UNREAL ENGINE 5 vs CORONA which is better for Architectural Rendering?
Can the Unreal Engine 5 provide quality comparable to Corona Render or Vray under equal conditions and on same hardware? To answer this question, I made the same scene in 3Ds Max with Corona and Unreal Engine 5.1.
I will also compare Lumen and Ray Tracing reflection to get the best result.
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00:00 Introduction
00:24 3DsMax Corona scene
02:13 Unreal Engine scene
02:06 UE Lumen scene settings
04:03 Rendering 3Ds Max Corona
04:05 My PC hardware specifications
05:08 Rendering UE Lumen
06:20 Corona vs UE Lumen
09:09 Corona vs UE Ray Tracing reflections
09:43 My opinion
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I have been in the archviz industry for 20 plus years and as cool as realtime is the comparison is not a very good representation of a paid project. Most projects require more complex environments with 100's of assets and more complex shader setups. Also if you first put the scene together in Max and then export to unreal your doubling up on work. It would be interesting to see how it would handle a low rise residential project with full landscaping and high end interiors.
I agree the detail isn't equivalent on the UE render. I've tried UE before and your right. You need to build everything in 3ds max and then export. It's more work than staying native to 3dsmax. And when I used it years ago the UV mapping was a pain the a**e to use in UE. Box mapping didn't cut it (things may have changed now). I'm still not convinced.
maybe you can try D5 render😊～～
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@@studioadrianiz5519 Exactly. " Most projects require more complex environments with 100's of assets " But man... UE5 has Nanite and this engine is suitable for big games (with hundreds of assets) and movies, series etc. " doubling up on work " Why? I have to model the scene anyway. A few clicks to export to UE, where I set the lights, cameras, materials, etc. (I only create these in UE, not in Blender/Max AND UE.) And if you make a GOOD template project for UE, you can also save a lot of time.
@@yugiohyugiohzebuyugi Exactly...@Stan3dArt how long have you used Unreal Engine?
Thanks for creating the scene this close for both tools. Must be time taking. Great work
The huge advantage of UE is that you can see the result in realtime not waiting until the image smoothes out. Thanx for the comparison!
Yes it is.
yeah, and realy difficult to make something u can easily select an option on other software, not too begginer friendly.. but i love it
And in reverse you need to bake every model textures in substance again if you want to move polygons and resulting models are not editable without repeating whole pipeline from 0. Corona IPR completely covers realtime feature in most cases enabling fast model and material editing what is unreal in unreal
Thanks for this, I've been using Corona for a while and recently did an animation with Unreal 5 and was surprised how good it looks and how much faster it is.
Yes Unreal is impressive
@@stan3dart how much did you study in this program to create such houses? And how long does it take to build the proposed home?
Can we appreciate the work he put on this video , this must be the most satisfying comparison ever watched on KZhead
thanks for your appreciation of my work!
@@stan3dart I am an Interior Design student looking for good software for complex work , which one do u recommend?
yes, this video is nice to watch..
Great comparison. Thank you so much for making this video!!!
One the best videos I've seen since I started learning ue5 I love how detailed the explanation is. It helps in many other purposes
Thank you!
Hey I also started learning UE5 just this year! Got a good price on a ThinkPad P1 off Kijiji and now I'm flying. Hope your progress is fast! I've been so bogged down learning the technical side I've only touched landscape and foliage creation so far. Making my model in SketchUp just because I'm familiar with it, but now I'm increasingly looking to do everything in UE5. So. Many. Modelling. Tutorials. But UE5 continues to get ahead of all the other programs due to Nanite, Lumen and Megascans compatibility. It's fucking SICK I love this program not to mention the fact that it's free.. like.. whaaaaat?! It's so crazy to me. So, good luck to you! (Good luck to you too @stan3dart but you don't really need it... you are clearly already a pro)
Very nice comparison !!!, really well done mate !!!, thank you so much :)
Let's goo man! Great vid Just came back to ue5 from years between since I used 4.19
the pathtracing in UE5 can get more details than the Lumen default viewport, but take much more time to render (with high details) and for the reflections with lumen, under render features there's an option to change the default reflection method to RayTraced
Yes you are right
@@stan3dart but I'm still impressed by your work btw, keep going
@@BDS_Emilia Thank you!
Thank you!
Thanks a lot for the tip !
Awesome and reliable comparison, I’m interested in CGI development and you motivated me to learn UE5 🔥🔥🔥
Thats cool!
how does this channel have only 4.9 k subs..man this is one of the most interesting channels for learning all about the architecture
This video is sooo good Stan!! 🤩
huge Thanks..!!! That's what I was searching for..!!!
Keep it up man! Your content is amazing. I would like to see more from you.
Thank you!
I use both Corona and UE5 but I am not doing ArchViz. This was a very interesting video to me, thank you! In the middle of the video I was thinking I would like to see the sources and good you have put them available too. Big thanks!
You are welcome
The amount of extra work required to correctly bring a project from Max to Unreal is vastly compensated by the amount of content you can then output from Unreal...plus the possibility to create interactive experiences for your clients.
Great video. I definitely highly preferred the quality of the reflections in the glass on Ccorona, but with some tweaking I'm certain UE5 could look even better than the corona results. Excellent video and presentation, thank you for sharing :)
You are welcome!
Why do you think that UE can give better result than corona? Corona is far more physical correct engine that UE. Even if talk about path tracer in UE.
@@Rivental Because Epic Games has a lot of money and they will make UE the best engine in the universe xD
Lol
This is a great study and video. Thank you for your time and effort spent doing it.
You are welcome!
Very nice comparison !
Cool video. Thx for this comparison)
You are welcome!
Thank you! amazing video!
Cool, thanks a lot!
Thanks for the video and hard work, never knew Unreal Engine was this good and fast.
Finally I found this video with a detailed comparison, thank you, it made me want to learn unreal engine more)
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Thank you for your efforts and time, Stan!!! Watch this video, I'm really love and want to learn Unreal Engine asap!!! Thank you so much and hope see more video tutorials from you brother!!!
Thank you Bro!
If you consider how far Unreal Engine has come even in the last year, the things you point out here such as reflections will soon be rendered in real time and be perfect. UE is an amazing tool, for game creation, but now for renders in and of themselves. The only thing I don't use UE for is modelling etc.
Yes it is!
I agree. The fact that it is a gaming engine with developers always on the brink of the newest technology is really exciting. It will be on par if not exceed traditional renderers in a few years.
I Agree with Joe below. I also have 20+ years experience and the time difference of setting up complex scenes in UE vs Max or even just porting from Max to UE and then setting up is much more than the few minutes/hours you are going to save on rendering - scene set up is days compared to rendering which is minutes. Furthermore there is a marked difference for me in the overall lighting quality. The soft gradients and details in the shadows is what describes 3d objects and the space to the viewer and also what gives a more photorealistic look - which is where the extra resource overhead is going when rendering with corona - ie. more light bouncing around etc. The UE renders just look brighter and more colorful in some instances but this will take 10 seconds to achieve in photoshop - cant see how some people says it looks better. The UE renders look far more artificial in my opinion in terms of lighting, and in the case of this example is relying very heavily on the quality of the models and textures of the assets being used. If it was a space with plane bare walls and generic or custom made textures (which is mostly the case in Arch Viz) then the difference would be more noticeable because there would be more reliance on lighting and high quality GI define shapes. I suppose it depends on your application. If you are not interested in the highest quality and flexibility and your clients cant tell the difference then maybe UE is the answer. I would be more interested if we could use the engine straight inside Max somehow 😅
This is the comment people should look at. Everything that's wrong with corona can be fixed by ticking one box.
Awesome video!
Mate, your tutorials are on a whole nother level!
Thanks Bro!
@@stan3dart I was wondering, did you do any post processing on your first video with the cabins with the tundra megascans? Like color correction/contrast, or was that all in unreal?
…and on top of the breathtaking timing let’s not forget Unreal gives you real time experience! You got to love it
Thank you for your work and time man!) Hopefully you will share pathtracing method for same scene It Will be awesome! Because there is less videos like this Showing the real scenario usage for UE5.1 compared with Corona 9 Thank you 🤝🏻👍👍👍
You are welcome!
I really like the comparison it is more detailed, unlike other channels who only scratch the surface of other software for comparison
really interesting comparison.
Fantastic comparison! For exterior I would say that UE5 looks better than Corona. Super interested in you making a video of an interior scene with both engines as well😊 Keep up the good work👍
I second this.
Very good content! as usual. Thank you very much! To me, as a Revit user, UE is the one and only archviz software that i used, with a lot of additional benefits from datasmith, visual dataprep, ... The production pipeline by applying them get better and better, and is being promising, as we already know Autodesk and Epic Games is working together. P/s: I think to get the best result for still(single frame) rendering image, we should use Path Tracing method.
Thank you for your comment. Yes, I will compare Path Tracing too, but I am very interested in Lumen, it is able to almost instantly give a good and in most cases a sufficient result.
Nice, keep it up.
This comparison is awesome. Truly beautiful images. I also use UE5 for archViz, and i have made the transition from Vray to UE about 3 yrs ago when Raytracing dropped. I noticed you did not use high-resolution mode (tiling) for your images. I am using a RTX 3080, and I found that if I needed to get resolutions above 4k my card could not handle an "average medium-sized" rendering of a housing development. However, I notice that UE5.1 hi-resolution mode seems to be now broken and any renderings over 2k crashes unreal! For that reason, I have moved back to UE5.0. Have you experienced this during your testing?
Thanks! I haven't encountered this problem yet, but I will test it in the future.
Muy buen tutorial para poder comparar, muchas cosas. Gracias y saludos desde España :) Very good tutorial to be able to compare, many things. Thanks and greetings from Spain :)
muy interesante tu video, que bien ejercicio hiciste, gran trabajo
Thanks for these informations
Thank you for sharing your top-notch knowledge, it's amazing! I'm specializing in Unreal Engine, I shared your videos with some friends, soon I'll write to you on your patreon, it's really worth having you here!
Thank you so mutch!
Your job is amazing bro. Love your workflow is so clean. Just want to know why increase the light map resolution if you are using Lumen and not baking light ?
UE generates a light map for Lumen automatically. Check out this information for a better understanding: docs.unrealengine.com/5.1/en-US/understanding-lightmapping-in-unreal-engine/
at 6:10 there was some unreal 5 artifacts at the low edge on the ceiling, i tried to recreate it with simple cube objects, there was no light or shadow artifacts in viewport at least.
Awesome compression.
gracias hermano, buen contenido mil bendiiciones desde Colombia
Thank you!
Very good comparison, awesome work man. One question, the building reflections became better with Raytracing, but pool reflections were much worst, I wonder why that happened.
Yes, this is true, I suppose the problem is in the material settings, it needs to be reconfigured for RayTracing.
Very Helpfull
Thanks!
Thank you ☺️
так держать! (cool work!)
Thanks!
nice share more UNREAL rendering tips and material making tips
thanks for sharing brother..
You are welcome
Good stuff!!!!!.
Stan THE man, great video bro, looking forward for more amazing work!
Thanks bro
Great Job, really great video, quick tip if you show comparison, when comparing the quality of images, dont divide the screen in 2 parts. Waiting for more of your video, like this content - Team 2zro
You are welcome
Dont divide the screen in 2 parts for a comparison? Quick tip, dont comment again and keep doing your videos. They need to improve a lot!
congratulations 2k subscribers in 2 weeks
Thank you
if u enable RT hardware support and RT reflections, and put some tweaks into MRQ it will be much better in UE5
thanks for your Description
Vray is made for you. Great vid
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Good job bro. I'm architect and 3d artist, too. I use UE5. I will be happy if we are have more connection .
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HI, Stan this is great. I am on working with corona now and looking forward to use UE5. So Is there any possibility to get rid of the reflection and shadowing artifacts in UE5?
Regarding reflections, this is a definite problem in Lumen and Ray Tracing at the moment. But I am sure that soon the UE developers will be able to correct the situation. As for the Path Tracer, the reflections in it are almost identical to the Corona. But you can get rid of shadow artifacts.
please can you make a full tutrial from A to Z for beginner and slow tutorial for full architecture project!! it gonna help us really please!!
Good content. btw you can get the same Megascans result with the original source file or normal bump setting. But you need to customize Datasmith export, not the default one. The default export setting will give the result as yours. I would like to see a comparison video with Megascan quality in 3ds max and UE after you change Datasmith export and download settings (Scoure file or normap). Source file is very detailed and high poly so if you want to optimize, use corona proxy or chaos scatter. If you appreciate my suggestion, I would like to see comparasion video of Megascan quality (will be useful for the most people) .
Thank you for your offer. I used Megascans in 3ds max Corona directly from Megascans. Including normal map.
@@stan3dart Yeah but if you were to add a displacement map modifier voila the detail arrives
@@chipshopstyle wouldn't that increase the render time even more already considering that is is way higher than that in UE5?
@@ShomitSarkar maybe a little but it means that it will look just as good. UE5 rocks for sure but the GPU thing is a bit silly
thanks for useful information about timing any idea how much time takes Animation video in unreal 5.1 for hires building with landscape like archviz exterior project means very heavy scene ?
Each project is unique. But I can say from personal experience that in UE the process of creating an Archviz has become many times faster from scene compositing to rendering. In comparison for example with 3ds max (Corona, Vray).
@@stan3dart thanks for reply 100 %true and agree after watch your video .
very good
hi, I can't get rendering with the vray engine in 3dsmax, rendering can't be started even though I've assigned a light and camera, what do you think could be the problem?
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Thanks!
Спасибо за видос! Творческих успехов!
Spasibo!
Nice comparison! What about the path tracing in UE vs Vray UE vs Corona?
It comings soon
Very interesting! I hope Unreal can figure out the reflections with Lumen to at least be able to be on par with ray-tracing... I that the pool looks better with Lumens reflections but when it comes to the glass reflections I think raytracing wins...fingers crossed they can sort this out soon and we can move fully to unreal!
I agree with you. I'm sure they will improve Lumen and we will be able to make cool renders instantly. I'm a Lumen fan :)
If you want to sort the reflections in real-time, you have to add planar reflection probes to the glass and drive the reflective nature with the normal map from the glass (if it is a texture and not a shader) otherwise you can drive the reflection probe with a shader too.
Спасибо! Отличное показательное сравнение. Вы проводите обучение archviz в UE?
Thank you for your comment. At the moment I only make tutorial videos on KZhead
Thank you man! Great job. Too much work done to create this video. This helped me to understand generally the abilities of both tools.
I'm glad the video was helpful for you
Cool
That was really impressive. I mean of course UE can’t hold up with corona in detail but for an fast image this looks really good
UE5 cant hold up to Corona in detail? How? 😂 Nanite actually enables you to render tenthousands of assets in realtime and with correct lighting thanks to Lumen and raytraced light and reflexions, realtime. You all just dont know shit about UE5 as it seems. 😳
what was the time for both? the final render time is not the only time for that kind of comparison!
I compared only the rendering time. UE is not the best solution for 3d modeling.
@@stan3dart no i didnt meant the rendering, i meant the preperation for rendering, like materials and lighting, etc..
super bro
Amazing video, thank you. Do you think the days of Vray and Corona are doomed then?
I think that the future for Real time, Vray and Corona will adapt
Great video manh👍🏻Can you share a perfect processor for unreal engine 5
For UE you need NVIDIA GPU
thanks for your
Хороший и полезный обзор. Спасибо
with lumen parameters you can increase the quality of the reflections, i don't know if you do it on these examples but Post Process Volume > Reflections > Method:Lumen > Quality: 2 > Ray Lighting Mode: Hit lighting for reflections
Yes these parameters have been increased
@@stan3dart also in 5.3 (i'm using beta) you'll can increase bounces (max reflection bounces on PPV REFLCETIONS options) and adding this commands: r.Lumen.Refletions.ScreeenSpaceReconstruction.KernelRadius 64 (default 8) (5.3) r.Lumen.Reflections.HisResSurface 1 sorry, now i'm a UE fanboy
@@pg_carvallo Thanks for advice. Please find me in Instagram @stanzhuikov we can we can share experience. I'm UE fan too🙂
great video, now compare corona with UE Path Tracing ;)
I already did this comparison, see the second part 👌
Thank you for this comparison. Very beautiful and comparable results for both. It is really high praise for where unreal is. I do have objection to your scene setup. You are using real-time software, like unreal that uses proxies for every stage of the render. It is not fair to compare it to non-denoised corona with artificially high noise limit- like you've set- to 1.7%. Using Corona high quality denoising and a much more appropriate denoise limit, instead of arbitrary pass count, you could get much faster and cleaner results. Comparing those results with other limitations of unreal, you would find that Corona is still noticeably better. This may change sometime in the future, but that time is still not today. Either way, unreal is getting very impressive.
Thanks for the extended comment. I used the default Corona settings. Maybe in the future I will do some more experiments.
you can enable raytraced shadows for lumen, in project settings, which should get rid of the artifacts
Thanks for advice, but problem was with material settings.
the most practical and time-optimized is UE - I hope I can learn and master that too
Of course everything will work out
This awesome, can you make video vray vs corona/lumion/UE5 pls
Yes maybe in next videos
Ziomek jest sztuczną inteligencją :D
Iam new in Unreal. Are there also Render AOVs for compositing later in Photoshop or Fusion?
Yes MRQ has "render elements" like corona and vray
I always had trouble finding best reflection effects and glass materials were always difficult for me to find in the EU. Moreover, making materials for gems, diamonds. UE's weakness I think is there since UE 4. But for the rest UE, mind blowing.
UU 5.2 made large improvements regarding reflection quality.
Thank you for sharing. For me, Corona probably only win the reflection...(it does really good actually), but consider the time and environment, UE5 >>> CORONA)
🙂
If you want to fix the shadow issue under the roof of the front most building, all you have to do it to activate contact shadows and potentially play with shadow offset. That should solve the shadow problem completely with no side effects
The problem was with the Concreate Normal map texture.
@@stan3dart What about the normal map was wrong?
@@pawnix4122 No idea, I just generated a new one and the problem was solved
@@stan3dart Okay. I am glad you solved the issue. Keep up the good work :)
@@pawnix4122 🙂👍
Thank you for your effort, excellent job. While Lumen is still amazing, especially for animations, Path Tracing is still better for stills. if Path Tracing doesn't require an Nvidia RTX card, and you have the time, can you give it a try and make a comparison between the 3 please? (Max Corona, UE5 Lumen, UE5 Path Tracing)
Thanks, I'm already working on it
@@stan3dart + UE 5 Baked Lighting 😅
HI Stan3DArt, can you please make video animation tutorial in 3dsmax x Corona render like you did with UE 5 "Cabin in the Rocks". Thank you
dont think you have setup the water correctly. and did you load the LOD0 into the 3dsmax scene? looks like a lower rest LOD
Yes I used LOD0. Materials have simple settings Diffuse and Normal
@@stan3dart yeah, i think that is why it comes out so bad in corona engine.
nice
in corona can render it 5 minutes per image on AMD 5950x with intel denoising and lack of detail on background mountains because of wrong materials settings i think BUT i think UE can do precise contact shadows soon and it change all static renders
Can you export different passes like MaterialID, Alpha, object ID, light and reflection passes etc in Unreal Engine 5?
Yes you can with MRQ
Hi. Somewhere disappeared my question and your answer. Try to make another video comparing Corona results with Path Tracer method. You will get more accurate results.
I had to re-upload the video. Of course, I'm also very interested in the result.🙂
Awesome, very interesting…. ‘That’s what we’re talking about’
Thanks!