@MadebyJimbob

2024 ж. 27 Сәу.
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I was chatting with a friend and MadeByJimbob came up in conversation. We watched Arguments Against Atheism Ep. 3 together and could not believe what we witnessed. We were absolutely shocked he put that up as a serious video. I sat down shortly after and re-listened to it and provided responses to much of what he has stated. After listening to this, I am not impressed with you MadeByJimbob. You are welcome to join us on our discord and I would be happy to run my Atheist Presuppositional Apologetics script on you to elucidate to you the natural and special revelations that you have already received but have been simply rejecting in your unrighteousness.
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  • This is perfect @taco You're responses are spot on. Everything you do is great!

    @thinkingsapien6338@thinkingsapien633816 күн бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos16 күн бұрын
  • I'm reticent to comment as I'm an ex theist with a scholarly background in Theology and very little in philosophy. But I appreciate what you're doing here and I'm adding a comment for the algorithm. 😊

    @DumbleDad@DumbleDad2 күн бұрын
    • Thank you so much!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos2 күн бұрын
  • Ever since the Duggars, going by Jimbob as a given name is a bad move imo

    @babooshcat4129@babooshcat412917 күн бұрын
    • LOL

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
  • Jimbob's argument isn't meant to convince anyone but people desperately clinging to an idea they already know is ridiculous.

    @SaintJermania@SaintJermania18 күн бұрын
    • That's why I run Atheist Presuppositional Apologetics. Because it gets through the nonsense to them.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • Exactly. He’s straight-up making shit up and counting on his viewers to not check out what he’s saying.

      @guitarista67@guitarista6716 күн бұрын
  • 18:00 His cartoonish overlay depicting the kind of atheist commenters below his videos .... is basically your avatar :p #irony

    @Andrew_O@Andrew_O18 күн бұрын
    • I wish I would have caught that when I was making the video lol.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • I liked and subscribed 💜

    @GodlessGirl@GodlessGirl8 күн бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos8 күн бұрын
  • Maaah, he's pressuping me again!

    @i_assume@i_assume17 күн бұрын
    • LOL

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
  • Thanks for the video.

    @Marniwheeler@Marniwheeler18 күн бұрын
    • You are so welcome! Make sure to subscribe if you haven't as there is so much more fun philosophy on my channel.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • This guy is a theistic Presupp enjoyer 😂

    @sync2597@sync259718 күн бұрын
    • That is what I have heard.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • Yo. You should call in to his show and hash it out with him.

    @BigTP3doHunter@BigTP3doHunter17 күн бұрын
    • We are currently at 4 additional videos covering his material. I have committed to one additional video covering his content for each bobble that comes into here and asks me to go on his platform. He is a member of discord.gg/politics and is welcome to chat with me whenever. I am online way too much.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
  • Did he seriously say atheist have faith to believe in things that are only within their mind and not empirical, but then assume its okay when christians use faith in their mind to believe in god? 🤣 How does anyone believe what he says?

    @Erik-hi@Erik-hi17 күн бұрын
    • That is exactly what he said.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
  • good stuff man

    @coachdiesel9363@coachdiesel936318 күн бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • Make sure to subscribe if you haven't already because there is so much more great fun philosophy on my channel!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • Good stuff

    @anthonyzav3769@anthonyzav376918 күн бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • Make sure to subscribe if you haven't already as there is so much more great fun philosophy on my channel!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • Solipsism is "dropping trou" because it ends the convo and we can't play in our sandbox anymore? How about going where the logic leads no matter whether we like the consequences or not, instead of pouting it takes away our sandbox to play in? Hmm? EMPTY HUSK!

    @Dizerner@Dizerner18 күн бұрын
    • Solipsism is idiocity, when they fail to counter an argument we make they pull the solip card and go "haha checkmate" despite not realising how idiotic it is

      @sync2597@sync259718 күн бұрын
    • I addressed that in the video quite clearly.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@sync2597 Very well put.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • How can an atheist go where the logic leads when they can never tell if they are thinking logically??

      @JoBo301@JoBo30118 күн бұрын
    • @@JoBo301 how can you even make this argument without pre assuming your logic goes anywhere.

      @sync2597@sync259718 күн бұрын
  • You exist therefore information exists. Every atom in the universe is information. Logic is a process by which we discover, investigate and confirm assumptions or theories about that information.

    @Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic@Mr.PeabodyTheSkeptic18 күн бұрын
    • LOL so he was just going to go into a misunderstanding for that so he left it out.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • 1. Every atom in the universe is information. Wrong, information is data+semantics. An atom doesn’t have within its structure the information “atom”. Information is never identical to the matter it’s attributed to. 2. Logic is a process through which we discover. Incorrect, if a process precedes discovery then the process itself must be discovered, which assumes in this case what’s in question, logic. The laws of logic are not in themselves processes.

      @MadebyJimbob@MadebyJimbob18 күн бұрын
    • @@MadebyJimbob LOL. I addressed logic in the video. I never understood why theists get so befuddled with the term information.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
    • @@realBreakfasttacos you made an assertion about logic in the video. I will be addressing your assertion on Wednesday. “Theists get befuddled” isn’t a counter to my position, I’ll say it again, Information is never identical to the matter or phenomena it’s attributed to. Now, if you disagree with the statement, tell me one instance where information is identical to the referent. No need to do a psychological analysis of the theist.

      @MadebyJimbob@MadebyJimbob17 күн бұрын
    • @@MadebyJimbob I'll be waiting to make a response :). I have committed to 1 additional video for each bobble asking me to come on your show, we are at 4. Thanks for the responses, I look forward to seeing your video.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
  • Your dead on right about Jimbo lumping all Christians together when it suits him and then make distinctions when it helps his stretched arguments. Jimbo also freely slanders other faith la like when he claimed Buddhism is dualistic and has no morals when the Buddhist word for ethics is literally termed " foundation (sila)' and they have many teachings they label " non dualistic '

    @danielhopkins296@danielhopkins29618 күн бұрын
    • oh! nice!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • If you enjoy this video please like, comment and subscribe!

    @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • I am 100% not a philosopher nor would I pretend to be. However, when Christians start down this path, I simply pointed out the multitude of examples from their own Bible where God provided *EMPIRICAL* evidence of his existence. If their god could do it 3000+ years ago, why not today?

    @thedude0000@thedude000018 күн бұрын
    • Very good point!

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • I can see why you're not a philosopher 😅😅. "Could" "would", like God plays by your rules...

      @redwojak5182@redwojak518218 күн бұрын
    • @@redwojak5182 yet, you did not address my point.

      @thedude0000@thedude000018 күн бұрын
    • ​@redwojak5182 god doesn't even play by his own rules. He gave tons of commandments and then told his people to do things that violated said commandments. God also talked a lot about forgiveness, but where was his forgiveness before he flooded the earth? Plagued all of Egypt for 1 man's actions? The tribes he had slaughtered? Gods list of hypocrisy is long.

      @Erik-hi@Erik-hi17 күн бұрын
    • @@Erik-hi After my account of knowledge in this video they know their god doesn't exist which is the funny part if they watched the video fully.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
  • Just my subjective experience, but I've yet to see anyone beat jimbob or especially Jay Dyer in a debate on the subject... I've sure seen a lot of 'response videos' to them though... I'm newer to Jimbob so it's possible, but Dillahunty was way out of his league with Jay, and Dr Malpass could barely keep up but was noticeably the best opponent so far. My recommendation to atheists is to actually learn TAG if you wanna make the critique. It's shocking how few people are able to grasp it.

    @ZechariahAhl-su9ns@ZechariahAhl-su9ns18 күн бұрын
    • I'm actually the Premier Atheist Presuppositional Apologist.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@realBreakfasttacos If you're the papa you should call in. Should be fun

      @ZechariahAhl-su9ns@ZechariahAhl-su9ns18 күн бұрын
    • @@ZechariahAhl-su9ns Someone like you is exactly why I made the video. He is welcome to chat with me on discord.gg/politics. I would be happy to run atheist presuppositional apologetics on him

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@ZechariahAhl-su9ns I think I'm gonna make a video commenting on one of his every time one of you guys asks me to go on his show. My platform is discord.gg/politics. I am literally sitting in vc right now available to chat with.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@realBreakfasttacos Did you invite them to call? Idrc, I'm just saying that if you're motivated enough to watch, re-watch and add commentary, then post a video of him, shouldn't you have the motivation to call in to one of their shows or invite them on? How are they going to hop in your discord right now if they don't know you exist.

      @ZechariahAhl-su9ns@ZechariahAhl-su9ns18 күн бұрын
  • 9:27 if every thing you know is wrong you still hold knowledge it's just it all wrong . 🤔

    @odinallfarther6038@odinallfarther603818 күн бұрын
    • I was just explaining the standard necessary and sufficient conditions for knowledge in the current world we live in.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • Wait do you think truth is created or discovered?

    @zGriz@zGriz18 күн бұрын
    • Truth is just that which coheres with reality.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@realBreakfasttacos what’s reality

      @zGriz@zGriz18 күн бұрын
    • @@zGrizin this context it is something like the things that exist and the systems that operate around those existent things.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@realBreakfasttacos Q1:How do you reconcile the emergence of knowledge from non-knowledge, and how do you establish existence from non-existence within the framework of your definition of reality?

      @zGriz@zGriz18 күн бұрын
    • @@zGriz I explained knowledge in the video above. Existence is just a part of the nature of energy. There is no existence from non-existence, that is what theists think lol.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • Would love to see you hop on a MBJB stream. We could always use a good piñata. Always hilarious when we see people without a philosophical background, such as yourself, coming on the show.

    @MrWesford@MrWesford17 күн бұрын
    • We are currently at 4 additional videos covering his material. I have committed to one additional video covering his content for each bobble that comes into here and asks me to go on his platform. He is a member of discord.gg/politics and is welcome to chat with me whenever. I am online way too much.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos17 күн бұрын
  • There claim is there metaphysical god is physical because it is metaphysically possible , the imagined/ metaphysical is real /physical.

    @odinallfarther6038@odinallfarther603818 күн бұрын
    • Are you saying broad logical possibility or nomological possibility?

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@realBreakfasttacos sorry I don't know what that means , they don't get that metaphysics is thought not the physical and you can't think some thing into the physical world . Philosophy is like word spells if they can logically prove a god is possible using metaphysics and philosophy hey presto could be therefore is . At the end of the day the omni god is a self contradiction . Can do every thing except some some things some times all is gods will except for the bad bits . The list is endless .

      @odinallfarther6038@odinallfarther603818 күн бұрын
    • @@odinallfarther6038 Metaphysics is not synonymous with non-physical or supernatural. Metaphysics is simply speculation about natural reality that goes beyond what scientific investigation can currently confirm. It is a far reaching branch of philosophy.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@realBreakfasttacos I think I know what you are getting at but maybe not the first book was physics that which is his second second book metaphysics after physics or not physical ,thought , granted it's become the science of thought metaphysics deals with the realm of thought .

      @odinallfarther6038@odinallfarther603818 күн бұрын
    • @@odinallfarther6038 Metaphysics in modern philosophy is simply speculation about natural reality that goes beyond what scientific investigation can currently confirm.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
  • man you guys are always hiding behind response videos too scared to debate any of these guys... and this is categorically true because they have open debates every 2-3 days. call in and be a man.

    @asetr3w45@asetr3w4518 күн бұрын
    • But Jimbob made a video debunking atheism.. So he was scared first, by your own logic.

      @Marniwheeler@Marniwheeler18 күн бұрын
    • Every time one of you jimbobbles asks me to come on his show im making another one of these videos on jimbobs videos. We are currently at 3 response videos.

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@Marniwheeler Very good point. I'm also on discord.gg/politics most days available in the God Ain't Real: Prove Me Wrong or Religion VCs

      @realBreakfasttacos@realBreakfasttacos18 күн бұрын
    • @@Marniwheeler adressing a world view is not the same as adressing someone's argument🤣 dummy

      @asetr3w45@asetr3w4518 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Marniwheeler debating a world view is different then making a response to a guys video.the channel owner is deleting comments now too.

      @asetr3w45@asetr3w4518 күн бұрын
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