Kobe Bryant: What Basketball Taught Him About Business

2016 ж. 27 Қаз.
159 256 Рет қаралды

Former NBA player Kobe Bryant is now the CEO of Kobe Inc. and general partner of Bryant Stibel. He talks with WSJ's Dennis K. Berman at the WSJDLive conference in Laguna Beach, Calif. on what basketball taught him about business.
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  • Kobe is a master. He handles this poor interviewers attacks he was poised and skilled

    @Outta12@Outta124 жыл бұрын
    • Sweatshop?

      @unajohnson8797@unajohnson87974 жыл бұрын
    • This interviewer is very hostile like he wants to prove Kobe is out of his league... I’m offended for Kobe...

      @131e55@131e554 жыл бұрын
    • Don't forget he's the one and only legit black mamba can kills anyone in one powerful strike. RIP Kobe 🙏🐍🌹❤

      @ronaldlee7566@ronaldlee75663 жыл бұрын
    • Kobe is eloquent as usual, but I don't see the interviewer attacking.

      @Ali_Raza808@Ali_Raza808Ай бұрын
  • The interviewer needs to humble himself a little bit when he's sitting next kobe. One of the greatest athletes ever while he's very intelligent and well spoken. Great all around man

    @ArmandoKozomara@ArmandoKozomara7 жыл бұрын
    • Armando Kozomara Not necessarily a great all around man but yes I agree.

      @yurhomi4478@yurhomi44787 жыл бұрын
    • no? elaborate?

      @garyodriscoll7988@garyodriscoll79887 жыл бұрын
    • cheating on his wife and all that.

      @yallaaAIC@yallaaAIC7 жыл бұрын
    • So he's bound by that time when you judgmental people got a look into his married life and he can't be a great man? Nice! You've never experienced grace or growth if that's your thinking. Like Kobe said, don't speak on things you know nothing about, do you know him to say he's not a great man?

      @enjoliburries293@enjoliburries2937 жыл бұрын
    • Que the Liberal P.C....

      @garyodriscoll7988@garyodriscoll79887 жыл бұрын
  • In retrospect (first time seeing this video), I'm glad this guy is the interviewer. If not, I would never have seen how Kobe handles a passive agressive, obnoxious interviewer.

    @mikeham7251@mikeham72514 жыл бұрын
    • My initial thought 😂

      @TheDiaryoftheBoy@TheDiaryoftheBoy Жыл бұрын
  • The interviewer...the interviewer...the interviewer... I listened and within the first 3 minutes I was quite irritated by this guy and then it hit me... Greatness is displayed here in Kobe's ability to sit for over 20 minutes, maintain excellence and composure and verbal respect despite his 'opponent'. You could quite possibly miss all the knowledge Kobe has to share because of the host's abrasive and condescending approach to this interview. But 3 minutes in, Kobe's demeanor is what encourages me to keep listening.

    @servHis221@servHis2217 жыл бұрын
    • You are absolutely right. Because the interviewer was SO bad... only showed off the impressive talent / smarts / sophistication of Kobe Bryant that much MORE. RIP Kobe. He had so much more to share and teach.

      @RiderRescue@RiderRescue4 жыл бұрын
    • Yes I agree, and first off, look at the interviewers body language. Its so slouchy, and his tone makes you want to slap him. He is so horrible! I commend Kobe for staying this interview, I'd call that guy out and leave if I was Kobe, but Kobe didnt because hes great!

      @Ren0799@Ren07994 жыл бұрын
    • Grateful you shared your perspective.

      @drainodrew@drainodrew2 жыл бұрын
  • The interviewer should quit his job or be fired. He had no interest in the conversation and was constantly interrupting or cutting Kobe off.

    @andrew_8317@andrew_83177 жыл бұрын
    • Yes

      @unajohnson8797@unajohnson87974 жыл бұрын
  • This is not how you interview a legend.

    @atulsharma6818@atulsharma68184 жыл бұрын
    • this is not how you interview someone in general!

      @that_dude_tk7327@that_dude_tk73272 жыл бұрын
  • 30 seconds in and I had to scroll down to see if everyone else felt the same way about the interviewer. JFC.

    @alexandercarr5492@alexandercarr54924 жыл бұрын
  • 2 things -thou shall never interrupt kobe while speaking - thou shall ingest a satchel of richards for those who choose too. RIP Mamba Y Mambacita !

    @anthonygarcia1467@anthonygarcia14674 жыл бұрын
  • This guy didn’t realize when Kobe was taking about “playing with person’s insecurities” it was directed towards him. But went over his head. The interviewer asked for an example and he hit him with one. Lol Kobe is a 🐐

    @ericwhitfield8636@ericwhitfield86362 жыл бұрын
  • Not a big Kobe fan but he definitely impressed me with his response to such a shitty interviewer. I like how Kobe remained composed and stayed on point considering the constant rude interruptions and just plain weird a$$ Segway - "US kids are now sweatshops for China??" wtf?? that was just outta bounds. This dude has no business interviewing intelligent beings.

    @femisulu3578@femisulu35787 жыл бұрын
    • Kobe put him in his place in the final minute. #Mamba4Life

      @TheJRo@TheJRo4 жыл бұрын
  • Black mamba for ever rip mentor🖤

    @elamine4713@elamine47134 жыл бұрын
  • Watching this interview of Kobe is so up lifting and inspirational ... his legacy will live on through many generations. When you feel like quitting, get back to the basics...follow your passion...BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF.

    @kimora9088@kimora90884 жыл бұрын
  • Kobe rocks!

    @tresagah@tresagah7 жыл бұрын
  • I'm very disappointed in WSJ for allowing Dennis Berman to interview one of the greatest sports figures all time. They should've chose someone else.

    @Oakley63tall@Oakley63tall7 жыл бұрын
    • facts this guy is a dickhead.

      @Hbadul@Hbadul7 жыл бұрын
    • I agree!!!

      @MostLoyal_@MostLoyal_4 жыл бұрын
    • 💯💯💯

      @TheJRo@TheJRo4 жыл бұрын
  • This dude should never be allowed to interview anyone ever again

    @WhateverItTakesMotivation@WhateverItTakesMotivation4 жыл бұрын
  • You can tell Kobe was a bit irritated by the arrogant interviewer at 2:50

    @lmw1996@lmw19967 жыл бұрын
  • Interviewer was very condescending. Was very tough to watch. But man I know Kobe is going to be successful in this next step in his life. Good luck to him

    @antoineb9371@antoineb93717 жыл бұрын
  • This guy is the absolute worst interviewer

    @drews0n@drews0n7 жыл бұрын
    • I thought I was the only that thought that

      @IdrissTVShow@IdrissTVShow4 жыл бұрын
    • @@IdrissTVShow me me too! the interviewer is horrible!

      @ljkoch@ljkoch4 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, he gets aggravated after Kobe tones down his fanboy-ness.

      @scaggly9239@scaggly92394 жыл бұрын
  • Hey interviewer -- tone it down. You''re there to interview one of the greatest athletes alive today.

    @GoBlue7171@GoBlue71717 жыл бұрын
  • This is how we're interviewing LEGENDS? This guy need to find another line of work. Seriously.

    @CarlitaCosmetics@CarlitaCosmetics4 жыл бұрын
  • 18:01 Interviewer: "So wait, are you writing a novel?? Is that news here?" Kobe: "No, I don't think so, maybe it is, a lot of people don't really pay attention to what I have to say..." BOOM.

    @benedettapadoan6510@benedettapadoan65104 жыл бұрын
  • The interviewer needs help, He didn't do very well. Kudos to Kobe btw.

    @GODSSON365247@GODSSON3652477 жыл бұрын
  • That's what happens when you allow a non sports editor to interview a sports icon. Happy for Kobe. Biggest thing I took away is the patience part. Guy totally gets it

    @michaelblasko5207@michaelblasko52077 жыл бұрын
  • Kobe Bryant was more than a basketball player.Listen how he explains everything.He was the best.

    @marywilliams1573@marywilliams15734 жыл бұрын
  • come on WSJ ...where did you get this guy to interview Kobe? horrible. Kobe did a good job explaining in a calm and intelligent way.

    @ckimpeter@ckimpeter4 жыл бұрын
  • The interviewer is very disrespectful, Kobe is a very prestigious person and has a hard work ethic reputation not only in basketball but in multiple overall healthy aspects of life. I mean yeah, maybe Kobe sometimes said things or came out seemingly over confident; but that just comes with the pure drive, natural responses, and emotion of being a highly physical male athlete in a professional sport. This guy is successful man and this interviewer is only hurting himself by being disrespectful; how many people know about Kobe and idolize him, how many people know this interviewer??

    @shawnpeterson1825@shawnpeterson18257 жыл бұрын
    • True, however Kobe is part of the business world as well, being considered in some light an entrepreneur since he is paid for his own work, being contracted for a team that is part of a professional association for professional athletes he is paid by how much value he brings to the marketplace through his work; the marketplace in this sense would be the NBA. This is why he is highly paid athlete because he has worked hard to put himself in the position to where he has become value and is paid more than others in NBA; this has also opened up other business opportunities for Kobe Bryant since he is an icon to basketball players around the world companies have targeted Kobe Bryant to use his name as a advertising and marketing point of sale, this is why he has contracts with companies such as Nike, Kobe is a business man and has been involved in investments since his first shoe contract with Nike, also any basketball camps or anything Kobe does independently is also considered free enterprise, Kobe also has been known to donate money to non-profit organization, and is now being interviewed by WSJ which is about his upcoming book business he is investing in and creating. Giving information is learning, because you allow yourself to be open to new ideas, by being close minded (the interviewer) not able to receive intelligence from Kobe's wisdom, only hurts himself. People become optimal when they work with one another, not deny each other

      @shawnpeterson1825@shawnpeterson18257 жыл бұрын
  • Is it me, or is this interviewer very ANTAGONISTIC? Kobe's a guest. Not a criminal being prosecuted by an attorney. ps RIP Kobe. Way to keep your dignity and composure with this bully.

    @GoShiggyGo@GoShiggyGo4 жыл бұрын
  • The person who’s interviewing, just maybe nervous!! But Kobe was handling it❤️

    @gorgeouswales9635@gorgeouswales96354 жыл бұрын
    • No he was a bigoted egghead that was trying Kobe and all he kept talking about was definitely trying to pigeon hole Kobe Bryant. I'm glad Kobe won an Oscar for Dear Basketball.

      @denisedean2446@denisedean24464 жыл бұрын
  • kobe has always liked the idea of super heroes. i remember him talking about peoples skill level and he was comparing it to heroes. old interview. i love this cat. man

    @LiLBankai@LiLBankai7 жыл бұрын
  • RIP KOBE WE LOVE YOU AND WILL NEVER FORGET

    @leandrososa9273@leandrososa92734 жыл бұрын
  • kobe puts so much focus and detail into whatever he's doing I think he will be very successful in this next chapter of his life

    @Jporter196@Jporter1967 жыл бұрын
    • unfortunately... his life ended too early

      @blindsurgeonc@blindsurgeonc4 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer is categorically unprofessional. Is rude, expletive, ignorant. He makes WSJ look like a bunch of amateurs. Highly disappointed in the selection of the interviewer. May say something about the organization in general.

    @samuelson4244@samuelson42447 жыл бұрын
    • Samuel Son agreed what a fuckin jerk

      @SpardaDeleon@SpardaDeleon7 жыл бұрын
  • I don't like this interviewer, he comes off as so condescending

    @Ren0799@Ren07994 жыл бұрын
  • Great interview, smart, straightforward, no-bullshits. Have to say Kobe is an intelligent people, not his play style but as a person, he's intelligent

    @wxxcable@wxxcable7 жыл бұрын
  • #Rip_Kobe 🙏🙏

    @lionsdul@lionsdul4 жыл бұрын
  • I have to tell you, this was one of the most condescending, cringe worthy interviews of an individual, whose business acumen should have commanded him more respect, that I have ever seen. in fact I showed it to my students as an example of what NOT to do as a journalist.

    @lmaniviney1255@lmaniviney12554 жыл бұрын
    • The interviewer is definitely not a real journalist. He didn't do his homework, instead he kept using his own limited understanding of human being ability to be a multi faceted success when they really know who they are and what their passion is. Terrible job! He thought he's interviewing some dumb person who only know how to dribble a ball and assume the adults in the room where they are the "smart" ones. Horrible job WSJ...very little respect for Kobe!

      @mxonov@mxonov4 жыл бұрын
    • Kobe handled himself extremely well. Many of my mentors in journalism would be ashamed of this interviewer.

      @jia1596@jia15964 жыл бұрын
  • i really want to watch this but the interviewer is almost making it unbearable

    @enott93@enott937 жыл бұрын
  • Kobe's a beast; so wise and driven

    @MrGangstNerd@MrGangstNerd7 жыл бұрын
  • 12:25 Kobe the Legend speaks

    @sanjaybryant9220@sanjaybryant92207 жыл бұрын
  • So very inspiring! I could listen to him speak for hours

    @judithgould4363@judithgould43634 жыл бұрын
  • After Reading the comments this guy lost his job after this interview

    @MostLoyal_@MostLoyal_4 жыл бұрын
  • So intelligent...beautiful just listening to him explain life.....RIP kobe

    @dailyoptions7832@dailyoptions78323 жыл бұрын
  • RIP Kobe Bryant

    @iliyano567@iliyano5674 жыл бұрын
  • So many inspiring takeaways from this. Thank you Kobe

    @jonneye@jonneye4 жыл бұрын
  • This was super uncomfortable; it felt like a job interview. The host was constantly asking Kobe difficult questions as if to prove Kobe knows what he's talking about. Still, Kobe knocked most of them out of the park and showed that he doesn't know everything but he does know where he's going. In a way I think this was a good way for Kobe to show the business community he means business.

    @fabsmaster5309@fabsmaster53097 жыл бұрын
  • I love you kobe thank you for the inspiration. God bless you gigi and Everyone else who passed in that crash! We're going to celabrate you for ever

    @hervekabeya7464@hervekabeya74644 жыл бұрын
  • Extremely condescending and discomforting interviewer.. Just sad. Very intelligent and insightful subject matter by Kobe that was mishandled by the interviewer and his only self-defeating negative thoughts

    @g4life78@g4life787 жыл бұрын
  • Rip 26 01 2020 the legend

    @xforever5280@xforever52804 жыл бұрын
  • There's just something very off with this interviewer, i don't know if it's the way he presents his question's or the negative vibe ( bodylanguage) his giving off, either way, WSJ - shame on u guys... for allowing this guy to talk to kobe like he was an average joe from the block...

    @kintuvlogs1081@kintuvlogs10816 жыл бұрын
  • Interview should be titled "White men hate to see black men win and be stronger and smarter than them"

    @moniquecobb9051@moniquecobb90514 жыл бұрын
    • You forgot "and better looking!"

      @AvecPoesie@AvecPoesie4 жыл бұрын
  • Mr. Kobe Bryant is possibly amongst those very few sporting superstars who has a serious intellectual bent of mind. Sorry, I can’t address him in the past tense. (An admirer from India 🇮🇳).

    @jayd7238@jayd72384 жыл бұрын
  • Kobe’s response is awesome

    @princeamu@princeamu3 жыл бұрын
  • he answered these questions so great

    @DonawaVi@DonawaVi3 жыл бұрын
  • We Love You and Miss you Kobie!

    @ladyashephd727@ladyashephd7274 жыл бұрын
  • RIP to one of the greatest to grace the court 8️⃣&2️⃣4️⃣

    @NoKizy@NoKizy4 жыл бұрын
  • Miss kobe so much on the court but he is doing well now. Hopefully we'll see big things from kobe soon!

    @ArmandoKozomara@ArmandoKozomara7 жыл бұрын
  • This is excellent

    @SteveRiceCrownsCapCo@SteveRiceCrownsCapCo7 жыл бұрын
  • Terrible ignorant interviewer & questions but Kobe answered with his true heart with humility 💜💛 What a great mind & tremendous loss in the world 🙏🏼✨🌊 He was a philosopher not just a "sports figure" with 5 championships, Olympic gold medalist, author, investor and family man! Rest in peace Kobe & Gianna 💕🕊

    @conniemeichan8359@conniemeichan83594 жыл бұрын
  • Somehow the interviewer thinks he knows something Kobe doesn't. Like asking a child what he or she thinks they are doing.?

    @bye6558@bye65584 жыл бұрын
  • The interviewer makes me cringe. The arrogance 🤦‍♂️Can I somehow mute him and only listen to Kobe? Stop interrupting. Kobe was greater than basketball. Inspiring others...to inspire others. #ForeverLegend/ForeverMamba #GreaterThanInfinity ♾

    @TheJRo@TheJRo4 жыл бұрын
  • I know this interview got that guy demoted in some way. He had no interest in the interview nor did he grasp Kobe's passion for what he's trying to accomplish now. It was actually sad to watch what could have been an amazing interview go south.

    @TheKicksLounge@TheKicksLounge7 жыл бұрын
  • Terrible job interviewing by Dennis. Examples: 1) "You were thinking this when you were 19???" 2) "So America is the Sweatshop for China?" 3) "Do you think your life being on teams, helps you truly understand a team in the BUSINESS setting. Maybe it's totally different! I mean if you need someone to pass the ball or block out that's fine..." 4) Wait you were playing basketball and writing a novel!?? 5) "I have no idea! Tell me!" 5).. among many sad others.. ...

    @g4life78@g4life787 жыл бұрын
    • Try to be cool

      @mikatteba225@mikatteba2256 жыл бұрын
    • brought up his efficiency straight up which was the poorest aspect of one of the greatest career in basketball

      @Nopanop@Nopanop3 жыл бұрын
  • RIP KOBE

    @charlenewalker7891@charlenewalker78914 жыл бұрын
  • That interviewer needs to be fired.

    @Outta12@Outta124 жыл бұрын
  • Realizing Kobe did everything

    @korbymakongoro6996@korbymakongoro6996 Жыл бұрын
  • People that call Kobe arrogant will never reach his level of success. He has the work ethic and accolades to back it up. So keep playing madden and 2k and call Kobe arrogant while he is doing shit.

    @ItsTheJourney24@ItsTheJourney247 жыл бұрын
  • Rip kobe

    @diawaprolite7967@diawaprolite79674 жыл бұрын
  • 18:07 shots fired lol

    @mgfos207@mgfos2077 жыл бұрын
  • #MAMBAFOREVER

    @milescrawford5033@milescrawford50334 жыл бұрын
  • KOBE FOR PRESIDENT

    @LakerPlayerFan@LakerPlayerFan7 жыл бұрын
    • Didn't see his name on the ballot box today, what gives?

      @jrei7448@jrei74487 жыл бұрын
  • Genius!

    @PickoWebba@PickoWebba7 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer is the worst.

    @flavorconnect@flavorconnect7 жыл бұрын
  • *6-19-20* *Answer* to many of the *why's* in this comment section: When a person is *uncomfortable* in their own skin, they will *question* other's knowledge and abilities, to make themselves feel better about *themselves* . This becomes a type of *food* for their sad way of thinking. We must pray🙏 for that type personality, for I wouldn't wish it upon anyone . *Thank you Kobe* , for you were very comfortable in your skin. You contributed much, in so many ways. You are missed in so many ways. One of a kind, indeed.

    @reallythankful2856@reallythankful28563 жыл бұрын
  • I came up with a new verb: to kobe bryant ; meaning: a conscious effort to do the necessary work in order to become the best version of yourself with laser focus on every little detail which might make the difference on the outcome. Example: - Hey, what are you up to? - Kobebryanting my life up. Cheers!

    @fdavyes@fdavyes4 жыл бұрын
  • Rest in peace 🕊️ you did your thing in life and now as well rest up dove 🕊️ 🤍

    @themovement1092@themovement109211 ай бұрын
  • Interviewer is like a fidgety child. I hope he reads these comments.

    @PS360c@PS360c7 жыл бұрын
  • Kobe a true champion

    @sylvah0446@sylvah0446 Жыл бұрын
  • MAMBA FOREVER

    @chickenfawk236@chickenfawk2362 жыл бұрын
  • WSJ, I and many others are very upset by YOUR HR's decision to have this amatuer interview Kobe Bryant( The GOAT ). Maybe you should have Kobe run the business because he seems much more intelligent than the interviewer, which again YOU WSJ chose.

    @Nathancmier94@Nathancmier947 жыл бұрын
  • I would love to listen this guy and his basketball/business mentality all day long. Can't get enough.

    @CvetoNMK@CvetoNMK7 жыл бұрын
  • The commentator really needed more experience and imo just more wisdom to ask better questions for an interview like this. Kobe has incredible patience to not get peaved by the basic questions and comments this guy makes. He seems to be entertained with the next question rather than actually listening to kobe. Also if you can take away anything from Kobe its not about the achievements or the stats as much as its about the craft. This guy is very focused on the wrong things...

    @user-fx8zx3ks6j@user-fx8zx3ks6j2 ай бұрын
  • HORRIBLE. Who gave this guy a degree in Journalism? Do you not understand Kobe would like to discuss his business, (NOT) his basketball experiences. Respect him for his business, understand his struggles on the court, but by all means... Respect him for his business.

    @sundaylastnameblack@sundaylastnameblack7 жыл бұрын
  • Calm and collected, the Bean is detached🧘‍♂️

    @MINDFULHOOPS@MINDFULHOOPS16 күн бұрын
  • Kids don't read novels? Is Harry Potter not considered a novel?

    @lajunascott4653@lajunascott46537 жыл бұрын
    • He is accurate. Majority of kids don't read novels these days.

      @JoeJacksonGT3@JoeJacksonGT37 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer killed the interview.........

    @Mohamedhanaffi@Mohamedhanaffi7 жыл бұрын
  • the host is a bitter little troll

    @ronthemogul@ronthemogul7 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer I suspect has racist over tones. However I could be wrong.

    @EricJohnsonresign@EricJohnsonresign7 жыл бұрын
    • Nite Tyme he’s miserable. Grilled him on LinkedIn already

      @empowermentplan5476@empowermentplan54764 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer is ridiculously absurd, condescendingly idiotic. Horrible job WSJ! He thinks he's so "smart" and asking the dumbest questions and constantly interrupting. I am very impressed the way Kobe could answer and pivot with such poise and intelligence. Speaks volume of who Kobe was. Still hurt to address Kobe in past tense.

    @mxonov@mxonov4 жыл бұрын
  • I agree to everyone's comments regarding the interviewer's way of asking questions. He obviously has lack of experience on "how to be the best" at what he does. I've been listening to youtube videos while working on a different tab, and I had to click back on the youtube tab just to see who this interviewer was. Got irritating hearing this guy but definitely picked up some wisdom from Kobe B. as always.

    @DreaDom@DreaDom4 жыл бұрын
  • Kobe’s excellence made the interviewer look brutally incompetent like a newborn baby 🤣

    @Dancestudent08@Dancestudent087 ай бұрын
  • 18:05 Did the interviewer take the hint? Nope.. Shows the intelligence and resilience of Kobe during this torture of an interview.

    @yigitcanarin4156@yigitcanarin41563 жыл бұрын
  • Most of the comments are about the interviewer, and not kobe

    @Michael-st9ky@Michael-st9ky4 жыл бұрын
  • How do you have the worst of the worst interview interviewing one of the greatest minds in terms of basketball and to an extend even business and investments now. The Wall Street Journal needs to do a recheck on this interviewer. The way he speaks and certain parts of the interview with Kobe, he just feels very disrespectful and incompetent.

    @Majima23@Majima235 жыл бұрын
  • 18:08 The sarcasm. The interviewer did Kobe wrong.

    @angelopalmiery666@angelopalmiery6662 жыл бұрын
  • hooo m'y goodness gracious! the journalist!!!! WTF😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

    @pierreouimet8354@pierreouimet83545 жыл бұрын
  • For all the kids out there ...Now thats a role model!! When I was younger we use to look up to these kind a people, a real man who understands respect and dedication, not some bummy rapper pointing guns at the camera while wearing a squirt....wake up people

    @allamokrane2918@allamokrane29187 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer is so out of his league, this is what you call overcompensation. I will use this as an example in a lecture.

    @HG51_@HG51_7 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer's demeanor says it all, clearly he does not respect Kobe lol

    @dopemusic6414@dopemusic64147 жыл бұрын
  • This interviewer clearly doesn't understand who he is sitting next to.

    @AndrewZambetti@AndrewZambetti7 жыл бұрын
  • Kindergardeners ask better questions than this clown, seriously, whoever hired him, is getting fired right now

    @Supernova12034@Supernova120347 жыл бұрын
    • 🤣😂😂😂😂

      @princeamu@princeamu3 жыл бұрын
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