Will Disney's Sequels Return BOX OFFICE MAGIC? - DSNY Newscast
Disney is going into sequel overdrive for the next years, with Inside Out 2, Moana 2, Zootopia 2, Toy Story 5, Frozen 3 & 4. But will this big bet on animated sequels return Disney's Box Office magic or will it flop? Let's crunch the numbers and make predictions.
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0:00 - Disney's Animated Box Office Results
3:15 - Inside Out 2 (2024)
5:56 - Moana 2 (2024)
9:24 - Pixar's ELIO - Not a sequel (2025)
11:02 - Zootopia 2 (2025)
14:03 - Toy Story 5 & Frozen 3 (2026)
15:02 - Waltineer Question & Outro
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Walt Disney: “You can’t beat a pig with a pig.” Modern Disney: “What we really need are more sequels!”
This. 👆🏼
These announcements are what desperation looks like. Disney sees how much of disaster their new IP has been recently they are in full scramble mode.
Sequels exist in every film genre…..stop trying to create a false narrative. As Jack mentions, the reality is that animated films have not performed as well after Covid with a few exceptions. And who can blame them for giving the people what they want through sequels?
I hope so
Creatively bankrupt. I totally agree.
your being blinded by your Disney fandom. Turning Red, Strange World, Lightyear, Elemental, Luca are some of the company's lowest rated movies in history (not only Box Office which jack is talking about). before the past 5 years they had been producing nothing by hits, Frozen, Moana, Zootopia, Princess and the Frog, and Tangled...this is not a "false narrative" it's a fact that the quality of the movies and reviews have dropped which is why there going back to Sequels..which noticed the dropped them all at once to try to improve investors fears@@toddrye2209
@@toddrye2209 also it's depressing that we will not going to have a new original story
I'm personally not opposed to sequels. If there are more stories to be told, and more potential to be tapped into, then I say go for it. And some of these movies I'm very much looking forward to. That being said, Disney should still invest in original IP and stories, It's what got them started and they should still be willing to take risks with them in the hopes that they may fight their footing in the long run.
"You can't top pigs with pigs"
So true
Okay, but these fairy tales already existed. Disney just put his own spin on them. They were not original stories.
something to tell the maga crowd...
Toy Story 5 has to be 2025 - 30 year anniversary!
I think there's another aspect here. If you've already paid for a Disney plus subscription and know that they'll be on there within a few months, why pay out for potentially expensive cinema/movie theatre visit once tickets, snacks and anything else is taken into account. Given the increasing price of Disney plus, cutting out trips to the cinema is one way to fund it.
I think Disney needs to wait a year before releasing movies on Disney plus. Put it in theaters, then at 6 months sell Blu rays, and then after a year release it on Disney plus. This would probably improve box office returns.
Absolutely. That will be built into their financial model. I don't even go to the cinema anymore if a Disney movie will be on D+ a few months later. The pandemic is also a reason, and also some boycotting due to political pushing.
They’re not selling DVD’s at some stores anymore
Disney taught it's fans that they only have to wait a few months to see the movies on the Disney+ service they're paying each month for instead of the expense and hassle of going to the movies. In the past Disney sequels were typically direct to video releases. Streaming is the modern equivalent of DTV. It's hard to say how many of these will actually get theatrical releases.
And let’s not forget that people have been trained that if it’s not a high priority to see it on the big screen, they would wait for one of the animated offerings to get there
History proves that Disney... doesn't know how to manage sequels. Toy Story was an exception... But as a fan... all this announcements are "we don't have new good ideas". They are both in a creative and ideological bankrupcy.
Frozen 2 was more successful than Frozen 1, even after adjusting for inflation.
@@haventesla8648 Bigger market spread(China) and higher ticket prices in '19 vs '13 even against inflation.
@@haventesla8648it was a success only because fans wanted it to be. The first movie was still better, while Frozen 2, was kinda meh.
@@haventesla8648 Money is not everything...it Made more because was the sequel of Frozen... However it had a more quickly down on the box Office...when The first one just go up. But film has A LOT of plotholes what Made the worldbuilding a freaking NIGHTMARE. Plus..any ppl even DON'T REMEMBER the film exist. Thats how impactless the movie was. Thats not success at all.
@@andresanguianozuniga6798 That's your subjective opinion. We have to make arguments based on facts such as box office earnings.
Definitely need some fresh IP
Agreed I’m not the least interested in any of these.
All these sequels to popular IPs and they're completely ignoring the one film with the most proteinal and need for a sequel. Big Heros 6.
You just like his aunt bro admit it
I’m not sure what story they could go with that could stand up to the first one. They had a second attempt at that universe with the Baymax show (not sure how canon the 2d animated one is), and while it was fun, I don’t think I’d want a sequel. But maybe I’m not a big enough fan.
@@HighTide_808Aunt Cass is pretty hot though. Plus no one ever points out how SHE’S the true hero. She was stuck raising two boys all on her own. She didn’t even have time to mourn the loss of her sister because of the instant responsibly she had with the two boys. She had to show strength rather than sadness, so that the boys could be strong too.
You’re Delusional
With T.J. Miller out of the picture due to the allegations, who would voice Fred for Big Hero 6 sequel?
Toy Story 5 could show Sid Phillips unveiling the toys' living secret to the world after he learned a lesson as well as puppets and a toy factory, Frozen III could show Elsa returning to Arendelle on her own and learning to dance as Kristoff and Anna marry each other and Spring being celebrated throughout the fictional Norwegian kingdom and the entire fjord, Inside Out 2 could show the emotions entering the real world as well as Riley and Jordan becoming a couple since it's about to show new emotions and Riley's new home finally showing all the furniture due to its delayal in the first film, Zootopia 2 may show Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde on a new perspective and having kids and Moana 2 may afford new exotic paradises and outfits related to Hawaii for the ancient Polynesians. Time for Anna and Elsa to be included on the Disney Princess line with a modern render unless the Disney Queen line is made; they can be transferred there with Ariel so Melody can take her place and Amaya can acquire the line first.
The reason why they are doing so many sequels is….they don’t know what else to do! A HUGE portion of their best creators either quit or were fired. They no longer have confidence to produce anything NEW! Even in Imagineering this is a huge problem. When Joe Rohde left…I was heart broken…and I KNEW on that very day that it was a sign of something SEVERELY wrong in Burbank! It’s time for sweeping CHANGE in Burbank.
Muppets: 🎶 they’re doing more sequels. There’s no need for disguises🎶 Miss Piggy: 🎶the studio’s got more ideas for popular franchises🎶 Muppets:🎶they’re doing more sequels. Let’s see how they’ll do🎶 Rowlf: 🎶they can’t do any worse then 2011’s Cars 2🎶 Muppets: 🎶they’re doing more sequels. The studio’s alive🎶 Gonzo: 🎶while they wait for Tom Hanks to make Toy Story 5🎶 Muppets: 🎶we thought those were the end my friends but no this is when they get to do it all again🎶
I love how the Muppets made a joke about TS4 being unnecessary before it was even a thing
@@BroZilla-vh3tu yeah they did. Gonzo even predicted the future too
Your graphic work is unbeatable 🙌
Took me a while to compile all the box office numbers and adjust for inflation. I think I did like 30 movies total 😂 It’s always appreciate when someone notices it
@DSNYNewscast how are you doing I'm worried about disney movies box office
But the problem isn't that we want to see more of stuff we've already seen, it's just that they aren't creating any new stories and characters we can fall in love with. They can't just keep churning out sequels to the same franchises. They need to fix the issue they seem to be having in the creativity department
I loved your Mickey Mouse hoodie, Jack. It has all the different "aged" appearance versions of Mickey Mouse himself on the sleeves and the character's name on the chest area. I will soon make a flag for Mickey Mouse, showing both him and his name on it, in front of his head-like logo.
I think the biggest wild card is the effects of streaming. Are people going to wait until it’s on Disney+? The overall movie market is shifting and it’s hard to know well it will land. I think some of those movies will do well, regardless of how good they are.
Agree, Streaming is having a huge effect & I think Disney might be affected more than most. With some movies, you aren’t sure where it will be streaming in a few months, but with Disney+ subscribers, you know. That being said, I’ll go see anything of theirs that comes out during my Drive-in season but it has to be MUST see to get me to drive 40 mins away to go to the theater
agree also...regardless of whether moves are good or bad since streaming became the new "push"....wh lyrics pay all that money to take an entire family to the theater when the movie will be coming to disney + in a a few months
100% people will wait.
If they didnt' want me to wait until its on Disney+, they would NOT Have released a terrible sequel to Frozen in theaters.
A decillion dollars will be a vote and a vow for these sequels to create most often, especially if they get added to spawned bundles, to upgrade the ones already made.
It’s also said that Zootopia 2 comes out on the same day as part 2 of the Wicked movie. Elio comes around the same time as the How to Train Your Dragon remake
Oh it's a two-parter?
@@janmartenlocher correct ✅
Universal knows full well that Disney likes Thsnksgiving, and also Pixar taking whatever Friday is before Juneteenth is no secret either.
Original animations will soon be seen as an investment with an expected loss, with the hope that it gathers momentum as a franchise once it hits streaming platforms. This then allows sequels for the same franchise to become box office successes as people are invested in the characters. So I think the mindset of Disney/Universal will change and there will almost be an acceptance that originals will make a loss with the hope they see a more significant return in future sequels.
This is true but Disney had some plans to make Wish 2 BEFORE the first one got the reception it did. And like, that movie is flooded with characters. The model you presented should work in theory but still they need to not give the main seven friends again. Certainly not before the film even starts, if she meets htem as it goes along, maybe.
That’s the key! If it’s a good movie, it will do well. Disney needs to screw their head back on straight. Just watched the new Indy and it’s like ‘who thought Indy going back in time would be a good idea?’
Remember when Eisner was given ALL that grief over "diluting the brand" with the endless "cash grab" direct to video sequels? Yeah...not a good look. It's a bandaid for an internal issue that's been simmering ever since John Lassiter was given the boot. Quantity over quality is a dangerous game, Disney, don't play it again. (Seriously, Toy Story 3 & 4 were a satisfying conclusion to the franchise--and 4 was only "needed" because of the whole "What happened to Bo Peep?" mystery. At this point, it's like how every single Kirk-era Star Trek movie was marketed as "THE FINAL VOYAGE!!!" 😂)
The spork was the stupidest thing in animation.
I will then make banners for the International Pixar characters: Linguini and Colette (French) Luca, Alberto and Guilia Macabando (Italian) Merida (Scottish) Miguel Rivera (Mexican) Joe Gardner and Riley Anderson (American) Meilin Lee (Chinese Canadian) and the Intergalactic Royals: Buzz Lightyear, Elio and WALL-E
I think Moana 2 will make serious money, but I think it won’t have legs. No Lin Manuel, no Musker and Clements? What’s to separate this from the 90’s cheapquels?
Yes, this is a huge question mark…. How will the music be
Lin Manuel, Musker, and Clements aren't the only talented people in the world
Um, the Directo-to-video sequels, many of them, are better than Moana 2 can hope to be. There are some that should be worse, such as Bambi II, that one's a nightmare, and a couple others. But Moana 2 will definitely be basement level entertainment. Based n its source.
Anna and Elsa ought to be added with Ariel and Amaya to a brand-new line; Disney Queen, the Zootopia films resemble the Madagascar trilogy and the Mickey Mouse world and Moana's world is not far from Hawaii.
To me I have no problem with sequels, because I grew up with and loved watching them growing up. But to me the saddest part of it all is that Kid’s today don’t have that “magic” like we had. They don’t have many Disney princes and princess they imagine themselves as being besides Moana and Frozen characters. I just feel they are losing the essence of what Disney is, the nostalgia that we feel when entering the parks or re-watching shows and seeing those characters again. To me it just feels like a cash grab and an abuse of power. They are over producing movies instead of just slowing down, making one good solid movie, and reinvesting the money into the parks with the IP they create.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls we are now entered the sequel era for both Disney animation and Pixar. I bet the biggest one in 2026 the competition is heating up between Pixar Crown Jewel: Toy Story 5 and Disney animation glory: Frozen 3 will be a biggest conclusion yet. When they announce tickets now on sale in 24 hours, gone sold out straight.
See people its not just a Disney problem, its not just an animation problem, its a entertainment problem. With rising costs of going to a cinema, people are going to go with what they know. Of course the problem is you can't have a franchise without an original film first. I can't honestly predict anymore, the world has gone nuts. People are too wrapped up in their own narratives of being "woke" or "anti-woke" that they have made up their minds before they even watch anything.
I want to see movies like Gigantic or Me and my shadow; new stories with magic, action, 2D with 3D elements like Atlantis and Treasure planet, nice music. Sounds more fun thna Frozen 3 and Toy story 5. Seriously, what can you add to the stories? All the characters arc are complete, the villains are defeated; not sure Lotso will return since he ignored where Woody and his friends are. Hans is alone on a small island wiht no food, not sure he will survive! The spirits are calm, there's no war anymore. I really don't see how the adventure can continue 🤨
Frozen 3 has Elsa fighting the real Snow Queen and leaves off on a cliffhanger so those who dont' mind DEI elements forced in (dunno what those are) will be thirsty for the fourth film.
I was just there last week, and Moana was fully operational 2/3 times we went. The waves at the end was the only thing that “wasn’t playful” but I experienced it 2/3 times. I was cautiously optimistic about this attraction myself, but I ended up loving it because of how interactive it was giving vibes of old Epcot with jumping water and interactive play. I agree it shouldn’t be breaking as much as it was reported to being so new. However, it was working for me just fine and it was great.
I really enjoyed this video! Thanks for adjusting for inflation and taking the time to make this a more realistic comparison.
Fantastic analysis - thank you. You are so right - if Disney gets the stories right then these can all be hits. Also - great info about how sequels perform better.
The events of Lightyear took place after WALL-E.
I feel disappointed that we Will not going to have an original story
Wish and Strange World were original Stories and Bombed at the Box office…
We’ll have Elio next year
@@rumtreiberkrone9065 because they were mediocre
@@jamesgeorgi6627 I hope it dosen't bomb
Moana 2, frozen 3, frozen 4 and toy story 5 are cash grab(Bob iger cares only about money) except zootopia 2 if there's a new art style like puss in boots the last wish. If there's no new art style for zootopia 2(a cash grab), I won't watch it. Inside out 2 is the only sequel that I will watch. I'm done with modern disney. Creating an orignial story with 2.5d animation like puss in boot the last wish and the short movie paperman or a full 2d, something inspiring and no messaging(no bad representation) will save disney, not 3d sequels. I like other animated movies without walt disney animation studios in 2.5d likePuss in boots the last wish, spiderverse(both), and others, because they are original with a new art style(2.5d). They are not generic and boring like disney for the characters, stories, musics and for the animation style.
I hope sequel films do well in box office be okay
For me I feel like The Walt Disney Company tried doing original stories with both Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar Animation Studios but within the last few years they just haven't been performing well because fans just aren't familiar with it because it's not part of an existing IP within their studios. Even if people want original movies. Elemental didn't do too well in it's first week and it was original and only did better after good word of mouth, that and Walt Disney Pictures and Pixar didn't advertise it enough. That's the reason why it's risky to put out original animated films. Then you have fans complaining about too many sequels, when they made the most about of money at the box office because it's part of a franchise. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what went wrong with these original films. Strange World from Walt Disney Animation Studios was a dud due to it's lack of advertising and it's boring plot. No villain at all and no songs in sight. It was also a big step for the studio as it was the first feature to incorporate an openly gay character, something Walt Disney Animation Studios had never done before. I for one was just bored by it. Then Lightyear did poor numbers in 2022 due to audience confusion on replacing Tim Allen for the voice of Buzz with Chris Evans. A lot of people didn't understand the film was about the astronaut and not the toy. It also featured the first same-sex kiss from buzz's friend which was a first for Pixar, incorporating ideas from the LGBTQ+ community. I personally enjoyed the film, but it just didn't do well at all and it went to Disney+ not long after it's theatrical run. Overall, as long as there is more story too tell, then I think sequels will keep coming from both studios because they make the most money compared to original films not part of an existing franchise. And I think The Walt Disney Company needs a few hits after several unfortunate blows in 2023 with Walt Disney Pictures, Walt Disney Animation Studios, Pixar Animation Studios and Marvel Studios not performing too well for their films. I'm still waiting on Incredibles 3. It's been 6 years and no news on it. I hope it's not 2032 before we get that movie. Sequels might be what this company needs to bring in better box office performance.
I think Inside Out 2 will be a good test for whether sequels have the power to help Disney recover from their box office woes. But I don't think the argument is really about sequels vs.original stories--it's about good writing and high production values versus sloppy, lazy writing and poor production values. I'll be honest; Elio doesn't interest me much--not because it's a new IP, but because it looks so bland. Nimona, on the other hand, looked interesting long before I actually watched. 😊
I'm not sure it will though. Pixar is smewhat careful when it comes to DEI. Disney animation wears it on their sleeves. I think Inside OUt 2 will only be an indicator of how PIXAR sequels should do. And maybe Zootopia 2 because that's in a similar vein.
@@kipolem53 Good point!
@@kentslocum now I see the true problem of original ideas it doesn't mean that they don't work anymore it's just they need to put much effort something that can outstand viewer to see it on the big screen it felt weaker and bland not because they don't work anymore
I really want Zootopia to excel and succeed as one of the best things Disney has ever made. It’ll be awfully difficult with Toy Story 5 and Frozen 3 releasing the year after but as a still fresh franchise, Zootopia has limitless potential in becoming a franchise that spans generations with stories besides the ones with Nick and Judy but also side characters, new characters and even places outside the city of Zootopia. But the question is, will Disney realize that kind of potential? Probably not.
I’ll tell you, even though they’re not announced but rumored . The only Disney and Pixar sequels Im expect is big hero 6 and finding Nemo and I want them both to come out on the same year that will have a double the enjoyment.
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Disney makes an original movie these days - maybe 1 trailer and maybe some hype the week before it comes out. Disney makes a sequel - nonstop mentioning it for weeks until it comes out. The issue is the way they market their films - it's lazy, sequels market themselves as we already know the property... New stuff needs more push but they just don't want to invest in that.
If the Pixar Couples clip ought to be upgraded, it ought to include Joe Gardner and 22, Buzz Lightyear and Jessie and Ember and Wade.
I wish for A Bug's Life and Brave to have sequels of their own.
I could imagine it addressing that the Queen died since Phylis Diller passed away. But for Hemlich, what can they do with him if they want to get an impersonator as well as addressing Joe Ranft’s passing
I already completed honoring Black History Month with Soul. Now I can make a banner for Black History Month the Disney/Pixar way; it'll honor all the African Americans along with the actual Africans and African Brits across the planet along with the ones who are Disney and Pixar fans like me; it'll show Joe Gardner, Princess Tiana, Lucius Best/Frozone, Cobra Bubbles and Penny Proud.
Song of the South. James Baskett earned an Honary Academy Award for his efforts. The first black person to earn an Academy Award and the last adult actor to earn an Honary Academy Award for a single performance. Unfortunately, his performance is lost to history because Disney has decided to "cancel" the film and any reference of it, e.g. Splash Mountain. A shame.
When Inside Out 2 succeeds, Disney is going to get rid of Universal once in for all!
They take too long to come out with a sequel. When a movie is really good and there’s potential for more, it’s years when they come out. ie. “The Incredibles, Inside out, Monsters Inc” ( still waiting for the second one). We don’t need more Toy Story sequels or Frozen. It gets old the more sequels they make. You can’t compete with Wicked 💚
Elio reminds me of Luca and could have had similar box-office results if Luca got a proper release in 2021.
Disney plus really makes going to the theater to see these movies pointless. Just wait a few months and watch it at home for way less cost. Movies like Dune 2 and Mission Impossible are made for the big screen. Disney animated movies are not needed to be seen on the big screen.
your pronunciation of "ennui" was adorable. don't be afraid to get frenchy with it! "on-weeeeee"
😂 I will in future haha
@@DSNYNewscast Now you KNOW I'll be listening for it lol.
I think Disney is scared of original ideas because they could fail If they make a sequel that has frozen in the title with Anna and Elsa on the cover people are gonna pay to see it no matter how bad it is
I can't wait for "Toy Story 12" and "Frozen 9." Yes, it's their money, and they can make worn-out sequels if they wish; however, they shouldn't expect people to continue to consider Disney a creative company. Walt Disney loved the word "imagination." Apparently, the folks who run the movie studio haven't heard of the word.
I will then make a poster for The Human Body: The Pixar Style. It will feature Joe Gardner and his soul and Riley Anderson and her emotions.
We're gonna get a Barbenheimer effect on Moana 2 and Wicked because what made the phenomenon work was how both films were different in tone (one is light and happy, the other is dark and serious). Wicked and Moana 2 fall into the former.
Can wait for this movies 🍿
I think they need to look at all of those movies getting good sequels and pay attention to what made the originals great. They had great stories that were simpler, and didn't try to upset large groups, they were just fun and relatable.
I think it’s fair to call 2018-2026, the “Sequel Era” of Disney.
All movies from 2020-2023 excluding Lightyear as a spinoff were original movies.
The "Sequel/Prequel, Remake/Reboot Era". Just expand it to 2014.
Inside Out 2 being about the girl becoming a teenager makes it the sequel with the most potential, for the simple reason that the premise is THE logical direction to take a sequel. Not a "cash grab," but the natural way to go with little to no risk of "same old same old."
And I hope there can be a second Monsters, Inc. prequel film as well; Monsters: Birthright.
I agree with you, Jack. I think these animated sequels can work if they expand the story, and in the case of Moana and Frozen, have at least one showstopper song. Sequels are a business decision, not a creative decision, as you point out. I'm curious to see what effect the upcoming live-action remakes of films like Moana and Snow White will have on the upcoming animated sequels.
It is kind of interesting, since most of Disney's other properties as well have been sequels over the past couple years. The Marvels (Captain Marvel 2), Guardians 3, Ant Man 3. We are getting Deadpool 3, a sequel series to X-Men, a sequel series to WandaVision. Even Mando, is getting his own sequel movie. Kind of interesting.
Apart from the "it will appear on disney+" some of the biggest factors holding back original IP are most likely.....is the poster/trailing intriguing, is the concept intriguing, does the potential audience grasp the idea.....Moana (princess) won where Wish failed (Wish looked a bit too much like Tangled without the Braid styling where Moana had a very fresh setting never done before by Disney). Turning Red and Elio which were 2 excellent movies had some trouble communicating their concept on top of being dumped straightaway on Disney+. For my book those 2 were some of the best recent offerings. Zootopia did an excellent job of getting it's concept across and won all across the board, where Strange World left things maybe somewhat too vague? Elementals despite being quite good, at first glance looked like PIXAR doing it's Pixar standard Toys/planes/Cars/Emotions/Fish/Bugs/ploy once too many - double since the Elements were stand-ins for a certain set of Emotions as well. Encanto intrigued enough with a fresh setting and a musical hook to draw in the crowds and become a phenomenon. Raya was still way better than it's box office faith, but did come too soon on the heels of the live action Mulan i think. More girl action from Asia. If you taken an IP that's already popular, you get a certain inbuilt safe part of the audience......but in the end (even with Marvel) fatigues will set in. I guess they can go the whole round with four seasons in Frozen....but uhm better come up with some real character development for them all
I think the biggest hits will be Moana 2 and Zootopia 2. With the sequels to Marvel not doing well, I think as long as the reviews are good, people will show up to see them. Especially Zootopia as isn't Zootopia land coming to the Disney Parks overseas.
Not Moana 2 unless folks go to see it over and over simply because Moana is in it regardless of hwo they feel about the film. An easy way to tell how folks will respond is to check out Atlantis II: Milos REturn, and compare that to Atlnatis : The Lost Empire, then after doing that comapre the music of The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2 to songs from the first. There's your Moana sequel. You're welcome.
I think predicting similar box office numbers to anything pre-2020 is being overly generous. Streaming has changed the game. Huge box office returns are still possible, but are way fewer and farther between. You have to put out something special or people will just wait to watch it at home.
Where did you get your hoodie?!
It’s from H&M in 2020. But the bleach effect I did myself
This unfortunately show’s Disney is devoid of creativity……they have damaged their brand with their unhinged desire to shove “a not so secret agenda” down customers throats at the expense of good storytelling and writing; then chastise the customer’s when they rejected that message…..the formula for success is simple…cater to your customers and give them high quality stories with good value.
Disney need to understand that most people rather watch new movies at home on their big 4K or 8k tvs , that’s one of the reason why Disney isn’t hitting big at the box office
I can't speak for most of these movies but i Suspect Zootopia2 will Make a billion dollars As long as they do a good job with the story... I will definitely be going to see Zootopia2.
I had to agree with you
Given what's been going on since 2016 it doesn't surprise me that a Disney Princess testing the boundaries has been so popular
I cannot put into words how excited I am for Zootopia 2. The first one was just SO good. I felt like it had depth a lot of Disney movies lack.
Barbenheimer was a one time thing, I hope studios don't think it's gonna happen again for a while because, it isn't.
The problem is the movies they are making sequels of were at one point unproven self contained movies. Without having new ideas Disney won’t have any new franchises in the future and many are having major sequel fatigue look at that has happened to the MCU. I would be willing to bet at least two of these sequels are massive flops.
Disney is creatively bankrupt when all you’re doing is going back to the same IPs… I mean I love the first 3 Toy Story’s but come on, that well is dry… You can only milk these franchises for so long, look what happened to Marvel, audience fatigue will soon seep in
I plan to see Zootopia 2 once a week until it leaves theatres because 1. I LOVE Zootopia, and 2. I want it to do well. And I do expect it to do really well. The Asian market still CRAVES Zootopia to this day. And i know a LOT of people in the states who want one too, and I say that as a former WDW cast member myself. People want Zootopia. The story is definitely what is going to make Zootopia 2's box office performance hard to predict as well. But honestly I don't care. I just want more from this world and to see Nick and Judy again after so long
Not if they decide to make Moana have a pair of coconuts under her waistline and buzz light year take woody to infinity and beyond. Maybe if they get back to just making good movies
I think Toy Story 5 and Frozen 3 will be the two top movies of success. Because Toy Story is very much orientated and aimed at boys while it is also made for girls from a slight perspective with Barbbie and Woodies love cowboy girl. However, Frozen 3 is made for girls mostly indefinitely while also slightly aiming at boys. With both these movies being released two separate years or two diffirent times of the year I can see them succeeding in terms of pulling both male and female kid audience and making 1 billion at the box office. This will then secure and up the finances of the Walt Disney Company.
They need to hold out longer on putting theater movies on Disney + because I'm saying to my self, more often, that I will just wait for it on Disney + because I already am paying for it.
If Disney is planning to make Big Hero 6 sequel, and when T.J. Miller is out of the picture due to the allegations, who would voice Fred for Big Hero 6 sequel?
How about the guy who voiced Ruffnut after replacing TJ Miller for How to Train a your Dragon 3
I will keep saying that this is the smartest thing they can possibly do right now with their movies not clicking with everybody like they used too. As much as Iger frustrated me last year with the strikes he still knows to leave the creatives be to make this stuff and it'll produce good results. Doing these sequels now can help them relearn what made people fall in love with their animated movies in the first place or even teach the newer generation at disney as I'm sure there's plenty of new faces there too. All he's asked for is to make these sequels but it's up to the creatives how to proceed with that, and fingers crossed it sall pans out great cause god am I sick of the constant Disney hate.
Sequels this year seem to especially be a money grab. New Disney low when they won’t bring back the original voice actors for main characters due to money 🤦🏻♂️🙄😡😡😡. Then Moana 2 converted from a tv series with no Lin Manuel coming back? Don’t ruin both incredible franchises just for money
I think Disney needs to do the good old princess, evil bad guy (who really is evil) story. Its their wheelhouse. But this time make the prince also a great character. Not a thief or dummy.
They did the evil villain schtick with Wish but no one watched it. I prefer good v. evil tales mixed in with some other archetypes as well.
Ruby Gillman’s box office failure is blamed on the way Universal marketed it and announcing the release date at the last minute
I will answer with a big, fat, meaty, juicy...maybe? The truth of the matter is that box office tendencies have changed drastically thanks to the pandemic to the point where one minute a big legacy IP film breaks records while another just flat out bombs. The fact that in 2023 we had so many tent pole releases, perhaps the biggest in years, that just flopped shows that audience expectations are all over the place. The main reason Barbie and Oppenheimer were big hits because of the unintentional synergy created by the Internet through memes, thus the audience made it into a big event that everyone had to watch. So these sequels can either bring audiences back if they are treated like big, don't miss events, or again flop and make people say "I'll wait till it hits streaming". That's a reality many movies are facing now, especially animated films.
The only way to have a successful franchise is to have a successful original. You obviously can’t only produce sequels. Disney has to figure out how to restore that magic on a consistent basis. And it’s not just about making good movies. It’s about movie distribution and consumption today. They sacrificed box office dollars for streaming dollars. If you consider your Disney+ subscription a sunk cost, you can see any Disney release for free as long as you wait a few months. Disney has to address that change in consumer behavior they helped bring about.
Chicken and egg. Disney does like franchises but at some point they need to introduce new franchises.
To be fair, Frozen 1&2 were prequels to the Snow Queen, so Frozen 3 could do the Snow Queen story.
Inside out 2 will do good
You can’t regain the magic when you refuse to acknowledge what killed the magic. Bobby Iger has little self-awareness, so I hold little hope. And Moana’s change from a TV show to a feature movie was only driven by a need to have a positive announcement at the latest earnings call.
I don’t know how it is in the United kingdom, but it is very much a culture war in the United States. and quite frankly, it’s gotten to the point where parents are making very defensive decisions, now in order to protect their children. I personally have very little opinion about how someone chooses to live their life as it is their choice. But as a father, I do not appreciate anyone trying to take the parent away from me and say that they know what’s best for my son. And Disney has done that multiple times in the last three years, in my opinion, that is why they continue to fail, and until they fix that they will get worse instead of better.
I really hope that helps and I really want to see the magic again and I am very excited for the Moana sequel
What about encanto sequel or Frozen 4
Pred. 2031 for frozen 4
These Anoucments & new sequels spells disater & Desperation for Disney!!! I don't think People gave Wish(example) a chance because of the Movie Prices,Disney+,etc. If they really want audiences back into the theater they need to do these sequels based on popular IPs.
I am only interested in Inside out 2. I haven't even watched the first Moana actually. Also the original kids from Frozen in 2013 are not the kids anymore in the age to watch a part 3.
The same will go for his friends for their flags.
Frozen 3 is coming out on my Sister’s Birthday
KZheadrs love to tout the Chinese box office as a major factor in box office success. Unlike domestic business, studios only receive up to 25% of receipts; the Chinese take 75%.
A good movie is a good movie, sequel or not. For me non of these movies are very enticing. I found the first Frozen fine as a coming out story but the second one was so bad as the characters made the exact same mistakes as in the first movie. Inside Out just didn't do anything for me although the premise was unique. Moana was a fun movie but I don't know if I want a second movie, call it a maybe. I can't remember anything about Zootopia, clearly it didn't do anything for me. I like how Elio looks, the trailer is great and I have high hopes for it. It's also one of the few Disney movies with a boy as a lead and no princess or prince stuf in there.
What about Star vs The Forces of Evil movie is coming to theaters in 2027?
If I see the team behind Moana 2, I don't know if it will make the 1 billion mark... People want quality 😅
I'm only 4 min in, but I'm thinking... If you don't intro he new IP or characters, you don't have new stuff to get into parks, hotels, and cruise ships. Easier to handle.