He was supposed to be the future of hip hop...
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Join me in a journey into hip hop lore to discuss one of hip hop's forgotten legends lost in time. He's a rapper that barely anyone remembers but for a moment in the mid 90s he was considered to be one of the rappers that would lead hip hop into the next generation. Why was he so hyped and why does nobody remember him, and how is his legacy so important in the first place?
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We need a 30 minute Video of you feeding questionable Cannabis lyrics Anthony Fantano
I can't believe Fantano didn't recognise who it was, "internet's busiest music nerd" my eye! 🤣
Should've changed eating nigga ass like could've Saif rip a nigga in half like other than eat a nigga ass smfh his career went downhill listen Wyclef jean could've of changed it
Why?
@@from_fresno2443 back where I belong he was laughing
Nah I hate that dude NGL
Canibus once said, and i think this is my fav bar of all time: "whenever the head is severed from the human body with a sharp enough weapon the brain remains concious for ten seconds - long enough for me to give you one last message and when you get to hell you can tell Lucifer I said it"
Buckingham palace
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Damn that's fire
Bruuuuh! By far 😎✊🏾
That whole track had crazy bars. I feel like that was like his last good album. Or at least that just the album where I stopped keeping up with bro
Canibus penned my favorite bar of all time. "Every word I ever uttered for hip-hop lovers will reflect forever like two mirrors facing each other."
The baddest, M-other - F-ucker, let me break the style down so you don't have to wonder. 😂
26:43 No... this is.😅
It's probably the best line in hip hop period. We'll...maybe not MF DOOM, says few can see the point like a line through the Hubble...another genius line in my opinion. Whilst you didn't say this and I am in no way attributing this to you, I think labeling Canibus as lyrical miracle is very reductive and stems from his conceptual impenetrability...Canibus is such a hard listen it's frustrating. The reductionism I am talking about is reducing I honor you to a song that personifies sperm...really! Is it not about a consciousness that wills itself into existence but has to do it through trite human means like human reproduction...also conveniently ignoring the fact that this is a song a son wrote detailing his relationship with his mother, talks about a dead beat father and basically that he was raised by single mother and sperm is the thing that sticks out. And this is by far his simplest song!!!
@@Quasardoom Cannibus is absolutely deeper than that, I agree. I think of him like Lupe or Danny Brown. He's just too unapproachable for people to realize the depth and intelligence of his lyrics.
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My favorite bar from canibus is. A wise man sees failure as progress A fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic And loses his soul in the process Obsessed with nonsense with a caricature that has no content Poet Laureate II So true 💯
Sorry to say but the government doesn't want smart Black Folk or Latino Folk so barz like that usually never get their credit . Rappers like Canibus never get their credit . They literally sounded like philosophers without any college degrees straight from urban areas such intelligence came from the hood. ... its more than sad it angers me
Stop it
Dude, you should go back in time, maybe then you could understand what you're talking about?
My style is masterful multilateral I could battle a fool and be naturally cruel
@@nirfd149from a existentialist view i’m a better rapper than you
Canibus is my favorite rapper of all time. As he said "I'm ahead of my time or so they say. I guess that's why I already feel old and gray."
Thats from one of the best verses in hip hop history imo
going through this comment section it seems this guy had a saying for everything 😂
@@DDoubleEDouble he really does
@@DDoubleEDouble Indeed he does
"Everything is drake" really REALLY hit me. I feel we are aligned in this. I always talk about the diversity of acts we used to have.
And it weirdly took me out , maybe its understanding the cultural significance of Burna as a Nigerian and then it just being a weakly made point in the vid got me side eyeing
I love Burna It was mostly jokes on how dominant he is on the afro beat sound in the states
And the worse Drake of all: Drake Drake.
@@Fedora_JPThat so called Drake style has actually been around. Drake honed his skills in Houston with Rap A Lot. That’s why he had several tributes to DJ Screw and the Screwed Up Click (Fat Pat, Lil Keke, Big Moe, Big Pokey, Z-Ro, etc) and UGK in his early years. Devin The Dude falls in that category as well. Even his song November 18th was a remake of a 1990’s DJ Screw and Lil Keke song. Despite what FD says…the South was blowing up in the 1990’s. The underground always ran Hip Hop and not the mainstream.
Bad bunny is bigger than drake outside the United States and Latin music tends to get sidelined often in America
as a zoomer who was a literal infant by the end of the 90s i really appreciate your videos that delve into the history of hip hop
I appreciate his perspective. I have some disagreements with him but I respect his point of view
the video was full of misinformation and lack of information..
@@thisisanewusername4662 I'm curious for some examples, if you have them, as I don't know anything about this topic
@Content well, describing eminem as respecting canibus is funny when you consider he put out a diss track called Can-I-Bitch making fun of him and said canibus "not even on my radar" on Square Dance
@@thisisanewusername4662 like what?
Can-I-bus is probably the most diabolical word smith ever…” I’ll fly ya body out of Dallas, perform plastic surgery while we’re airborne, then switch caskets, then lie to the masses, I’ll tell them that you got murdered over some east/west beef between rappers, radio stations will express they sadness, play classics back to back and pass out “ stop the violence pamphlets….
Gawdam, that goes hard
Jfk to 2pac n Biggie
still can’t believe they told us LL won that beef. one of the things that woke me up to the reality of power and industry in music as a youngin…and the relative muteness of conscious rap…and the fact black thought never saw biggie/tupac level success
LL won the war....not the battle. Black Thought is my favorite, but he never had the charisma of a Big or Pac. Thought is at a point in his career where he is JUST NOW letting the public know who he is as a person. Because before now, he was just a single layered technical rapper backed by a band and allied/aligned with "conscious rappers". And then you add the marketing corporate backing that Big and Pac had. Thought's acumen just wouldn't translate commercially well over the beats and imagery that Big and Pac were guided by. But VERY FEW are seeing Thought technically live on stage or off the top of the head.
They sell their soul, another reason there's ghost writers like cyhi the prince
I was a huge Canibus fan back in the day, but LL cooked him with that Ripper strikes back
While LL obviously won out in his career and longevity, Canibus knocked LL on his a$$ and shocked the hip hop world with 2nd Round K.O. No one else ever hit LL as hard as that in any of his other battles. Canibus will always be part of Hip Hop history for 2nd Round K.O. no matter how underwhelming the rest of his career was.
@@rystew2040 Yes indeed 💯
Speaking of rappers who were weird little freaks (I mean that in the most loving way possible): An analysis of MF Doom and his struggles and reclusiveness would be amazing.
DOOM had legit officially sanctioned impersonators to perform shows he didn’t feel like/couldn’t personally be there for. MF DOOM definitely deserves his own spotlight video.
No. Everyone talks about DOOM. We need more videos like this, about rappers who have not been given their flowers in the current zeitgeist.
Doom was definitely an enigma in the rap game. He needs his story told and after hearing the amazing spot on breakdown on Canibus this is the best platform to do it. That's why I just subscribed. I'm a fan of this show.
Bro, just remember all caps when spell the man's name.
@@YjaffacakeKKOOL KEITH deserves his flowers. His first 4 albums are classics that were way ahead of their time and his collabs with Kutmasta Kurt and others are equally timeless. I can admit nowadays his releases have been meh, but KK definitely pushed the genre forward
As a longtime Canibus fan since the Lost Boyz Era, this is the first video I've seen where his failures are viewed with empathy rather than played for laughs. The mentions to neurodivergence and mental health were very interesting as well & bring humanity to a person who hasn't publicly been treated with much. Thanks for this, FD.
Please understand what he’s been up against. When you go up against Eminem, you’re NEVER walking away with the popular vote… no matter how dope you are. I saw it firsthand in real time. I’m 40 years old today… Class of 2001. I watched Sisqo change the world in real time too. Very literally overnight, the granny panties, bloomers, and period panties all straight up vanished. Like, I saw the shift. Same thing with Eminem. Folks moved us to the suburbs in the early 90’s… My new classmates put me onto Nirvana and Green Day… I put them onto the Wu, Public Enemy, Eric B. and Rakim, etc. A few liked it. Nothing mesmerizing, tho. But let me tell you… Sway and Tech dropped a track with Eminem on it… then My Name Is dropped… and overnight, my classmates who shrugged at Eric B For President and Paid In Full suddenly came into school as lifelong hip hop historians overnight knowing every single word that Shady ever spit. So please understand, Eminem himself absolutely IS hip hop. And he’s definitely dope! But his supporters weren’t into hip hop until he came around. So they very literally don’t even know of a rap world outside of the guy who put em onto it. They’re the male version of Beyoncé’s BeyHive. The facts and truth are easily accessible… Em’s “style” that he’s credited for ain’t his. He got it from a New Jersey rapper. And he’s been credited as the pioneer of the multi syllabic rhyme pattern but he’s neither the first nor the best. Canibus was on that for sure … and definitely can’t forget this next guy… Big Pun! Pun was different, yo.
@@blacksuburban2410 yes…but explain the granny panties - period panties reference.
There’s no such thing as nuerodivergence
@@blacksuburban2410 personally, I think winning a battle vs Eminem you would have to have two things, the fame and the skill set. When em went against Canibus, you can tell that he was definitely the only one that could have murked em. Everyone else didn't have the skillset and popularity.
Canibus can't make a song to save his life nevermind what happened in his career his songs are ass you can lyrical miracle all day you better make some damn records
CanIBus just loved the sport. He came from battle rap and freestyle and stayed about it regardless of how the industry moved.
My FIRST thought was Del tha Funkee Homosapien bc after listening to 3030 my mind was opened to a insane plethora of sci-fi lyricism that was never before even hinted at to me, it changed my whole interpretation of story telling and writing from mere words and music. and after that I cant believe I was so wrong. I knew who Canibus was but never gave a second thought to his tracks and boy was I wrong for doing so.
3030 is a masterpiece
I thought it was gonna be Kool Keith. Sounds like Doc Oc lyrics.
Canibus...Greydon Square...Kool Keith...K-Rino Guilty Smiles Necromancer ft Canibus and Low Technology Progeny of the Ancients Greydon Square Just sharing a few of my favorites
Del definitely an icon bro.
No DJ Vadim or Dälek ?
How could you mention Canibus's military career without mentioning how he wanted to be a fighter jet pilot so badly that he spent six grand on eye surgery just to find out he was too old to learn to fly one?! Craziest detail in that story! Shame though that does suck...
This is one HELL of a video. The discussion regarding mental health/Neuro divergence really hits home for me. Now 43, my parents had us seeing a therapist before we reached double digits, but an ADHD diagnosis didn't exist yet (to my knowledge). Having seen multiple therapists, dealing with depression and anxiety (due in part to being socially awkward and not really understanding friendship/relationship dynamics) I've been diagnosed with ADHD at 42... And am working through it. Thanks FD for taking that moment to discuss.
Hey! I LOVE [actual] pineapple on pizza AND I’m from Chicago too! LoL Everyone: pepperoni, pineapple, and onion ain’t no joke. Don’t knock it till you try it.
I agree great video. But I'm 44 and ADHD definitely existed when I was a kid. It was usually called ADD but essentially the same thing, same treatment, which was mostly Ritalin back then. My cousin was diagnosed in the 80s and his brother in the early 90s.
It's interesting seeing so many people be diagnosed or questioned with adhd right now. I was diagnosed when I was like 8 in the early 90s. I took meds for it, was constantly given tests and put into special rooms. It hit me the hardest in college and work life. But it was still never considered a big deal for a long time. In fact, once social media exploded, people were saying EVERYONE has adhd because the internet. Which is of course highly offensive. But the amount of care people have for adhd now is quite surprising to me.
48, no diagnose, working on understanding human relationships for ages (e.g. 15 years of marriage). I don't think many people understand human interpersonal dynamics and the more I learn about them the more sobering it is, because it definitively isn't as promised in the ads...
@@GattlingCombo Most likely there's not more ADHD than "back then". There's just more focus on it, more people getting diagnosed and there's an openness to talk about it
I met him in 2012 he was cool as hell treated me like he knew me for years solidified him as my favorite of all time
Much respect and a true thank you for this video. Long time friend and fan of Bis right here, since 1998. We must give Canibus his flowers. An indelible mark on the culture, indeed; this was a very eloquent and thoughtful video. Thank you. -LP
Bro...seeing Canibus in that battle with Diz....that shit made my soul weep for my fallen hero. It was like seeing your favorite boxer go one too many rounds...
It was the end for me. You saw his soul leave his body!
Yo your description is exactly how I felt.
Seeing Ali boxed after his prime was his saddest thing to watch... But Ali was and still is getting his flowers Dizaster did the right thing giving Canibus his praise REGARDLESS
That's exactly how I described it. Like seeing Tyson sitting in the ring totally defeated spiritually.
@@shlondabell4719 Diz gets a lot flack for being corny but he's a fan and commonly gives props, even during battles.
Honestly, the Eminem/Canibus thing makes me sad because you can tell that Em was a big fan of Bis but one awkward first meeting wound up spawning a 20 year beef.
I know right? Could you imagine Bis and Em in their prime just doing a straight out raw spitters EP together with each one working to top the next? How crazy would that have been?
Well this set me down a rabbit hole. the whole thing is really well laid out on genius. Eminem vs Canibus: “The most theatrical emcee battle of all time” More details then I needed but I read the whole damn thing anyway O_O
I’m surprised he didn’t delve into their beef in this video. It was quite entertaining.
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod your surprised a mainly black focused channel doesnt want to talk how a white rapper beat another black rapper lyrically so bad it ended his carrer?
@@sergf3624 Canibus 100% beat Em let’s not pretend otherwise. The impression I get is that it was really the LL thing that fucked up his career.
poet laureate infinity singlehandedly keeps canibus in my top 5 rappers of all time, the concept is so unique and i'm glad more people know about this now!
Bro where has this channel been? I just saw your new Chappelle video and then an hour of high quality, on-point analysis of Canibus’ career with historical context? Hearing someone talk about hip-hop like this is refreshing.
kool keith is a better rapper than you
This man is the definition of "Saying everything and nothing at the same time" GOATED
🎯💯 Much love to you, lil' bill! Keep killin' it, man...
the fact that the fans said LL won that battle says all you need to know about cannibus...well, not everything....
😂😂😂😂
Nah, not even close, Bus was so deep that it just went 1,000 miles over your zoomer head 😂 😂
Redman and Busta also.
I’m with you on Canibus reading as neurodivergent. His sincerity is so vulnerable, and he just wants to do his thing without judgment. But that’s not what the audience wanted or expected.
“I am the autistic king Ellipses who broke the ecliptic, but don’t nobody wanna listen”
I went from not knowing a thing about him to thinking he's more or less a genius born before his time. I love how no matter what stage of his journey he was in he was just doing his own thing - a lot of the website stuff especially shows how incredibly forward thinking he was. Neurodivergent vibes are strong
What’s wild is I knew every lyric from them canibus lines without even knowing what this video was about. Canibus used to blaze clue tapes, freestyles and every thing. 2000BC was fire and still a very slept on album. You’ve earned my respect and subscribe sir….
I read J. Cole was heavily influenced by Canibus. He even used to played his songs at his shows. Canibus' influence is gigantic.
He used to post on Canibus website. I was a moderator back when that site was around. Cole is a huge Canibus fan.
@@marianosantiniello2213 Cool. Back then people digested the music and had great discussions.
@@marianosantiniello2213 I use to go on CC all the damn time lol what was your name on there
yeah and funny enough he went by the name "therapist" on CanibusCentral which he obviously had to change haha.
@@marianosantiniello2213 which section did u mod, I modded the text forum for a while.
I knew it was Cannibus. He's the only rapper I know who would emotionally spit some esoteric galaxy bound bars that made you pause & grab the dictionary off the bookshelf
K Rino
You never heard of EYEDEA then smh.... He will always be remembered at the TRUE GOAT OF ALL RAP AND HIP HOP BATTLES
Canibal OX? Company Flow? Deltron 3030? ect..ect..
cannabis*
@@albertogonzalez2203All good, but they came after.
As an avid hip hop fan and small time rapper myself who prides himself on hip hops history - I have to subscribe based primarily on the fact that I know everything you're talking about and can say for absolute certainly that this is one of the best exposes on an artist I have even seen. Well done, and thank you.
I just watched your interview with Anthony Fantano and instantly subscribed. I really appreciate your perspective, I relate to A LOT of your commentary. I’ve been remissed to find quality conversation about Hip-Hop that includes sociopolitical context. I can’t wait to dive further down the rabbit hole.
The 100 bars track is an absolute classic. Canibus just dropped a new album earlier this year. He is still spitting crazy bars. Dude is a legend.
Gotta listen to Faite Accompli, he is telling you the future.
I put your video on randomly to watch while drinking my coffee and damn if it didn't make me an hour late to work. You have a really compelling narrative style, which combined with the subject matter (I was so hyped for Canibus in the 90s, and soooo disappointed by his debut), drew me in and wouldn't let me go. Subscribed and can't wait to watch more of your stuff (but probably not before work).
I heard a million videos about how someone used to like canibus and then got dissapointed in his career, but it feels like im the only who thinks his prime was between 2002-2003, i never get tired of hearing Miclub and Rip The Jacker and see way better than his 98 freestyles, that's been my opinion, i even love his new records Kaiju
Yo he really got dope around 2002-2003 especially when he got some dope beats . Rip the Jacker is def his best album , Stoupe was in his prime around then too. Great combination .
I like that era too, but my favorite era is probably the Melatonin Magik, Undergods, Fait Accompli, Phoenix Rise, and Full Spectrum Dominance era from like 09 to 18. I've lost touch over the years, but I think he only got better over time.
@@SotNist right, people don't know his best verse ever was on Fait Accompli aka Godless America, Kaiju is his 2nd best album imo
@@mesus3701 Fait Accompli is my favorite one. The most focused, poetic and cohesive work he ever put together. 100% third eye. All other rap has just been regular af to me since then tbh.
@@SotNistPatriots was my favorite song.
Whenever FD puts out a hip hop video, you can always feel the love he has for this subject matter. So nice to see prior sharing their passions.
You mentioning canibus as being neurodivergant is what gravitated me to his work. His rhymes were great for and ADHD nerd who are complex with simple things.
"We were in total awe 'cause it blew our minds So many rhymes that were intricately designed He was Poet Laureate of his time And if you don't mind, I'd like to share some of his rhymes Alone in my room looking through the 32X telescope zoom Adjusting the focus of the moon One should not assume the philosophy of David Hume Is nothing more then a subjective conclusion What is the maximum field rate application? The runaway glaciation surrounding the ocean basin Affects the population fluctuation On a continuous basis but that's just the basics The juxtaposition of Canibus' position The precision of something no other has written"
@@Byronic19134 this is one of his best songs…most slept on too
Neurodivergent is a made up term that has no definition in science and can mean whatever you want it to mean, but ok. He's neurodivergent =)
@@faligeTruth!
Speechless! great video!! You took me back in time. Thanks!!
this is a great video. Extra laughs for having LL’s Doin it playing in the background as you explained their beef 😭
I like that you took the time to talk about him possibly being neurodivergent . We don’t think about that enough when it comes to thinking about musicians we looked up to . This was a very compassionate and well done video .🙏🏽
A lot of musical geniuses displayed common traits of neurodivergeny...crazy what we know now
Really though? Like, Artists being weird has always been a thing, we just didn't have the word Neurodivergent until recently.
Neurodivergent is a term based on eugenics
I'm someone they would put on that now and nah, think different isn't anything off. It's growing pains from a more connected world, what you know changes how you think. Combine that with disconnected parents, being raised by screens. So of course kids that went all in and explored farther came off "odd" to everyone else. I know why I'm not easy to relate to and yeah to get that you gotta try and meet people in the middle and understand them too. I mean kind of what JC taught right? Tread a block in another set of kicks, probably something we could all try to do more.
@Naxireal politely disagree, lot of what society deems "weird" or "off" are more often than not just ND traits. Highly recommend doing in depth research into 2023 medical understandings and diagnoses of autism/adhd/bipolar disorder, they present themselves in so many ways that just traditionally get viewed as "weird" by societal standards. Something as simple as being able to fully immerse yourself into a hobby until you're content with your ability to perform in it is a ND trait. That's not to say every "weird" person is on the spectrum, but the odds of a weird kid being on the spectrum are way higher than someone we'd call "not weird" being ND
Yo. He made a whole website with video clips, audience feedback, and more from scratch in the early 2000's? That is genuinely impressive for the time as would have been much more niche information than it is now and it is still somewhat impressive to do so now.
I’m 21:00 minutes in, you almost lost me with Canibus because so much time has passed, I had to let the video play to refresh my memory because I lived through that time period and actually was a fan of His. Happy I kept watching to bring back memories from the golden era!
This is one hell of a great piece on Canibus. At the time I heard a few friends screaming about him and some hella dope rhymes of his but never knew that much about him. I think you’ve done a great service putting your summation of his story out there. This is my first taste of your channel, I’m going straight back for more of your work (after I check out that Alex Jones album of his, sounds like a 360 win), man, brilliant stuff!
“You can't beat me you can't control+alt+delete me” ngl, this is pretty tricky for a general audience of late 90s. like you said, it’s nerdy stuff written for nerds. though there were infinitely less of those compared even to 00s, let alone further down the road. i loved the video. this type of long shots about obscure artist’s story presented with a genuine admiration and passion is what i greatly appreciate in music related content. thanks for all the effort put into this video 🙌🏼
ctrl + alt + del doesn't even delete anything, it just opens a thing to turn off the computer and things like that
@@nidd0xwhich leads to an option to put to sleep or shut down. So...
You long winded mofo just say you liked the video
@@nidd0xanswered your own question
I could listen to 100 episodes of you dissecting hip hop history from the 80s and 90s up to now, the cultural and technological changes, the different eras, and even the breakdowns of what makes a good song. You can tell this stuff is coming from a place of passion for you. The Canibus bars were so fun, even if "lyrical miracle spiritual individual" is not in the zeitgeist anymore it always has a place in my heart.
anyone who uses the phrase "lyrical miracle" is automatically disqualified
Thanks for this he was the definition of being ahead of his time fr
Your level of analysis and relatability is a master class in mentorship. people are getting a whole lot they aren't necessarily recognizing from this content; unless they analyze it the same way as the hiphop introspection provided but with a lens more applicable life generally.
Never knew Canibus was such a traditional tech dude. Based on this info Canibus doesn't really seem like a rapper, but a neurodivergent techie who became most known for one of their hyperfixations. It would be nice to see him fully embrace his technological self with the rap flare
Canibus was also in the army. He was in Iraq as well.
On the infamous taped conversation between canibus and ll cool j, I remember being shocked that he brought up chatter on message boards. Why? Because it was 1997 and only hardcore nerds used the internet like that back then.
I coined him the first ever STEM rapper
@@jerryhicks9025 Before Souljah Boy's ascent, mainstream rappers used to diss "internet rappers" all the time in their bars. The irony.....
@@dawb86 Some of them still do that
This was J Coles favorite rapper. His cadence and visualization in his most recent songs are a testament to it
Naw nas was
@@mike_ojones3055No, Canibus was. He used to be in the canibus-central forums dropping keystyles under the screenname "Therapist" and we used to clown him calling him "The r@pist" 🤣
@@mike_ojones3055 nope it was 100% canibus, I knew jcole online before he was ever famous, he was on Canibus central message boards under the name "therapist", dont believe me look it up.
I appreciate the hard work you put into this piece. Really enjoyed it!
Intelligent, thoughtful, insightful, well researched and well presented. It's so rare for me to find exceptionally good content like this on KZhead. Keep up the great work.
It's weird but comforting to watch an FD video without a sense of existential political dread. Wish we could get more videos like this, nuanced takes on phenomenons in Black culture and history
The existential political dread was in the Canibus lyrics
ROFL@@vampyweekies
@vampyweekies4412 Fucking hilarious!
i neeeeeeeeeeeeeed my GYATDAYiM thesaurus Ladies & gentlemen but fully agree MOS'DEF . . .
In South Africa, Canibus was the most famous rapper among heads at that time. To this day he is the most quoted. To run at top speeds without bending my knees
Is it? I am South African and never heard of him. Though im a little too young probably. That's fascinating
@@tushaethewrong5602 yeah this was early 2000s
Noone in Africa knows Cannabis bro. Especially in South Africa, y'all don't even like speaking English smh
@@davidzimmerman5359 are you joking? Any hip-hop head from South Africa over 30 can quote you a Canibus verse word for word
True as a South African Canibus was the most feared Mcee ever only the newbies who dont know him.
Please do a similar video about Killah Priest !!! similar kind of journey to Canibus. Definitely deserves a lot more recognition considering his level of knowledge and creativity.
Man, I spent 2003-2005 trying to get people to listen to Canibus' "Mic Club" and "Rip The Jacker." He went off on some weird directions, but I felt like he was - bar none - one of the best lyricists on the planet at that time. He basically had a career resurrection in the underground after his mostly failed attempt at mainsteam acceptance. Dude eventually kinda lost the thread, but he'll always be a favorite. Edit: Damn, I never saw that 2010 battle. That shit is tragic. 😬 Love this video. 👍
Lost Boyz - Beasts from the East w/ Canibus
Canibus is the hip hop equivalent of an encyclopedia. Love the guy.
He really was ahead of his time. Remaining independent and running his own website. Very authentic indeed.
He wasn’t ahead of his time at all. Popular rap never went back to that style
Man, I don’t usually comment on videos, but thank you for making this! 🙏🏾
This just shows that you get on being yourself and then everybody tries to make you over. I like authenticity. I want to see where an artist is trying to go. I hate when artists try to become commercial with what is hot at the time. Do you and hope the audience appreciates it!
43 year old over here. Was waiting and waiting for that Canibus tsunami back in the late 90s, early 2000s…but it was just a ripple. So true that genuine song writing will always have more longevity and appeal than an MC with insane technical and wordplay skills
Same, also old guy. Worked at a radio station back in college and the conversation around Canibus was always "mad skills, can't make a song (album) to save his life."
Checking into the old guy club. Agree with you both.
🫡here to say word.
Is it? Because so many popular songs are trash. I think Canibus has a great overall body of work. To me, Canibus is like bebop compared to mainstream rappers who I equate with Kenny G.
@@ambientvibes4301 You can tell they've never even listened to Canibus. Canibus work is absolutely amazing, I'm glad he decided to truly find himself and not care what the masses like these morons think. They don't know hip hop at all.
I think the fact that I haven’t listened to Canibus in like 15 years, but immediately recognized these lyrics says a lot about his skill.
His verse on beast from the east is the greatest verse ever recorded by any artist ever in my opinion ……..Almost 30 years later and I’m still like wtf did I just hear!!!!!
You lyrical snobs are weirdos.
Same here
Great video! I'm 43 and remember Canibus coming up and falling off- the LL beef never seemed fair to me, even though I'm a fan of both. Anyway... thanks for the trip down memory lane! 90s music forever!!! haha
it's rare I start a video out of this long out of curiosity only to finish it right then and there. normally I'd click off after 10 min or save to watch later and never back to it, but you have earned my immediate sub. big ups dude 🙏
That Poet Laureate Infinity concept is simply...heartbreakingly brilliant
yes and if you do timeline mixes, you can still make incredible things to this day, timeline mixes are mixing the bars from the different layers, non timeline is just people who literally cut words out to make stuff rhyme, which u can do with anything so it doesnt make it special. but his layered rhymes are incredibly ahead of there time.
experimental/diy music person here that has an affinity for hip hop music/culture (especially the backpack kind lol). i really appreciate your documentation of this branch of art history, both in this and the drake video you did. you’re sincerely one of my favorite sources of historical narrative. makes one realize how similar hip hop is to punk rock in terms of their first 20-30 years of growing prominence.
Extremely similar
I think about the punk and rap comparison so so often. Rap has historically been very very punk. Even now with the deconstruction of rap (like a lil b,for instance),it isnt my thing but I think it's all very punk.
You have great delivery. I almost clicked away when you said the video was going to be about Canibus but you hooked me into the presentation quicker than I could press the button. LOL
Great video; insightful, impressive and thoughtful spot-on breakdown on the man. Was and still am a huge fan, and bump Buckingham Palace regularly.
When I was in high school, probably '96, I watched two friends flip out over a Canibus verse in a video. One guy said, "I ain't never heard no rapper like that before." He said it twice. I still remember that.
Canibus was a head of his time, White kid from the UK listening to him back in 2000. I was overwhelmed by his intelligence, visionary and amazing way to put lyrics and talking about things nobody else was. He was a genius!!
Canibus 33,3s
Same here pal. From the rural towns of Cumbria we had that shit banging in the council estate bedrooms 😂😂
100% the same lol. White kid from London, 1978 born, here lol
The problem is it is not enough to have the most complex hyperbrain lyrics, you have to also make good music. And at that very important aspect of hip-hop he (and many others in the same boat) utterly failed.
@@GM53946His music is amazing
This is amazing. Please keep making these.
Man this was an amazing video thank you.
Every one of my friends really wanted to rap like Canibus! We were studying dictionaries to come with the most complex wordplay.
As a very casual hip hop enjoyer I really didn't think this video was for me, but once I started listening it was hard to stop and I ended up watching the whole thing. A fascinating story regardless of one's relation to hip hop
Causal 😂 🤡
I highly recommend taking your adventure a step further and listening to his whole discography it will resonate with you if you like esoteric and metaphysical futuristic shit.
@@jidowu6019seriously dude?
I remember hearing Canibus at some point in the late 90s and digging what I heard. I seem to remember something about a beef he had with Noriega, but he didn't seem to turn up on my radar after that. This is a fascinating story, much RA the Rugged Man or Big L or many others , he just never ended up with the recognition he deserved. Of course, the music industry also devours and spits out many a talented artist. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Those WERE the days. Just came across your channel, loving it bro
Hopefully this video will give Canibus a little spark of fame again. It's much deserved due to his talent and ingenuity.
Fame for suckers,,
So his own face can cancel him again?
He is trash now.
Psychologist in his 40s here. Just a minor correction: ADD (with and without the H) has been in the Diagnostical and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders since its third revision in 1980. Before that there was "hyperkinetic disorder" as a diagnosis since the 50s, so it was definitely a thing back then. But of course the public discussion around it as well as opportunities for treatment etc. were very different from now.
Yeah, my dad wasn't treated for it because the medications were considered too dangerous by his parents. His lack of treatment led to his mistreatment from his family and teachers.
I was born 81.. I was label "Hyperactive" they had me take Syerts (the pill before Ridelin) til 13.. so interesting this information
@@feodiente9460 *Ritalin
Thank u. I weirdly feel seen for some reason now. I was diagnosed ADHD in 92 at 6 years old. I was also labeled as bad as well though.
@@ummmummm563 yeah..I ain't never won no spelling bees my friend. 🤣💯
I can’t believe you called the Lost Boyz mid……but I respect your opinion because you seem to have actually done your homework
Man I just found yout channel and you're amazing. I agree almost 100% with everything you said. I also think you gotta look a little deeper these days to find the really good rappers. Peace brotha!
I immediately knew exactly who it had to be because nobody else rapped quite like that. I ain’t even remember the lyrics, but that style is unmistakable! He’s how I learned what an epiphany is, what an enigma is, and probably a whole other bunch of words I forgot came from just listening and going wait what is that word?
I started rapping the whole verse after the first 2 words it's one of the greatest verses ever spit, "I was born with a mic, lord of the mic, before all plant and animal life, I existed, in the Garden of Eden getting lifted..."
those really aren't crazy words my dude lmfao
Maybe you should be smart enough to realize this video is about a rapper from the 90’s and people who say they learned words from his lyrics were probably kids at that time. Since you’re such a fucking genius and you know everything.
@@Nondescripthumanoid LMAO wow why are you so mad? 😆no need to cry little guy
Sounds like when i listen to K-Rino Immortal technique or Beast 1333
Who are the top 5 rappers of all time? Think about it. Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan
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Cus I spit hot fiyah!
Thank you for this video. Good stuff
Your channel is excellent. Glad I found it. Keep up the good work!!!
I'm 48 and have been a Canibus fan for decades. He was lyrically untouchable. A few years ago, he dropped some dope shit with Cambatta. Cam is another lyrical threat. Great video, subbed.
CAMBATTA IS THE TRUTH.....AND HES FROM WHERE I LIVE LOL 👍🏾
Cambatta is amazing. The tape with Lux 🔥 everything 🔥🔥🔥
How you feel about Deca?
Canibus hit in 1998. You make it like it was over three. 😂
Fun fact: some of j coles earliest work was first shared in the mic club forum (under therapist). Even getting into a beef with one of the other members who was top dog at the time.
Facts, I remember seeing it on ripthejacker or canibuscentral
Thank you for this knowledge!
J. Cole should have been mentioned more. That Levy shirt...fire. Bro, I am just discovering you and I am backlogging. You are making content I truly enjoy as an 80's brotha from Southside Chi. This is taking me BACK, and forward.
I'm only 28 but even I can see what you're saying on a lot of levels, even outside of hip hop. I'm often stunned when friends don't know people who seem household names to me, and they're usually equally stunned when it happens the other way. Comedians, KZheadrs, fighters rappers, wrestlers, bands. We might never have universally known names like Stone Cold, Dave Chappelle, or Metallica ever again.
The algorithm, my man. Skynet doesnt need cyborgs, and the matrix doesn’t need a simulation of life in the 80s. They just needed phones with a nice screen.
@brmbkl fantastic comment, bro!
Canibus was a visionary indeed. He believed light could travel in multiples of C.
RTJ is a masterpiece . Seriously
And hes the organic super computer who solved something crazy with 2 blue metric rulers i believe
@@frandavis1990 and he's gucci gang gucci gang gucci gang gucci gang
Very well thought out and intelligent run down of one of the greats imo from that 97 era.. You have a new loyal sub 🙏
this was excellent, amazing content. Salute from the Hollywood Xombiez!!! we just subscribed
As a 40-y.o. lover of Hip-Hop I gotta say this one of the most entertaining hours I've spent on KZhead, man. Thanks for this. Alhtough, I also gotta say, ain't nobody ever gonna convince me that The Ripper Strikes Back was better than 2nd Round Knockout, lol.
Second round ko is better most heads will agree
canibus 99 perecent line is legendary. still need someone to diss drake using those bars as a sample
RIP MF Doom. Looks like it's going to be a great day today to get some fresh air like a straight-up straightaway.
Cheers Guv’nor!🍷
Hey you, got a light? Nah, bud light
Although late to the conversion, I just wanted to jump in and say good ish sir. Great video/commentary. I appreciate your delivery and perspective. Coming from a self-acknowledged oldhead. New sub. Thanks for this content.
Glad I found your channel. I miss old hip hop, Groups like Boogiemonsters, freestyle fellowship, etc.
The people of the backpacker era who actually had the hype within the underground and were seen as the pinnacle were guys like MF DOOM, Aesop Rock, Sage Francis, Techn9ne, and Slug. None of those guys fit into this miracle lyrical thing; they could all tell stories, valued production, had nice flow, and put together complete albums. They were just avant-garde or different in some ways that made it so you would not hear their songs in the mainstream. The people who loved those guys also loved rappers like Ghostface, Talib Kweli, GZA, Nas, and Common Sense who were mainstream while being different from what was being largely pushed around them.
I agree with absolutely every word
Very true! You can add immortal technique to that list too pal
Jesus, the first time I heard MF DOOM was on Adult Swim and 🤯 I was hooked ever since. Underground hip hop isn't where I live, so I was taken completely off guard. RIP to the mask
RIP Camu Tao and Eyedea.
This is real
Canibus is probably the only rapper in the history of Hip-Hop to go from a unicorn to an enigma in a span of five years. He was hot product around 1997, by 2002 most fans forgot about him. He's still a beast and will always be on my top 10 (personally).
MAD GRiM sent me here, love this content
great video! Props
The respect Diz gave him at that battle….speaks VOLUMES. Can was a shadow of his former self, even pulled out a notebook…AT A BATTLE. Even THEN Diz hushed the crowd any time they tried to clown Cannabis. I got tears coming up just thinking about the moment.
I still can't believe Diz made the wonton song
that was my favorite thing about the battle, diz was so respectful to a legend !
yeah yo. It was heartbreaking, i been tellin’ everybody bout bis for decades!
I'm not sure why people put so much emphasis on that one battle yeah it wasn't good for cannabis but it's not that big of a deal it's not like a career-ender it just was a bad night and I don't get why people are born so much it means nothing
I low-key think that was chess move by Bis, like for publicity to see if he could garner attention. I mean really think about who bis is and was. He still dropping music to this day
Thank you for shouting out Kool Keith! I feel like his importance in rap nerddom can't be overstated!
For real! I remember Kool Keith used to throw out baggies with chicken wings and Hi-C at his shows 😂
I still listen to that Dr. Dooom album.
Dr. Octagon is a top 10 record for sure.
@@nervousallday that is the most Kool Keith thing I ever heard of.
kool keith is the goat
I subscribed just because you did an excellent video on Canibus
Thoroughly enjoyed this breakdown