$1499 RTX 4070 MSI Katana 15! Unboxing, Benchmarks, 5 Games, Undervolting, Overclocking, Display!

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Today is the unboxing of MSI Katana 15 with RTX 4070, i7-12650H, 16 GB DDR5-4000, 1 TB, 144 hz FHD for $1499! We will be doing undervolting the i7 CPU, overclocking the RTX 4070, gameplay testing in several games, display testing, flex test, and removing the bottom for internal analysis! You can find links to buy all RTX 4000 series laptops on my 2023 Gaming Laptop Ranking List: listium.com/@GizmoSlipTech/80...
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00:00 - Intro to MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070)
02:12 - MSI Katana 15 vs MSI Pulse 15 Comparison Overview
05:57 - MSI Katana 15 vs Acer Nitro 5 Comparison OVerview
06:27 - MSI Katana 15 vs Asus Zephyrus G16 Comparison Overview
07:03 - MSI Katana 15 vs Asus Strix G16 Comparison Overview
07:33 - Unboxing the MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H, RTX 4070, 16 GB DDR5, 144 hz FHD)
15:07 - Size comparison MSI Katana 15 vs Razer Blade 16
15:35 - Size comparison MSI Katana 15 vs Alienware M16
15:58 - Size comparison MSI Katana 15 vs Asus Strix G18
16:24 - Size comparison MSI Katana 15 vs Razer Blade 18
16:54 - Removing the Bottom Panel of the MSI Katana 15
26:29 - A look inside the MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070)
35:48 - Ports Review for the MSI Katana 15
38:23 - Keyboard and Touchpad Review - MSI Katana 15
41:30 - Flex Test - MSI Katana 15
42:43 - Display Test with Spyder 5 Elite (FHD 144 hz)
50:03 - MSi Center Overview
52:50 - Cinebench R23 Single Run (i7-12650H) - No OC/No Undervolt - MSI Katana 15
55:54 - My Gaming Laptops Sheet Overview!
57:30 - Cinebench R23 10 Minutes Run (i7-12650H) - No OC/No Undervolt - MSI Katana 15
01:02:25 - Hinge Test - MSI Katana 15
01:10:30 - Trying to Undervolt the MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070)
01:17:57 - Cinebench R23 10 Minutes Run (i7-12650H) - Higher Power limits Test - MSI Katana 15
01:38:20 - God of War (1080p, Ultra settings, DLSS Quality) - MSI Katana 15
01:40:19 - God of War (1080p, Ultra settings, DLSS OFF) - MSI Katana 15
01:44:08 - Hogwarts Legacy (1080p, Ultra Settings, RT ON, DLSS Quality, FG ON) - MSI Katana 15
01:51:44 - Hogwarts Legacy (1080p, Ultra Settings, RT ON, DLSS OFF, FG OFF) - MSI Katana 15
01:54:05 - Hogwarts Legacy (1080p, Ultra Settings, RT ON, DLSS Quality, FG OFF) - MSI Katana 15
01:00:57 - Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark (1080p, Ultra Settings, RT OFF, DLSS OFF, FG OFF) - MSI Katana 15
02:03:22 - Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark (1080p, Ultra Settings, RT Ultra, DLSS Quality, FG ON) - MSI Katana 15
02:07:10 - Blasting Some People in Cyberpunk 2077! (1080p, Ultra Settings, RT Ultra, DLSS Quality, FG ON) - MSI Katana 15
02:11:21 - Red Dead Redemption 2 Benchmark (1080p, Max Settings, RT OFF, DLSS OFF) - MSI Katana 15
02:24:04 - Apex Legends Firing Range (1080p, Low Settings) - MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070)
02:27:30 - Apex Legends Arena Match (1080p, Low Settings) - MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070)
02:32:06 - 3D Mark Timespy (RTX 4070) - STOCK - MSI Katana 15
02:37:41 - Overclocking the RTX 4070 - +200 Core/+700 Memory - MSI Katana 15
02:41:07 - Overclocking the RTX 4070 - +250 Core/+700 Memory - MSI Katana 15
02:42:26 - Overclocking the RTX 4070 - +250 Core/+900 Memory - MSI Katana 15
02:45:13 - 3D Mark Timespy (RTX 4070) - +250 Core/+900 Memory - MSI Katana 15
02:50:20 - Speakers Test for MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070)
02:59:49 - God of War on Projector (1600p, Ultra settings, DLSS Quality) - MSI Katana 15
03:01:57 - Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark on Projector (1600p, Ultra Settings, RT Ultra, DLSS Quality, FG ON) - MSI Katana 15
03:05:40 - Red Dead Redemption 2 Benchmark on Projector (1600p, Max Settings, DLSS OFF) - MSI Katana 15
03:12:10 - MSI Katana 15 (i7-12650H + RTX 4070) Summary and Overall Impressions
03:22:03 - Is MSI Katana 15 Worth Buying? Review and Conclusion

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  • @1:13:10 Gizmo the Hero, literally contacting Asus and getting them to improve Undervolting for us! Massive W bro, keep up the good work!

    @slickrounder6045@slickrounder6045 Жыл бұрын
  • love your reviews man,, really appreciate it, keep up the good work!!

    @19Roy73@19Roy73 Жыл бұрын
  • Love thèse raw videos. Subbed

    @leploeo7145@leploeo7145 Жыл бұрын
  • Great vid!

    @reccar3677@reccar3677 Жыл бұрын
  • for the M.2 mount you can contact their support and they will sent you a mounting braket with screw for free (for memory expansion)

    @ionutz89ful@ionutz89ful5 ай бұрын
  • Are you going to do a video on the MSI Stealth 17 Studio?

    @ChrisLaceyaec12@ChrisLaceyaec12 Жыл бұрын
  • For the 85w, you could do a vbios flash to increase the power limits

    @leploeo7145@leploeo7145 Жыл бұрын
  • For extra M.2 seems like you don’t need a screw to mount. You just plug it in and it rests on top of that black square thing. And when you close the cover it will be tightly sandwiched in between. And the heat will dissipate to that blue area of that back cover.

    @AppleTechPro870@AppleTechPro8708 ай бұрын
    • Lol it's amazing how someone that takes 3 hours to record doesn't know something so simple

      @NPC123UH@NPC123UH8 ай бұрын
    • There's a bracket which you need to get direct from MSI. They send it out for free complete with 3 screws for attaching the bracket to the chassis and the ssd to the bracket.

      @bobholmes4215@bobholmes42156 ай бұрын
  • The temps being really good

    @leploeo7145@leploeo7145 Жыл бұрын
  • 2:49:38 Just wanted to say that I ran Time Spy on the stock 4070 in my Strix G18 with a QHD+ display and got a graphics score of 12257. Also, according to HWInfo64, the wattage did go up to about 119 at peak.

    @jrnewhouse@jrnewhouse Жыл бұрын
  • You need to disable overclocking lock on bios to be able to undervolt, it's in the performance settings

    @Donker1582@Donker1582 Жыл бұрын
    • not working

      @josemarquez8454@josemarquez845411 ай бұрын
  • i think you are suppose to use the case as the tension lever on the second m.2

    @jasonhowe1697@jasonhowe1697 Жыл бұрын
  • What laptop are you using in the background?

    @ChrisLaceyaec12@ChrisLaceyaec12 Жыл бұрын
  • Great laptop with that frame generation

    @soapmactavish6449@soapmactavish6449 Жыл бұрын
  • It's a pain in the a$$, in my country this laptop only provide 4060 gpu with the same prices (even a bit expensive than the 4070 series), sadly the other laptops with rtx 40 series isn't available in my country yet, so i might wait a lil bit longer for the ROG Strix series

    @wann7391@wann7391 Жыл бұрын
  • Please KZhead, stop suggesting these videos when I fall asleep watching tech stuff.

    @Claudiopoiares@Claudiopoiares7 ай бұрын
  • I need help I can't decide which one to buy lenovo legion 5 pro ryzen 7 6800h rtx 3070 ti or this katana with i7 13620h? They have the same price. Which is better?

    @eduardosegura5457@eduardosegura5457 Жыл бұрын
  • The temps are extremely low + frame gen this is a great laptop

    @friendlyfella123@friendlyfella123 Жыл бұрын
    • exactly my thoughts

      @totalanonymous8180@totalanonymous8180 Жыл бұрын
  • Which one do you prefer? This one or Gigabyte Aorus with I5 12500H RTX4060

    @xros1723@xros17237 ай бұрын
  • blue metal part on rear panel looks like a ssd colling panel.

    @atdt01410x@atdt01410x Жыл бұрын
  • Would really like to see the $1500 4060 Pulse compared to this.

    @kazuya246@kazuya246 Жыл бұрын
  • why do you remove the part of webcam test?

    @mrapplelol52@mrapplelol526 ай бұрын
  • What is your ambient temperature? In the gaming test did you lift the laptop up?

    @ThichKhumNum@ThichKhumNum Жыл бұрын
    • He said ambient was 72. It seemed to be flat on the desk

      @fugginrambo@fugginrambo Жыл бұрын
    • @@fugginrambo thank you.

      @ThichKhumNum@ThichKhumNum Жыл бұрын
  • Might get this to replace my Legion 5 with 2060. Would cost me €1100 after selling the Legion. I also have a MacBook Pro 16 with M1 Pro, so I don't mind the poor screen quality, speakers and battery.

    @BlackParade01@BlackParade01 Жыл бұрын
  • I don't hink MSI warranty covers hinge failure as dey see it as a cosmetic issue a d not hardware related!! So no point in getting extended warranty

    @MrPirateking619@MrPirateking619 Жыл бұрын
  • can you please help me? I'm about to buy later and I only have 2 choices. Katana 15 B13V rtx 4060 $999 and Acer Nitro 5 rtx 4050 $899. I want the Katana but there is some bad review about the performance. Thank you in advance!

    @kennethtrestiza3798@kennethtrestiza37985 ай бұрын
  • Есть ещё MSI Vector у него 140W на RTX4070

    @user-mt9eg3ro5p@user-mt9eg3ro5p Жыл бұрын
  • Hello ! I changed the memory of the laptop, just for 5600mhz memory and i cant activate XMP profile or the laptop dont have a possibity for this. :(

    @guillemventura4865@guillemventura486510 ай бұрын
  • Sadly even on the fabled Msi Bios, normal Undervolting for all 12th gen H chips (and probably all the "13th" gen as well since they are just refreshed Alder Lake) is locked down. However with Msi there is a workaround that some expert Msi owners figured. I can't link the reddit post that has the screenshot detailing it, but one can find it under "12700 can be undervolted? Msi guys found a way".

    @slickrounder6045@slickrounder6045 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow...this would be easy to watercool :D But why gpu maxed about 88 W tdp ???? Not 105 ...

    @albertwesker4266@albertwesker42666 ай бұрын
  • This laptop or gigabyte aorus 15, rtx 4070, Intel 17-13700, 16gb, 1tb ssd 165hz which one is better?❤

    @joanromero147@joanromero1479 ай бұрын
  • I bought The Katana an Wanted to install a second m.2. I also had a big question mark on face when i saw that there was no mounting. MSI support was able to help me ans i will be sent an accessory part for mounting.

    @marcels.9120@marcels.9120 Жыл бұрын
    • Whats the name of the accessory?😦

      @norajuarez8470@norajuarez8470 Жыл бұрын
  • Hey guys please help so i have the same laptop in this video but i cannot acces the power limit of msi afterburner please help im so confused

    @farhananandita5261@farhananandita5261 Жыл бұрын
  • Can anyone recommend me the right voltage values for my i7-13620H? If i exactly reproduce the steps from the video i get a score of around 14500. With the stock voltage settings i got 15300! Maximum Watts after changing the voltage was 101W. So there has to be some misconfiguration. Thank you in advance!

    @leonxger@leonxger6 ай бұрын
  • Review hp omen with the new GPU omen 17

    @Fusions-xl3sh@Fusions-xl3sh Жыл бұрын
  • This one or asus rog strix g16 2023 i7/rtx 4060 ?

    @taoufikbenjaafar928@taoufikbenjaafar92810 ай бұрын
  • Just stumbled into this video after I bought my own msi katana 15 but with the 13th gen i7 & 4070. It's been great so far especially since my last computer was from 10+ years ago. I got lucky with the Amazon sale and paid $1400 with Amazon warranty

    @n7titan243@n7titan2439 ай бұрын
    • Im having the same (i7-13620H) have you tried overclocking the CPU? If i follow the steps in the video my performance decreases :/

      @leonxger@leonxger6 ай бұрын
    • @@leonxger Sorry I haven't tried overclocking it

      @n7titan243@n7titan2436 ай бұрын
    • I have the I7 12th Gen one. 3 months old. My screen freezes after every 2-3 hours. Have to hard reset. Are you facing the same issue?

      @pranjalvaity.406@pranjalvaity.4064 ай бұрын
    • No my laptop is still running fine with daily use and moving it back and forth from the office.@@pranjalvaity.406

      @n7titan243@n7titan2434 ай бұрын
  • same perf as my msi gp76 3070 140w

    @jkmkaabay@jkmkaabay Жыл бұрын
  • Im about to buy katana, same spec as this one, as i see its i7 12650h rtx 4070, but there is also one for the same price but its i7 13620h and rtx 4060. So im confused and what is better to get, go for processor or gpu??

    @dororo2921@dororo29216 ай бұрын
    • Working > 4060 Gaming > 4070

      @tung6870@tung68705 ай бұрын
  • I hope AMD can come out with their own version of FG that works on most gpu's like FSR. I would like to hear why FG could not work on older RTX cards. Besides forcing users onto 4000 series. Could you imagine if they enabled it for the 3070's.. it would make the 4070 entirely pointless.

    @Jtwizzle@Jtwizzle Жыл бұрын
    • FG is shit

      @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
    • hey bro im really trying to find a good laptop with a good price and i found the msi katana 15 ( 1300$ ) , the katana im trying to buy is 15.6" qhd with rtx 4070 and i7-13700h ofc with also 1tb ssd and 16gb ddr5 . now please would you recommend me buying it and its new too and not used before , is there any issues i could find and i dont see any better laptop with such price when it comes to the specs , im also a gamer and a video editor , thank you in advance.

      @theexterminatorazrael2344@theexterminatorazrael23445 ай бұрын
    • @@theexterminatorazrael2344 If thats the best you can find for that price, go for it. That is pretty good specs for the $$.

      @Jtwizzle@Jtwizzle5 ай бұрын
  • nice but i think i am just going to just buy a rtx 3080 laptop in the next month

    @LilBrujoFH18@LilBrujoFH18 Жыл бұрын
  • What's the difference with the MSI Crosshair 4070?

    @odahon@odahon11 ай бұрын
  • Can you please also review the Msi cyborg 15?

    @simplehuman4295@simplehuman4295 Жыл бұрын
    • The $999 RTX 4050 Gaming Laptop - MSI Cyborg 15 kzhead.info/sun/lpWHosh5gnN-l5s/bejne.html

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын
  • The Laptop is using 85w all the time on gpu ingame. I was assuming this has 105w TDP. How to enable the the dynamic boost ?

    @danieldw572@danieldw57211 ай бұрын
  • Hey fam! I’m an architecture student and I’m looking for a laptop which can do renders and work with this kind of programs. My budget for it it’s around 1500$ and for now my top option is the Katana 15 4070, i7 12650. Im used to work with and extra monitor which could have higher display resolution that it’s the top problem of the katana 15. Could someone recommend me any others options?

    @DaaniAvils@DaaniAvils Жыл бұрын
    • This is the best laptop you can ge tfor this price. Although I recommend buying some extra ram

      @hilmiterzi3847@hilmiterzi3847 Жыл бұрын
    • You'll get the higher display resolution right after you connect the hdmi or whatever it might be. When not, go to settings / display / advanced display/ change resolution

      @hilmiterzi3847@hilmiterzi3847 Жыл бұрын
  • DLSS was on Auto in Cyberpunk

    @mcericx@mcericx Жыл бұрын
  • This unboxing never won an Oscar and is longer than the film Lawrence of Arabia.

    @whothefoxcares@whothefoxcares Жыл бұрын
  • or you can buy a good monitor and connect the laptop and maybe you'll have more FPS on an external monitor

    @vzheka1981@vzheka1981 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi, i would like to buy a budget friendly, gaming laptop can you help me decide between the msi katana 15 b12vgk rtx4070 and the asus tuf a15 rtx4060. Thanks

    @waynecoppola@waynecoppola5 ай бұрын
    • Screen probably better in TUF, but slightly more performance on Katana 15

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech5 ай бұрын
    • @@GizmoSlipTech thankfully

      @waynecoppola@waynecoppola5 ай бұрын
  • I just bought this laptop, the 17 inch version. There is something rattling around inside the laptop while it's turned off, I suspect it's that piece of rubbery thingy seen at 28:15. Should I return it or should I open it up and stick that thing back to it's place? Will this void my warranty? Does anyone one? Thanks.

    @DoctorGravity642@DoctorGravity6425 ай бұрын
  • Is it good I'm a gamer and an electronic engineer speciality on robot

    @mhyassmin2090@mhyassmin20906 ай бұрын
  • @gizmosliptech Do you think the 7945HX will be a solid choice this year?

    @Hebzzzzzz@Hebzzzzzz Жыл бұрын
    • Probably, yes.

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын
    • Probably, yes.

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын
  • Is asus rog strix g15 advantage edition is good or this one?

    @Gamerchanger152@Gamerchanger152 Жыл бұрын
    • The strix advantage edition is better and on-sale for 1299 and has 12 gb vram in the 6800m

      @jimmyboone363@jimmyboone363 Жыл бұрын
  • Wait do you get the Laptops for a discount ? Why would anyone pay shipping, duties and a 50$ fee plus what you paid for that laptop. Am I missing something?

    @3tommygunns3@3tommygunns3 Жыл бұрын
    • Because international pricing is far, far more than what I paid, so it will save some people a lot of money. If they are from the usa, then they basically pay what they would pay anyway + $50 + shipping. Plus its a tested laptop with no known issues and is autographed, if anyone cares about that. It also helps support me as a reviewer so I can keep buying more laptops to review.

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын
  • @2:36:15 This 85w ("105w" allegedly with the mythical Dynamic Boost) is only getting the same TimeSpy score as my max watt 3070 (125w+15db) at stock. Even a "Full Power" 4070 (115w+25DB) is not beating a full power 3070ti (putting aside the massive downside of having half the memory bit bus). So prospective 4070 buyers should be looking at good deals on "last gen" Nvidia cards instead of paying more for these (debatably) worse new cards (4080 and 4090 are worthy if one has a massive budget though). This is also the same 12th gen cpu that the older laptops will have, and even so-called "13th gen" H processors are actually just refreshed alder lake parts. So one would simply be paying more $ for the same (or worse) performance..

    @slickrounder6045@slickrounder6045 Жыл бұрын
    • But why in games was this laptop only using 85 watt ???? Is there a way we can use full power?? I want to buy this lap, but when I saw that Iin games will only work at 80.or 90, I got very upset

      @danielth9879@danielth9879 Жыл бұрын
    • @@danielth9879 No idea. Its either wrong on the specs sheet, or the DB (dynamic boost) is working even worse than it normally works. So maybe it is supposed to be 85w +20DB, but as you can see it was only doing 85w. On to what you should buy- Not this.. Its an old subpar processor (my 11800H is better than it overall and can be undervolted easily), and a gimped 4070 which in it of itself is already considered one of the worst "midrange" graphic cards ever. Check out Jarrods review comparing it to the 3070ti. Your viable options are: 3070/3070ti at a good deal, 4080 if your budget can somehow afford it, 4060 if its full power and better priced, or from amd the 7600xt (we need a few more days/weeks for reviews on this, but it should be around as strong as the 4060/3070). Alternatively one can wait a few months for Amd to announce/release the 7700xt/7800xt for laptops. Those should both beat the 4070, and likely at a cheaper price (atleast the 7700xt).

      @slickrounder6045@slickrounder6045 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@slickrounder6045hey bro im really trying to find a good laptop with a good price and i found the msi katana 15 ( 1300$ ) , the katana im trying to buy is 15.6" qhd with rtx 4070 and i7-13700h ofc with also 1tb ssd and 16gb ddr5 . now please would you recommend me buying it and its new too and not used before , is there any issues i could find and i dont see any better laptop with such price when it comes to the specs , im also a gamer and a video editor , thank you in advance.

      @theexterminatorazrael2344@theexterminatorazrael23445 ай бұрын
  • Hi everyone, I have the same laptop and experience high frame latency causing random drops in FPS. I’ve noticed the GPU doesn’t seem to be reaching 105W however it is at 100%, I’ve overclocked the GPU on after burner and am very impressed with the general high FPS (90+ fps on recent AAA games on ultra settings) does anyone know any potential fixes to reduce the shutters? It may be that the CPU constantly rests between 30-40% despite the GPU running at 100%. Any suggestions would be great and I have installed all relevant drivers, GEFORCE Experience etc I also can’t seem to adjust the core voltage or fan speed of the GPU in afterburner, maybe it’s the MSI app that boosts performance I’d need to check

    @WB_Mel@WB_Mel8 ай бұрын
    • The 1% lows go to around 20fps, anyway to increase the fps so the stutters aren’t so bad and I’ll be happy

      @WB_Mel@WB_Mel8 ай бұрын
    • Check if vram is being maxed. Check if thermal throttling. Check if their are background applications hitting the cpu.

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech8 ай бұрын
    • @@GizmoSlipTech Looks like VRAM is getting maxed so I'll need to drop the graphics down, hopefully that'll sort it out. Thank you for your help and your videos are great, the main reason I bought this laptop to begin with 😄

      @WB_Mel@WB_Mel8 ай бұрын
  • Upgrade to 4080 from 4070 is noticeable. Double the VRAM, more cores, and higher clock speeds. Also, more system memory at 32GB.

    @Great_America@Great_America Жыл бұрын
    • 😊

      @bliskovka515@bliskovka51510 ай бұрын
    • 😊

      @bliskovka515@bliskovka51510 ай бұрын
    • 😊

      @bliskovka515@bliskovka51510 ай бұрын
    • 😊

      @bliskovka515@bliskovka51510 ай бұрын
    • 😊

      @bliskovka515@bliskovka51510 ай бұрын
  • Honestly I would like to see more AMD graphics laptops being made

    @Solokid404@Solokid404 Жыл бұрын
    • Legion 7 2022 is amazing and there are deals for 1700, and top model 2000. Best laptop you can buy and premium chassis.

      @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
  • I have this laptop for a one week but im angry becauce cyberpunk maxed have only 65-75 fps 🙄😔 Do you have any ideas why??

    @MAXi7FORMULA@MAXi7FORMULA Жыл бұрын
    • Power profile? Area of the game you are in? Try benchmarking the game with same settings I run and check FPS

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын
    • @@GizmoSlipTech I tried hybrid mod and discrete graphic mod always in the benchmark and the result is always the same 65-80 fps. I thought it could be the game version or g. driver.

      @MAXi7FORMULA@MAXi7FORMULA Жыл бұрын
  • Опять маленький вентилятор поставили и 3 радиатора вместо четырёх.

    @user-mt9eg3ro5p@user-mt9eg3ro5p Жыл бұрын
  • My 2080 super laptop scores 11445 timespy graphics.Guessing I won’t be getting the 4070 lol.

    @justswitched8841@justswitched8841 Жыл бұрын
    • My 3070 ti laptop gets 12564 on time spy the 4070 a joke

      @jimmyboone363@jimmyboone363 Жыл бұрын
  • Why lenovo legion 7i 12800HX 3070TI ptice is increased to $2800🤨

    @Romash.@Romash. Жыл бұрын
  • Why does the laptop GPU never uses all his wattage ?? In the specs of that specific laptop says that I has 105 wattage.

    @danielth9879@danielth9879 Жыл бұрын
    • Because the cooling system is trash

      @ultimategohan1551@ultimategohan1551 Жыл бұрын
    • at 1080p you're more likely to get CPU-bound, or at least high load on CPU, so no extra power budget for GPU Dynamic Boost.

      @ucle9955@ucle9955 Жыл бұрын
    • Katanas have always been their thinner design so yeah the cooling is probably holding it back. But the numbers look darn good so thats lame it doesn't go higher.

      @fugginrambo@fugginrambo Жыл бұрын
    • @@fugginrambo probably because if Katana is too good then no one would buy the Pulse (basically a Katana with slightly better build quality, and much better screen + full power GPU)

      @ucle9955@ucle9955 Жыл бұрын
  • You can only undervolt (HX) and (HK) CPUs from Intel now. They locked undervolting out of all 12th and 13th gen (H) chips. Pretty lame honestly overall since I definitely was able to undervolt my 4 year old 8750H laptop. Intel probably figures people will pay more $ for more tuning ability.

    @jonathanr4160@jonathanr4160 Жыл бұрын
    • This common wisdom is usually correct. However there is actually a way to Undervolt even H class processors of the 12th/13th gen with Msi. Find a reddit thread titled "12700 can be undervolted? Msi guys found a way" which shows a screenshot of the instructions to use in the Bios.

      @slickrounder6045@slickrounder6045 Жыл бұрын
    • @@slickrounder6045Well I've never seen it done and that's not exactly an ultimate solution since plenty of people have those CPUs in non-MSI laptops

      @jonathanr4160@jonathanr4160 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jonathanr4160 Sure its not an ultimate solution. It is THE solution for people with Msi (or Xmg which enabled it as well) laptops though. There is no alternative for this if one wants the benefits of undervolting. I agree we have a lack of content on LLC undervolting. I'm trying to convince Gizmo to look into it on Reddit, but its admittedly not as "simple" as a regular Undervolt is.

      @slickrounder6045@slickrounder6045 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@slickrounder6045 Is it really worth undervolting this notebook? Could you tell me the positive and negative points of undervolting?

      @vinirolaceta@vinirolaceta5 ай бұрын
    • @@vinirolaceta The most worthwhile thing you can do for a laptop. Just need to make sure your Cpu can be Undervolted (12th/13th gen "Hx" Intel chips can be Undervolted unless the manufacturer prohibits it (Acer). Zen 4 Dragon Range like the 7745Hx/7845Hx/7945Hx can be undervolted. Only the 7940HS from Zen 4 Phoenix can be undervolted. I have a 7840HS that sadly can't be Undervolted, but its still pretty amazing and Imo much better than anything from Intel). Gpu pretty much any Gpu can be Undervolted, it's pretty easy. Msi Afterburner is used for Nvidia Gpu's. One just needs to save the profile, and make sure that when windows boots it automatically loads the Gpu profile (I can direct one to videos showing how to do this, it's extremely simple). The benefits for Undervolting are enormous, especially on mobile devices. 1) Better Temps 2) Better Power Efficiency 3) Potentially higher performance due to being able to sustain higher clocks while consuming less power 4) Lower Fan Noise 5) More battery (if unplugged) 6) Less Overall Heat The list goes on and on. Undervolting is like Magic. It sounds too good to be true, but it's not. There is no downside to Undervolting (assuming one finds fully stable voltage. One can just be a bit conservative with the Undervolt and go to a point that is 100% stable). It also increases the longevity/lifespan of the chip (meanwhile Overvolting can potentially severely limit the life of Silicon). There is what's called the "Silicon Lottery". Some identically named chips are better than others. Some barely meet the threshold to qualify for the chip, and might only be able to do a modest undervolt (but it's still worthwhile). Average Silicon Lottery can get respectable Undervolts that will make a big difference. Chips that win the Silicon Lottery can do pretty extreme Undervolts that make it drastically better than a Stock chip. The reason Cpu/Gpu have a stock Voltage that is pretty "high" is so that even the absolute worst chips that qualify won't have any issues (and in the case of Gpu's, even bad Silicon Lottery ones can Overclock a bit, so the "Extra" base voltage is to account for that). Average Silicon Lottery chips can operate perfectly at lower voltages though, which is where Undervolting comes in.

      @slickrounder6045@slickrounder60455 ай бұрын
  • RTX4070 по мощности сопоставима с RTX3070ti

    @user-mt9eg3ro5p@user-mt9eg3ro5p Жыл бұрын
  • The best card for every gen since like the 600 series has been the 90ti

    @SrtLv4x@SrtLv4x Жыл бұрын
  • Considering Legion 5 2 years ago cost 1100$ for 5600H and RTX3060 I dont know if this buy makes sense

    @gytis321s2@gytis321s2 Жыл бұрын
  • se trava fica 60celsus portioli confia

    @marcelowet@marcelowet5 ай бұрын
  • For such a popular phone. Not being able to delete duplicate photos doesn’t make sense

    @gary1234945@gary1234945 Жыл бұрын
  • Budget King

    @alexthomas3622@alexthomas3622 Жыл бұрын
  • Oof i can already get 12000 Timespy graphics score with my laptop 3070 wich is .... better than the 4070....

    @Nenortiz@Nenortiz Жыл бұрын
    • The Katana has a low powered 4070 tbf

      @blasianking4827@blasianking4827 Жыл бұрын
  • Msi laptops always look so trash and cheap. Plastic, thick bezels, shit trackpad, etc

    @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
    • Yup. Sht screens too.

      @justswitched8841@justswitched8841 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@justswitched8841 Do you know if the Acer Predator Helios 300 144 hz (i7-12700H, RTX 3060) is better for $1199 usd?

      @fal2218@fal2218 Жыл бұрын
    • @Fal22 That's not a good deal . You should be able to get a 3070 ti laptop for that price. I believe micro center has an hp omen 17 with a 3070ti for 1199. I would go with that

      @justswitched8841@justswitched8841 Жыл бұрын
    • @@justswitched8841 yeah seems alright or a legion 5 for 1000$

      @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
    • @@justswitched8841 Omen is no longer available and the acer predator now is at $799 usd

      @fal2218@fal2218 Жыл бұрын
  • MSI using a trash display at this price point is unacceptable.

    @TechAgama@TechAgama Жыл бұрын
  • Nah of course it shouldn’t be compared to 3060 it should be compared against 3070 so you can see if they actually improved the xx70 product, which they didn’t. You pay for a xx70 product, so you gotta expect performance that a xx70 product should give. Yeah they made a mistake by upping the number by 1 on each gpu. The 4090m should be the 4080m and the 4080m should be the 4070m and so on. The 4060 will be even worse than the 3060. And no the 4050 will not be better or on par with the 3060. While still paying over 1000. Nvidia is a joke. Amd forever for me. Laptops and desktops. I bought a 6600m laptop for 950€. Crazy good for the money. Better performance than 3060m and you get a nice laptop overall with the Legion 5. The best laptop from 2022 is the Legion 7 Amd advantage edition with 6700m or 6850m xt if you got the money. 3080ti you pay 1000+ more and it’s worse. Amd doesn’t rip of their consumers. Everyone buying a nvidia laptop is crazy and part of the issue they are selling the laptops for that high of a price.

    @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
    • And why do I wanna wait 2 years for 4070 laptops to be priced at 1000$? You can buy TODAY, a 6800M G15 advantage for 1000$ and it’s way better than the 4070/3070ti.

      @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
    • It obviously can be validly compared to 3060 and 3070 or 3070 ti, but both the 4070 and 3060 are the third best laptop gpu at launch, and they have been priced similarly at launch, so to me it makes more sense to focus on comparing the 4070 vs the 3060, because nvidia increased the name of each tiered laptop gpu by 10 this year. Not saying Nvidia is smart here. I’m just trying to see through the marketing bs to thr actual price vs performance delivered. Historically, it is almost always better buy previous gen products for price to performance. The tricky part this year is the benefit that Frame Gen will bring. Hard to quantify how many games will use it in the future.

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын
    • @@GizmoSlipTech yeah I just think we need to see progress and getting more for the same money as time goes on. Not paying the same as 3 years ago for the same performance. Or even backwards. And I don’t know why everyone is so happy with frame generation. Hardware unboxed already showed that it looks awful in games, let alone the input lag that comes with it. It is never gonna be useful in multiplayer, single player maybe, if you can’t run the game without frame generation to get 60 fps. But at that point you already have a really weak gpu. And for single player you don’t need 120+ fps.

      @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
    • @@xruud24 the RTX 3060 came out 2 years ago, not three. And most of them was priced around 1500 or more. This thing crushes a 3060 in raw performance for the same money without frame gen. The 3070 ti is a viable option now because it is last gen on a fire sale because it is being replaced. I think a 3070 ti is a compelling option vs the 4070 for sure, especially if you mainly play competitive games and not singlr player. I will need to watch hardware unboxed video on it. I haven’t been able to tell that it was on when playing hogwarts, other than that the frame rate is much higher and getting smoother fps.

      @GizmoSlipTech@GizmoSlipTech Жыл бұрын
    • @@GizmoSlipTech if I remember correctly the best or one of the best performing 3060 was the legion 5 and that costed around 1300 and on a sale even less. Now the 4070 is priced between 1500 and 2500 and the cheapest model is the MSI katana for 1500 which uses a 100 watt variant and uses cheap components. If you want a high tdp 4070 with good chassis and screen your gonna need to pay around 2k. And the 3070 laptops also costed around 1800 to 2500$ since the beginning so I don’t really see any price/performance increase at nvidia.

      @xruud24@xruud24 Жыл бұрын
  • Ga usah bohong.. aku tau kalo kamu bangun kamu melek. Aku paling benci orang pembohong. BOHONG DOSA

    @Jvcz.@Jvcz.9 ай бұрын
  • This laptop or gigabyte aorus 15, rtx 4070, Intel 17-13700, 16gb, 1tb ssd 165hz which one is better?❤

    @joanromero147@joanromero1479 ай бұрын
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