Race vs Religion w/Carl Lentz - Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man Ep. 7
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It's time to talk about race & religion. Carl Lentz, lead pastor of Hillsong East Coast, sits down with Emmanuel Acho to have an uncomfortable conversation about the role religion plays in fueling and/or killing racism.
Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man the book comes out on November 10th! Pre-Order Now at: www.uncomfortableconvos.com
This brings me to tears. I am an 81 year-old white woman. A Christian who has not known she was racist until recently. Thank you Emmanuel. We can all change. If we’re brave and honest.
Good for you for recognizing that you want to change!
@@williamholdstrom1879 She did not say or imply this at all. You are just triggered because you're being confronted with the ugly reality that racial injustice is alive and kicking in this country and instead of self-reflection to see if you have perpetrated this injustice (then trying to find ways to change), you are deflecting and throwing around hyperbole. No one said, "Shame on you for being white." We are saying, "Shame on you for being born white, watching those who are born black struggle BECAUSE they are born black, then deciding its not your problem and ignoring it." We are asking that you take a long hard look at what the world is really like. Listen to the very real, very scary experiences that your black neighbors have had in their lives, and change not only your mindset but help to change the mindset of your peers. Myrna listened to what her black neighbors were saying. She reflected on her own actions. She found that she had been perpetuating racist ideals. She decided that is not what she wants her legacy to be. She has decided to change. This is beautiful. Not shameful. This is strength. Not weakness.
Ms. Myrna, you give me hope 🙂
This comment made me so happy.
@@iLydz was there a catalog before you were born? Is that how it works? You choose all these things before birth? Holy shit! Why in the fuck did I choose this form? Why did I choose to be Beyonce's privilege kid, or a Rockefeller? Wtf was I thinking? Oh wait none of us choose were we started. Be we all have a choice in where we end. Individual choices in our lives to get us where we end. The only "privilege" is wealth. Kinda like the guy posting this video. I wonder what his net worth is... Oh 1-5 million dollars? Holy shit? Are you be told what to think by another rich man? But remember he was so oppressed by all the white NFL owners. Who signed his check right? Wait I guess 68% of the NFL player that are black are being oppressed right? And the 80% of NBA players that are black are oppressed too huh? No one is oppressed anymore. Love the life you were given. Stop the pointing at everyone else besides ourselves. #1stworldproblems
If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. 1 John 4:20 This was powerful!
Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master. Similar statements regarding obedient slaves can be found in Colossians 3:22-24, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, and Titus 2:9-10. i can do it too. look at what god really says about all this. Also if he had a problem with it. He wouldn't have created it in the first place. Or the all powerful, all knowing, all loving god took a day off? or did this slip his mind? or was he to weak to stop his own church? or was down for it in the first place? or maybe he doesn't give a fuck? or maybe it's an imaginary friend that people created for controlling other?Aka business as usual. Funny how you give these gods passes and still worship them.
@@garym3839 Could not agree with you more. I still believe that there is some sort of higher being in this universe, something that created us....maybe is it this entity that Christians refer to God, Muslims as Allah, and Jews as Yahweh, but I will never acknowledge that the Bible is this God's holy word. Why? The bible was written by man, NOT by God. God DID NOT write the text that we see in the bible. Men, thousands of years ago, did. They heard a voice in their head and they thought it was worthy enough to chisel it into stone and over the next few millennia, it was translate over and over by other men. Yeah, no thank you. So to recap, nice call out. Stay safe man.
The general interpretation to the verses you listed is that Christians should “turn the other cheek” and not do anything in an unrighteous manner. Even if it means being subservient to a master. God doesn’t guarantee us an easy (or even happy) life on Earth. Our reward lies in Heaven. The world is tainted by sin, and, therefore, life is unfair. Not that we shouldn’t strive to make things better, but not in a way that causes more sin or harbors selfish reasoning.
@@garym3839 Thats an unnuanced take on historical slavery mentioned in the Bible. In biblical times, people became voluntary servants in order to pay off debts. But they were always treated with dignity, allowed to own property and move freely within the community, and could buy back their freedom at any time, or else be freed from all their debts in the 7th year. It was nothing like the race-based chattel slavery in the Americas, where people were treated in the most inhumane way possible, in most cases, from birth to death, and stripped of their names, languages, cultures and most of all their humanity. www.rzim.org/read/rzim-global/how-can-i-trust-the-bible-when-it-was-used-to-justify-slavery
In Col 4:1 Paul advises members of the church, who are slave masters, to "treat your slaves justly and fairly, realizing that you too have a Master in heaven.” ....After reading Joseph's journey and trials in Egypt we do not know why God allowed the Israelites to be held in bondage. However, they were rules that we discarded even with the Trans Atlantic and Middle passage of slaves to the Americas.
Can you please do an “uncomfortable” conversation between an African and an African American. I just HATE the rift that’s between us. We are literally brothers and sisters at the end of the day 😔
I think that has more to do with geography than race!
cheshirecateyes either way a conversation needs to be had!
Totally ❗
@@kenyamilligan5304 In that case, then the conversation needs to include everyone from the African Diaspora, since it seems to me that all of us have the same issue, whether it be African Americans, Africans, Caribbeans/West Indians, Afro-Latinx! We, those of us from the diaspora, are feeling disconnected from the Motherland. Sometimes, I feel we're resentful of our brothers/sisters who have direct, tangible "African" experiences that we, the children of the African diaspora will never have. And, I suspect that it may also be a situation where Africans feels like those of us who are descendants of the once enslaved people are better positioned to take advantage of opportunities, whether in the USA or the UK for instant. (Of course, this is suppositions on my part.) Again, it's not about race, for we're all of the same race, it's about geographical locations and cultural identities. As a result, it's the main issue that has kept is from being united as the descendants of the peoples of Africa. We can't seem rise above our tribalism. We need to do work to bridge the divide between us as the children of Africa!
I Smash Back um lol what?
I would love to see a version of this with the Latinos sitting in Carl's chair. This is amazing and what is saddening is that my "Latino" community has so much racism embedded in it they don't even realize it.
yesss!! especially in my community (white latinxs) there’s so much racism that then gets excused with “oh i’m latinx” and there’s such a superiority complex against BIPOC latinxs
So true!!! They complain about racism but they are so racist
Yeah who’s the source
oh absolutely. i was bullied exclusively by latinos growing up for being black (i grew up in a predominantly black and latino neighborhood). i got the n word thrown at me all the time. honestly, there’s anti blackness damn near everywhere - asian store owners following/keeping an eye on black customers when they shop for example.
I totally agree. Hispanics and Latinos use many "labels" to disassociate themselves from being black or having African roots deriving from ancient natives.
Even at nearly 20 minutes now, these things still feel too short.
They definitely are. These conversations are too nuanced to sum up in 20 minutes but Emmanuel does a heck of a job trying.
You want to see short but 100% honest Steven? Check out my Human Race Revealed - ''Got a Minute'' - race card series on KZhead. Might change your life. Remember - "You can choose to Live a Lie or you can set yourself Free. The Choice is yours. Choose Wisely." - Dave.
I agree that they're too short for some of us; I've thought that since the beginning... BUTTTTTT.... I also think that the short length can probably help to resonate with people who find some of these ideas hard to swallow for the first time. I would love to see an "expanded" version.
It does not seem that uncomfortable when the people he is interviewing seem to feel the same way as he does. How about a black person who attends a predominantly white church, or a black conservative, black people who did not live around racism & how that can be duplicated, someone who can come up mentoring programs in struggling neighborhoods to help keep families together & help with early home education. I’m sure there are many other truly uncomfortable conversations.
@@amywjn People need to get truly uncomfortable and admit - 1. That no-one is black or white. 2. That every person is a POC (as we all have colour in our skin, dark, medium, light and everything in between). 3. That every person is a multi-hybrid of the original Human Archetype Breeds that make up the modern Human Race. 4. That all the abusive terms falsely attached to the term Racism (which actually means ''One who stands for, protects and helps guide their Race - & this is the duty of EVERY member of the Human Race) truly have nothing to do with it and are part of Fake Racism and Apartheid / Collective Social Segregation - wielded by Fake Racists, Apartheid Addicts and War mongers, Profiteers etc - who are the Alter-Ego of the Human Race - the Human Disgrace aka the Base Human to regularly De-Base, Divide, Manipulate, Captivate and in many ways Destroy us, the Human Race. Once the facts are stated CLEARLY in this matter (Incl. the Fact that Homo Sapien / Wise Human is a CHOICE, not a Birthright) then we, the Human Race can unite under the One Law of the Human Race - ''DO WHAT YOU LIKE. DON'T VIOLATE ANYONE ELSE. YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS START AN STOP WITH YOU.'' Cheers. - Dave from Australia. Proud Racist Member of the Human Race.
I’d like to hear more Christian leaders be this honest. They sweep all the dirt under the rug and pretend it’s not there rather than confront it and help their congregations confront it and deal with it.
Thank you!
“That one room” though 😲 #PREACH
definitely- I left the church ( not my faith but the church) a while ago because I was so upset at how the church was treating other people and handling these issues and I started attending church again when I found a pastor like this who talks about the hard stuff to hear, is vocal about oppression and is honest about his own struggles. It could change a lot of people if pastors were more like this.
Hill song leaders are false teachers and teaching unbiblical things
Thandi Kirk like what may I ask... 😂
“The most segregated hour in American life is high noon on Sunday” -Malcolm X
That was actually MLK JR who said that. 1963 Though Many of his time acknowledged that fact
@@p0rnany0ne Malcolm even said the ( i have a dream ) verse and martin took it. Cool fact
The fact that you were able to be open about being Christian, it lifted me up man. Greatly appreciate it🙏🏾
@a k how so?
Eeeh.....why wouldnt an American feel like they can be open about that? They are the religious ultra-majority.
“Blessed are the peacemakers. You have to go find war .You gotta find trouble in order to make peace!” Word!!!!
I loved that a lot. I think that's one of the scriptures that some people take out of context. When I read that scripture it doesn't say " blessed are the peacekeepers". It says, " blessed are the peacemakers".
Best words!
I disagree about "actively finding trouble" in order to "impose peace". There's a lot of scripture against exactly that. Anyone reading this should pause and think about what they are getting into before actively "finding trouble"
George my friend you are saying everything and nothing with this sentence of yours. Give us real context to your disagreement instead of disagreeing for the sake of it. We are talking of real issues, racism, discrimination etc what kind of encounter can you have when you deal with racists if not “troublesome”?! Have you seen what happens in US when people were peacefully protesting? If you have an alternative way please do share with us because the whole world needs it! Thank you 🙏🏽
@@TheJohnsKitchen Being a peacemaker does not mean you are to actively "go out and find war". Blessed are the peacemakers - Those who strive to prevent contention and strife who not only turn their cheek at offense but use their influence to reconcile opposing parties to prevent hostilities - whether in school, church, work or in the home. Every person may do something of this without actively seeking to find it. There ought not to be unlawful or unnecessary interference in that which is none of our business; but without any danger of acquiring a meddlesome attitude, every person has many opportunities of reconciling opposing parties in a peaceable manner. The Lord is "merciful and gracious, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin". (Ex 34:6) We are called blessed children of the Lord when we do the same, when we forgive and act in accordance with how God treats us. This is what it means to be a peacemaker.
D-E-N-I-A-L Don’t Even Know I Am Lying. That hit different 😳🤯
Same.
Dekial
@@danielemuna9900 Denial and Daniel are spelled w the same letters
I missed this connection. What am I lying about??
That hit me too.
I love that they are having this conversation! My family has been praying about this issue. The honesty is so refreshing. It doesn't make you a bad person/Christian to acknowledge that you may be a racist. I gives you a chance to grow in love.
Learn about the history of the Doctrine of Discovery which was declared by Christians. That was the beginning of white supremacy and racism: kzhead.info/sun/gZeok5xsmH55YIk/bejne.html
@Pet Langley It doesn't make you a bad person if you dont know which many have no idea. There is a beauty in finding things out about yourself and accepting and moving forward. What makes you a good or bad person is what you do once you know these things about yourself.
as someone who has distanced myself from church because i’m a bisexual black woman & didn’t feel comfortable in those spaces- i thank you for uploading this conversation. it gives me hope that i can bridge that gap in the future.
Bisexual and/or gay comes down to holding your feelings/attractions higher than what Gods standard is. Which in essence your sexuality becomes your “God.” I pray for your heart and understanding. This message was not at all meant to attack but to give truth
@@julescormier5793 seriously just shut up
We would welcome you to our church. I have lived many different states and I had to search for the church that I felt the Holy Spirit at. Please don't give up on active Christians. We do existence.
15:23 “Even if I’m wrong, my wrong is better than your wrong.” That was so powerful oml
That's such an important thought and I'm happy he said that! There are so many issues in the world this applies to. It is important to know when you are wrong, but it's not always possible to know this until it is too late. But that doesn't mean you can't try your best for avoiding collateral damage until you know the truth.
How so? Are you aware it's 2020? It is not the 1960's we are more/less living MLK's dream. Is it perfect? What is? Sure, there's plenty of scars from the past whose scabs are taking their sweet time to disappear from, but that's mostly and almost completely cultural and class issues. Complicated cultural issues that warp and twist what is actually happening, via misunderstandings. Along with unfortunate class issues brought on by corruption and rot of a majority of our elected officials. It's why Trump is so popular btw, b/c he's not a lifetime politician and seems to actually want to stand up for the American people. My point is, Oprah, Obama, Trevor Noah, any number of sports players, Dave Chappelle, and various other black people exist. This has nothing to do with race/skin color, but everything to do with culture and wealth. Also I'd much rather live my life treating everyone who I do not know the same, which is with base respect and caution.
True, so true! I also try to ask myself in every decision what will happen in both (or all) possible ways if I have been wrong and then I decide which wrong choice I can better live with.
@@WatchMeShadow1 Some black people are Successful and Thus, racism isn't an Issue?? 🙄🙄 Please, name all the Black CEO's of Fortune 500 Companies? Black billionaires? Black Presidents?? Oh, 0.5 out of 45 😩🙄🙄 Black Media company Owners?!. Black Families with Generations and Generations of *Wealth and Influence* ??! I'll wait.
@@luckyjasonfan You act like someone gets to just walk into that job.... But here you go: Marvin Ellison at home-improvement retailer Lowe's (No. 44), Kenneth Frazier at pharmaceuticals maker Merck (No. 69), Roger Ferguson at financial services company TIAA (No. 81), René Jones at M&T Bank (No. 438) and Jide Zeitlin at Tapestry (No. 485), who became CEO of the company that owns Coach and Kate Spade in September. The only black woman to ever helm a Fortune 500 CEO was Xerox's Ursula Burns, who stepped down in 2016. (Last year, after the 2019 list was published, Mary Winston served as interim CEO of Bed Bath & Beyond for several months.) That means that black CEOs make up a tiny fraction-just 1%-of the Fortune 500 despite African-Americans representing 13.4% of the U.S. population, according to the most recent government estimates. In all there have only been 18 black CEOs on the Fortune 500 lists since 1999. The peak was six in 2012. If your goal is to become a CEO of a Fortune 500 company, then you will need an outstanding resume or CV, the appropriate educational background, BA and an MBA and the zeal to work harder than your competitors. Becoming the CEO of a Fortune 500 company is possible-though not easy. Here are the gradual steps involved. There are basically two paths you can go down to become a CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Both are obscenely difficult but there is one incredible upside… Both paths are very specific and obvious. You just have to think through the paths. Option number one, you can go down he corporate route and climb the ladder. Depending on your skill set, you’ll have slightly different paths, but I think there are a couple different things that can make it easier for you. First, you should align your skills with what will make it easier to hire/promote you, but also be delivering maximum value for the company. Here is what I mean… Second, you need to be willing to change jobs to move up faster. This is an important lesson and best described in Scott Adam’s book How To Fail At Everything And Still Succeed. If you want to make it to the Fortune 500 CEO type role, you have to be willing to move companies every year or two and keep working your way up the ladder until you are at least at the VP level. That tip alone can save you decades of slaving away at a single company only to never crack middle management. So, those are the principles, the actual path then becomes one of building your value, getting promoted, changing companies, and continually working upward until you are at the top tier of management. Then, it becomes a bit of luck… When you get to the top 50 or fewer managers, you are with a high performing peer group. Winning the CEO sweepstakes is going to be a game of politicking and luck to a large extent. So, one way to end up a Fortune 500 CEO is to shortcut the waiting on the existing CEO to quit game, and taking the CEO role at a lesser company so that you have CEO experience. Simply being a CEO of an existing successful company makes you look like a more capable CEO candidate, and many companies would rather bring in someone who has already been a CEO because that looks less risky. Option number two, you could build your own company from the ground up and have it end up being on the Fortune 500 list. This is an equally difficult task and requires as much luck as it does effort, but it is possible. Building a company from nothing to Fortune 500 is a lifetime of work. Perhaps several lifetimes of work. You have to have the right skills, the right people, the right product, the right market, the right timing. There are only a handful of business opportunities that will get you to Fortune 500 level.
Oh my gosh I can’t even begin to tell you what this conversation meant to me! I’m shaking and bawling but in good ways and I’m trying to settle a bit before I comment further so I’ll be back. But before I go, it needs to be known that I live in a VERY Red & “Christian” county in Central Florida and since the day I watched George Floyd die I knew I was done tolerating and turning a deaf ear to the blatant racism & hate that surrounds me. Ok, I’ll be back. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for this very powerful conversation ❤️✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿
God bless you
I love you heart
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Being open to hearing and learning should be something we all get better at. You are NEVER too old to learn.
These are going to end up being an hour long by the end of 2020. And. I'm. Here. For. It! Thanks Emmanuel. Keep searching for deeper conversations. I want to see this grow.
Say that again!
Good on you. I find this Acho guy slightly arrogant, though.
@@cockeyedoptimista How so?
"I'll just let my house be dirty because it's too much work" Love the house analogy
"Churches might be the biggest propagators of racist ideology in our country." As an atheist, I have to say I genuinely appreciate him being open and honest about this.
I also pray you give your life to Jesus because He loves you so much!!! 🙏🏽💙🙌🏽
@@MsBdoll87 No thanks. This isnt complimentary to atheists/agnostics.
MIGHT is too soft of a word...it IS and has been for a LONG TIME in our countries history.
@@MsBdoll87 would you like being constantly told that there's no god. Yeah atheists also don't like being constantly told even randomly on YT comments that something we don't believe in exist. Respect goes both ways sir!
james harm bigotry maybe but not racism unless a company’s black owner is spewing racial epithets and has a pattern of discriminatory practices against anyone not black / uuuhhh not likely. Remember it’s about power + prejudice
"I don't think I'm a racist man but I love you enough as my brother to go look at it again". Beautiful. Love thy neighbor. If your neighbor says the deck is stacked against me do you say "guess we don't see eye to eye in that one" or do you care enough to ask questions?
That was such a major statement. Thinking you're not perpetuating something, but loving people enough to double check... ♥️
Learn about the history of the Doctrine of Discovery which was declared by Christians. That was the beginning of white supremacy and racism: kzhead.info/sun/gZeok5xsmH55YIk/bejne.html
This video brought me to tears and I prayed for the first time in 5 years. I’m a lapsed Christian turned agnostic because I couldn’t square overwhelming Christian and Evangelical support for DJT. Thank you for this video and all of the rest. One brother to another I see you and hear you and want to learn more and be a better friend and ally.
we don't need churchianty we just need Jesus, read the Bible with your own eyes pray to God. Men will always mislead us & the congregation of the Church. Find it in your heart ! It's there. I'm a born again Christian after years of hate towards the Church, I found God through my pain I found him in his book the Bible, I still don't have a "church" I just have a relationship with God.
About the church's role in racism: "They don't want to fix the problem, they just want to fix the optics of it" daym...
"they are afraid that we will treat them like they treated us" WOW that hit the nail on the head.
He was quoting Farrakhan, it's a great clip of when he was on Donohue talk show.
changetocome100 thank you!! I’ll go look it up.
@@changetocome100 That's right. I posted a few minutes of the show on my Facebook page a few weeks ago. He spoke very clearly and with common sense. People didn't want to hear the truth and/or reality but there it was, take it or leave it.
When Pastor Lentz heard this religious man said this. And do not want to give hid name away! He was talking about Minister Louis Farrakhan because i remember him saying that on Phil Donahue show.
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How can anyone dislike these? They’re so informative and inspiring. Just what we need in timeslike these.
Because truth hurts Unfortunately....
Because they are always one sided arguments. They are racially charged videos. Re watch the video. And swap out "white" everytime he says "black". And put "black" everytime he says "white". Once you can do that. You will see. Not once does he mention that .03 makes up the color of people's skin. Cause he seem to have to emphasize these differences. And the mere concept of white privilege is racist at it's core. one college professor said it once in her book and they've been running with it ever since.
As the title states, it's uncomfortable for some people to hear this.
@@garym3839 it's not an arguement. It's a discussion with someone who knows and someone who does not know
For a lot of people, the fact that racism doesn’t exist, that they themselves are not racist and that they have never contributed to these problems form a part of their identity. Conversations like this, truths like this threaten their identity and that is scary. Lashing out or disliking this video is a form of self defence. This is why I try to reflect on myself when I feel threatened because it’s possible I could be in the wrong.
"How can you Love God and Hate your neighbors?" YOU DON'T! PERIOD! I Still can't understand why a group of people will consider themselves "superior" and oppress others just because of the color of their skin, and I probably never will understand it. Thank you Carl for being honest about it all. May God continue to use you to make great impact and be the light in many dark areas. Thank you so much Emmanuel for this amazing conversations! Believers and unbelievers need to hear the truth about Christ, He is for all people and loves all of us equally and deeply. 🧡Sholz
"The hope of the world is in the individual that cares"
I’ve never understood why Christians don’t call out fake Christians, much like how good cops need to police bad cops
calling out fake Christians is tricky because each Christian is aware that they have sin within them, to point out the speck of dust in your brother's eye, all the while you have a bigger obstruction in your own. The only solution is compassion, love and trying to motivate change through fellowship and love. It is much easier to just blast someone and call em out
Ya, pretty much what Sammy said. As Christians we realize we are not perfect and all struggle in certain areas, so for us to “call out” someone is hard because we are aware we have areas we struggle in as well. Plus, to call someone out and just say “you’re a fake Christian” isn’t really helpful because they’re just going to get defensive and not agree or want to change. So in order to call another Christian out, it’s usually the responsibility of those close to them to sit down and have a conversation with love and compassion and say something along the lines of “I know you love God, I know you are striving to be more like Jesus and I see that in these areas. But I see that this may be an area you are struggling in and I want to come along side you and help you with this. Sometimes I see you do this and it grieves my heart and I want to help you be a better version of yourself in the same way that I know you want to help me.” The biggest thing is people get defensive and don’t want to be told they’re failing in areas or have different views and aren’t willing to change them. So it’s important that if you’re going to have that conversation it has to be in a way that may actually change their point of view or make them want to change. But I do agree that more Christians need to have these discussions with other Christians.
That's known as the No True Scotsman fallacy. Try again.
Brandi Faith And that’s why Christians have been allowed to do unspeakable things and still sit next to people like you at church and call themselves Christians. I’m not a believer personally but I vaguely recall something about all it takes for evil to exist as a good person turning a blind eye or something like that?
It happens all the time. The problem though, it's conservative Christians saying to the mainline church (UCC, Lutheran, Methodist, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, etc.) you're not the right kind of Christian because you accept a gay member, say that the Bible isn't literally and scientifically factual, or vote Democrat.
I’m listening, I’m learning and my perspective has changed. I want to be part of the solution. Thank you Immanuel!
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As a Black woman, I want to Say, Thank you!! 🙏❤ My best friend of over 20 years, will Not listen and she REFUSES to _Acknowledge_ any Racial injustice, of Any kind!! 😩😭 Since, George Floyd, Ahmed Arbery, Breonna Taylor... (Tamir Rice, Philando Castille, Eric Garner, Mike Brown, Atianna Jefferson etc etc) I just Can't take it anymore!!! Her ignorant perspective really Hurts me!!
I have also learned I need to listen. So I’m listening and learning also. I want to be part of the change that needs to happen.
One of the best comments I've ever seen on social media
♥️ Thank you! That's all we've been asking for.
I really, as someone with auditory processing issues, need to say huge thank you for captions on this. It helps me better understand what’s being said.
Thank you for your continuous love and support.
@@emmanuelachochinedum2141 Why don't you have a real conversation with a someone who disagrees with you like a Larry elder or a Ben Shapiro instead of people kissing your ass I thought your show was called uncomfortable conversations it's not uncomfortable when the people you are talking too agree with you.
This brother just won a friend. This is the best convo I heard on this topic in a long time. I appreciate the honest and authentic responses. I would love to talk to more people in this way. Right or wrong, let's talk. This was beautiful. Thank you!
Wow!!! If Jesus was walking the earth today - he’d be with the hurting people. TRUTH & REALITY
If Jesus would walk the earth today, he would have been imprisoned or trapped in a refugee camp... It must be so painful for true Christians to see politicians making laws to oppress people while waving with a bible and stating they are just protecting the way of life "god intended". :/
I totally agree 💯!
@Giovanni DeBravo The existence of Jesus is a historical fact. Now whether you choose to believe he is who people say he is is your own prerogative.
@Giovanni DeBravo wrong, he is an actual historical figure, people don't question if Jesus actually existed, it's more that they question is he is God or not...
Giovanni DeBravo. You think so? I pity you.
I was raised Christian and I didn’t like a lot of the sexism, racism, and closed mindedness I saw. I really like seeing this.
Star Parker would be a good person to get information about race & religion. Or a black man, women, or family currently attending church that is predominantly white. If we truly want to be educated we need to hear different opinions.
As an African I have always wondered how some white people claim to be Christians yet they are so racist. My parents once went to a Presbyterian church in DC. In my country we attend the Presbyterian church so when they learnt there is a Presbyterian church they were excited to go. As soon as they walked in they noted the church had only white people and they got funny looks. They left the church and found another African American Presbyterian church where they felt so at home. I have never fathomed how white people claim to be Christians and they are so hateful.
@@LolaBugzy85 if white people attended an all black church, do you think they would also get funny looks and feels uncomfortable?
M- K You are right. All churches should welcome all people with open arms. I was raised not to be racist by my parents who were different races, but I worry if I may stare at someone different, just noticing, or out of curiosity. Not being racist & not having racism put on me I tend to assume the best of people (I guess that would be considered rose colored glasses). My daughter looks totally different than the rest of us, people will look 👀. I tell her people are just curious wondering if we adopted you. I’ve gone to churches that are predominantly white and have a very very small sprinkling of black people who some were my friends. When we were in small group race never came up. Only if I brought it up privately did he talk about it. He did not mention our church (thank goodness) In our parts he said he was pulled over too many times for not a good reason. All churches unfortunately are not good at welcoming newcomers. It is not easy for some people to get out of their comfy group & be uncomfortable & welcome someone new. My old church had a welcoming committee & they were spread out all over the church looking for new people to get plugged in so they felt at home. & one of those was my black friend who got me plugged in to a predominately white church. 😂 I am not black, a mixed race, but look more or less white, I guess. My family has gone to churches who need to work on their welcoming. That should be one of the top priorities of a church. But it is hard to make generalizations over all churches. Sorry to ramble. Take care.❤️
@tyler but historically, black people have been shunned in predominantly white spaces. Black people have been more open to white people so that’s an unfair comparison. Racism is world wide so to try to flip the script & try to play devil’s advocate is unnecessary.
Acho, you are doing such great work that I just sit in awe throughout every minute of each episode. You're DOING and ASKING and SAYING what needs to be said or questioned in such a clear-cut, direct manner. I find myself saying, "only a fool would attempt to cancel a man who is speaking truth, and not only that: they would fail." Truth is uncancellable. Thank you for helping to change the world.
This conversation had me on the edge of tears the whole time because I've waited my whole adult life to hear a pastor speak like this. I literally left the church & am no longer a Christian because of the racism & homophobia in the church & in the Christians around me. I was a new Christian & couldn't square who Jesus was with who/how Christians around me were/are. I now have hope that there are pastors (and fathers) like you. I love that this channel exists & I have learned so much. Thank you both.
THIS SHOW NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST AN HOUR LONG... IF NOT LONGER!!! ⏰
Check out the conversation Carl had with other pastors about these issues. It was great. It opened my eyes to a lot of things I didn't even know. kzhead.info/sun/q7CtZ86agZSLkmg/bejne.html
No it can't be more than what it is. It's great from the aspect people don't have to see it as a movie, or documentary, or biography because those come with connotations. I love this because this is just handled as a conversation which just fits. I think it would be great if someone picked up to have the conversation from opposite sides.
@@Slippery26Samm well I think more people are agreeing with me. This segment is too short. It's over before it even begins and it's too short to be a conversation. 🤦🏾♀️
Maybe a couple of options. Some people won’t even click if it’s long. But perhaps the short version and then the “directors cut” longer more in depth? It may be a lot to ask of Mr. Acho and guest(s), but they will know what’s possible for them.
@@b4real2me I agree with you. They could always break it down in to 3 or 4 segments. KZhead's algorithm seems to favor videos 10 to 20 minutes long.
"There are people who genuinely want to be a part of the problem, or people who are genuinely upset they got caught. They don't want to fix the problem, they want to fix the optics of the problem." I've experienced this personally, like many, many, many other minorities. I have never heard a white person vocalize it. I don't think Carl Lentz realizes how meaningful it is to hear him say that.
nicole lawrence thats the one that hit me! “They just want to fix the optics” real talk
So you want white folk to come up to you and tell you they aren’t racist? Wouldn’t you just want them to treat you with respect?
@@marcusj1167 wouldn't that be the same thing? Just curious and please enlightened me. Thanks
This was such an important, fierce conversation. Pastor Carl's words were healing, and his ability to begin by framing his analysis with structural Racism and evangelical Christian church's silence, helped me so much!! Bravo Emmanuel and Pastor Carl. I am so grateful for the honesty and both of you all leaning into the necessary discomfort to have this 'life-giving' conversation!!
I would worship and serve in this white pastor's church in a heartbeat! So honest and real! He took the more difficult path and I believe God will reward him for that. I left the church we served in and attended for 7 years. We no longer have a church home but hearing pastors speak this honestly and freely gives me hope that we will find one that won't compromise and carry my burden with me rather than tell me to lay mine down so I can help them carry theirs.
Uh, let's not treat racism the way America treats Covid. In my state, the response to Covid by a heck ton of people is that "it doesn't exist" and "it affects this group of people I'm not in, so it's not my problem, let me go back to 'normal'."
I was thinking the same thing. I hope we take racism more seriously than a lot of people are taking COVID.
Yeah...that analogy was good on the face...maybe if he'd said "like South Korea or Ireland or New Zealand"...but it didn't fly. Only weak point, though.
Goes to show that there’s an underlying issue that makes people stick their heads in the sand when faced with a problem that makes them feel uncomfortable and overwhelmed.
Haha, Carl Lentz lives in nyc where people actually did take covid seriously
I think this might have been filmed before COVID exploded in many states. But I can imagine how they treated COVID effectively in other countries and understand the analogy.
Thank you for creating this! The way you've articulated your experiences has helped me to better share my own with my family and friends who are not black. It's tough to explain years of struggles and norms into a few digestible sentences and you do it every week. ❤️
Some people are intimidated by these conversations. They get offended because if this is truth, then they will have to change! Give this a day and come back and read the later comments. There will be people posting and making accusations and getting totally offended. I was blown away by some of the comments last week. As a matter of fact, one dude called me a Karen, because I posted in support of Mr. Acho and what he said. :o I simply explained to him that Karen was my niece and a beautiful human being that I would be proud to wear her name! I don't think that was the response he wanted!
@@RiverWoods111 oh Karen good to see you again. Virtue signalling. Tell people how woke you are 😂😂 😂😂😂 😂😂 😂. Man oh man thanks for the laughter Everytime. Let me guess you still think all white people have these "exclusive privileges". The reason I called you Karen is cause just spewing out all the liberal non sense. It's like you copied and pasted CNN word for word. Love how you put everyone into these nice neat little boxes. The concept of white privilege absolutely is racist. Saying people have privileges cause the color of there skin and not the content of the character is wrong. The end Karen. Look up the definition of Karen. And you will see exactly what I meant. Oh and I forgot to re comment on that post cause I have this thing called a job. But thank you for this opportunity to break that down for you. Karen don't worry, as your equal I will call you out every single time. That's my duty as your fellow America 💪. Have a great night/day Karen. LMFAO 😂😂 😂😂 😂😂 😂.
Also Tavea is such a badass name!!!!! I have never seen it. I'm stealing your name if i have a girl! That is so legit! Your parent have a unmatched skills in name picking. I bow to there greatness. Also remember people are assholes. You decided how you want to be treated and how to carry yourself. To much blood has been spilt for you feel that way. You are the writer of your own life and destiny. You can do anything you want to. Haters are going to hate! Your character is how you rise above all the crap! Lay claim your birthright! Now go out there and forge a new empire in your name! Tavea Alex sound like a badass brand name to me 😉💪!
@@garym3839 Yeah! I offended you again, and as I said before Karen is a beautiful woman who has lived through hell of a War killing her husband and the daddy to her kids. She is a hero in my mind, so go ahead and call me Karen! Calling people names because of their political beliefs doesn't make you sound very mature or woke! Although I love the fact that you chose a name of such a beautiful woman to try to insult me with. Honestly, name calling is a little immature, and while we are on the subject of immature why are you hanging out on a liberals KZhead Channel if you despise everything he has to say. Move along if you are not open minded enough to learn from others.
@@RiverWoods111 because it is my obligation as your fellow American to point out bullshit. Because this person is nothing more but another oppressor. Trying to tell my other fellow Americans that they can't make it because of the color of their skin. He seems to want to paint everything and really broad strokes. He admits that he is nervous around white people. Just because of the color of their skin. That is prejudiced. If you really listen to the words that he says. You can really hear it. But you're not looking for it. Re-watch some of those videos and try to find it. Cause I'm not looking at him as a "black man". I'm looking at him as an American man. So I'm listening to him way differently then you. I hear him as an equal. The things he says are underlining racist or blatantly racist. So I'm calling him out as an equal. I don't have an ounce of white guilt, cause I'm not racist. I judge him by his words and actions. And I reserve that right. He even said that he only brings on people that agree with him. That's not an uncomfortable conversation that's a narrative. Plain and simple.
Thank you so much for everything you do. It never ceases to amaze me what I learn every time I tune in to your conversations. I appreciate you and what you are doing. I tell everyone I know to tune in and learn what truly might be in their hearts.
Wow. That was powerful. It put into words what I’ve been feeling as a non-white believer in the predominantly white church. It resonated, especially the feeling of not fitting in, not belonging. Thank you. I look forward to more ‘uncomfortable conversations with a black man.’
I relate to you so much here A. Kan. I was a member of a small (white) fundamental Baptist Church in a small town in TX for over 4 years. I have never loved, and yet felt so lonely, in a church before. I would love going and hearing the word and singing in the choir, but I would get so uncomfortable sometimes and stop going for a few weeks or even months. The pastor finally showed his true heart one day and let me know how he viewed my then 12 year old son and I could no longer make excuses for the discomfort I felt going there. I grew up in the Baptist church, but I never truly felt like I belonged or like I was truly welcomed.
@@candiceturner6648 I went to a predominately white church over 20 years. I stopped going because when Trump won, people started acting kind of racist towards me because I didn't vote for Trump. Matter of fact I thought Trump was a little crazy. I felt lonely at times, but I really didn't care if I was invited to anyone's house. It only happened when it was church related. I would visit Black churches at times. I still love a lot of the people. Its bad when politics dominate in a church. God is not first there, then sin enters in.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! This really touched my heart! I have been struggling with this at my current home church in Murfreesboro, World Outreach Church of Christ. I love God and I truly enjoy church but going to a church with a preacher who has yet to speak one word on the oppression of African Americans has really hurt my soul and has had me wanting to search for a different place of worship. I've always loved the idea of going to a diverse church but I want to feel like I belong at the same time. I would love it if more preachers would open up their hearts on this topic. BLM is not a political topic...its a human decency topic and something that every true Christian should be passionate and upset about regardless of the color of their skin. Great video once again! 😊❤🙏🏾
As a fellow sister in Christ, I encourage you to lovingly confront your pastor about this. We are all growing in our faith - even pastors.
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Do you think it my be possible that your pastor doesn't believe that black people are oppressed in the US? Is it not a given that we are called to love all people? What do you want him to say that will make you feel better? Are you oppressed? If so, why?
This was so beautifully said. I truly believe that we have made a terrible mistake in letting so many issues in this country be co-opted as 'political' that are moral and ethical at their root, or questions of 'human decency,' as you say. We'll have to break free of that to make true progress. I wish you the very best in finding a spiritual home - I believe you'll find the place you're meant to be. Thank you so much for this comment.
How about Gods Heaven being Segregated to Christians only? The rest to be dumped into Hell? Are you ok with religious segregation?
"The hope of the world is the individual who cares..." is a great statement!
Here is another type of uncomfortable conversations with a black man. Shocking 🤯kzhead.info/sun/Z7WYaa6OfXl9iY0/bejne.html It would probably be better without the commentator & just letting them talk. Maybe I can find that. Shortened version no commentator 👉kzhead.info/sun/pLubmLOihF-Bea8/bejne.html
History is replete with peoples who care and yet have caused even greater problem stalin cared for Russia, you cound say he hoped for a better Russia, he filled th Ed gulag with the masses to achieve it. We need more than corney sentiment ! Everyone just trying to make themselves feel better.
Richard Hernandez There are people who truly care. “Everyone” is a big word.
The only hope for the world now, or ever is through Jesus Christ! The only way!!
Amen another false preacher who is catering to the world. Carl dosent even know who Jesus is
I was brought here by Emmanuel's interview on the podcast "Unlocking Us with Brene Brown". It's very much worth a listen to hear Emmanuel talk more at length.
Thank you for this particular conversation. I have always said Sunday mornings were the most segregated times across America. The comment on trust makes perfect sense, and I appreciate Pastor Lentz, for speaking honestly about what he has and has not done as a Pastor to begin the process of change within himself and his congregation around the issues of Race and Racism.
I loved it!!! I was raised in the church and quite often I would hear things from the worshipers that wasn't right. I pray this brings attention to this country. Thank you both very much for the conversation and opportunity to join.
This episode is truly important for all to see💯... And I loved when Emmanuel said: DENIAL... Don't..Even..Know..Iam..Lying... Yes Sir gave me chills❤✌
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." Edward Gibbon
Wow great quote
The wise see God as truth
I love what he said about if I’m wrong about white privilege vs if you are wrong! I’m going to use that in future conversations! I’m loving this show. As a white woman living in the south, I’m trying every day to learn more and do better. You are a huge help in that.
Uncomfortable conversations can lead to growth. My eyes and ears continue to open wider on the societal lies we white people have bought and held on to for way too damn long.
Thank You Michael, we all need to have these conversations with our friends.. I love my white friends but I probably will loose some because they won't admit there is a problem...
@@charlenecartermorrison9116 Yeah I don't get white people not willing to at least have the conversation. There is definitely a problem. Some will say things like "race is a made up construct" to avoid having to address the systems in place are biased and race-based at the core.
Michael Mann Thank you Michael for listening! Thank you for being here and allowing yourself to embark on this, sometimes, uncomfortable journey!
I wish more people had an open mind and open heart like you. ❤️
In the 21st century the top religions are Communist/Corrupt and openly promote Nazi ideas - yet even the brightest of minds can't see this
I think a lot of people that call themselves Christian, are going to be surprised at the end.
What do you mean by that
Destiny Enyinda there’s a lot of Christians that think they are holier than thou... and are so puffed up spiritually... but have no love for others... no sense of social justice... I do not say where they will end up... but I think they will be surprised nonetheless... I don’t think it’s going to look like what they think it will... and if it’s heaven... I think people will be there that they didn’t expect; that they treated so badly... and that Jesus would have actually rather hung out with, on this earth, than them
SimplyKara lots of progressives swear their inclusive until you disagree with them. I bet your no different
@@marcusj1167 I'm willing to listen to others with different perspectives and welcome them. However I will not put up with people who go out of their way to hate on others, and do not want room for dialogue and are not also willing to listen, nor try to understand.
SimplyKara you just contradicted yourself. Your willing to listen but not to people you deem to be hateful.
I'm a 29 year old male... and this shook me. I was raised catholic in a very urban community.. I now have 2 beautiful little lives i raise and I ever once believed I can do better for them in teaching them how to be better... but this video has shown me. If I take the journey with them. We both we all can be better than my past. Thank you.
I'm coming late to the party, but these are soooo good! This one in particular! I'm part of a Christian group trying to have these conversations and coming up with the same issues as Carl Lentz describes. This is such an inspiration. Thank you so much!
Oh shit....I am literally sitting in suburban Tulsa right now and this conversation was already hitting hard. Damn.
Josh Hixson soy boy
@Deplorable Centrist he's antifa all the way.
I love this, I’d love seeing an episode about the rift that was forced between the medical and the black community. The way that medicine and science was used to enforce racism and I’d love hearing how we can break down how medicine propagates racism and how we can fix it.
This would be a very good topic. As a medical professional, I see racism day in and day out. Racism is so deep; fixing it is like trying to alter ones dna.
These are some of the most eye opening, real, educating conversations I have ever had the pleasure of watching! Thank You!
This is absolutely the most powerful conversation, I think you’ve had yet. So much realization so much awareness..... my wrong is better than yours.... yesss
This was an amazing episode. Pastor Carl Lentz was great and truly authentic.. He was truthfully speaking when he said they are concerned with the OPTICS.
If people worried more about what God said in his word than optics, our world would be so different right now.
@@adaorie5913 well said
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So many people need to hear this. I wish my church could benefit from speakers like these men. My church always talks about acceptance and fighting against racism, but there is still an overwhelming majority of white people. I've always wondered about how to help fix this, but I'm not really sure how.
Stop going to church. That's definitely one way to fix it.
The problem isn't that there are so many white people in your church. Just be sure to seek ways to help your church interact and fellowship with other groups in meaningful ways.
Start inviting your black friends to join you 🙂
a truly diverse church, has to encourage and welcome diverse members, and has to involve them in planning, decisions, worship, staff members, etc. Can you imagine how challenging to visit a church that's 98% white, if you're a POC ?
This makes so much sense. So much here in.... Love this conversation. Thank you gentlemen! (Love the whole series Emmanuel!) I love my 3 children equally. How could I be happy if one of them treated one of the others as if they were less precious than they were. Love and grace extends to each equally, but there would be something not right if their attitude was not challenged... On board and on this journey, looking to spot and challenge any inequality in my attitudes or behaviours. Thanks again!👍🏼👍🏿👍🏽
I absolutely loved this conversation, and gotta say i had lost any care or want to hear or be a part of any religious anything expecially Christianity from years of terrible experiences so many and each and (almost) all giving me that gut feeling which has always served me well throughout life to go away from, the feeling of something not being true or safe or right. This conversation the way that Carl Lentz speaks and explains things reminds me that there is and can be good within it, and reminds me to keep in mind that as great as we humans are we can make things bad too often. Im not gonna become religous or flip the way i believe and live or anything like that..lol but it def reminds me to see and respect the good examples of it being the Great Carl Lentz, it would be an honor actually to shake his hand and tell him thank you for expressing things in such a way as this here, and with out due a very big thanks and much love to Emmanuel Acho as well. Keep these coming buddy.
I am no longer a Christian/ religious but this man makes me want to get back into it for social reasons. Everyone needs a gut check from time to time, preferably weekly.
Social Christianity is an utter perversion of Christ's teachings.
@@comicsans1689 Elaborate. What is social Christianity?
"If I don't help the oppressed what will happen to them?"
so deep and powerful
I understand the point he was making by saying this, but I am also starting to realize that, being among the marginalized himself, the Good Samaritan didn't have to contend with the complications of a lighter skinned man "saving" his darker skinned brother from his oppression, since the wounded man was among those who oppressed Samaritans. So I have been trying to reframe the question: "If I don't help the oppressed, what will happen to ME?" The sad state of white churches in America is what has happened to us and will continue to happen to us -- segregation, hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy. We cut ourselves off from experiencing the grace of God, and even run the risk that when we meet Jesus face to face, he will say, "You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me." - Matthew 25:41-43 I'm trying to see it less as me "helping" the oppressed and more as me ceasing to be part of the oppression and redressing the injustices systemically perpetrated against them in our society. Oppressed people are actually helping us to be better followers of Jesus, finally trying to make relationships right with our fellow humans regardless of their skin color or ethnicity.
@@botanu You just described the law of sowing and reaping. If more people understood this, maybe we'd have a chance at good changes.
I love this show. It's like discovering a new favorite food. I love listening, and the more I hear the better I like it. I am learning soooo much. And am pleasantly surprised the more I watch.
I'm very sad that Rev. Lentz did not walk his talk. I hope he and his wife and kids find peace.
Wait what happened
@@onegoalqj8391 he was kicked out of the church for cheating on his wife among other things I think. crazy
@@onegoalqj8391 he wasn't kicked out, he stepped down (he could still go to church there, he just wouldn't be teaching/a pastor). But the church did say that what he did was wrong.
So because he sinned means that he can't speak the truth? Their not talking about marriage
Nothing but applause. Truly one of the best episodes so far.
I really needed this today. I needed something to hold on to that there's hope for us as human beings. This was the most powerful episode yet. Thank you to both of you.
Brother I am crying listening to this Episode! Very powerful!!!!
So very educational - this should be in all schools. I am a 71 year old white women and would have said I was never a racist. But these conversations have made me cry (but in a good way). By not understanding how sometimes words can be racist - when one thinks they are not - example - "color blind" - every time I watch a segment I learn how I can be better. Thank you Emmanuel.
Thank you sir for these conversations. Each one opens my eyes, brings tears to my eyes, and hopefully opens my heart to move me to change.
This content continues to amaze me. Never thought I’d see a day where this kind of education and open conversations would be a reality. YESSSSSSS.
Such a powerful dialogue but sadly if I repost many won’t hear it because of the person sitting across from EMMANUEL And the very public sin he was recently involved in. Please EMMANUEL have another convo with another white pastor about these real and important issues. This is what breaks my heart the most, the refusal of so many who call themselves Christians to believe these issues are true snd that change needs to happen. Thank you for your amazing book which was my favorite Christmas gift and for these convos!!
I randomly found your videos today...absolutely LOVE the concept and the conversations being had. You are so incredibly articulate and I've learnt so much already. Keep up the good work King.
Hello Emmanuel, I saw you on CNN this morning. I love what I heard, took a screen shot and Googleed you and came across your KZhead videos which I'm going to watch every last one. I love this conversation between you and Carl. Carl I appreciate your honesty.
Change has to start in YOUR heart 🥰
These (un)Comfortable Conversations are amazing. Please keep them coming.🤗
Best one!!! Great convo and the answers with exchange of thoughts was EVERYTHING
That “cleaning house” analogy is fantastic. So accurate. I’ll be using that!
You gotta stop with these!!!! I get all excited thinking it's a new video and then it's just a notification that I have to wait. I mean really. Well at least I know what I'll watch tomorrow with my coffee. In all honesty, thank you for these, they are amazing.
This was super interesting to listen to. Carl was a great guest speaker and I think he belted some very thoughtful comments! I hope you keep doing these.
Great! Thanks for having Carl Lentz with you! Be blessed! I really like your Conversations - go on!!!
Another powerful conversation, thank you. I noticed less background music used in this conversation than the previous once. It made it easier to focus on the message. Thank you 🙏
Fantastic episode. If Jesus were alive today He would be getting up to "good trouble". If we follow Him, we should be too.
Jesus is alive today! 🙌🏽
YES!!!!
Allow the Holy Spirit to lead and guide you! Jesus sent the Comforter 🙌🏾
Hey.... I see how you did a Shout Out to John Lewis! Thank you
No. Jesus did create good "trouble" but not the kind you mean. He and his Father actually had/have a plan for forgiveness and redemption and real reconcilation, not the endless stream of one-sided accusations, and humanistic false righteousness and false guilt that is on parade today in this wicked movement.
Powerful conversation. I pray this movement becomes the ocean of change that needs to be. Well done. 🇨🇦
This was a surprisingly candid conversation. I wasn't expecting the pastor's answers to be so direct. S/o to him! Love the way he broke it down
So grateful for this series that is opening the eyes of many, and helping those of us who are actively seeking to change ourselves
GREAT EPISODE ..KEEP THEM COMING. sent it to a few ppl I know...Pastors etc
I've thought about this since watching the 2nd episode and again after every episode since. What would happen if I introduced this to my all-white southern Methodist small group at church? After this episode I now ask: what will happen if I don't bring it to our group and ask these same questions? Or better yet can I make this a study of its own within our church and make change happen? TY
Good luck and I believe in you!
Clell Britt I think you should I can’t give you advise on how to go about doing that but I wish you the best of luck
Check out Be the bridge. They have small group studies on racial reconciliation
I will not wish you luck, but will say, let the Most High guide you in this.
I would second the recommendation of the study book “be the bridge” and the book “Compassion & Conviction” by Justin Giboney as another good option.
This whole channel is NEEDED......
I have just started following you from the UK. I think this is one of my favourite videos of yours so far. So enlightening and educational. Thank you!
Emmanuel I’d love to see a similar conversation with a Rabbi or other Jewish religious leader. The great Jewish sage Hillel said that the point of the entire Torah is to “Love your neighbor as yourself” and the rest is just commentary. So Jewish people forever have always tried to help oppressed people seek justice and equality
“We tell children that race is real but that race doesn’t matter, when the opposite is actually true,” - Anthony Peterson
@Tania Mara this is some strange conspiracy theory bs.
@Nicholas Reiser I don’t understand your comment; please break it down for me.
Thats deep, and so true
I just turned in to this love the platform ..no trick ads in the back ground just a blank space that keeps me focused on your everyword this is a winning show very real
This conversation hurted me so much. Thank you!
This was another fantastic episode! Also if anyone wants to look more into this topic of race vs. religion, The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby is a great book discussing the history of racism within the church
Just like this conversation, that book was so true
Best episode yet! Great job!
I really really enjoyed this episode, it was eye-opening for me. Thank you for informing and teaching us, Emmanuel
Thank you so very very very much for having this.. Have a blessed day
Can’t wait to watch this tomorrow!!!❤️
We need church services to start to look like heaven will. People of all races.
@Nubia: The Black State no such thing as hell. Lmfao maybe his in vahalla? Or maybe he is in some of the 1000 other versions of after life. But Hell is a joke. It's a made up place to control people. George Flyode was a man that didn't deserve to die the way he did. But it's so funny you could even mention such a childish place 😂😂😂 😂. Let me guess you believe in unicorns, dragons, ohhhh wait how about the great juju bee at the bottom of the ocean. No wait how about Greek version? Get out of here troll noob! Go back under the bridge from wince you came. Noob!
how do you know that heaven is even real?
Anyone remembers this song; Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, Red, Yellow, Black and White. I added Brown, when I sang it at bedtime when my kids were little.
lol how about people of ALL beliefs and Atheists as well? we still seem to fall short - the amazing way religion is able to promote division and hate
Here's a novel idea. Heaven will not look like people of different races because everyone will be in spirit where race will be a nonfactor. That's my perspective.
I am so very grateful for these conversations and thank you for bringing faith into this
This was the best one!! Thank you both!!!