Absurd Reasons This Campground Refused Our Stay (1st Time EVER!)
This is the FIRST time we've been FLAT OUT denied a campground reservation. After all the email back and forth with the campground manager, it was pretty CRAZY to find out why this campground (after reaching out and inviting us), then turned us away.
0:00 Intro
0:36 travel planning
1:41 The Emails
3:29 Pet Info
4:24 Arvie
6:13 The Saga Continues
8:00 Embarrassment
10:45 Fifty-Five plus for families?
12:00 Age Rules
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Have you been to Milton Heights (converted farm) near Toronto? I made the mistake of dismissing reviews about ridiculous rules. They call themselves "family oriented" but they spy on you in a creepy way, censor websites (my daughter couldn't even log in to a video game) and fine guests for just about anything you can think of. The internet censorship was a first. I've dealt with weak signal, low bandwidth, throttling etc. This place BLOCKS websites. I'm not talking about adult content. Besides the gaming website, my daughter couldn't browse to Spotify, Netflix or social media! They claim their service can't handle streaming speeds. I know for a fact that isn't true. Felt like I drove into communist China instead of Canada.
Their park, they make rules. Why does that bother you so much, you have to make a big deal about it. They don't want your old rig. Sorry find different place. 😢
I think they wanted publicity from the reaction video but you did good by not saying the name of the park because they don’t deserve the publicity
We’re traveling with a 2011 well maintained class A. I think my reply would have been: “Since you operate such an exclusive RV ‘resort’, we would not feel welcome there. I will definitely take my business elsewhere and urge others to do the same.”
Great reply
Perfect reply!
Lots of these RV resorts are nothing but parking lots with hook-ups. We stayed at one, once. Not for us.
Well except they've already denied your business so taking it elsewhere is your only option.
It happened to us also in NH, Turtle Kraul. RV cannot be more than 10 yrs old. We have a BEAUTIFULLY well kept 2015 Tiffin Phaeton. Oh well.
As a RV Park Manager I can only say, Sorry that that happed to you. So many parks are like that today. Our park we do not have age restrictions just condition restrictions "No Junkers" we allow dogs, we charge extra for them, however not for cats. We would be Proud to have you all stay at Our Park. Snake River RV Resort, Homedale, ID.
Thanks so much!
Oh I want to go there!
Love to have you here! @@sandydemars8100
I don't understand why parks charge for dogs, you don't charge for kids so why do you charge for dogs, kids use the facilities dogs don't, they live in my house and I clean up after them, as principle I wouldn't stay in a park if they charged a fee for a dog. I'm 10 miles from PA and I don't camp at PA state parks for the same reason, I asked SP representative why and it's because people don't clean up after their dogs, it's always somebody else ruining it for others PEOPLE CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR DOGS.
Loving Snake River RV Resort, Homedale, ID. God bless!
We were asked to leave an RV park due to the age of the rig. We moved back to Texas from NV and were looking for a property in a very small resort community in the Hill Country and it had been recommended to us by a family member. They reserved us a nice spot over the phone based on our referral. Once we arrived, they said we could stay the night, but would have to leave the next day. We were livid. No other places were available at the time, not even the state park nearby. Luckily, we stopped in at the local VFW and they offered to let us park as long as we wanted, no charge. Good people still exist.
That is bullshit! But glad someone let you stay somewhere
When asked for a picture of my 25 yo motorhome, I sent a pic of Lucille Ball's Long, Long, Trailer. They welcomed us with humor.
Great idea!!!
love that movie
😂 LOVE IT ❣️
Yep. We were denied due to our 2008 Fleetwood Terrace 36T in Fairhope, AL. Now that we have upgraded to a 2019 Tiffin Allegro RED 33AA, we are denying them the chance to meet us.
I love this response. 😂
lol lol
Our 5th wheel is 2 years old but when we are requested to send pictures and state the age of the RV...we just move along! For the same reason I won't live in an HOA, I refuse to give my money to a discriminating business.
Smart!
I agree 100%
Same, 2022.. 20 foot bumper pull and they wanted pics.. Yeah ..no F off.
@@Timw927 It's easy to spot the trailer park dwellers
ya you say that now. But when you pull into a campground full of crackhead RV's you'll understand why
Decades ago our truck camper broke down. On a weekend. The campground, in Fairbanks, AK, even helped manually push the thing into a spot and allowed us to stay the weekend. Monday AM, we called a tow truck and were towed to the local Ford dealer for repairs. Simpler times. Helpful people.
Different state, different people!
Alaskans are great
We started to bring our two dogs and two cats with us camping. We have a 40' fifth wheel and whenever we book, we make sure to tell them we have 2 dogs and 2 cats. Every time we've mentioned the cats, we've been told, "Oh, we don't usually count cats since they rarely go outside". It seems real odd that they would count the cats when, literally, NO ONE else in the campground is even going to see them. I'd be surprised if there aren't other campers who do have cats inside their RVs and the campground is just not aware of it.
Don't forget, there are people out there that have no lives, and do nothing but watch other people and look for things to snitch. Cats tend to hang out in windows. Snitches like to look into people's windows and other campsites, constantly watching. If a snitch sees a cat hanging out in a window, you know they're going to call the campsite weirdos that run the place and cause problems.
I think when an RV park has shity catch 22 procedures, you should not be shy about naming the park. A few snooty RVs might appreciate the and head for the park. I think most of us would avoid them like the plague. Keep up the work. HAPPY New Year
Our goal wasn't to disparage the campground but rather bring attention to outdated policies that need changing. PLUS not wanting to give them ANY publicity 🤨
@@GratefulGlamperI think another email is in order… Send them a link to this video! They might think you would call them out… but you have been more gracious then I might have been🤷♀️
@@GratefulGlamper That's good of you. But they obviously don't watch your channel. Maybe someone will tell them.
New to your channel. Since they reached out originally and had policy’s such as vehicle age, family and pet restrictions, do you think they were looking for confrontation resulting in free publicity? Just a thought. I like how you handled it and did not share their name.
Oh, I would definitely disparage them, I hope they go out of business!, I have ran into the same pet count issues, seems they follow a generic policy they got from another campground and not from a experienced incident. How ridiculous! Love watching you guys! Best of luck
You don’t want to stay at this park. They are showing you how difficult they would be during your entire stay. Thank them for warning you about how rigid they are and move on.
Exactly
Agree!
I think this park is showing why they can’t get the RV ‘ers to visit.
Dodged that bullet.
She would the first to complain about being sandwiched between two nasty old patched up RV's. She whined to the world about this issue while she included a sponsor in the video. She isn't helping you she is making thousands off you. She showed you that she is difficult and willing to post a one sided agreement and you gobbled the bait like a large mouth bass. Hope this help you navigate through this not what is always seems world of making money off of unassuming sheep.
I love older motorhomes. I'm a full timer in Canada. I've had a 1984 Class A and am currently in a 1996 Class A. After running into the age rule for the motorhome one too many times many years ago, I flat out gave up on using RV parks ever. I haven't used an RV park in years and don't intend to in the future. I am totally self sufficient and have saved thousands of dollars over the years. Hopefully this is the last time you run into the age rule with the motorhome.
Thanks for sharing!
Do national and state parks not let you stay ? I'm trying to get my dad to restore his 87 winnebego. And I want him to make it look like the original ( orange yellow green etc lol )
I am a full timer in a 38 year old class A. It is a one-off build Country Coach diesel pusher with a turbo Cat 340 and driving it is so fun. SOLID walnut throughout (NO veneer or fiberboard), Corian countertops with walnut inlays etc. It sits on a Gillig bus chassis and has only 70,000 miles. Very well cared for with no oil or hydraulic leaks. It is a beautiful classic inside and out . TRY finding an RV park in Reno, Nv and be honest when you tell them your Coach is 38 years old. I keep striking out because of their "policies" but they never detail why they turn me down. I'm sure it's the dreaded 10 year rule. I'd put my CLASSIC COACH up against the NEWER KRAP that is being made anytime! (P.S.- the man that started Country Coach went on to build Prevost, and we all know how nice Prevost's are).
We met a couple, at a campground that had just done a major remodel on a Class A. It was pointed out by the guy that helped them that they even upgraded the paint job by a few years! For our trailer it’s mistaken for a year or two newer because we had damage done to the lower edge and they suggested using the lower skirt design over that area, but finish it by making the rest match. Turns out those skirts were a couple of years newer.
So long as your camper passes as inspection that is all that should matter.
It sounds like their marketing person probably sent out invites to any RV KZhead channel but failed to actually pay attention who they were sending to. Your RV looks so much newer than it is. I agree....if you drove it in, you would be able to drive it out in case you all had to evacuate. As far as the cats, you were honest with them and got punished for it. By the way....I love your channel and have learned so much from you!
Thank you! 💙
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Yes, I think of all the post-Covid brand new RV's that get to their first destination, then break down, not starting, levelers won't retract, sliders won't retract, etc.
"...you were honest with them and got punished for it." When a peace officer pulls us over for speeding, do we expect them to let us off because we admit it? Sense of entitlement is rampant in today's society. Acknowledge the issue and be prepared to deal with the consequences (like Charity did when offering to have someone kitty-sit). Then if someone shows grace and mercy we can be thankful for it! But expecting someone to ignore the rules for us is simply wrong. Charity wasn't "punished" for it, and she shouldn't feel she is being punished. She was expected to follow the rules like everybody else. That, in itself, is a form of respect shown to Charity! It is a shady thing to hide in the shadows, make deals under the table, and then hope nobody notices. Do we break the rules when we think others won't notice? Transparency and integrity are rare things these days. Kudos to Charity!
I completely understand if you have an RV that is duct taped together or a very big eye sore, but it really rubs me when parks exclude RVs because they only want newer RVs in their park!! If you have a well maintained and clean unit, you shouldn’t be restricted!! They are certainly NOT worth staying at! Happy New Year!!🎉❤
It's as if those with newer RV's have 'new' money! The face value of a dollar is the same whether new or much older, so turning away customers truly is not a good business proposition! As many have said, if completely unkept, that's a different matter! Our 15 year old coach is well kept, to where I've had people ask if it's new! But the 10 year rule some have, is truly discriminatory, and not a place I would want to spend my money in anyway!
I’ve been to several/many camp grounds were people were living full time (or at least the camper is always there) and they start to make the place look trashy.
Thing is, the overwhelming majority of camps are private businesses and they are entirely within their rights to refuse service so long as it’s in accordance with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Act only protects people based on race, nationality, etc. In other words, the businesses are the entitled party in this scenario. Potential customers are entitled to absolutely nothing.
@@I_Am_SciCurious This is true, but the campground invited them. They didn't even know this campground existed.
Our 5th wheel is a 1998. Travel all over the country with it. Never been turned away even pulling it with a rusty truck. We have started boondocking, helps save on costs, and you meet a lot of great people.
The "elite" attitude of campgrounds will not change until it hits their pocketbook. I totally support revealing all the good and any of the bad that is encountered with a campground, especially during the reservation process. Tell us who the "good" ones are and never omit the problems. That way we can decide where to spend our money! Many thanks for a great channel!
I have to say I also think age restrictions are outdated. I have a newer class A and was stranded on our first trip when electrical issues caused battery drain to the point we couldn’t go anywhere till it was fixed. Age is no indication of reliability. So sorry you had this experience.
Florida has age restrictions galore.
We live in our 2004 fifth wheel and have been full time since 2009. . It is in excellent condition. I always read the campground rules before I book a reservation. I will not book at any park with HOA rules. In 1972 a full timer told me the best parks are old fishing camps. That holds true to this day. Safe travels.
This is all craziness! First of all, we traveled with three cats for years (and we are now down to two) and we have never had to hide any of this information from anyone before. Sometimes, there has been a limit of 2 pets, but I have always mentioned that there are three cats and no one has mentioned anything at all about them. One of the cats loves to spend time outside on a leash when we are with him; and they both enjoy going for a ride in their pet stroller. I don't see how anyone can even begin to compare the impact of dogs versus the impact of cats at a campground! The age of our RV came into play at an RV campground near Portland, Oregon a few years ago. When making reservations, they didn't even ask about the age of it; but I'd heard rumors that they had such a policy. Not wanting any last-minute surprises, I brought up the subject and was immediately told we could not stay there. I offered to send current photos, but there were NO exceptions, I was told. But in a funny twist of fate, we had friends staying there that wanted us to come visit them, and they vouched for our RV (sight unseen, by the way) and the owners welcomed us with open arms! At this point I'd like to mention that it was the worst RV campground we've ever stayed in. The sites were practically on top of one another, the campground itself was wedged between two freeways so the noise was constant, and one fellow worked on his RV in the very early hours of the day, depriving us of any sleep. We are done with membership campgrounds. Sorry, Thousand Trails- after paying through the nose for many years, we were so disappointed that your Preserves began looking more like homeless camps than the lovely sites you once had. Coast to Coast left us "Orphan Members" after our last campground no longer wanted to be part of their program, and we were offered the "opportunity" to buy a new camp membership for over $11,000, across the country where we would never think to camp. We belong to one "smallish" campground group, and have about 8 campgrounds where we can travel; but the owners are such stingy jerks and treat their members terribly that they are losing members at a rapid pace.
Hubby and I are planning our 2024 RVing schedule as new RV owners. I am glad that you have brought this issue to our attention. Thanks for all your tips/tricks/musthave's and such!!!! Love it!!
Glad it was helpful!
Be sure to avoid this place. Oh yeah, no way to since it wasn't identified.
Age discrimination should never be a 100% deciding factor. How many times have brand new rigs failed! It sounds to me they reached out blindly and had to back peddle when they realized you weren't the "demographic" they want to draw in. Shame on them
So true! Brand new isn’t immune to issues either.
I work at a campground The issues this last year were from USER errors! It doesn't matter the year of the RV it's people thinking they know what they are doing and not willing to ask for help! Hands down
Insurance companies are requiring this sometimes, also some Burroughs, counties etc (because of homeless).
They can’t make different rules for different people. THAT is how they end up getting sued.
@@scottmichaels6854That's true, but they invited them to visit their rv park free of charge to promote their business.
I had to shake my head over your experience! While we haven’t been turned away, a Thousand Trails campground in Fort Myers almost turned us away, upon check in, because our Siberian Husky weighs 85 pounds and their weight limit was 80#! We had to bring him to the office, so they could meet him and it took them 20 seconds to see he’s mostly fur (like yours), and he won them over with all his kisses!! But, the kicker to this place is they required you to fill out paperwork, provide a doggie poop sample and pay $25 for an “analysis” fee.They send the sample away and IF they find doggie poo not picked up, they submit the offending sample for analysis. If it’s deemed from your dog, they have a significant “fine”! WTH? Crazy people run this campground!!!! But, it doesn’t stop there. We inherited a condo in Clearwater Beach FL that we offered for use to my niece and her husband, while they got established, after their move from Long Island. When my MIL bought the condo, it was pet friendly, but over the years, they changed the bylaws. My niece has a service dog for disability support and the HOA board did everything in their power to make their life miserable. They accused her dog of using the elevator as its pee spot (later determined to be an elderly adult confused male), accused her husband of not cleaning up after their dog, even though my niece and service dog had not been on site for 3 weeks AND the size of the deposited poo was clearly from a dog much larger than theirs! The final straw was when they approached my niece and asked her to use the stairs vs. elevator to our 4th store condo! She had the best response! She said if I could WALK 4 flights of stairs, I wouldn’t need a service dog! There were so many more incidents I can’t list them all here. We threatened legal action as their abuse was abhorrent and illegal. They left and we sold the unit. FL is lovely, but any HOA or administrative group run by older individuals seem to have an axe to grind and have lost any sense of reality. Sorry you experienced the “rejection” but you indirectly won the campground lottery not staying there!!
What an awful experience. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience
A group of monkeys is called a congress, a herd of hyenas is called a cackle, a gathering of Karens is called an HOA... 'nuff said. :)
This is why I'm avoiding HOA's in looking for a second home. Way too many Karen's and power-hungry people out there on these HOAs.
Why would that upset you if you clean up after your dog? There's a reason they had to resort to those measures. Don't like it, go enjoy the wonders of an rv campground that doesn't mind dogs pooping everywhere.
@@gooffy120Insightful Ken. Or is it Karen?
Expose them and urge business to go elsewhere.
YES I wanna know which RV park in Tampa does this! I don’t want to stay there!!! If they don’t share it then I will avoid all parks in and around Tampa. There are always harvest hosts in that area.
I’ve been refused a stay in a campground for age and no bathroom, I have a professionally converted camper van. I asked about using the bathrooms at the campground, they didn’t want anyone using them. Very frustrating, I understand your situation.
My wife and I just returned from a 4300 mile trip in our 2004 30b Winnebago Sightseer. I helped out more folks with fairly new RVs and our unit did the whole trip without any problems whatsoever. I think these parks should start rethinking some of these policy's and look on a more case by case solution. We are both in our 70s and your experience would cause a reall hardship towards someone like ourselves. Thanks and wishing y'all happy travels. D&M
Actually, looking back, it's a valuable experience with the conclusion that it's best to stay away from a campground like this. Our RV is also 20 years old, well maintained, and frankly better than newer RVs with the poor quality produced today. FYI : if a 20 year (or so) old motorhome is well maintained is something you can most times see easily from the outside. If it's reasonable clean and everything looks in good order incl. tires, lights, etc. it's a very strong sign the owner keeps engine & chassis also in top running condition. Newer RVs (e.g. built after 2008) often have worse quality and new RV owners often fail to to the regular upkeep work and often think the rig is newer so what can go wrong.
It’s not really about the RV age, their just trying to filter the people to the kind they want. The ones with deep pockets…
40 years ago there were many campgrounds that accepted pets and any RV age, just NOT kids….lol. I was 12 at the time, and remember my parents searching for campgrounds in Nevada and Arizona that would accept “little old (relatively new, actually) me”. At the time, this restriction was unheard of in Canada. That’s my little story about RV park restrictions…
We typically mention all of our pets... since we have a German Shepherd, a mix breed with some Pit in him and a cat. Funny enough, we have run into MORE issues with the German Shepherd, than the mix or our cat. As for the age restrictions... I feel like those should really kick in for long term residency situations. Even if you have a vintage RV, if you were able to drive it in and park it, like you said... there's a reasonable expectation that it's driving out in a week as well. Typically when I see RV's that I would wonder if they'd crumble to bits if moved an inch... they're ALL long term stay situations. We're a travel nurse family, so we don't bounce around a lot... typically it's a 3-6 month commitment! I 100% agree that it's insane to think I'm going to just up and buy a relatively new RV, every 8-10 years!
Several years ago a gentleman pulled into a 55+ park with a new 36 foot camper. This park had a rule that 36 feet is the maximum length of any RV. He paid and parked his unit, unloaded his stuff and settled in. That night while he slept a member of the board of directors of the park measured the man's RV and because he had welded a bracket to the rear bumper to hold his Igloo cooler it was now a 36 foot and one inch camper. The board member the next morning turned in his findings to the park manager and demanded that she refund the man's money and ordered her to tell him he must leave! He left. We were shocked.
OMgoodness! That is CRAZY!
Wow, that's a place no one should want to stay at
As an owner of a well maintained Class A motorhome that is stored indoors which is 2 years older than yours, and was 14 years old when I bought it in 2016, I agree with you entirely on this 10 / 15 / 20 year old rule mentality. I feel the chances of my coach not being able to leave under its own power a few days after arriving is no greater than say for a 5 year old coach. In our 20,000 thousand miles of travel around the US over the last 7 years, we have experienced exactly one incident where we were not able to leave a campground as planned (starter solenoid failed), this was repaired within a few hours after a trip to a nearby auto parts store, and is something that could happen on a newer RV as well.
Grab your jumper cables and start it that way in an emergency/ kicked out situation.
If a hurricane is coming, you tend to have about a week or so to get your RV out. And then purchasing a large motorhome is a long term investment. Not something your going to trade in every few years. Unless you can buy a $200,000 plus Class A outright, your going to be financing it for close to 10 years. Don't know how many years typical RV financing is for, so just guessing.
@@trevorbryant4360 As someone who has lived through multiple major hurricanes, I can tell you that you really don't know where they are going to hit a week out, you just know there is a chance of one. At a week out the uncertainty cone often covers 400-500 miles of coastline, while the actual intense part of the storm may be 30-40 miles across. You only really know where it will hit at 24-48 hours out, at which point the winds are likely already gusting to the point where driving a high profile vehicle is dangerous itself. As to financing 20-30 years is common on RV's
@@MrPenguinLife Still, if your in hurricane season, you will want to maintain your RV so you can still leave if needed. The 20-30 year financing really makes these age restrictions even more dumber. Think the campground is really using hurricanes or age as an excuse too protect a "high-end" campground image.
Why would the campground be legally liable if a person's motorhome is mechanically unable to leave in the event of a hurricane? That makes no sense. The campground would be liable for its negligence only. It is up to the motorhome owner to make certain that their vehicle is properly maintained and operational.
We had a very similar thing happen at several campgrounds in Florida. Our pull behind was new enough but our tow vehicle was older and they turned us down leaving us the only place to stay was a rest area on the interstate. The tow vehicle was in extremely good shape for a 1998 GMC conversion van with 60k on it.
Have a 2006 class A. Have taken very good care of it. If I must say so myself still looks new. We met some friends at a park in FL with the age restrictions, the park looked at it and gave us a site. Our friends had a brand spanking new one, not 3 months old, and 3 things went wrong with theirs, slide wound only come out so far and stop, water issues, and lastly it wouldn’t start when it was time to leave. Ours, not one problem! Our friends told us “ don’t get rid of your rig. It is built better and will last longer than the new ones!” Apparently they have had nothing but issues with their $400,000.+ unit. I understand not wanting a beat up held together with bailing wire one in the park. But like you stated the majority of us can afford to get a new RV every 10-15 years. I must say though that if this is a trend this will be our last rig. We will not play those snooty games. Keep up the great videos and information!
Yep, RV age restriction has been used to be declined us twice over the years. Our RV is now a 23 year old Prevost bus. We are visited by "orbiters" (people checking out our bus walking around it usually while taking pictures) at most campgrounds we stay in. We've had a few campgrounds that initially declined, but we sent a picture of the bus and were accepted. Sometimes a manager became involved. It is the campground right to set rules. It is our right to go somewhere else.
Of course all places have rules nobody is disputing that, however on their approach those rules should've been made clear and they should've been upfront with them about same said rules in the very beginning. The amount of back pedaling they did and the unnecessary stress they caused is what is being questioned here. Places like these are just glorified HOAs.
Don't folks realize a 23 year old Prevost is built better than many of these new rigs on the road today? I have a 1979 Shasta Class C, I'm the fourth owner and I love my old gal. She gets lots of attention because she has custom paint and lots of upgrades, compliments of my father, the second owner. I have never been turned away but I also don't stay in resorts, I'm a small Mom and Pop campground kind of gal or I boondock since I'm self contained. I know my classic RV isn't everyone's taste but those that do definitely let me know when they see me out and about traveling and it's a great feeling.
You are believing everything she said. She not only disrespected humanity by uploading a whiny child reaction video but also including a sponsor and you don't even recognize that she played you. The story could be all fiction. It is about the sponsor and making money. Who else is fooling you in your life that is the question you should be asking yourself. Hope this helps you understand the world a little bit better @@user-zj5jt6yh1o
I never knew there were RV HOA Nazi's at resorts. No thank you! I would never stay there again and would tell all my friends.
These are the same kind of people who would demand no ordinary caskets be buried in their cemetery.
Hi! I am a professional motorcoach driver and am in the process of converting one of our "Old Junkers" (a military surplus 1969 MCI MC-5 with a whole 120k miles on it), the bus cleans up like new and I can imagine the complaints I'll get for that one! Or perhaps I'll drive up in our oldest coach a 1963 GM 4106! Stumbled into your channel and I liked your story! I guess it explains why when I stumbled into winning a land auction for $1 that my friend wanted me to install a RV pad. Nearest neighbor is more than a mile away and it's in the mountains of northern Nevada. Perfect camping spot if you like the high country! I guess he hates dealing with picky RV parks (his RV is a bit older than yours is)!
Campground owner here, I once had someone ask to bring their emotional support chicken, I said no, I couldn’t guarantee the security of the chicken. I have lots of guests who their bring their cats, I never charge. For us, age restrictions are a tool to eliminate people if needed. Your family looks wonderful, if you’re ever in Northern California, give Camp Russian River on the Russian River a call, we love to have you
I couldn't imagine accepting a unsolicited invite and only to find out upon arrival they wouldn't accept and allow me to stay at their campground?? After all I drove a number of miles at 7 or 8 MPG. And countless miles off my plotted course!! I just want to thank you for the heads up on Tampa&Sommerset areas to stay away from!! My money spends just as good everywhere else!!!
We ran into this rv age on the Oregon Coast. I think the campground is called Pelican something. We wanted to spend our 67th wedding anniversary and they turned us down because our RV was over ten years old. Needless to say we do not want to be where we are not welcome but rest assured I have told others about this policy.
Congratulations on your anniversary. It would have been so much more fun if they had welcomed you and thrown a little picnic party to celebrate your special day!
I live near that Pelican place. I think they are kind of snooty. Lots of other places here that don't even ask. Sorry, that happened to you. Kathleen
Honestly, if the Park doesn't want your money, give it to someone else! I wouldn't worry about it!
I'm glad that I watched this video (and subscribed, BTW), it was very enlightening. As we have a now 33 years old Foretravel, I can expect to be excluded from some locations, based merely on the age of the coach. It is very good looking, and after I do some cosmetic work, will simply be spectacular. The ONLY real negative for visiting campgrounds is that it does not have modern pollution controls, so that cold startups can be deisel stinky. When I select a site at a campground, I try to get the most remote spot, where the exhaust prior to our departure would be least likely to irritate or affect others. Edit: The contact you got regarding collaboration was probably sent by a marketing company, not through the campground itself. That would explain the disconnect between your very public situation and the HOA-like restrictions of the place this video is about.
Funny how they couldn't break the rules for number of pets or age of your RV, but seemed to have no problem with the fact that you aren't over 55 years old. Love watching y'all, by the way!
Right!?! 😂 thanks for watching 💙
Even in housing properties that are age restrictive, the properties are required to have a percentage available for any age. I think they got this channel mixed up with another, and instead of saying “oh my goodness, here’s what happened, we are SO sorry” they attacked the family and their rig instead. Thousand trails will never see a red cent from me!
Could have thought she's 55. Certainly cranky enough to be 55.
@@valerief1231 I agree with the sentiment, but unfortunately the law you're referring to is commonly misunderstood. In order to qualify as a 55+ community, they are ALLOWED to have residents under 55, up to 15% of their total population (at least in FL). If less than 85% of residents are 55+, they lose their zoning/designation for that type of community status. It's not that they MUST accept that many, only that they CAN. HOAs often claim NO ONE under 55 can legally live there. That's a lie. It's only a problem if the 85/15% ratio is in play. As she says in this video, it's easier to reject everyone and hide behind policy than to consider applications on a case by case basis. It's really not a good way to do business, but in Florida, where so much of the population has this attitude, it's sadly common. Other laws come into play if an HOA rejects someone under 55, due to circumstances like disability, inherited property etc. No one should just accept "that's our policy" when it comes to where they can live. Get the facts, check your rights and go from there.
@@mandiexxi4522 I not sure how that applies exactly because the condo that I own has a stipulation that you can own but can't stay there unless someone over 55 is in the condo with you (makes me think it's based on ownership), or they're just trying to loophole law. They've been sued for age discrimination at least once that I know. They were hassling and trying to force out a couple under 55 (they looked to me to be in there mid-40's maybe early 50's). It's like these communities always have a issues with anyone they deem not worthy of addition to their "herd".
I give you major props for how you handled this. I would have at least called out the park by name. My wife and I are both 60 and at fortunately Florida is not a planned destination for us at this time If I knew the name of the Campground I would specifically avoid this campground. Time to make them famous. If you have completed a visit you would have likely given an honest review, the good, the bad the ugly.
I've been on the fence about the RV age restrictions for the very reasons you've highlighted. I think you've helped me find the “policy” for our park that takes the middle road. RV Age plus exception criteria, all above board with no exceptions to the exception criteria. And then I have to get our attorney to find a replacement phrase for exception criteria because the courts wouldn't go exceptions to the rule and then enforce exception criteria.. Because it's no longer an exception. This lets us welcome the family or couple pulling that mint-condition Airstream or in your case, the well-maintained Class A motorhome. For pets, this is a tricky one. I ask that all pets be listed, but now I think I need to find a way to work our form to account for cats that's never leave the vehicle. Being blunt: dogs are a mixed bag. Even dogs that never leave the vehicle can be unruly. And some dog breeds are more talkative than others, with personalities that affect jist how talkative they are and reactive to noises/presence outside the vehicle. So maybe the contract wording should be about unruly pets and not number of pets? I'd love to hear some thoughts by others.
Thanks for watching and the reply!
"On arrival at our campground If the photograph you appended to your booking application does not reflect the condition of the RV when we inspect your RV and your pets do not meet the description as submitted on the application we reserve the right to not accept your booking and to refuse you entry to the campground.. as per the T&C attached and ticked by you when you submitted your application on line or by mail or text." This is fair warning. You have already decided that any RV that has applied can be accommodated based on the information given.... but if they are lying..... refunds would have to be sorted out of course...
Before we got our current Airstream, we traveled with a vintage 2004 camper that we had fully restored and had custom finished inside and out. A couple of RV parks did this same routine with me - "Send photos so we can approve your unit" - and I sent a couple of pics; got their reply, "Sure, that looks fine; come on a stay." That's when I canceled with my own reply, "Sorry, we have some concerns that your park may not be up to OUR standards." I won't even consider staying at a RV park like this. Had a conversation with the folks camping beside us at a state park a couple of years back. They were in a beautifully restored 1973 Holiday Vacationer that was completely modernized and looked brand new. I couldn't believe their story of being turned down again and again because they had a "too old" RV!
I agree with you! It has been like this for a while! We have personally been denied from places because they said we have "too many kids" (while we were in a RV). We are now converting a bus into an RV so that limits us as well since many rv parks and resorts including Thousand Trails do not allow bus conversions, regardless of what they look like. I am hoping things will change, but we love boondocking too. ❤
You need to be RVIA certified for the campgrounds insurance so no they won't change on that. If you go that way just know where your BLM land is and have enough solar onboard. It's better than waking up next to ugly rv's and putting up with the people that live in the rv's, yes I live in an rv park the neighbors are always drunks or druggies (even in the adult only parks)
And this is sad too as in our 5 yearsof travel we came across some amazing converted buses. Best of luck with the build.
@@RobertnMichelle19 thank you ♥️
Ya...theyHATE,buses
About 5 yrs ago I tried to make reservations at a park in Florida, first thing they asked, What year is your RV? We didn't qualify! Bunch of elitest snobs I say!
And I forgot to say, in my earlier comment,, your RV is beautiful. Keep pushing forward I enjoy your videos,, I wish that I had the camera set up to do the same thing. I have traveled over 100,000 miles by motorcycle,, and now in the past three years, we have a new RV that we plan on going to Alaska. We’re only weekend warriors unfortunately,, we started a business and now we are pretty much stuck at home unable to find good workers. Keep on rolling and I can live vicariously through your family. Happy camping.🎉
Thank you for all the information what's the name of the RV park.
We're always glad to leave where we're not well received😊
You should open a campground, we’d stay at it! While we have a newer RV, my husband and I agree totally. Understandable that parks want to verify the state and that everything is functioning but so many people renovate older ones like you did that many should be fine. If it’s truly the liability in an evacuation situation I wonder why they couldn’t have some sort of waiver for that. Good thing there are many other park options that will accommodate and be a better experience for your wonderful family.
as sister of a personal injury attorney, I will tell you why there is no waiver for this. The insurance companies won't accept them... because even with waivers insurance companies have lost in court battles to grieving families who sued anyway.
@@falconlefey that makes sense
I live where it floods often and quickly. I have seen rvs floating down the river, age had nothing to do with it but a swift rise of water did!😊
While I'm not an RVer I ran into something similar when I called an RV park in Yreka CA. I was told they had purchased the park two years earlier and were trying to upgrade the parks image, so I couldn't charge my EV. I did find a RV park over by the fairgrounds that was friendly and allowed me to charge there.
Absolutely insane. I get why you didn’t but I’d be so tempted to name names here, I’m not sure I’d want to trust staying at a place that seems to be run by keystone cops. At any rate, regarding the kitties, we are relatively new to the scene and just took our cats with us for the first time last year. I didn’t mention them because, like you, I thought well, they don’t ever leave the camper, they don’t add any additional wear or tear to the facility so why would I? In my mind that is equivalent to declaring your bringing along an extra set of sheets! What difference does it make? Well, I sort of “let the cat(s) out of the bag when we were getting ready to check out and I mentioned how well our cats did on their first adventure and you would have thought I’d committed a Madoff level fraud on the place. I guess I was supposed to have paid an additional deposit for having pets like they were going to escape and wreak havoc on the place like it was a motel room or something. So now I just know to not mention them at all.
I made reservations for a rv park for the winter in Arizona last year. I told them I had 2 dogs. Right after I got there I got a notice that they only had a one pet policy. I went to the manager. Thankfully they modified their policy to allow my 2 dogs.
RV owners want your money. She is just a whiner or more likely the story is made up so that she can post a sponsored video. Although if I were a sponsor I would not want my company associated.
Are you accusing the poster of making up the situation? How cynical! They try to honestly share their experiences so others are aware of what can go wrong. Shame on you!
LOL, thats simply crazy ..... I agree with you it feels like for whatever reason they changed there mind and no longer want you at there campground? I have heard of the age of your camper / motorhome being an issue for seasonal campgrounds BUT not for transient camping? Crazy .... your cats by the way look lovely! 😂
Great video! Just happened upon your video... now a subscriber. You are so well spoken and handled this situation with class. Many would have mentioned the rv park. I really hear that you wanted to discuss these issues and not just whine. What a strange thing to have happen, especially since they reached out to you...
Thanks for watching
I love that you give them ZERO publicity by name! My initial thought was let us know the place to avoid... but that's giving them free advertising! And our family isn't over 55 and we have 3 dogs so we wouldn't be welcome there either...
Exactly!
@@GratefulGlamperThough…. You do have a great platform and could hurt them greatly it would be justified. We once had a year membership with 1000 Trails (4 great homeschool kids, no pets, except a hamster) , and I really didn’t like that most people were very rude and snooty! We will never again have a membership.
Campgrounds can’t make different rules for different people. If they let the Grateful Glampers in, then someone with a junky 16 yr old RV, a dog and 2 feral cats who were turned away could then sue the campground for discrimination. Our laws and rules in America are not set on a case by case basis. It’s unreasonable to expect campgrounds, who often are understaffed, to be expected to constantly make these judgment calls. It’s easier and cleaner to just have ONE SET OF RULES FOR EVERYONE! If you don’t like their rules then go somewhere else. This is just another “victim” story. 🤦♂️
We camp with our two cats. We never included them with our reservation because they never leave the camper. All their facilities are inside. They do have a few fans at different sites when they are discovered. It has never been an issue camping in Alaska.
It doesn't matter if the cat doesn't leave the camper, their POOP does and their litter waste does. Just like dog poop and doggie bags. That kind of waste adds up.
@@jenniferkopf7879 not sure I understand your comment. Their poop goes out with the normal trash. I don't think my cats have ever made so much waste that I needed to make a seperate trip to the trash for them.
@@erniebennett1774 Campgrounds are businesses that pay by the pound for waste removal. Each persona and pet - adds to that. In order to calculate how much removal service they will need annually, they need to KNOW how many are staying there. So, like I said...even if your kitty doesn't ever leave your trailer - their WASTE does and contributes to the expense of the park.
Look at it this way. The campground wanted a shout out in one of your videos. Mission accomplished.
You make your case very well. The park owner and staff are lacking common sense at every level. They had a chance to collaborate with you on soooo many levels that would have been huge benefits for you and them as business owners from both sides. I'm rolling my eyes right now at honestly, their short sighted ignorance of business for them and your family. It was a win-win situation!!!!
She made a one sided case really well so what. She did not give park an opportunity. And she included a sponsor in the video and the story is probably fabricated if you like her. If you think about it she is being a child and looking for justification for being treated unfairly. Well so have all of us. But then she spits in your face and includes a sponsor in the video so she is just using her viewers to make money. I think you should subscribe and reward this behavior it is just what this poor ethic and entitled society need is you supporting it's demsize.
I can see how you feel you were used by this RV Park. Your exchange with them reminds me of the HOA nightmares I binge watched. Just thank your lucky stars you aren't being fined nor having your RV taken from you and go where you all will be truly appreciated.
I think you're going to run into this run-around whenever you deal with the camping "resorts" whether they reach out to your not. We avoid them like the plague.
ME TOO.RUN LIKE,HOA,S....NO WAY NEVER....IN SIX YEARS
There are many people buying older RV's and remodeling them and using them, my friend has a old Greyhound bus from the 1950's and I would put it up against to many 2023 models because the thing is so beautiful and it has a new computer controlled engine and everything else. He uses it as a home while he is racing at drag strips instead of staying at hotels.
We experienced the RV age restriction after the CA Camp fire in 2018. Ours was 20 years and we were not welcome in several RV parks. Very painful.
This is so weird. The campground is being mismanaged.
I have been to RV parks where people live month by month and have so much stuff around outside their RV they couldn’t move it if they had too. Crazy world
Chappell Hill RV Resort in Chappell Hill Texas is the same way they turn away 10 year old plus RV’s/ Travel Trailers. We ended up finding a way better place down the road in Bastrop and had a huge bonus it was practically next door to Bucees cheap gas and good BBQ!!
There is a casino/campground in Carson City Nevada and another campground in Dayton Nevada just down the road with similar requirements.....very frustrating for full timers who maintain their units and vehicles better than most!!!
How do we find out which campground this is so we can make sure not to use them?
Charity, you nailed it... we have a 13 year old RV... and this is insane.. these people realized they did not know who you were when they invited you. Thus, trying to find a way out... my opinion.
nope ... somebody probably pointed out the flood of "karen" complaints they would get, plus potentially a lawsuit - it's Florida after all! How DARE they bring that old hunka junk into the campground? Campground rules are becoming like HOA rules - Karen is gonna enforce them.
I agree they blindly reached out, and instead of being upfront that the marketing department made an error, they backpeddled... which I think is more harmful than owning up to a mistake.
@@capnkirk5528I've been saying for awhile that HOA's are nothing but a group of karens
I think that someone made a mistake in offering you a free stay, so they then had to find an excuse to resend their offer. Count yourself lucky to not have wasted your time with them.
Thanks for the heads up this site is definitely off the radar for me.
Any time!
Charity I'm so sorry this happened to you and your family. We all know what rebel rousers you are.😆 Ha ha ha. Serious, though. Apparently NO one at this campground communicates very well with anyone else. So crazy and not so smart on their part. Best of luck finding a wonderful place to stay. Happy Birthday Dakota!
Thank you!
I’ve heard of a lot of campgrounds only allowing newer campers/RVs. It’s horrible!
We reserved a site in an RV resort in Silver Springs FL . Had to send pictures of our 10 y.o. 5th wheel. When we got there, there were campers from the 60s and 70s, also we weren't part of the click. We were treated like we had the plague.
I’m not a part of the Rv community, but I am a new resident of the state of Florida. All I can say is that things are different here lol. I am continually amazed at the “rules” I have encountered I. This state is living in a different era and different world than the rest of the US!
It was like that when we moved to Texas twenty years ago. We heard the phrase, "See in Texas, we do things differently, " so much it became a running joke in our family. Oh, and it was always over something truly absurd, too. LOL
Hope Ya'll have a happy new year 🎉 and find a nice place to stay ❤
Im traveling in a new class A in Florida, right now, and any information on RV parks/resorts/campgrounds managed by flaky personnel is always good to know so to avoid.
I was watching your video at, what I believe, is the sister park near The Villages. When we checked in I was asked all of the questions you were. Trust me you didn't miss much!
Cooney Reservoir just outside Columbus Montana was exactly the same way. They had a dozen empty camping spots that were reserved from anywhere from a day to 2 weeks away. We only wanted to stay for one day so we went and talked to the camp host and they said nope you can't stay there because it's already reserved even though they weren't going to be here for 2 weeks. First time I've ever seen a campground willing to miss out on almost $1,000 because they won't rent out a spot that's reserved for 2 weeks from then.
I wonder if they had problems with people parking and then forgetting to leave when their time was up.
I fully agree with you. In fact, I can add that such restrictions are discriminatory against senior citizens. Senior citizens might have an older RV that they purchased years ago and cared for very well, but senior citizens are often on a fixed income during retirement and absolutely cannot afford to "upgrade" their RV. I'm not afraid to identify RV parks by name. I pointed out such discrimination to CalExpo RV Park in Sacramento, CA, which has a 10-year rule. Fortunately, they use discretion if you can provide evidence, and their requirements for evidence are extensive: photos of all 4 sides of your RV, photos of your valid registration that must match the guest's name, photos of your valid insurance that must match the guest's name, and photos of your license plates with valid registration stickers. I asked them how they ensure that all of these documents with personal information on them are kept secure, and they stated that they keep such records secure (what could I do but believe them? At least they're a state-sponsored organization, which could be a good or a terrible thing). CalExpo RV Park is a very decent bare-bones park with very nice staff. It's the neighborhood and area that are the problem. CalExpo really does have 24/7 security patrol (I heard them and saw them throughout the night patrolling), and they have a live-in host. CalExpo is literally about half the cost of the next cheapest private RV park in the area, which averages about $100 per night. I think the RV park that rejected you is simple-minded (inflexible) and discriminatory. I'm not sure why you won't name the RV park that rejected you, so that we could be warned, because it doesn't seem like you are saying anything but what you actually experienced. It's not slander. Many RV KZheadrs are completely open about the businesses they visit, and we really appreciate that.
I'm glad you told about your experience with that RV park. I won't be going there for sure I don't need all the hassle when I'm trying to enjoy myself without back and forth shenanigans
I just recalled a point in making sure RV(/trailers) have maintained tires should they need to be moved. In some places I've lived the municipality actually imposes this on all properties, but it's only enforced on a complaint based basis.
100% agree with you!!
Hello 😊 We admire your professionalism demonstrated in this video as the frustration of the “Exclusive (haughty)” Park representative is enough to make anyone’s blood boil😳! You guys are a pleasure to watch and we appreciate the time and effort you must put into making such EXCELLENT videos. Al and Cathy in Michigan. (25 ft Airstream).
Thanks so much! Happy New Year to you both
That's a campground I will never go to. Thanks for sharing your experience and saving others the nightmare at this place.
Thanks for watching
question? I wouldnt be able to tell if your rig was a 2004 a 2014 pr a 2020 unless u shoed me yout registration. How do the rv park staff tell?
I run an rv park in north Texas, the only time we turn away an rv is when it is held together with rolls of duct tape and looks it has never been through a safety inspection, we have had trailers from the 50's and 60's here that looked wonderful especially with Sisters On The Fly, awesome group of ladies and cats are always welcome though we do warn people not to let cats out late at night, we do have wild critters roam the park at night - raccoons, skunks, owls and coyotes sometimes.
We have encountered a number of pet restrictions, 10 yr. RV age restriction, and many 55+ parks. We have never taken our cat, she's a barn cat, but have traveled with 3 dogs, one being a Rot mix. It's their parks and they can make whatever rules they want. However, the fact they invited you guys makes me doubt they had ever watched your channel.
I'm planning to start full time RVing this spring. I have a dog and 3 cats. I knew campgrounds might have breed/weight restrictions about dogs, but I wasn't sure about my cats. Like yours, mine would never leave the RV.
I have first hand experience with RV age restrictions. We previously owned a 2008 Beaver Patriot Thunder, 43 feet of gorgeous coach. There is a park in Sparks, Nevada that has a 10 year age restriction for guest RV's. I could not believe what I was hearing (in 2020) when I told them it was immaculate and it only had about 24k miles and glimmered like new. Their reply was if it is more than 10 years old, they will make an exception upon their "inspection of the RV". Fast forward to our visit there, we walked the entire park looking at the rigs staying there. There were a couple of Airstream trailers that while clean and shiny, were definitely on their 20+ year mark. That being said, as our children have all grown and moved out, my wife and I found that the coach was too big for us... so we bought an Airstream 😁
Thank you for the info.. ❤️
Thank you so so much for pointing out this discrimination issue ( which is becoming more and more an issue across this country because of discrimination)
Expecting _guests_ to abide by established rules is not discrimination to anyone other than a Karen.
@@simonelliot3712 I'm afraid not there is rules and regulations yes but when it becomes to the discrimination and there is discrimination just because that way a certain group of people can associate themselves with the same I like people
@@mrsurreal4271 Thanks for proving my point again. Cheers.
@simonelliott3712...oh goober call me karen! You just prove my point every time you attempt to stifle anyone who is not goober ish, you know.... challenged.
@@user-wo6tp1cq8h Nobody is trying to stifle you. What you're experiencing is the discomfort associated with the cognitive dissonance that results when you make yourself look like a dumb-dumb in front of everyone. But hey, at least, now you know.
Love your Rant!! Even subscribed as support since we also have an older extended/hitop van for socalizing and as tow for our 2021 teardrop trailer. Thanks for speaking out for all of us little people that lack a voice in the world of high finance. Best of travels!
Thanks so much for your support and for watching
That’s absolutely ridiculous 🤦🏼♀️ sorry that happened to you guys
Though it might not have been the “collaboration” they were looking for with your channel, it was certainly the one that was deserved. As we near retirement, my wife and I have looked into RV life. Channels like yours are certainly educational and eye opening!
Thank you!
In Québec (Canada), we often see an age restriction for those that are seasonal at a campground. They stay there and their camper or RV is not expected to move all summer. They often like to have newer models. For travellers like we are, they do not have an age restriction because we will stay for a week or two maybe at the top. Often we like to explorer and not be based at the same place.
Glad you’re using your platform to bring awareness to things like this. My wife and I will start our RV journeys in 2024. We are filling up on knowledge of all things RV. This help.
You want more whining "I was treated unfairly" like a child on a playground content. This is informative or entertaining? You know she included a sponsor and she makes thousands and tens of thousands of dollars. It is probably made up. If it were genuine and for your benefit would she include a sponsor? Hope this helps you understand how this works. Hope this comments helps you in life.
Sometimes it's not so much if the animals leave the unit but the zoning ordinances. Learned that during the years we did full timing. Some zoning counts our campers/rvs as mobile homes and some mobile home ordinances with pet restrictions. The age restriction, yeah that's a thing and in my experience, it's not the top or very popular rv parks that push this. We were turned down for being 1 year older at once place and before we had upgraded, our pull behind was immaculate for a 24 year old unit. One person approved it off of the pictures we had sent of both the unit and our truck (yukon xl). We had made the arrangements, arrived. Was turned away for the age of the rv. I was dumbfounded. We spent the night in a Cabela's parking lot until I was able to get us in somewhere quickly (hubs had to start work 2 days after we arrived, pure hell locating a new 4-6 month stay). It's crazy to me. The only other time we've been turned down that wasn't due to an age restriction or pet policy, was not having a physical address. We maintained a UPS box that even our state accepted for our driver's license. The campground looked up the address, ok fine whatever. Kinda weird but who knows, maybe they were bored. Told us we gave them a fictitious address, ignored that it's on our licenses, our vehicle insurance documents, and did not believe we lived in our camper with our baby, dogs, and cats. Just blew my mind that we were considered homeless and turned away for giving them 'invalid' info. Be careful out there. At least folks like you that are brave enough to share the journey with others, are spreading the word that there are those of us (and we're not that small of a group) who live in our rvs by choice. Thank you for doing a video on this. I've met people and have been new to the lifestyle and full timing was an eye opener and a learning experience. It's folks like that you talk about the negative side of this (like being turned away, mechanical issues, how costly our repairs are, how the walls can close in, organization issues) that are the best ones out there.
I have found that MOST RV PARKS are now restrict to RV's that are 10 years or less older. MY RV is a 2002 so I spend much time Boondocking. I also found that, like here in California, are being owned by wall street companies.