South Korea in talks to join 'Asian Nato' as threat of Cold War with China looms

2024 ж. 30 Сәу.
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“It’s not just China that thinks this isn’t necessarily a good idea.”
South Korea is now in talks to join Aukus, raising questions as to whether the pacific security pact is preparing to become Asia’s version of NATO, and how this will provoke China.
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  • South Korea is more than welcomed

    @PureBadBreath@PureBadBreath15 күн бұрын
    • South Korea is very good at shipyard building and artillery manufacturing capabilities. Both South Korea and Japan are de facto nuclear weapon states, in terms of the ability to produce one in 1-year timeframe.

      @nfuryboss@nfuryboss15 күн бұрын
    • S. Korea are leading the shipbuilding industry and doing well in exporting military supplies. They are also staunch allies of USA in terms of technology.

      @user-dv5if1hm2w@user-dv5if1hm2w15 күн бұрын
    • ​​@@user-dv5if1hm2w yes. South Korea has been a good Ally to the US. While America has a few thousand troops and heavy military presence in SK, it is the UN that acts as guarantor of Soul's "safety". Their future is bright, but their economic rise bothers China.

      @williestyle35@williestyle3513 күн бұрын
    • SKorea might want to develop nuclear deterent power against China.

      @cherrybomb1229@cherrybomb12294 күн бұрын
    • Joining NATO is not good for South Korea at all.

      @nonnonno-sx5mk@nonnonno-sx5mk2 күн бұрын
  • Chinas feelings are not my concern

    @aab4219@aab421915 күн бұрын
    • Yes. Attributing feelings is a projection. Feelings likely have zero to do with the reality.

      @billytheweasel@billytheweasel10 күн бұрын
  • How does this guy think democracy survived through the first Cold War? ALLIANCES!!!! Does this guy also blame Ukraine for Russia's war of choice? 🇺🇸💙🇬🇧🇦🇺🇳🇿🇨🇦🇯🇵🇰🇷🇵🇭🇪🇺 🇺🇦🕊️

    @jdemd1977@jdemd197715 күн бұрын
    • The world almost didn’t survive now that we know both sides almost started nuclear war a few times. It was sheer luck we avoided self annihilation. So now you want that same bloc Cold War gamble back again? What is wrong with you?

      @prastagus3@prastagus313 күн бұрын
    • @@prastagus3 Unfortunately that's the world we live in. Except this time our alliances have expanded to include former adversaries of democracy. Alliances and the threat of mutually assured destruction are what kept nuclear war and the wholesale genocide of most of the world's ethnicities at bay.

      @jdemd1977@jdemd197713 күн бұрын
    • ​@@prastagus3 It cant be the other way around WE ALREADY TRIED THAT. You do know thats how ww2 started. Germany had to guarantee to "respect" the neutrality of the border countries . Also neutral countries that doesn't have a great terrain nor military for defense those said countries will be easy taken advantage off. Appeasement/diplomacy is useless if the country doesn't kept its words. That's WHY WERE HERE TODAY THE MORE THAT COUNTRY ACTS HOSTILE THE MORE THE COUNTRIES SURROUNDING IT WILL FAVOR AN ALLIANCE THAN GETTING SPEEDBUMBED

      @Beluga93737@Beluga9373712 күн бұрын
    • @@Beluga93737 WE ALREADY TRIED THAT? We never did after WW2 when better international system was setup. Neutral countries understand the logic of bloc politics this time around will pick a side if either threatens it. Plus prior neutral countries are all European, American, or Japanese colonies, not independent ones like we have right now. "IT WILL FAVOR AN ALLIANCE THAN GETTING SPEEDBUMBED" - then read objective news to find out who's favoring alliance, who is not, and why. That's why I can answer you calmly, it is not the same this time around.

      @prastagus3@prastagus312 күн бұрын
  • China is provking this move, not the other way around ...

    @nas4apps@nas4apps15 күн бұрын
    • same as how USSR threat created NATO

      @KSmifune@KSmifune15 күн бұрын
    • No they’re not.

      @callumhaines6874@callumhaines687415 күн бұрын
    • Explain?​@@callumhaines6874

      @mcr2356@mcr235614 күн бұрын
    • @@callumhaines6874 like Russian aggression provoked Sweden and Finland to join NATO

      @nas4apps@nas4apps13 күн бұрын
    • @@nas4apps You’ve no idea what you’re talking about. It’s quite apparent you don’t know anything about geopolitics other than the latest head line you’ve read 10 minutes ago. Ignorance is bliss

      @callumhaines6874@callumhaines687413 күн бұрын
  • They ought to invite the Philippines as well…

    @Oldfogey2014@Oldfogey201415 күн бұрын
    • If it morphs into a treaty organisation, then definitely invite several others (other than who have already declared an interest - NZ, SK and Japan) to join. ROP, Thailand, Singapore etc. But right now it’s a technology sharing agreement, so ROP is an unlikely partner.

      @benjarongprojects@benjarongprojects13 күн бұрын
    • Philippines is not reliable, their opinions change towards the chicoms depending how the political winds blow

      @damiion666@damiion6667 күн бұрын
  • If South Korea and Japan form a military alliance, then that would be a game changer.

    @badluck5647@badluck564715 күн бұрын
  • AUKUS likely to include Canada, Japan, Korea and New Zealand. Strange how this person does not state the obvious, these countries have been trying to engage China for a long time, but China keeps behaving in a way that makes other people nervous. Both Australia and New Zealand stated a long time ago that if another country built a military base in the Pacific then that would be considered as a significant threat. Guess what China is building in PNG. There has to be a reaction to this other wise see what happened in Ukraine. History repeats.

    @3800gracie@3800gracie15 күн бұрын
    • There is also FPDA. FPDA is regularly exercising. Seato is not. FPDA includes Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and the UK.

      @martinharnevie@martinharnevie15 күн бұрын
    • NATO has been very effective in countering the Soviets. SEATO was a failure. Maybe this time the nations involved can finally agree on common goals.

      @KSmifune@KSmifune15 күн бұрын
    • Down with PRC access to PNG

      @jyy9624@jyy962415 күн бұрын
    • I'm not a communist by any means, but are you saying it's ok for the biggest warmongers the world has ever known to set up military bases all over the world? Really if you look back at their track record, and look through the propaganda, you will see this whole current situation we're in is about the US losing hegemony, and world financial control. They're simply using the same old tactics, used many times before, spread mass propaganda, send in troops to destabilize, spread more propaganda, talk of Dictators, regimes, these people want to take over the world, etc. This is being used against both Russia, and China.

      @georgethompson4283@georgethompson428315 күн бұрын
    • I understand the concern, however, Japan, South Korea and the US control Chinese access to the Pacific and Indian Oceans. In particular the US has major bases in Guam and Diego Garcia. Not to mention Hawaii and other places. It is not hard to imagine this would make the Chinese nervous. Even more than the US, China depends on ocean based shipping for it's economic prosperity. From the Chinese point of view, bases in the Pacific and other places are a way to ensure the US commitments to "freedom of navigation" are not empty or misleading rhetoric. You and I may trust the Americans more, but the fact is the Chinese are doing exactly what the US, Britain, France and others have been doing for hundreds of years.

      @logaandm@logaandm15 күн бұрын
  • If China didn’t see the South China Sea and other water bodies as their very own Chinese Lakes then a multi-country alliance wouldn’t be desired! It’s like NATO. If Russia hadn’t been so aggressive towards its neighbors since 2008 and really escalating in 2022, Sweden and Finland would NEVER have joined NATO. The same with the Pacific. If China hadn’t just ignored that they lost the case of the Maritime Commission in ‘16 and continue bullying other South Asian countries in the Seas, all these countries wouldn’t have wanted an alliance.

    @annehersey9895@annehersey989515 күн бұрын
    • If West not colonize every country and make a world order with their power only and only they can do the invasion then this would never happen

      @asrafamani5028@asrafamani502812 күн бұрын
    • 💯

      @robchandler9163@robchandler916311 күн бұрын
  • As an Australian I can’t believe how out of touch is this naive British analysis. No one is “sleepwalking into a new Cold War” or being “provocative”. The more stable democracies across the region understand we are already in the early phase of Cold War II as a result of China’s growing belligerence, threats and undermining of sovereignty of its neighbours and its friendship “without limits” with Putin’s Russia. Nice to be so far away Britain to sneer at Indo-Paciifc allies feeling more and more sufficiently insecure to consciously work towards stronger collective security arrangements. Sooner a long struggle in a new Cold War than a short and devastating struggle in a hot one.

    @Aussiespirit@Aussiespirit14 күн бұрын
    • Sleepwalking into a new cold war was pretty much use by most geopolitical analysts in describing NATO's disengagement in ukraine situation. Europe was seemingly hesitant to swiftly end the war by intervening to Ukraine's war. Since they are afraid to get drag. In reality, they are one of the reason why Russia attacked Ukraine. NATO aggressive membership caused Russia to attacked Ukraine. Although, Europe seemingly united, they aren't and not ready to engage directly into the war.

      @itswo0d@itswo0d14 күн бұрын
    • Yes. Australia in particular has been keeping notes over the last couple of decades on China's expansionist and aggressive moves in the region .

      @williestyle35@williestyle3513 күн бұрын
  • Seems odd to massively expand your armed forces, start bullying your smaller neighbours then get upset when they join up for mutual defence.

    @propagandix@propagandix14 күн бұрын
    • And they back up NK, but China still mad. Bunch of a-holes

      @aznjchau@aznjchau14 сағат бұрын
  • You've Had To In The Past And Will Continue In The Future Make A Choice As To Who's Side You Are On 🇺🇸 🇨🇳

    @bgt54rfvcde32wsxzaq1@bgt54rfvcde32wsxzaq115 күн бұрын
  • It is frustrating that Mike Johnson was able to hold up aid for as long as he did Ukraine suffered unnecessarily in its absence and will have a hard fight ahead of them regain what they have lost while Johnson turned a blind eye to their plight I sencerily hope that Americans will force him to resign in shame He'll never been able to wash the blood from his hands !

    @user-ph5ys7ed7i@user-ph5ys7ed7i15 күн бұрын
  • Just an FYI, NZ has just signed a joint defense agreement with the Philippines for joint drills with our militaries as well as talks in joining piller 2 of AUKUS. I can easily see the Philippines joining piller 2 as well!

    @whyamihere7489@whyamihere748914 күн бұрын
  • Canada is also in talks to join AUKUS. What's clear is that an Indo-Pacific Treaty Organisation is forming. Others supporting this are Phillipines, Singapore (who uses Australian bases for training) Indonesia (quietly), Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia even though they won't admit it.

    @wirrinwibbi-ko801@wirrinwibbi-ko80115 күн бұрын
    • I doubt malaysia really.

      @itswo0d@itswo0d14 күн бұрын
    • @@itswo0d China is also threatening the S. China sea claims (just like that of Brunei) of Malaysia's Kalimantan. Malaysian's are scarred because there a let of tentacles from China in the mainland. Their choice will be to retain their Kalimantan portion or maintain friendly trade ties with China. Malaysia will make their choice when the time comes just like Australia did re it's 60% trade with China. Security & soveriegnty trumps all. Also note that Malaysia is still a member of the Commonwealth. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations

      @wirrinwibbi-ko801@wirrinwibbi-ko80112 күн бұрын
  • Who likes China in the area?! Raise yr hand!. Guess what, no one

    @user-yb6eo1xp2f@user-yb6eo1xp2f15 күн бұрын
    • North Korea, Myannmar, Malaysia , Pakistan what no one .

      @MrX-wd8cm@MrX-wd8cm15 күн бұрын
    • NK and China are the nearest each other have to friends and allies. Which is telling.

      @tw25rw@tw25rw15 күн бұрын
    • @@tw25rw And don't forget Palestine and ... Hamaaas !

      @MrX-wd8cm@MrX-wd8cm14 күн бұрын
    • And Russia,Indonesia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia. If don’t know about East and Asian dynamics then don’t make ignorant conclusion

      @prastagus3@prastagus313 күн бұрын
    • @@prastagus3 nobody likes China, do yr homework. China is the regional bully

      @user-yb6eo1xp2f@user-yb6eo1xp2f13 күн бұрын
  • AUKUS= technology development Five eyes= intelligence sharing agreement NATO = defensive pact They are not the same. He did a good job of trying to clarify that towards the end.

    @chillxxx241@chillxxx24115 күн бұрын
  • Who provides the steel for the Aukus program?

    @MrMysto@MrMysto15 күн бұрын
  • Is it any surprise that the big kids (the bullies of the school) don't like the idea that the smaller kids are coming together to protect themselves...? Clearly the grouping nullifies the threat from the big kids. We see it happening globally, the big kids are struggling with how to maintain the fear amongst the rest! They could try just being "nice"... 🤷‍♂️

    @gray100@gray10015 күн бұрын
  • I like the idea of an 'Asian NATO.' I like the idea of expanding and transforming NATO into a global military defense alliance even more. This would be a kind of world police, a world defense alliance against international terrorism-including individual actors, groups, states, and alliances-as well as against extraterrestrial threats. It would also serve as an essential foundation for securing our extraterrestrial endeavors in this and the coming centuries: research, expansion, and the establishment of states beyond Earth. The creation of an "Asian NATO" is a great idea and a milestone on the right path.

    @Rob-ro7nc@Rob-ro7nc15 күн бұрын
    • I agree, bring in every stable liberal democracy on Earth. Rename it to the global defense initiative. (GDI)

      @foilhat1138@foilhat113815 күн бұрын
    • ​@@foilhat1138Or Earth as one.

      @JMK948@JMK94815 күн бұрын
  • Pacific Alliance Organization (PAO) Pronounced "POW"..... my vote for a name lol.

    @conroc01@conroc0115 күн бұрын
    • Nice! 👍

      @jdemd1977@jdemd197715 күн бұрын
  • Asians need to establish a NATO like organization too. South East Asian Treaty Organization = SEATO should include Australia too.

    @themouas@themouas15 күн бұрын
    • South East Asia countries are very conservative in terms of military alliance, except for the Philippines.

      @Sportislife.@Sportislife.13 күн бұрын
  • It is thought that Canada would like to join AUKUS, but their low defense spending levels and dithering over procurement has limited their chances of getting an invite. If Canada does get in, little New Zealand may come along as well, hanging on the coat tails. I doubt New Zealand has much to offer, but everyone loves New Zealand, and treats it like Australia's little brother. It hasn't been announced but it is thought likely that New Zealand may purchase some of the new frigates Australia will be building. While the initial focus was on nuclear submarines, the original announcement did include developing drones, AI, and other cutting edge defense tech, and both Japan and South Korea would be ideal partners for that process. The recent announcement by Australia about developing 32VLS "crew optional" ships with the US (code for drone missile corvettes) was an example of the AUKUS defense strategy already in action and large investments in nuclear submarine building have already been made (eg Australia investing $5billion into Rolls Royce nuclear propulsion manufacturing and breaking ground in South Australia of a new nuclear submarine shipyard.) Whether other countries join or not, AUKUS is well underway, and will transform global defense activities and alliances for decades to come.

    @artistjoh@artistjoh15 күн бұрын
    • Yes. NZ doesn’t have much in the way of military power but I would point out that in WW 2 we lost more than most lives per head of population. Yeah, we’re small.

      @user-wy7nu7kc3j@user-wy7nu7kc3j14 күн бұрын
    • @@user-wy7nu7kc3j In WW 2 New Zealand was far more serious about defense. Sadly, in recent decades it has fallen into the same hole as Canada - not spending enough, and dithering over what little spending is happening. It is crazy to think that it has an air force that has no fighter jets. And it tells the allies that it will depend on if conflict does break out with China - you cannot bring your naval assets here. Hopefully New Zealand will find its way out of that fog and return to the days when it used to punch above its weight. Unfortunately for the country, it has to come to terms with drastically increasing defense spending. The country needs to learn from Singapore, a country far smaller than New Zealand, and with a similar size population, yet it operates a large fleet of F16’s and F15’s (and is buying 20 F35) and needs to use bases in Australia, US, and France, to overcome its country size limitations. And it has a navy that operates 32 ships and 4 submarines. It kind of demonstrates what New Zealand could potentially be doing regarding defense. Everybody wants to see New Zealand get back to past glories. The world is suddenly too dangerous not to.

      @artistjoh@artistjoh14 күн бұрын
  • Funny how delicate he is and dancing around about Taiwan talk, clearly he recognises that only a handful of countries that recognise Taiwan as not part of China…

    @kevinclasher3160@kevinclasher316015 күн бұрын
  • Commercials are LOUD , YOU are Mumbling on MAX VOLUME !!!

    @johnnywalker4490@johnnywalker449015 күн бұрын
  • Aukus isn’t really Nato though- it’s a military tech sharing platform

    @anirudhanagarajan7530@anirudhanagarajan75309 күн бұрын
  • mumbling , Turn UP the Volume !!

    @johnnywalker4490@johnnywalker449015 күн бұрын
  • China can lump it.

    @user-kq5ke5yb6k@user-kq5ke5yb6k14 күн бұрын
  • Is New Zealand coming along for t 2:31 ride?

    @annehersey9895@annehersey989515 күн бұрын
    • Most likely, we are in talks with joining piller 2 of AUKUS, but we also just signed a defense agreement with the Philippines for joint drills with them and I can easily see the Philippines joining AUKUS with Japan and SK.

      @whyamihere7489@whyamihere748914 күн бұрын
  • The UK and rhe US definately meed to look after 'their back yard" which allegedly is everywhere.

    @HenkBoshoff@HenkBoshoff8 күн бұрын
  • Doesn't it already exist? I believe its called SEATO. The South East Asia Treaty Organisation.

    @simonmoorcroft1417@simonmoorcroft141714 күн бұрын
  • It is not about becoming a super power. It is about what you do with that power.

    @thaymoua@thaymoua14 күн бұрын
  • Everyday we move a little closer to Fallout being a prophecy.

    @PoutingTrevor@PoutingTrevor15 күн бұрын
  • You should only be able to join, if your nation begins with a Vowel.

    @mpsymonds1@mpsymonds115 күн бұрын
  • The Illusion of an Asian NATO: A Comprehensive Analysis 1. **Introduction:** The recent discussions surrounding the concept of an Asian NATO have stirred debates and speculation. However, a thorough examination reveals the impracticality and strategic pitfalls of such a proposition. 2. **Strategic Realities:** - The Indo-Pacific region is characterized by a complex interplay of diverse interests and historical tensions among nations. - The idea of establishing a unified bloc akin to NATO oversimplifies the intricate dynamics of the region and risks exacerbating existing conflicts. - Notably, Australia herself maintains only two formal alliances, with New Zealand and the United States, both characterized by flexibility and strategic ambiguity. 3. **China's Role:** - Central to the discourse is China's ascent and its assertive conduct, including coercive tactics and territorial aspirations. - Pursuing containment strategies through rigid alliance structures may escalate tensions and impede diplomatic resolutions. 4. **Multiplexed Arrangements:** - Rather than pursuing a singular alliance, a multiplexed approach involving mini-laterals and overlapping interests among nations offers a more viable path to regional stability. - Initiatives such as the Quad and AUKUS are often mischaracterized as alliances, feeding into the Chinese narrative of containment and grievance. - It's essential to understand these initiatives as cooperative frameworks aimed at addressing shared challenges in the region, rather than as rigid alliances. 5. **American Supremacy and Realignment:** - The concept of continued American supremacy is outdated and unrealistic in the face of evolving global power dynamics. - Nations must acknowledge the shift to the real world where the technological edge IS the competition. Historically the technological gap is much narrower then the enormous Gap the United States was fortunate to achieve was not the product of American exceptionalism but of European insanity an Asian stagnation. Whilst the European Nations constantly waged war amongst themselves over 18th and 19th centuries the United States was able to rebuild itself in the aftermath of its own civil war insanity unmolested and simultaneously enhanced because of geography. Industrialised technological Warfare paralyses the competitiveness of those combatant Nations and thus results in acceleration of those non-combatant nations whom are still racing to catch up and willing accept a massive increase of migration and inherent demographic advantages that sustained growth that freedom from not engaging upon sacrifice by high explosive, an entire generation of youth enables whilst also if willing to accept the number and diversity of people hoping to enjoy the very same benefits of survival and with it the chance of peace & prosperity in fleeing the very same industrial scale conflict. Nation states of the world that have lapsed into a period of stagnation also benefit as a mitigation of the failure to engage in competition. The strategic blindness from failing to realise this and instead engage upon its own version this time playing the part of the combatant and declining power as a result military adventurism will remain blind for as long as debt failure continues. Only by embracing a more balanced approach to international relations that then lead to a renewed an increased level of strategic clarity and maximise the asymmetric effects that embracing and enhancing allies and partners not formal alliances can it continue to leading in competition with its allies alongside in the lead as failure to do so may only inadvertently and inevitably mislead and thus feed into the narrative of polarity hungrily sought by others for which is their theory and strategy for winning the competition whilst the competitors failed to realise they had already lost. 6. **Regional Challenges and Responses:** - Various challenges, including unresolved territorial disputes and grey-zone activities, demand nuanced responses. - Collaborative initiatives such as the Quad and AUKUS seek to address emerging security threats while avoiding provocative measures. 7. **Taiwan and Escalating Threats:** - The situation concerning Taiwan remains a critical concern, underscoring the importance of strategic foresight and deterrence measures. - Escalating non-kinetic threats highlight the urgency of proactive diplomacy and defense collaboration among like-minded nations. 8. **Conclusion:** - In conclusion, the notion of an Asian NATO is both impractical and undesirable within the Indo-Pacific context. - Instead, embracing a multiplexed approach grounded in cooperation and mutual respect offers a more sustainable path forward for regional security and cooperation. **Final Thoughts:** Addressing the challenges of the Indo-Pacific necessitates innovative and inclusive solutions that transcend conventional alliance structures. By adopting multiplexed arrangements and fostering cooperative relationships, nations can navigate complex geopolitical realities and foster peace and stability in the region. --- Слава Україні! Героям слава! ✌️☮️❤️🇦🇺🍻

    @BWNSPTV@BWNSPTV13 күн бұрын
  • Everyone loves hot tubs, especially China! Called it JAUKUSIS (include India) (jacuzzis)

    @michaelnewman1813@michaelnewman181315 күн бұрын
    • India has shown little interest in leaving the Russian / Chinese sphere of influence - Even as China has had border clashes with India and China backed Myanmar pushing the Rohingya people out into India. The Indians are ... now reluctant to be in an alliance group with the UK and want to forge their own path. It is better to continue trying to ally with countries like Japan, South Korea, maybe even New Zealand and the Philippines...

      @williestyle35@williestyle3513 күн бұрын
  • Not what it was about at all! Indeed in the last month Austraia has already de[lyed six underwater unmanned sub drones, pillar two means a second tier at arms length from tier one abilities.

    @HenriHattar@HenriHattar12 күн бұрын
  • Aukus is more than nuclear submarines. It’s a security treaty that will expand.

    @ColonelJohnmatrix1000@ColonelJohnmatrix100014 күн бұрын
  • Attention can you sort your sound out please it is very low...... Thanks......

    @richardsinclair9449@richardsinclair944915 күн бұрын
  • Yes, expand NATO to include the democracies in the southern hemisphere 🇦🇺💙🎶

    @Arcsurvivor@Arcsurvivor15 күн бұрын
  • Finally

    @lousheehan9825@lousheehan982514 күн бұрын
  • coming up with possible new acronyms for AUKUS does not give the commentator credibility.

    @nni9310@nni931014 күн бұрын
  • South Korea needs to join NATO ASAP !!!

    @KianFloppa@KianFloppa15 күн бұрын
    • My ideal Asian NATO but I’ll call it PTO Pacific Treaty Organization here are the countries that should join: United States🇺🇸, Australia🇦🇺, Bangladesh🇧🇩, Bhutan🇧🇹, Brunei🇧🇳, Cambodia🇰🇭, Fiji🇫🇯, India🇮🇳, Indonesia🇮🇩, Japan🇯🇵, Kazakhstan🇰🇿, Kiribati🇰🇮, Korea🇰🇷, Kyrgyzstan🇰🇬, Laos🇱🇦, Malaysia🇲🇾, The Maldives🇲🇻, Marshall Islands🇲🇭, Micronesia🇫🇲, Mongolia🇲🇳, Nauru🇳🇷, Nepal🇳🇵, Palau🇵🇼, Papa New Guinea🇵🇬, The Philippines🇵🇭, Samoa🇼🇸, Singapore🇸🇬, Solomon Islands🇸🇧, Sri Lanka🇱🇰, Taiwan🇹🇼, Thailand🇹🇭, Tonga🇹🇴, Timor-Leste🇹🇱, Tuvalu🇹🇻, Vanuatu🇻🇺, Vietnam🇻🇳 and New Zealand🇳🇿

      @parkerburrus289@parkerburrus28915 күн бұрын
    • @@parkerburrus289Sri Lanka would be in ITO

      @MrMysto@MrMysto15 күн бұрын
  • An Asian NATO would also mean that Europe would stand with the US to defend Asian countries against China. It would make them think twice before attacking Taiwan.

    @Baschn66@Baschn6615 күн бұрын
    • How would nato defend us if their was a Asia nato?

      @LSmoney215@LSmoney21514 күн бұрын
  • I do not understand why Bharat do not try to join Akus

    @ranji57001@ranji5700114 күн бұрын
  • I thought china and sk are friends

    @arthurblaze3931@arthurblaze39317 күн бұрын
  • Call it asian nato

    @pauldannelachica2388@pauldannelachica238813 күн бұрын
  • Whatever happened to S.E A.T.O?

    @brianearp5234@brianearp523415 күн бұрын
  • My ideal Asian NATO but I’ll call it PTO Pacific Treaty Organization here are the countries that should join: United States🇺🇸, Australia🇦🇺, Bangladesh🇧🇩, Bhutan🇧🇹, Brunei🇧🇳, Cambodia🇰🇭, Fiji🇫🇯, India🇮🇳, Indonesia🇮🇩, Japan🇯🇵, Kazakhstan🇰🇿, Kiribati🇰🇮, Korea🇰🇷, Kyrgyzstan🇰🇬, Laos🇱🇦, Malaysia🇲🇾, The Maldives🇲🇻, Marshall Islands🇲🇭, Micronesia🇫🇲, Mongolia🇲🇳, Nauru🇳🇷, Nepal🇳🇵, Palau🇵🇼, Papa New Guinea🇵🇬, The Philippines🇵🇭, Samoa🇼🇸, Singapore🇸🇬, Solomon Islands🇸🇧, Sri Lanka🇱🇰, Taiwan🇹🇼, Thailand🇹🇭, Tonga🇹🇴, Timor-Leste🇹🇱, Tuvalu🇹🇻, Vanuatu🇻🇺, Vietnam🇻🇳 and New Zealand🇳🇿

    @parkerburrus289@parkerburrus28915 күн бұрын
    • Cambodia and Laos leans more on China. Indonesia can't join because they are always neutral. Malaysia and Thailand are becoming more leaning to China. Only Vietnam and the Philippines, Singapore has existing close US ties.

      @KSmifune@KSmifune15 күн бұрын
    • Cambodia, Laos and Solomon Islands are already in the China camp sadly. Malaysia not far behind.

      @Aussiespirit@Aussiespirit14 күн бұрын
    • ASEAN is not into bloc politics, not even Singapore. Pacific Islander nations mostly also care more about global warming sinking their islands rather than bloc politics. This kind is a dud in SE Asia currently. It is not if US haven’t tried this in the last couple of years. All failed

      @prastagus3@prastagus313 күн бұрын
  • I am south korean. South Korea going against China causes too much economic burden for south korea. It is simple for japan. Not for south korea because of north korea. China did helped to ease conflict between south and north korea. Also South korea depends lots on China economically. Since US China trade war happened China retaliated and added heavy trade tax to Korea for joining(?) US. Korea actually never even fully joined US. But most scary part of this could trigger war between North Korea and South Korea. I don't want both Koreans get killed AGAIN. I won't let Korean war get repeated AGAIN. You might not care. But I care about Korean's life.

    @jieunchoi2256@jieunchoi22564 күн бұрын
  • "what do you want on your bookshelf?" "Ah just fill it with dictionaries."

    @hulkhogan4203@hulkhogan420315 күн бұрын
    • I own 7 dictionaries and 4 thesaurus and yes they fill a shelf and a half. I'm old enough to keep stretching the brain by using dictionaries but also I just can't bear to throw them out 💜

      @bunyipdragon9499@bunyipdragon949915 күн бұрын
  • The country that doesn’t get mentioned in The Pacific is France, which has a huge presence and for which Australia has had significant involvement in defending it. Does France get included, or do we just ignore the ground and sea its controls in The Pacific?

    @seanlander9321@seanlander932115 күн бұрын
  • SATO south Atlantic treaty organisation

    @addepartment@addepartment14 күн бұрын
  • Cold war was between American dictatorship vs soviet freedom

    @marcs5117@marcs51174 күн бұрын
  • A Pacific NATO is a good idea. In addition, the 1st island chain and SCS nations, and US, Australia, India should unit to form an alliance. All are on the same boat.

    @rubylaser8601@rubylaser860115 күн бұрын
  • Welcome aboard...😊

    @kellycutler621@kellycutler62115 күн бұрын
  • South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Israel, the Philippines, Burma, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, Singapore, probably not Mongolia, Vietnam, Laos, Fiji, India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan or Bangladesh. And Indonesia is in Oceania. Certainly not Asian Countries with -s-t-a-n at the end of their names. Except for Kazakhstan. And Kazakhstan, like Turkey, is partially in Europe and can join NATO, even without an alliance for Countries that are not at all in Europe.

    @USStateOfSiberiaGHWBush1992@USStateOfSiberiaGHWBush199212 күн бұрын
  • AUKUS + INDO PACIFIC TREATY ORGANIZATÌON (IPTO) composed of countries like JAPAN, SOUTH KOREA, NEW ZEALAND, SINGAPORE etc...

    @jaimebana-ay6@jaimebana-ay614 күн бұрын
  • Great vid. A new cold war is not a good idea, agree it’s not an idea at all. It’s the reality. And not a good reality.

    @billytheweasel@billytheweasel10 күн бұрын
  • Is a bit like Russia in Ukraine, just let Russia and China have a will not to use any aggression and they wont get any aggression. This presenter does not have a clue with what he has said in that which is unfloding.

    @HenriHattar@HenriHattar12 күн бұрын
  • These developments are really unfortunate. This has all the ear markings of WW2. You have a rising power, then it was Germany and also Russia, wanting to exercise its power and establish itself as a global super by grabbing territory. This caused an arms race and confrontation that eventually lead to a war that killed 80 million people. The threats of territorial gain real in the case of Russia, theoretically in the case of China are causing an arms race that eventually will lead to an all out war. But this war will species ending.

    @jfarm30@jfarm3015 күн бұрын
  • I dont know who is this guy but is he really asking to sing KUmbaya with china instead of taking serious Chinas well know threats? Who is this guy and why Time interview the most ridiculous people? H must by a Corbynist peace and love hippy.

    @D_isco_D_ancer@D_isco_D_ancer15 күн бұрын
  • AUKUS has always been about broad technological development between the three countries. The nuclear submarines was just the first project that rolled out with fanfare.

    @chillxxx241@chillxxx24115 күн бұрын
  • Amazing that for thousands of years, these nations have been variably at peace, at war or in strained alliances. In this sense, nothing is new under the sun.

    @gaslitworldf.melissab2897@gaslitworldf.melissab289715 күн бұрын
  • ANPAT Asian north pacific treaty ?

    @user-mp7nl7nn2c@user-mp7nl7nn2c15 күн бұрын
  • 🌍Total Hybrid Network Warfare🌏

    @radnfo@radnfo15 күн бұрын
  • If you are spending up to 100$ to buy a chinese keyboard from temu then you deserve what you're gonna get...

    @jondoe1622@jondoe162214 күн бұрын
    • Temu keyboard could be less than 10 usd, not 100

      @prastagus3@prastagus313 күн бұрын
    • @@prastagus3 he specifically mentions 100$ not 10.

      @jondoe1622@jondoe162213 күн бұрын
  • if neighbor A has 1000 year history of invading neighbor B and B can kinda get over that because neighbor C is seen as worse that really tells you sth abou the state of affairs of C. Look at US. our nieghbors move here. they may complain but plenty of legal and illegal immigrants leave nice places to give it a go here. In china? dude just took a jetski to make it from china to korea. Let them complain all they want

    @thryce82@thryce8215 күн бұрын
    • I remember hearing about that jetski story in the news. Good thing he didn't veer off course and landed in NK. lol

      @blackbelt2000@blackbelt200010 күн бұрын
  • There's already a 'Nato' in the Pacific. Its called Seato. Why doesn't Japan and South Korea just join that?

    @sunrayuk@sunrayuk15 күн бұрын
    • There is also FPDA. FPDA is regularly exercising. Seato is not. FPDA includes Singapore, Malaysia, Australia, New Zealand and the UK.

      @martinharnevie@martinharnevie15 күн бұрын
  • Pax Americana There is no rising xina actually,

    @vladpootin5973@vladpootin597315 күн бұрын
  • If South Korea joins NATO then Japan will follow and the other smaller Asian countries, especially Taiwan..

    @Siranoxz@Siranoxz14 күн бұрын
    • Tawain has too many ccp spies

      @hlcapa@hlcapa13 күн бұрын
  • Global NATO under US hegemony is good for mankind.

    @cheesecake5236@cheesecake523615 күн бұрын
    • No U.S. hegemony. Each region must have its own leader. Like France in the European sector and Australia or South Korea in the Pacific region.

      @JMK948@JMK94815 күн бұрын
    • ​@@JMK948 If every region had it's own leadership, NATO would cease to exist and Europe would become a national security threat to the US. This would play right into the hands of China and Russia.

      @cheesecake5236@cheesecake523614 күн бұрын
    • @@JMK948 List of Countries the US has Bombed Since the End c WWII (may be incomplete) Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War) Guatemala 1954, 1960 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-61 Vietnam 1961-73 Laos 1964-73 Belgian Congo 1964 Dominican Republic 1965--66 Peru 1965 Guatemala 1967-1969 Cambodia 1969-1970 Nicaragua 198OS El Salvador 1980s Lebanon 1982-84 Grenada 1983 Lebanon 1983, J 1984 (Lebanese, Syrian targets) Iran 1987 Panama 1989 Iraq 1991 (First Gulf War); 1991- 2003 (US/UK "NO Fly Zone") Kuwait 1991 Somalia 1992--94; 2007 Bosnia 1994-1995 Iran 1997 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia 1999 Afghanistan 2001--ongoing Iraq 2003 (Second War--more recently predator drones) Yemen 2002, 2009 Libya 1986, 2011

      @zacksmith5963@zacksmith5963Күн бұрын
  • Likely too little too late. 😢America probably will not be a sovereign country much longer.

    @afathersdevotions@afathersdevotions15 күн бұрын
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