Pilot Breaks Plane on Landing | Viral Debrief
Every pilot has had their hard landings, but having a landing so hard that it causes the plane to bounce in the air and result in it cracking the plane is something else...
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:36 - These Buildings Are Close
6:17 - This Runway is Bumpy
12:14 - So Close
The first video takes place in Belo Horizonte/Brazil, in Carlos Prates airport, they were full pax, full fuel in a overload condition. The runway is very short, about 800m and they departured above the load limit of the aircraft. I'm not sure but I think the National Agency of Civil Aviation (ANAC) have launched an ivestigation on that. And I'm pretty sure they took that left turn right after lift-off because of a big building alligned with the runway axis called "espigão".
Too much horizonte and not enough verticale.
Did they land safely?
@@sierraromeomike Legend say that they are still flying that low...
@@sierraromeomike they did
@Mario Sergio Machado dos Santos valeuuu
I love how you include your mistakes of past experiences… instead of showing off you’re perfect… 🙌🏻🙌🏻
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My favorite channels are uploaded by humans!!! My least favorite channels are uploaded by narcissists. That's why i hang out with Kelsey. He's like a Coke - "the Real Thing". 👍🏼
agreed
Kelsey is the boss. Period.
@@jmax8692 k grammar nazi "lol"
I was a passenger on a 737departure out of Denver on a July afternoon. The temperature was 103 degrees. It's the longest takeoff roll I've ever experienced. I thought we were going to merge onto I-70.
Sorry I was late, some asshole in a 737 cut me off on the highway.
@@IDoABitOfTrollin your comment lives up to your username :)
So, if that happens, does the pilot have to use hand signals? Since the plane lacks blinkers?/joke.
@@andrewgause6971 If the plane got into an accident on the road the NTSB would have to recommend turning indicator lights. So all planes that merge onto the highway in the future will be safer.
I hate the 737. I had a takeoff from Vancouver and I was looking out the window going uhhh when is this thing going to lift up?? At what seemed like the very last second it abruptly pulled up at a sharp angle and I heard a loud slap noise, like the wing hit a puddle or something. Freaked me the heck out!
11:45 To the 74 Crew from an old guy: Kelsey speaks true things here. Even if you don't end up pushing yokes for a yiving, these words about humility and skills are a great life lesson.
hey it's not just pushing yokes, sometimes you also have to pull them
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“It's an universal law-- intolerance is the first sign of an inadequate education. An ill-educated person behaves with arrogant impatience, whereas truly profound education breeds humility.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
I'm guessing a good start toward a promising piloting career would be getting a motorcycle license and training as early as possible... If you ever want your precious ego bruised, dinged, battered, or broken... just show your *ss on a motorcycle. Physics and Darwin will happily take care of the rest... ...at least, such was my learning experience... (thankfully) mostly by observation... ;o)
@@pigeon7446 Sometimes you have to turn them
Regarding the first clip - I was a passenger in a 737 departing Jackson Hole, WY years ago. The pilot made an announcement before takeoff that we would be making an immediate left turn after takeoff (to avoid Snow King mountain) and it might appear to be somewhat disconcerting since we are so low to the ground. And indeed, it seemed like we banked left almoste immediately after the wheels left the runway. Since he told us, it was kind of exhilarating, but had he not said anything, it would have been terrifying.
He sounds like a very good pilot that cares for his passangers
That airport is a pretty challenging one in the class of high altitude runways.
He was a Captain being a good Captain
@@caimanaraujo479 that's not his point. Read his comment again.
I was just talking last night with friends about flying into JAC that is funny. Ya I try to communicate whenever anything is going to be abnormal
"It's never ever good to bend your aircraft" How did he say that with a straight face? Kelsey is the best!
Better bent than pranged.
1 second of bad judgement=> 3 million dollars in lost revenue and repair bills
It’s funny but even though I’m a nervous flyer, watching videos of rough landings like this is actually kind of reassuring bc you see that the planes can actually handle quite a bit
its AMAZING how hard and incorrectly you can land a plane and have it all still be okay... you really have to mess it up to make it a problem
@@74gear might as well just auto land the thing lol
Knowing just how much pilots train for worst case scenarios and even minor problems during every step of the process is why I prefer flying to driving cross country, if I'm honest.
I use to be SUPER nervous. I literally watch Air Disasters and all the ATC I can find --- for some reason it's made me calmer on flights. Last time I flew I wouldn't say I was looking FORWARD to flying, but I wasnt white knuckled during take off and ... I wasn't bad during landing. I don't care what my husband may have noticed. Noone else did. 😂
I used to be back when I first started flying decades ago. I was on a flight from Atlanta ga to albq nm..that got struck by lightening at night. It was spectacular!! We landed in El paso TX instead. We all survived 😄
Kelsey, you are so good on camera. You’re very articulate and well spoken. Many KZheadrs will have a million jump cuts when talking on camera. They can barely get two sentences out in a single take. You’re such a pro!
I think nervousness in front of an audience (camera) is a contributing factor. Seems like Kelsey has nerves of steel, which isn't a bad thing if your job is to safely move a ~ 1million-pound object through the sky
He already needs to be clear and efficient on the radio. I can’t image a camera would be much different.
Between Kelsey and Mentor Pilot. I have found a love of aviation.
That's me too. But oddly, I still have a fear of flying. But between Kelsey and mentor, I would be able to fly if I needed to.
same here
They've done some videos together if you search for them.
@@georgeharris6851 their interplay is awesome.
@A Florida Son Yeah, I also hoped that watching these videos would help with my fear of flying. But then I watched a video of a take-off, Dutch Pilot Girl had cameras in the cockpit, and while they were taxiing to the runway my panic was rising and I was thinking "No, no, no, no...I don't want to be here, let me out of here!" as if I was on the plane. So it didn't work, but at least I'm now interested in this topic. 🤷🏻♀️😆
The ANA hard landing was at Narita in 2012. It did cause substantial damage to the fuselage, but it was repaired and put back into service. It is still in use today. Tail # JA610A
I have flown on ANA a few times, now I will keep an eye out for that tail number
@@74gear Im certainly curious how this would be repaired. I wonder if this plane will now always have a slight yaw (?) due to the defect (which I would assume would be corrected by the autopilot or manually with either the rudder or an aileron). Likely not, but I’m reminded of a 737 accident that occurred under similar circumstances. OR, Mayday is a terrible source for information on plane crashes. Mentor Pilot’s deep dives have started to make that become evident.
The Planespotters information makes me feel the pain on that 767: "Incident 20 Jun 2012 at NRT when bounced on landing, causing severe damage (creases) in the fuselage returned to service 26 Dec 2012". There was also a 747-SP flying China Airlines flight 006 that after an incident (more severe than this Narita landing) ended up with permanently bent wings. It did get repaired (wings still bent tho) and in service for some years.
Watching that bounced landing again, it did hit a main gear first, then the nose gear.
@@jayzonmeztdagh No Yaw. It actually flies straighter than it did prior to the bounce. I flew it for 10 years pre-covid.
"I know, I've done it a bunch of times!" Real honest and frank pilot!
A flight attendant friend said that whenever they would get on the PA after the pilot had bounced the landing and they would say, "welcome to Seattle..... twice". The pilots would get pissed.
Awesome comment!
I have no idea why I’m addicted to this channel, but it seems like I can’t get enough! ✈️
The viral debrief series was my gateway drug :D
GET YOUR LICENSE!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed
Thanks Kelsey for posting this video as a perfect ending for Mother's Day. It's 9 PM in Saigon and I'm terrible at coming up with gift ideas, so I'm sharing this with my mom who lives in Finland. She loves flying and once mentioned she finds you very handsome. This, together with a bouquet of roses, is an unconventional but winning combination! 😄 ✈ 💡 Happy Mother's Day!
Hey he's mine lol! But something else: hoe do you find Saigon? Would it be worth a visit if I'd ever go to Vietnam?
@@Fluffy-Fluffy Definitely worth a visit! Been in Saigon since 2015 and am here to stay (the usual story: met a girl who became a wife). It's a fascinating mix of old and new with colonial architecture and delicious foods. If you travel to Vietnam, don't miss Saigon. Drop me a line and I'll give pointers on places to stay, visit and eat.
Why didn't Kelsey make a video about the Trevor Jacob thing
@@clutchnixon5880 Possibly to avoid drama. Kelsey seems like the type of fellow who doesn't want to get into a fight with another KZheadr. The incident is well covered already so he probably felt like it wasn't worth it.
@@lightwalker222 lame
I love the humility in the way you approach these videos; the true definition of an "expert" is someone with sufficient experience to understand their limits.
If I were a pilot, and I just had a terrible day in the simulator or just destryed a wing during a challenging cross-wind landing, I'd binge on 74 Gear a few days. Kelsey is simply the penultimate mentor, always understanding of pilots' challenges (or just being human) while still being ultra-focused on what's necessary to overcome. I love this channel because Kelsey feels like a smart friend, eventhough I never met him. This really is a feel-good channel, first in its category (sorry Mentour, which is a VERY good number 2).
Kelsey your face is hilarious when the squealing was going on! Have to say I would have been screaming into a pillow 😂😂😂.
I wouldn't take the time to look for a pillow...
The first clip was actually quite terrifying. They're just not climbing at all. Yikes.
Helene Trøstrup, PLUS GOT TO LOG A FEW EXTRA LANDINGS IN THEIR LOG BOOK🤣🤣🤣
Regarding the last aircraft, I was stationed in the Azores for two years and the wind there was unbelievably strong and unpredictable. When it rained, the wind blew it so hard that it bounced off of the ground and looked like the rain itself was coming out of the ground. It was an island paradise and worth the experience.
Been there many times and it is extremely windy at times.
I was taking off one day from Lajes, the wind shifted during the roll and we used all but thousand feet to get airborn. Four months after I left, the building i was billeted in blew down in a storm!!
I also thought about those winds on the Azores, also on Madeira. I remember one hell of an arrival in Madeira and I was on the last plane before the airport was closed and further flights diverted. You really have to love flying airplanes there.
I live in the Azores and agree. That landing looked like it was at Ponta Delgado and not Lajes. Winds are crazy strong here at times.
I just thought everyone should know that I have also experienced wind and rain.
I really love your videos Kelsey. I told all my friends about them and how you cured my fear of flying ! thank you so so much for the time you spend to make them and sharing your experience.
777 pilot buddy sends me snapshots of calculation methods. It BLOWS MY MIND how variable "the Envelope" is on a machine with a max takeoff of around 385 tons. Adding this comment as a "Thank You" for making your career available to armchair pilots like me who could only afford 63 hours in his logbook. ☺️👍🏼 You da' man, Kelsey!!
Good one. Your advice about staying humble and constantly continuing to improve your craft is good advice for every professional.
If only people driving cars had the same attitude as good pilots who keep in mind that the machine they are operating can kill you and others if you ever get too complacent.
I really like your advice about always staying humble and I've noticed this in many of your videos. It's refreshing to see someone openly admit when they have made similar mistakes before and explain how you can learn from them instead of tearing others down!
Thanks for respectfully commentating - professional courtesy in action together with sharing the learning involved.
About 'being humble' I find that even fighter pilots with heavy 'type A' personalities tend to have some level of humility. The hottest of the hotshots I've spoken with may be a *little* like "I'm the best pilot ever..." *However* that always comes with "...but I could still be better and am always learning."
The video really sounded Brazilian portuguese. And having them overload the plane is not unheard of.
It is Brazilian Portuguese indeed
I was on a 747 in the 80s that came in to land seemingly ok till it hit the runway. It sunk down a lot on its suspension, rose again strongly, then settled. Maybe left the ground momentarily. Anyway, interesting experience to be in a galloping Jumbo. My recollection is vague but I think the captain announced "well whaddaya know, we landed".
I drove a semi and tow truck. When wind is high the truck wants to blow off the road or bridge. Sometimes they have closed the bridge due to high winds.
The direction of the windsock shows they had a quartering tailwind, which certainly could have contributed to the rapid movement to the left.
You're supposed to brake the plane when you land, not break the plane
ic ...nice.... lol
so what you're saying is spelling saves airframes.
@@damnwereinatightspot VERY TRUE!! GOOD ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn those dyslexic pilots getting it wrong..
I do no where is the airport for the first video, but it's in some regional Brazil airport. The language is Brazilian Portuguese (because of accent I assume it's from the South of Brazil) and during the take-off and you can hear one guy saying "Leave it to me! leave it to me! lower it! stop pulling the plane! Leave it to me!" or in Portuguese "deixa comigo! Deixa comigo! Baixa ele! Para de puxar o avião! Deixa comigo! ". After that you hear the child's scream, more discussions (but I can't understand what were saying). I'm Brazilian.
Many years ago I was flying in to Midway Airport in Chicago on a Southwest Airlines flight, and the plane took a bit of a rough landing. The FO got on the intercom and said "Sorry about that rough landing folks. It wasn't the captain's fault, it wasn't the flight attendants' fault. It was the asphalt." I don't think the pilots had a landing quite like the last two clips, but it was probably pretty windy that day.
While I was a crew chief in the USAF, we had a 135 pilot shoot touch and go’s for four hours. After landing, we found the aircraft was missing the left keel beam bay door. It is a panel just forward of the main gear doors, about four feet wide and ten feet long. The right panel was bent. Management didn’t care why the right panel was bent, and concentrated on the missing panel. The blamed the crew chief for improper installation. A few months later, a local farmer found the panel in his field, while combining corn. All the fasteners were still latched. The pilot finally admitted to a very hard landing, and we finally did a hard landing checklist that was required. Exactly how hard did he hit to bend/buckle one panel and dislodge the other?
My first orientation flight was 4 hours long of touch and goes with new pilots at the controls, after the flight I can remember being at the back of the plane throwing up.
@@jackg7225 Statements like that make me glad I wasn't able to join the Air Force and become a pilot. Physically wasn't in the cards with my less than stellar vision and complete lack of arches but throwing up is something I really really REALLY hate.
Kelsey, the best part of your videos are your facial expressions when the pilot is in over his head. It's almost like you are watching the video for the first time just like us. It makes your videos much more enjoyable. It's good to know that even professional airliner pilots have a real test of pucker power.
If ANA did fire the pilot, ryanair is willing to accept him with open arms
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Bending an aircraft is a contractors dream come true on the maintenance, loads of work for a airframe fitter/mechanic, I used to love repairing stuff like that, the only problem is i tend to remember the reg numbers of the worse ones and you end up going on holiday on one a few months later (not that my work was terrible haha)
How do you straighten a bent airframe? Is it as safe as before?
@@hwd71 remove the skin and check the spars in the airframe and the floor and remove the damaged ones and the aircraft will separate depending on where the damage is i suspect here will be the weakest point around the nose gear and then repair depending on the cost if it's worth it like the age of the aircraft and the hrs flown, gets tricky roung the wing box more things to factor.
@@Nrgodzilla Thank you for taking the time to reply.
@@hwd71 Your welcome.
can't get enough of your debrief videos! love all the knowledge you give us!
I only fly in Flight Simulator but I hugely appreciate your videos, always trying to learn from them. Thank you!
The weight issue reminds me of something I saw as a kid. In my hometown there is a rugby team, they were growing more and more and on day they decided they could afford a plane to go play a match instead of the usual train. They took the smallest plane which could contain the whole team (30-40 people) and (surely due to the weight of some of the players) the plane had a real problem when taking off. Some of the players were so scared they decided to pay the train with their own money instead of taking the plane for the way back...
Crying with laughter, that 100% in agreement gag is my favourite moment on this channel so far!
You are so knowledgeable yet humble. I really appreciate that.
Haha speaking of screwing up despite having experience, I'm a locomotive engineer for a large railroad, and one well known rookie maneuver is to leave the brakes applied on the engines accidentally when we start to accelerate from a stop. I've always loudly declared (to myself) that I'll never do that. Lol....well, last week I did exactly that. I didn't notice until about 50mph when I started smelling brakes burning. I looked at my locomotive air brake pressure and sure enough i had about 25% brake pressure applied. Oops. For your own entertainment, we're not allowed to use the independent brakes (engine air brake) above 10mph. Lol
Yes, humility is important whatever your experience level. Whether you fly planes, ride motorcycles, use machine tools or work on electronics or whatever else, there's always something that can bite you if you're not paying attention.
One time I was trying to see if I could get my old 1988 4runner up to 100mph on this long straight empty road. After probably 5 minutes it did 100 but I had forgotten it was still in 4wd so both hubs, both front wheel bearings, and front the driveshaft were completely toast. I left a trail of metal pieces behind me in the road the whole way home. I''ll for sure never do that again lol
I feel like with each new video, the phrase, "Comin' up" always comes later and later. I'm always curious how long I'll wait. The suspense is out of the roof! I love these videos!
Hi Kelsey. Been enjoying the ‘Viral Debrief’ series tremendously. Specially all the pointers on overcoming those tricky situations. On a separate note, was wondering if you have managed to identify yourself on any of the many plane spotting videos on KZhead? Perhaps during your Dreamlifter days.. being such an unique aircraft and the many videos of it online, I’m sure there must be a few if not at least one video of you behind the controls of that awesome aircraft.. 🙂 would be awesome if you could point out a few.. All the best buddy!
Regarding the bounced landing at Narita, the winds were gusting out of the SW that day. Anytime the winds are out of the SW in NRT, it makes for an extremely challenging approach and landing. Moderate turbulence on the approach, with wind shear gusts of +/- 25kts on final is common. With gust factors being added to your approach speed, you’re coming in hot and just below the flap limit speeds. It’s not fun at all. For those that made harsh comments about this, unless you have personally flown a wide body into NRT on a gusty day, chill. Yeah, they should have made a GA, but no one was injured.
Was it a hull loss ?
@@grandsoleil56 No, it was repaired and sent back to the line.
@@mikeyflysit shell be right bend it back out, lick of new paint, golden
It actually flew straighter after it was repaired than it did prior. I know as I flew it for 10 years pre-Covid.
@@jrmyl Was hoping I wouldn’t be the only one of us to chime in on this.
First video: Oh, I didn't know Aerosucre flies passenger flights too.
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When I started years ago with Air Wisconsin, we tended to avoid full power takeoffs in the CRJ200s unless necessary, and after landing, we would have to notify ops at the station of whether it had been a full or flex takeoff. If it had been full, we made a note in our logs regarding why, just as a CYA in case Dispatch reached out to question our reasons for using full power.
I’m not a pilot so I can’t judge, so I have so much respect for the pilots, for the hours of training, for the unnatural situation flying is. God didn’t creat us with wings so we weren’t naturally meant to fly. For a pilot to push that much weight into the air and land it safely is a marvel to me!
love your content sir, not a pilot but I'm a nervous flier & you've helped put me at ease a bit
Man, this is great stuff for those of us who are just getting started in aviation. I'm learning from your years of experience. I'll not be flying commercial. But it's still useful. Have you ever thought about doing videos based on small aircraft? I'd sure watch them.
Loved Kelsey's explanation to what sounded like a baby screaming! 😄😄 And probably smart to not say "I'd never do that". Whenever I've used such words about anyone of my dogs, within days they tend to prove me wrong. "No, only Jonna sleeps in that chair" - the same evening Blomma sleeps there, for the first time in like 8 years or something. "Beata is so obedient, she never runs away", a few days later on a walk, who runs after another dog not noticing how far from me they were going - Beata.
Yes! I have found the same with dogs AND horses even more so 😄
@FinnishLapphund Ha! Yeah, they are like toddlers - the second you feel a sense of pride about how well behaved they are, they are going to act up. I swear my dog can understand when I tell someone how well behaved she is, and choose that moment to go chase a squirrel.
Yup my first thought was there was a baby on the plane since it sounded like a baby crying/screaming not a adult.
Life is unpredictable. There are no guarantees.
@@rosiejl2798 that baby or toddler was smart..knew something was uncomfortable.
I find your information very interesting and informative , it gives me a greater respect for what you do.
I love your videos. I am an aviation enthusiast, got my private pilot’s license when I was 21. I enjoyed the small aircraft, but now I prefer to get on larger, faster, more comfortable airplane when traveling.😊
I'm a commercial passenger who got a first flight lesson as Christmas present. It was wonderful to have that experience. But I'm never going to be a pilot. I'm never going to pursue it. I'm too old and fat. That said, I really enjoy learning all of the stuff you're talking about. So while I understand that a lot of what you're doing is geared towards encouraging and enlightening people who do or will pilot as passenger. I'm just enjoying the heck out of it. Keep on 74 gear
Great videos. (50 year pilot here w 35 years at airline up to B777 cap and I still get a lot from your vids. well done). A couple of thoughts. In the first video, based on the camera angle and tracking away from the runway, it doesn't look to me like bank angle was involved. It looks to me like a strong right crosswind pushed them left, combined with a pilot that was very weak with their rudder skills and they failed to compensate for the crosswind during and a bit after rotation. And sorry to nitpick, but regarding why we put the nose down without delay on landing: steering is secondary (as long as there's airspeed the rudder is adequate for steering). The primary reason is that reducing the angle of attack on the wing puts full weight on the main gear which then allows for maximum braking. Way back, there were some pilots that would touchdown and immediately select flaps up for that same reason. Reconfiguring during a critical phase of flight was later recognized as being ill-advised. lol Cheers
Every profession has good and bad people. The key is having someone that loves their profession because they pay more attention in classes and take lessons to heart. Of course there’s always a learning curve but the determined will always prevail if they keep trying because they love it. The real problem is people getting trained to fast. Personally I’m a security and mechanical guy but you never stop learning especially from more experienced people. Who knows maybe someday I can fly. It’s on my bucket list, until then I learn everything I can about everything I can. Great video 👍👍👍
Been a pilot since 2015 and first time Im hearing the term "Max Blast" adding it to my turn and burn and etc! Thanks!
Hello Kelsey, I really like your videos, I'm from Bogotá, Colombia 🇨🇴and I'm currently finishing my a320 type rating, and so far most of the training is on bogota, and yes you can feel the degraded performance and most of it during afternoon operations due to high altitude, warm day and the density altitude is really high, but as you were mentioning even with those conditions if you follow what Airbus says on the performance charts you are good to go even with an engine failure and using less take off power performance than 100% thank you for your videos, Greetings from Colombia, will be great to one day meet you and have a nice chat🇨🇴
Yeeeeees!!! Sunday jitters are over. Thank you for keeping your community happy
These landings are terrifying. As a passenger flying into SeaTac, our plane hit so hard (the first time) we bounce about 20' and got oriented nose-down. To prevent the nose from crashing into the runway, the pilot had to go full-throttle to level the plane. This reorientation slammed the rear wheels onto the runway causing the second bounce which was "only" about 5-10'. Once all wheels were on the ground, he had to full-throttle reverse and hit the brakes to avoid running off the end of the runway - everything loose in cabin was launched forward. Once we finally stopped, the entire cabin applauded. I wish I could remember the exact words the pilot used, but it sounded like he was ordering a happy meal - cool & calm, but with the smallest hint of "happy to be alive".
On to what kelsey was saying about having a ton of experience and making mistakes. I dont fly full scale but been flying giant scale rc for 25 years. The maiden flight of my daughter 1/4 scale cub, was a direct crosswind, i set up on a crosscontrolled approach keeping left wing down, perfectly straight into the runway and everything is looking beautiful. I added left rudder instead of right just before mains touched 🤦♂️. My daughter is learning full scale, i was like this is what u DONT do 😂. Great videos, i watch Kelsey videos all the time
The first clip seems to be from Brasil . Right after departure, one man yelled "stop pulling the button". But of course, I've no idea what sort of button he's talking about ( I am Brazilian)
I'm Portuguese and I agree with you. Para de puxar o botão!! Scary!!
No. Puxar = Pull. He said "stop pulling the button" (but yes, he meant stop pushing)
@@fzigunov well spotted! I've been living in an English speaking country for years and I always make the same mistake! 😅
@@fzigunov I've edited my comment and corrected that. Thank you :)
@@isabellas.9713 Hahaha the famous push vs pull that all Brazilians have to suffer through!
Regarding the first clip - I have a 3rd possible explanation - from personal experience as PIC. Got airborne after a slightly longer than normal ground run (hot day with almost max MTOW) - verified positive climb on vario, then continued scanning outside. Shortly after, I noticed something was wrong - wasn't climbing fast enough - looked at vario, -¼ m/s. Started scanning instruments like crazy - full throttle, good speed, correct RPM, engine all green. While I was scanning, crosswind pushed me away from runway - so lost the option to abort takeoff and land without turning - and I didn't want to do any turning without knowing what was wrong (stall/spin anyone?). Almost called mayday and put it on the grass - then I found out, that I had full air brakes out. Air brakes in = lovely climb performance. Result was a bit more experience and some paperwork.
I took off in a Mooney 201 **at** max weight; positive rate of climb? gear up. Altitude about 40 feet, at Vy. Only it wasn't the gear I brought up. Now I am losing lift and the end of the runway is approaching. I put the nose +down+ to get airspeed, checking for obstacles, THIS TIME raised the gear, and climbed out normally. Scared me - not because of hazards but because my options were reduced significantly. Forthwith every switch flipped or control movement was a two step process to make sure the right hardware was utilized and correct action taken. 35+ years ago. Lesson learned.
Someone commented saying the plane was overloaded with PAX and fuel. 800m runway. It’s being investigated apparently
DUDE!!! You are so sharp, smart and right on spot.. So 2 things, one, If i was ever able to fly again (I'm a disabled Vietnam veteran partially bed ridden) I WOULD WANT YOU AS PILOT!!! Two, if i was ever able to take flight lessons, I, again, would want you. I would pay big bucks!!! You are totally awesome and you totally ROCK!!!
Chris.......thank you for your service. ....you are a true hero for serving.....
Don't think they'd let you fly unfortunately, I just looked into it as a hip amputee lol, any medical issue can prevent you from flying. If you're color blind forget it. Flying as in piloting.
Hey, 74 Gear! I just want to say, Happy World's Pilots Day! Thank you for keeping the skies the best and as fun as possible. Even if you aren't commercial anymore. Without you and the other pilots, we wouldn't have joyful rides and supplies from your guys' hard work. Thank you so much!
First clip.... SBPR airport, BRAZIL. 900 m long , aprox. 2700ft elev., rising terrain... What you hear is "I HAVE IT, I HAVE IT !!! STOP PULLING UP ! LET IT GO , I HAVE IT !!!! " Some say the acft owner was on the RH seat.
Great video Kelsey! I have the first progress check for my PPL coming up soon and I am pretty nervous. Thank you for keeping the motivation up!
You can practice as much as you want. Don't be nervous. I failed a check ride to solo once. Just studied and went up again and passed. No biggie! It's also good to find anything you might have missed.
道天国道場Budo Tengoku Dojo, PIECE OF CAKE!!! DID MINE 41 YEARS AGO!! MOST EXAMINATORS KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIAPER FOR NERVES!!!!! MEANS YOU ARE NORMAL, YOU WILL BE FINE! KEEP US POSTED!!!!!!!! GOOD LUCK!
Good Luck!
@Fluffy A LITTLE HUMOR GOES A LONG WAY, THANKS, OUR WORLD IMO WOULD RUN ALOT BETTER!!!!!!!👍👍👍
Funny, I would have assumed the low density air was the OPPOSITE of how you explained it. A humid climate being MORE dense than a dry one. Love your videos!
Hi Kelsey, thanks for another interesting debrief. I do have to chuckle a bit at the face you made while watching the second video for the first time. That was classic 😄. 🌴☀️🌴
All the flights I've taken with ANA have been very hard landings, not this hard but hard enough that you notice it and everyone takes a glance at each other in relief
Kelsey’s facial expressions are fun to watch when the plane bounces.
I enjoy your channel content Kelsey! Watching from western Canada
Another great video, I always get excited when a new one comes out,,Thanks Kelsey!!
There is a final report available on the ANA incident. It happened on 2012-06-20 on Tokyo-Narita Airport. Taken from Aviation Safety Network: "Probable Causes: It is highly probable that this accident occurred by the damage to the aircraft is a result of the hard landing of the nose landing gear after its bounce when attempting to land at Runway 16R of Narita International Airport. It is probable that the hard landing of the nose landing gear was caused because the Captain could not notice the bounce of the aircraft and controlled it to take a nose down position in order to make early touch-down of the nose landing gear. It is probable that the continued landing with the aircraft being in an unstable posture caused by a crosswind with gust which occurs when there is a strong southwest wind around the airport contributed to the occurrence of the accident." The report includes interesting pictures of the damage (which was actually repaired).
Thank you for tracking this down and sharing it with us! I was wondering whether the plane was totaled or repairable - now I know.
Oh great. So the nose can accommodate the crosswind now?
As a flight engineer once said to the captain after a firm landing, “I’ve seen better landings than that where everyone was killed.”
Tokyo Narita has given many pilots their worst landing since flight school....... myself included😂 luckily in my case I didn't bend anything. But we dropped like a rock from about 10ft right on the numbers😊. I looked at the shock shafts on my walk around before the next leg and I doubt there was any travel left because the seal wiped the whole shaft clean😂
Yikes!
Learned something new from the first video. I'd always assumed that hotter weather improves performance due to thermals, although now I think about it air density probably does have a much greater effect.
love the videos, keep up the good work , and fly safe
Regarding the first clip, they're clearly in Brazil speaking Portuguese. The pilot is saying "Let me take care of it!" repeatedly, then he screams "stop pulling the button!!". Then the kid started screaming. I am not sure what happened mechanically with the aircraft, but it looks like somebody else is trying to override the pilot's inputs ( the kid?)
Kelsey, I love so your humility , which just reaffirms your wisdom and knowledgeability on all human things airborn. Even when you state you are not in the 1% or 2% that are naturally talented pilots, my feeling is that the 'Bag of Experience' you were given when you started has been so exceptionally filled that all the hard work is a talent in itself, and that lessens the risk of 'doing things a pilot shouldn't be doing' because of some natural dexterity or whatever else. I do love all things regarding the mechanics of flight and in equal form I really don't like being on a cabin myself. So I'll just say: If one must fly, let it be always with you on the cockpit.
I worked at American Airlines Alliance Maintenance Base in the early 2000’s and we twice had a 767 ferry in for bent fuselage repair. Replacing belly sheet metal took several weeks and cost a ton of money. Both times it was from a nose wheel first landing.
Love your honesty. And your vídeos.
I witnessed a 747 that was being piloted by a person unfamiliar with this aircraft. Take off was fine, however after multiple takeoffs and landings then taxiing to its secured are, there was large chunks of rubber missing from each and every tire in the aircraft. As the pilot was exiting the aircraft, a representative from the company was saying, "Colonel, the aircraft will land itself. You don't have to fly it into the runway." There was even chunks out of the nose gear tires. You'll see these particular aircrafts in the press a lot during presidential campaign times.
About 5 years ago the 737 I was aboard had a pretty hard landing at PDX one night. Abrupt enough that I could feel the landing gear bottom out and the interior fixtures creaked and groaned a bit. I was seated clear in the back of the aircraft so was probably 2nd or 3rd from last passenger off the plane and the captain had positioned himself and the second officer right where you exit and was saying loud enough for all to hear "yep it takes a long time to learn how to fly one of these things" at which point the copilot responded "yes sir, it sure does." I had the distinct feeling that this interchange had been initiated as the first passengers were deplaning and had been repeated again and again as the plane gradually emptied.
I have flown many times. I experienced a go around once, into YYC (Calgary). I think it was a strong crosswind. We landed safely.
Hi kelsey ! nice to see you again , looking forward to this video !
Once took off on a 757 from El Alto, Bolivia. 13,325′ up. Felt like the plane was never going to take off, and once we did, it seemed to take some time before we cleared a few hundred feet. A little unsettling, even though I knew ahead of time we were at high altitude and this could happen.
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!!!! Just off of a plane on Friday, and upon disembarking, I said, “Great flight!! Aviate, Navigate, communicate!” The crew laughed😂
Another fantastic video, thank you mate 👌
It was nothing like these landings but I was a passenger on a commercial jet landing in Atlanta GA. It was summertime and there were typical afternoon storms that happen in the southeast. Our plane “bounced”. We felt the runway rumble on touchdown then everything went smooth then rumbled again as we landed a second time. I joked with the passenger sitting next to me that I was glad he got the plane down, it hate to have to do that again. Haha. Like I said it felt worse than it actually was since no one was expecting it. No injury’s at all. No complaints to the crew. Everyone just laughed it off as a funny story. Loving this channel. Keep up the good work.
Noice! Viral debrief is always a favorite.
Sort of related to the vanishing gust thing. I was surfing once when all of a sudden the sea just vanished beneath me and I was dumped onto wet sand. For about half a second I could ponder 'where has all the water gone?' before several hundred tons of sea suddenly came back down on top of me. "Oh, there it is."
It's actually kind of comforting to see how much you can beat up a plane & still have everyone walk away fine
Great video! Note: some of those GA planes that keeep the nose up on landing may be practicing a soft field landing ort just trying to reduce brake pad wear.
I took a volunteer flight in a c47 skytrain, we took off, oil slinging hard from both engines (normal and actually in the manual as sling/burn rate) after liftoff we couldn't rotate for another minute or 2 after the end of the runway. Way under limit, but the engines were low on power no doubt. Once everything warmed up the rest of the flight was rather peaceful. Super super super cool nonetheless.
C-47s use big radial engines. They don't leak oil, they mark their territory. (The only time they stop leaking oil is when they're out of it.)
Had something very similar to the “Magical” (🤣) landing, on Virgin Atlantic a few years ago. Very nearly a wing strike, both sides, and it took a while to stabilise the wing-rock and yaw. Once we’d departed the runway, the FO came on the com with a relaxed English drawl: “Well, ladies and gentlemen…as you may have noticed, we’ve just arrived at Las Vegas McCarran airport…”
😂😂😂
Hahaha
About the nose landings in small planes, it really depends on the suspension. I know the suspension in my training DA 40 will not take a nose first landing or the gear will snap. It's something I'm always paying attention to when I land.
“Even with my 747” is the best flex of any KZheadr ever
When you're two miles from the runway and still dodging roof tops...
I'm waiting for one of Kelsey's bad landings to be put in this series.
Great videos Kelsey.keep it goin,Bill
The analogy is: there are pilots who HAVE bounced a landing, those who WILL bounce a landing, and . . . LIARS. Just like a sailboat and running aground. Thanks for sharing.