Sawyer and Jack go over some tips and tricks to shooting at an indoor range where you might be limited with what you can do. You can work on the draw and reloads with dry fire at home but there's no replacement for actual live fire. You can get a lot of work done from a "compressed ready" position or even full presentation. Grip, sights, and trigger are some of the most important things you can work on at an indoor range.
Huge shoutout to Ready Gunner for letting us use their indoor range powered by Action Target!
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Check out the MSP Pro Series and AXIS Elite holster that Sawyer and Jack are using in this video
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I had an Apex for about a week. Worked fine for the first couple hundred rounds then one day I did a random function check and found that it wasn't releasing the striker. Since my pistol won't strip unless it's uncocked I had to punch the pins and remove everything while attached to the slide. On the plus side, all the CS reps i dealt with were extremely helpful.
Great teaching drill!! Thank you👍🇺🇸
You are very welcome
Great vid guys. RG is my local range and it's awesome! Glad to see Jack pick up an M&P as well. Are you running flat faced or curved apex trigger? Would you mind sharing why you chose that one over the other?
I'm new to the channel and this is a really good video, stressing fundamentals and range safety. Keep it up guys!
Thanks! Will do!
Another good video imma stay up and binge watch your videos
Vids like this is why I subscribe to you guys. U guys rock! 🇺🇸
Thanks man, we appreciate you!
I’ll practice slide lock reload with your guys axis elite holster. If I have a buddy or if certain RSOs are in I’ll ask them to load dummy rounds mixed with live rounds in my magazines so I can practice tap rack and see if I flinch when I press the shot
Good video. I don’t have outdoor ranges around me unless I drive like 1.5hrs away. Definitely will try some of these tips next time I go.
Glad it was helpful!
Should be somewhere to shoot in that 1.5 hour drive. Join a gang they shoot often. Even while driving
Great advice and skill. I would also like to know your personal workout routine to get my body in shape like yours. But keep in mind that I have diarrhea a lot so, straining a lot for me is messy. And by keep in mind, I mean, a lot. Like every time you strain at all, think of me and my issue.
Great video.. Good information.
Glad it was helpful!
Love the videos! Was wondering if you guys could do one on stance? I'm sure it's really simple and maybe I'm too tense while shooting but even leaning forward I bounce back a lot. I have tight double taps but as soon as I really turn up the speed my shots start to go low in a straight line from what I guess is my shoulders trying to stay level but failing. Watching Sawyer's bill drill it almost looks like he's not being pushed at all even while standing pretty upright. Is it as simple as leaning your hips forward and staying upright with a relaxed core?
trial and error will help you find what works the best for you, specifically! most of us have a slightly staggered stance, but other than that we try to be very relaxed
@@Tier1Concealed thanks for the tip I'll try it during my next range session!
@@Tier1Concealed That was my issue! Way too tense. It's funny how doing less actually yields better results sometimes.
Great video! So happy to see the much needed M&P love. Is this your main EDC?
Sawyer has been carrying it a lot lately!
@@Tier1Concealed thanks! I’m constantly on the fence between my Glock 19 and M&P 2.0. So glad to see M&P get the love and respect they deserve!
THE FIREBALLS FROM THE M&P🤤💀🤤
An indoor range near me allows rapid fire - as long as you’re safely hitting the target. However, it would be tough to effectively use a shot timer. Thanks for the video!
The shot timer was not to measure your actual shots but to beep to start and to beep at a set time. If you can hear the beep before your done your above par if you hear it after your shots your under par
Us poors use the sound of someone shooting as a shot timer. Or sometimes I’ll use my best girl voice and say go. It’s kinda weird cause I go by myself.
Coll video. Just went to The Gallery sportsman's club and range in Denver. It is located near Denver actually in Lakewood. If you guys get a chance try it out, it is state of the art and fantastic people. Keep up the great videos
Thanks for the info!
Cool video
My indoor range allows draw and rapid fire, luckily.
My dream is arex delta holster from tier 1
Is that M&P ported? Thing shooting some flames!
It is. By Monsoon Tactical
Yep, Lucky 7's porting by Monsoon Tactical
Gonna get me one of them t-shirts he’s wearing.
As I have my IPDA and IPSC holster qualifications, my range let’s me draw, reload, rapid fire and even face up range and turn and draw. My favourite drill is one or two shot draws on 3” pasters hanging on 3/4” tape @ 7 yards. I shoot until the paster falls off and then cut the tape in half .
Our local indoor range closed in July. That makes me sad. The guy said he wasn't making any money. I keep hoping someone else will reopen it.
Dang man, you hate to hear it
Why the change from Langdon Glock to Smith Sawyer? Did it fail at some level?
nope! Langdon still running strong! Just wanted to try something new
I want to see you guys compete in a uspsa match. Or something of the like.
most of us have before, but its been a few years.
One happy Donovan
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my biggest problem as a new shooter is shakey hands, about ready to give up
I would love for y'all to comment on the reasons y'all have switched to Smith & wesson. Very interesting. 👍🔥
I think they just wanted to try something new and there's no debating that the apex trigger in the m&p 2.0 is awesome.
🤔was that truly a 20 yard cold start group?
Yep, not the best group. We've all shot better groups before
Then lucky 🍀 7 are spicy 🌶 🔥!
seriously good porting!!
3 7's is my drill indoors. I have my draw card so im cool like that ya know , lol It usually doesnt take long and everyone is stealing my targets and getting just as frustrated at those little dots as I am. Especially the 1st one , you are dead before you even get going......ROAR
I like that Hat
The distances don't look right. When you said it was 10 yard that looked more like 15 ft and the 7 yards looked like 10 ft.
I’ve never once asked to draw from holster. Personally I hate indoor range but if they see how I draw and decide I can’t, then so be it I pay for what I have to and leave never to come back.
Good stuff. Bit for me, every indoor range in my reasonable area require >1 second per shot :(
Yeahh no rapid fire, unsafe and others who are less skilled may try it with disastrous results.
Why does 20 yard look like it’s super close on the video, but it feels like a mile IRL?
haha honestly so true
He obviously has a personal relationship with this range and or it’s closed since none of what he’s doing fast would be allowed.
Some RSOs put you through a test to see if you have the proficiency to do what he’s doing. If you pass you can do pretty much whatever you want as long as you’re endangering others lives.
@@NickHairston His TEST won’t stand the test of time if there’s an accident and someone gets shot. That’s the purpose of consistent rules for everyone because the business insurance won’t give a dam about a test the RSO came up with when the law suits fly.
Fortunately, we do have a great relationship with Ready Gunner. But, it honestly just depends on the specific range and their rules. We have all been to ranges where they don't allow any type of draw or "rapid" fire, but we also have all been to ranges where they'll let you draw and shoot how you please, just depends.
@@Tier1Concealed absolutely… the issue comes in when you have skilled shooters who CAN accomplish those draw and shoot goals and the folks a few booths down watching and thinking they can do the same things with horrific results hence the rule.. no one can do it for everyones safety and the businesses and their insurance abide by that and if they don’t then there may not be a range there any longer.
Yes most ranges dont allow drawing from a holster or rapid firing. I fortunately live near a range in Maryland that allows both and allows reloads, you just have to get holster certified.
Love the lesson but not the constant music. Gotta turn that off
I didn’t know you had to ask. I just went in and shot from appendix. No one ever says anything. Better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
Yeah that system is def ft. That's not 25 yards. My range is 25 yards which is 75 ft.... That does not look like 75 ft....
It's a pretty accurate system at that range. The camera lens can always alter your perception if you weren't there
@@Tier1Concealed very true.
Man that gun shoots flat
I know this video is over a yr old, but as a fellow content creator, try to lower the background music. Your information is more relevant and important than the music. It happened to me too.
We appreciate the feedback!! Hopefully our more current videos are much better
If you’re in Orem Utah, you should not be using an indoor range ever. Either your new Utah, or you just never grew up there..
How about not playing annoying music while you're talking?
Calm down Nancy