Broken Cars?! How GTA Spoilers & Downforce Works - GTA 5 Fact-Finding №37

2024 ж. 9 Мам.
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The Itali RSX, Comet S2, and X80 Proto all have things wrong with them. Let's find out what.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction & Background
04:03 - Default Downforce
05:08 - Regular Spoiler Mechanics
05:56 - Old Downforce Mechanics
08:24 - New Downforce Mechanics
10:23 - Open Wheel Downforce Mechanics
11:08 - Active Spoilers
12:23 - Broken Cars
17:31 - Conclusion
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    @broughy1322@broughy13222 жыл бұрын
    • "mammoth undertaking" are you hinting at a new car you have info on here?

      @JediDude23@JediDude232 жыл бұрын
    • And MOM said I couldn't learn anything from playing video games. Nice vid Broughy

      @Dr-Jan-itor@Dr-Jan-itor2 жыл бұрын
    • I like the imaginary wings in the game , like the cheetah classic . rear engine vanity hood with no spoiler and still gets the down force of a wing ..... must be the weight of the glass I guess LOL rockstar logic.

      @kaptainkmann7808@kaptainkmann78082 жыл бұрын
    • See, my thing is, that not only should spoilers have little to no effect on traction in GTA V/Online, but the different categories of wheels SHOULD (and to even greater of an effect than spoilers currently do). 'Cause spoilers actually have very little to do with traction in the real world. So if that's what R* was trying to achieve, (as far as the vehicles in their game) then they kinda missed the mark a little bit. R* should've made the spoilers to be more focused on increasing acceleration (specifically down slopes), as they have a far greater effect on that aspect of vehicles in the real world, on the aerodynamics and wind resistance of vehicles.

      @ShaneOMac158@ShaneOMac1582 жыл бұрын
    • Imo the most broken cars are still that of the tuners dlc drift specific mods for cars that are broken no mid speed boost renders them useless with low grips and not much better with standard tyres wish there was a way to get them back how they were I mean nerf the calico one cars better than the whole dlcs cars right??

      @topherb83topher51@topherb83topher512 жыл бұрын
  • Here I was thinking nothing could surprise me anymore with the broken mechanics in this game but holy crap the x80 thing is so hilarious. can't believe it🤣 great work on this video

    @BodeTV@BodeTV2 жыл бұрын
    • Same for me, was thinking it can’t get any crazier and then this… It does explain though why the X80 is such a hassle to handle sometimes so thanks Brough for that!

      @luukjansen4221@luukjansen42212 жыл бұрын
    • I'm honestly curious what they'll break next...

      @nightlythievery@nightlythievery2 жыл бұрын
    • There's a dev at Rockstar sitting in a cubicle, fed up with no-one ever being happy with his attempted improvements to new cars, who decided one day while working on the x80 "Screw it, let those never-satisfied racers see just how bad things could have been".

      @Thermalions@Thermalions2 жыл бұрын
  • This X-80 thing surprizes me. How in the world can someone come up with a gaming mechanic that acts like the equivalent to flushing water spinning in the toilet on the northern/southern hemisphere?

    @reptiloidmitglied2930@reptiloidmitglied29302 жыл бұрын
    • Lol

      @anch95@anch952 жыл бұрын
    • As an amateur game developer I easily understand how could they make this mistake. 3D space mechanics are quite complicated. The intention probably was to check if the car turning left or right and only apply downforce to one side.

      @shortcat@shortcat Жыл бұрын
    • @@shortcat And then they forgot to remove the "test" flag...

      @Timberwolf69@Timberwolf69 Жыл бұрын
    • The water spinning thing is not true

      @rhino5250@rhino5250 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ll be honest, I’ve been racing competitively in this game for nearly 8 years now, and call me arrogant, I wasn’t expecting to learn anything new here. But I’ll hold my hands up, I had no idea whatsoever that the X80 behaved differently depending on your location on the map, and it’s absolutely blown my mind lmao. GGs mate, good video 👏

    @bagginzhd1715@bagginzhd17152 жыл бұрын
    • damn your YT name sounds familiar i might have raced and lost to you if ur GTAO name is the same

      @klot2675@klot26752 жыл бұрын
    • I don't even race competitively, and I still thought this was gonna be an explanation about spoilers, and grip levels (stuff most of us who watch Brough's streams, and videos would know), and then BOOM! the X80 revelation. lmao

      @elshelbarino@elshelbarino2 жыл бұрын
    • Why not buy a proper racing game? lol

      @S1lverArr0w@S1lverArr0w2 жыл бұрын
    • @@S1lverArr0w what game offers the type of racing gta does?

      @PLPlolol1@PLPlolol12 жыл бұрын
    • @@PLPlolol1 There are many. Gran Turismo being just one example. Look for yourself

      @S1lverArr0w@S1lverArr0w2 жыл бұрын
  • Ever since the RSX released and you said it was slower than intended, I always wanted to see what the "normal" RSX would look like around a track. At least now I've seen it's potential without it destroying the Sports class in the process.

    @jtr4256@jtr42562 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah it’s one of those “so now we know - let’s hope it never happens” type things

      @broughy1322@broughy13222 жыл бұрын
    • Would it have broken the supers category?

      @Imitationist@Imitationist2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Imitationist So if the RSX were to benefit solely from it's active spoiler, it would be roughly 1 second faster than the Emerus/Krieger. That's... a lot. 14:26 If the RSX were to benefit solely from its Downforce Modifier, it would be roughly 2 seconds faster than the Emerus/Krieger... That's broken. 14:44 Keep in mind that since the Cunning Stunts update about 5 years ago, R* has had a hard-on for downforce (vice spoilers). So by this trend, the RSX would have wrecked the Supers class. Keep in mind that Broughy's track tries to even out the amount of slow and fast sections (like a classic road race)... most R* stunt tracks are weighted towards fast turns which favors big downforce value cars such as the RSX. Nevermind the fact the RSX runs away from the Emerus/Krieger in top speed... It would be laughably broken. I actually always enjoyed racing the RSX despite owning a GTO, even though I knew I'd be battling understeer most of the time. The car is a low-down fat-bastard and you have to figure out how to tip toe around the corners. If R* figured activated any of its traction abilities, the car would become a cheat code. _____________ Edit: Looking at the Broughy's basic handling data broughy.com/gta5vehicleinfo the base cornering and straight line grips are pretty similar among all three vehicles. Keep in mind the Emerus is RWD and the Krieger is AWD but with only 20% power to the front wheels only. The RSX is AWD with 50/50 power to front/rear wheels, the braking power of the RSX is significantly better than either the two supercars, and its only downside is the bouncy Advanced Handling flag (which it battles with a relatively heavy weight). Effectively, if the RSX would much more easily fudge out braking/turning mistakes and could still quickly reset into a high-speed monster. It's an Itali GTO with a better engine, balance, transmission, brakes, and traction. The GTO already has top supercar pace - the RSX significantly improves on the GTO's gearing, weight (for balance against the bouncy AH flag), and brakes... This car shouldn't have been made. An amalgamation of these factors is why I think the free Turismo R (DLC - Criminal Enterprise Starter Pack) is the best thing R* ever offered. This Supercar, on face value has always been somewhat useable. It doesn't have the monster engine, it doesn't have a bajillion gears, and its grip is just okay. What it offers terrific braking in a classic RWD form. A lot of people think that you should give a newbie a cannon and completely fail the first corner, but if you give a newbie a pillow and they miss a swing in a friendly tussle... they can still stand and take another swing at the next corner. The RSX is a radar-guided rotary cannon in a pillow-fight. Ain't nobody gonna learn how to actually drive with it.

      @conorjohn490@conorjohn4902 жыл бұрын
    • @@conorjohn490 > which it battles with a relatively heavy weight mass has no effect on performance in any way. Also the RSX's extra gears ain't exactly much of a benefit, and there are lot of factors you don't see that go into performance that can completely make or break a car. That's why even the most skilled and knowledgable person can never make accurate estimates based on the handling data, that's why we NEED to test things in-game

      @Johnny362000@Johnny3620002 жыл бұрын
  • I really hope the Comet S2 is fixed, because damn, I love the Comet. It’s crazy how Rockstar is so terrible at making cars work properly The X80 thing is funny too, how can a car be that broken? Very informative video, nice work as always :)

    @heythatsmypoo@heythatsmypoo2 жыл бұрын
    • Still waiting bud, still waiting

      @Haemorrhoid_gaming@Haemorrhoid_gaming Жыл бұрын
    • @@Haemorrhoid_gaming Comet still ain't getting any love from R*

      @gerardbudzeniusz4332@gerardbudzeniusz43323 ай бұрын
  • I can't believe rockstar can make a car so broken that a custom track for the X80 sounds *really* interesting You can have corners with low grip and high grip on both sides of the map and it will take probably more skill to learn the X80 around a custom track for it than any other car

    @qnethe8014@qnethe80142 жыл бұрын
  • The x80 has been in the game for over 5 years now. I can't recall another car released since then that has separate flaps, wings, or the like for the right and left sides of the vehicle. Considering how "cool" of an idea this was when released, I'm convinced R* knew there was some symmetry issues and just scrapped the idea of future x80's instead of fixing it.

    @conorjohn490@conorjohn4902 жыл бұрын
    • That just adds more realism to the game! We ended up buying a prototype car that ended up getting scrapped because it couldn't be perfected! LOL

      @GrimAhren@GrimAhren2 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating video and many GGs to you, adam10603, Chilli, and Nismo for putting this together. If nothing else, I now feel less bad about my struggles in trying to drive the X80 Proto quickly. 😀

    @mrbiffo6729@mrbiffo67292 жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant video Broughy, great work. Only Rockstar could've came up with something as ridiculous as the X80 mechanics lol the Itali RSX is quite a "what if" tho, sub 56 second lap time is faster than the pre-nerf Emerus and Krieger, and it also comes with a 135 top speed.

    @dragonkrieg4444@dragonkrieg44442 жыл бұрын
    • I can't keep up anymore with all of their nerf, which one are you referring to about Krieger and Emerus?

      @NikkOcello17@NikkOcello172 жыл бұрын
    • @@NikkOcello17 they both used to be in the 57s, they're now both in the 58s

      @dragonkrieg4444@dragonkrieg44442 жыл бұрын
    • @@NikkOcello17 and the nerf in question for these cars is specific to the effect they get from using off-road wheels(as in, then don't get advantages from using them).

      @pedinhuh16@pedinhuh162 жыл бұрын
  • I can only imagine everyone's reactions when the X80 map position thing was figured out!

    @RJFerret@RJFerret2 жыл бұрын
  • design, handling file and price all point to the RSX having been intended as a supercar, and when a dev tested it just thrown into the sports class as there was no time to fix it before release

    @illdeletethismusic@illdeletethismusic2 жыл бұрын
    • Good observation. I always thought the RSX felt ridiculously out of place in sports, and by costing like 3 million it should have been the fastest supercar judging by rockstars behaviour. Thank god this bug exists, the sportscar class has some resemblance of balance

      @marciliojunior4919@marciliojunior49192 жыл бұрын
    • that would imply they class cars based on their performance

      @Johnny362000@Johnny3620002 жыл бұрын
    • irl the SF90 Stradale is an incredibly fast supercar so it really makes no sense why they decided to put it as a sports car and even the design of the body shape just screams supercar like

      @oldbastard1761@oldbastard17612 жыл бұрын
    • @@Johnny362000 you are implying rockstar has any sort of consistency xD

      @marciliojunior4919@marciliojunior49192 жыл бұрын
    • @@Johnny362000 to a certain extent they do, they keep adding cars that are slightly too fast for competitive racing to classes, except for when the cars have purchase criteria other than racing. it"s not how players would like stuff to be classed, or something that can create a consistent system, but it is a quite stable pattern

      @illdeletethismusic@illdeletethismusic2 жыл бұрын
  • So I always liked driving the X80 proto but it always just felt kinda weird and I never could put my finger on why and now I know. Thanks for the hard work! I wish the RSX was in supers class and they fixed the S2s

    @bearrett50kal17@bearrett50kal172 жыл бұрын
  • I had to quickly check it wasn't April 1st when you got to the X80 - unbelievable! 🤣

    @BloodySquirrels@BloodySquirrels2 жыл бұрын
  • My theory is that the RSX was supposed to be a Supers car OG, but it was cut from there and they "broke" it to nerf it down to Sports pace without putting in effort.

    @WynnofThule@WynnofThule2 жыл бұрын
    • it's one of the most expensive cars in the game, definitely doesn't make sense that it's not a super

      @richardbottom9843@richardbottom98432 жыл бұрын
    • @@richardbottom9843 Not just that, the general shape of the car also screams Super.

      @millbrick@millbrick2 жыл бұрын
    • Its based off of an SF90. Its incredulous to me how R* can justify it as a sports car.

      @BopPop42@BopPop422 жыл бұрын
    • @@BopPop42 well its also got some styling bits like the F8 Tributo and Centinaurio, only furthering that idea of it being a Supers reject

      @WynnofThule@WynnofThule2 жыл бұрын
    • i think you're giving Rockstar too much credit, it's more likely accidental breakage:D

      @CarlDraper@CarlDraper2 жыл бұрын
  • i like how they kinda try to make it a bit realistic but at the same time its so messy and inconsistent btw the swinger is the most fun in my opinion because its fast and kinda grippy but also loose enough to go flying wildly if you are not careful

    @HECKproductions@HECKproductions2 жыл бұрын
  • The X-80 segment had my metaphorical jaw on the floor. Rockstar are famous for there glitches but that might just be the most intentionally sounding unintentional glitch I've ever heard of

    @epsteinspilot3024@epsteinspilot3024 Жыл бұрын
  • I think having cars with less grip and proper 200mph top speed would make races way more fun.

    @chichochicc@chichochicc2 жыл бұрын
    • Just play forza

      @robohat4837@robohat48372 жыл бұрын
    • @@robohat4837 forza is shit.. feels like driving flying potatoes.

      @JoseNovaUltra@JoseNovaUltra2 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah and everyone in online racing in forza basically AWD swaps their cars for the best performance, creating the same problem

      @mioszantas4462@mioszantas44622 жыл бұрын
    • I dream of Gran Turismo physics ina GTA game

      @CarloPlaya@CarloPlaya2 жыл бұрын
    • @@robohat4837 forza sucks

      @Johnny362000@Johnny3620002 жыл бұрын
  • That video has blown my mind, the X80 proto bug seems crazy. Great work Brough, very informative and eye opening! P.S. i like the number plate on the S2 Cabrio

    @XDW44X@XDW44X2 жыл бұрын
    • I've never knew how to do custom plates, or is it just FiveM?

      @chichochicc@chichochicc2 жыл бұрын
    • @@chichochicc los Santos customs phone app

      @killerstream23@killerstream232 жыл бұрын
  • The X80 fact blew my goddamn mind, only C* is capable of something like that, incredible video Brough, also hoping GTA 6 has a little more thought put into it lol Also turned off adblock for this vid, you're one of the only creators that deserve it

    @joshuathomas512@joshuathomas5122 жыл бұрын
    • "Hoping GTA 6 has a bit more thought put into it" bro are you high? How did you watch this breakdown of unnecessarily detailed spoiler mechanics and come away with that conclusion Also if you think that that X80 bug is something "only R* is capable of" then I can only come to the conclusion you have never played another videogame

      @Johnny362000@Johnny3620002 жыл бұрын
  • oh my god I swear I noticed that the x80 proto changed its physics mid-drive whenever I was delivering it for vehicle cargo. Sometimes it felt like it had infinite grip while in other corners it felt like it just lost its downforce all of a sudden. I always assumed that I was crazy and I was just experiencing weird bumps in the road or curbs or whatever, after all it's an urban environment and there's plenty of reasons you can't drive a car through a city the way you would on a track. But to be validated like this is surreal

    @EMETRL@EMETRL2 жыл бұрын
  • The main thing i will always say is that the viseris's broken top speed is the speed i want to be driving with downforce cars. And for open wheelers it should be even higher i personally hope that with the next game we can have really high top speeds and adequate grip. I for one actually really enjoy the downforce cars but just wish their top speeds where way higher.

    @1EnZBosS1@1EnZBosS12 жыл бұрын
  • About X80.... *W H A T* This is definitely one of the most bizarre "bugs" i've ever seen in a videogame. Also it's flaps are working kinda slow and clunky, that explains the slowly rising turning curve.

    @Wanky_Woop@Wanky_Woop2 жыл бұрын
  • Crazy amount of effort out into this, congrats to broughy and all others involved. With YT being the place it is, sadly doubt you guys will get the views and traffic you deserve…. But those of us who watch these, we can’t ever thank you enough. What you do here is amazing. Thank you so much!

    @TheKeeperofChaos@TheKeeperofChaos2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for such a great video Broughy, some really great and even some ridiculous information here! The hype all week was well worth it, and it was fun to be apart of the thumbnail process on the twitch stream!

    @Cman04092@Cman040922 жыл бұрын
  • This was so well-made Huge props to you and the research team for putting it together!

    @sr_echo@sr_echo2 жыл бұрын
  • to be honest the comet S2s and the itali RSX deserve the speed that they are missing, maybe just lower the base downforce modifier so that it isnt too op because i do love the itali RSX

    @pallalero@pallalero2 жыл бұрын
  • Remarkable, as always - thank you Broughy for being our resident expert, nice work on the thumbnail, too! :)

    @matthewoshea_@matthewoshea_2 жыл бұрын
  • Would have loved seeing an estimation on how much the X80 proto´s performance on your test-track has been affected by the bugged flaps. Maybe a side by side with corners suitable for the x80 (either left or right combinations) with other super cars as a benchmark. Great video regardless, will definitely watch it again from time to time!

    @Daegor1405@Daegor14052 жыл бұрын
    • Most of the corners are right turns, and with the track being on the right hand side of the map, it means the x80 will have been acting like it has no spoiler for most of the lap. Probably loses maybe 0.5-1 second or so I’d guess, since it’s not the most grippy car in general to be fair so wouldn’t be as badly affected as say an Osiris or T20

      @broughy1322@broughy13222 жыл бұрын
    • @@broughy1322 (I know you're frackin' busy) Be careful with your comments. You make it seem as if the Osiris and T20 are also affected by the same map symmetry bug as the X80. Edit: the only car determined in this video to have a different WDV based on location is the X80. Your Osiris and T20 are safe everywhere in GTA5.

      @conorjohn490@conorjohn4902 жыл бұрын
    • @@conorjohn490 only if you're shit at reading comprehension

      @Johnny362000@Johnny3620002 жыл бұрын
  • Makes me think of the guys in GT1 in MCEC S4, having to drive the X80 for 90 minutes around BC24h xD

    @shadyfruit@shadyfruit2 жыл бұрын
  • Now I think about it, I used to drive the X80 from La Mesa to the casino all the time and I would wing it at the left hand turn (near the broken bridge spot next to the new auto shop) and it would work fine, but when I go back I always felt like I had to go slower. Not sure if its just placebo but hey I guess now I have an explanation

    @dootjai@dootjai2 жыл бұрын
  • Just wanna say this is the first vid of yours and first gta vid I've seen in years. I'm impressed by your breakdown of the math, and wanted to let you know the algorithm brought me here!

    @0sm1um76@0sm1um762 жыл бұрын
  • Have been subscribed to you ever since the original Cunning Stunts update back in summer of 2016. Cheers on all of your hard work, I’m serious.

    @DarkVoxis@DarkVoxis2 жыл бұрын
  • Superb work adam10603, Chilli, Nismo & Broughy. I can see why this video took so much time & effort to make. Discovering how the game mechanics work is one thing, but you also ensured all your findings backed up with solid live data visible on screen for all to see. Outstanding!

    @ibex485@ibex4852 жыл бұрын
  • First and foremost, happy birthday legend!

    @DontAskWhy868@DontAskWhy8682 жыл бұрын
  • Hats off for creating this video. I've been playing this game for years now and I thought I knew basically everything there is to know about how cars function in this game, but there were so many aspects in this video which absolutely baffled me, especially the X-80 handling different depending on which side of the map you're driving on. Regarding the Itali RSX my theorie is that Rockstar orignally planned on putting it in the supers class since in its non-broken forms it would sit at the top of supers. Aside from that it also looks like a supercar and has the price of a supercar being one of the most expensive cars in the game with and without the trade price. I guess they knew the car would be broken and instead of going trough the "effort" of fixing the car, they've just smacked it in sports. Sounds like a classic Rockstar thing to do.

    @lawnmower620@lawnmower6202 жыл бұрын
  • Incredible work Broughy! The X80 Proto and RSX facts were absolutely mind blowing.

    @Voskaridis@Voskaridis2 жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting video Broughy, really glad you made this video because it answers a lot of questions about most of these cars I've had for years but never found a proper explanation. I'd like to think that Rockstar would fix issues like the X80's broken downforce to be fixed in E&E, but it's Rockstar...

    @RuggeD_@RuggeD_2 жыл бұрын
  • These are great findings from the boys over at NoDo. Watching the X80 turn on the spot while gaining and losing grip precisely on the half-way line is the most baffling GTA fun-fact I've seen this year. It makes me want to go back through the archives and watch back every X80 Proto race I've ever done to see whether I can pick up on it haha.

    @Cirrus5005@Cirrus50052 жыл бұрын
  • Great work Brough, more evidence (not that we really needed more) that Rockstar have no single, overarching vision or goal for this game. They create something new, release it, forget all about it and then begin the cycle again. They ignore what's come before (and why certain decisions were made) and just keep pumping out content.

    @adamtaylor7150@adamtaylor71502 жыл бұрын
  • Incredible work! Even though I’m just a casual player, I love your videos and this is incredibly informative. Although now I think it would be nice to see some more adder races :)

    @Gamblinoe@Gamblinoe2 жыл бұрын
  • this is pure scientific research. Impressive. Rockstar should hire you for testing. They literally has no idea what their car looks like in real-game use.

    @hilltan2611@hilltan26112 жыл бұрын
  • Damn. X-80 info just sounds so ridiculous. Being dev myself (not a gamedev tho), it is still hard to imagine, how this was even programmed. Good job, Broughy!

    @sstasbelov@sstasbelov2 жыл бұрын
  • The X80 had me laugh so hard. How did any dev at R* mess this up so hard? 😂

    @droidfloid@droidfloid2 жыл бұрын
  • I always thought the X80 Proto felt like a boat, now I know why.

    @MDelorean@MDelorean2 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, super interesting video, thanks for posting this! Also lol about the broken-ness of the the X80🤣

    @enjoiThePain@enjoiThePain2 жыл бұрын
  • I decided to check this video for some fun and man was I in for a treat. X80 aero mechanism in this game is truly broken and Rockstar probably scrapped the idea of cars with active flaps in the future like other commentators said. Great informative video!

    @ReVDeatH@ReVDeatH2 жыл бұрын
  • The X80 thing is hilarious. I'm almost happy there are bugs like these, because they're funny... except that then I remember R* 'fixed' the tuner low grip 'exploit'... because it was fun? It's funny because GTA isn't a racing game but for some reason it's just so fun to race/drive in it.

    @fodaseocanal@fodaseocanal2 жыл бұрын
  • Informative as always, tweaked quite a few of my cars as close to perfection as possible thanks to your videos.

    @Quyzbuk86@Quyzbuk862 жыл бұрын
  • the x80 bug has to be one of the funniest most absurd bugs in gaming history

    @adindrecaj@adindrecaj Жыл бұрын
  • I love this. When i bought the RSX I've always felt like this car has something odd about it, it goes so fast but i feel like it's not performing well at some points. Now i know why. Thank you for such a great video.

    @atnguyenquy1331@atnguyenquy13312 жыл бұрын
  • This video is so dense, and full of knowledgeable info. Great work!

    @sadboyz1132@sadboyz11322 жыл бұрын
  • 16:18 I f*cking lost it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    @australovenatortomino_1741@australovenatortomino_17412 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely mind blowing. Fantastic work as always Broughy & thank you for the info.

    @burgnutt8378@burgnutt83782 жыл бұрын
  • What a weird and crazy game. Great video. We need some X80 tracks across the map that make you experience all the different grip levels. 😂

    @Kelemeth@Kelemeth2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for all the hard work Brough!

    @mrpapasquats8023@mrpapasquats80232 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video Broughy as always. Many thanks for the upload mate 👍👍👍👍👍

    @xracer5995@xracer59952 жыл бұрын
  • That info about the X80 blew my mind! Never imagined something like map location would be a factor. I’d really like to know how that was figured out too. I loved driving that car but next time I go on I’m going to be thinking really differently when driving it XD

    @DV8Rx@DV8Rx2 жыл бұрын
  • I didn't think it was possible, but Rockstar's incompetence has once again surprised me.

    @dunc_n_fr@dunc_n_fr2 жыл бұрын
  • a shame about the S2s they look great but have really subpar performance. and the X80 bug is hillarious and sad

    @M0torsagmannen@M0torsagmannen2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video! I couldn't agree more with the comment about newer cars being too easy to drive and ruining the competitiveness of others cars in class. The Club, Emerus, and whatever the current muscle class meta is. I used to always make sure that I owned at least one best in class vehicle, but I just don't like some of the newer cars so I haven't bought some of them. But if I turn up to a race with a car that I actually enjoy driving, then it's not even close to fun with some of the cars that I'd be up against. Probably why I don't bother racing anymore.

    @Moreton2@Moreton22 жыл бұрын
    • That's why me and the people I race with use random cars every race so we don't have to worry about racing the fastest car every race and we get to use a lot of cars that normally don't get used in races. Most people automatically pick the fastest car and it gets old quick

      @BadBusiness.357@BadBusiness.3572 жыл бұрын
    • @@BadBusiness.357 how do you get people to use random cars? Is that a PC thing? I'm on Xbox and I've not seen a setting that gives people random cars.

      @Moreton2@Moreton22 жыл бұрын
    • @@Moreton2 no I'm on PS4. Just tell them to press the touch pad at the vehicle selection screen until the first custom car shows up. I race with a lot of the same people in a chat group and that's our rule for the playlist. It sucks when people only use the top cars every race.

      @BadBusiness.357@BadBusiness.3572 жыл бұрын
  • Gotta admit, I watched it now. And have to give you that it's probably one of the best out there. Not only from you, but also on GTA V as a whole!

    @17Uhr23@17Uhr232 жыл бұрын
    • :)

      @broughy1322@broughy13222 жыл бұрын
  • brilliantly researched video! the X80 is just shocking! but i highly doubt Rockstar is going to spend the time to fix that one since its a forgotten car at this point.

    @Veyronp87@Veyronp87 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks a lot Adam, Chilli, Nismo and Broughy for all the work leading to this video. Can't imagine the number of hours it took to figure out all the information shown here. Some cars also have weird behaviours on jumps and the downforce modifier might have a say on those. Just as an example, on Vicious Spiral (Rockstar Stunt Track), there's a vertical fall halfway through the track and for some reason, the Krieger falls much faster than the Deveste Eight to reach the platform at the bottom.

    @Jedz999@Jedz9992 жыл бұрын
    • could also have something to do with the cars drag value maybe? you could try if a tezeract falls faster than a krieger when jumping at the same time. if it does, it's most likely the drag.

      @mr_obst3077@mr_obst30772 жыл бұрын
    • And then there's the Tezeract that likes to "float" on those jumps

      @pedinhuh16@pedinhuh162 жыл бұрын
    • @@mr_obst3077 can you please explain the meaning of "drag" in this context for a non-english speaker?

      @NikkOcello17@NikkOcello172 жыл бұрын
    • @@NikkOcello17 it's a number in the cars handling files. The way cars drive in the game is determined by a set of those numbers each car has. For example they all have a number for engine power, a number for how many gears the car has etc. In real life drag is how much the air slows down the car. A car with a lot of drag (imagine a mercedes G wagon) gets slowed down a lot by the air, it has to work really hard to push through it. A car with low drag cuts through the air easily and doesn't really get slowed down by it. The game simulates this in a way. The lower the cars drag number is in the game, the better. The tezeract for example has a really low one. It doesn't need much engine power and can still go fast. Cars with a big drag number need more engine power to go the same speed. I hope this makes sense.

      @mr_obst3077@mr_obst30772 жыл бұрын
    • Some cars are programmed to have higher gravity (it's a handling flag). That may be the case with the Krieger

      @Johnny362000@Johnny3620002 жыл бұрын
  • Such a great video! The X80 is my most favorite car to race in supers, but that bug is insane and hilarious 🤪😄

    @AlexaRex@AlexaRex Жыл бұрын
  • This was an amazing and fun video. Top job, Brough.

    @Frank_West@Frank_West2 жыл бұрын
  • Overriden left and right variables for the x80 wing is quite hilarious

    @guillaumebarrier7486@guillaumebarrier74862 жыл бұрын
  • been waiting for this since you mentioned it yesterday

    @yes_lad@yes_lad2 жыл бұрын
  • Flawless! Thanks for the dive into the downforce system. I personally enjoy the standard dynamic downforce system more, 'cuz mixed properly with the base wheel grip provides a good set of combinations to have interesting cars. Higher grip at top speed, or good overall grip with not much top speed grip gain, a good balance of both, etc.

    @Eddlm_v2@Eddlm_v22 жыл бұрын
  • that transition from the s2 Cabrio to the itali RSX tho

    @mach_@mach_2 жыл бұрын
  • That was an eye opener. It's crazy to see how much GTA had developed it's cars since the old days, for better or worse

    @the-boring-car-guy@the-boring-car-guy2 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Broughy, this was a very informative video and I like to come back to it every once in a while. I wish you did a few laps with the x80 without the bugged spoiler, especially since it gets hit hard by Cutting Coroners GP. It even gets screwed by the final corner because it crosses the middle-line of the map. On another note, if you find it worth the effort, you could make a lap times video called “potential performance” where to remove the glitches and handling flags from all cars effected to see what they’re capable of.

    @dust133@dust133 Жыл бұрын
  • Really great video. I hope we get some better mechanics in the next gta.

    @schlueperbiene6250@schlueperbiene62502 жыл бұрын
  • The X80 explanation doesn't even surprise me. But how weird it had to be coded to react like this. It's like that [IRL] vortex effect of water going down the plug-hole depending on where you are in the world, depends on how it spirals clockwise or counter-clockwise.

    @TimmyXaero@TimmyXaero2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video brough, keep it up

    @sonny97gaming@sonny97gaming2 жыл бұрын
  • As a Porsche Fan, this hurts. First the shit that's happening with the revs, now the spoilers ✌😪

    @floriankulig6929@floriankulig69292 жыл бұрын
  • Great work broughy!!!

    @jdx4174@jdx41742 жыл бұрын
  • On more casual areas of the GTA community, people actually complain when the cars handle like the muscle cars or Adder, and want them to handle like the open wheelers, or else they say "it's got no grip" as it turns a 90° corner at 98mph

    @christiantaylor1495@christiantaylor14952 жыл бұрын
  • Yes but, how does the X80 drive on Cayo Perico? It will implode I imagine.

    @gtdriver2416@gtdriver24162 жыл бұрын
    • 🤔 Interesting question

      @phrodendekia@phrodendekia2 жыл бұрын
    • Lol! I assume it's just on one side of the map as Cayo Perico is sort of 'semi' on the actual map like north Yankton?

      @ole7762@ole77622 жыл бұрын
    • kek pepega is in the bottom right under north yankton

      @oleg_aka_djmeg@oleg_aka_djmeg2 жыл бұрын
    • @@oleg_aka_djmeg nice seeing you here, Oleg. But yes, it's far down and right on the map, everyone. The x80 probably would have issues turning right on Cayo.

      @lxik2677@lxik26772 жыл бұрын
  • Love the video. So informative. That is why the Tulip is forever my favourite. Beautiful and challenging. The reward of driving it perfectly is priceless. I still drive the Zentorno a lot also. Love the OG king.

    @josiebaldwin4359@josiebaldwin43592 жыл бұрын
  • Great video this! The X80 was a real kick to hear about!

    @MrMegaMario64@MrMegaMario642 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for this this must of took you a lot of time , THanks B

    @pauley7256@pauley72562 жыл бұрын
  • Nice work on the video man.

    @MattBaileyCreates@MattBaileyCreates2 жыл бұрын
  • thank you very much for keeping us informed =)

    @_m.a.y.o_@_m.a.y.o_2 жыл бұрын
  • Most of us have heard of altitude affecting the performance of a vehicle irl. 16:18 Broughy: Let me introduce you to Eeastern and Western hemispheres. Me: * shocked Pikachu face * This explains so much... GGs to all involved with the research.

    @elshelbarino@elshelbarino2 жыл бұрын
  • Yes! Thank you Broughy ✌️

    @chillenlikeavillain@chillenlikeavillain2 жыл бұрын
  • Such a shame for the Comet S2s...you can rly feel the potential in them to compete against the Comet SR or the top of the Tuners subclass. The Itali RSX should've been in the Supers class imo, especially if it is to be fixed. The looks of this car alone suits the said class much better.

    @NatureXwars@NatureXwars2 жыл бұрын
  • Looking back on that 30 different supercars race you did and that the X80 Proto won that makes it more impressive for the driver

    @brandtconners7858@brandtconners78582 жыл бұрын
  • Incredible work. Thank you for being that kind of nerd. We need those.

    @yank31@yank312 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative video! Thx Bruff:)

    @evinco6954@evinco69542 жыл бұрын
  • I knew there was something off about the x80 proto. Sometimes it handles great and other times it's sliding all over the place around corners

    @BadBusiness.357@BadBusiness.3572 жыл бұрын
  • Wow. Now it makes sense why the X80 can sometimes take sharp turns, and sometimes not. Interesting. I wonder if it can ever be fixed.

    @derekg7853@derekg78532 жыл бұрын
  • You have to remember that we're still beta testing this game made by an indie developer, that doesn't have the financial capabilities to find or fix most of the bugs in their game.

    @jeffreyschumi@jeffreyschumi2 жыл бұрын
  • I want to see all cars get higher top speeds!

    @evinco6954@evinco69542 жыл бұрын
  • Incredible research, insight, analysis and communication thereof!

    @Demasx@Demasx2 жыл бұрын
  • Always very informative and thorough. Thank you sir 👑

    @travisspaulding5835@travisspaulding58352 жыл бұрын
  • quality work, thanks broughy

    @tunercars101@tunercars1012 жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Gg Adam, Chilli and Nismo. 👍🏼

    @PurpleHazeYT@PurpleHazeYT2 жыл бұрын
  • That X80 situation made me crack a laugh, that's amazing

    @boltstriker7736@boltstriker77362 жыл бұрын
  • hey great video!

    @MrMirofl@MrMirofl2 жыл бұрын
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