Just Burn the Money: China's Failed Megaprojects
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Time magazine sucks, they are shallow and stupid too.
Very interesting. The question I have is this, are these failed projects the exceptions to the rule or indicative of the rule itself?
@@jaydee6268 Oh they are very indicative of the rule itself. The CCP are all about face and looking like what they actually are not. They whine about the West always, yet consistently mimic it's achievements and plagiarise it's tech constantly. Then there's the added problem of so many of their buildings and products being woefully substandard tofu-dregs projects, which the Chinese people themselves are disgusted with and increasingly criticise the government for. The people can own their own property, but can not own the land it's built on. This means the CCP can and will re-zone that land on a whim and have the property torn down, with no legal recourse.
Actually China is not alone, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan also built their own islands with massive runways just that the MSM didn't want to report.
Unfortunately, this appears to be the USA only.
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How does this comment only have a hundred some likes, and the one saying oh bother didn't have any until I liked it....
That the islands are sinking is funny because they were described as: "Unsinkable aircraft carriers."
That is a good point!
Titanic was also described as "unsinkable" more than century ago. Look where in ended up in.
China has automachinery process to expand island size within a couple of weeks, similar as Chinese auto robotic seaports, 24 /7 loading and unloading cargos without dock workers. these technologies are very interesting, hopefully this channel can make videos to explain.
a few years ago, I watched a video of how Chinese ships expand the island size within 2 weeks. after that, an airport was built within 2 months.
@@serriajohnUnderwater airport, nice idea.
I retired after 40 years in commercial and residential maintenance. My experience has been that a structure not occupied can sometimes deteriorate faster than one that is. I know that sounds strange but, 40 yrs of repairing buildings has showed me this.
Minor issues unnoticed and unreported become major issues fast. Water line bursts without notice for a day on an upper floor for example.
You're right. Even built up dust and grit starts to stain and wear the paint.
100% - because people close the doors and windows, keep the pests out and generally get out in front of problems when they occur. If a beam falls down in a building no one has been in for a decade, odds on the next one is coming down before anyone notices.
people living inside a house will constantly spend money to fix house problems, while the empty house won't get maintenance.
Used buildinds are usually dry and warm, not rotting and rusting.
1:05 - Chapter 1 - Transit elevated bus 1:40 - Mid roll ads 3:00 - Back to the video 5:55 - Chapter 2 - Duplitecture ghost cities 8:25 - Chapter 3 - 1 belt, 1 road 11:25 - Chapter 4 - Goldin finance 117
*more of the same with a diff name, this guy is too greedy*
It's almost like trains can do everything the first thing does but better
Isn't it funny that some people want to re-invent decade-old inventions? Like Elon Musk inventing the subway anew and calls it hyperloop.
There is something in Germany which in a way is similar to the first idea, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuppertal_Schwebebahn. This system is unique in Germany. It does work there, because Wuppertal is a city (several towns grown together) located in a very narrow valley. It does not make sense anywhere else.
@@kamukameh That one at least theoretically could go far faster than the fastest modern trains due to having no air resistance in the tunnel... even if its' realistically incredibly expensive and would require tunnels built miles underground through solid rock to make keeping an area that big in vacuum practical. I can't say the same for the glorified trolley-on-stilts in question here.
Even just giving standard buses a pair of lanes dedicated only to them would be a dramatic improvement
@@SnowmanTF2this has been done in Toronto and the buses are still as unreliable, all it's done is made traffic worse by reducing the usable road space for cars
The last time I was in Tianjin in 2016 I remember looking at Goldin Finance from a distance. The other super-tall buildings in Tianjin are not near it; it stands alone, surrounded by shorter buildings, maybe only 20-30 stories tall that look like dwarves. It is crazy big, and obvious. The fact that it may sit there incomplete indefinitely makes it the world's biggest "sore thumb".
Let me tell you what is a sore thumb. The Twin Towers were sore thumbs and hence the jihadists had to bring it down. Not bad as they also taught many people working there how to dive without parachutes. Just should have informed them that the Olympics is not due for another 3 years. NO point learning how to dive too early. One must pace oneself when training.
@hangtuah888 Let me tell you what is a sore thumb. Nanjing was a sore thumb and hence the Japanese had to bring it down. Not bad as they also taught many people living there how to run from bayonets and bullets. Just should have informed them that the Olympics is not due for another 3 years. NO point learning how to run a marathon too early. One must pace oneself when training. :face-purple-crying::face-purple-crying::face-purple-crying:
These things are nearly impossible to tear down safely. It will be irreparably uninhabitable soon (if it isn't already). It'll just stand there until it falls by itself.
@@justinsanchez3286fyi you are barking at wrong tree. Hangtuah like in user name is a malay sea hero, but as usual hero with tragic ending, the usual like betrayal, has to kill his best friend etc. that hangtuah guy is likely a malay or malay fanboy. most likely moslem that hate that they are not world superpower anymore like the kaliph time.
If you look up the skyline of Pyongyang, North Korea, you'll see a giant tower, well, towering over the rest. What you're looking at is an unfinished hotel the Ryugyong Hotel standing at 330m tall it's unique neo futurist aesthetic stands out like a sore thumb. Construction started in 1982 and it reached it's final height in 1992, but the exterior wasn't completed until 2011 in the time between 1992 and 2011 the building was photoshopped out of official photos taken by the DPRK of it's capital, an unfinished building showcasing the true state of the DPRK. Uncertain if they still do, but it's uninhabited to this day, or at the very least doesn't function as a hotel. I mean they hid the building from view as best they could for a decade at least, who knows if they crammed something else in there.
Dams are known to be environmentally damaging, but it's rare for the damage to be visible so quickly. Also, the lack of sediment in the water implies that all the old sediment is building up behind the dam. I wonder if that will break it even more in the future.
Was thinking the very same thing, sediment build up is a problem on all dams but it seems it's much worse on this one
I'm amazed the TEB made it as far as it did. I'm not at all surprised the idea was suggested, as someone with an engineering degree, I can say this is exactly the kind of idea that will get engineers excitedly drawing up sketches and starting a preliminary feasibility study (which is to say: thinking about it and maybe writing a draft proposal in their heads) But...that's where it ends. Height minimums and maximums are a pretty obvious problem to anyone who has looked at traffic for 5 minutes. Weight tolerances are going to be an issue for anyone who knows anything about vehicle design, and the relationship between the distance between wheels and turning radius is somewhat variable depending on specific design, but the general issue of a wide wheelbase meaning a wide turning radius is pretty obvious. This should be a really fascinating half-written proposal in some engineer's recycle bin. This should not be a thing that made it to prototyping.
I very much agree with you! I do not see how this would have any advantages of an up-above grade light rail system - it will be more mechanically complex, plus the traffic below can get into accidents that will take out the TEB. The TEB takes all the disadvantage of an up-above grade light rail system (cost) AND an on-grade LRT (traffic accidents can disable the tracks).
To be fair we thought it up in the 60's in the US but it never got past the drawing board for a good reason.
yeah, such things can work when implemented in the initial design of a city's infrastructure (basically fitting roadways under the bus lanes), not retrofitted into an existing city. And even then it's doubtful that it'll turn out to be practical in operation, but at least some of the drawbacks can be compensated for.
The turning radius problem could be solved by having the tracks meet at right angles. When the vehicle is ready to change tracks the passengers could exit the vehicle and using heavy reinforced sticks move the thing over to the other track. Problem solved.
@@jwenting I mean...the way you do elevated rail transit in a city, pre-existing or planned development, is to do what Vancouver does with SkyTrain: just build an elevated rail line that's not bound strictly to the street network. Means you can't have traffic knock out the rails in a bad accident, you have the weight borne by a static elevated rail system rather than a monstrous vehicle that has to accelerate and stop, you can route the rail such that it can turn in the radius of a rail vehicle (ie: not as tight as your average car), etc. Or you do short on road trolleys/streetcars like they did everywhere in the early 20th century and still do in the places that weren't dumb enough to rip them out in exchange for more car space.
The company i used to work for had a building built in China and the builders were baffled by the American way. They couldn't understand that we wanted the building to last more than 5 years. I just wonder how long it will be before everything comes tumbling down.
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its so funny so see those silly guy laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Big Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
@@Ivan-bg1jpThat story sounds perfectly plausible to me.
Yes I’m sure everyone would be baffled by American infrastructure
Chinese way is to make a quick buck, without quality control.
The elevated bus project was really stupid considering metros are a much more practical way of transporting thousands of people without being hindered by traffic. Not to mention China was already building dozens of metro systems at the time, so the project seems kinda pointless - good thing they never really considered it seriously.
u never heard of BRT systems did u? they widely exist in many cities and countries, elevate it is just one way of running such system...😅😅😅
I don't think it's that stupid because building a tunnel system is quite dificult and expensive in a populated area. It can be impossible to do in an area that has a lot of underground aquafiers or is prone to flooding.
Kind just looks like a stupid looking and overly expensive train.
@@stuart4341then run a trolley in a protected lane.
@@henrihns2659BRTs are just worse versions of trolleys.
The sheer waste of construction resources in China is astonishing. Building things not because someone needs it, but because thats the rules or to use it as "investment objects".
And yet so many people live in squalor. All the waste is so shameful
One Belt initiative: We loan you the money, to pay us, to build something in your territory, that belongs to us. Also you have to pay back the loan. Basically you pay them twice, for something they own in the end. And if you fail to pay them back they will take all natural resources the land has until the debt is paid.
Sadly our absolute doofus of a president is trying to get some Chinese “aid” over here in Honduras even tough we have a history of accepting those sorts of horrid deals that leave us with stupid quantities of debt and devalue our coin aswell as making the government look like a bunch of morons
Sounds like a deal when the alternative is: live without any commerce for your whole country that isn't foreign aid.
@@deathdog1392If they weren't ridiculously corrupt they could build something themselves
@@deathdog1392 ah yes, the "I'd rather bankrupt my entire family by borrowing from an infamous loan shark, than not have money to buy a tv" argument
@@deathdog1392 , found the 50-cent army troll.
I watch a lot of videos about failed Chinese engineering and new cities. Even when they try to force people and businesses to move to reduce crowding and build up an area, it usually fails because the infrastructure isn't there. It's amazing to see how much money the Chinese waste and how much corruption there is in the building industries.
Government projects is a wildly unsuccessful strategy in any country. People never learn.
@@DouglasLippilmfaooo to equivocate all government projects with a complete centralized economy is economically ignorant. Everyone knows there is no black and white, countries live in shades of economies. IE a complete free market would not be better than out current mixed economy.
But but but, building stuff makes GDP
@@DouglasLippinot true, most of those empty chinese cities are now being populated. That’s what happens when a government takes pro-active measures for its citizens. Western people and governments are to focused on short term gains and don’t ever think about the future unlike China.
Obviously you have never been to China.
The dam in Ecuador is also sitting next to a highly active volcano, Reventador. Most eruptions are small but should there be a repeat of larger eruptions and if the structure is truly vulnerable, volcanic lahars may destroy the dam.
I would imagine the shaking that would occur would be a contributing factor.
Plus the silts and rubbish upstream regularly clog up the reservoir and the sluice gates.
In my country Reventador mean BIG firecracker. That dam is gonna have a helluva time coming.
I thought Reventador is a Filipino word- a type of fire cracker in our country.
That would have been a reason not to build it.
The elevated bus assumes it will never have an accident and have to stop. And even more traffic jams.
Still in disbelief of a video I saw of a ghost Chinese city, removing a road grate for water runoff revealed gravel and no piping. Holy moly.
The best is when they hook up to a Fire Riser to get water to combat a fire high up in a building, nah the pipe isn't connected to anything xD
aint nobody got time for drainage.
@@briankale5977 also the fake aboveground fire hydrants not connected to anything. lmfao its all smoke and mirrors like north korea's fruit stalls
China: A country-sized version of what happens when a high school dropout wins the lottery
Or becomes an internet scammer.
China trying too hard to prove to the world(especially the US) that they have arrived and are "innovative".
When everyone in the government and economy is a grab-hag, not just the old ladies stealing paper towels from the bathroom.
China is actually investing in its future and that boggles the western capitalist, short sighted mind. Not everything is gonna work but at least they do stuff and don’t just pretend to care.
The audacity, LOL, they hv more IQ than u. Chill
Tofu is not a building material.
Well, it shouldn’t be.
tofu is a great building block... of an awesome dish with ground pork and spicy sauce. maybe some shrimp if you want. As something to build infrastructure with? are you the CCP?
China could have fooled me
China is *BEGINNING* to realize that, I believe, though there are NO refunds of projects which don't perform up to the expectations the Chinese salesforce have raised.
In China it isn't
"Duplitecture" sounds less like a portmanteau of duplicate and architecture, and more like a portmanteau of duplicitous and architecture.
It would be interesting to hear archaeologists of the future explain China's ghost cities.
Stfu if u hv no idea abt those cities. LOL😂😂
Well considering archaeologists today come up with a story to explain why a 12th century nobleman is non-binary. It would probably be an interesting story by archaeologists in the future.
Archaeologist "What ghost cities? oh you mean that conspicuous piles of rubble you find all over China? we honestly just thought they were dumping sites"
It would be interesting t to hear psychologists of the present explain the Westerners" need to diminish China's successes.
@@alexlazar4738 It's a textbook case of "narcissistic projection" aka diminishing the achievements of others in order to feel superior.
The amount of wasted money on these “tofu dreg” projects is astounding! That’s just one aspect ..I’m shaking my head on all the natural resources and pollution it created is on another level indeed! Crazy.
Look at it on the bright side. If they had not wasted so much money on the tofu, they would have had even more money to spend on preparations to threaten or invade neighboring countries.
The skies don’t lie.
@@erahstenirev8141yeah they should be more like America, spending all that money on the military while infrastructure at home is collapsing every day.
@@edwardbateman3094 The CCP likely spends an equal amount on their military expenditures.
@@edwardbateman3094 those are both things that are happening in china
I could listen to Simon talk about "Chiner" all day
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It's always fun to see those flashy transport projects trying to fix issues we had solutions for decades before. Like you know ... trains, trams, busses, metro...
Last month I transited through Shanghai Pudong Airport. That thing is crazy gigantic and doesn’t even make it onto Chinese megaproject lists. Miles of vast corridors whose floors and walls are all paved in shiny granite. 552 departure gates. A transit area that I couldn’t see the end of. Multiple terminals connected by a full-sized underground train. And the entire airport was pretty much empty - both times I transited through at two different times of the day. I Googled how much it all had cost - $49.8 billion!!! China is on another level of government spending on these insane projects.
Indeed! It took me 30 mins to reach the boarding gate after taking an internal train for a domestic flight, I nearly missed my flight...have you checked world's largest airport in Beijing, Daxing airport, it is much bigger than Pudong airport and had been constructed within only 5 years while it had taken more than 12 years for Germans to complete the much smaller new airport in Berlin.
Correction to your figure...it cost $1.67 billion (NOT $49.8 billion) for build Shanghai's Pudong Airport within 2 years and $17 billion for building Daxing airport in Beijing within 5 years.
And usa defense budget corruption over 1 trillion dollars
Is daxing bigger? I used it once and it seemed smaller than Beijing international with it's 3 terminals compared to daxing's one
@@icebaby6714 为什么要给他们更新信息？他们活在自己的茧房里不好吗
I first heard about the duplicate uninhabited cities in a comic book I read. I assumed that they were a wacky comic book idea.
CCP brainwashed their citizens to hate foreigners but have no qualms copying foreign cities🤣🤣🤣🤣
I saw a recent video about the Paris duplicated city in "Yes Theory" channel. Although the city still got a lot vacant houses, but far away from uninhabited... it look uninhabited in the day, but not at night.
It is to artificially increase the chinese GDP.
No, it's to keep money inside China. Now Chinese people can visit Paris without spending any money in France. It's a smart move imo.
If anything these projects encourage people to go see the real things. My wife and I went to Macau because she wanted to see the fake Venice canals. When we went there she immediately said, "I hope we can go see the real ones next year." All of my Chinese friends and co workers talk about how cool this stuff is and they go and immediately say,"I can't wait to see the real thing," until they stop going. Then people go to the real cities and talk about how inferior the duplicate ones are.
that shot of the eiffel tower as got so much polution that you can hardly see the tower..
The haze from the air pollution is supposed to add a romantic feel to the place. The CCP Handbook of Making Revolutionary and Patriotic Style of Love says so. 🤣
The skies have it.... their propaganda tries to hide it, but the air is so bad for so often that pollution is still obvious.
08:08 It's much worse than that. According to former deputy head of China’s statistics bureau He Keng, there are enough empty apartments built in China by now to house between 1.4 and 3 billion people. Edit: fixed a grammatical error.
last i heard it was leaning toward the 3 billion empty houses mark. gotta love the fact that, despite there being so many houses, only one or two percent of them are actually livable due to the fact that many dont have basic plumbing, electricity, or any sort of access to food
@@theangryotaku3361 I guess people just believe anything these days... any idea what 3 billion homes would look like ? 2 times more empty homes than occupied.... but hey... sound funny... so why not believe it.
@@theangryotaku3361 Good grief... 😮 This is a good example of what happens when an autocratic authoritarian government gets a fantasy ego project in its collective mind and there are no checks and balances to stop it.
Thanks always wondered growing up what happened to that bus/train /car crusher .
It’s going to be interesting to see if those nuclear reactors will employ standard Chinese building practices.
Yes, what about Three Mile Island? Is it best practice construction in nuclear power station. I am old enough to consider the emergency brought about by its over hearing.
@@hangtuah888 What are you talking about? I don't know what you're saying at all.
@@mitsunekolucky671 Another poorly educated and also low IQ. You cannot understand the message and you blamed the messenger. Don't worry I have a cure tailored for such attributes. It is also known as hara kiri. It works every time I am told. You have a choice of jumping off a building or drowning is a cesspool. Either method it is fine as it does the job.
@@mitsunekolucky671It's the old whataboutism, this one dates back to Chernobyl Incident, where every query into Chernobyl is countered with what about 3 mile
@@hansbass8119 Yep, I kinda got the gist of it. His english did give me a headache trying to understand properly
In July 2017, 32 people involved into the TEB project were detained by Chinese authorities on suspicion of investment fraud.
Honestly...its not suprising. Corruption or not...that isea was flat stupid
The thing with a lot of ghost cities and half finished skyscrapers is the buyers aren't rich. They're people using their savings, the savings of parents, siblings, aunts and uncles all to buy an apartment in the hope of reselling it down the line. They're by and large investment properties and it's usually done on the hope of something being built or moving to the city to draw people in and spike housing costs for a profitable resale. Of course people buy the apartments and they're not always done and people have to start paying instantly instead of when the project is finished so there's a lot of people who had to move into half finished apartments that lack power, water, elevators, half the building, etc. If a building company goes under for whatever reason home buyers are stuck with half finished or nonexistent homes with cratering value. That's not even mentioning how badly some builders cut corners on these projects or how some buildings after 3 years are in a worse state than a 30 year old building.
China have overlooked one little point with their megaprojects -- ongoing maintenance!
Chinese designers : "Maintenance is needed???"
There is no such thing as preventive maintenance in chinese industry. Preventive maintenance is just an anti-revolutionary idea from the dirty capitalist west.🤣 Even chairman Mao doesn't do dental maintenance. He just gargle with warm tea. Mao said "Why should I brush my teeth? Look at the tiger, it doesn't brush it's fangs and they are still sharp and deadly." Too bad chairman Mao isn't a tiger and all of Mao's teeth eventually became stained black. Just look at some of his rare photographs. Such is the "wisdom" of the great chairman Mao😄 🤣
When Simon started to present TEb my first idea was "elevated transport...on FIXED route...to not compete with cars, where did i heard something like that" - right, trains on elevated ramps in Chicago, for example?
Don't forget the shoddy construction and quality of cement. Which is poor. To save costs, little things like rebar are optional.
Sometimes they use empty bottles as wall fillers to save rebars, sand, gravel, cement and labor costs. It's a nice trick until Mr. Big Earthquake comes to visit. 🤣
@@pbxn-3rdx-85percentor styrofoam
Areas they clain to of turned green is just sprayed green, they even place sticks into the ground with balls on top painted green to look like plants from space. The Chinese have the saying if tofu dreg for many buildings including hotels, roads and tunnels. Where steel bars are as soft as toffee and the concrete is like talc. Yes they can build their buildings quickly, but will not last long before serious faults are found. A tunnel iver the past year or so flooded trapping all the motorists stuck inside,bkilling hundreds of Chinese citizens. But the authorities only addmitted to around twenty. Your Chinese manufactured goods don't expect them too last long as they cut corners where ever possible.
Went to China and traveled by train. I wondered about the empty cities we passed by- it was really weird.
Yes but look at the highly efficient train system to travel between these empty cities!
Yes Theory already disprove your claims
@@johnnyw6467Chong in denial. Wumao kek
maybe next time try to go to those empty cities, i hope one day you can make some videos about those empty cities in china to show us the reality, how bad is these ghost town thing❤
@@henrihns2659 Yes Theory alrdy made that video. Maybe next time try to afford a plane ticket to go there and see for yourself. You don't even know their culture and you talk about reality? Each family household always buy 2-3 homes for future generation. Certainly it is empty at the start but it already populated.
The advantage of the CCP is that no one complains so the governments still looks good despite the failures.
China has this thing about not understanding base structure. They CONSTANTLY fail building, well just about everything in cities because they never get the base structure correct. They fail to get proper drainage in place and water wears away at these base structures which then fall apart, including roads right next to tall buildings and you find out ground water is removing the earth around these buildings. Scary really. There are videos galore of cars and trucks falling into holes that opened up right in front of them or collapsed under the weight of a truck. And THEN you look closely and you wonder where the rebar went to. Oh, it was never there. Is that why the road fell open so easily?
its so funny so see those clowns laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
I hope they pay you enough for the amount of channels you voice over for, it's incredible
Us congress will pay them well, for countering "disinformation" lol
@@yzy8638 cope
pretty sure he owns all the channels, and does so to gain more subscribers overall, and generate a larger income
He could personally finance a Megaproject all on his own, don'tcha know!
I would love to live in a duplicate city if it was close to other duplicate cities. Like living in epcot
So would I! Or maybe one city with distinct “duplicates” within it. Sort of like New York City has Manhattan, Brooklyn, etc, but one borough would be “Paris,” one “London,” etc. I’d also want a certain amount of infrastructure-and decent population numbers are required to justify the costs of operating a water treatment plant, an elementary school, a hospital close enough to reach quickly in an emergency, etc. It would take careful planning to get both the infrastructure and the population level in place at the same time.
What person in their right mind would trust the integrity of a structure built so fast by a country renowned for their lack of quality control?
Oohhh! Look! Shiny!
Government officials who receive the little red envelopes full of cash from the Chinese to approve such projects. One interesting side note, all the Ecuadorian government officials involved in the deal on the dam have been convicted of corruptions.
There is no such thing as preventive maintenance in chinese industry. Preventive maintenance is just an anti-revolutionary idea from the dirty capitalist west.🤣
except the former president@@didierduplantier8359
just their steel quality i have seen hundreds of times in such different applications... so much garbage. Id hate to think how unsafe their real road . construction and industry death tolls are
I have never heard the term "duplitecture" but I did know that there is a copy on the mountain town/region that I live in: Jackson Wyoming. I heard about it when I first moved here, I had no idea that they did other places too.
this bus could work if you design a whole new city around it ... but at this point it would be cheaper to just build a underground train system ...
Who else kept hearing "Coca Cola Dam'? That sounds like one tasty reservoir.
this is what happens when NO ONE is allowed to criticise that dumb ideas are dumb
Yet you spent trillions on war and destroying other countries. I don't see anybody listening
"dumb ideas" that produced the nicest and most modern cities , with the best infrasture in the world . LOLOL cope harder bro. You could only dream of living in such a high tech modern country as China.
It did, as the author of the channel and you, make TWO criticisms. You are either dumb with the author of telling the truth. I, for one, can see the former as attributes of you and the author. Am I wrong???
@@hangtuah888 Was that English?
Oh wow, they let you on youtube in China? Have fun in chinese prison lmfao. @@hangtuah888
The TEB for all practical purposes was worse take on elevated trains; If you want elevated trains then just make elevated trains, while you need to build the infrastructure to support them you can just buy normal rolling stock for the trains which compared to a TEB or Monorail, normal rolling stock will be much cheaper because more of it is made & there's more demand for it, so the effects of economies scale can kick in along with standardization of parts
1:38 a straddling bus, I’ll have to call my stockbroker.😂😂😂😂😂😂 PS who’s gonna drive it?😂
So China tried to reinvent the elevated train by building a high bus? Have they never seen the nyc subway elevated trains?
It's the commie MO. The Soviets took 2 extra decades to build a jumbo jet with under-wing engines because it wasn't an original Soviet idea and it only happened because they found some pretzel logic to explain that, in fact, the Soviets did invent that configuration.
Man, if they really thought out some of these projects and focused on quality and engineering, imagine what they could do
The entire time I was watching the elevated bus segment, my brain was screaming: "Just build a damn train, already!"
thank you for doing this video. i've always been annoyed that many channels that cover this kind of content, never go back to highlight how shit the chinese projects become after just a couple of years. not until the problem becomes ENORMOUS that it's no longer ignorable. like back 15 or so years ago when everyone was talking about china being amazing building hundreds of thousands of high rise condo's a year. but nobody went back to talk about how half of them were crumbling after just a 3 years of construction finishing. people didn't go back to them until recently when the situation has gotten cataclysmic.
Those kind of content creators really don't care about quality control as long as they can farm views and likes.
This is probably partly due to China itself. They dont want the bad news getting out, just the impressive parts
Anti-china bots getting orgasm over -ve china videos.😂😂
China has been building houses for over 50 years, and every year 30% of these buildings collapsed. lol..people died for these faulty houses reaches 100 million, that is why tourists shall never enter this country, and all Hilton Hotels in China shall move out, because they compensated a billion dollars to people who lived there and died within a night, because hotels collapsed in a sudden.
I guess you have never been in China. Just go there, see for yourself and then offer your "expert" opinion.
3 gorges dam has his building defects. I wouldn't be suprised if 3 gorges' age will not surpass the recent Hooverdams age. Then again lake mead could run dry making the hooverdam obsolete
Disconnected from reality, this one.
Anti-china bots hv been dreaming abt its collapse since it started, unfortunately it has,'t collapsed yet.😂😂
@@soco13466 cutting corners, speeding up construction to meet deadlines on a project as massive as the tree gorges dam is playing with fire. The russians did that ones in a little town in Ukrain, look how that worked out for them. Lets hope i'm wrong and history doesnt repeat himself.
@@josvercaemer264 the three gorges could literally be made of dirt and it would still do its job of holding the water back. you don't know what a gravity dam is?
@@hughmungus2760 is more fun just to make up shit.
I remember a few years ago a friend was super amazed/fearful of all these big technological advancements being talked about by China and I explained that it's only talk; when I asked for any instance where the reporting continued beyond the media release of the prototyping they couldn't provide a single one. China wants the world to think X when the reality is Y. Been that way for a long while now and it almost, if not, always a trademark of any country that has a heavily curated local/global media presence.
Well just compare China's with USA's public transport like it is today... BTW "the world" ? Asian,Middle East and African countries not only think China's public transport is better but they also know it. Also the by China built public transport in other countries. Just enjoyed the Chinese underground/metro built here by China
I always wondered about that Elevated Bus Project. When I first read about it, I wondered if semis could fit under the train.
That 'elevated bus' was derived from an Arts Major concept drawing. Not an Engineer, so he failed to see the practical flaws.
Typical of airhead architects and designers who don't understand physics.
But, but their designers made the C919! 😂😁
Am I the only one who thinks Fallout's maglevs would be a great idea?
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn Yes, and there is a Reason those things called "Gadgetbahn" for them wile look more flashy but to be running all only on a properitary system, cost way more to run AND build than a normal Tram or Bus and with only a very handfull exceptions are getting replaced by a normal Tram or Bus after the End of Servicelife of the original fleet. And for Maglevs like in FO, there is diminishing return compared to normal railbound HST in traveltime compared to building an elevated Track with magnatic infrastructur and electricity costs of running those magnets and even if we go to "simple" dangling Trains, there is a reason that the world only has THREE of those and only because the landscape dictates that. sooo, you have no knowledge in archeology AND railway infrastructure?
You can't even trust chinese "engineers" if they are up to par with international standards of engineering education. The mining company my brother worked for ordered a big chinese made mill that was cheaper than mills from the old European companies. After the mill arrived and was assembled it didn't worked right. The chinese "engineering" team the chinese mill manufacturer sent worked for 3 months to make it work right. The chinese mill is running now but it needs 3 times more maintenance than their old European made mills. Meanwhile the mining company lost millions waiting for the chinese "engineers" to fix their "modern" machine. They should have bought mills from the old and trusted European equipment companies and saved money.
We now know that the Astronaut in Planet of the Apes was probably in China when he saw the statue of Liberty in the sand. People on other contemporary continents are probably flying around in jetpacks and flying cars😂
its so funny so see those clowns laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
That street-straddling bus is dumber than, a say, a monorail! ...And monorails make hydrogen filled Zepplins look like a brilliant idea!
What's wrong with monorails? T f
In the movie 2012 the Chinese government is tasked with building several ark-like ships that were to be used to weather the global tsunami. This is story line is a testament to the myth that China had built for itself that it was an effective and efficient builder of large projects. That myth has tumbled much like that Ecuadorian dam is likely to in the coming years.
Hollywood's self-imposed pro-china stance, movies like this bring in a few 100 million dollar from China, or 0 dollar if the CCP doesn't like the movie.
You cited a movie. Lol
@@dznuts123he cited a movie as evidence for China trying to push a myth? Gone with the wind is perfectly acceptable evidence when bringing up white washing slavery.
its so funny so see those clowns laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
what wrong with citing a movie from over 10years ago? the movie is a souvenir from time when china want foreigner to believe that china build to last. now reality are caught up with movies
All those mega-projects are falling apart. Chinese construction quality is legendarily poor. They build fast and it falls apart fast. Those bridges, railways, roads, ghost cities, etc are all falling apart. (watch the CCP chatbots respond to this post now ;)
Have you seen The China Show? They talk about legendary Chinese failures
The videos of tofu-dreg buildings where people can poke holes in the "concrete" walls and floors are insane.
@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 yea they showed those and the fields with mountains of bicycles and miles of never been driven cars are crazy. Can’t forget the pumping of chemicals into the rivers.
@@anonymoose9315And painting shit green. Saw a video where they were spraying trees, dirt, rocks, and mountain sides strip mined with green paint so from a distance it looked nice and grassy
its so funny so see those clowns laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
I've seen the port in Sri Lanka, which is Xi-Na's way to get a military base on the southwest coast within range of the worlds most used shipping lane. Oil!
Useless. The Chinese copycats cannot fight in the open sea.
@@RogueReplicant they could just park destroyers in that port and launch missiles at stuff.
@@hughmungus2760 Yes, the Chinese navy is pathetic and can never compete with the US Navy.
I've been to China on multiple occasions for work. THE KEY to being impressed by China is ONLY GOING ONCE. That way, you won't notice the same places that were broken on your last visit were "fixed" by super glue and duct tape. That way you won't notice that "new" building on your last trip 2 years ago. looks like its already falling apart today. And that way you won't notice that half the things built aren't being used at all let alone the "this never happens" sink holes on city streets seem to pop up during each and every visit.
lucky you to find out these things as a foreign visitor while majority of the people live there never even notice it😮😮😮truly amazing bro
@@henrihns2659Who’s to say the residents don’t notice it? And also if you visit a place only once in a while, changes are more visible to you than someone who’s used to looking at the same scenery every day.
That road Stradling bus is something you would see in the Simpsons, then the show would laugh and say No Homer!
For once, there were "no views" at the time of commenting. Probably 5000 when I'm done typing. Cheers
What does it all Meeean??
@@mastathrash5609Your guess is as good as mine.
You were wrong it seems. Lol
Type slower, it’s still only 3000
Just over 5,100 now probably 5,200 after typing.
You can say the same thing about most of the products they sell overseas in places like Walmart. They’re cheap facts similes of a quality version of whatever they build.
😊 _*facsimiles_
The difference being a cheap facsimile in say Walmart is still a working product created to be a cheap but fully functioning alternative, on the other hand a cheap facsimile in china is 70% of the time little more than a scam created to look like the product but not really work at all. There was a saying I vaguely remember from china fact chasers about a saying in china, something like "If your not scaming your not trying" though I'm not sure on the exact quote.
Ah yes, the stradeling bus. All of the downsides of a bus, tram and train. All packaged in one convinent pile of shit without any of the advantages of the other systems
I’m from Ecuador and that dam literally produces 1/4 of all electricity in the country
That's what happens when social credit score, fueled by bribery, takes precedence over engineering credentials.
Just happens when you’re a oligarch
We waste a ton of money on useless projects in America too. Not quite a mega project, but here in St.Louis we spent millions on a useless trolly...
Yeah I was trying to think of US examples though they're mostly a little smaller or the waste is mostly invisible bc it's spent going back and forth between different pet contractors. That skyscraper that the graffiti artists decorated in LA is pretty big though nothing like a "world's biggest"
In India (similar to London's Docklands light railway DLR), they have already done a version of this, it's called elevated railway. Although the implementation took forever, it's an alternative for the underground/tube.
before i see the part of the video where he talks about how the "strutum bus thing for the highways" thing failed im guessing it because they didnt think about the height that trucks can be, how much above the road the space needed to be or the fact that the wheels would be under so much pressure from the above "train for the roads" would be under
One thing you got wrong, there are No land owners, all the land is owned by the Chinese government, the buildings are all on a 99 year lease meaning the government can order the demolition of the buildings at any time. That is the reason there are plenty of videos showing houses sitting in the middle of multi lane roads where the owner refused to move out after being offered too low a price for their remaining lease.
My wife and her family got almost 3 times the going rate for her house. They demolished the 5 story aparment and built a 65 story apartment. Each original owner was given 3 apartments as the new building opened. Many people that don't want to sell is due to sentimental reasons and those families already had imense wealth built up which means they could own an entire bulding alone and the positions they held in the city helped them hold on. My wifes family was able to own "loan free" several properties due to the goverent granting the demolition and now just rent the extra properties out. Yep, they had to move out and find/buy a new place until the new apartments were done but...... What a pity, right.... lol
@@NebulaNestDIYShit that didnt happen for 300 Alex
@@TL-angzarr tell me you know nothing about china without saying it.
@@PhillipGregoryMusic Other than living there from 2007 to 2013 and holding an HSK 5 certificate, nope don't know much about it. But I do know BS when I hear it. Many friends of my got displaced when the built the Olympic villages, none of them were given 3 apartments. In fact while I lived there the govt made a big announcement due to public out cry that they would no longer evict people between 10 at night and 6am. During that period there were still people displaced by the 3 gorges dam complaining that they were never compensated. Yeah I don't know much but I know a BS story when I hear one.
@@TL-angzarrshit that didn't happen for 300 😂
How did you possibly ignore the great south to north water transfer project? Possibly the dumbest idea in human history.
What's that
I don’t know humans have had some truly mind blowing bad ideas.
For the Ad: A chef collective? You mean a Smorgas-Borg. I'll see myself out.
Failed Chinese projects, failed Soviet projects seeing a trend here.
its so funny so see those clowns laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
Good thing American politicians listen to criticisms and did not go for a 20 year war and spend 2 trillion dollars to replace THE TALIBAN with... THE TALIBAN.
I'd say that the duplicate cities are a great success. For wedding photographers.
Poor construction is a theme in many of China’s major projects. There are videos of siding on building crumbling away after three years or less.
More like weeks of usage.
its so funny so see those clowns laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
Yeah I was looking at their model of the train and those 90 degree turns saying to myself that's impossible. Sure enough.
You know what they call a bus on rails...? A fucking train! So they were scratching their heads thinking "why isn't this bus working?" While accidentally building a train.
The ghost cities would make great film sets for post apocalyptic movies. A bit of remodelling of street signs on a duplitecture to make it look exactly like the real thing and now you don't have to film only at sunrise.
Wait a few years and the cities will be real-life post-apocalyptic sites as the buildings will have come crashing down.
What do you expect after all it is made in China
its so funny so see those clowns laugh at CHINA, while their own weak Incompetent country can't even build a Big bridge or a Dam. Just like losers laughing at rich people whose Lamborghinis don't work, while losers only have bikes 😂
The elevated bus is beyond stupid. We have all watched videos of drivers who can’t follow simple instructions, will crash for no reason at all, and will drive right over the center divides. The list goes on and on. This sounds like a great idea for about 5 seconds until you remember all the bad drivers out there.
What irks me is that some of these project become so unprofitable and abandoned, it might be better to burn those money while streaming the event, and you might ends up with less net loss.
new channel idea. "unmega projects"?
"Welcome to Minor Projects. Today we'll talk about Dave from Toledo, Ohio building a shed in his backyard."
@@myownirvanaLol
Oh, Simon, why'd you end by saying the building is now the world's tallest unoccupied building?! Now Kim Jong-un will have to build another hotel.
May I suggest increasing voice volume slightly while simultaneously lowering background music slightly. Old DJs never die. They just eternally give unwanted audio advice.
All that waste of recourses and needless pollution is simply depressing
Ah, they are the leader in green energy and combating pollutions 😂
@@didierduplantier8359although they are still reliant coal
Oh, that first one was clearly a scam... And everybody believed it 😅
Many failures but the one mega project that succeeded beyond anyone’s expectations is probably TikTok. 😂 I’ve never used it, but apparently, it’s all the rage.
Yup. And its banned in China.
@@TheScotsalan have a different name, same company.
@@johnsmith-cw3wo Douyin is from the same company, looks like TikTok.. but it aint tiktok. Tiktok is banned in China 👍
@@johnsmith-cw3wo Its banned in China. Sorry if double answer, my other one is not showing. In China, by law all media must promote the party and country in a good way. Douyin, the bytedance company with the tiktok format, has to keep tight editorial control within Chinese law.
What if... you know... you make elevated metro system like in Chicago instead of an elevated bus system?
Another fascinating video! Thankyou
It should be noted that the debate about debt trap diplomacy likes to ignore obvious examples, such as Shri Lanka losing their chinese-built seaport to China because all of the loans essentially never left china. It was a chinese loan, contracted out to chinese construction companies, who supplied all the labor from, you guessed it china. This is most certainly skeevy as they had to repay the loan plus interest, but essentially they already got their money back because of intermingling of the ccp and private enterprise. So, imagine this example; I approach you because you need to borrow 5 bucks for a thing. I agree and loan (with interest) you the 5 bucks, but instead of handing you the money for you to go ask someone to do that thing for you I turn around put on a fake moustache and turn back around. I agree to do the work, even though I'm the one you're borrowing the money from (a massive conflict of interest) but I assure you it will be okay. Would you accept such a deal? would anyone?
Probably, someone will, if the lender say, "I'll give you a discount of 2 bucks for the 5 bucks you borrow, for good will".
The TEB was just a bloody train basically
An over gauge train, with all it's problems coming along
@6:32 - OMG! Look at the smog! The sky don't lie...
Something else that you need to account for with the elevated bus system is load/unload times. You can't stop the thing at every block or it will never get up to a decent speed. However, a person won't ride the bus if they have to walk ten blocks after getting off of it. Perhaps it can be used as something to travel BETWEEN towns and cities?
More videos like this might put you on KZhead’s bad list.
China's limit on building heights is actually much stricter. Anything over 250 metres requires special approval and cities with less than 3 million people cannot build higher than 150 metres. Some of their existing tall buildings have become safety concerns. You might recall a couple of years ago a building swaying so much that people fleeing the area like in a disaster movie.
By couple of years ago you mean last year in Shenzhen?
@@backlogbuddies May 2021 in Shenzhen, unless there was a more recent one that I missed.
@@JonMartinYXD There was one that happened either tail end of 2021 or start to mid of 2022. I had just moved from Shenzhen to a smaller city and people kept asking me why. That had just happened so I kept using it as a reason. Cant remember if it happened when I had started to look to move out of shenzhen (tail end of 2021) or when I finally moved (mid 2022).
@@backlogbuddies Wouldn't surprise me. If it happened once, it either happened at least once before that or will happen again. Or both.
Megaprojects idea the Bradley fighting vehicle. Amazing overspending and time scale.
Haha I've recently thing that raised bus thing on social media shared as "the future of transportation" or "the city of the future". Real funny to hear it was an actual thing that failed.
I'm surprised there weren't any comparisons between the elevated bus idea and Germany's Wuppertal Schwebebahn, which is a similar idea, except successful, more practical, and has been in operation for about a century.
Sad when it takes China this long to steal an idea, they are usually so fast about it.