Exceptionalism: An Infantile Disorder | Ray McGovern
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Ray came to Washington from his native Bronx in the early Sixties as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and then served as a CIA analyst for 27 years, from the administration of John F. Kennedy to that of George H. W. Bush. Ray’s duties included chairing National Intelligence Estimates and preparing the President’s Daily Brief, which he briefed one-on-one to President Ronald Reagan’s five most senior national security advisers from 1981 to 1985.
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Actually gutless Blinken didn’t dare to say anything to Wang or Xi. He listened like a mouse but afterwards in his press conference he blew up his ego & pontificated like a hawk! Pathetic indeed!
On his first visit to Israel, Blinken said "I come here as a Jew" not as the Secretary of State for the United States.
@@Jean-rg4sp Well, the three Wisemen were Persians, it was Jesus’ own followers that handed down the death sentence, the Romans just carried it out. That would be you Blinken.
He should have said Israeli, which he is.
@@genrcflyer Jesus was the son of a carpenter AND a Palestinian Jew. We can discuss this.
@@genrcflyer ding...ding..ding...we have a winna!!
Exceptionalism in the US would be funny but people are dying because of it for decades mostly abroad
Fascist economics and attitudes are never funny. The bite back has created a generation of woke racists who are eliminating whites 😢
It’s also used as a way to manufacture consent for war. I’m an American living in Thailand and I hear all the time from fellow Americans how great they are, best, number one. Insufferable and delusional
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@lesliestenta3084 I just returned from Vietnam to the States. While there a Canadian told me that Vietnamese were "backwards" because she didn't get the service she was uses to in Canada. I had to bite my tongue to prevent creating a scene.
It's very Sad. However, if you are not North American there is a magic phrase that will get you warm hugs, and insistence of free accommodation, introductions to the locals, they will pay to take you to their best restaurants, and insist on treating you to their best liquors and most beautiful secret, unspoiled locations. That phrase being: "we had to come through the US to get to here. Damn! I can't stand Americans, they are so slow witted and ignorant!". I discovered this by accident while taking my World Cup mountain bike team on a world cup series tour.
Mr McGovern is one the best analysts Thanks for have him again in your program
I agree. Ray McGovern completely assembled the jigsaw puzzle. I had some of the pieces but didn't really know how they all went together. He ought to be the next Secretary of State.
@@panglayman5576 President Trump will not appoint Ray McGovern as Secretary of State. Sorry.
He will most likely put Blinken back in, he is so smart!
The term "American Exceptionalism" first appeared ( in English ) from the American Communist Party. The concept ( if not the term ) originated with none other than Karl Marx ( himself ). He meant that violent revolution ( insurrection ? ) might not be necessary because of American democracy. I think it's funny how the phrase has migrated to the right ( and nobody seems to know it ).
@@johnteets2921 It's also funny that the 'Left' has migrated to the right and many people have not noticed.
Ray McGovern is brilliant & honorable!
Now he is.
A truthseeker embraces all points of view. A narcissist is a selective listener.
Blinken, if not so awful, would be a laughing stock. Diplomacy is unknown in the West and there is a lot to be learned from Chinese and Russian diplomacy and international relations. Ray is a wonderful and very insightful speaker and he is needed back in a position of power to show those there how to behave. He is a treasure AND with a great sense of humour. Blinken is the dystopian version of Ray. I love the "infantile disorder". They are beyond help and hope.
None of the Westeren politicians have ever seen the consequences of war for themselves (too young and too ingnorant), I remember the ruins of Rotterdam when I was very little "everything is broken" was what I said to my grandparents.
A lot of former American spies who did untold harm in our world are great as soon as they retire on lucrative pensions.
The US-UK Allies have waged Wars and Coups against about 90 Nations since WW2. They have seen a lot of the consequences of War. It seems they were successful in the Attack against Grenada.
"They are not indispensable and not even exceptional" Very nice and very wise words by Ray McGovern thank you for that.
The always great Ray McGovern. It’s a pleasure to listen him.
Seriously! I might be alone on this, might not, but as a kid, my "bedtime stories" were things like "what happened in Vietnam, the French Indochina preamble"- at least from my father. So hearing Ray McGovern go into historical context for 10 minutes, to set up a two-sentence statement, is not just natural, but soo soothing!
@@6vitamin You were a lucky boy to have such a dad.
Детская болезнь „левизны“ в коммунизме» - труд В. И. Ленина,
"TRUTH is context-driven;deceit is agenda-driven;those not interested in accurate information are not interested in truth. cc. 2020. 👀 🐠 🌊
American exceptionalism=American delusions of grandeur...The world laughs at America.
The UK is the same. A non - entity obsessed by having had a (hellish) empire.
AMERICA IS THE BIG BULLY IN THE WORLD AND THE LEADERS THAT WANT TO HAVE REAL FREEDOM IS FIGHTING BACK!!!
Watching the events in Gaza, I believe the world is more in a state of shock.
You have more in common with the real people of the US than any capitalist masters that you ... Serve.
@@iRelevant.47.blacklistedit’s not the first time this has happened in that part of the world. I think most of the world knew abt these demons, it’s the US that’s waking up to them
A show becomes so wonderful when you let your guest speak without interrupting them.
Yes. I can't stand "interviewers" that can't listen.
Africans too, are fed up with American (and French) impoerialism. It is about time they get ownership and fair prices for their natural resources.
“ The Chickens come home to Roost” Malcom X after the assassination of John F Kennedy. The US has a created lots of Bad Karma.
uh, right. but those aren't chickens.
JFK was an inside job. Those chicken were already home.
@@drakekoefoed1642that's an idiom or a saying
Buzzards
Nima you are the best. You let your guests talk without interrupting them and their contributions are so valuable to helping us understanding the madness we are witnessing. Thank you so much!
Blinken said to Secretary Wang Yi “You are strengthening the Russian economy and helping them fight well” Wang Yi “Mr Blinken sir it ain’t us strengthening Russia it ain’t us helping Russia (win) you and The Big Guy are doing a great job of that all by yourself “
I'm so ashamed of the people that have enforced my country into being the World Bullies. We're going to have our lunch ate.. 😖🤨😡🤬 Thank you, gentlemen! 🙏🏻💪🙏🏻
In Empire all countries are gone, the Elite is eating our lunch.
Those "people" are US citizens who were democratically elected, many reelected, into office. Democracies are of, by, and for the people, so they can never blame it on their government.
Again Ray McGovern has a fantastic memory about the past and tells it understandable, fantastic program today!!!!!
I pray to God he stops this genocide in Israel once and for all. Those poor people are defenseless.
President Joe Biden received $6,135,456 from AIPAC (cf. Pro-Israel Recipients).
God's record on these things can apparently be gauged by his orders re the Amaleks. I shouldn't hold your breath.
They have been since Israel got permission to evict them from their own land.
@davidwright8432 if you believe the Bible which was written by infallible men
I agree ceasefire Now shame on both parties Children Baby killers Nazi
Love Ray bless your wisdom.moral courage and WIT..👏👏👏👏🤗🤗
America needs a taste of their own medicine.
The USA will breakup into smaller countries like Yugoslavia
The US oligarchs definitely do since they are the one's plotting and scheming to destroy everything and everyone including the people in their own country.
@@dennisreed6345idiocy
Class distinction is necessary here don't you think? What capitalist master do you serve? Duh.
@@dennisreed6345 I actually agree, I think it will. But it won’t happen anytime soon, maybe within the next 25 years if we’re still around
Imagine living a privileged life, a charmed life, and be given an important job furthering US intrrests. Such a profile would likely produce a narcissist, a master-of-the-universe, who would be unable to comprehend reality, and instead expect everything to go their way, since it always has. Masters-of-the-unverse make unrealistic decisions.
Infantile Disorder..! 🤣🤣🤣
The book seriously describes from back in Lenin's time what the fake left are today the Democrats which are not true leftist but let's say radical Centrist😂
Sending Victoria Nuland on diplomatic errands as good as sending out Lady Macbeth.
Vicky doesn't obsess about wiping out the spots. Vicky wears the spot as a badge of honor.
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Even tho she was evil, at least Lady McBeth had a conscience.
maybe the US should be called "the expendable nation"?
To the establishment, the ruling class, we ARE! Have no delusions about their loyalty or love for the US. These are not secrets, if you listen to someone speak for a long time, they will tell on themselves. American corporations are "transnational", they do not help America. Nor the unelected NGOs, nor intelligence agencies. They sell us out as quick as the Ukranians, it just happens to be that we are "last in line", otherwise we have no more inherent value to ruling class than anyone else.
condemned.
Ray's "interviews" are a performance of history.
Ray is a class act from my generation.
One of few apparently. The damage that generation has done! Unspeakable!
I always look forward to hearing what Ray McGovern has to say.
Congratulations to both of you.❤ . Very good subjet to understand our present times. Salutations from Venezuela😊
Exceptionally said!
McGovern: Nuland "threw her weight around, which was exceptional". Hilarious.
Her weight and her cookies 😂
Let's just say Nulands weight was substantial lol...
Exceptionnel Ray, thank you!
Once again......a SIMPLY BRILLIANT COMMENTARY! THANKYOU from Australia. God Bless.
Thank you Nima for bringing in Ray in an pisode of your show that will stay relevant in History ❤ Edit: cant type
Great broadcast and analysis of the "exceptional" ones...Thank you Nima for giving Ray an unrestricted platform...
Yes indeed, hope ray can take advantage and reign himself in just a bit...getting very long winded and coverage lot of ground he has already done in earlier episodes...hope for his sake he keeps it at a trot
I forgot, hit the like button and subscribe. Nima has good guests and is another outlet for news with guests from around the world.
This man is verry good ❤🎉❤🎉
Ray McGovern speaks the plain inconvenient truth. Cannot wait to hear more from this very wise and insightful man.
Why Antony Blinken? What are his credentials? Jewish? That's a detriment these days. Is he articulate in science, commerce, multiple languages? Does he have a winning character? He has the politically correct education for a bureaucrat only.
No credentials. Yes he is. Yes it is. No, no, no. Definitely not. No and no.
@@ChicagoMike85😅. Great reply.
The death and maiming of millions of Ukrainians, from his ancestral home land.
@@iRelevant.47.blacklisted No compassion or empathy - clearly a PS (paranoid schizoid.) This is the accepted credential.
Look at his thesis if it isnt redacted. It involves Russia
I enjoy Ray McGoverns summary of points discussed in all his guest invitations. Nobody does it better.
Why is Blinken always dressed like an undertaker???
In his leisure time he sells cars. But he is a very handsome man and very successful in doing so.
He's putting Empire 6 feet under.
He comes from the tribe who's mantra is bringing death and destruction to all including themselves every few decades
Because he's a ghoul.
Employed by the 👿
Thank you Nima& to your guest alsoMr Mc Govern
Dr. Ray McGovern explains the Infantile Disorder syndrome of the empire.😢
It's the Hubris-laden mentality adopted by some Retailers where they train their staff to pretend not to understand you if you don't use their pronunciation (which tells them they have power over you - and so you will gladly overpay for their product). Example to get a Large Regular Coffee at Starvebux you must say: Grande Caffe Americano.
@@rodgerasai this is very perceptive. I never could have thought of this myself. How did you learn to think this way?
Perhaps you could provide a list of businesses to avoid?
@@bellakrinkle9381 I missed a lot of the subtle ways some groups would find pleasure by (secretly) insulting others - kind of inside jokes. Then I spent some time in Louisiana and got a n unexpected Master Class in the New Jim Crow. For example, note the way LE often says "SIR!" (ironically) - they train themselves saying "Sir" or "Ma'am" while thinking something very insulting. Same as way they are trained to shout "Stop Resisting!" - even when person is totally docile. Looks good in a transcript, but video shows otherwise.
@@bellakrinkle9381 Better that each person stops ignoring the insults they feel at various establishments and make their own choices related thereto. For example, a place that makes you wait in line for a hour - just to give them some of your hard earned money - is training you to put their needs (for profit) before your need to use that time more productively.
Among those of us living in neutral Scandinavia and representing major Russian enterprises as well as those born in various of the Russias and active in business and government during the period of rapid changes in leadership in the former Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, it was felt that it was only a matter of time before the Ukraine and Belarus came back to Moskva.
Unfortunately, your "leaders" are as psychologically disturbed as our. Or does all the Collective West serve the same basket of Oligarchs?
There is no neutral Scandinavia...where would that be? Norway, no. Sweden, no. Finland, no. Denmark, no ...so??
The casualties in ukraine are similar in proportion to WW1 for France and Germany. It will be much worse though because fertility rate is 1.2 child per woman instead of 3 a century ago. Ukraine is bled dry with no hope of ever recovering, from 50 million people and 600 000 km2 in 1991, Ukraine may end up with half of its territory, no access to the sea and 25M people dwindling fast below 20M with a big gap in young men killed at war and no hope. NATO will forget about Ukraine. Poland, Romania and Hungaria may share the remains they historically had and ukraine will be gone
i think you are right.
It's amazing that so many people believe that the US and the West have come to the aid of Ukraine when the reality is that it has been cynically used to harm Russia without regard to the welfare of Ukrainian people. If the US and the Western governments had given a damn about the Ukrainian people, the war could have been avoided entirely or negotiated to a resolution that would have been relatively positive for the country and saved hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives, not to speak of the physical and that could have been avoided.
God bless Ray McGovern.
the logic of infantile disorders is inconsequential accountability.
Infantile disorder is a parasitic condition in adults
More like inconsequential ARROGANCE.
Pathocracy, or how psychopathy takes over a society This is not really infantile disorder. I wish our annalists would get learning.
Lennin's brilliance
Wow. I learned so much, and understand so much more. Thank you.
Thank you Ray and Nima for such an interesting discussion. I'm old enough to remember what it was like in a British Colony. In history at school we learned what happened when the British made the mistake of taking on the Zulus in South Africa. The Brits set up for battle on a flat piece of land below a towering mountain. The Zulus attacked from the top of the mountain. Spears against guns. (You don't need to reload a spear!) 4 brits lived to tell the tale. Later the Brits and the Zulu king negotiated to keep the land they wanted. The Zulus are still there. The brits kept the adjoining land to the South where they could farm and develop. The Brits used military and sea power as little as possible. After WW2 the US took over the role of world hegemon. They have much to learn. Jawjawjaw is better than warwarwar.
Thank you both for truth in reporting.
Superb.
We all need to learn this word "pathocracy" and what it means for us all.
There ist another greek word for this: Kakistocracy. A reign where only the worst survive ( and form the Government). Seems like kind of a filter, build by the structure in society. Those with the lowest moral standards, lowest empathy, but high ambitions can pass through. Thats were we are right now. Infantile disorder. Period.
@@kaliyuga4802 Long ago, there was "Peter's principle" which basically states that we get promoted up to our level of incompetence. But, I have been wondering about psychopathy and social structures. I came across this article while looking into psychopathy "The Top ten Jobs that Attract Psychopaths" CEO is number one. Since I realized we evidently live in a Corporatocracy Empire... a French historian for me on the trail of Pathocracy, scientifically known as “Political ponerology”.
Brilliant as usual
I've been watching Fallout on Prime and can't believe how clearly they spell it out that if your military corporations are allowed to make strategy they will bring you to war to save their fiduciary obligation to make profit at all cost. It doesn't end well in Fallout and it won't end well for us either.
there is no future in capitalism because it will always end here with pharma against health, and the defense industry against public safety, along with the cops of course.
I'm amazed how McGovern can tell a complex story, with the necessary gymnastic contextual detours, and then jump straight back to the conclusion and stick the landing better than Olga Korbut. Outstanding.
Mr McGovern is G R E A T !!!! 👌👌👌👌👌☝☝☝☝☝☝☝
I love to listen to Ray! He's so human and so of good sense....for me he should be on Blinken's place....or on Biden's...
Ray McGovern is a brilliant analysts , with years of experience in military intelligence and international affairs. This gives him keen insights into global events that few others have, and wisdom that only a handful of his colleagues also possess. Ray has an extraordinary ability to see through the propaganda and lies that the West peddles to the rest of the world, in conducting their foreign policy initiatives . The exceptionalism espoused by the U.S. and many of its European Allies, is indeed a troublesome and infantile disorder, without question. Thankfully, there are other players on the world stage who can actually act responsibly and with a common sense approach to international relations. The Russians and China are key among the nations who take the long view, and promote policies that are actually constructive, as opposed to the chaotic and destabilizing initiatives promoted by the West! It is dumbfounding that the West can continue on the path that so far has sown seeds of discord and destruction, everywhere these policies are implemented, without exception. Utterly amazing that the U.S. and the West can be so arrogant, ignorant, heavy handed and inept in how they interact with the rest of the world. The hatred and disdain for the West grows more pronounced with each passing day, and understandably so. Many countries are fed up being dictated to by such global bullies, and in the process being exploited for the gain of their Western occupiers, at their own expense. The West never learns from history, or the catastrophic blunders they commit on a regular basis in foreign lands. The unipolar world is in it’s final stages, however the West refuses to acknowledge this new reality. We can all benefit from listening to Ray McGovern, and his assessments of current events. He is always on point, and puts the complexities unfolding all around is, into proper context and proper perspective. The horrors ongoing in Gaza and the West Bank, as well as Ukraine, are all a result of the hubris and stupidity of the West, and the screw ups masquerading as our leaders. Thank you Nina for inviting Ray McGovern back as a guest on your wonderful podcast! His responses to your thought provoking questions, give us all a clearer picture as to what is going on in the world. You are doing an extraordinary job in keeping us all better informed. Please keep up the good work!
*Ted Cruz of Texas ($1,496,950 recipient from AIPAC) believes in the exceptionalism of the United States.*
So what, nothing compared to what is going into pockets now
He also believes israhell is above criticism.
You are definitely exceptional...to the same degree as everyone else 😊
Great , informative, very intelligent analysis by Ray McGovern. Thank you, Nima & Ray.
Ray, excellent analysis, Nima thank you!❤
Great speaker, he has energy and lots of info. Thanks!
Youngster Mcgovern educates again.😊🙏👍
Last words are crucial, the key-words for understanding the root of all the happenings, both today and in the historical past. In fact, history is always the key.
Its supprising every time how much information McGovern has. Great interwiev.
I have huge respect for Ray McGovern
Excellent Nima!
Ray is an exceptional human being.
Thanks Nima 👍 Thanks Ray👍
Such a sad story about the boat 😢.
Morning Ray and Nima
Always like Listening to Ray.
Lead by example. Not by force or covert operations.
Master Race--Chosen People--Exceptional America
Just remember that tens of millions of us who live here, do not share the ideology of exceptionalism. We loathe it.
That was such a great interview, thank you so much.
Hello and thank you from Brazil!
“When I try to sleep at night, I can only dream in red. The outside world is Black and White, with only one color dead!” - ‘Biko’- Peter Gabriel. (😭💔🙏🏻☮️✊🏻)
A masterpiece by Peter Gabriel.
That title is so spot on I hope the interview lives up to it
As in the Big Lebowsky, I’d say, I like your style dude ! Another brilliant interview from Nima👍👏 Amazing what you achieve by letting your guests talk, elaborate and tell the story in their unique way 👍 well done, very much appreciated ❤️🇨🇭
Ray, you're wearing me out looking up words in the dictionary.
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funny as the peak of exceptionalism I believe came from a United States with a tiny government, that is long gone
The US is gone, Empire rules the day. Good luck getting rid of it. The US became the UK, as the rust belt started to take form in the 70's.
Thank you so, so much!
Great as always! Can I suggest having John Bosnitch on sometime? Finished his interview on Geopolitics&Empire yesterday, he's always a great guest imho.
Glorious
Thank you.Best wishes.
Thank you much for this very interesting summary! 😃
Great program long overdue also great comments if I say so myself thank you what is informative and entertaining time I spent with you
Good conversation.
Very well said 🙏
divine unity before government / democracy
My doctor grew up in China in a missionary family which worked on the mainland and also in Formosa, where they built a hospital. A few years ago I asked him if he thought China would invade Taiwan. He said no way, especially because Taiwan's chip makers employed 70 people in PRC. His country is the only one allowed to keep their historic offices on the Bund.
70 million
Nima, thank you for always asking the latest and most relevant questions regarding Africa. African governments are under the full control of the United States government and its affiliates (UN, the Bretton Wood institutions, UK, EU, WTO, NATO, etc)
“Thaad fell with a thud.” classic Ray McGovern
Great video!!!
honestly every time this guy says Putin as poutine i get hungry
Especially when he talks about the Kurds.
😂😂 I hear it as Pooteen 😂😂
This is how far your inteligent mind can take you.
Ray's an Irishman trying for a russian accent in pronouncing Poutine.
@@jameshayden5053Ray speaks some Russian and his pronunciation is very close to the original. On the contrary, most of the mainstream commentators say it wrong.
34:11 "And then nine, nine rings for the kings of men, who above all things desire power." Well, it did sound like a line out of LotR. Ray has a great voice and acting talent, I would totally buy LotR as an audio book if he were to read it.
The correlation of forces, as we studied decades ago, now favors Holy Russia as when the then Tsar saved Honest Abe during the First Civil War.
Hi Nima, another great interview with the great Ray McGovern in the bag, well done. I also have a request, could you interview Joti Brar and Caleb Maupin as they also offer great insights on imperialism and the middle East respectively, thanks.
Greetings from Australia
What i could'nt anderstand as a child was why the town where i lived was destoyed by our allies and not the german air base a few miles off that was intact. That was inland Normandie. Later i was told they wanted to use that air base, wich they did. i mistrusted the americans and the british ever since. Macron is the most hated president ,the french disagree about everything but on Macron they are unanimous
The British led by Churchill betrayed the Slovenes at the end of WW2 also. O "perfidious Albion".
Infantile tantrums too
As some of us recall, has the feel of the closing days of the Worlds Fair on Treasure Island in SF Bay.