HE GOT MAD! Did he overreact? Road Rage at TeamSport Go Karting Sheffield
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It’s hard to say you did anything wrong there. It does look like you gave him a couple of light taps but that’s what happens with indoor karting. It’s not an excuse to try and pile drive you off the track. People like that can be very annoying especially when they try to squeeze you into a barrier for being faster than them. Some good driving in that session though and some nice overtakes!
Cheers Alex! I'm not denying there was contact, as you say, that's a part of indoor karting! 👍
so you beat ur Pb in that session but did not count it u said pb 59.3 ur best that session 58 seconds
2awyliekatrter7977-I have to agree with you simply based off what I saw, And to be fair there is always going to be some contact weather it's indoor or outdoor, weather it be a rub or slight push. I don't get upset about those and most others don't either but if its and individual doing so repeatedly and recklessly that's something else entirely. That's not what happened here, and the #10 driver seemed to lack control of his cart in several turns, when he deliberately try to barrier jinx Rob That is a huge indicator of what kind of driver and person they are so I would seek to pass and put them several carts behind me. Those are the kinds of drivers that will get someone hurt and I want no part of that.
@@jericho1-4 Totally agree! Accept for your spelling of 'cart' - in the UK we spell it 'kart'. Sorry for being pedantic! 😂
Indeed
The way I see it, a few light taps along the straights is a clear indicator to the one being tapped that they took the wrong line and are slower since someone is exiting with greater speed. That means they ought to allow for you to pass and not deal with being in their way. The guy was sliding through half the turns was never going to be faster than you.
Indeed! Well summarised! 👍
Rubbing is racing, as they say. Nothing wrong with your driving at all. First time I've seen one of your videos and it's obvious you're a very good, and very fair driver. A slight bit of rubbing is perfectly normal on an indoor track. However what the other guy did was completely unacceptable. Also kudos to the marshal for de-escalating the situation.
Rubbings racing indeed!
You did nothing wrong tbh, you have more room than I would have to be fair mate. Light taps are a normal part of indoor karting especially even at the top levels with members of the tracks. All you can do is keep pushing and not let it get to you quality video again though
I'm well over it to be fair, was fuming at first, but calmed down as I got changed. It took about 10 minutes to get the footage off the GoPro and I was going to go show Ryan etc, but ended leaving instead as I'd calmed down enough 😂
@@RobGoesRacing It the guy in kart #10 that needs to review your footage - Maybe, just maybe, he'd see he was driving like a dick!
Love the fact you waited a couple of weeks before posting this and you revised the script. Shows amazing emotional control!
Conducted yourself better than I would have😂 no fault of yours he was just salty you were a far superior driver
Thanks for the thumbs up. i was the driver in red with the white helmet lol and he was definitely been a dick
I had exactly same , you can tell with his driving style that he is letting it slide out and for you to avoid contact is near impossible because he is going to take each corner differently
Yeah, his driving "style" was the main issue. Left little choice for where I could pass! 😂
@@RobGoesRacing to be honest in the timed sessions its better just to back off and avoid people like this because it will mess your lap times up if they crash you into barriers or like my mate did to me take you out on the ramp lol
You drove really well. He was just embarrassed as he’s obviously realised he’s not as good a driver as he thought he was and was a sore loser.
Exact same incident happened to me on the inside of that corner except he spun. The marshal told me off. It’s a real issue with people not leaving space when you’re on the inside, then they get pissy when they get bumped.
Even if you did tap him a bit, in no reality does a few love taps justify punting someone off the track like that.
Good reaction tbf, heat of the moment then a diplomatic ending. As only occasional karter here I could see myself starting getting into a rage like the other guy did over contact BUT, you have to remember how tight these tracks are and how poorly powered rental karts are. A few little bumps are part and parcel of getting your elbows out and netting passes as the only real tool in the box. If someone bumps me I know the level of bumping them back if a fight for places is on but never becoming a torpedo like that! Rental places could do better in explaining what a good bit of racing is vs turning it into bumper cars. Marshall did his best to let you both carry on, and well done for not just racing up to the back of him and starting round 2!
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Another amazing comment too! 👍 Cheers 😂
I went recently and had either a yellow or red flag every lap, meaning I didn’t get a representative lap time. Do you know a good time of the week to go where it is quieter?
bro is just raging and ramming everyone lol
What has helped me deal with slower drivers is driving with low difficulty AI on sims. Makes you reconsider your lines and breaking points and always be on the edge when racing randoms
Yep and practice passing, like get to p1, drop to p8 work your way back to p1. Very fun
He did some shit moves man ! Number 10 driver should be banned for life !
this happens to regularly at all go karting tracks, recent one I had this weekend was 3 guys that just didnt like when you got past them and was just straight line you at the corners. Almost like targeting you, few of them brake checked you too because you was right behind them. Most people that race have no space awareness and also have no racing knowledge. Letting the faster kart through is just better for both drivers.
I’ve had it soo many times myself, soo many sore losers can’t handle being over taken by clearly faster drivers. Any drivers that have been faster than me I generally let past. Puts many people off karting.
Indeed it does!
I think that you gave him plenty of space round the outside. And his actions were completely unjustified. But some great driving and overtakes! ( Btw what editing app do u use )
Any bumps you may of had before the bump were all accidental with people just have to expect those things to happen, and let it go If this happened while on the track i marshal at he would of been shown our no bumping board for trying to Push you into the barrier, then a black flag for the t-bone direct into you. As you said no matter the Marshall it would of been a instant return to pits and told of/kicked of that session.
Yeah, I'm happy it was handled well - he was in the pits for quite a while being spoken to. Ryan was working in the pits, not really marshalling (someone else was in race control), so he didn't really see any of it directly, I don't know if it was seen by anyone watching the cameras though.
@@RobGoesRacing Sorry I've only just seen this video and it's been a while since it happened however by the looks of things I was putting fuel in the bowser or something judging from where I was at the time of the incident but no one would have seen it on cameras because the only camera that is watched all the time is the one at the back by mech bay due to the fact it's a blind spot for all marshals. Hope this helps and thanks for saying I handled it well
underrated content, keep it up man
I find having your own suit, helmet etc makes you a bit of a target on public sessions. It's one of those, a light tap here or there is fine imo, sometimes it's unavoidable due to you carrying more speed through a corner and you just aren't expecting them to be basically parked on an apex that is flat out or whatever.
That's a good point, hadn't really considered that too much! That's exactly what happened here, I carried more speed and couldn't avoid him when he practically stopped! 👍
im going go karting this monday Rob and i was wondering how to make tight corners easier
the "WELCOME" did jumpscare on me
Sorry! I'm working on improving my audio levels in newer videos! 👍
u literally drived him to the wall at that left turn lol
Rubbin's racin', Harry.
I've had the lap record here about 3 times, and may still hold the lower track record....we all know your little taps were because of his poor driving and when he tried to push you into the barrier he took himself out and didn't like it so t-boned you on purpose without touching the brakes. He drove like a twat, you did nothing wrong. Apologise my arse.
I've discussed this with Ryan since this video went live. The only reason he asked me to apologise, and the only reason I did apologise was to help calm him down and prevent any further issues on what was a busy evening. The last thing anyone needed was him trying to square up to me in the pits or anything.
@Rob Goes Racing yes...more proof he was wrong. Violent people should be banned. "Apologise because I'm bigger than you" springs to mind. You did nothing wrong. Blocking during a non race session is also dumb.
Carting inevitably has incidents.How you react says more about you than your driving. No hospital- good session!
Another great video, other drivers can be a bit annoying sometimes
True, it would be easier if we had the track to ourselves! 😂😂
Yeah, in 1994 the same thing happened to me, some kid called 'Lewis' getting in our way and complaining about being bumped. Anyway one Saturday the owner said "Don't worry Ron is coming to watch him today so he soon won't be a problem" I've no idea who Ron was or what he said but the owner was right, lewis and his dad both stopped coming and racing at go karts 'r' us. Today I've still got the fastest lap at our go kart centre and I've not seen this 'Lewis Hamilton' racing there ever since. Haha 1-0 to me!
@@michael1 😂🤣That poor kid - I hope 'Lewis' found a job he is good at!
13:34 i would love to. I hope you come to Newcastle soon !! Btw im gonna be racing in the BIKC this year
Not sure about Newcastle, quite a trek. Maybe one day! I'm doing BIKC too, so who knows, maybe finals at Warrington!! 😂😂
@@RobGoesRacing i hope so ! Fingers crossed 🤞
The biggest problem with teamsport is that they don't fully explain that most sessions are just timed laps and not about position and overtakes. Used to come here every week but got fed up of either being put on track with people who have zero experience or overly aggressive idiots
this track looks a lot of fun! the '2 fast lefts, down the ramp, 2 tight lefts' section must be super satisfying to get right also, you did nothing wrong at all and i reckon the other driver completely overreacted. maybe he felt contact where there wasn't any but it's still no excuse for what he did.
Yes, I love the fast back session - I tend to take it a little slower during public sessions with I experienced drivers, but it's still fun! 😃
I've done a few karting sessions my self and due to various jobs I've had including first-aid at banger racing I have quite a good knowledge of what's safe and what is down right dangerous like what he did. In my opinion if he was proved to be aiming at you then he should have been blacked flagged and not allowed to come back for at least a couple months. Last hats off to you for In my opinion keep your cool you are certainly a better man than me and the sort of quick considerate driver I love to meet on open sessions.
Nah you’re fine, that was good racing and the guy got mad, pissy boys what I call em
Honestly the gammon casuals that go to Team Sport are insane. I had a massive crash in the Warrington circuit. Not sure if you know it but there's a downhill section that leads into a fast chicane which is flat out. The guy ahead of me maybe at 10 meters decided to go slow and close the gap on the racing line. To avoid killing him I had to slam on my breaks, I lost the rear and 180 into the barriers and engine cut out. Fair play to the marshalls though, the guy got kicked out but god damn my neck and ribs the day after.
I hate it when you're racing with someone who is obsessed with their position...
3:53 I held my line, you forced him outside, but he sould have let you pass, before then
Kart 10 was a chopper of the highest order
Hi Rob, Are those electric (battery) powered karts? What's their max speed?
Hi, the Sheffield ones are petrol powered. TeamSport suggest a top speed of 40mph - these ones are a bit old and some are a little slower than others though!
@@RobGoesRacing Thanks!
Indoor rental car racing is awesome…this track is the best indoor track I’ve ever seen!!! I think you didn’t hit him too much and both of you should’ve kept it cooler 😊
Get Michael Schumacher to look at the video. He would investigate it since he used to be an F1 driver.
I’d say you conducted yourself very well, situations like this can be very angering and you stayed in control of your emotions in my opinion, you kept racing clean
Its disheartening sometimes for me being an avid racer be it for fun or a bit more serious, when I go to sessions and no matter how hard I try you have little kids that can just get past me. Although even worse is people that blatantly disregard rules and rammers which is an occurence quite often. I am 194cm and 120kg for the main reason why I cant beat kids at all.
Ever fancy trying a slightly smaller more technical track, come to Nottingham and try out our track ‘The Hangar’ I’m sure you’ll enjoy it!
Yes! I've been watching videos on it since it reopened! Definitely on my list to visit! 👍
@@RobGoesRacing I work there, gimme a shout I’m sure we can sort something💪🏻
Will do!
rob i had the same done to me in grid series got put in the barrier .and the video footage is on youtube of him doing it .
😮 that's unacceptable on a members event if it was deliberate! I hope suitable action was taken? What track are you at?
@@RobGoesRacing was at sheffield , they did nothing
Oh, then I guess they didn't see it properly? I know someone was kicked out in round 1 for trying to pass 5 karts at once and causing a big crash
@@RobGoesRacing i was just behind that when it happend
Just worked out KZhead name, I know who you are now 😂😂
Zero over reaction. If that would have happened in the States, there would have been gun play. It's called road rage.
What a great video i really enjoyed it
Get a lot of that in teamsport, hairpin before the ramp people just try to ram you up the wall or completely take you out if you overtake them
Yeah, all tracks will get it. Avoiding public sessions usually helps - it's what I do now! 👍
@@RobGoesRacing i normally go for late sessions with 2-3 people on. Track i was referring to was teamsport nottingham
« Hopefully i dont catch up » we all know he wants.
I had a similar sort of incident with one guy a while back now.. Didn't like the fact of being over taken etc.. And him pile into the back of me
Some people just aren't cut out for it! Slow and ego don't work well together! 😂
@@RobGoesRacing haha correct... Funnly enough that was at the team sport sheff track
light taps happen all the time and are definitely going to happen in rental karting, DRIVING INTO SOMEONE AT FULL SPEED!!! IS DEFINATLEY WORTHY OF A BLACK FLAG. I agree with you completely mate, sure there were some instances where both could have raced better but that's inevitable, driving into someone is not. Also props to you seeing if the other guy was ok cause he seemed so confused.
This guy changes his kart so many times until he has the quickest one, while everyone else keeps theirs for the most part. You have no idea.
🤫 don't tell everyone! 🫣
He should've simply let you pass and followed you to learn the line you were running
1:41 My heart say - stop
a friendly tap, nudge nudge, is like sayin "hi friendo" in indoor karting... I am kind of appaled how the other guy escelated that so rapidly... I was driving way more aggresive with randoms and never had such incidents... however we usually give them a quick "do´s and dont´s" rundown here and also use blue flags to signal slower drivers to yield (they let us fight on track when they know/see we are not total amateurs) ... there probably are very few people on track with ego issues....
That driver was salty AF and condicted himself terribly. Terrible sportmanship. Cart drivers with an inflated ego are such babies. Some nice driving on your behalf
It's racing. These things happen in the highest form of racing ie F1. I get worked up too when I have someone running block all the time and you want to just pass the bugger etc etc.
I would straight up blacklist him because of his ego or say his anger issue
I can see why he's upset, I've tried the move around the outside on the left hander approaching the pit lane, it doesn't work. There's not enough space for 2 karts through there, the person on the outside will always end up in the wall. He may have felt that you squeezed him however nothing justifies the way he responded. What's meant to be a bit of fun is taken way too seriously by some people
Whilst it’s wrong what he did, it’s a public session and to be expected tbh. People get so frustrated when you’re seconds quicker and they think that they’re the nuts that’s usually what happens, I’m not saying it’s right what he’s done by any stretch but thats what I usually expect when doing public sessions hence why I stick to members nights now. Is there any reason why you don’t do members nights? They’re so much more enjoyable.
I do members nights also, but unfortunately my Mondays and Thursdays are usually busy at the moment - I'm rearranging things and it's getting better, but not quite there yet!
If getting punted is to be expected, then track management is doing something horribly, horribly wrong.
The way he was oversteering into slides in those corners where there was contact reminds me of absolute beginners who turn up sometimes where I drive. Of course the kart stops dead when they do that, and they’re likely to get a nudge from behind. And even if you had been knocking him on purpose, there’s no justification for ramming you. He should have been off for that.
Every single time I've karted, regardless of the location, they've had rules about slower carts and how they have to handle overtakes. I've seen folk get black listed for driving like what that pompous prick did to you. I'd have had a hard time not throwing hands, and my apology would have been something to the extent of, "I'm sorry I'm a better driver than you, and your tiny ego can't handle it."
i really wish i could go kart like you
You can brother. Get to a track and start doing it.
We can't really see It from his perspective, and would It have been the same result If you weren't best pals with one of the stewards?
In all motor sport there is going to be light contact from time to time no matter how talented you are but brodie literally slammed into you after he knew you obviously were going to take the inside on the other driver
I've had battles with non members that get a bit 'heated' usually down to them not leaving me space when trying to overtake which is what happened to you. Being in full kit definitely puts a target on your head. I've never had someone deliberately ram me like the guy in this video though that's unacceptable especially considering there was another kart right next to you which could have been involved.
Absolutely, I was pushed into the other kart, but the driver seemed ok, which is good 👍 I hadn't really considered the "being in full kit" side of things until this happened!
Cool suit
I have to say one thing, though... I like to go go-karting to just have fun and not care about lap times, you know, that's what these establishments are for. If I want to set record lap times I call the venue and ask if it is possible to do that and then I pay to have the track to myself. If I go racing with other people on the track I do not care about setting the fastest time or to compete with them, because I know most of them are just there to have fun with friends or by themselves. In my experience the people with racing gloves on tend to be very entitled and rude when a mistake happens. Not talking about you, though, just my general experience and you are the exception to that. But I just wish more people know that going karting with other people means you can't focus on your fastest lap times or trying to compete with the others.
Definately deliverate contact. I'd be pissed. I think your reaction was completely proportional to the situation.
Basically, if someone lets you by, thumbs up, anyone that battles you, middle finger, got it
You were clearly the faster driver. He got butt hurt about it.
Why is it always teamsport with the rage. lol
Its a non contact sport doe a reason Rob you didn't over react I've seen it at my local track
Yes, unfortunately it happens a little too often on public sessions!
average day at sheffield that recently... so many people driving like absoulte clowns. only time it seems to be clean is members night or the 50 laps races....
I've been lucky with the public sessions generally so far! I'm able to do more members events now, so hopefully things will work out! 👍
Your logo is actually a logo of a rc car brand named arrma
Thanks for pointing this out. I've just double checked, and whilst the double-r section is similar, they are in fact also very different. My logo is a custom made vector that I've hand drawn. Thanks for your concern 👍
Wow props for your drawing skills😁. And thanks for the answer😊. I will go karting with my friends in december and I'm actually pretty good at it I have beaten almost my whole family and my cousins😂😃. And ur content is interesting so a new sub and like is coming towards you😁😈🤣😅.
You are pretty good driver I hope we race 1v1 on day and as a reward for this amayzing video you get my sub and like.
3:18 You do touch him a bit. The only concern I have for you in this case are we sure you are cleared of him at 3:59. If not then that inner line towards the apex is his. Diving in like that can be dangerous for both. His reactions either way are trash. If he has a problem with you then take it with you only. Doing what he did creates a safety issue for everyone. Fortunately no one was hurt. On a brighter note seems like you are slighlty apexing early, mostly on the hair pins. Might gain time with the slightest of lifts and enter touch later and back in to stop the kart from sliding so much. Never driven these style of carts but between other racing forms I've done seems to prove beneficial. Good on you for getting your cool back quickly and checking if other driver is ok and then not creating a bigger issue. Best of luck in the future.
@offdabeatz - All good points. The thing to bear in mind with these indoor karts is that they have relatively low power and are heavy (to withstand all the inevitable knocks and bumps they must endure) so it is vital to keep up your momentum. Additionally, since there is often a large difference in abilities all racing together, you need to take in to account the unpredictability of some drivers. These factors hone certain skills and can result in some unconventional racing lines.
When you said 'He's off' I thought you meant he hit you and 'Ran off'.
I understand your passion however you already said it wasn't a professional race so you have to understand not everyone cares about the rules and will do anything to get ahead. Just keep racing your doing a great
Regardless if a light few taps took place or not, you still can then just drive into people. That's just plain dangerous and another driver was involved, who was a total innocent party in the whole thing. In my view it was racing taps, nothing put him off his line or impeded his racing - to retaliate, using a cart as a weapon should see them banned from the track.
Saw him wall check someone else as you finally got past, so that leads me to believe he is just a problematic driver. His driving is dangerous. Needs a nice shiny blackball.
In my country i would just kick is butt. No Marshall would make me apologive for a grumpy slow driver..... Life os tought
Love your video but please pop in the webcam like 1-2s before you start talking. I get lost in the beauty of racing and then you jumpscare me haha
Hi rob, its Skye. he has no reason to be like that on track, as many oyhers have said when uou have a full suit you get targetded at more ect. i can say so myself i did a public session and had a maybe 20-30 year old lad come and try upto square upto me. and with me being 14 its a big situation. i went to apologise after bumping him and almost turning him sideways as he came across into my line on the long straight and it turned his kart. - he did manage to keep hold of it. but he threated me ect and told me to keep crying even though i wasnt 😂😂 anyways you did great, i would of reacted the same dont worry. and also ryan b is such a nice lad, i see him when i do monday night socials and i think his say was reasonable
Hey Skye! Some people are just mental - egos definitely need to be left in the changing rooms. Scary someone would square up to you! Ryan is awesome, but I think all the Sheffield staff are to be fair! 👍
Appreciate the kind words, glad you're ok after that incident though Skye
There is nothing you did wrong all you did was slightly bump into him a few times and then he goes rage mode and rams into you
If he hit you it was only bc you spun off
you had the apex - not your fault
Don't think you did anything wrong. I would have done the same as it a problem people just trying to ram you into the wall think you should slow down/brake as it they dont need to leave you room when your next to them. My biggest issue when you go to karting and you do the brief is that they never tell people to leave room if they is a kart next to you. This cause a lot of problem due to some people not know the best way around the track and just move all over the place just to stop you from getting pass and shutting the door on you as if you should stop.
how fast would you say those go carts go if the track had a decent straight away?
Teamsport claim a top speed of 40mph
@@RobGoesRacing Ha I bet on that track you cant hit top speed can ya? RIP to that
So from your view you are ahead of kart 10 kart 14 was alongside you on the outside before it became the inside line at the first corner which i belive was letting you through so kart 10 is at fault
I'm not familiar with the regulations to truly say who is in the wrong, but that big hit looked like it was on purpose As for your contact, if it was any, looked minimal and due to him blocking the way. Again, my only experience with kart racing is mario kart, so I'm ignorant here, but even I know blocking in actual racing is a no go.
U literally put the finger
It wS go kart 10
I'm not a racer but anyone that drives I to someone like car 10 did should have at least a warning. Little taps like you did are sometimes unavoidable but blatent running into someone is not on.
I went go karting today at team sport Leeds it was great and we had another drive the first session with me and my dad he was the quicker driver and we both saw that I sped up but when I saw he was quicker than me I moved over to wave him through sadly I didn’t wave to say go through but it’s just courtesy u was the quickest driver between the two of u so he should of let u through the bumping into u purposely Is what annoys me he should of just let you through dangerous from him
I like turtles
thats targeting
Indeed it was!
I wouldn’t be to worried mate it’s only a hobby, nothing serious
Blatantly slamming into someone is uncalled for no matter what, yeah they're little carts but someone can still get seriously hurt driving like that, that said I don't think you were wrong