Why The Apple Watch Is Losing Its Blood Oxygen Sensor
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In a video from last month, I explained why the Apple Watch was being banned in the US. And it had to do with its blood oxygen sensor violating a patent held by a medical devices company called Masimo.
I ended the video by giving three possible solutions that could end the ban: Apple could create a new algorithm and sensor to measure blood oxygen that avoids patent violation, they could pay a settlement to Masimo for damages and properly license their patent, or they could rely on a US trade representative to veto the ban completely.
Well, in typical Apple fashion, they defied everyone’s expectations and simply removed the feature altogether.
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Incredible how you’ll be paying the same for less features
This is the Apple way lol
*fewer
Then buy it for sale.
Masimo forced apple to do this
to be fair it will still be a software lock. they will still include the hardware in case something changes I think
I wouldn’t buy an Apple Watch that doesn’t have the blood oxygen reader. Without that it’s a normal fitness watch for more money
Depends on how you use it, I'm heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem, and this watch helps me unlock devices, approve prescriptions, and stay on track in my private practice and day to day life. The seamlessness is critical.
@@isocarboxazidso what you’re saying is you’re a medical provider who probably makes well over 6 figures and can afford it despite losing functionality.
@@johnmoore1495 no, what they're saying is they're heavily invested in Apple's ecosystem, and this watch helps them unlock devices, approve prescriptions, and stay on track in my private practice and day to day life. The seamlessness is critical for them.
Just go buy a masimo watch that has the blood oxygen feature and leave the rest of us alone.
This is pre Steve Jobs returning level of bad decision making. Apple:”Market our watches best feature as this blood oxidation sensor, then end up getting forced on making a decision to secure the rights to include it but instead choose to forego that and just drop the sensor all together “
Looking at the Ultra Watch 2 as of 20.02.23 the Blood oxygen feature is available in the UK but not in the US which would indicate that the sensor is currently disabled in the US.
I just purchased a new Series 9 on Jan. 10 to replace my old Series 5. I need the blood oxygen sensor feature for my medical condition (and the old watch’s battery was dying). I was assured at the Apple Store that my new watch’s blood oxygen sensor would never be disabled through software, and that it could always be fixed if it broke. They also said the patent issue would not affect any watches already sold.
Thanks for this info
i mean to be fair, you’re listening to VERY low level employees who make absolutely no decisions for the company. I’d take what they promise with a grain of salt imo
You are much better off getting a pulse oximeter for medical reasons and not rely on a smart watch
@@akin1092I presume apple would rather go the route of paying a fair market rate settlement and minimal compensation for damages especially if they can prove there was no intent to infringe on the patent during R&D
Bro apple specialists are airheads I know a girl who worked there for two years she barely knew the apple products itself. She skimmed through all the training modules too and so do a lot of employees. They get fired left and right for stupid shit and give misleading information. They told a customer she could return AirPods to a macys run apple dept 😂. You can still return the watch btw doesn’t matter that you opened it
A little less? It’s one of the key features it’s scandalous
Uh no it isn’t lol. Do you have COPD or something? Thats about one of the only situations in which this is a “key” feature
not really
I never use that feature
It’s definitely stupid that Apple just straight up removed it instead of forking over some of the BILLIONS they have in cash but this is absolutely NOT a key feature.
@@Tevon93yeah only you tho
I hope they can figure something else out. Because I’m actually one of the folks who use this feature.
Like paying for patent?
@@ZhoRZh37 Imagine supporting scammers, they should just change it so that this scammer company wont get a single penny for doing absolutely nothing
this used to be very important feature and very useful for the worst months of the pandemic but now that mostly gone back to normal it isn't as beneficial to me anymore
@@skyMcWeeds hey I feel you, but the feature is very useful for folks with actual health issues that need to keep tabs on things.
@@ZhoRZh37 why hasn’t the company gone after the likes of Samsung and co?
apple literally just took away the whole reason the buy a series 9 over se 2
Now I never regret buying my SE2
not really tbh cuz the se doesn’t let u type on a keyboard. Just scribble and voice dictation which is horrible apple should specify that on the diagrams
@@PeterParkerwon yeah fair point
@@Someone-oy2li same here.., i wish there was AOD in SE
The S9 has a lot more benefits over the SE outside of the oxygen sensor.
just pay whatever Mosimo asks for already. how much could it really be to buy a bloody license when you are a technogiant like Apple? ffs they had been buying companies all over the world for licenses and techs.
Exactly my thought
The problem is that the little brother shareholders want big brother to share his profits and this is not what big brother's shareholders want!
That would be like submitting to a blackmailer's demands.
They could probably buy them in cash, they just don’t want to.
@@lbgstzockt8493 Then probably, in accordance with Apple's belief, that would mean they admit they did have patent infringement and it paves the way to others to claim something else on Apple later. Also, Massimo claims they spent $50M to get Apple to this stage. Do you think Massimo only sits and watches to see Apple comes first suggesting purchasing Massimo? They wanna bigger fish to catch, a partnership with Apple could boost their stock share value and easily adds up a couple of hundred million dollars to the company's name & assets. Now you see why they spent $50M.
Hoping to see the blood oxygen features remain on non US watches or on watches made before the ban
Awesome. I am so glad that I got the Apple Watch Series 9 (45mm) before the new versions without the blood oxygen sensor come out.
My god Apple is really that petty that they’d rather sell their customers a gimped Apple Watch than pay the royalties for the patents they stole
We’ll said!
Stole? They didnt steal anything, its just like always, small company makes patent for everything and also those patents get made like theyre made by children so that it generally describes how to read blood oxygen and then sues big companies over nothing to make money because they cant make money through actual work
They didn’t actually steal them. One of the inventors worked for both Apple and massimo.
@@danh5637 The court ruled that Apple violated Masimo’s patents, ergo Apple stole it. There’s no sugarcoating it. Apple got caught plain and simple and has to pay the consequences
@@DrAnimePhD nope I’m sorry a patent violation doesn’t mean somebody stole anything. It just means one company filed a patent first. As I say and as came out in the court case the person who did blood oxygen for Apple also worked for massimo. The very same person. Massimo happened to file a patent first and that’s just how it goes. It just means they were awarded the patent first. And apple is now violating their patent.
I’ve had my 7 for 2 years. First (and last) time I used that function was last month, just to see if I had it.
Is this only for the US, how are other markets affected? I'm from Australia and considering the S9 to replace my SE.
Dont. SE the best
S9 is a waste se is still goood
does the ban also apply to other smartwatch manufacturers like samsung and fitbit?
They could only remove the software for watches, already manufactured. So this is definitely just a software thing. Optical (photoplethysmography): These devices use infrared light to see the expansion of your arteries as your heart pumps blood through them. These devices track your pulse rate, and some can also estimate the oxygen levels in your blood. All the watches going forward, even if the software removed will always have the ability to measure blood oxygen level.
I'm wondering if international models will still have the sensor?
This is only for US market not for the European market too? In Europe is the patent not a problem?
Does this affect other countries’ Apple Watches?
1:26 affected
*effected
yep it's supposed to be "affected" not "effected"
I wonder if they’ll disable it on my ultra 2. I have the launch version so it’s still working on mine
I have a series 7 and it still works on my watch. I don’t use the feature too often but I guess it’s still nice to have.
I’m from Canada. Does this affect me too, or just the US?
Does anyone know if the Blood Oxygen app on the Series 9 will be disabled in country Malaysia ? Or these feature will be disabled during iOS update ?
It has made a blackmarket for watches WITH the Blood Oxygen Sensor, except those with the software update that happened recently that disables watches purchased after 1/19. My sister and mom are always bragging how theirs has a feature that others don't.
Imagine getting a feature disabled in a device which you bought with full price 💀
how did u miss the fact that apple watches with BO sensors already in them aren't affected by this? it's a 2 minute video bro bro
@@CrowJamz let apple implement first then we will see. They even promised to let us use 3rd part app stores but now they gonna charge 30% for that. That show how greedy the apple sales department is
Scared to updated to watchOS 17.3. Really suspecting it'll disable the sensor.
What is the soundtrack in the background?
In my experience the blood oxygen sensor on my Apple Watch Ultra is highly inaccurate compared to readings I get from my Oxiline oximeter.
Ehh in testing they’re pretty good but not quite on the same level as medical devices. They tend to under read by a few points, but overall still good and will detect low 02 levels
Just got a one and now I wonder if I should open and use it or try to flip it
Why does FaceId still require a passcode after a certain amount of uses?
iPhone resets biometrics (Face ID & Touch ID) for security reasons and also so u don’t forget ur passcode.
Hold on. That patent is restricted to the US only right? What happens to non-US (and/or UK) customers?
Nothing, these modified watches are only for the US.
Is this only in the usa and not in europe?
Me with apple watch SE2: Nice show!
Are there any online vendors selling the version with the O2 sensor?
The big question is will the Oximeter in current models be disabled by a future “bug fix” software update. While in practice I find the O2 sensor has little utility, it was one of the features I upgraded for, I wouldn’t want Apple to disable the feature.
It has quite the utility in suggesting sleep apnea
@@amedicabg good to know, I currently use iWatch at night to monitor sleep quality and HRV.
01:25 -EFFECTED- AFFECTED 👍
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@@jm94008 🤪
1:23 "affected" is spelled with an "a," not "effected"
I have a Series 3, does this mean I can get a new one for free@!?
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Definitely would not say you are paying the same price for "a little less". That is downplaying this by quite a bit. This is a major feature and until this gets sorted out I personally can't justify purchasing one.
Could u make a video and explain why the iphone has a camera?
I bet this will be your most popular video in 6 years
what does this mean for older models sold on Amazon for example?
the ban is for new watches refurbished watches will still have blood o2
@@walkerwarrior8943 That's good I was thinking about buying one,,I already have an iPhone and a MacBook Air
I can't believe you mixed up the words affected and effected, on a KZhead channel with 1,4 million subs
Can you explain to me how is it that 4 major companies (Walmart, Amazon, Target and Best Buy) can sell these watch with the blood oxygen and the 3 major carries are included in the banned (AT&T, T-Mobile, and Big RED 🤔)?
So is it only in the US? I can still buy one in Canada with a blood oxygen sensor?
Yes. Canadian models are unaffected. Be prepared to get bent over at the border with duties if you do get one though. Unless you want to take your chances lying to the border officer.
apple needs to be boycotted to learn to spend their money in favor to profits AND consumers. selling the same thing for less because they refuse to license the patent they stole is ludacris
Wonder if they’re changing the watches in Canada. Either way, it’s not a feature I use and I’ve got a Series 8. Disappointed though for the people who use this feature though
Its a patent… patents only work in 1 country so unless that small company also got a patent in canada and sues them no
Looking at the Ultra Watch 2 as of 20.02.23 the Blood oxygen feature is available in the UK but not in the US which would indicate that the sensor is currently disabled in the US.
50 years from now Apple Watches with a functional blood oxygen sensor will be worth a fortune
Guess I’ll be replacing the battery in my S6 when it fails… lol
No they won’t
Apple does planned obsolescence in their newer models and lineups for a few years now. I would be surprised if the hardware lasted a decade of use.
@@ililiilililllli My old watch has. For communication with legacy hardware, Apple’s been pretty good at it since the iPod
I hope they keep it. I use it a lot.
I need the oxygen feature. I’ve been saving to purchase one for myself. 😢
gonna get a second hand one.
It still works on me series 9 that I bought on like the 7th idk when
“Pay the same, get less. Know we made a joke out of you and still remain loyal.” - not Steve Jobs
I’m glad that I got my Watch Series 8 1/1/23 way b4 this copyright issue was even known to us consumers.
Will the blood oxygen sensor remain in australia?
The ban isn’t in Australia, so if you get an Apple Watch right now, you will have the blood oxygen sensor.
I stopped updating watch OS after 9 came out. Watch os10 is just a pain to use
I bought mine new from Amazon and I got lucky and it still supports spo2
Price will be affected or lowered ❓
No changes to prices of the Ultra2 and S9, Apple being apple👍
Now all Apple Watch will be Apple Watch SE some just with fancier materials 🤣
Rawr
what about people outside the us (for example me in the uk)
Yeah- was planning to buy but I won’t now
I bought the latest SE because I never really needed the O2 sensor. I then bought a separate Oximeter which is way cheaper and accurate.
Which one did you buy?
@@1Saynex I got the latest Apple Watch SE and I also bought a separate Oximeter. 🙂 Both are serving my needs very well. 🙂
I love how this channel covers everything Apple related but 80% of the content is "why did this Apple product lose X feature". (The channel is good, it's just corporate irony)
It sad for apple why does that company need to do that
Well, I guess I’ll used my ultra 2 until then
TopG
Will this affect Samsung watches at all?
Just had to transfer my Ultra to my new iPhone and the updated WatchOS removed the O2 sensor functionality
Unpopular Opinion: Tim Cook Should Be Fired Over The Masimo Debacle. Let's look at the facts: (1) In 2013, Apple met with Masimo about using their technology. (2) Instead of purchasing the company or licensing the technology, they hired away their top engineers. (3) Now that Apple has been caught with their hand in the cookie jar, they'd rather remove features from the Apple Watch, hurting customers, instead of buying the company or licensing its tech. This has all the markings of a petulant child, not a seasoned CEO. This is early 80's Steve Jobs kind of behavior. And that behavior got him kicked out of his own company.
i am so glad i kept my firts gen ultra watch and did not upgrade
Irish people who do/did LC Biology or BOTH LC Biology LC Chemistry who has an iPhone 15 Pro or iPhone 15 Pro Max also have the Apple Watch Series 9
Did you make a video about the apple credit card?
yes u did
@@MattGarcyaDCbro you good you replied on your own conment
@@warbass5274he can read thoughts
I realised that the movement with the fingers on the Apple Watch s9 is probably for the use like a controller on the Vision Pro for the click
is this only in us?
They better get a discount on the Apple Watch if this is true…💀
It's not. It's under court review.
Yay! My Ultra 2 just got more valuable!!! 😂
Awesome, prices go down on previous models and Europe not effected so looks like this year’s Apple Watch is 2023 for all
Apple wont be lowering prices.
@@MrSamPhoenix Apple may not but other sellers usually do, Apple’s MacBook Air 2018 Retina was a laptop that Apple sold significantly higher than other retailers and seen plenty of times Apple Watches being sold significantly lower prices than what Apple is charging. I expect a lot of sellers pushing the 2023 models this year for great deals
As much as I like their products, Apple is a greedy, green washing company so don't expect them to lower the prices.
@@MrSamPhoenix cant you read properly?
@@MrSamPhoenixhe means stuff will get cheaper on eBay.
1:23 affected*
I have an Apple Watch Series 9 with the blood oxygen sensor
Im gonna stick to my series 7 then
Yet you said watch 10 would include the functionality.
1:23 *affected You’re (read: Your) welcome.
Luckily I bought my series 9 a month before the ban was even talked about 👍🏻
Apple is the king of removing features, calling it innovation, then getting their customers to buy said products with removed features
Dude they did it because they got sued .
It’s really the only reason I even desire to keep my Apple Watch (7) If the battery peters out on this one and Apple hasn’t worked it out, I’m not purchasing another.
Oh
Because Hal said it couldnt do that
Hello
I’m a apple user but I wear an amazing gts 4 watch , and for me it’s the greatest one because the battery lasts for ever , and most importantly it has a blood oxygen sensor
We need Steve Jobs to save apple
The only selling point of Series 6 got eliminated.
How does Samsung get around this with its blood oxygen sensor in its watch?
because samsung didn't rip off masimo?
Did bro know it’s next month this month?
affected, not effected