Brexit, dissidents and the Irish border - BBC Newsnight
2018 ж. 14 Мам.
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Veteran BBC journalist Peter Taylor talks to dissident republicans and Northern Ireland's top policeman about Brexit and what its consequences could mean for Northern Ireland.
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some shop in northern ireland is doing great business on sunglasses all of a sudden
Yes, ex 1970's stock @ £1 each or two for £1.50. They are providing marching lessons from the spastics society.
They look stylish
And the old British army fatigues 🙂
@@joedixon8646 I can’t imagine living my life hating someone that I have never met . Maybe I should try hating all Irish because of a few plebs .
Very top gun!
I have been to Belfast a number of times however my last visit was purely a family break for 5 days in 2018 and it was wonderful. The city is full of warm and welcoming people in every corner. A fascinating booking I made was to do the political tour. Our driver was an absolute diamond of a man and to hear his story and the story of the troubles and going into both loyalist and republican area's was something that made the hairs stand on end. He is one of the vast majority that want nothing but peace, he told me that loyalist and republican ex paramilitary drivers sit in the same rank, they talk to each other, they laugh with each other, they support each other. He eats his cooked breakfast every morning in a staunchly loyalist area and as a catholic he can do with no fear. The conflict was horrific with atrocities committed by both sides. It is not something to be glorified or accepted ever again. One last thing to say is that our drivers Mother in law and Brother in law were both killed in the conflict, but even after this his wife wants no more fighting and has forgiven. Now that is the true strength to admire in my view.
Or you could go south where there’s no religious conflict at all.
Thanks for the “I just read a book about The Troubles and saw I Delours” assessment there friend. Surface shit.
The Catholic taxi drivers have been recorded secretly and they spout lies and deceit about what actually happened... it was loyalists that started it bla bla bla.
My dad went to Belfast in 1970's on business, a different place then🤔
@@ToldAlthea Hello Coco. Mind and get back to the circus before they report you missing 🤡
The BBC likes creating hassle in northern Ireland. Well done Hall and Patten!!
Tom Hermens it’s got a lot of previous
Mmmmmmm... burn the witch ... Who comes up with this pish ..
Bbc are shit
Yes very much so.
This is a load of bollocks
Not sure how British propaganda is helping the situation. We all saw how "unbiased" the BBC were with the Scottish Independence referendum.
Facts, another reason why i will not pay for a tv license to those Jimmy Saville fuckers
@Ian Murray yeah and how does it matter rn? we'll see how they'll vote next time with that brexit bullshit
and how long would scotland last without westminster . half the country would empty in the first 6 months . they dont get anywhere near enough in taxes to keep the millions of its residents . i love the scots but they need westminster .
Phil Driver Sorry but we don’t need Westminster, Scotland is now a far different type of country compared to the rest of the United Kingdom, Were part of a democracy where we don’t really get a say on anything, every constituency in Scotland voted to remain in the European Union, we voted against Independence in 2014 with one of the unions strongest arguments being if we voted to leave the union we would lose our EU membership, Westminster has rained poverty down on Scotland, Universal Credit harms Scotland massively, we also saw west minister try to grab back powers devolved to Scotland, Scotland are better outside the Union, the union is not got long left it will end one day soon probably in my opinion, it would be soo good for all 4 countries to be independent but the closest of allies, the union doesn’t work anymore, Brexit shows all countries think differently, Independent Scotland, England and Wales with a united Ireland and being the closest of allies, thats what the future should be and will most likely be, another note Scotland’s population is small due to us not having the land mass that are habitable to live, we need immigration to fill jobs and make a contribution to our society, England are more against Immigration because yous have a large population, yous have land that is good enough for people to live, The union should end, we will all be better off on our own. 🏴🏴🇨🇮🏴
Ian Murray how is it not his business? he can have an opinion on it if he wishes just like you do
Looks like someone left the gate open at the divie farm!
And let all the loyalists out
Please don’t compare Scotland to Ireland’s situation there is NO comparison.
The comparison that is true is the bigoted Scottish Protestants are even more full of hatred for Catholics than the northern irish Protestants.
@@Mysteriefemale how do lol do u have walls dividing estates and car bombs going off every month and riots no...
fish-cloud that’s a different level of social class. I’m not affiliated with.
John Carroll we all think Scotland is like ireland, I did. Until I met some bigoted orange scots loyal to the queen. I was astonished at the aggression and hatred towards the irish. I thought they loved us?? Not so.
Harold Turkeypants o gosh this is appalling, surely it’s illegal? Can they not be charged with racism and abusive threatening behavior?
Its incredible how innocent this fake documentary makes the UK seem.
Booooooooorrrrring.......get over it!!!!!
@@richteehee genocide denier
@@ClearPathBeats you talk shit wee johnnie boy
@@richteehee lay off the heroin rangers fan
@@ClearPathBeats Go back to Dublin you fenian bastard.
Has the BBC ever explained why it allows comments on some videos and not others? Almost like they want to tell us what stories we're allowed to discuss/have opinions on and which ones we have to just accept what they say and not have an opinion on it.
The BBC is an unelected one-party state with its own Thought Police.
Well ,he that pays the Piper,calls the Tune..Never changes,Lol☺
Jimmy saville sagged all the sheep.
Just like RTE & Network 2 when i was growing up & NBC but mainly CNN who are openly a political arm of left wing politicians.BBC were guiding the narrative along with, depending where you're watching from, UTV, ITN, ITV. We had ITV when visiting Dublin but ITN which was the same by a different name in the north.
To generate hate
So we're angry at them for wanting their own country back
We're angry at them for blowing up and shooting innocent people. Northern Ireland isn't theirs anyway. A clearly different national identity exists there in the protestant community. The rest they already have.
spencer, so the British soldiers haven't is what your saying
spencer a very naive view of history you have 😂😂 I suggest you educate yourself
tj o Ireland isn't a continent
spencer the UVF prods killed far more innocent civilians. And they’re also the minority now
Sigh .. it’s not the Irish border .. it’s the British border in Ireland.
No 32 yet is there numb nuts...
@@richteehee so, you call yourself after a sad, dry, boring biscuit and I’m the numb nuts.
Why is England even still in Northern Ireland?
I think you mean Britain
@@kingslickster9841 do tell me what's the difference between Britain and England lol
@@theoyancey England makes up one of the 4 Kingdoms of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The other 3 being Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland........lol
@@kingslickster9841 yea got that but England runs northern Ireland and Britain to the rest of the world is England
King Slickster 3 kingdom not 4 Wales is in the kingdom of England 🏴
Very one-sided report. Did I miss any mention of the UVA, UDA, UFF ot the UDR?
@@deandunlop9360 very bigoted of you ah well united irelands coming chara just you wait
They aren't worth a mention, they are no threat to anyone they're just drug dealers.
@@deandunlop9360 lay off the heroin rangers fan
right ??
Truth hurts.
That marching though 😂
lol
@p 12 Er. Not really! They just bombed a bunch of innocents and then had a referendum.
A veteran Gay pride with shite running Down their legs for proof
Marching 👀👀 😂😂😂😂
Ireland must be super sunny!
Sunnier than the N.I for sure..I mean -2 in Belfast,+4 in Dublin..In winter we probably have no Snow or Flooding.2021 was an exception
It’s quite easy to remember the number of Easter Day parades you have filmed. I’m guessing one every year you attended.
This is like operating systems marketing. Old IRA, New IRA, continuity IRA, Real IRA, Provisional IRA, and countless variations on the theme. It is chilling to see Adams bluntly tell the new IRA to go away in a blunt and clear way. The Northerners can be very blunt and clear in their political discourse.
Windows 95 Windows vista Windows XP Windows 7 Windows 8.1 Windows 10 Sooo no... Not quite.
Eventually there will be I cant believe its not IRA.
As a brit just an ordinary person i find it sad people still want to kill each other my pal at school came from belfast bombed out of their house he now.only livez down the lane from me I think the killing will never stop i hate no one lifes to short for hate Ill say a prayer for you all and pray for peace God bless you all
@Bill Day im well aware sir
Wow.. Captain Mannering would be proud of those fearsome warriors
The average British person would rather have Ireland run by the Irish, we would all be better off as friends. The good Friday agreement would then be obsolete. It's the establishment who feeds this fire.
Fact is at this stage that ROI doesn't really want NI. It's a bit like South Koreans who say they'd "love a united Korea", but don't really mean it. It's really the UK's problem.
2m folk who live in NI might take exceptional to your statement.
The average British person couldn't give two hoots. They don't know or care and however you may disapprove they have the freedom and a perfect right to do so.
@@BrianMcGuirkBMG I'm British and that's not true. The "average British person" knows we have no fucking business there and never did. The fact that we've caused so much trouble on that Island is an ongoing source of shame to any decent person.
People in the republic are wealthier, on average live longer, are better educated and have a better quality of life.
Dean Eireann You have a relatively decent looking political landscape with people who seem like they give a shit. It's not surprising to me that your quality of life is much much better than ours.
BdaMonkey the unionists like to call the republic backwards, hence me pointing this out. 😂
Dean Eireann The unionists are thick fucks then!
Dean Eireann you should be a stand up comedian, cause everyone’s laughing at you anyway.
And a government who don't expect huge corporations to pay tax, a pretty atrocious homelessness problem whilst there's thousands upon thousands of empty homes from the construction bubble. There's no such thing as utopia.
Look at the state of them. Like the Irish parolympic paintball team LOL.
Ale głupi właśnie teraz na moim monitorze, Finlandia-Ukraina-Rosja 1939/2021 rok! 8:30 history repeating itself again and again in cycles!
@@kazundogouda1786 English. Know one speaks that shit?
That marching tho lol
Peter Taylor is a legend.
Flag barriers walk like they've shat themselves
😂🤣🤣
It's running down their legs llf
Don't you mean bearers ya prick \o/ TAL
Drew 420x remember your normal Irish republican is used to shiteing themselves
@@09weenic I Ran Away from the battle but I am a hero. That's what they tell themselves lol
As an Irishman may I say these wasters were still causing trouble when we both were eu members
I'm British, I spent much of my life sympathetic to the loyalists however now I support reunification, i feel for the Irish and what they've been through.
Wall Yoof Oh you poor soul. Your reign is over. Now the dark cloud is coming for your tiny overcrowded state you call a country. Your people claimed to have conquered every county on earth. Now you must suffer the side effect of mass migration. He comes 5 million Chinese and 15 million Indian and 2 million Pakistanis.
BurritoWarrior As an American we see you will be a minority in your tiny infertile state. Here comes the world by your door step.
BurritoWarrior The Irish must be free. We love freedom.
@Wall Yoof That's why we need to stop brexit, as that means more 3rd world Islamists moving to the UK instead of rich white Christians from Europe.
Thank you , Dublin EIRE.
“Sayru” it’s pronounced seera
Pronounced Sarah.
It’s pronounced taig bastard
@@matthewpepper1548 Yawn.
I think we need to stop the collective denial. The problems in Ireland are entirely of our own making. How would we respond to an occupation by an external force, annexation, massive population transfers in an effort to dilute the indigenous populations (as socio-political constructs matured this culminated in gerrymandering in the 1960s)? The economic favouritism was the one of the main cooperative causes of "The Troubles". The list of crimes that Britain committed in Ireland is difficult to outline even. We should apologise, starting with the BBC, and offer them a chance to choose their own path. The unionists can remain British nationals, and I think the Republic should offer them a path to citizenship as well, but I think NI should secede from the union. If it weren't for what is tantamount to gerrymandering the vote would overwhelming favour NI rejoining the republic. And I say this as an English person from the North East of England.
Northern Ireland Unionists already have a right to Irish citizenship. Some have taken it up, obtaining Irish passports so as to be able to travel freely in the EU after Brexit. Under the Good Friday/Belfast agreement, neither the UK nor the Republic have any claim on NI. Its destiny is in the hands of the people who live there. Once the full impact of Brexit hits home and Nationalists become a majority there in the next decade, who knows what will happen. Irish Nationalism south of the border is capable of accommodating Ulster Unionists these days, but its up to them.
And yet, only the UK is leaving...at the behest of the English voter.
rudiger exactly did you know Northern Ireland still has the highest levels of terrorism in Western Europe according to mi5 and also the discrimination remains in 2018 Catholics are 50% more likely to be unemployed than Protestants despite the fact Catholics have and continue to outperform them in education
Rudiger Well said, mate. Unfortunately, as can be seen from the attitude of the post above mine, the planters don't even understand the word compromise. They are the most pig-ignorant and stubborn cunts you will ever encounter. So much so that I wouldn't even bother my arse addressing him directly.
Thanks mate. Yeah there is no point in addressing a comment like that directly.
This whole issue will be moot in a few years time thanks to Brexit. Funny that the Tories have accomplished more for Irish unification in one referendum than Sinn Fein has in over 100 years.
Karma, baby)
this hasnt aged well
@Alex Mulvihill you think the Tories brought unification back here?
bet your one of the inbred unemployed that hasn't even travelled
The Tories don't give a shit about Northern Ireland. Look how they stabbed the DUP in the back. Northern Ireland costs the British taxpayer slot of money and most Brits would like to see the back of it. It's like an anchor weighing Britain down. I'm sure Boris Johnson feels the same way, he just hides it though.
They sure love their british uniforms.
Love how they hate the British but they are wearing British army smocks
Just love how we have band uniforms but they have military uniforms on plus It's British army surplus bdu uniform
there was a tri colour on their uniform but supporting violence in this day and age is stupid. A peaceful vote on reunification of our great country ireland will be a better outcome that bombing and shooting
@Stig Martin look buddy i will agree to disagree with you
@@johnjames5587 they sewed a flag onto their army surplus uniforms. The uniforms are old British Army uniforms from the 80s and 90s. They could have least put some effort in and gotten Irish Army surplus uniforms.
@@johnjames5587 no killing terrorist is easy.
A United Ireland is inevitable it's Ireland's destiny to be United. all 32 counties belong to the Irish
You would think , people would be looking forward instead of backwards!!!!!,so sad and stupid how dare you try and bring back that way of life again,shame on you and the coward's that keep trying to destroy lives !!!!
No they don't, thicket!
sean header fuck you ya rat
not whilst we are living up here. Come and remove us first.
I agree it is inevitable given the population demographics and growth of the Catholic Population.
The dude with the flag walked like he’d shit he’s pants
I'm glad they look more than a little silly.
Mi 5 is well entrenched in all common wealth armies I think
I live in Guernsey which is a long way but I find this film disturbing and frightening with my thoughts of what I watched on the news when growing up. God if you really exist please help the peaceful and innocent people of Northern Ireland 🙏
England tried to oppress the Irish people so Ireland created the Irish Republican Army. If England had of stayed home none of this would have ever happened
I've lived there all my life and the north of Irelands society is poisioned, people can't let go or move on and will go on for generations sadly...
I must have missed this episode of Brass Eye the first time around.
It looks like the whealdstone raider in the thumb nail pic, all dressed up😂
United Ireland simple
You cannot fully understand the situation if you think anything about this is "simple".
United Kingdoms, even simpler.
fuck me you probs dont lnow what this is all about you fucking idiot the ira are terrorists and people say the uda and uvf are protection which is true but they have ira to protect but the uda protect due to the ira killing prods and innocent people
Under British rule you mean.
@@piperjj4486 How about within the Commonwealth?
Here we go again!
That's just what I thought in 1968!
mc 74 Two actually they've quite a lot of support in the north and they're a lot more disciplined,better armed and politically aware than the edl
khankrum1 it never really ended Northern Ireland still has the highest level of terrorism of anywhere in Europe according to mi5 last year
mc 74 Two the psni still carry out armed patrols and anyway the provos had little public support as well but the British army on the streets only increased that support
mc 74 Two actually the psni are far more armed than any other police force in the uk or Western Europe
One thing not addressed: How will they avoid the hard border?
when you deny a portion of the population from employment you have unrest and the Brits have a rich history of doing so
There is no employment bias today.
Oh I just want to add-remember when Scotland was told the only way to stay to in the EU was to vote NO to leaving the U.K. yet a couple years later we are leaving the EU and Scotland had been stabbed in the back as well as this problem in Ireland. Damn Westminster to hell
@What? We were lied to on a huge issue and your telling me to grow up? I think you need to look at yourself
Never forget that King Billy was backed by the Pope and the Catholic King of Spain.
Whatever became of the Queens University student who went through the pay records of the Boyne & found many Protestants fought with James & many Catholics fought for William? The battle was later propagandised by the English (Scotland wasn't yet in the Union)
@Straight White British Protestant Oh aye, there ye go, the New Glasgow F.C.: "Celtic Rangers"
And wanted to give ireland back to the Irish
@@johngateley I learned that the 'battle' site of the battle has got hardly any lead shot in or around it...
The Spanish were the only support Ireland had
Who taught them how to march like THAT?!
The gays
Nobody taught them to march obviously ,anyway for a lot of blind people they do ok!😎
You would have thought they'd have at least one bod amongst them that could shape a beret
@Wish Hart that's very true, the shades are a nice touch...very Miami vice
What a fine fighting army. Pity they didn't fight during WW2. Ireland remained neutral whilst the majority of others fought for the freedoms we have today.
Plenty of countries didn’t fight. I don’t see any of your criticism going their way.
Why not give the people of NI a vote on whether they want to stay in the UK (probably resulting in a hard border) or become part of a united Ireland and remain in the EU? While the latter would result in the end of the UK (not GB), it will end a long-term ongoing issue.
The UK is the union between Scotland and England, if N. Ireland left it would still be the UK.
Jb Technically it would stop being the United Kingdom of Great Britain and (Norhtern) Ireland, and just be the United Kingdom of Great Britain.
Mike Cap why not let Ireland have another vote on the Lisbon treaty? Oh wait it doesn't matter if they vote no or yes they will get it anyway..and that's exactly what happened..the eu fucked Ireland over and now the eu want to fuck Ireland up with an unwinnable situation with an unbeatable "enemy" ie Britain. The eu is Irelands enemy
@William Doubleu no they didn’t William, you’re talking shit again
I know it's probably the easiest and cheapest gear to get a hold off but you think they'd wear camouflage kit that's not British Army?
On my recent travels to NI before COVID and all the recent restrictions I noticed a lot of Army surplus shops in the towns I passed through in my travels. It appears that the British Army sell off their surplus and no longer required kit to commercial traders to do with what they will. I hope there are restrictions on Uniform buttons or the like or the way is wide open for impersonation and ruses for Criminal ends. As far as I know only a small and specialised trade in Police or Army uniforms is allowed in the Republic to theatrical and film production concerns and not to the general public. This is due to several attempts by Drug criminals and the like to organise assassinations dressed up as Police or Soldiers. Foreign uniforms, most notably from the former East German State, used to be sold here and were a fashion item for a while in the early 90's.
Having parents, Grand parents and friends on both sides of the divide I understand the real issues involved in the issue that the people of Both north and south of the border face. I must admit that I am sentimental to the views of the south, though I would not agree with the violence that they, and must me said from the north and British government, displayed in the height of the troubles. This complex issue the people find themselves in is deeply concerning given that the long term solution to it is embroiled in the wishes of both militants from the north and the south, not forgetting the British military might also. Being a Christian, I absolutely refute the use of God in any of the divisions on all sides. God is Love and sadly we see very little of that. I pray that time heals and that God intervenes not the Gun from all sides. Amen
So much for Gerry Adams. He's ignored by his erstwhile comrades. Yesterdays man.
Thank goodness I live in New Zealand. *FAR FAR AWAY* from other Nations problems. 👍👍👍
UNSC INFINITY tell that to the people of Christchurch.....
Not really an appropriate comment.
Your Queen your problem.
What about the Maoris ,give them back their country 😀
Old IRA - Official IRA - Continuity IRA - Provisional IRA - Real IRA - New IRA - New Old IRA - Old New IRA - Official Old IRA - Unofficial IRA - IRA 2: Electric Boogaloo - Somewhat IRA - English IRA - ?
And yet they still fight each other lol!
It’s ground hog day IRA , it’s a dead society now.
"Dissidents" by Englands point of view. Simply Republicans by Irish point of view. Being that this video was shot by the BBC.....I was kind of expecting a bias...hahaha.
Also dissidents from the broad Republican Movement's pov.
Well people who want to break away from the country are by definition dissidents.
Love the British Army Stock Uniforms and Boots.. and Berets xD
Since when did the British army wear black berets?
@@stevenmcalister826 Berets come in all colours, depends on the regiment/corps mate, Royal Tank Regiment wear black berets for instance!
@@CallsignPeaches175 Damn what was I thinking? Of course. The Royal Tank regiment! Everyone knows they have a copyright over black berets and anyone who uses them is a royal tank regiment impersonator. Regardless, this group isn’t a threat and never has been. But you know who is, especially now because of the sea border? Loyalist paramilitaries.
Army cadets have black berets
No war in Northern Ireland, please. Thank you! ...
Why do the media put the troubles & give it a title it's a (war) a war is 2 sides which contains armoured vehicles, face to face with the enemy, not snipers or nighthawk shootings it all comes down to money nothing else
Convenient neglect of British supporting paramilitary/dissident groups who still create problems.
ElleBee Adams said the republicans don't intend to make any trouble,who's getting in the way, ...Blair?
People who watch this and ignore the fact that you are fighting for a part of Britain are more deluded than most. We will never surrender our British rights and NI will always remain apart of Britain 🇬🇧
United Ireland 🇮🇪💪🇮🇪💪
The narrator could at least have learned how to pronounce their name !
Gas innit? In fairness to him, that's how THEY must have told him to pronounce it - Paul Duffy, at about 7:25-7:30, pronounces it that way too. Duffy can't even pronounce HIS OWN GROUP'S NAME! XD
Is it even a word? I imagine it should be pronounced 'sayra' but I never heard that word in any Irish text book I ever studied.
Yeah my Gaeilgeoir fiancé says that the closest English approximation of the word would be the noun 'release' or 'relief'...so it could be, generously translated, 'liberation'.
Sebastian Clare Well Saor ( pronounced seer) means free. Saoirse ( pronounced seershuh) means Freedom.... Now have a stab at what Saoradh means.
No need to be sarky, mate. I just said what Saoradh approximately translates as, so I don't know why you're coming in here with such aggro. Also, Saor is, in fact, pronounced 'sare' - as in, replace the 'h' in 'hare' with an 's'. You're welcome.
What a strange spectacle ... Old stock British army kit, aviator sun glasses and ‘marching’ like they’ve shit their pants🤭
I love their puffy unformed berets. Just makes it so much better lol
@@michaelboyle1805 All worn at different angles !
Solidarity with free Irish people
TheVanguard55 Ireland for Ireland 🇮🇪 Up the boys! I’m English
TheVanguard55 fucking idiot
Scrap the BBC licence fee.
"go home Gerry" 😂😂
Duffy lying threw his teeth him and Colin are up to there necks in it
God Bless You All
There's no desire for this...none of us want a return to the old days.
Some dumbasses do though, thats the sad thing
I was born in the Dublin street where the loyal drums do best and the loving English feet tramp all over us and every single night when my farther came home tight he’d invite the neibours outside with this chorus
ah come ou ye black and tans
@@aughanure1 heard you had a hard time with them ? And we didn't even no we had them lmao
Can't spell....
Nice of the BBC to give this tiny minority of the community with little to no support a nice long segment in their programme and plenty of time to spout their hateful rhetoric.
Which one is Frank Spencer?
Confined to history like Remembrance Day in London?
If they're pronouncing it that way, they're wrong. 'SAORADH' would be pronounced the same as 'Sarah' as Béarla.
That's what I thought, it is perhaps a dialect variation in the northern pronouciation or they really pronouncing it wrong
in Scots its 'soorag' ..innteannach
Sira Mea well Donegal Irish is quite different to southern dialects to be fair
colin minhinnick is that the British armies nickname now? Used to be murdering scum
It is like going back in time. Heartbreaking for all the families scarred already by the Conflicts past, to have that wound opened after believing no more communities would be maimed this way. This was not understood when we were given a vote to leave the EU.
I'm still not sure it's understood now. Northern Ireland politics is currently a basketcase, with responsibility on both sides. The devolved NI executive, which has been down for 18 months, will certainly not be restored until Brexit is over. If there's a border, you might as well give us on power-sharing altogether.
If there's a border, I think power-sharing will go right out the window. Imagine what that will do for the NIRA then.
A perennial state of war exists between Ireland and England and will continue to exist while our right to national sovereignty remains suppressed.
I disagree that there is a perennial state of war between Eira and the UK (not England, please get it right). And the last time there was a vote the North voted to remain in the UK. However, things have moved on and I believe that there should be a democratic vote for the people of NI as to whether they want to remain in the UK or join with the Republic and stay in the EU. The former may result in a hard border, the latter a united Ireland.
Ireland is an ancient and historic nation with a distinctive Gaelic heritage and culture. 'Northern Ireland' is a statelet which was artificially created by the English Government in 1920 as means to further sow division amongst the Irish people, as they have been attempting to do for hundreds of years.
I'd be interested to know the extent of political and economic integration in Northern Ireland which apart from identity politics, would constitute real grievances. I'd hope that Brexit would offer a democratic route to unification if it was what the people want rather than senseless violence.
The cheek of that old policeman to call people terrorist after what the British did to Ireland who does he think he is he's in your no traitor
The world is getting mad 😡
ahmed zaki The world is mad. It was a lot madder for a lot longer. It's only been in the last few centuries that a little sanity has prevailed. When I see a bunch of guys in berets and sunglasses marching 'hup and down the square!' I look at 'em and wonder what they'd be doing if not this. Not much. Maybe they'd be in the pub. Maybe prison.
Nx Doyle doing what they’ve always done, They’d be a part of their own community, which they already are, You’re acting like the dissident groups pay their volunteers a wage, The clue is in the term “volunteer”
Sunglasses in Ireland, now that is funny
WITH YOU
dmck You assume, you use the word volunteer, then you give me the so-called clue with a word that I never said. Not the smartest rhetorical device.
That get up though lol ! Aviators with a beret and a shamagh scarf, they look like something from a right said fred video .
😂😂
give us Irish the same tools use brits have, tanks, bombs, personal numbers etc... us Irish would of slapped use back to England... for a second time.
@@relentless1989 looks like you had plenty of "TOOLS" in this video though, You inbred shite.
@@relentless1989 you've had 800 years to do it and we're still waiting...... ya balloon
@@relentless1989 still waiting on the first time. The sfira were beat!!!
The bbc are no longer rust worthy
These are the people who call unionists, sectarian bigots !
Maybe we should teach them how to march and then they might gain a gram of respect.
Was thinking the same lol look like kids learning to march.
The peaceful people of Ireland need to stop any rise of groups like these, who are looking at conflict as an answer. Too much pain has been before, too much blood spilled, too many tears. Ireland is a beautiful place, with beautiful people. Don't let those with hate and violent intentions grow their voice and return the past troubles.
Trouble is that unless they actually do something substantially violent and illegal, something more than parades and expression of a particular viewpoint, you cause more trouble and more public support for such extreme views by attempting to suppress them with State sanctioned violence either by Police or Army. The effect is to legitimise an extreme or marginal viewpoint by making martyrs out of these people. Irish people are probably different to other countries in that a jail sentence or other State sanction can be seen as a badge of honour instead of being a stigma or source of shame as it would be in other less divided communities especially if the motive for an offence is political.
I do't think that will happen as long as the protestants and the Catholic's disagree
then the brits need to stop the army killing people.
Is this footage from 20 years ago? coz if not this is like groundhog day.
As an Irish person, I have to say that these extremists do not represent the majority of people in my country. The 1998 peace agreement guarantees that if the majority of people in Northern Ireland want a United Ireland, then it will happen. This agreement is Internationally recognised and legally binding. It has led to over 20 years of peace on the island, and now, due to changing demographics in the North, it is most likely that it will soon lead to a United Ireland. This means that this kind of militant Republicanism has no excuse to exist any more, as it has nothing left to achieve. This will be especially true after a United Ireland comes to fruition, but you can be guaranteed these particular inner city youths will still have an excuse of some form or another by then to continue their activities. I think the issue here is not a matter of National sovereignty, and more an issue of unemployed youths in this inner city area with nothing to do, with boredom leading them down the path of militarism. I think it’s fair to say that if these guys weren’t in a republican organisation they would likely be in a criminal gang, or a neo-nazi , fascist or Communist groups like comparable inner city youths in continental Europe
They broke the terms of the agreement with brexit .
lone wolf im afraid that’s untrue, the Brexit deal allows Northern Ireland to become part of the rest of Ireland and the EU in a much more streamlined way due to a condition demanded by Enda Kenny to Michel Barnier for Northern Ireland to have similar mechanisms for unification as East Germany had, so no, the agreement has not been broken, but it was pushed to the limit for a period of time during negotiations. All that has been cleared up though
@arfer minute just not true though is it. You know yourself
Your a traitor
@@aleistercrowley1644 you literally proved my point
Gerry Adams gets a good salary from the English. He doesnt want to Irish unification
jan jansen you realise he's a TD in the Republic and not in Westminster right???
Gerry Adams hasn’t been an MP since 2011 and he never took his seat in the House of Commons when he was an MP
@john moore SF will dissolve eventually? How have you figured that out?
I can envision the boot being on the other foot if Northern Ireland is unified with the Republic. The fighting will never end.
Joe Turner Exactly... That's why they need to go back where they came from and I say that as a NI citizen !!
Ellie 26: Please define 'go back where they came from' . Do you mean these people specifically, or people should return to the place of their ancestors? If the former, I thought these people already were where they came from, they just have a strange perspective for the age we live in. If the latter, my ancestors come from so many different places I might just as well stay where I am. And if KZhead is to be believed, the Irish are going to have to move to Egypt. It was probably you lot who built the Pyramids anyway. Paddy and the bricks is a really old song.
Joe Turner No just they few fuelling the hate here again.. It's not wanted here anymore, it's time to move on with the rest of the world!
Ulster has been Dal Riata (Scottish) since oh..1500 years. And NI/Lowland scotland are a distinct genetic group at least 500 years old.
it's only a matter of time before our little country is one again,we know how to wait.
not in your lifetime Bucko .
Neverrrrr!!!
Then you can hand it to the German led EU based in Brussels, that DICTATE your laws, borders, money, courts, you even gave up your own currency, SOME INDEPENDENCE thst is, hahahaha
NI is OURS (UK), lol
close to a paramilitary display? How does a paramilitary display look then?
32 County Ireland ruled by the Irish 🇮🇪
@THE LUCKE CHARMER up the ra fuck the uda and udf 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪all add me on sc kmolloy505
@our rights first ya sure it wasn't go on home British bastard s go on home have u got no fuk n home of your own
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Day dream beliver
“Most of the dissidents’ victims are from within their own community.”
I live in the UK and want to live in Ireland. Any tips on where I need to look at.
move to northern ireland and wait a while
Limerick
No where south or Catholic areas. They hated the Brits. Go to a Protestant, British area and you will be welcomed wholeheartedly. 😊
@@h.m.b.s.5747 Valerie stop talking shite. We do not give a crap what religion anyone is in the Republic. That's the little hate filled bubble you live in. It was never an issue down South only the sectarian dump you live in.
@@barryb90 your full of it. Cold place for Protestants still. Spat on the street etc when the hear the accent. Comments made. Drug wars etc. Its a dump and going down the pan.
What about the UDA and UVF?
I love how the English always use their language to talk about "their" possessions and mock their subjects language at every chance they get.
I love how people set up fake accounts online to stir up shit. You are fucking disgusting multi account, same ip address twat.
You mean "British".
go and eat Bobby sands empty body
Sure that's what they do best, try and claim things that don't belong to them.
Éirinn go Brách
Its Ironic, such a display would not be allowed in Ireland - as uniformed political parties / expressions have not been allowed in Ireland since the 1930's....
They marched in Dublin and Cork over Easter, in uniform.
I demand an independent Wessex
Mercia uber alles!!!
Please NI, keep it together, you’re great people and I’d hate things to turn nasty all over again xxx
Britain should leave Ireland for good. There would have been peace centuries ago had they left. If Britain invaded France it would cause conflict there also.
@Straight White British Protestant Northern Ireland has a predominantly British population because the Scottish British Loyalist people invaded Ulster and took over by the use of vicious violent warfare murdering thousands of native Irish people and have been murdering native Irish people ever since. "The Glenanne Gang" were entirely serving RUC officers and serving UDR soldiers. They murdered 120 native Irish Catholic people with the full backing of the British State who are still actively covering up this and all the other murder gangs they backed. Remember John Stalker? A British police officer sent in to investigate the RUC no warning shoot to kill practice and the RUC with the help of other British police blackened Stalker's name and had the investigation closed down. And you finish your propaganda rant with the threat to send our "entire island.... up in flames". It's you people who are forcing people against their will to accept unjust foreign rule!
@Straight White British Protestant Aye arrested and some given a suspended sentence for multiple murder and the rest let off the hook entirely
Because the majority in Nth Ireland want to stay british and see themselves as British. Protestant north Catholic south
@@brianmccarthy5657 so what's the answer the. Please provide an anseer rather than what we all know to date. If not for the sake of no more killings of innocents like the the Miami Show band by uvf and innocents in Omagh by IRA. Not acceptable to sponsor terrorism of any faction.
Boy Racer. You want the British out but do you still want all honour British benefits or will the south keep you in the lap of luxury that you have now?.
Is the name of this marching style 'Sergeant I've shit my pants'?
It's all gone to my boots.
They love a march in Belfast.