Ancient Egypt Expert Rates 8 Ancient Egypt Scenes In Movies And TV | How Real Is It? | Insider
Egyptologist Anthony Browder rates eight ancient Egypt scenes from movies and television for realism.
He analyzes the accuracy of the mummification process depicted in "The Mummy" (1999), with Brendan Fraser, and "Moon Knight" (2022), starring Oscar Isaac. He also comments on pyramids and ancient ruins in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (1981), starring Harrison Ford; "Gods of Egypt" (2016), featuring Chadwick Boseman; and "The Ten Commandments" (1956). Browder discusses famous pharaohs, kings, and queens depicted in "Exodus: Gods and Kings" (2014), "Cleopatra" (1963), and "Tut" (2015).
Browder is the director of the ASA Restoration Project, which is the first African American-funded archeological excavation in Egypt. The ASA is currently excavating three 25th-dynasty Kushite tombs. He is also an associate professor at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and the author of books such as "Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization."
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This man is not an Egyptologist. He was a Fine Arts major at Howard and is completely self-taught regarding everything else. His own website describes him as an "autodidact" he is NOT an Egyptologist, not a Historian, not an Archaeologist, just a guy who self publishes a LOT.
Im glad i came to the comments after he gave moon knight a 0. From the commentsl, i didnt really bother watching the rest of this video
Wow-l wasn’t aware of this.
Remember when he listed canopic jars and after naming two organs placed to them, mentioned "and other organs") also these 0 and 10 marks...
Yea you know more about him then the people who hired him for his expertise shut up
Hi, former archaeologist here. There are very few- if any- universities outside of Egypt that offer Egyptology programs. Most Egyptologists, from outside of Egypt are either historians or archaeologists that specialize in Egypt, but that doesn't preclude a person from another discipline becoming an Egyptologist. So after 30 years of studying Egypt, this guy would qualify as one.
I'm afraid I must point out a few inaccuracies in this video. 11:19 - He's talking about the 'Set animal', saying it's not the jackal Anubis (which is correct), but the image shown is of Set and the caption reads 'Anubis'. 11:42 - Ancient Egyptians were not 'white', but they were not sub-Saharan 'black' either. If we must assign them color, 'brown' would be more fitting. 12:06 - 'Kemet' does not mean "the land of the blacks", it means "black land", and it is in reference to the fertile silt left over by the yearly inundation of the Nile, which made agriculture possible. 13:04 - Chadwick Boseman was one of the only good things on that movie, give him an 8/10 at least! 14:34 - There is plenty of evidence that Cleopatra VII was strongly influenced by her Macedonian Greek ancestry as far as her looks go. 14:41 - The picture shows an image from the tomb of queen Nefertari (wife of Ramesses II), not Cleopatra VII at Kom Ombo temple. Nefertari's name is right there for those who can read hieroglyphs!
I was really confused when they showed that picture of Nefertiti because as far as I know just about every painting that we have and that we know is cleopatra she is very pale looking.
I was thinking the same thing...
Well, yeah, I too think that Egyptians being portrayed by actors with strong caucasian face features looks very weird to me, but what about Cleopatra? Ptolemaic Kingdom lasted roughly 300 years. It is hard to tell, but we can assume that at this point Ptolemaioi had both egyptian and hellenic descents, with hellenic being dominating. Big "press X for doubt" under statement she could be described as black in terms of facial features or skin colour. To me at this point he is going on a race war, with no regard for historical accuracy. As a historian you can be irritated by typical portrayal by caucasians, but you should not do the same, just flipped 180 degress. As far as we know, and what art tends to show, Ancient Egypt was not racially homogenous. Be it lower, or upper egypt, or nubians, you could find conglomerations of various heritages, and in whole spectrum. Also as center-eastern european I am always amazed how some people are americentric. Even this whole ancient egyptian racial controversy seems to be more about not coming to truth, but just americans of different skin colours fighting with each other for heritage they don't even own.
@@vanVoltaire they did not mix with the locals, higher nobility mixed mostly with themselves and nobility from abroad, so they were still pretty much pure Greeks
Stop embarrassing yourself a grown man isn't supposed to sound as silly as you You have no idea what you are talking about to say it politely Egypt is in Africa hence KMT totally means land of the blacks because at its core KMT was an African coalition made of various African ethnic groups with black skin cushitic "Africans" nilotic Africans central "Africans" green Sahara "Africans" and off course indigenous nile Valley "Africans" notice how many time I said "Africans" The oriental admixture came much much much later Egypt was already a full fledged civilization when it happened and it all started in Nile delta e.g. lower Egypt Listen I can school you all day and crush your silly statements to oblivion by using my original documents but it'll be a waste of my time because your mindset operates out jealousy racism and hate such individuals cannot think rationally....
The scene with Imhotep and Anck-su-namun murdering Seti I was based off an actual incident known as the Harem Conspiracy, a plot to assassinate the Egyptian pharaoh Ramesses III in 1155 BC. The principal figure behind the plot was one of the pharaoh's secondary wives, Tiye, who hoped to place her son Pentawer on the throne instead of the pharaoh's chosen successor Ramesses IV, but mainly organized by the court official Pebekkamen. The plotters succeeded in killing the pharaoh but failed to establish Pentawer on the throne. In the aftermath, the leading conspirators were convicted and executed. Papyrus trial transcripts reveal that the conspirators were prescribed 'great punishments of death', and archaeological evidence led to the suggestion that at least one of them may have been buried alive. So the Harem Conspiracy and its aftermath was the inspiration to “The Mummy.”
Fact 👌Excellent job writing about the historical incident
the fact that he never mentioned that is laughable, for an “expert” he ignored a lot of important things
maybe not mummified though
The Mummy is a big mess of anachronisms because it's a fun fantasy movie that has nothing to do with Egyptian myth or history using names and incidents pretty much at random like a big budget episode of Hercules or Xena.
@@bostonrailfan2427”the mummy” and conspiracy theories about mummies usually aren’t learned in college history classes. He pointed out that the film uses two real figures that never knew each other in an affair and that that was incorrect and that people probably weren’t mummified alive- which is a connection to the original commenters point. No one in these videos goes into a lecture, they can’t. These videos are to spark interest in whatever the topic by connecting it too popular films. Not to give lectures and go through every detail of the subject.
Kemet means "Black Land" and refers to the rich, alluvial black soil left on the banks of the Nile following the annual inundation. This is in contrast to "Deshret" ("Red Land"), i.e. the surrounding desert. Whilst his point about the ethnicity of early archaeologists is totally valid, the term "Kemet" has nothing to do with race. (I'm an Ancient History teacher and studied Middle Egyptian hieroglyphs for 2 years)
He was wrong about a lot. Cleopatra being a glaring example.
@@danblack5402because he's not an Egyptologist.
He lost me the moment he mentioned Egyptians were BLACK and of African heritage giving points to the Black actor and Black actresss for Cleopatra
@@CrimsonAlchemistancient Egyptians were balck ( many were middle eastern too) but cleopatra unless her mother was native Egyptian ( middle eastern or black or a mix) was probably white
@@trey5747Historical sources don’t show that Cleopatra’s mother was black, so yes, Cleopatra was white. However, based off of all of the evidence, including the appearance of the modern descendants of ancient Egyptians and artistic depictions of ancient Egyptians by themselves, it is simply incorrect to say that ancient Egyptians were black. Sure, there would be some black people in Egypt, and indeed there was a dynasty (only one, according to current knowledge) of black conquerers, but the ancient Egyptians were not, by and large, either black or white.
It always amaze me that we are closer to Cleopatra, than she was to the Great Giza Pyramid.
you simply can't underestimate how old the Pyramid is... it's already ancient to the ancient people itself
The ancient Egyptians had archaeologists to look at their old stuff
When visiting Egypt there was a signature of Mark Anthony scraped in an old statue. That blew my mind, the statue was so old that in front of it Mark Anthony was just a tourist like me.
Here's another one for you: we're closer to the Great Pyramid at Giza than the pyramid is to the Göbekli Tepe temple, which is considered to be the first known human structure in the world. It was built at least 10,000 years ago, possibly longer. It was ancient when ancient Egypt existed.
@@liversuccess1420 time is a weird thing
I was really not expecting Raiders of the Lost Ark to get a 10 for historical accuracy.
my guy its 10 for production value.
@@wanyoungpark4931 because the set designer did their research.
haha same... but totally expected The Mummy to get less than 0
@@wanyoungpark4931 which comes from adherence to historically known facts.
He did make his 10 pretty specific. Also, I feel like he and I are similar ages and there might be a hint of "I saw it in the theater as a kid" bias thrown in there as well.
For more information about the Canopic Jars. There were only 4 jars because (other than the 4 organs to be removed) they represented the 4 sons of Horus. These sons were manifestations of the directions of North, South, East and West.
That was interesting but I was slightly crestfallen to hear him say "Anyone who knows anything about ancient Egyptian history knows there were four jars.". I like to think of myself as being reasonably well-informed about ancient history but, while I knew what a Canopic jar was, I did not know that there were always four. At least I've learnt something and thank you for your additional information.
he bullshitted that
@@bostonrailfan2427 how when he was literally right😂? cant say he's bullshitting just because he didnt give you a lecture on the topic its a 10 minute youtube video dude he's just saying its inaccurate, giving a quick correction, and moving on
My wife is actually an egyptologist. And she ususally couldn't stop shaking her head no, when we watch TV Shows or movies based on ancient egypt :D The makers usually don't give a damn if it's acurate. The most important thing is: it should look like ancient egypt.
I'm not going to say Elizabeth Taylor was ideal for accurately depicting Cleopatra, but the Pharaoh was Ptolemaic, so she would have likely looked more Greek than Northern African.
She was Greek
@@danblack5402 I'm not certain where you're going with this vague comment. It doesn't add to the conversation. The best evidence we have is that she was 3/4 Macedonian and 1/4 Egyptian, so my statement stands. Her physical appears would likely have looked more Greek then North African.
@@pencildragon1961 - I’m agreeing with you. I’m simply saying, yes, she was Greek. Your comment does stand. She would have had a light, olive complexion.
exactly. Although none of the northern african populations at the time were black or "Halle Berry skin coloured" I still dont see Elizabeth Taylor as a good portrayal of Cleopatra. I very much wish someday they make a movie about Egyptian or Roman history that actually stays faithful to the records and sources and doesn't embellish in any way.........
They probably mixed up Nefertiti w/ Cleopatra, so it was all about the nose ;)
I’m glad he brings up the trope of the “archeologist” absolutely destroying ancient tombs and artefacts. I hope the new Indiana Jones movie will be a bit more sensitive to these things, in the old movies, as great as they are, he’s basically a glorified grave robber who routinely desecrates incredibly important sites that ,if they were real, could have given us incredible insights into way the people lived
...it's an action movie. If you really want Harrison Ford to spend the whole movie being an archeologist, by all means. But when I want a dumb action movie, I watch a dumb action movie. Otherwise I don't watch that and watch a documentary.
There's already a movie about that. It's called The Dig. It was decent. Indiana Jones is not that. Indiana jones is an action movie.
Worst take of 2022. Can’t imagine how soft you are irl
Way back in time archeologists didn't have sophisticated tools. It's not that inaccurate.
Also, its just a story...
I’m surprised he didn’t mention that Cleopatra would’ve looked more Greek than native Egyptian, as she was a descendent of Ptolemy, a close friend and general of Alexander the Great who managed to seize control of Egypt after Alexander died. From him until Cleopatra, his descendants ruled Egypt and then it was brought under full control of Rome, rather than a client state.
I had the same reaction. Obviously we're talking about a very long time ago, and are thus dealing with a fair bit of uncertainty about many things, but my understanding is that there was effectively an unbroken genealogy from Ptolemy I to Cleopatra VII, and the vast majority if not all of the members of that lineage were of Greek origin. Granted it would be in Cleopatra's interest to perpetuate that story whether true or not, and the Ptolemaic dynasty adopted many of the symbols of Egyptian royalty. But they considered themselves Greek and continued to speak the Greek language in court. Either way, we would expect her to be darker than Elizabeth Taylor.
The person he refers to as a more likely likeness of Cleopatra is mixed. As for her ptolemaic descent, that's like saying the English royalty are all german. After generations this really doesn't start to matter anymore. Cleopatra in particular was very well known to be very accepting of her role as the Egyptian ruler and using the native language to lead her court.
It's probably safe to assume that Cleopatra was of some sort of mixed descent (though these concepts of race and ethnicity are really just constructs anyway), but we are able to trace her lineage almost entirely, with the possible exception of only one or two ancestors. And to be frank, we're dealing with an awfully inbred group of people. Basically every one of them was from a Greek family - often the same family. It was not at all uncommon to see siblings marrying and having children in that dynasty. Though as said, they would each have a strong incentive to trace their lineage to that family, so it's fair to view those family histories with a fair degree of skepticism. My surprise is not that he claimed that Halle Berry would have been closer to Cleopatra than Elizabeth Taylor. That may very well be true, and even if purely Greek, she would have almost certainly been darker than Taylor. My surprise is that he explicitly discussed her appearance but did not discuss that Cleopatra was heir to a Greek dynasty and would have self-identified as Greek. That seems like a major oversight given how he chose to address the depiction of Cleopatra.
Diadochi wars and successor states are my favourite piece of antic history along with punic wars.
@@Salted_Fysh actually the entirety of potelmic dynasty is accounted for expet her grandmother and they were all Greeks. Non of the potelmy dynasty ever spoke ancient Egyptian with cleopatra being the only exception and even then she learned the language as part of her learning 9 languages program. And no she didn't speak it in court
Egypt translated as "Black Soil" because of the yearly flooding of The Nile River which have fertility to the land which was pretty harsh already. Ethnicity really wasn't a thing back then.
And Cleopatra was Macedonian. This blokes just making stuff up to suit his agenda.
Yep. And the ancient Egyptians were neither black nor white. They were.......... Egyptian! There exists artwork of Egyptians interacting with Greeks and Sub-Saharans, and both foreign groups are drawn with different facial characteristics than the Egyptians.
Well, race was a thing, but certainly has nothing to do with the Ancient Egyptian name for their land. Considering their world was defined by the largely empty and lifeless desert, which varied from white through the yellows and reds, and the cultivable Nile Valley and oases, which were famed for their fertile black soil, is it any wonder that the black color of their land led to the name? Black in general was considered a good color in ancient Egyptian culture, while the bad luck color was the red of the desert.
Yes, Kemet means black land or black soil. It had nothing to do with the race of the inhabitants, but with the fertile black soil next to the Nile. Also, Cleopatra was of Macedonian descent, not African. I don't know where he got his facts from...
@@charlenestrauss3539 Yes. Kemet means black, just like a lot of other words mean black. But actually look up the Egyptians Kemet believes! You will learn something...
I was fortunate to take a trip to Egypt years ago, and saw a lot of the things he referencing here, like the tomb of Seti I, the temples at Karnak and Luxor, the Giza pyramids, the first pyramid of Djoser, and the chariot and other items from King Tut's tomb, on display in the Cairo museum along with a lot of other things. The vibrant colors in the Valley of the Kings tombs, as he says, is incredible to see. It reminds you that the sand-brown color of buildings and objects above ground would have also been in very vivid color, but unfortunately those have faded away over thousands of years.
You were so lucky! It is my dream to get there and see everything
If they get this guy on again, I hope he checks out "The Prince of Egypt." I would love to hear a real egyptologist's take on it.
I remember in the behind-the-scenes featurette for the DVD, the production team had consulted with actual Egyptologists, as well as experts on Judaism and Christianity so that the film would have some historical accuracy.
He’ll love those accents.
There is evidence to suggest spontaneous song and dance was a frequent occurrence... 10/10
There's no Egyptian accounts of the Exodus story. Although the Pharaoh is unnamed in the Torah, the film names him Rameses (who we can probably assume would be Rameses II). The dates would match approximately around this time, but the Canaan area (where Israel is) was under Egyptian control and had been for centuries, and so it doesn't really make sense for the Jews to have "escaped" to Canaan to then conquer it.
@@MagicMattProductions there are records actually of the Egyptians avoiding a certain region of the Red Sea for 22 years after this time period. I doubt they would want to record such a tragedy in detail though. There are also records of the Egyptians having Mesopotamian slaves. It's doubtful that the Egyptians would have called the Israelites by the same name that they called themselves since it had religious origins. (They were also not known as Jews yet in the time of history) The Israelites came from the region of Mesopotamia so that's what the Egyptians would know them as.
In surprised that when he addressed Cleopatra's skintone, he doesn't mention at all that she was from the ptolemaic dynasty of rulers who were Macedonian origin meaning that she was likely eastern Mediterranean Caucasian in skin tone.
he didnt say she was dark as night, he said she would be closer to halle berry, aka a light brown/olive skin tone, the exact same one youre trying to correct him to
He said she’d be light skin. Caucasians are not white, they had light/fair skin and Halle Berry would probably be a great representation if a biracial actress was to portray her or even Tessa Thompson.
@@SS4Luxraynone of the northern african populations at the time were black. They were Mediterranean because thats still the climate and its normal temperature are nowhere near the ones in Ghana or the Arabic peninsula where there would be dark skin colored populations for sure. They simply got mixed with the Arabs centuries later and that explains the very arabic looking skin tone you see nowadays in Egypt or in Morocco. Same happened in Lebanon, Syria and Judaea. If you look at Giulia Domna, wife of roman emperor Septimius Severus who was in charge from 193 to 211, she was Syrian and there's a famous image of them both with the sons Caracalla and Geta and they're all white except for Septimius Severus who is slightly tanned because he was from Leptis Magna, closer to Egypt. Even St. Agostino, from modern day Algeria, was still white
The flail is an agricultural instrument that is likely representing the fertility of the land. A flail is used the thresh wheat and wheat production was incredibly important to Egypt, being the source of much of it’s wealth and power. Some historians interpret as an instrument to keep order. The crook representing the softer guiding of the flock with the flail representing the harder authoritarian side. I’ve never read or heard anyone describe it as a tool to swat away flies and the enemies of Egypt.
I am convinced that thing is not (representing) a flail, but the fly swatter he talked about. If you google ancient egypt fly whisk, it resemebles that much more closely than a flail imo
I also picked up on that. As far as I know, it is used to thresh wheat. I don't know why he calls it a fly swatter...
@@charlenestrauss3539 because it looks the exact same as a fly whisk, and honestly not very much like a flail
Kemet didn't mean "land of the blacks." It means "the black land." It is referring to the fertile strip of land on each side of the Nile. Yes, Egypt is in Africa, and there were "black" people in Egypt but to think that they all looked like sub-Saharan Africans is ridiculous. Also, Cleopatra was of Greek origin, the ancestor of one of Alexander the Great's generals, and whose family tree was a straight line. A lot of what this man says completely flies in the face of other PROMINANT Egyptologists, many of which are EGYPTIAN. DNA analysis has concluded that the modern Egyptians are direct descendants of their ancient ancestors.
Thank you! The solution to the whitewashing of Egypt isn't the blackwashing of Egypt. This is just doing the same thing--erasing the native Egyptians, the Copts. The former replaces them with Europeans and the latter replaces them with sub-Saharan Africans. Look to the Fayyum portraits and to the present-day Copts and, generally, modern Egyptians, and you will see the actual ancient Egyptians.
@@prmans Exactly. Egypt has always been a crossroads and melting pot of cultures. Egypt covered a large swath of land which encompassed many different shades of people. Ramses the Great was a redhead FFS!
@@youreagoddamngenius9099 Weren't the folks who said the Egyptians were white also Egyptologists? What's the difference? Also, we know what the Egyptians looked like. They depicted "black" skin in their art very differently from how they depicted their own red/brown skin. We also have actual paintings from the time of the ancients. There's no need to guess or to make it out that they were white or black. They were just Egyptians. Also, Egyptians come in a wide range of complections and some are very dark, but they would never look like a sub-Saharan African in terms of their bone structure and facial features. They're just different people. And of course, there were sub-Saharan Africans that lived in Egypt during the pharaonic era, just like there were Greeks, Romans, and Jews at different times, but none of them were ethnically Egyptian just because they lived in Egypt. And I'm including here the Kushites from Sudan who were part of the 25th dynasty. Yes, they were sub-Saharan Africans who were for a time the ruling party/pharaohs of Egypt but that doesn't make them Egyptians. It doesn't make all of ancient Egypt "black". That's just silly. The Egyptians are an ethnicity. A race. A people. Also, the Egyptians are a people that still exist. They didn't go extinct lol I am an Egyptian and my genetic tests match 100% with the genes of the ancients. I understand that Sub-Saharan Africans had their identities and histories ripped from them when they were taken from their lands and made into slaves, but that doesn't mean you can just pick another ethnic group and conveniently make it your own to have something to belong to or be proud of. It's just simply not true.
@@prmans I know of none who said they were white, nice try. Only time they're seen as white is in Hollywood movies. Most white Egyptologist say they don't know the race of the ancient Egyptians, or they say they were multiracial, whatever that means.
@@youreagoddamngenius9099 the 25th dynasty of pharaos originated from the kingdom of Kush, which means they were 100% black. Photos of Egyptian art have often been tampered with, so they're not necessarily a good source. DNA testing on mummies showed that some ancient Egyptians were ancestors to modern Egyptians and related to people of the Levant, while written sources also tell us of dark skinned people with "wooly hair". If you look around a bit, you can find photographs of indigenous Egyptians with dark, reddish brown skin and dense, curly hair. Black people were referred to as Kushites or Nubians and would commonly live further south, in places like Luxor.
Just so everyone knows, this guy is a conspiracy theorist. On his own website, he calls himself an “autodidact”, meaning he has no formal education in Egyptology. He’s had social media posts where he talks about “Kemet” which instantly show his ignorance and lack of knowledge on the subject. I really thought insider was better than this. I wonder how many other of their “experts” are just hacks.
he is a biased ignorant
Definitely the worst "expert" they've had. But frankly unless something comes from an academic institution you shouldn't trust what their saying as pure fact. (And even then academics can have bias and agendas as well)
He seems logical.
Oh that's interesting. When he talked about Kemet, that did raise a flag. I mean, I know _nothing_ but it seemed strange to me that a people would name their own nation after their skin tone. I did some cursory searching and it seems more likely that the "black land" refers to the fertility of the Nile.
Thank you! I was gearing up to write a long, dismantling and debunking commentary on all of the crap this guy spewed. But, your comment and many others did that job nicely.
Out of all the experts....
Anthony Browder gives no slack in his ratings, these movies better hope he gives out some extra credit
He is just a liar!!
@@MarcSob22 Um, what do you mean, liar?
don't need any slack, gimme the facts! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@MarcSob22 also why do you comment on all these "Expert Reviews" videos trying to dispute their claims? Do you have like 15 masters degrees or something? 😆
@@mysteryY2K anthony browder has a bachelors in graphic design. He has absolutely no academic degree in egyptology... you can look him up.
Egyptians are and were not white or black, these modern racial notions did not (and still don't) exist in Egypt, and they are not scientifically accurate. Egyptians have always had a range of skin tones from reddish or dark tan in the south to beige, fair yellow, and light brown in the north. This is just a natural adaptation. Egyptians tan very easily and the same Egyptian can have a different skin tone depending on sun exposure.
I'm sorry that American activists like this man who are morbidly obsessed with race feel the need to twist the history of other cultures. I am a proud American, but this is embarrassing. Just so you know, this man is not an Egyptologist. He only has a bachelor's degree in Art History and is funded by his own foundation rather than an academic institution.
Tell that lie to someone who doesn't know better. Stop lying to yourself to make yourself feel good. Are you Egyptian have you ate you live there? Then you know racism is in Egypt
@@lexxon11 , Have *you* lived in Egypt to counter his statement? If not, why even bother trying to contradict him?
@@jameswoodard4304Because he's not an actual Egyptologist.
@extremepower5765 , Yeah...I know. Read the whole comment before responding.
I would like to see more scenes from the Mummy movies. Their production values are high too even if the characters are a mish-mash of real historical figures.
Lol the mummy has no historical or their depiction of the Egyptians accuracy any time of the day, thats why its not included in this list..
There was an Egyptologist reviewing other scenes, I was surprised they did the writing right. Also I don't think Imhotep and Su-Namun are supposed to be THOSE historical figures, just namesakes. Like Napoleon Dynamite isn't the same Napo as the dude in funny hat.
It's unfortunate that the Moon Knight clip was taken completely out of context. The show itself explains the reasoning for the unusual placement of the ushabti and both in the scene and elsewhere in the series they call out the harmful destruction and theft of Egyptian artifacts and how wrong it is for Steven to touch anything. If an expert was going to comment on the Egyptology of the series it would've been so much more worthwhile and a better use of his time for him to talk about any of the other scenes involving that, rather than the one the show straight up tells the audience isn't accurate. Missed opportunity there, sadly.
😂😂😂🤮👈🏾
This man is not an Egyptologist, he is a thief. He is not Egyptian.
Does he have super strength in the series?
@@carlosarvizu7044 In the MCU he does when he's wearing the suit/the armor. That is something the commentary on that scene gets right. In the scene in question (spoilers for those who haven't watched the show) Konshu is imprisoned so Marc and Steven can't summon the suit. So no super strength, no healing, no nothing. (And here's where I explain my nerdery by saying I write about this stuff which is both why I remember things like this and wish the video had more insightful commentary in turn. I will go stuff myself into a locker now ;) )
@@thebratqueen I think you missed the premise of this entire series, most of the time they wanted the expert to shine light on the subject based on context of their studies. They don't needed to factor the context of the shows that they would present, because it might misconstrued that point that they are trying to tell.
So, when you chose an Egyptologist you didn't find a one other than this man ? He doesn't even have a degree in Egyptology. He is just a graphic designer and clearly Afrocentrist. He even opened the race subject and start speaking about how Egyptians were black. Clearly, Egyptians depicted themselves entirely different from the Nubians, Kushes, and even whiter races as Syrians, and other Medtirranean poplulations. And, Kemet means "Black land" for the color of soil not "land of the blacks". This is clearly a mistake that an Egyptologist student won't make. And, when he anounced a conference in Egypt for African Americans to spread his lies, there was an uproar in Egypt and we cancelled his conference.
"Kemet" doesn't mean "the land of the black", it means "the black land" referring to the color of the Nile's fertile soil. Most Egyptians were more brown than black. There were black Egyptians called Nubians. This dude has an agenda.
Lies... Egyptians originated from the South near Nubia, not the North. The first megolithic structure discovered from ancient Egypt is actually in Nubia known as Nabta Playa. The oldest mummy in Africa is known as the black mummy because it's clearly an African person. So stop lying about things you are ignorant about.
@@lt2672 I always find it sad and confusing when an ignorant person calls me ignorant. "Napta Playa" is made by Egyptians and Nubians are part of Egypt. "The black mummy" is found in Tripoli in Lybia which is another country if you don't know. I said there were and still are black Egyptians, but he was saying all Egyptians are black which is an agenda that I feel you share.
@@Sam-Ra "Most Egyptians were more brown than black." That quote proves that you're ignorant. I mentioned the mummy from Libya for a reason. Some of the ancient Egyptians originated from the Green Sahara and moved East when it began to dry. That mummy is proof of that reality. The ancient Egyptians originated from the South as proven in Qustul and Nabta Playa. You are just denying reality. This Egyptologist clearly knows the history so he doesn't have an agenda. The people that white wash Egypt have an agenda. The ancient Egyptian language, culture, religion, and land are all African.
Exactly he is an afrocentric propagandist
@@lt2672 "You are just denying reality. This Egyptologist clearly knows the history so he doesn't have an agenda. The people that white wash Egypt have an agenda. The ancient Egyptian language, culture, religion, and land are all African." Clearly you are the one who is denying reality because the guy that insider have in the video is not even egyptologist and he have been wrong several times. Just because some people come from the south doesn't mean that ALL OF THEM DO. So YOU are still wrong and you clearly trying to blackwash egyptian and you clearly have an agenda. Beside just because the country is in africa doesn't makes it's people BLACK or a part of their history.
This guy is clearly biased in his analysis because of his own skin color. They have Nubians and Egyptians standing next to each other in wall paintings and you can CLEARLY see they are different colors, the Nubians being MUCH darker and the Egyptians looking pretty much like they do today. Ask an Egyptian today if he is black and he would tell you "No...I'm Egyptian." Also we know for a fact (because Romans were famous for keeping very good records) that Cleopatra was from the Ptolemaic dynasty....that is to say GREEK, and we know they had a tradition of marrying brother to sister so how exactly is that black skin color supposed to occur? Sad to see this guy engaging in wishful thinking at the expense of Egyptology. Also a flail is not a flyswatter, its an agricultural implement used to thresh wheat...even I know that...jeeze where did you find this guy?
everyone with a bit of culture knows "kemet" means "land of the black mud"
Exactly. The idea that Kemet means "land of the black people" comes from afrocentrist racists. It's modern nazism. At the very least this guy should retract his words. Of course the Ancient Egyptians didn't have modern american racist towards black people, and they didn't associate the colour black with slavery. But in this video he's suggesting that the ancient Egyptians were black and named their land "the land of the black people". If that pseudo-expert who's not even able to list the organs put in the canopic jars doesn't want to change his words, then this video should be removed.
@@EzullofEducate yourself before talking nonesense 🤦 Who are you anyways?
@@Ezullofactually none of the original northern african populations were black. You'd have to go to Ghana or Nubia to find people with darker skin. Because the climate in Egypt and north Africa in general is still Mediterranean, in Egypt maybe they had probably a slightly tanned colour but in general all of those populations (incluring Carthagineans, Berbers and Numidians) are of indoeuropean descent. Northern Africans currently have their darker skin colour because they got mixed with the Arabs which are not of indoeuropean descent.
@@bimmerheadn5492you are an uncultured american
@@Ezullof This is more "woke' bullshit. I remember seeing some of this in the early 90s as well. "Do You Remember the Time?" by Michael Jackson is an example.
8:00 I have never heard a breakdown or rating from any expert give a minus one in the credibility of realism. 😆
Yeah, that was pretty harsh 😆
The other reviewers are generous.
Hilariously he gave minus one to the Mummy, which, despite fantasy elements, has real, readable Egyptian text in other scenes, while giving 10 for sets in Indiana Jones where hieroglyphics are gibberish.
There's a female pilot who does one of these who gave three negative ratings, I think the lowest was -100. Pilots have to care about detail lol
Kemet more likely meant the Black land, not the Land of the blacks, referring to the Fertile soil of the Nile flood plains and not to the people. Ancient Egyptians weren't a homogen group, but likely a mixed civ, with people from black to light brown as it was a huge piece of land. Take a look at the sculptures and paintings. they knew colours, they knew shapes. most of the depictions are showing people who we would call today as arabs. i don't want to take away anyone's pride or anything just pls if you consider yourself a historian, stop spreading bs. There were black and "arab" people in great number and later more and more "white" as the rulers have changed etc. Also, "Cleopatra" was basically greek. Her father was Ptolemy XII Auletes, mother probably Cleopatra VI. In this time period Egypt was ruled by the Ptolemaic dynasty, which was "Macedonian greek". Lying and "washing" people works both ways.
Remember cleopatra was not Egyptian. She was greek. she was born in Egyptian but she was the decendent of ptolemy, who was greek. she was prob have mediterranean skin collor.
That’s true. However, like in other areas that the Greeks conquered, intermixing occurred. It’s not impossible since we haven’t found her body.
We know most of her genealogy, and why would a ruling class of Greeks mix with lower class Egyptians?
@@EresirThe1st That's the point we don't. We infer from previously Ptolemiac rulers that she's more likely Macedonian. I honestly don't care either way, I just don't like it when people speak as if we know EVERYTHING about Cleopatra.
Where is your proof? He showed a painting that was done at that time he reads Hieroglyphs do you?
@@sankaratrucking5255 There's a excavated bust or something showing that Cleopatra has features leaning closer to white people than black. Her skin color was only darker because she'd spent her entire life in Egypt, & if you knew just how capable a ruler she was, you'd know that she ain't one to shirk from the sun.
Hearing "We don't know how Cleopatra died" and then hearing "Cleopatra definitely didn't die from am an asps bite" is confusing. Either you know or you don't know. It's not Schroeder's cat 😂
Because the Asp bite story came along waaay after her death and is unlikely to be accurate.
This isn't that relevant to the current example, but it is worth pointing out that it is possible to not know how thing X happened while simultaneously knowing how thing X did NOT happen
of all the clips from moon knight to chose, and of all the ones to give without context, this was certainly an...interesting choice. like other people have said, there are in-show reasons for the things he critiqued so the only useful insight was that Steven wouldn't have been able to push the lid off. I would have much rather seen him get to dissect a meatier scene with more for him to comment on besides plot points he doesn't know about. like the bit right before this clip, where he's walking into Alexander's tomb. I would have loved to see how accurate the tomb and being in a newly explored tomb was.
Yeah. Could've chosen the scenes that had the dieties instead.
Even pushing the lid off.... Moon Knight has super human strength in some of his comic runs lol
Not a scientist but IIRC Alexander's tomb was never found so talking about its historical accuracy is moot. Could be anything from a hidden cave burial to palace from completely intact to totally robbed.
This video has a strange amount of misinformation. Firstly, as others have pointed out, Egypt is not "Land of the Blacks" but "The Black Land." This is a reference to the fertile soil of the Nile River valley, while the Sahara on the outside of the river valley was known as the red land. It has nothing at all to do with skin color, and attributing modern racial identities to the ancient world is not possible, because those racial identities did not exist. Race is a much more modern construct, people were usually identified by ethnicity. Anyways, in regards to whether Egypt was black.... it's complicated. Who would have thought? A wealthy mercantile center of the Mediterranean Sea would have people from all corners of the world. Being in Africa does not automatically make all of it's residents black. That would be absurd. Race does not have neatly defined borders. There were certainly a lot of Egyptians who would be recognized as black, especially from Kush and further south. The majority of Egyptians likely would have looked "Arab" to many of us today. But ethnically Egypt was a diverse place filled with people from Kush and West Africa, north Africans, people from Asia Minor, and Mediterranean Greeks. Later Egypt, during Hellenistic and Roman rule, would have had many "white" people within it's borders. Cleopatra was Ptolemean, so it's almost certain she was light skinned, meaning what Anthony Browder said is just false. He raises valuable points about white historians devaluing African cultures and their accomplishments, but that does NOT mean he can fabricate history to suit those arguments.
Race aside, do you know if ancient Egyptians knew what hours and weeks were, like the white cleopatra in the film said?
Completely right on the Cleopatra point! I thought it was weird when he said that because Cleopatras lineage is one of the most studied aspects of the later days of ancient Egypt. Although she did have a few Syrian/Iraqi descendants, by few I mean one that I know of, she was of greek/Hellenistic descent through and through. And as far as her complexion as an individual that is one of the biggest mysteries about her there is aside from her death. Her mother (or grandmother, can’t remember which) was never recorded and that is a very big “?” in her ancestry, but even paintings and painted busts aren’t reliable because in ancient Egypt it was customary to paint women paler than the tanner men because they were meant to represent beauty and subsequently higher class status, so we can’t really deduce anything from those. And the only Roman record we have of her was from Nero’s friend, which described her as very fair. So we a have Roman source from the friend of an Emperor who was the n-th great grandson of Mark Antony, so basically a rumor. There is no way to be absolutely sure, but sadly most of her lineage points to her being rather Hellenistic-looking. Despite that Cleopatra rant, yes, he was completely right about the early archeological operations consisting of racist white men, who thought any race other than white couldn’t possibly achieve what the ancient Egyptians had. Case and point being mummy brown paint :).
Made me uncomfortable, they're spreading this to children who might not know better then to check even "experts".
Blah, blah, blah. The Ancient Egyptians were Black. Trust me we know the truth. He's absolutely right we're only having this debate because of racist wm.
Oh lord, here we go, we knew you lot were showing up soon
I wish the people from Wired gave him context to the Moon Knight scene. I would have loved to hear him talk about Alexander the Great"s possible burial sites.
Wdym by that? The scene was given a zero anyways
this is Insider, not Wired
Lmao y’all definitely need to give him some context on moon knight 😭
Yeah 😂 I wish they told him that the guy fought 3 men and has his wounds healed by itself,and accidentally squished a car bumper with bare hands.And yeah...that couple are technically raiders...on daily basis 😂 (and especially the Ushabti one)
of course, MCU Stans are hurt
@@markpink9363 Nahh I'm cool,it's just kinda funny considering MK is in the thumbnail but they don't even cover it properly.
I was OBSESSED with ancient Egypt-everything growing up and that interest hasn't waned regardless of any historical inaccuracies in any of my favorite movies. I'd still love to visit modern Egypt some day and see all of the things
Were there Nubian Pharaohs? Yes. They ruled for about two centuries before being driven out of power. Is it possible Cleopatra was the same color as Halle Berry, sure, anything is possible. But she was of Greek heritage and the Ptolomies picked up the habit of marrying within their family just like the ancient pharaohs did, along with killing off those same relatives.
Okay, wow. Another ignorant person thinking the ancient Egyptians were black. They weren't black or white. They were Middle-Eastern, as clearly seen in how they are depicted in the paintings of the time.
I really love this series of experts passionately talking about their fields 🥰
He's not an expert.
He’s an idiot with a chip on his shoulder. So, I guess in the American sense, you could call him an expert, but in the practical sense, he’s just whinny grievance peddler with little factual knowledge in his field.
@@Ezullof Mr. Browder is the founder and director of IKG Cultural Resources and has devoted 30 years researching ancient Egyptian history, science, philosophy and culture. He has traveled to Egypt 54 times since 1980 and is currently director of the ASA Restoration Project, which is funding the excavation and restoration of the 25thdynasty tomb of Karakhamun in Luxor, Egypt.
@@missm2925 He comes across as someone with a race essentialist agenda, who is willing to ignore facts that do not meet his ends. Through, the Mediterranean, the Red Sea and the Nile, Egypt was a unique crossroads for a bunch of different cultures.
He isn't expert
You'd think an Egyptologist would know that Kemet or the Black Land referred to the black rich soil of the Nile delta and not to the people. Egyptians depicted themselves very distinctly different from the Nubians.
Which Nubians (there is more than one Nation of Nubians in the Nile Valley of the time), besides the fact Nubians is catch all for Racists and the name was never used for them by anyone until the Romans mentioned the word Nub (gold) and came in abunants from a particular spot.
@@qoreamani1532 Except even nubians did define them selves as nubians and it have nothing to do with romans or the imaginary racist people that lives in your head.
@@dickjones4356 Stop that BS, you can't produce not one ancient document to back that non-sense up🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wrong, Kemet was referred to land of the black for its people. Black sand is in Iceland. Kemet was the land of black people. But American history isn't accurate for obvious reasons
@@Osiris064 'black sand is in Iceland'? Are you implying that black people aren't found outside Egypt?
Btw, in the section on Gods of Egypt, the caption that is circled is NOT Anubis, that is Seth. The square ears and the drooping snout is the dead giveaway.
The little figure in the Moon Knight scene wasnt meant to be an ushabti. In this story it was the prison of a banned god and was hidden inside this body
uhh in the series they call it ushabti..
@@ashiinsane90 yeah they took inspiration from the real ushabtis and slightly changed it to fit the lore of the show as well so in this case it's not a ushabti functioning as they did irl but as an imprisonment for a god
@@eloraroot2604 I see
@@ashiinsane90Clear evidence that it's not their culture, who would innovate tradition for European media?! 😂 All they know is that they gotta keep Egypt away from blacks😂😂
lol. You should bring someone who understands history and archeology and who is an Egyptologist like Zahi Hawass and many others. Do not bring an ignorant person who does not even know the meaning of the word Kemit. In ancient Egyptian, the country's name was Kemet. This name holds a reference to the black and fertile soils that are lying in the Nile floodplains. In contrast, the word for a desert, which typically has red I sand, was "deshret" which translates to the desert's red land. Even though the name is pronounced as kemet in modern times, scholars argue that it was probably pronounced differently during its time. When the Egyptian language was in the Coptic phase, the name was slightly altered to "keme" while in Greek it was further altered to "Khêmía" (H). This is the meaning of the word Kemet. The civilization of my Egyptian ancestors was not black or white. The color of the ancient Egyptian was wheat and reddish brown. They never described themselves as black. But they described the Nubians and other African tribes in this color. Stop falsifying Egyptian history.
Zahi Hawass, who I used to love watching talk about ancient Egypt, has unfortunately had his integrity called into question. I understand your point in general. It's just that we also need to ensure those who have lost integrity with the scientific community are no longer in charge of some of the world's greatest artifacts.
saying egyptians aren’t black in 2023 with all this information is crazy stop claiming what Africans actually come from
@@nascontraband Find a bona fide Egyptologist who thinks the ancient Egyptians were black. You won’t find any. They weren’t white (except for the Ptolemaic rulers) and they weren’t black. They were brown, like Egyptians today. See their own depiction of themselves, especially depictions in which they interact with black Nubians, and this becomes obvious. The way to fight historical anti-black racism is not through a campaign of conspiracy theory and disinformation. That’s just fighting racism with racism. Historical, scientific truth is the best approach, for everyone. That’ll do enough to combat racism.
If we get another round, I'd love to see his take on "Asterix and Cleopatra" :D.
She does have a very pretty nose
ahahahahahah Asterix is the most inaccurate depiction of ancient Roman history you can find, it says Caesar is the "emperor" when in reality Gallia Comata as a province was created in 52BC and we're still far from the "official" birth of the Roman empire, Caesar met Cleopatra after the civil war in 48BC and had a son and never returned to Gallia , in the italian version (which I read as a kid) the romans speak Romanesco (which is a completely modern dialect which simply didnt exist until around the 1300s), it's just a big pot of stereotypes thrown in the ancient world but it's still so damn funny and I still love it
This guy is not an egyptologist and has zero academic qualifications in that field, he's also an ideologically charged afrocentrist who endorses pseudo-academic theories concerning Egyptian history and history at large, including claiming that the civilizations of Central America were built by black people who sailed from western Africa. It baffles me how he's described as an 'egyptologist' in this video. Also, the fact that he blatantly claims that the meaning of 'Kemet' is the "land of the blacks" exposes his utter lack of qualification in the fields of egyptology and linguistics, as well as his racially motivated agenda. Would've done better to host an egyptian egyptologist or at least any actual egyptologist for this 'critique'.
You’re not an expert, he is.
@@nicporter7263 how about you look up his academic qualifications? Also look up the meaning of the word 'Kemet' according to actual scholars and experts in the field to learn just how much of an "expert" this guy is.
@@samyebeid4534 so how about you become an expert and prove him wrong
@@nicporter7263 I don't need to be an expert to point out the fact that he's already been proven wrong by experts.
@@samyebeid4534 well they don’t have convincing arguments or else they’d be here and not him. Cry harder.
I don't mean to challege a professional but i feel like you are misconstruing the information here. The term "the land of the black" is commonly accepted by most ancient Egyptian specialists to refers to the rich black soil and not the peoples skin color. It would not make sense to call themselves the land of the black people when they were in contact with other African kingdoms like Kush and Punt. The Egyptian would have been North Africans with dark reddish brown skin like modern non Arab Egyptians (Coptic people). This can be seen in their art displaying other people paying tribute to them, where they depict themselves as red for men and yellowish-organgish for women in comparison to the dark skinned people of punt (Somalia and Eritrea), the light skinned people of Libyan, and the red haired people of Canaan (Levant). Their were populations of sub saharan Africans mercenaries form of Kush (Sudan) living in upper Egypt and caucasian populations of hittites and minoan merchants on the coast of lower Egypt. In fact the statues we see are of nubian mercenaries that protected the pharaoh and were famous for their archery. By the end of the classic period of Egypt for example, the Egyptian army would have been made up of foreign mercenaries from Kush, Libya, and philistine, and even early Greeks. The only true black (as we would understand it) dynasty of Egypt would have been the 25th dynasty founded by a Kush king after the bronze age collapse and fragmentation by the Libyans. In fact this is the dynasty that was fighting the neo assyrians in the bible but I can remember which book it is in. Also we don't have evidence suggesting Cleopatra had Halle Berry tone skin, her family were heavily inbred Macedonians of the Ptolemaic dynasty. We see this with all of her family, and at the time most of the ruling elite of Egypt would have been of greeco persian stock. Her image on her own coins and roman descriptions of her when she was in Rome would suggests she would be like to any woman of Turko-Greek ancestry. Though she did speak ancient Egyptian which was a rarity for her dynasty, as the hieroglyphics where slowly fading away in government documents. But is was still important enough that the Rosetta Stone was made to teach greek scholars to read and write it. Again I don't mean to challenge the guy with a PHD in ancient Egyptian archaeology and years of field experience, but what I am stating here is commonly excepted by the majority of the archeological community. Egypt has and will continue to be it's own cultural, and honestly that is more then enough to talk about.
You smart enough to get a phd
I appreciate your counter but maybe we should see if he has anything out [edit: supporting]proving his interpretation, no? He does have PHD and at this point I'd think it would be up to a non professional (my assumption since I don't know if you are/aren't) to provide evidence or sources in this case. Thanks for the lead though.
They showed the race in the clip when they referred to the archers of Egypt. They were black, you have been debunked.
No. What you are stating is not commonly accepted by the majority of the archeological community. It is quite literally the kind of white washed racist nonsense the archeological community has to constantly waste it's time debunking.
@@calebgregory1105 yeah, other more prominent Egyptologists WITH PHD's dispute him. Especially ALL of those that live in Egypt.
This is pretty good until the end. We know Kemet means "land of black soil" referencing the fertility of the Nile floodplain, not black people. Otherwise, they wouldn't have called Nubia Kush and depicted themselves differently from Nubians in art. North Africa and Sub-Saharan African are not the same groups, and we see this even with native Libyans of the time. They too made a distinction between themselves and those who lived deeper in Africa. We also know exactly what Cleopatra looked like, as the Ptolemys were infamous for inbreeding. And we have many commentaries on her looks, as well as coins minted in her image. She would have looked like a stereotypical Mediterranean Greek of the time: olive skin, brown hair; in addition, she was said to be beautiful.
Cleopatra also has nothing to do with the early dynasties of kemet, which by her reign wasn't even going by it's ancient name anymore. Cleopatra lived closer to our time than she lived to the construction of the pyramids. The thousands of depictions of indegenous Africans tell us that preinvasions ancient kemet was as "black" civilization
I did find those assertions odd. Cleopatra was certainly descended from ptolemaic Kings and whilst there was undoubtedly intermarriage, I doubt she would have looked like halle Berry. And yes, black land, land of black soil. Iv never heard it called land of the blacks. I think it quite simplistic to assume that. I come from a place in Britain called the Black Country, its named, not for the ethnicity of the population but for the black coal and smoke of the industry in that area In the 19th and 20th centuries. Its not always just down to skin colour.
Actually you’re wrong here. “Kemet” doesn’t mean land of the black soil but land of black. People THEORIZE it means black land bc of the black soil washed in by the Nile river. But we simply do not know. But there is a glyph depicting the symbols of “black” and “land”, but also has a man and a woman sitting right at the end. Two people sitting symbolizes the word “people.” And your comments about “sub-Saharan” vs “North” Africa exposes your lack of understanding of ancient Egypt. Egypt descended from the Naqada culture of southern Egypt and northern Sudan. They were not “Caucasian” people at all, but we’re indigenous Africans. Here’s what Egyptologists have said about Naqada people:” Some Craniometric analysis of predynastic Naqada human remains found that they were closely related to other Afroasiatic-speaking populations inhabiting the Horn of Africa and the Maghreb, as well as to Bronze Age and medieval period Nubians and to specimens from ancient Jericho.” So stop whitewashing history.
No they did not, the idea of sub-Saharan is stupid. The founders of Egypt were black and showed themselves that way Nubia was considered upper Kemer They shared the same culture and Nubians ruled at the height of Kemet power.
@@sankaratrucking5255 hmm no, that isn't true. You can clearly see a difference between the dark skinned people depicted in their art as from Nubia or Kush, further down the Nile and themselves as being more light skinned. Not like skinned I hasten to add, but light than black. They just didn't depict themselves that way. Also no...the height of Egyptian power was the early New Kingdom, roughly the 19th dynasty, about the 14th and 13th centuries BCE. The Nubian/Kushite dynasty came about 600 years later, during the 3rd intermediate period, long after the true egyptian pharoahs had gone. That was the 25th dynasty.
I'd love to see his take on Stargate as it attributes the Egyptian beliefs to be the result of aliens. It's be fun to see how accurate the base they use is
And Stargate SG-1
Oops. A Major major mistake. Kmt/Dshrt are the two countries of Egypt. Literally they mean colors Black/Red. Red denotes the desert of course which has never been occupied by Egyptians before the modern times. Egyptians live in the fertile land of Nile Valley: which its soil is very black. To this day, we call all farms and owned agricultural land "Teen which is black soil". I am very surprised that an educated Egyptologist missed the two most important countries of Egypt and only indicated they were to denote "black people". I am not aware of any black nation in Africa that calls itself 'Black'. Maybe we notice that we have dark complexion when we're in Europe, but Egyptians Never Ever identified ourselves against others. We just are ourselves. The gentleman himself is Black American and he looks suspiciously like my brother! I am sure everyone will talk to him as native today if he walks in Cairo :) But he did another mistake!!!! Cleopatra wasn't exactly "African" at all. Even her name is not Egyptian (and I am sure Mr Egyptologist knows how it was written by loan characters to keep pronunciation but not with meaningful egyptian words). Cleopatra is Greek (if Macedonians are Greek) from the last dynasty ever of independent Egypt by a General of Alexander called Ptolemy. They didn't mix much with Egyptians and even kept the "royal blood" in the family. Greeks look very much like the Northern Egyptians (Lower Egyptians) but unlike the Upper Egyptians (southern) who are the darker Egyptians. So Cleopatra would have passed as an Egyptian BUT Never like Halle Berry (she's a confirmed babe in Egypt 😉) and not like Nessa Diab (she's Egyptian) but more like Gal Gadot. Elizabeth Taylor was provoking to Egyptians. I am sure Greeks too who knew that Cleopatra was a Greek dynasty.
I don't know of any mixing within the Ptolemaic family, they were a very incestuous family. Which is sad to see an egyptologist say something like this.
exactly. The current brown skin color comes from getting mixed with the Arabs lots of centuries larer
@@franceskinskij Arabs are the smallest population in the entire middl6east from ancient times till today. Their scarce population and short time superiority cannot change the gene pool of Sudan or Egypt or any coubtry that claims to be Arabic today. Why Somalis claim Arabic today, their language isn't related to Arabic, but Ethiopia's languages are downright Semitic and related to Arabic more than any Arab country, but in fact, it rejects Arabism of its people. The Arab League of countries is mostly un Arab countries (ethnicity), but its what separates us from Turks, so I guess that's why it has been chosen. Don't try to understand history. Try to study it as it is, but don't say Egyptians are mixed with Arabs. I don't know why many Africans claim that. Specially Nubians. Is it because they're all Muslims? I don't know
@@Deadly_fox512 I believe there was a single seleucid princess who married one of her great-grandfathers.
@@nicholasricardo8443 so a greek marrying another greek? Lol
Man, I miss Chadwick Boseman.
Great video, I love the things I learned about ancient Egypt from this guy! I know it's far from historically accurate, but I still love the 1999 Mummy.
Why did he say we have a picture of them pouring oil or something to help ease moving but then say it didn't happen?
It was badly cut, pouring of water likely happened but not greasing of sand. We actually have a good idea of how they moved the stuff, it was wooden planks sled on wet sand. And boats, they even dug channels specifically to move rocks closer to building sites.
Next time, don't hire an afrocentrist to review Egyptian scenes. Also Kemet doesn't mean "land of the blacks" it means "land of black fertile soil". Egyptians were NOT sub saharan they were much closer to Arabs and Canaanites
No, the Egyptians were Egyptian, they literally still live there you can see what what they looked like today
@@nyalan8385 not disagreeing with that. But they weren’t black or sub Saharan. That’s just absurd on its face. Russians and Chinese live on the same continent and are absolutely not the same race
@@squidmix2857 yes, the Egyptians being Egyptian implies they are not black as well... Also their neighbors, the Nubians, who had a substantial population in Egypt itself, as well as playing a large role in the military and making up the entire 25th dynasty, while not Sub-Saharan African, were what many people would consider to be black today
white
@@nyalan8385 that highly debatable. Sudan is comprised of 70% Arab people and always has been. The kushites or midianites are descendants Abraham and his second wife keturah. Which makes them semitic and Israeli looking. They would more resemble Jordanians than anything
I'm disappointed that he didn't mention that Cleopatra might've been lighter skinned due to hellenic bloodline when egypt was Ptolemaic.
To be fair, he seems to be way too much on the "whitewashed" history train. It kind of shatters this image as an absolute thing of you recognise that Cleopatra being white is her most likely historically accurate depiction
@@Astropeleki true. But i get why people like him and big corporations like Disney would try to represent people of colors more. History is just swinging from whitewashing to coloring everything to the extreme. It's just like pulling a string too hard for long time and releasing it: it goes to the opposite end before it settles down in the balance.
Cleopatra most likely didn't have single drop of Egyptian blood only her mother and grandmother mother are unaccounted for buy following potelmy patterns of never marrying natives they were unlikely to be native egyptians. And all the so called tombs of her family are unconfirmed to belong to the potelmy dynasty even
Thank you, I was just coming down to mention that. Though the Greeks were very likely not blonde hair-blue eyed, I wouldn't say Elizabeth Taylors lighter skin and black hair would be out of the ordinary for a woman of Cleoplatra VII's heritage. However, there are some writings of women at the time including Cleopatra wearing likely red dyed hair and red colored wigs. They also used the symbol of the "Evil Eye" often made into jewelry and painted on the bow of Greek ships whose pupils were classically blue. So there is some evidence of there atleast being an awareness and even consitent trading with what we would modernly see as white people, but that likely came from tribes north of Greece who weren't exactly always on the friendliness of terms with their Mediterranean neighbors.
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Lol Alexander the great him self claimed to be an Egyptian from his true father Nectanebo II after the fall of Egypt he went to Greece with his Greek mercenaries to seek assistance from there.. When he was there he fell in love with Alexander's mother.. Philip had many wives at that time he might not be his true father.. Thats according to Alexander him self. But historians say this is a ruse made by Alexander to make Egyptians accept him..
An expert in Egyptology whom doesn't know that Kemet means black earth and is a reference to the land surrounding the Nile River, not race. There's a racial glyph done by the Ancient Egyptians that depicts the races of man, showing the Nubians as black, Greeks as white and the Egyptians and Phoneceians as brown.
I literally jumped to the comments to say this exact thing. You literally give false racial information in your explanation of racism about ancient Egypt. This is very bad because how many people walked away from this video thinking Egypt was initially called “land of black people” is just sad. This dude did the exact thing he was complaining of white dudes doing…. What was the motivation here???
Sundan means “land of the blacks.” Is that because of the soul too?
@@mr.knownothing33this has nothing to do with Egypt
Khem means "Deity".
Please bring him back! Love the brutal honesty it’s refreshing!
Bring him back? Video is only 1 day old
YES!! So many movie and TV scenes I'd love to hear his opinion to
No, don't. He was fine until he claimed that "kemet" meant "land of the blacks". Afrocentrism isn't scientifically accurate, and while it's understandable as a reaction to the scientific racism of f.e. early Egyptology (he's right about that), it's not proper scholarship. "Kemet", and this has been known at the latest since the mid 1990s, probably meant something like "fertile soil". And it's an unnecessary lie, because of *course* ancient Egyptians were North African with admixture from the peoples around them. An Englishman playing Ramses is historically inaccurate either way. Cleopatra was, as best as we can tell, Greco-Persian, though, and as such probably looked neither like Elizabeth Taylor, nor Halle Berry. Closer to Elizabeth Taylor, though, at least considering modern Greeks and Iranians.
He's full of nonsense
@@copyrightcharacter1166 says someone who's name is literally copyright character
Kemet referred to black soil, (Fertile soil) You know, the whole reason Egypt was established. Not land of black people
haha. Have you been to Egypt? I didn't see no black soil at all. maybe close to the Nile but otherwise...
@@NikWeber. Yes the black soil is found along the Nile and that is where they planted their seeds as it was also pretty much free irrigation. Really not that hard to grasp
@@NikWeber. they built in mid 20 century a dam and since then Nile doesn't overflow over huge area anymore, but in the past thhis was crucial for local agriculture
@@NikWeber. wow that's the dumbest comment. Congratulations!
@@NikWeber. I am Egyptian and i see black soil all the time. 😎
It was interesting to see an expert's advice on movies. But concerning the word "Kemet", as far as I know it does not mean "land of the Blacks", but "black earth" (as opposed to red earth = sand, the desert, which is infertile whereas black soil is fertile and full of neat minerals).
You are most incorrect.
I’m disappointed he went there. Any Egyptologist (unless they have an axe to grind) will tell you ancient Egyptians had varying skin tones.
@Andrew Hettinga varying skin tones of what we would call Black...and they assuredly called Black. Nice try tho...
Did you ever tried to translate anything? I did and can tell you that in many cases one word (let alone a sentence) can be translated in at least two ways both of them accurate and vice versa
@@maotisjan exactly...
Love this! This made me think of when I was young and always wanting to study Egyptian history/mythology. Great video!
Spielberg's The Prince of Egypt was the 1st time I could imagine what living ancient Egypt looked like. It is so well made, you feel like you're there
The Mummy (1999) is still the best
Historically inaccurate, but super fun
Rachel Maksy had a video with an Egyptologist on her channel reviewing The Mummy movie. It's worth a watch if you have some free time.
As far as istorical accuracy trust me it's a pile of trash now as far as entertainment it's average...
Agree!! Inaccurate nonsense, but an extremely fun film.
The black land quote is entirely inaccurate. It was originally meant to symbolize the deposits left by the nile flood - it has nothing to do with “black” people.
He is ignorant
This is amazing. Thank you for so much bew knowledge.
He cares a lot about the color of the skin and the race of people. As for Cleopatra, she is generally from the Greek-Macedonian dynasty. She could look like any modern Italian, Greek, Turkish and Arab woman - a typical Mediterranean type.
But the actual depiction of what she may have looked like doesn’t prove that. He’s 100% right for speaking on the white washing of Ancient Egyptians
correction: not Arab. The populations in Northern Africa at the time weren't "arabic", they were white. Italians and Arabs do not have the same skin tone. When the arabs conquered northern Africa they got mixed with the already existing populations which is why the skin tone you see in Syria, Israel, Lebanon and from Egypt to Morocco is mostly browner
Modern? 😂😂😂 STOP IT!
@@franceskinskij North Africa was never white, in fact natives (see Berbers for example) are DARKER skinned than Arabs. True, Arabian people's wouldn't appear in the land until 7th century with Islamic conquest but it doesn't mean Egyptians looked pale, look at how they depict themselves next to Phoenicians or Lybians, as golden-brown skinned people. Also Egyptians still exist and they have about same genetic base and they're kinda brown.
The reference image used at 11:20 for Anubis is actually of Seth..... Seth is always identifyable but the flat top of the ears.
Moon Knight was so epic, cant wait for season 2
In "The Ten Commandments", they weren't building a pyramid. They were building a city for for Pharaoh Seti I's jubilee.
I was about to comment this. Though it is a common myth and it is possible he didn't see the entire film and just assumed. Also, fun fact, even the Bible doesn't say the Jews built the pyramids so no idea where the myth came from.
@@RhinoBarbarian lol
@@RhinoBarbarian The earliest record of Jews being present in Egypt is a good 600 plus years after Seti I reign so it’s somewhat unlikely. The vast majority of Jews in Ancient Egypt were also employed as soldiers so it’s unlikely they’d be employed in large numbers in other industries.
Modern thinking is that the Israelites were actually an offshoot of Canaanites, and were never in Egypt. The Exodus is intended to establish a distinct history for the Israelite people, and a divine tie to the land. It's clear in the Torah that the Hebrew "God" exists alongside other local gods as people at that time did not conceive of an omnipresent being, but powerful beings who physically existed in certain areas. Despite their modern feud, it's likely that the Jews and Palestinians both have a legitimate claim to the land they now fight over.
Yeah, “no evidence that slaves built the pyramids.” I’m no “expert”, but, I was never under the impression that the pyramids were the product of slaves. That doesn’t mean Egyptians didn’t hold slaves.
Love how it’s either a 10 or a 0 with this guy
Real or fake lol no in between
He is either too harsh or too lenient, To me he seemed biased af
Dealing in extremes is for sure misguided.
Everyone (including Insider) seems to forget that there's no 0 on a 1 to 10 scale.
It’s like a college pass or fail class
Cleopatra was from the Ptolemeian line So she was probably white/olive/Greek/Mediterranean whatever you want to call it
Permanently tanned.
I’d love to know if this guy: 1) has played/seen Assassins Creed Origins 2) his thoughts on Egyptian history, culture, and accuracy represented in the game
Kemet actually just means "Black land", and referred to the color of the fertile Egyptian soil. There is very little evidence suggesting Cleopatra's half-sister was black. This idea was based on a headless skeleton that was found from the time period in Turkey which was theorized to belong to Arsinoe. The bones, however, belonged to a girl who was believed to have been 15-18 when she died, meaning they likely weren't Arsinoe's (Arsinoe IV was in her twenties when she died).
I´m curious is it true that Thoth was sometimes depicted as Human Body and Ibis head and sometimes as a baboon ? And why two diffrent animals ? Are there other gods that have two or more animals as representation ?
You have to keep in mind that gods were often amalgamations of hundreds of years of history and the merging of different cultures instead of one homogenous image. While I don't know too much about the Egyptian pantheon, I do know that they also combined gods. Usually this would result in the names simply being mashed together and conflicting depictions of the same deity. The various cults would adopt the name of other deities for their own in a similar role or if someone was conquered the conqueror might mix the two to increase compliance.
So Thoth represents two different gods at one time. As an Ibis, he is Thoth, the god of science, religion, magic, philosophy. But you're asking about him as a Baboon. That is A'an, the god of equilibrium. And when he's human, he's A'an-Djehuty. They're all symbolic of his powers and his wisdom, which caused the Greeks when they learned of him to attribute all writings to him as the original author.
the ushabti part is wrong (not because of the expert but because of the person who placed that specific piece) the point in the scene is that Mark/Steve is looking for it and the revelation is that it is INSIDE the mummy where it shouldn't be
I always found Ancient Egypt very interesting, amazing video
This was so enjoyable!!! Thank You!!!!
when I was a kid, I knew The Mummy have alot of inaccuracies, but boy I never knew it was this bad. 😂
LMAO I knew it was also (me studing Egypt at the time); but we have to keep it real: Brandon (and the cast) made you love it. I would have gotten chewed up and took it with a smile, for giving it a higher rating.
The ancient Egyptians weren't British white guys nor they called themselves as black While it's sad seeing an "Egyptologist" lying about the meaning of kemet nothing brings more pride as seeing someone wishing he belongs to your people and your ancestors
What I don't get is why Khonshu had to, in a move that caused him to be imprisoned, turn back time in a physical way, visible to everyone, to see what the stars looked like on a certain day. I have an app on my phone that does that.......
And that's why Khonshu has chosen you to be his Avatar... Use the app.
Probably to get the most accurate location. Also he is a god so why not?
He didn't turn back time.
@@extremepower5765 You are correct, he "can turn back the night sky." So he only turns back time for the night sky.
Anyone else just like how he talks? Like it’s so relaxing. I could fall asleep to a podcast if he had one
Oh, so Cleopatra would look like Halle Barry, eh? Last time I checked, Cleopatra was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty. Who are Macedonian Greek in origin (the founder, Ptolemy I/Ptolemy Soter was even a Macedonian Greek general and bodyguard of Alexander The Great) and there's only about five generations between Ptolemy I and Cleopatra. So I have to wonder, has this "expert" ever seen Greeks or Macedonians? I have, by virtue of visiting both countries and I didn't see a single one with the skin tone or african facial structure reminiscent of Halle Barry. Greeks and Macedonians are native European people's, and thus would be white. Now you could make the argument that native Egyptians/Kemet may have been black or at the very least dark skinned, but the ruling house of Ptolemy that conquered the independent Egypt were not originally FROM Egypt but from Macedonia. So they would not look like Africans at all. This whole "Black Cleopatra" bullcrap really needs to be put to bed.
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Kemet does not mean "land of the blacks" It means "Black land", referring to the fertile soil of Egypt. 0/10
Who told you that. Who taught you to read hieroglyphs??? They were clearly black don’t be butt hurt Karen.
@@sankaratrucking5255 literally every single egyptology book made by serious organizations like Yale or Oxford. See for yourself
@@M4th3u54ndr4d3 Kemet was a Black nation. They considered themselves Black in took pride in it. The culture came from the south. There are no Pyramids in Greece they did not worship the same gods. However there are pyramids in Sudan and in Ethiopia and they worshiped the same gods and upper Egypt was in the south. And I have been in tombs the people on the walls look like my family the pharaohs have Afros and locs. Stop it Arabs came later that’s why they burned libraries and destroyed temples.
@@sankaratrucking5255 you can say whatever you want, but the DNA is a proof. Science is science
@@M4th3u54ndr4d3 I don’t give a damn about Cleopatra. Ancient Kemet DNA is African Cheikh Diop did research to prove this and you can read “Black Genesis” by two white British Scientists who proved this as well. Give me a book or scientist that proves or gives evidence to your point???
Glad this popped up on my feed
Norman Reynolds was the production designer on Raiders. A Genius
How could you leave out Asterix & Obelix mission Cleopatra?
Aren't Asterx and Obelisk French ? This expert is Egyptologist, not Frenchologist man 😁
@@hohuy1469 Come back after you watch the movie.
@@Alpaslann why waste time watching this trash....
I remember watching this movie "Pharaoh" based on the book by Polish author, Boleslav Prus. It looked rather authentic. It is probably not widely known.... But I wonder what the narrator would think of it.
He says the armor is accurate, but I’m fairly certain the Egyptians didn’t have scale male armor. All the books I’ve read said they went without such armor.
even scale armour isn't scale armour... scale mail didn't really exist. What people usually mean when they refer to/say scale armour is such as Laminar, Lamellar, or Lorica plumata. Mail is specifically when referring to, using the more modern term "chain-mail". Some have also mistakenly included Lorcia Segmentata as "scale mail".
The tomb of Tutankhamun contained scale armor, and depictions of the Pharaoh show him in scale, but most soldiers in the Egyptian army would have likely fought shirless or with padded textile (linen) armor, similar to a medieval gambeson.
13:40 The hook is pretty obvious, as it is a common depiction of Jesus' shepherd staff. The flail have always puzzled me, as I have mistaken it for a whip, like a cat o nine tails. It all makes sense. Your description of its symbolic value as a fly swatter or a remedy for chasing away unwanted elements, made the pieces of my puzzle finally fall into place. Thank you so much. 😄
While the hook is like Jesus's staff The flail remind me of the "whisk" that lot of Asia Gods have on their hand, especially Chinese Gods
A flail is an agricultural instrument used to thresh wheat and it represents the fertility of the land. Wheat was incredibly important to Egypt and the source of much of their wealth and power. Their alliance with Rome and the protection it offered was largely because of their ability to supply Rome with grain. Some historians interpret the flail as symbolising this. Some also interpret it to symbolise order / punishment / authority , the harsher side of governance in contrast to the softer guidance represented by the crook. However, I’ve never read or heard any historian describe it as a fly swatter to swat away enemies of Egypt. As both symbols we’re always depicted together it makes the most sense that they would be representing two contrasting and complimentary roles of the Pharaoh. So the crook representing encouragement and guidance with the flail representing the Pharaohs coercive power & authority over the flock if they go astray.
@@ngovandang1997 It’s a shephards crook, not a hook. The horsetail whisk you refer to actually was a kind of fly swatter but in the context of Buddhism it represents the swatting away of unwanted thoughts.
@@pmc8451 thanks for the infomations
You should give context to the experts, he gives a 0 to moon knight, but you should explain that why hes doing it and that hes not raiding it
Hey Insider I repeat what did I say wrong??? I'm a Sudanese citizen married to an Egyptian "black" native we are from Aswan we live in luxor Egypt 🤷🏾♂️so once again I repeat what did I say wrong for you to shadowban my replies??? How come others are allowed to lie and you don't hide their comments but every time I tell the truth my comments magically disappear??? I'm talking to the moderator of this channel answer my question sir stop hiding in the shadow this is injustice look this is my government name I'm not hiding I'm a real person defending the African legacy of both my countries Egypt and Sudan why does insider have a problem with that I'm respectful here so what's the problem???
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You are black. Which means you are not Egyptian. And you will never be Egyptian.
I love that he set the record straight on who were the true Egyptians
As a military history nut (especially pre-gunpowder), I have a problem with the Exodus battle scene. Although I don't know much about ancient Egypt's warfare, I don't think they would have mounted cavalry. Chariot cav, of course... There was that guy that fell from the horse and got dragged by a strap. This couldn't be a stirrup, because stirrups didn't come into common use in cavalry until some time in the Dark Ages. So, what did he get hung up on? Next, is the line of battle: whomever Rameses was charging had to be the biggest tactical buffoons in military history, or the movie got it completely wrong. 1) the line was set too low and the spears were too short to defend against a charge of horse. 2) The line was too shallow, I saw maybe three ranks when there should have been more like eight--at least! 3) Horses, by instinct, don't run at things, they run away from things. It is very difficult to train horses for war. Moreover, I don't think the Ancient Egyptians would have used chariots to smash infantry lines. More likely, they would have used sweeping maneuvers, using their speed to pass in front of the enemy lines to launch missile attacks with bows and javelins. Once a chariot stops or slows, it's vulnerable and useless. Over all, Exodus gets a 0/10 for military accuracy
Exodus gets 0 for religious accuracy as well, I mean, it adapted the story from the Bible and did it worse than a Metallica song.
*This man is not an Egyptologist.* From the website of the foundation he personally created through which he does all his work, "Anthony T. Browder is an author, publisher, cultural historian, artist, and an educational consultant. He is a graduate of Howard University’s College of Fine Arts and has lectured extensively..." The site also describes him in quotes as a "'Cultural Memory Specialist.'" In academia, being an "Egyptologist" implies a Graduate degree in either Linguistics or Archaeology. You are either an academically certified expert in the ancient Egyptian language, or in ancient Egyptian antiquities. Mr. Browder attended Howard College of Fine Arts which offers no doctorate at all, the sole master's degree is in Studio Art, and the nearest applicable degree is a *bachelor's in Art History.* The College of Fine Arts was recently renamed the Chadwick A. Boseman College after the *actor* who played Black Panther. So...not an "Egyptologist."
I would love to hear a critique of the Assassin's creed origins game's Egyptian setting
I feel like some context has to be explained to the dude. For example MoonKnight, it's based on comics, not real life Egypt. The source material is based on Egiptyan mitology however you can imagine how a TV adaptation of comics, that on it's own are an adaptation of real life can be over the top. In Moon Knight, canonically, the Ushabti were a depiction of the trapped gods, and Ammit's Ushabti was put inside the mummy because it's the one place raiders wouldn't know to search
There is an error at 11:19: the picture at this point shows Set and not Anubis. You can see that at the hooked nose and his ears. Anubis' nose ist straight. Also the ears are bit different to them of Anubis. Also the the picture is from a wall of Nefertaris temple in Abu Simble which shows Ramses getting crowned from Set and Horus. Also 14:41 this picture is wrong and not from the temple in kom ombo. It is far to good preserved to be from a temple. It is in fact from the tomb of Nefertari, the wife of Ramses II. Those are errors which everybody can check with googling it. Also it is sad, that the fact that The Mummy tried to reconstruct the ancient egyptian language was not even mentioned is quite sad. Sorry no thumb up from my side for this video.
I love The Mummy and The Mummy Returns
I was looking forward to seeing a high score on Moon Knight since it was actually directed by two Egyptians who worked hard to make it as authentic as possible, and had several Egyptian actors. The behind-the-scenes showed they went great lengths to make the tombs look like they do in real life. After reading the comments on how he's not a real Egyptologist I feel a little better. The series really made me interested in learning more. I'm European myself so I only know what others have said.
"He's not a real Egyptologist" How on Earth did you come to that conclusion? Look up his C.V. someday; he's been to Egypt 54 times since 1980; devoted the past 30 years of his life to researching ancient Egyptian history, science, philosophy and culture and is the current Director of the ASA Restoration Project, which is funding the excavation and restoration of the 25thdynasty tomb of Karakhamun in Luxor, Egypt.
@@junibug6790 They told you in their last sentence, if you bothered to read it. Official or not, he seems to have a rather peculiar take on Cleopatra and the word "Kemet". There are religious leaders all over the world for thousands of religions, would you say they're all correct, or that they merely preach something they believe in?
@@junibug6790 What Bob Yamanaka said. The majority of the comments I read (and I read a lot) were very skeptical about his background and agenda and pointed out several things he got wrong. I am aware that KZhead comments are not a reliable source.
@@junibug6790nice, too bad you did not include the fact he only has a Bachelor's degree in Arts major and is pretty much self taught on ancient Egypt. Not to mention he self publishes a lot and he also got the funds from the studies he did from his own organization
@@malinpetersson4182This man is world renowned. Just say that your racism doesn't allow for truth to be accepted. With your 0% birth rate😂😂
Salute Anthony Browder
Dang, I don't think I have ever seen an expert rate a scene as 0 before.
Watch the Blacksmith one, he is also brutal lol
This is awesome. Thank you Mr. Browder!🙌🏾💫