The billion dollar nugget: The Microsoft Kin.

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  • My neighbor, an older lady had a kin one until about 2 years ago. She used that phone for over a decade as her daily driver. When it finally started having problems, she came to me and I somehow fixed it. The screen connectors were wore out. And then I had the task of uploading and backing up all of her pictures. 10 years of pictures. You would not believe how many pictures these babies can baby

    @GKHaller@GKHaller Жыл бұрын
    • That could very well be the longest lived KIN out there. I really hope she doesn't let it go in the bin

      @DounutCereal@DounutCereal Жыл бұрын
    • Oh baby, that baby's babying, alright.

      @goeland4585@goeland4585 Жыл бұрын
    • @@greggv8 is that a html reference

      @polandman07@polandman07 Жыл бұрын
    • @@polandman07 Yes, it is.

      @greggv8@greggv8 Жыл бұрын
    • Microsoft shouldve sponsored her

      @randomchannel323@randomchannel323 Жыл бұрын
  • This makes the zune look like a freaking masterpiece in comparison when talking about how bad they failed

    @kennorcott7074@kennorcott7074 Жыл бұрын
    • But what about the Zune Hd?

      @Bronnenheim@Bronnenheim Жыл бұрын
    • @@Bronnenheim oh god what?

      @mkthemc@mkthemc Жыл бұрын
    • Not to mention the Windows 8/10 phones. At least that lasted a good few years haha.

      @Photo0021@Photo0021 Жыл бұрын
    • it does

      @LeytonTheissRacing@LeytonTheissRacing Жыл бұрын
    • Have a zune HD in box if you want to open it

      @shulme89@shulme89 Жыл бұрын
  • I had a friend that loved his Microsoft Kin so much that he made his username "KinLover". Needless to say I don't think he really thought about the implications...

    @schmintendont@schmintendont Жыл бұрын
    • Big Michael Scott energy

      @JohnZombi88@JohnZombi884 ай бұрын
    • doot doo doo-doo

      @insertcheesypunhere@insertcheesypunhere2 ай бұрын
  • You realize the phone is useless when you need a software to connect a Microsoft phone into a Microsoft Windows

    @williamfoster5237@williamfoster5237 Жыл бұрын
    • Back in the day, I had Nokia Lumia 520 on windows phone 8, that was my second smartphone ever and the first one, which I bought myself. I still had windows xp on my pc and was completely happy with it back then (I think it was in 2013). And I had to install windows 7 because In my country the good cellular internet was too expensive for me, and I didn't have a wifi router, so to download apps or anything else I need to use my pc. And drivers for xp were not even a thing for it.

      @yammy3739@yammy3739 Жыл бұрын
    • Like searching m$ troubleshooting when you're internets not work, a complete paradox

      @chillhour6155@chillhour6155 Жыл бұрын
    • @@yammy3739 it's so nostalgic hear you talking about windows xp

      @williamfoster5237@williamfoster5237 Жыл бұрын
    • @@chillhour6155 xD

      @williamfoster5237@williamfoster5237 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@williamfoster5237windows xp was by far my favorite

      @TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou6 ай бұрын
  • I had to sell these. Before it launched, we were invited to a Verizon mini event in a corporate location, where we were shown working Kin phones and told all about them. Afterwards, armed with our new knowledge of the devices, it was then time to try and push them onto perspective customers. Try telling customers to buy a $30 monthly data plan on a device that didn't offer nearly as much internet access as a Blackberry would. No one bought them.

    @TweeterMan287@TweeterMan287 Жыл бұрын
    • Ouch.

      @JohnGardnerAlhadis@JohnGardnerAlhadis Жыл бұрын
    • imagine having your first phone being microsoft kin

      @eddy.h3872@eddy.h3872 Жыл бұрын
    • Off topic but holy cow, I used to watch your videos back when I was like 12 so around 10 years ago, fancy you here after all those years. Now back on topic, I can't even imagine how hard it was to keep a straight face when trying to sell these to people

      @chrisfratz@chrisfratz Жыл бұрын
    • Can you believe no one bought them.

      @magician4058@magician4058 Жыл бұрын
    • I remember our store’s inventory being +2 on these on launch day because of online order returns… You practically had to bribe reps to take a customer anywhere near the Kin display and seeing them avoid it was like watching a beautiful dance. No one wanted to have anything to do with these and it was hilarious

      @helm_108@helm_108 Жыл бұрын
  • The developers probably were like: "This is a social phone! What do the teens use to be social?" - "No idea, probably sms, email and the browser like any corporate user too."

    @lerk.@lerk. Жыл бұрын
    • tbh devs are usually very up to the times, its the corporate ppl and the execs that go *last minute change* and the devs have to adapt to something thy cant adapt to bc its way too late adn they already had a working prototype

      @DEMENTO01@DEMENTO01 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@DEMENTO01 what do you think is more likely? "last minute change, throw out all the social garbage" Or "last minute change, it has to be a social phone for the teens"

      @lerk.@lerk. Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@lerk. From what I know about software dev, it could very easily be either.

      @blakksheep736@blakksheep73622 күн бұрын
  • I worked at a RadioShack here in the USA. I remember when they lunched these things. The carrier required a Additional $50/mo data plan and something like $199 down. Now the funny thing is I remember getting a internal memo the next day after the launch saying “ please send back all your stock of KIN. It has been discontinued “. 😅

    @robertkrutso3217@robertkrutso3217 Жыл бұрын
  • I worked for Verizon when this came out. All I can say is that nobody bought it and they later converted into a "dumb phone' with a keyboard and decent camera. When other stores requested product transfers (of stuff people actually wanted), we would stuff our extra Kin phones in with a note that says, "You've been 'kinned'." True story.

    @mikeleiter@mikeleiter8 ай бұрын
  • I've lost count of the number of times Microsoft has gone "this industry looks like it's gonna take off" and they've been RIGHT, but they've spent hundreds of millions developing (or buying) products to compete, and then just... run them into the ground. I remember your video on the Zune... It always felt like they *could* have managed to compete with apple, if they'd just made better decisions... Windows phones? they want their own ecosystem for apps, they had the greatest headstart because they could have integrated their phones with windows systems... I remember them going "oh video chat's gonna matter", dead right, buying skype and just destroying it. Now they want to buy discord and try again. Just the perennial money pit.

    @Ahdok1@Ahdok1 Жыл бұрын
    • The only time they were successful in the whole "trendmaker" thing was when they bought Minecraft, a game that was already insanely popular And now they are busy running that into the ground

      @MrHack4never@MrHack4never Жыл бұрын
    • I imagine Microsoft has so much capital they can afford for these projects to fail and don't care if they do.

      @EpicB@EpicB Жыл бұрын
    • And even more recently, they are doing the same thing with Minecraft. "Oh look, this game is good,lets make a viciously exploitable reporting system and enforce it with no way of disabling it"

      @AlguienMas@AlguienMas Жыл бұрын
    • Hell they did the same thing with Windows Mixed Reality

      @ringsystemmusic@ringsystemmusic Жыл бұрын
    • A great example is also Zoom. Like, really, why does it exist? You'd think between Microsoft Teams and Skype and their old messenger they could have easily made something like Zoom. But, alas, they were too busy making the window borders round and removing UI adjustments on Windows 11.

      @SilentdragonDe@SilentdragonDe Жыл бұрын
  • Microsoft really has this pattern of wanting to be the big competitor to something, realizing it’s expensive and needs more development, rushing the software and cutting the budget and then wondering why it flopped

    @CallMeVidd@CallMeVidd Жыл бұрын
    • @@donnylakehunt4754 your videos are all worth less than dogshit

      @bt3743@bt3743 Жыл бұрын
    • Yep. If they couldn't understand the need for apps and full social media integration in 2010, when iPhone, Android, and Blackberry were already offering everything... it's like they didn't even bother handing one of these things to anyone in their "target demographic" before releasing it.

      @Milamberinx@Milamberinx Жыл бұрын
    • Welp that's about it summarized

      @theimaginativeweirdo4537@theimaginativeweirdo4537 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah cause Apple have never ever done that with anything like the Apple Televsion, HomeBase, Apple Lisa, Pippin, Newton or System 7... Honest... Ping?

      @razerow3391@razerow3391 Жыл бұрын
    • @@razerow3391 are you just hating on apple in every reply thread lmao

      @miscl_anon@miscl_anon Жыл бұрын
  • *- Makes a "Social Phone." *- Doesn't add social features* Amazing job, Billy.

    @TheFunniBaconMan@TheFunniBaconMan7 ай бұрын
  • I remember having a classmate get a kin and was bragging about how crazy it was. Then seeing him switch to an iphone shortly after and never mentioning it was pretty funny. I was too poor to get one of these and I had a sony ericsson still. (the one that slides up and has a control nub)

    @Cheezus@Cheezus Жыл бұрын
    • W910?

      @sargera1@sargera1 Жыл бұрын
    • There was a similar situation in one of my classes! A girl got the little square kin, and I actually remember thinking it looked really cool. Then like a few weeks later she was rocking her old Nokia flip phone again! Apparently her kin had screen issues right out of the box.

      @caranook@caranook Жыл бұрын
    • Man I remember these days, gf had a crackberry and I had an LG Chocolate little slide box and no desire to use social media, had whiskey and a tiny blonde and was like "nah I'm good". God damn I didn't even text back then.

      @Suiseisexy@Suiseisexy8 ай бұрын
  • “Phones used to be a lot of fun” Mr. Mobile: *senses a disturbance in the force*

    @_Mr.Tuvok_@_Mr.Tuvok_ Жыл бұрын
    • No he’s “when phones were fun”.

      @lawnmowerdude@lawnmowerdude Жыл бұрын
    • lol

      @mrgodspeed@mrgodspeed Жыл бұрын
    • I mean Mr. Mobile covered the first phone on the video already. Imagine a collab with Dankpods...

      @Bane_Amesta@Bane_Amesta Жыл бұрын
    • @@donnylakehunt4754 He's not even black, you bot. :/

      @mrbisshie@mrbisshie Жыл бұрын
    • Star Wars quote... Star Trek Voyager PFP.... This is clearly a higher functioning being! Dank should give him the channel.

      @razerow3391@razerow3391 Жыл бұрын
  • Microsoft has some weird habit of dropping support for expensive products, they should probably address that.

    @maskedrebel9670@maskedrebel9670 Жыл бұрын
    • Shhh, let them finish their adquisition of Activision-Blizzard without reflecting on that. If they do that right (and by "right", I mean "wrong"), we can say good riddance to both Call of Duty and Candy Crush at the same time.

      @theLazyElf@theLazyElf Жыл бұрын
    • @@theLazyElf Microsoft doesn't mess around when it comes to games. On Xbox Series X you can play every generation of Xbox games lol

      @MLGPRO-dx8fg@MLGPRO-dx8fg Жыл бұрын
    • @@MLGPRO-dx8fg Probably the only thing they don't mess around with. Surface Pen has dumb design, Windows 11's functionality was hobbled due to Microsoft chasing aesthetics

      @notlNSIGHT@notlNSIGHT Жыл бұрын
    • @@MLGPRO-dx8fg But OOOH they sure tried. Remember the Kinect?

      @walmorcarvalho2512@walmorcarvalho2512 Жыл бұрын
    • @@walmorcarvalho2512 kinect was great, ahead of its time even, was just over priced, poorly marketed and poorly executed

      @iambenjaminwild@iambenjaminwild Жыл бұрын
  • I still remember making the best choice of my life. I was at the AT&T store and picking out the LG Quantum C900 (Windows Phone) instead of the Kin. I still to this day think that LG was the best phone I’ve ever had.

    @MarekKoshinski@MarekKoshinski Жыл бұрын
    • I had a couple Nokia's. The first one was a 930 or something. It would get hot and drain the battery just playing solitaire. I got the 1030 after that with the 42 megapixels. Thing was great. No lag. Never locked up. Then they cancelled all the apps on windows 8 phones. I was just getting used to it.

      @patrickfitzmichael5940@patrickfitzmichael5940 Жыл бұрын
    • I stuck with the LG Stylo for THREE GENERATIONS and I was devastated when LG decided to stop making phones. Even with a full edge to edge touchscreen and stupid clutzy fingers, I never got so much as a scratch or dent on those things. They could give OG Nokia bricks a run for their money in durability. LG you were one of the few making actually good hardware with minimal bloatware on purchase, why did you do us this way?

      @zekenelsons2069@zekenelsons2069 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@zekenelsons2069 I have lgs last phone the lg velvet 5g it's still really good even if it came out a few yrs ago

      @animeloveer97@animeloveer9711 ай бұрын
  • I briefly worked for the person who ran this team (after it failed) -- I remember this person giving me a lecture that she was also a startup entrepreneur inside of Microsoft -- because she ran a billion dollar startup at Microsoft. 😂. A memory I wont soon forget.

    @rahulxsood@rahulxsood Жыл бұрын
    • so it was a woman that spearheaded this billion dollar failed movement? interesting... nvw yvu see....

      @kiromi790@kiromi790Ай бұрын
  • I've been waiting for this video just to see that "Plastic bags can be dangerous keep away from children" sticker. So glad he's kept it.

    @GaffsNotLaffs@GaffsNotLaffs Жыл бұрын
    • course he kept it, it helps stop the pkcell from rolling away

      @thatone3590@thatone3590 Жыл бұрын
    • @Recommended For You 🅥 I'm looking for a video where you get some bitches

      @offscreen6578@offscreen6578 Жыл бұрын
    • @@thatone3590 aww, sounds like we're gonna get less of "oh, my pkcell..."

      @misteri2908@misteri2908 Жыл бұрын
    • @@misteri2908 They say all good things must come to an end.

      @GaffsNotLaffs@GaffsNotLaffs Жыл бұрын
    • *PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS KEEP* *AWAY FROM CHILDREN* What’s up with that line break, ugh

      @nachiopistachio@nachiopistachio Жыл бұрын
  • When your phone looks like a thermostat, you know you purchased a quality item

    @phillipfry5669@phillipfry5669 Жыл бұрын
    • Gottem

      @waveringeyes8277@waveringeyes8277 Жыл бұрын
    • This killed me ahah

      @ivanquaglio2242@ivanquaglio2242 Жыл бұрын
  • In 2010 I got my first smartphone and I had the choice of getting either a Palm Pixi or a Microsoft Kin. I'm glad my mom convinced me to go with the Pixi. Got me through most of middle school

    @nick0p87@nick0p87 Жыл бұрын
    • I still have my pixi in a box somewhere. It refuses to turn on unfortunately

      @wpww3343@wpww3343 Жыл бұрын
    • they were the palm pre here. they were big at their time. i believe it was the fastest selling phone in sprints history to this day

      @slm1993@slm1993 Жыл бұрын
    • @@slm1993 there are two models, Pre was the bigger one with slide up screen to reveal keyboard (i had several, audio kept breaking and i got several free replacements) and the Pixi was the smaller one with screen above exposed keyboard. The Pixi had hard buttons which were easier to press. I still have a Pixi that turns on works ok on wifi. Palm OS was perfectly usable for social media and had an app store but just couldn't compete with Apple.

      @danwake4431@danwake4431 Жыл бұрын
  • My first phone was the Kin One M, and I LOVED that thing. Having the Zune player to listen to music/watch movies, having an internet browser in my pocket, having a unique little device that no one at school had ever seen or heard of before... It was cool as hell. I still miss that little hockey puck of a phone.

    @plopperson@plopperson Жыл бұрын
    • does the os work decent.they dwarfed the function alot form what i read lomg time ago.almost the brink of a featphone like a 6230

      @sargera1@sargera1 Жыл бұрын
  • Oh my god, I had a Kin One when I was in high school. Everyone who saw it was like "That's a phone?" because it's just a square. I loved it at the time. When I saw this video in my feed, I don't think I ever clicked on a video so fast.

    @TheOrangeDart@TheOrangeDart Жыл бұрын
    • Windows phone wasn't bad, it just had the exact same problem, a tad on the expensive side and no apps...

      @vgamesx1@vgamesx1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@vgamesx1 Exactly. If Microsoft actually gave a shit, Windows Phone would be a genuine competitor in the space and still around now. Hell, I'd fucking switch in a HEARTBEAT

      @notlNSIGHT@notlNSIGHT Жыл бұрын
    • @@notlNSIGHT it was kinda the same thing with the last versions of symbian from nokia, used in n8 etc

      @namesurname4666@namesurname4666 Жыл бұрын
    • @@namesurname4666 it's like the companies love to fuck up

      @notlNSIGHT@notlNSIGHT Жыл бұрын
    • Same I thought my memories of this phone was a fever dream

      @xxRAINA1xx@xxRAINA1xx Жыл бұрын
  • As a new owner of a surface duo, Microsoft got there in the end, it just took a lot of failures like this to get to the point microsoft finally just said, "yea alright we'll use the os that already exists"

    @DiceRobo@DiceRobo Жыл бұрын
    • At least the custom launcher looks good

      @andrewduong2740@andrewduong2740 Жыл бұрын
    • And it STILL has problems with the software. At least according to reviews of Surface Duo I've watched.

      @onee1d1d@onee1d1d Жыл бұрын
    • I really want a Surface Duo but the cost is a bit much lol. Currently using my girlfriend's old Pixel 4 XL.

      @IanC14@IanC14 Жыл бұрын
    • @@onee1d1d The only thing that definitely doesn't work to me is the gesture navigation. I just put it back onto the regular style for android with the three buttons.

      @DiceRobo@DiceRobo Жыл бұрын
    • Surface isn't without it's issues. My Surface Pro 4 can't connect to any USB serial devices, which is frustrating to say the least. I just can't work out how a software giant, with hardware that they controlled, couldn't make it work properly, so when I try to code my arduino I have to run a laptop from 2010 that's so slow the serial monitor bogs the computer down

      @GingerNingerGames@GingerNingerGames Жыл бұрын
  • I had the kin 2 for about 8 months back in the day. I was about 15, but I did like it and this was before I had a smartphone carried an iPod touch with this phone lol. I got an iPhone 4 at the end of that 8 months and never looked back, but it was a time for sure. Nostalgic video for sure man

    @Myriadconsciousness@Myriadconsciousness Жыл бұрын
    • This plus an Ipod touch was perfect. got to keep the super slim IPT and had this little nugget for texting. Worked perfectly fine for texting and taking pictures.

      @mrrooter601@mrrooter6014 ай бұрын
  • I remember when they were released. Even Microsoft knew (before release) that Kin was hopeless. Kin made Zune look great. Sidekick was actually fun before MS bought it and tried to make it “better” 😝 Steve Ballmer’s Microsoft wasted so much money.

    @ken1w@ken1w Жыл бұрын
  • I had a Sidekick when the buyout happened. Someone at Danger sabotaged the server bc MS had a reputation for not hiring on existing staff during takeovers. I lost everything I had on the phone, including the last message I had from my best friend who had died earlier that year.

    @ncc74656m@ncc74656m Жыл бұрын
    • This could be a Hallmark movie

      @ID-nvm@ID-nvm Жыл бұрын
    • @@ID-nvm No because this story is actually interesting, Hallmark movies aren't lol

      @AceGaimz@AceGaimz Жыл бұрын
  • Oh God, Kin. What a weird decision. It was only available on contract in the US, specifically on Verizon Wireless. And you needed a data plan. And it didn't even launch in most other countries. And it was 100 dollars. And you needed the Zune Desktop client to sync your data. And that appears to be running the Kin OS M version, because it has the Calendar and doesn't have the Spot.

    @daemonspudguy@daemonspudguy Жыл бұрын
    • I actually remember them being sold. They had a big display.

      @rberks5@rberks5 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rberks5 where are you from?

      @daemonspudguy@daemonspudguy Жыл бұрын
    • @@daemonspudguyMilwaukee

      @rberks5@rberks5 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, I am glad apple never made devices that needed software to restore or reset or get full use of... Imagine having to download iTunes. So glad that didn't happen.... COuld you imagine having to use iTunes for an iPod? That wouldve been crayyyyyyyzeeeeeeeeeeeee. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

      @razerow3391@razerow3391 Жыл бұрын
    • @@razerow3391 at least iTunes worked and still does. If you have a device that used the Zune services, you're fucked.

      @daemonspudguy@daemonspudguy Жыл бұрын
  • I love that your videos still retain the same charm and magic I loved from the beginning. So fun to watch every time. Thanks for being awesome.

    @coachcrage@coachcrage Жыл бұрын
  • Data plans nowadays are insane: I switched my plan from mid December 22 which give's me a lot of benefit: 23 EUR for unlimited 5G data (300Mbit/s down 100Mbit/s up) and unlimited calls and sms inside my country and a lot of stuff for the EU und USA and so on. Just amazing how these develop

    @MrDNE007@MrDNE007 Жыл бұрын
    • Mine is like 50 GB for 7€ and I feel kinda scammed because I see ads for 150 GB for 8€ (both include 5G but my phone doesn't :[ )

      @bacicinvatteneaca@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын
    • Wanna feel scammed? Be American

      @raphael1186@raphael1186 Жыл бұрын
    • What the fuck? HOW?????

      @Spacepack@Spacepack Жыл бұрын
    • Update: Now I use a secondary sim card inside a WIFI router at the same plan for an additional 15€ per month. So I can use my unlimited data at home (for my TV, MacBook, iPad and girlfriend) at high 4G speed (5G routers are somehow incredibly expensive) and on the go I use the 5G everywhere it pops up.

      @MrDNE007@MrDNE007 Жыл бұрын
  • YESSS A NEW UPLOAD!

    @marshmanandapril951@marshmanandapril951 Жыл бұрын
    • Look it’s a one billion dollar nugget

      @thatocapus3151@thatocapus3151 Жыл бұрын
    • all hail the king nugget

      @s.k.t.3855@s.k.t.3855 Жыл бұрын
    • Woohoo you’re 12 years old!

      @Paradoxical124@Paradoxical124 Жыл бұрын
    • A true blessing from the gods

      @eat_lasagna@eat_lasagna Жыл бұрын
  • I'd chalk the WiFi issue at the very end up to the fact that the Kin is just that old that it (probably) doesn't support any WiFi protocol beyond WEP. This was a thing for stuff like the Nintendo DSi as well where any access points using WPA2/PSK simply weren't supported in some situations like backwards-compatible DS games.

    @82000@82000 Жыл бұрын
    • That is a possibility, but the sad thing about that is WPA and WPA came out in 2003 & 2004. Mind you early implementations of it were complete ass and there was always a risk of compatibility issues between your device and the access point. Mind you 802.11n came out in 2009, what's the bet that this device can only handle 11g. This might need a revisit with an access point set up and gimped, uh, limited to old & slow specs so that chunks of junk like this will be able to go online.

      @mikes78@mikes78 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mikes78 Exactly. My 2004 PowerBook G4 can join WPA networks. Classic Microsoft, the Zune and Kin...

      @hoodye90@hoodye90 Жыл бұрын
    • I still have some 15 year old wifi stick that I got for a fiver and that can do WPA

      @HappyBeezerStudios@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
    • PSP too.

      @firemaker1258@firemaker1258 Жыл бұрын
  • Had the kin, the longer version. Loved it! Camera was really good at the time too

    @ThecrazyJH96@ThecrazyJH96 Жыл бұрын
  • 7:00 THE BEANNSSSSSSS

    @ItBeJT@ItBeJT Жыл бұрын
  • I had the neutered Kin TWOm because I couldn't afford the data plan, and I honestly loved it. Later I had to get a warranty replacement on my first nugget and Verizon told me the replacement was the LAST one they had. Don't know what happened to the rest of them

    @AndrewBehm@AndrewBehm Жыл бұрын
    • probably buried in a hole in the desert

      @WeebJail@WeebJail Жыл бұрын
    • They became sentient and jumped into fire

      @Journey_Awaits@Journey_Awaits Жыл бұрын
    • @@WeebJail They probably sent them to China to get e-cycled. The chips from these probably ended up in some low end smartphone in China.

      @steveballmersbaldspot2.095@steveballmersbaldspot2.095 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Journey_Awaits It sounds like something that would literally happen in Tom & Jerry lmao. I'm even imagining it in my head rn 😂

      @rayvega3163@rayvega316311 ай бұрын
    • I was in a similar boat, had the kin 2, it was decent with working WiFi and a headphone jack. However with the horrid software experience, it was my last non-almost-smartphone smartphone.

      @stroudnick@stroudnick2 ай бұрын
  • It really is amazing just how many times Microsoft has utterly failed to break into the mobile market.

    @thelongestrose@thelongestrose Жыл бұрын
    • Really should’ve just stuck to xboxes and computers

      @the3fellas753@the3fellas753 Жыл бұрын
    • Oh the windows mobile was good. They just didn't see it.

      @thisathema@thisathema Жыл бұрын
    • @@thisathema Yeah, the Motorola Q and Palm Treo (Windows Mobile version) were both good phones, among others.

      @jlc2415@jlc2415 Жыл бұрын
    • Who remembers Lumia phones

      @ivaerz4977@ivaerz4977 Жыл бұрын
    • @@the3fellas753 I'm watching this video on a Surface Pro 8. Every once in a while, a product of theirs sticks, if only by accident. Honestly, it's better than Google's tendency to constantly cancel good, working products in favor of the same product with a different name and not-fully-overlapping feature sets in buggier, 1st gen state.

      @atimholt@atimholt Жыл бұрын
  • 2:29, "we're only just getting out of that" Cries in Canadian

    @nikashpersaud353@nikashpersaud353 Жыл бұрын
    • 🥲

      @solared@solared Жыл бұрын
  • i definitely had one of these briefly and had completely forgotten about it until now

    @messyjetski2549@messyjetski2549 Жыл бұрын
  • As a kid, my my mom got 3 of these, she dropped 2 in the ocean and stopped using them cuz they sucked so much. The only thing they're good at is being a detox phone if you use social media too much. I did like flipping the screen up tho

    @astranott@astranott Жыл бұрын
    • The social Media Phone for when you need a break from social media, that is so Microsoft.

      @HappyBeezerStudios@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
  • It is amazing how terrible Microsoft did getting into the cell phone /mobiles market

    @jakeholland6194@jakeholland6194 Жыл бұрын
    • Between Windows Mobile, Kin, and Windows Phone... They fucked up big time

      @notlNSIGHT@notlNSIGHT Жыл бұрын
    • If at first you don't succeed, 😃-up a few more times.

      @nickwallette6201@nickwallette6201 Жыл бұрын
    • Especially when the company bought out Danger, just to have them shit the Kin out. You can have a older gen Danger Hiptop (Sidekick) and you will still have more enjoyment than the Kin, especially when the Hiptop was seen in games like Midnight Club: Los Angeles, and EA's skate.

      @ChaseMC215@ChaseMC215 Жыл бұрын
    • I lived through this era. Considered myself up with technology. Never, ever heard of this thing. At all. BlackBerry was still a big thing during this time, and I had a chonk Nokia E63, which was a BlackBerry imitation type thing, along with an iPod touch 4. I feel like I've slipped through quantum parallel dimensions, I cant' believe this Microsoft thing existed.

      @MattExzy@MattExzy Жыл бұрын
    • And Windows Phone wasn't even that bad, there just wasn't any software for it.

      @HappyBeezerStudios@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
  • I had a Kin Two-m and oh man I loved it. My family was a Zune family, so that integration was really my first taste of having a phone that was also a full Zune.

    @pandawithanorange@pandawithanorange Жыл бұрын
  • I actually had the fat nugget kin phone, it was honestly just a talking piece and we didn’t have data then. Didn’t realize it was even Microsoft til years later. Lol, apparently that makes me one of the few to have one. Edit: my mom had the other one so we had the pair of them in my household 😎

    @patty_meltd@patty_meltd Жыл бұрын
    • One billion dollars in one house... Wow

      @DeathMetalSon@DeathMetalSon Жыл бұрын
    • I had the ONEm back in college and loved it as just a phone. It was nice and small and made one handed texting pretty easy.

      @bbmikej@bbmikej Жыл бұрын
    • So you basically had about 20% ever made in your household.

      @Alias_Anybody@Alias_Anybody Жыл бұрын
    • @@Alias_Anybody apparently lmao.

      @patty_meltd@patty_meltd Жыл бұрын
  • I knew someone using a microsoft phone in 2016 or so. The Charger port was recessed too far into the phone chassis, so while it was a standard micro-usb, but you had to use microsofts special long-cable to get into the plug.

    @Flyingpapaya@Flyingpapaya Жыл бұрын
    • My keyboard is that way. The plug on the original cable is just a tiny bit deeper than a normal one. Still possible to use any other cable, all it takes is a bit of knife action on the rubber around the metal part.

      @HappyBeezerStudios@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
  • I used to daily this back in the day. Still one of my favorites.

    @Deadbeat116@Deadbeat116 Жыл бұрын
  • 2:07 "MONEY!" such inspired frases. I will now be happy

    @Yellow_pikmin_fan123@Yellow_pikmin_fan123 Жыл бұрын
  • i love how the definition of a cool phone before is so different than a cool phone today

    @vodkanizer6866@vodkanizer6866 Жыл бұрын
    • Cool phones before: whoa, the screen flips out! Cool phones today: is that a headphone jack?

      @andrewduong2740@andrewduong2740 Жыл бұрын
    • @@andrewduong2740 also an SD card slot lol

      @myrealusername2193@myrealusername2193 Жыл бұрын
  • 6:52 I was devastated when the 3D text didn't show up.

    @SOBINTAXIDRIVER@SOBINTAXIDRIVER Жыл бұрын
  • Kind of reminds me of my palm pebble. That was definitely my favorite 2000's phone.

    @deadGrlz206@deadGrlz206 Жыл бұрын
  • Omg. This takes me back. I had the KIN 2 and at the time, i loved that thing. I had NO idea how data worked, and my parents bought it for me with the stipulation I could only use the internet on it on the wifi at home.

    @Ratchetfreak1@Ratchetfreak1 Жыл бұрын
  • This makes me think it’s about time to upgrade from my Kin. Something with a proper Yahoo mail and MySpace apps might be nice and I’ve heard the Motorola Droid has a nice keyboard. Could you review that?

    @JamesTSmirk87@JamesTSmirk87 Жыл бұрын
    • I obviously know this is a joke, but I did daily use, as my only phone, in huge part because I had no need of replacement and there was absolutely jack all that interested me, a Sony Xperia L from 2013 to 2022 (tho there was 2 of them, 1 on the 1st year that got stolen and the other one from 2014 onwards lasted the 8 years). Yes, only this year I replaced it.

      @Kalvinjj@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
    • @@Kalvinjj What did you get as a replacement?

      @cellofellow5115@cellofellow5115 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Kalvinjj i have my Xperia M2 as backup, with custom rom thing is still usable for today, i do want a modern xperia, there were always good

      @SUPERBOBESPONJA1000@SUPERBOBESPONJA1000 Жыл бұрын
    • @@cellofellow5115 A Z5 Compact, as that was extremely cheap and ticked all the boxes. Could have gotten the XZ1 compact but it was a tad too expensive back when I got this one (from Aliexpress nonetheless). I just hate it that there isn't small powerful phones anymore. You want small, you get a stupid elderly phone. You want powerful, you get a gigantic thing. And everything is just a game of how far do you tolerate the bullshit, instead of how good you want it to be for me. Not even gonna talk about the headphone jack affair that killed the XZ2 for me.

      @Kalvinjj@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
    • @@SUPERBOBESPONJA1000 I was thinking of throwing some CFW on it too, push it to the Android 7 version I run on the Z5 Compact now, but damn last time I needed a video call on it and it was just dying trying to do it, and the camera itself suddenly bugged into a green noise glitch after some minutes of use, I thought it was time to finally set it on the shelf as an endurance trophy and backup. Dang thing was awesome with a 128 GB card that it could access through the mighty mass storage mode (and decently fast, it wrote to the card at 20 MB/s through USB. I think it's the card's top speed even). You will be missed good days of Android, you will be missed.

      @Kalvinjj@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
  • 3:26 MICROSOFT HAS A FANDOM WIKI??? Shouldn't surprise me though, even gas masks have their own wiki.

    @eliasvalimaa4282@eliasvalimaa4282 Жыл бұрын
  • 0:03 USED TO BE? I've got 153 if them. They're still fun

    @randomphonecollector3853@randomphonecollector3853 Жыл бұрын
    • Not as fun as they used to be. Just the insane variety in the early 00s was crazy fun, it was like the wild west, and nobody knew what they were doing.

      @solared@solared Жыл бұрын
  • I had a Sidekick and loved it, then I had a Palm Pre and loved it (my favorite phone I ever had to this day). I was so excited about the Kin and was so bummed about it flopping so hard. I'm so bored of the form factor monopoly of flat glass slabs, and I'm excited to see flips and foldables adding some variety, but I have my fingers crossed (hopelessly, I think) that maybe the keyboard sliders can make a comeback like the flip phone. RIP Danger and Palm.

    @rayniebee@rayniebee Жыл бұрын
  • Man I had a Kin TwoM back then and I was so stoked that it didn't need a data plan. The keyboard was actually decent and the phone felt solid but all the apps were nuggetware except the zune app which worked surprisingly well.

    @SpyceySalad@SpyceySalad Жыл бұрын
    • even a nokia asha dumbphone beats kin

      @crsimp9790@crsimp9790 Жыл бұрын
  • I really needed a new DankPods video today. Always puts a smile on my face!

    @sparkleponies5648@sparkleponies5648 Жыл бұрын
  • Whoa! This brings back memories of my first encounter with the HTC Tityn Windows phones. Even though the keyboard seemed robust, I hesitated purchasing as my experience with mechanical keyboards has been a bit "hit and miss" after enduring fast tapping while texting, some of the keys did wear out. And no thanks to little manufacturer tech and hardware support, there was little information on where and how to purchase a spare mechanical keyboard. However there was one thing about these keyboard phones, especially with Motorola Razrs and Nokia 7610s etc, their battery suffered almost zero bloat swelling and almost no explosion risks. Compare to the battery swelling and bloatphones of today's Nokia 2.1 and Huawei Cs. I know candybar touchscreen phones seems cliche now, but some phones like the Samsung Flip Z and Oppo N2 flipphones are trying to bring back a mechanical features with a twisting touchscreen, I've rarely seen them list how many mechanical cycles these screend and the hinges will endure. I wonder if more endurance is the way to go forward as in military grade phones with OS support for over 10 years as in Fairphones? Or will the industry be pivoting use and throw disposable phones? Unlikely, considering all the costs involved. I hope to be able to see maybe a satellite StarLink or Oneweb LinkedIn smartglasses or smartwatches , one day, maybe? Until then, happy to be clattering away on mostly, urban locations only restricted 5g and GPRS instatexting Nokias! Lol!

    @ZubinGulati@ZubinGulati Жыл бұрын
  • omg I had both and they're still in my closet they were fking iconic in middle school lmao the little keyboard felt so good and I loved how it displayed a picture of the person you were texting right next to each of their text messages lmao

    @Mattyaj@Mattyaj Жыл бұрын
  • 7:22 You know this was made by Microsoft when it asks you to restart

    @AlguienMas@AlguienMas Жыл бұрын
  • Bringing back memories because I had a kin 2 for a year. It was well after it became a feature phone, but I could text like crazy on it. Upgraded to iphone 4 after this guy. Wish I still had mine.

    @ShadowWesley77@ShadowWesley77 Жыл бұрын
    • @Recommended For You 🅥 Bots are so shit now,fuck off

      @coconut5650@coconut5650 Жыл бұрын
    • Oh I can see why texting would be great on it. there is just something about physical keys that makes fast typing a breeze.

      @HappyBeezerStudios@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын
  • I had one of these! I got mine back in the day on a 2 year plan for $20. I got it right after they made it where it didn’t require 3G service on your contract. For a basic phone, it was great! But my senior year I ripped it in half because the top screen stopped working. I recently bought another one a year ago while browsing eBay and got one in box for around $20. Doesn’t work just like yours but kinda cool to have.

    @ThatDudeArvai@ThatDudeArvai Жыл бұрын
  • I had the Sidekick 3 and that's still the best phone I ever had. It had a great app store for music and games like Sonic 2, Paperboy, tons of classics. Built-in MSN and Facebook (maybe MySpace then, can't remember) social media apps, email, messaging, everything. Love that phone.

    @RobertLewis85@RobertLewis858 ай бұрын
  • 4:51 Nice Perry the Platypus charger you’ve got there, mate 🕵️💚

    @nachiopistachio@nachiopistachio Жыл бұрын
  • Oh hey, a phone I actually know! My dad had one of the small square ones (the Kin1, as I'm now learning it's called), and I remember using it when I went on a trip to DC way back in middle school. After learning how long they lasted and how rare they seemingly are, it's amazing that I even know about it, let alone have one still around. In fact, I think we actually have two? It's been so long

    @molberding5@molberding5 Жыл бұрын
  • Thats one of coolest screen flips I have seen

    @vjollila96@vjollila962 ай бұрын
  • my favorite part of these videos is watching you get more and more patreons every video and there’s more stinky names on the screen so it scrolls faster every video

    @stephaintdeadyet@stephaintdeadyet Жыл бұрын
  • The Sony Ericsson series was released before these phones and they worked even better then the Kin. No restarting to change the screen. They even look better.

    @ukrainiansturgeon8561@ukrainiansturgeon8561 Жыл бұрын
    • I have never had an Ericsson but the PlayStation one was for me the best looking one :)

      @KRONIXTHEMAN@KRONIXTHEMAN Жыл бұрын
    • @@KRONIXTHEMAN the experia play? that’s a good one, reminds me of a PSP.

      @ukrainiansturgeon8561@ukrainiansturgeon8561 Жыл бұрын
    • During the cell phone era, Sony cybershot k800i was the iPhone of mobile phones.

      @azhariarif@azhariarif Жыл бұрын
    • @@ukrainiansturgeon8561 xperia was cool but as portable console it was fragile

      @LordDeBahs@LordDeBahsАй бұрын
  • Dank: $10 for a GB of data! Me, a Canadian: [crying in the corner as telecom giants beats me like my pop did]

    @cloudbank3106@cloudbank3106 Жыл бұрын
    • wait till you find out about european mobile carriers prices, 150gb for 9.99€ 😁

      @mirkomilova@mirkomilova Жыл бұрын
    • @@mirkomilova Can confirm currently in the Uk on unlimited data with three for £7.50

      @TilfordM@TilfordM Жыл бұрын
    • 80gb for 5.90€ on mobile and 25€ for unlimited home plan

      @hobbes1887@hobbes1887 Жыл бұрын
    • I paid 250 Canadian dollars for going over my data plan by a 1.5 gigs… last month

      @mttdlln1@mttdlln1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mirkomilova no fucking way

      @normalcat7296@normalcat7296 Жыл бұрын
  • That screen spinning open in the beginning was so cool I had to rewind

    @DanielAyy@DanielAyy11 ай бұрын
  • I had a Microsoft kin back in the day and I loved it

    @JonahTurkWrestling@JonahTurkWrestling Жыл бұрын
  • When you first jump-cut at 6:05 I thought THAT was the phone's video. I thought "Damn it looks insane". Nope. Nevermind. Not even close

    @adamgreenhill110@adamgreenhill110 Жыл бұрын
  • It's funny because if it were a fully fledged smart phone, I'd love it. I would totally take the hit to screen size to get my physical keyboard back.

    @CaptJABRONIE@CaptJABRONIE Жыл бұрын
  • that Telecom Walkabout Sportz was my first analog phone. I think I still have it somewhere as I never throw out anything of this vintage importance. I expect to see these on display in all the hipster coffee shops with all the other antique items they seem to display soon.

    @djesky1@djesky1 Жыл бұрын
  • The fact that this is the result of $1 billion in R&D should have triggered a corporate corruption investigation.

    @HatWearingDog@HatWearingDog2 ай бұрын
  • Hey Dank love your vids, thanks for being a laugh for me when things get ruff

    @emilyrodzinyak6811@emilyrodzinyak6811 Жыл бұрын
  • Am I the only one still daily driving a phone with a physical keyboard? That's something I wish they would bring back, maybe in the form factor of a vertical slider.

    @HughJeffreys@HughJeffreys Жыл бұрын
    • Lucky! :(

      @cinemint@cinemint Жыл бұрын
    • I was a long time blackberry user and made the switch to the titan by unihertz. If you like a physical keyboard and a huge phone it's not a bad option.

      @joshbrowning3488@joshbrowning3488 Жыл бұрын
    • Hugh what are you doing here

      @tylern6420@tylern6420 Жыл бұрын
  • 7:17 the way you randomly retailated against those poor beans had me in stitches lmao

    @blueechoes8106@blueechoes8106 Жыл бұрын
  • My first phone was a kin one and this videos has revived the nightmare that was having that hunk of junk

    @shadowthebear2784@shadowthebear2784 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi, I almost never comment on videos. I had the Kin One around 2010-2011 and 'upgraded' to the Kin Two later on. I think I was around 13-14 at the time and had only ever had flip phones or slider phones. When I got the Kin Verizon had already changed their mind on the Kin and it didn't require a data plan like it did when those devices first came out. As an upgrade from a slider phone this phone was amazing. I had some issues loading music onto it, like I'm sure everyone at the time did, but it really wasn't bad if you took it in the context of a feature phone. A feature phone with Wifi, Facebook integration, the ability to load music onto it, and a web browser? 13 year old me thought it was a great phone. The downside to these phones was that I was constantly resetting them because after a while they'd become so slow that you just had to wipe them. But I think that's like most feature phones, they all had limited memory at the time and most other feature phones you couldn't load music onto. Sure they failed, but as a kid this was probably my favorite phone. I upgraded from this to the Motorola X2, which I ended up flashing Cyanogenmod onto.

    @BScHamP100@BScHamP100 Жыл бұрын
    • Cyanogenmod? Now that brings back memories. I think I had to move to Lineage once Lollipop came out though.

      @acynicalasian@acynicalasian Жыл бұрын
    • @@acynicalasian Iirc LineageOS is just the continuation of Cyanoggenmod's work, right? What device were you running?

      @BScHamP100@BScHamP100 Жыл бұрын
    • @@BScHamP100 I think I was running a Galaxy S4 back in the day. And yeah, I did hear that LineageOS was the continuation of CM, but I'm not sure if that means ex-CM devs, forking the code base, etc etc.

      @acynicalasian@acynicalasian Жыл бұрын
  • What a pretty little nugget. I sure hope it was loved and cherished during its time amongst the living.

    @treflosho@treflosho Жыл бұрын
  • I don't know about the rest of you but this phone was my favorite growing up. I had the ONE and TWO and both were amazing phones for someone broke in high school. The videos and photos I took! Man I would do anything to get those memories back.

    @ajmjdj123@ajmjdj123 Жыл бұрын
  • I love the one second of silence at the start of your videos

    @thefatherless4thgrader@thefatherless4thgrader8 ай бұрын
  • All of us: “man the Zune was dogspit!” Kin: “Hold my lithium”

    @thecrashdocs@thecrashdocs Жыл бұрын
  • 7:16 The beans have returned

    @Tristanimator_@Tristanimator_ Жыл бұрын
  • I had a kin 1 it was before I was big into social media so I didn't notice the lack of features but it was pretty decent for pictures and texting which was basically all I used it for.

    @idiot1jerk2face3@idiot1jerk2face3 Жыл бұрын
  • As a feature phone, not requiring a data plan, it was great. The kin 2 (the long boy) was my daily driver for years. It felt like something new and it was snappier since it worked good out of the box. I was working min wage after school so being able to text faster and just make regular calls was great. The blue and red themes were pretty cool and it let you get rid of all the junk you never used, like web browsing (if I remember correctly).I think I finally got an iphone around 2014ish?

    @junkfooddiet@junkfooddiet Жыл бұрын
  • My first phone was a Kin TWOm, and I loved it. Zune, the touchscreen (a rarity for cheap feature phones), WiFi with the working browser, decent (for a feature phone at the time) camera, made it WAY better than the other cheap feature phones I got after it broke (Verizon was out of stock so I couldn’t get a replacement)

    @SirSethery@SirSethery Жыл бұрын
  • That nugget at the intro is sick, btw if you want a moder one the lg wing is perfect.

    @TheBigGuy.@TheBigGuy. Жыл бұрын
  • Love your content man 😁

    @Tommy_97_mtl@Tommy_97_mtl Жыл бұрын
  • I'll be honest here, I don't care about old nuggets. but your personality is why I watch. I don't even know about kins or anything, but god damn, your reaction is great.

    @jaxpimble7750@jaxpimble77507 ай бұрын
  • I really like the design of the tiny one, like wayyyyy more than i probably should, i wish it was sound software wise and not a rushed flop as i think it could have honestly been quite neat

    @HKT-4300@HKT-4300 Жыл бұрын
  • I worked in tech/IT since 1999.. I never heard of Microsoft Kin.. must been worth the 1B for sure..

    @eightsprites@eightsprites Жыл бұрын
  • 9:34 I've got an iPod touch 4th generation that still works with the original battery. It can still fully run KZhead, the video quality still looks super nice!

    @carllinden533@carllinden533 Жыл бұрын
  • I was trying to remember where I'd heard of the Kin until you brought out the 2. Good lord, I'd almost forgot I had that phone. Touch screen barely worked, plus all the points you brought up at the start. It worked well enough until it fell and broke, at which point I "upgraded" to an old Samsung Alias 2. Such a weird memory unlock, thanks

    @ethanaarness3062@ethanaarness3062 Жыл бұрын
  • I actually had a Kin One (the hockey puck) and it being just okay. Got stuck with it for 2 years because my parents were under contract with Verizon at the time so I made it work. I really didn't need a smart phone at that time cuz I wasn't super into social media, all I really needed was a phone that made phone calls and text messages and it got the job done. That being said, I absolutely DESPISED getting phone calls on the damn thing because you couldn't hear anything, even when you cranked the volume to the max! The Zune functionality wasn't THAT bad as far as I remember, I don't recall ever having to use the Zune software in order to put music on it, I just remember just plugging it into a computer and just dragging and dropping music on the thing but the one thing that REALLY sucked about it was the fact that it WOULD NOT PAUSE whenever you would pull out headphones from the jack like EVERY OTHER PHONE AND/OR MUSIC PLAYER EVER MADE. I don't remember the touch screen being THAT delayed, I think it's just because this one is thrashed. The one really positive thing I will give the Kin One is the fact that that keyboard was GODLIKE! That keyboard had NO RIGHT being THAT good, it was kinda concaved, perfectly spaced out and the buttons felt super good and comfortable (to me at least), I could text better with that keyboard better than I can with touchscreen keyboards

    @XxDesperado254xX@XxDesperado254xX Жыл бұрын
  • 3:21 Finally. More of final cut ruining videos features!!!

    @limitless_valley@limitless_valley Жыл бұрын
  • I used to have one of these! I had the Kin Twom! It was pretty cool as a feature phone with WiFi and not needing a data plan to use. I used to watch KZhead just fine they the browser. I still have mine but it also doesn't work at all anymore.

    @alexchrisccc@alexchrisccc7 ай бұрын
  • The Kin and Microsoft's attempt in general to target the younger demographic feels like Steve Buscemi's "how do you fellow kids" bit from 30 Rock.

    @ejburton4305@ejburton4305 Жыл бұрын
  • For comparison, I own Windows PDAs from the mid 2000s that have better app support than this thing, that I was also able to connect to the internet with (you need an unencrypted network, and most websites don't work). I can run XCOM, Doom, and theoretically Quake, alongside a stinkload of other custom software, all of which the billion dollar nugget phone can't. For Pete's sake you don't have to restart the device to change color themes! Also DankPDA when

    @captainnurbles9169@captainnurbles9169 Жыл бұрын
  • This is called Microsoft Kin but I wouldn’t want to share it with my kin

    @mkthemc@mkthemc Жыл бұрын
  • Hey Mr Pods man, I have come to bare wonderful news! Those USB stick MP3 players iPod shuffle knock offs are actually still being actively produced to this very day, I thought that was just wonderful and that it would brighten your day, thank you

    @DankBoyy00@DankBoyy00 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm actually watching this with my Kin one earbuds. They sound surprisingly good for earbuds that came with the phone and have lasted all these years

    @bulb97@bulb97 Жыл бұрын
  • I'd love to see you cover the palm pre! When that came out I was like "iPhone? What a piece of junk! Gimme that palm pre with the keyboard and trackball!"

    @Hotrob_J@Hotrob_J Жыл бұрын
    • The press really did it dirty by focusing on the shit that didn't matter like oh my gosh this edge that you'll never touch is so sharp! And it's made of plastic instead of some glass that'll shatter if you look at it wrong! And the keys are so tiny! Meanwhile I can cover half of the keyboard with my thumb and it still feels better than an on screen keyboard.

      @corky842@corky842 Жыл бұрын
    • The Pre3 was so good, shame about WebOS being only on TVs now.

      @kshadehyaena@kshadehyaena Жыл бұрын
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