Why Qatar Airways Flies An Almost-Empty Flight to Adelaide

2023 ж. 25 Қаз.
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  • My Mum booked this flight all the way through to Adelaide, knowing full well there was a 5+ hour layover in Melbourne Airport. You can't leave the terminal and there were no major shops open. There was a total of 24 people who caught the MEL to ADL leg of the flight. She said the experience of having a 777-300ER virtually to yourself was very surreal and made the layover worth it.

    @bm7500@bm75007 ай бұрын
    • My wife and her sister did the flight the other way, going to Doha the layover in Melbourne isn't that long

      @ianfox6106@ianfox61067 ай бұрын
    • Was the extra cost also worth it? Seems to be 30-35% higher

      @ajaybhatia1998@ajaybhatia19987 ай бұрын
    • Do they shoot you if you try to leave?

      @KurtRichterCISSP@KurtRichterCISSP7 ай бұрын
    • No and no. The normal price might be 30 to 35% higher but there are a lot of specials. And if you try and leave they won't shoot you but will not let you back onto the flight. And that might mean flying back to Adelaide on Jetstar, an low cost airline set up by Qantas just to make Qantas the parent look good. Jetstar would make 5 hours in Melbourne terminal appealing.

      @ianfox6106@ianfox61067 ай бұрын
    • It's worth the extra cost and 5+ hour layover just to have a 777 to yourself for a 50 minute flight?

      @davidthegreen@davidthegreen7 ай бұрын
  • The first time an airline actually encourages hidden city ticketing rather than trying to sue people for it 😂

    @TheNovaChronicles@TheNovaChronicles7 ай бұрын
    • Except they don't. they simply sell tickets to Melbourne. Quite common to allow people to book only one leg of a flight with a layover. Check out EVA62 (VIE-BKK-TPE) or SQ 25 (JFK- FRA- SIN)

      @FalconX88@FalconX887 ай бұрын
    • Probably because they can't resell the seats

      @jplayzow@jplayzow7 ай бұрын
    • It's not hidden city ticketing though, Qatar is selling tickets for Melbourne, not Adelaide. For passengers going to Melbourne this flight is no different from the normal direct one.

      @roccosemler228@roccosemler2287 ай бұрын
    • @@roccosemler228 It is /hidden/ from australia in plain sight

      @jplayzow@jplayzow7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@roccosemler228officially, they are selling tickets to Adelaide.

      @browneyes142a@browneyes142a7 ай бұрын
  • Qatar has unlimited flight rights to any Australian international airport, except the 4 major ports where they can currently only fly 28 times per week (this was expanded from 21 in early 2022). They are allowed to fly another 7 times to the limited ports, provided that flight is to or via a smaller port. This is what they are using for the DOH-MEL-ADL flight. Prior to the pandemic, they used that allowance to fly to Canberra via Sydney. They were all set to resume that route when Australia reopened the borders, then kept delaying it before changing to the current route.

    @magical_catgirl@magical_catgirl7 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, how is your comment different from the video. Redundant info sht.

      @theosteven3362@theosteven33627 ай бұрын
    • I learned more from your comment than the entire video. Thank you.

      @WhyT74@WhyT747 ай бұрын
    • ​@@WhyT74lol, the video didn't specify the reason for the flight clearly

      @dhruvtotre5975@dhruvtotre59757 ай бұрын
    • Yes, I was trying to remember who had that weird little add-on flight to Canberra (Paul Lucas flew on it.)

      @joermnyc@joermnyc7 ай бұрын
    • I was surprised they would get away with that loophole. Like QR988 is still taking up precious international landing slots at MEL (at least they seem precious if Australia is so tight with them). I wonder if Australia will change the agreement to prevent this extra flight to Melbourne getting a free pass because it flies empty to Adelaide hours later.

      @jacktattersall9457@jacktattersall94577 ай бұрын
  • Mad respect for being the first north American KZheadr to pronounce every Australian city mentioned correctly

    @keaton_m@keaton_m7 ай бұрын
    • this is BS, Melbourne is def not pronounced like that

      @stereowall@stereowall6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@stereowallI mean, it's not exactly pronounced like that, but that can mostly be attributed to his accent

      @keaton_m@keaton_m6 ай бұрын
    • @@stereowall I prefer Americans pronounce it the way they do in this video, it sounds forced and weird if they say Mel-bin

      @biosparkles9442@biosparkles94426 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, especially Adelaide. It's rare enough to have someone make a video mentioning Adelaide and even rarer for it to be the FOCUS of the video and spoken that many times xD

      @TrebleSketch@TrebleSketch6 ай бұрын
    • If they can't even pronounce the names of the cities of an English speaking country correctly I'm not surprised any more that they not even remotely can pronounce anything non-English 😅

      @Sagittarius-A-Star@Sagittarius-A-Star6 ай бұрын
  • Finally a Australian city other than Sydney, Melbourne or Canberra is mentioned

    @Cooldude-ko7ps@Cooldude-ko7ps7 ай бұрын
    • sometimes perth

      @dreadhead5719@dreadhead57197 ай бұрын
    • Only in conjunction with Melbourne

      @jackgibsxxx0750@jackgibsxxx07507 ай бұрын
    • Ah, of course! Like the city of... ... um. ... ... The uh... ... Aw crap.

      @devonalbatross@devonalbatross7 ай бұрын
    • No love for Brisbane!

      @Croz89@Croz897 ай бұрын
    • ADELAIDE MENTIONED 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

      @jakenh8264@jakenh82647 ай бұрын
  • I live in Adelaide, and Recently flew on this flight (Both Ways) to get to Europe. For my family, this was actually the cheapest option, which was weird, and annoying for us, but it was certainly a very cool experience to be on such a quiet 777, with it being full a few hours before. The layover is not fun at all though. 🤣

    @Darcy_prince@Darcy_prince6 ай бұрын
    • It's unfortunate because Qantas wants to keep its monopoly to charge people way more.

      @leorione@leorione3 ай бұрын
  • Imagine if we could get a bunch people just to book this flight for one day

    @Docwilson91@Docwilson917 ай бұрын
    • Bro didn’t watch the video

      @Joe-Nuts@Joe-Nuts7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Joe-Nutshe did....he hypothesized what would happen if people booked flights to from qatar to adelaide via melbourne even though its expensive. U high bu?

      @TojiFushigoroWasTaken@TojiFushigoroWasTaken7 ай бұрын
    • @@TojiFushigoroWasTakenyeah but what’s the point of the hypothesis? It’s a flight that’s going to happen either way. The result is obvious: people will get to Adelaide from Doha lol.

      @Prounounced@Prounounced7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Prounouncedit would surprise the crew.

      @dominick6131@dominick61317 ай бұрын
    • I am in Melbourne and have cousins near Adelaide so why not

      @thegamingteen44mc5@thegamingteen44mc57 ай бұрын
  • Wouldn't it be easier for Qatar to just extend the stroke on the "r", shift it to the left a couple places, then slap an "s" at the end, thus turning itself into a totally legit Qantas flight?

    @Rubrickety@Rubrickety7 ай бұрын
    • Qatas

      @Ruddpocalypse@Ruddpocalypse7 ай бұрын
    • where n

      @alexj1650@alexj16507 ай бұрын
    • @@alexj1650add a stroke to the r then shift it to the left a couple places. learn to read dawg.

      @sanuthweerasinghe7825@sanuthweerasinghe78257 ай бұрын
    • If they can avoid highly traumatising invasive cavity searches of dozens of women on their flights for truly stupid reasons then I think you're onto a winner mate

      @karmatraining@karmatraining6 ай бұрын
    • @@karmatraining Still less racist and arbitrary, drunken with power user of fascist police brutality than australian thugs (google raptor squads)...

      @KuK137@KuK1376 ай бұрын
  • Huge shoutout to Ben for making a meme that made me laugh more than any other meme in recent years 2:08

    @danielstrandby3678@danielstrandby36787 ай бұрын
  • I am from Adelaide, I remember seeing this plane while waiting to depart a direct flight to Kuala Lumpur. the malaysia airlines air hostess explained it to me qatars loopholes. She called them very cheeky.

    @Mat-xe8pt@Mat-xe8pt7 ай бұрын
    • Go Crows! 😊

      @daffers2345@daffers23452 ай бұрын
    • @@daffers2345 boo 👎 Go the Power!!

      @Mat-xe8pt@Mat-xe8pt2 ай бұрын
  • I love it when politicians says that climate change is due to the individual people when each of these flights have a higher impact on the planet than an entire family household in a year...

    @was1768@was17687 ай бұрын
    • True and very important

      @hughquigley5337@hughquigley53377 ай бұрын
    • Hence my comment above: So much pollution generated for money 😡

      @yasminbarry7941@yasminbarry79417 ай бұрын
    • Enjoy your dissolving paper straw

      @cuppacoffee1572@cuppacoffee15727 ай бұрын
    • @@teamgeist3328 😆 Thanks anyway.

      @yasminbarry7941@yasminbarry79417 ай бұрын
    • @@teamgeist3328 , with an estimated 100,000 flights every day worldwide, it probably doesn't take long for them to surpass households regarding output.

      @SgtSupaman@SgtSupaman7 ай бұрын
  • They found a loophole big enough for airplanes to fly through.

    @jbird4478@jbird44787 ай бұрын
  • Being from Adelaide myself, hearing that most people “don’t even know what Adelaide is” kinda hurts. We’re cool too I swear 💔

    @GreenJelly_64@GreenJelly_646 ай бұрын
    • Don't worry, he doesn't pronounce Qatar correctly either

      @chatthew@chatthew6 ай бұрын
    • He's probably right though. I think Wittenoom might be as least as known as your city. :( But for all the wrong reasons, of course ...

      @arcticbeak@arcticbeak6 ай бұрын
    • Dont worry mate. Most of India knows about Adelaide and/or South Australia now. Thats where that bad man with a mustache Travis Head is from. 😢 😡 😭

      @shramanadasdutta3006@shramanadasdutta30066 ай бұрын
    • That’s sad for you but apparently Sam cant figure out what my city is known for after googling it

      @LachieJohnson@LachieJohnson4 ай бұрын
    • I only know about it from Tim from the unmade podcast

      @Bobbo69@Bobbo694 ай бұрын
  • railways have a similar thing they run trains on less used lines and unused stations as its cheaper to do this incase the line becomes like there's a football event or something than having to reopen the line from scratch

    @pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342@pollyjackson-dzacchaeus13427 ай бұрын
    • Are you talking about parliamentary trains? If so it's not quite like that, many operators would be happy to stop these routes for good. The real reason is because it's so expensive to actually close the route, operators have to go through consultations and lots of paperwork, so it's cheaper to run a minimum service, which they are required to by law.

      @Croz89@Croz897 ай бұрын
    • @@Croz89 yeah i think its something like that plus the added bonus of a faster reopening time if needed

      @pollyjackson-dzacchaeus1342@pollyjackson-dzacchaeus13427 ай бұрын
  • As a melbournian i think the arrows at 4:40 make a fair bit of sense, i have actually been to most of the spots being pointed, but the most famous thing the city has is literally north of the bridge you pointed to

    @thegamingteen44mc5@thegamingteen44mc57 ай бұрын
    • Isn't it a flat white?

      @hahaboy211@hahaboy2117 ай бұрын
    • @@hahaboy211 It's Melbourne. It's a deconstructed flat white served in lab equipment while the barista tells you why the graffiti outside is amazing. Also it's raining.

      @tacet3045@tacet30457 ай бұрын
    • ​@@tacet3045Don't worry, it'll be hot and sunny in three minutes. Then a cold breeze in another ten.

      @BlackGateofMordor@BlackGateofMordor7 ай бұрын
    • @@BlackGateofMordor True.

      @tacet3045@tacet30457 ай бұрын
    • As an F1 fan my reference can only be Albert Park.

      @soundscape26@soundscape267 ай бұрын
  • Qantas themselves used to fly to JFK in New York via LAX, but had the similar restriction (from the US government) of not being able to sell tickets for the LAX to JFK leg. It only lasted a few years before they dropped it.

    @comicus01@comicus017 ай бұрын
    • this is also because AU wouldn't allow direct to melbourne flights from the US and had to have a stop in Sydney... back in the day

      @tfinkens@tfinkens7 ай бұрын
    • there were other reasons why. Prior to the AA-QF JV, QF would route NYC passengers on AA or someone else, and operating their own metal allowed them to collect additional revenue from passengers and cargo that was otherwise being shared. In addition, parking fees at LAX are substantial and their fleet sits at LAX for the day (they actually perform maintenance at LAX but not everyday on every aircraft). If they could generate revenue that offset parking fees, the flight came out ahead. Furthermore, when they rotate smaller aircraft into LAX (like AKL-LAX on an A332 for a while) they have a more efficient aircraft than an 744 or A388 to fly the LAX-JFK-LAX roundtrip.

      @cwstead@cwstead7 ай бұрын
    • Qantas operated the LAX-JFK flight for more then "a few years". It was sold as SYD-JFK (via LAX). They changed which inbound aircraft was used for the US transcon a few times. 747 from SYD, A330 from AKL, 747 then 787 from BNE after the SYD flight went to A380.

      @magical_catgirl@magical_catgirl7 ай бұрын
    • @@tfinkens AU did allow such flights. United stopped in SYD because they didn't have an aircraft that could get to MEL nonstop with the needed payload

      @magical_catgirl@magical_catgirl7 ай бұрын
    • Incorrect. This flight operated from 1999-2020. I've flown it many times and it actually did quite well for them.

      @NewYorkAviation@NewYorkAviation7 ай бұрын
  • "An airline is only worth as much as the routes it can fly" I thought someone told us that airlines were only worth as much as their frequent flier customer base!

    @agoatmannameddesire8856@agoatmannameddesire88567 ай бұрын
    • Their credit cards - remember, they're banks now, that also fly some planes sometimes

      @gorak9000@gorak90007 ай бұрын
    • 😅 No, you're talking about the airline rewards companies, remember? Those things are worth more than the airlines.

      @jpaugh64@jpaugh647 ай бұрын
    • Probably that Wendover Productions guy, not the guy who does this channel.

      @andrewjgrimm@andrewjgrimmАй бұрын
    • Tell that to Bonza!

      @adeejinnz@adeejinnz23 күн бұрын
  • Was anyone else waiting for inevitable call back to the episode on the corrupt New Jersey flight?

    @EpicgamerwinXD6669@EpicgamerwinXD66697 ай бұрын
    • Not that one but I remember an old video about Heathrow where he talked about the ghost routes.

      @soundscape26@soundscape267 ай бұрын
  • This goes some way to explaining why Adelaide airport always seems to have flights coming in and out but the terminal never seems to be over worked.

    @grogery1570@grogery15707 ай бұрын
    • Except, it doesn't. This is one flight per day.

      @cameront6330@cameront63306 ай бұрын
    • It will likely have almost 9 million passengers through it this financial year. I doubt one B737 load of people a week on a flight to Melbourne, would make much of an impact.

      @adamriach6554@adamriach65546 ай бұрын
  • It’s so cool seeing a video about a flight I coordinate often! Waking up at 2am to turnaround a flight with only 10-15 pax is definitely interesting though but I love doing this flight because the crew give me free sandwiches!! 😂😂

    @MomoZeEvil@MomoZeEvil7 ай бұрын
  • There is a similar one which goes to Sydney then Canberra. My parents have seriously considered using it as it’s so much more convenient than driving to Sydney.

    @snowyalice@snowyalice7 ай бұрын
    • *there was a similar one. It's gone now...

      @kurthalbauer7676@kurthalbauer76767 ай бұрын
    • Yes flying Sydney to Canberra is definitely convenient 😂. But seriously the coaches are basically as fast because you don't have the boarding/waiting times, and cheaper.

      @benjaminfranklin329@benjaminfranklin3297 ай бұрын
    • @@benjaminfranklin329 the train is also a pretty pleasant trip if the time lines up

      @biosparkles9442@biosparkles94426 ай бұрын
    • @@biosparkles9442it’s a four hour ride inside a train from the 1970s. I’d rather take the bus which ironically takes less time.

      @frodo322@frodo3222 ай бұрын
    • @@frodo322 I get travel sick on buses, I prefer the train

      @biosparkles9442@biosparkles94422 ай бұрын
  • Priot to COVID, Qatar did the same thing except flew to Canberra, Australia via Sydney. Plus the layover time in Sydney was only 2 hours or so and there were no other flights direct to Canberra from overseas (except NZ) so the Sydney-Canberra leg actually got a few dozen passengers instead of single digit

    @johnhamilton6003@johnhamilton60037 ай бұрын
  • I'm shocked at the lack of Simpsons jokes at the DOH airport.

    @Merennulli@Merennulli7 ай бұрын
  • Adelaidean here who literally had a conversation two days ago about this exact thing, as we watched a Qatar plane take off from ADL going to MEL. Thanks for the interesting (and quite timely) video

    @sheridanbartlett4182@sheridanbartlett41826 ай бұрын
  • If passengers do that, it is called "Skiplagging". You book a long distance flight, when your intention is to only actually use a part of the route. Because it is cheaper, somehow.

    @christopherg2347@christopherg23477 ай бұрын
    • It's cheaper if the ticketed destination is a place that isn't a popular destination.

      @wilsonli5642@wilsonli56427 ай бұрын
    • If you compare two flights to the same destination, but one is direct and the other is indirect, the indirect one will sometimes be cheaper. But this makes no sense, right? The indirect one flew further, so their operating costs should be higher! The trick is, your ticket price isn't really based on the operating costs at all. Your price is based on what the market is willing to pay, and people are willing to pay more for direct flights because they're more convenient. Similarly, if you compare two flights to different destinations that are the exact same distance and use the exact same plane type, but one of the destinations is more popular, then the more popular one will cost more. Because the ticket price isn't really about the operating cost, it's just about what customers are willing to pay. Now, just apply this same phenomenon to long-distance flights, where the final destination is unpopular (and so won't sell for much) but because it's so far away the plane has to stop over in a major hub on the way (which would normally sell for a lot). The airline is selling you the ticket based on the final destination, so they sell it for cheap, even though the plane had to go further.

      @Nalehw@Nalehw7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@wilsonli5642it's not about popularity, it's about competition at the nominal vs the real destination. Typically the real destination is a fortress hub where one airline holds disproportionate market control, while the nominal destination doesn't.

      @Default78334@Default783347 ай бұрын
    • I'm going to start calling this flight "hidden-city network planning" now. :)

      @vbscript2@vbscript224 күн бұрын
  • So I actually fly this route quite regularly. It’s quite nice having a plane to myself

    @cypher686@cypher6867 ай бұрын
  • I hope those single digit passengers on that 777 on this daily 1 hour flight are using paper straws, because every little bit helps 😂

    @jimivel604@jimivel6047 ай бұрын
  • My wife actually did take this flight from Adelaide to Doha, though going to Doha the stop over in Melbourne wasn't that long and I think she got a good price on the flight

    @ianfox6106@ianfox61067 ай бұрын
  • I took this flight to get home from South Africa back to Melbourne via Qatar! Searching up my flight code on the airline page during my layover in Qatar it always showed two entries: one to MEL, and one to Adelaide, and in that timeless, sleepless mirror dimension that is long international layovers, I was really paranoid I'd end up in Adelaide accidentally 😅 It worked out fine out course, and everyone without exception did indeed disembark at MEL. Did not make sense to me why the flight continued on to Adelaide at all to me then. Now with the context of this vid, what does not make sense to me at all is why the Aussie government prefers letting Qatar airways do this legal loophole stuff over, y'know, /not/ burning up a buncha airliner fuel pointlessly l? :/

    @AgentAileron@AgentAileron7 ай бұрын
  • As someone who lives in Adelaide I have always wondered this seeing this plane every time I go there

    @jameschan7893@jameschan78937 ай бұрын
  • You must have your PhD in airline business and science by now

    @itsorcacraft9037@itsorcacraft90377 ай бұрын
    • Or, even further, DSc (higher doctorate)

      @erkinalp@erkinalp7 ай бұрын
    • And don't forget bricks

      @GrumpyIan@GrumpyIan7 ай бұрын
    • They ought to spin off a channel about flights.

      @andrewjgrimm@andrewjgrimm7 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for doing a video about Adelaide!

    @22OS89@22OS897 ай бұрын
  • As a Melbourne resident I can confirm there is absolutely nothing to do in our international airport terminal

    @corndog-1@corndog-17 ай бұрын
    • But still more to do there than in Adelaide. 🤣

      @bugsygoo@bugsygoo7 ай бұрын
    • We've got a shitload of lounges. Being P1 and Swiss HON Circle you can use any *A or OWE lounge.

      @AustralianConsultancy@AustralianConsultancy7 ай бұрын
    • yeah, it is.. quite boring here.

      @drift7rs@drift7rs7 ай бұрын
    • If you like to eat, it's not bad. But that will only occupy you for an hour or two, tops.

      @karmatraining@karmatraining6 ай бұрын
  • @halfasinteresting this flight was originally planned to be a Canberra destined flight. However a week before flights started, it was switched to Adelaide as I guess Canberra didn't have enough passengers. People I have spoken to who have used it, say there is 20-30 passengers on board. I guess it helps with over spill from the Direct Adelaide flight, which has been upgraded from an A350 to a B777 this week.

    @adamriach6554@adamriach65546 ай бұрын
  • The waste makes me sad. Inefficient bureaucracy sucks, but this exceeds in anti-efficiency

    @quasinfinity@quasinfinity7 ай бұрын
  • Damn - that video perfectly captured the Australia-Qatar-Qantas dynamic. Sweet sponsor too

    @thermitebanana@thermitebanana7 ай бұрын
    • Yeah good on HAI for supporting local Aussie business.

      @szhou2513@szhou25136 ай бұрын
  • That NJPA chairman is never going to live that down. 😂😂😂😂😂

    @jackgibsxxx0750@jackgibsxxx07507 ай бұрын
    • In his defense though, how else was he supposed to get home faster so he could spend more of his entire vacation doing nothing but staring at horses?

      @dx-ek4vr@dx-ek4vr7 ай бұрын
    • @@dx-ek4vroh, I don’t know, his plane?

      @jaysmith1408@jaysmith14087 ай бұрын
    • Nor should he.

      @vbscript2@vbscript224 күн бұрын
  • Its worth noting here this is NOT skiplagging. Skiplagging is booking a route with multiple flights but stopping at a transit airport. This is just one flight number, and the passengers are able to book it to either Melbourne or Adelaide. If it was skiplagging then the passengers disembarking at Melbourne would not be able to collect their baggage.

    @theovineydibbydoda3150@theovineydibbydoda31507 ай бұрын
    • If a passenger does it it's skiplagging. If an airline does it it's not. ("Do as I say, not as I do")

      @user-jk2zm7uq5s@user-jk2zm7uq5s7 ай бұрын
  • My step family when they went to Australia for holiday got this flight lol

    @scottbrick9918@scottbrick99187 ай бұрын
  • Mate I took this flight last year in November ( probably when they came up with this route) not knowing about the layover, i remember staying at Melbourne airport which was almost empty, freezing and with 1 shop open. Safe to say it was a terrible experience.

    @user-ft2os3ho2q@user-ft2os3ho2q6 ай бұрын
  • Wow, HIA made a video on the same topic I did a couple months ago, that's pretty amazing!

    @plane_nerd@plane_nerd7 ай бұрын
  • my guess before watching is to keep the slot available for future possible usage.

    @_baert@_baert7 ай бұрын
  • Another thing about this flight is that the connection between Melbourne and Adelaide inbound is something like 7 hours and you cannot leave the airport and the terminal is closed. Even Business Class passengers cannot use the lounges.

    @AlonsoRules@AlonsoRules7 ай бұрын
  • Thanks Ben, much appreciated!

    @stepstr@stepstr7 ай бұрын
  • Our transport minister and Qantas are currently in a lot of trouble over this. Qantas provides access to an exclusive lounge to all members of parliament which many consider a bribe/form of coercion.

    @HugoWiffen@HugoWiffen7 ай бұрын
    • Hugo Of course it is, it's corruption.

      @coasteyscoasteys4150@coasteyscoasteys41506 ай бұрын
  • Actually it is not more expensive to fly through Melbourne. I just looked up Doha to Adelaide flights on December 13th on expedia and the flight through Melbourne is $4.00 cheaper $3,622 vs. $3,626. So you might get some people on the flight who consider $4to be worth 9 hours of time (or who just miss the duration of the flight and the stop-over listed - of course those are also the kind of people going to Sydney Australia who book a flight to YQY and are surprised to find themselves in Sydney, Nova Scotia ).

    @stvdagger8074@stvdagger80747 ай бұрын
    • Does that really happen? People think they're going to Australia but end up in CYQY? Gosh

      @biosparkles9442@biosparkles94426 ай бұрын
  • Yes, I flew this route as part of my trip from Singapore to Melbourne. Since I like freebies and traveling on miles, I found the availability Singapore - Doha - Melbourne - Adelaide. The booking systems did not show availability on the leg Doha - Melbourne, but did so on the flight Doha - Melbourne - Adelaide. Hence I booked a seat on this flight to Adelaide but got off in Melbourne.

    @antonh1709@antonh17097 ай бұрын
    • Did you have checked baggage or just hand luggage? No questions asked at immigration in Melbourne?

      @williamrech8062@williamrech80625 ай бұрын
    • @@williamrech8062 I did not check luggage - checked baggage could have traveled only to Adelaide. So if you intend to pull such trick - don't check bags. As for immigration - no issues, they don't care. I am Canadian so I used automated customs clearance lanes and don't remember talking to any official even. All pax clear customs in Melbourne anyway. In addition - upon exit the aircraft there was a lady asking disembarking people as to who travels onwards to Adelaide and who doesn't.

      @antonh1709@antonh17095 ай бұрын
  • I wondered about this flight. Few flights fly above my city, but this Doha - Adelaide one is fairly common. Makes a lot more sense now!

    @johgwynn17@johgwynn173 ай бұрын
  • i live in Adelaide. i remember a while ago me and my father headed down to the runway to watch the planes land and take of (we love planes) and then we saw this Qatar airways plane land and we were so confused why a 777 was landing in a tiny city like Adelaide

    @isitlunchtimeyettttt@isitlunchtimeyettttt6 ай бұрын
  • Love your aviation videos ✈️

    @GerardiAviation@GerardiAviation3 ай бұрын
  • Lol awesomely interesting video.. thanks. Your voice sounds like a channel I used to watch “Coby eXplanes”

    @christopherchapman9505@christopherchapman95056 ай бұрын
  • I fly from doha to sydney and then to canberra, i guess that was the same idea. In this case 20 people where on a big A380 it was amaizing how fast take off.

    @kikeb1534@kikeb15347 ай бұрын
  • You should do a Jetlag season going on as many ghost flights as possible

    @fredrikkirderf2907@fredrikkirderf29077 ай бұрын
  • This is the best video I've seen on yt!

    @thistamndypo@thistamndypo6 ай бұрын
  • I am very glad Ben's consent meme made it into the video, it made the video vastly more enjoyable to me! Thanks Ben.

    @mjblack2020@mjblack20206 ай бұрын
  • Im glad you mentioned the forced illegal strip search of those women, we are not happy with a particular airline over here.

    @stephaniet9875@stephaniet98757 ай бұрын
    • That was forgotten about and only dug out as an excuse a few weeks into the questioning on the favoritism. If that was the real reason they would have said it from the start, it was so telling that that excuse was thought up after a while by some political spin doctor. Sure that was bad a few years ago but that wasn't the real reason for restricting competition with Qantas come on.

      @carlosquinto1383@carlosquinto13837 ай бұрын
    • ​@@carlosquinto1383i only first read about it a few weeks ago

      @stephaniet9875@stephaniet98757 ай бұрын
  • 5:17 the Adelaide to Melbourne return leg is flown by Qatar's sister airline Rataq

    @kineticdeath@kineticdeath7 ай бұрын
  • They used to do this with Canberra too, it was a Canberra Doha flight but it actually stopped over in Sydney which is where the majority of the passengers would get on. It stopped after the pandemic because Canberra is not a hot destination.

    @frodo322@frodo3222 ай бұрын
  • A lot of cargo does go on this flight as it’s coming from Europe. Most of the cargo going to the Air Force base in Adelaide comes on this flight.

    @Firedogies@Firedogies4 ай бұрын
  • "This is going to be a long four-and-a-half minutes" Things you can say to your audience in an edutainment video that you can't say to your intimate partner!

    @lauscho@lauscho7 ай бұрын
  • They should hand out a cool sticker if you make it to the end.

    @alecjahn@alecjahn7 ай бұрын
  • Melbourne has the F1, Australian Open, MotoGP down the road, the Boing Day test, Melbourne Cup, known as the sporting capital of the world, and voted most livable city a bunch of times... it's fucking great here

    @gnittegdellort@gnittegdellort6 ай бұрын
  • This happens all the time. Many flights from Asia used to stop at Vancouver then onto Toronto in Canada. Because of restrictions on selling Vancouver to Toronto route to the domestic customers, it stopped doing that. Which is shame.

    @karlpark8575@karlpark85756 ай бұрын
  • Emirates Cebu to Angeles City is also a domestic flight in the Philippines

    @Nobi36@Nobi367 ай бұрын
  • #pronunciation With already two "accepted" pronunciations for Qatar, how is it that Sam managed to make up his own third unique way? 😂

    @RollcageTV@RollcageTV6 ай бұрын
    • And then switches the pronunciation halfway through. Mind-boggling.

      @DannysGarage@DannysGarage6 ай бұрын
  • Just like many flight from "London (Heathrow) - Edinburgh" which is empty, but Airline keep operating it so they didn't lose Heathrow landing slots which is more expensive to get than operate an empty flight.

    @ErnestJay88@ErnestJay884 ай бұрын
  • 2:08 lmao it's the first time this channel uses a good meme. very nice Sam from Wendover Productions.

    @nekajuii@nekajuii7 ай бұрын
  • No way someone actually mentioned Adelaide and they’re not Aussie

    @wisdomy736@wisdomy7367 ай бұрын
    • It's already surprising enough if Adelaide gets mentioned by Aussies

      @kaan-kaant@kaan-kaant7 ай бұрын
  • Basically Qatar airways couldn’t get permission for another flight to Melbourne. So Qatar airways fly to “Adelaide” 😉 it just happens to be via Melbourne first.

    @notmenotme614@notmenotme6147 ай бұрын
  • I love the commentary. 👏👏👏🤣😂 Well done 👍

    @wildlifeshutterbug1719@wildlifeshutterbug17196 ай бұрын
  • All these extra greenhouse gases being produced and meanwhile I'm stuck drinking through a paper straw.

    @jimmbob4646@jimmbob46467 ай бұрын
  • Awkward note: Sam doesn't know what Melbourne is known for...sponsor is a Melbourne based company!

    @CigaretteSmokingGuy@CigaretteSmokingGuy7 ай бұрын
    • Or maybe he really knew. :)

      @andrewjgrimm@andrewjgrimm5 ай бұрын
  • They could fly to Avalon International Airport. Its only 20 minutes further from Melbourne than Tullamarine but at the same time is very much a regional airport.

    @Goatcha_M@Goatcha_M7 ай бұрын
    • Yes, they could. Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane all have nearby international airports which are not capped which they could fly to.

      @magical_catgirl@magical_catgirl7 ай бұрын
    • No, I don’t think Qatar wants to associate themselves with Jetstar, Bonza and AirAsia yet

      @yangliu128@yangliu1287 ай бұрын
    • Does Avalon take international flights? I thought it was domestic only

      @johnhamilton6003@johnhamilton60037 ай бұрын
    • @@johnhamilton6003They opened the international terminal in December 2018 with Air Asia X flights to Kuala Lumpur twice a day. They'd added other companies and were about to open Vietnam flights when Covid hit and shut everything down. At present the International terminal is sitting empty afaik until either Air Asia comes back or some other company wants to take advantage of not having to deal with Tulla. Avalon's runway is big enough for A-380s, but the lounges can only really hold one flight at a time. I assume its cheaper for the airlines than Tulla, but I really don't know. I hope it re-opens international again. I used to work there and I miss it.

      @Goatcha_M@Goatcha_M7 ай бұрын
    • @@johnhamilton6003 Avalon is able to take international flights. Thus far it has only been used by low cost carriers from SE Asia

      @magical_catgirl@magical_catgirl7 ай бұрын
  • It's funny you mentioned the whole ghost flights to keep the time slot thing, cause that's what I was initially thinking wouldthe answer SuperVinlin

    @TS_Mind_Swept@TS_Mind_Swept7 ай бұрын
  • Thank you Ben for the meme, it made me laugh

    @terezar880@terezar8807 ай бұрын
  • Not entirely sure if I'm awake or dreaming still while I get up at a stupid time to get a Qantas flight from Melbourne to Adelaide. Yes I'm regretting booking a Qantas flight

    @jasminepumpkin8091@jasminepumpkin80917 ай бұрын
  • i think this is the first foreinger ever to pronounce Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney and brisbane correctly, good job man, idc about the video you earned a sub just for that

    @bucket6386@bucket63866 ай бұрын
  • Growing up in Adelaide we were told that there's only 2 places in the world that international shipping refuses to take water on. The water is better now. Melb to Adelaide only has 20 mins of "flight", the rest is ascending or descending

    @gregiles908@gregiles908Ай бұрын
  • You probably need to check your details before sprouting off. Qatar have flown DIRECT Doha to Adelaide QR914 and return QR915 a few hours later, most days since about 2016. You can also choose to fly via Melbourne to Doha.

    @granthugo856@granthugo8566 ай бұрын
  • And here I am re-using straws and turning the heat down in the winter like a moron.

    @abhishekrao1525@abhishekrao15257 ай бұрын
  • I’m Australian and I’m going to be honest, I don’t even know what the hell goes in Adelaide

    @Aresenal1739@Aresenal17397 ай бұрын
    • I live in Australia and only just heard about this Adelaide thingy.

      @ashleymalamute@ashleymalamute7 ай бұрын
    • I bloody well live in the rAdelaide and I only just found out about it. What goes in Adelaide - race cars do, I mean I wouldn't think many people would have known there's a city, if you can see over the concrete barriers that separate the racing from the other side of the barriers I'm pretty sure it's like the German one. Tickets please, no soup for you, and behave otherwise there's going to be a definite case of getting poked with a stick, like the cops and school children carry. A school had a mass poking just the other day… the horror

      @Bob-Jenkins@Bob-Jenkins7 ай бұрын
    • One time I checked a tourist guide for Adelaide, and it was literally just wine and beaches, it was an incredibly sad experience.

      @eris9062@eris90627 ай бұрын
    • I'm originally from Adelaide. I still don't know what goes on there. We used to be good at serial killing, but it seems they don't even do that anymore. As Paul Kelly sang, "The streets are so wide, everybody's inside, In A-del-aide."

      @bugsygoo@bugsygoo7 ай бұрын
    • @@bugsygoo Well it's one more boring Thursday night in Adelaide Where it looks like everybody must have died There's no one on the streets and nothing on TV Down on Anzac Highway in my rusty old FV And I'm looking for some food to take away Finger licking kitten and a double fisted bun Well I've chewed and spewed and so I'm here to say Orange laminex Pizza bars get you down Yes we know it was the festival of art and all that stuff And the culture vultures still sat on a the fence Before you put your bum on those plush red seats take we look in your backyard Don't we need some changes to this town? Arty farty cities bring you down Don't we need some changes to this town?

      @Bob-Jenkins@Bob-Jenkins7 ай бұрын
  • I flew from Doha in Qatar to Melbourne about a month ago, on flight QR988, and there was only like 2 families out of the 100 or so people on the plane who were going to Adelaide from there.

    @NBAreelsZz@NBAreelsZz3 ай бұрын
  • Probably the best pronunciation of Melbourne and Adelaide I’ve heard in a KZhead video

    @asdfssdfghgdfy5940@asdfssdfghgdfy59407 ай бұрын
  • Please do not waste fuel

    @monikarani4471@monikarani44716 ай бұрын
  • I believe there is another tweak... Melbourne airport has no curfew... I think this flight is at a time when it has to land in Melbourne since everyone else is closed.. that is also why id waits more than 90-120 minutes to continue to Adelaide

    @danielsimons5706@danielsimons57067 ай бұрын
  • Lol, love the random Cutthroat Kitchen reference!

    @taukid421@taukid4217 ай бұрын
  • a good idea for a future half as interesting video is a video about the topic of aircraft marshal hand signals if you ever been to a airport and you saw a person guiding a plane into its gate that is a aircraft marshaller some airports have a automated system called a visual docking guidance system for backup redundancy in case the automated system at a gate is not functioning correctly the airport still has a staff of trained aircraft marshalers if a flight crew notices that the visual docking guidance system at their gate is not working like it should can request for a human marshaler to come guide them into their gate

    @TravisRitenourautismvlogs@TravisRitenourautismvlogs6 ай бұрын
  • Ah yes the Boeing 777-A320

    @JoshuaC923@JoshuaC9237 ай бұрын
  • Can we get governments to ban airlines from flying routes that have less than a certain percentage capacity onboard, like maybe 5 or even 10%?

    @Ghiaman1334@Ghiaman13347 ай бұрын
  • Watched this is in Melbourne international airport. Good timing Sam

    @notthatgay@notthatgay6 ай бұрын
  • Something that if find half as interesting that you missed was that your sponsor Bellroy was partly created in the Melbourne suburb of fitzroy with the other place been Bells Beach which is a world famous place to surf which is an hour or so drive from melbourne

    @SandyCrack69@SandyCrack696 ай бұрын
  • No, in fact, buying something from bellroy is not great for the environment. Buying something from bellroy might just be less harmful than buying from other brands, but definitely worse than buying nothing at all. And it might actually be bad, if it encourages more consuming with this excuse. I think you taught us that yourself when you were talking about greenwashing.

    @janmuller6546@janmuller65467 ай бұрын
    • on the one hand, sponsorships earn this channel money on the other hand, you have a good point about environmental ethics Who is right?

      @May-gr8bp@May-gr8bp7 ай бұрын
    • If you *are* going to buy something though, I think it does make sense to buy from a company that does less environmental damage.

      @ultradude5410@ultradude54107 ай бұрын
    • You're angry because people on this as supported platform are advertising... ..Things. If you go to a shop you are absolutely going to lose it because the whole place is full of objects for sale

      @thermitebanana@thermitebanana7 ай бұрын
    • I have a nice key cover from Bellroy - very happy with it. I’m allergic to nickel so need to keep my keys away from my skin and it’s a neat and good quality solution!

      @paulebroderick@paulebroderick7 ай бұрын
  • Hundred of flights a day are this way. There should be a minimum passenger limit for jumbo jets; or you have to board a smaller plane.

    @Turdfergusen382@Turdfergusen3827 ай бұрын
    • The government made the problem so more government ain't going to fix it. The fix would be to remove the anti competition law

      @carlosquinto1383@carlosquinto13837 ай бұрын
    • Its a good idea but logistically impossible. Especially for international airlines. It would probably totally backfire as well because they would have to keep smaller planes around which then have to be ferried with no passengers so they can get back to where they need it.

      @asdfssdfghgdfy5940@asdfssdfghgdfy59407 ай бұрын
  • I honestly cant believe Adelaide has made it to Half as interesting, get some!

    @uncle_toobs@uncle_toobs7 ай бұрын
  • 4:38 The literal Australian Grand Prix: Am I a joke to you?

    @facundootero7973@facundootero79737 ай бұрын
    • Sponsored (as of this year, as a series partner) by Qatar Airways.

      @DragRedSim@DragRedSim7 ай бұрын
    • Was better in Adelaide

      @CallanKilderry@CallanKilderry7 ай бұрын
  • Question: why is Qatar Airways NOT allowed to pick up passengers from Melbourne to Adelaide on its Doha-Adelaide trip, but IS allowed to pick up passengers from Melbourne to Doha on its Adelaide-Doha trip?

    @gy407@gy4077 ай бұрын
    • In general, domestic traffic are reserved for airlines based in that country, so in this case, only Australian registered airlines can fly passengers between Adelaide and Melbourne. Foreign airlines can fly between domestic cities but they can't fly local passengers flying on the domestic segment only.

      @cbohn99@cbohn997 ай бұрын
    • @@cbohn99 thx for the clarification !

      @gy407@gy4077 ай бұрын
    • @@gy407 if you're interested, Sam actually has an old Wendover video about this! It's called "the five freedoms of aviation", and it summarises the different categories of what airlines are allowed to do in their home countries and in foreign countries. It's how I first learned about this exact concept 🙂

      @margottago@margottago7 ай бұрын
    • I flew something similar, but it was a triangle: Amsterdam -> Almaty -> Astana -> Amsterdam. My first leg was Amsterdam -> Almaty and on the way back it was Almaty -> Astana -> Amsterdam. Basically it was four flights with one plane: Amsterdam -> Almaty Amsterdam -> Astana Almaty -> Amsterdam Astana -> Amsterdam Notice the lack of Almaty -> Astana.

      @oscassey@oscassey7 ай бұрын
    • @@margottago noted 👍 Thx !

      @gy407@gy4077 ай бұрын
  • I've seen enough wendover videos that I thought I (roughly) knew the answer and actually got surprised at 2 minutes in

    @zamuy12479@zamuy124797 ай бұрын
  • What a missed opportunity to mention, that Bellroy is Australian

    @Bogvi@Bogvi7 ай бұрын
    • Bellroy is by far the fanciest wallet brand I've seen advertised on KZhead. (Full disclosure: I own one, because I'm a fancy man)

      @thermitebanana@thermitebanana7 ай бұрын
  • That's pretty funny, I actually flew from Qatar to Adelaide, but without a layover in Melbourne.

    @lucasschindhelm5964@lucasschindhelm59646 ай бұрын
    • As the video points out, in addition to this weird Melbourne ghost flight, there is also a "normal" direct daily Adelaide flight, which continued throughout COVID.

      @cameront6330@cameront63306 ай бұрын
  • 0:10 It’s a 777 but he shows an a320 💀

    @ATIMELINEOFAVIATION@ATIMELINEOFAVIATION7 ай бұрын
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