is mildly historically inaccurate. Thomas was not executed within the walls of the Tower. He was instead executed outside the walls just a few meters away on the hill. What is now Tower Hill Tube station.
Remember who started the persecution
You have to respect the bravery of Thomas. But he was a monster. Almost as bad as Henry was toward the end.
Very wrong. Cromwell was just as cold hearted and brutal as Henry. More was a good person who had an unjust end by a sadistic tyrant that also felt sorry for himself for doing this just to see how pitiful, cowardly and weak he was as a king. Burning heretics who shout heresy is not "monstrous". The executions and constant beheadings were evil from Henry VIII. More was a faithful man who died being humble as he lived. Henry is the bad person of the entire plot very unforgiving and ruthless. He ruled through politics only while More for example ruled through religion and was a much wiser and a better individual.
Muito exagerado.
Na realidade, essa cena inteira foi baseada no relato histórico da época
@@giuliorobertoful Except that St. Thomas More had a beard, and he told the executioner not to cut his beard, because it had not offended His Majesty.
Well he burns many Priest Alive!!!
3:35 Gay scream 💀💀💀
Que Tomas fisher,Tomás more. Bem feito. Ele mandou muita gente pra fogueira.
que barbaridade
Tomas Fisher... Não sabe nem o nome do homem que tenta caluniar...
Deixa de mentiras
A única coisa que foi queimada foi sua inteligência
There is no hate like Christian love.
True Christian Love is Christ and he is above and beyond anything we ever will be.
to a demon, it would look like hate.
he was no martyr, he burned Christians alive for just reading the Bible themselves and praying to Jesus directly.
Who? The supposed "saint " did?
@@Lulu-mj2fi Sir Thomas Moore did,
@@rileydd08God saw fit to make him a saint by influencing the Vicar Of Christ to name him as such. In God We Trust for God knows best.
@@Steve-df3lo that was a political move bro, Catholicism is all about Paganism and idolatry of dead people.
@@Bellg how does it feel to be an idolator and necromancer?
More was a hypocrite who believed everyone to live a pious life of poverty, charity and austerity but nonetheless sought wealth, power, and worldly possessions in his lifetime. Oh and he was more than happy to burn at the stake anyone who crossed the Catholic Church.
Thomas More, Martyr and Saint, did nothing wrong.
If that's what you actually believe about the man then you don't know him at all.
This is the truth about him
@@rc59191 Let’s be honest, no one truly knows what anyone was really like back then. We’re talking about a 487 year time gap here. All we have are handwritten accounts that aren’t even trustworthy a lot of the time. Just because someone is died a martyr, that doesn’t make them a good person. That just means they have bravery. Even being declared a “saint” by the Catholic Church doesn’t make you a good person.
@@lysie9524 you're not wrong he was a flawed man but not the violence loving monster some people want to make him out to be.
How many people were executed during Henry VIII reign
rimane comunque la migliore morte assieme alla ghigliottina, rispetto alle altre molto più atroci del tempo
Que legal pena que não foi ele mesmo