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Mat really walked out of that movie theater experiencing the first stage of grief
Which is funny because the John Wick franchise is an opera about the 5 stages of grief
Just like when he finished Breaking Bad.
@МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 bro wtf
@МеаtСаnуоn 🅥 reported for misleading link
@@RevanXIII I also reported it
I like that Keanu Reeves was outed as an immortal and he started to age. Dude is deff an immortal and is just letting his look change to move on to a new identity.
@The FiIm Thoerists 🅥 You misspelled theorist, and that V isn't very varified.
They say in alot of ancient traditions that a truly good soul actually slows down the aging process. I believe keanu is one of these people. When i saw the clip of him on the subway, i knew right then there was something different about this guy.
He just grew a beard
There can be only One.
Just in fyi there is more then one type of immortality one in which you can't get hurt but it doesn't mean they can't age or the other way around although ik ur just jokin or smth lol
I think John Wick was only alive out of pure will. Once he achieved his mission, there was nothing left to do, and therefore, he died. It's poetic.
He died the Julius Caesar way out
sounds like darth maul and darth vader strategy
Same. I feel like he could’ve powered through those injuries with no issue, but by that point he had already spent the entire movie coming to terms with the fact that the only way out from under the High Table is in death. Plus, he really didn’t have anything left. Most of his friends were dead, Helen was gone, his house was destroyed and he would most likely continue to be dragged back in if he kept living. So he probably was just ready to die.
Exactly, he got his freedom and he doesn’t have a reason to be alive anymore
@@kidshaldeman2091 But didn't he have the whole thing about him wanting to live so that he can remember it all. Going by that, even losing everything at the end, no way he wont power through to the injuries
The John Wick that died at the end of CH 4 was the loving husband. The movie even starts with the elder telling John to forget about finding his wedding band. The events of this series happened because he couldn't grieve properly and let go of his wife, the dog she left him, their home, his car etc. The montage on the steps was him letting go. In this universe the legend of John Wick (baba yaga) literally cannot die. Maybe he's finally accepted that.
I love this ❤
*Movie rules 101* A character is never truly 'dead' until you see the *body*
And after we see the body is still could be unsure, if the person is truly dead.
Even then that's a bit iffy We see will's body in stranger things and the entire point of the first season was that he was still alive
“ deadpool “ The Exception
Movie Rules 102 A character is _isn't_ dead until you see the body. When you see the body, it's now _most likely_ dead.
@@terraprint9183only that wasn.t will that was just a fake look alike cuz remember that scene where hopper cuts open his skin and finds out that there is actually wool or some kind of wool stuffed inside him
For once MatPat is making a theory about a character being alive instead of dead. I think there's a first time for everything, indeed.
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kzhead.infoo3d7JR7kSD4 Doesn't make any sense...
Ahem Mario
Did you not see the breaking bad one
Also the Adam in saw theory
I was watching part 4 the other day. My grandfather walked in at the end and said, "Well John Wick is dead, huh!?" My response was, "He's survived worse."
You are the best person in every moletvers!!!!!?
The fact that first 3 movies take place in just 2 weeks shows how absolutely relentless Wick is
Silly Film Theory- if he died, the franchise would end
@@DJILMarioBrosMusicyou know what’s not here? Your father
No, I am your father.
Not really
@The FiIm Thoerists 🅥 ur not real u took Matpats name but used a v to look like the checkmark to fraud him Edit: I POSTED THIS REPLY A COUPLE HOURS AGO HOW IS IT ALREADY AT 28 LIKES ESPECIALLY AS A REPLY AND NOT A COMMENT
Honestly at this point I’m confused that mat may be doctor who :-:
I love how MatPat throws a spoiler warning then immediately hits us with a spoiler 😭 mans was quick with it
guy even sets up the spoiler IN THE TITLE AND THUMBNAIL
@Plankton-Sama the thumbnail, a little, but the title doesn't expose anything
It was literally a 2 second gap
@@nakulchauhan8776 it was literally the next frame. 2 seconds maybe if you were only listening and not watching.
😢
I like how it also fits to the John Wick from the PD2, since it's a game that u can actually heal yourself just from killing enemies (and maybe can also explain why the rest of the crew seems to have similar abilities)
He basically did introduce the PAYDAY gang to the wider underworld and they are working. Their services can be for hire for the right conditions and it seems like it usually is because you get Continental coins for your troubles. But on the other hand, it can be written as noncanon at least until we find out if Starbreeze collabs with the John Wick crew again since PD3 is going to the Big Apple.
Maybe it's just me but... I would have been surprised if the movie ended WITHOUT him "dying". Whether he stays that way or not. I think it was pretty clear that was gonna happen with the overall arc of the four films and the specific thematic elements in 4.
My only theory if he did die, is that he let himself die, and if he rly fully accepted it, completely satisfied with his revenge then, his healing factor wouldn’t work, mainly bc his mind can control what his body does, like some people with healing factor can die if they wanted to, it rly depends on the char
I think if he did die, it was in the first film and everything that follows is just a "fever dream." Rather than his life flashing before his eyes, it's his drive for revenge over the puppy. A case of the mind being willing and able, but the body soft and weak.
@@John_Stephens43 That's not how that works.
@@valpro4604 that's not for you to decide
@@John_Stephens43 Ash Coma theory moment
@@irionuchiha3823 Yes it is. That would be such a fucking reach to make and would make no sense
My dad introduced me to this franchise by telling me it was a movie about how a dog can change a man's life.
This is similar to how I was conned into watching Shakespeare in Love. I was told that it's a sweet romantic comedy, and then that ending annihilated me. I suspect that the person who sold me that line just wanted me to suffer like they did; which is fair.
Well... he isn't wrong.
Your dad's not wrong though, but its also like saying a horror movie is about a Shakespeare poem
@@gogauze I mean come on… It’s Shakespeare 😂
@@tacomn he wrote comedies too!
Him being some type of mutant is the only thing that makes sense to me about that series. The amount of damage John Wick takes and gives always felt supernatural if not something within the freaking matrix.
John Wick is the prequel to Constantine. 😂
take into account his upbringing. his "mother" specifically teaches that life is pain and so she pushes them to the breaking point every chance she gets so the pain and injuries dont matter. Only the goal. the pain will never end. its a part of life.
The fact that you can hear JW's breathing while he's sitting on the steps and having his memory flashback, but then the breathing stops as he flops over, has me believing that he did actually die. I hope I'm wrong, though.
Could be his consciousness. Js
You're right about his most serious injury being at the start of the first movie, but it's not when he's hit in the head. It's when they killed his puppy. That hurt the most.
As side note. Some people have especially hard heads and as experienced assassin he could be smart enough to fake his lost of consciousness. One missed opportunity is that during hit in the rail it could bend or break. This actually would absorb lot of force. And if could happen if it was poorly maintained.
Emotional wounds are still wounds
@@TheRezro was he waring a bullet proof vest? That might also add on to the odds if survival
TRUE,he should have died of heartbreak
I don't think he'll heal from that one
I like to imagine these movies as video games turned into a movie. It really fits perfectly. Endless waves of enemies, they get stronger, John just walks away all he's injuries. It's basically just a game. Also yeah John's not dead, just the legend. Winston kinda hints it saying he could be anywhere
During this playthough, John got the rare "French" ending. In order to get that one, you have to do a lot of things just right, especially during the Osaka quest
It also has the same atmosphere as a video game. It seems all open and complicated, but really it revolves around 1 single thing (in John Wick it's assassins, in COD [for example] it soliders).
Well I mean you know their code words. Take me home could mean time to finish this plan and fake my death so this case will be closed and the high table saves face
Max pain
-He has the pills he takes to replenish his health. -He levels up weapons and abilities -Travels to different maps -Has boss fights
Vigo describes John Wick as a man of "unbeatable levels of determination, strong will and a presence of pure focus." Could you imagine what John Wick could do with a Green Lantern Power Ring? He'd be unstoppable.
I think the suit stain drying but no wound on his body absolutely confirms it, I mean the attention to detail in these movies is insane and that couldn’t have been by accident
If keanu keeps making these movies ill buy every one. For real
@The FiIm Thoerists 🅥 blud wants to be a scammer so bad💀💀💀
Here is the full clip://kzhead.info/sun/rdufqtiMe2Nqra8/bejne.html
Take out his Bone marrow. Just Michael Miars
sadly i wouldnt
Consoomer
This video came at the right time. I literally just watched John Wick 4 and saw how thick his plot armor was.
@The FiIm Thoerists 🅥 Faker
@@TheFiImThoeristswhat about killing Michael Miars
yeah idk if they will make superpowers canon tho
Same here
same, yesterday
~to be fair~ Keanu Reeves has been playing the character for almost a decade now. I don't think it's a stretch to think they'd like to leave while on top. Spin-offs seem to be in the works with "Ballerina" and "Caine"
I like the idea that John Wick has super powers and how this powers are involved in a more realisitic setting. Not so exagerated like in a super hero movie but only enough super human for an action movie.
Ive been missing these science-based theories. You've been emphasizing on lore-based ones for a while now, and I'm glad to have some variety!
Science-based/reality-based theories have been and will always be the best
Finding the ideas for the science-based theories is much harder than the lore ones, idk how he has been able to do it for so long lol.
Oh yeah me to, the lore ones are fine but the science ones are definitely the best
Probably a necessity now since Austin left. There'd be a vacuum of science content on the channel
I knew he didnt die because of the card scene. Everyone had their own set of cards where they all cheated. John pulled the deadman's hand. He literally cheated death.
I MISSED THAT COMPLETELY!!! O.O
Can i just say, I love that you refer to an NCBI article? I use them for my college papers all the time. Perfect for biology research
When I first saw the title to this video, I wondered if it would get into the concept of quantum immortality, which is a thought experiment in quantum physics... that basically John Wick is so lucky that his luck will even prevent his death from ageing. Once he started talking about the duel, my theory now is that they both worked together to deliberately hit non-lethal areas to pull a fast one and allow Wick to fake his death.
Keanu was involved with a comicbook called Bezerk(or something like that). He helped with the plot and let his 'likeness' be used for the main character. . .and it's about a man who was born. . .ten thousand years ago and can't die.
for anyone interested its called BRZRKR
For a sec there I thought you were talking about the japanese manga Berserk by Kentaro Miura, whose MC Guts is seemingly unkillable aswell, although instead of being immortal, dude is just far too pissed off to die
Ain't that the comic that MoistCritikal got?
BRZRKR
I think you mean Highlander?
The grass on John’s grave was also green. Assuming that he was actually dead, and they visited his grave very soon after his death, his grave should be dirt because they buried him. Obviously there’s nothing under there if the grass is still green immediately after his death
Ever heard of sod?
@@on_the_occasion9879I don't think freshly placed sod would look that good
@@JonasCelestine0 debatable
good point!
Smart
John is DEFINITELY alive! There were several hints, you mentioned a lot of them in this video. The other is that Winston kind of suggested that maybe John take a different approach, so he didn't keep getting hunted after. Brilliant if you ask me. Unfortunately, I think, that one dudes dog is gonna die or something for John to come back again.
Maybe Winston just ordered the grave plot to be made before the duel just incase everything didnt go according to plan and both himself and Wick got killed. Earlier in the film Wick asked if he would get those words put on his grave. Winston just ordered to have his wishes carried out before the duel to play it safe if things went south.
Thank You for always here with me in my sorrow and happiness, you will always be treasured and appreciated from the very core of my heart 🥰
Fun fact: the John Wick films are bullet accurate, which means that the amount of bullets flying through the air is what would be flying through the air in a real firefight.
Not in John Wick 4. Did you really watched the movie or are just saying so because other do?
@@horizontea They all had extended mags, look at the mags hang from the guns Edit: The only one, I think, without an extended mag is John Wick lol
At multiple points throughout 4 i noticed that john went abnormally long without reloading. The fight at the arc really caught my attention, he was still using the viper he got from bowery king but at one point my count for shots fired without a reload was at 32. With a 21 round capacity magazine. Maybe i missed some reloads? Im planning to rewatch to specifically confirm/refute that and double check to make sure i didnt miss any reloads/weapon swaps.
@@N008Nightmare they were super focused on it in the first 3 so i would expect the same in the 4th, unless reloads got edited out
@@kpenis17 thats part of why ill be rewatching it to double check. It was something that caught my attention. Giving it benefit of the doubt by counting anytime not shooting with hands not visible as a reload. I think the fact that the first 3 were so good about it, and the sheer chaos of the fights, might have made it seem like he wasnt? Wont know for sure until i rewatch
I always thought that the reason he died in chapter 4 was because he was free from the high table and could live his life in peace as well as he helped his last few friends. Basically meaning that he has nothing left pushing him to continue living, like the adrenaline in his body is gone and he’s tired from all the fighting that he succumbs to wounds that wouldn’t have killed him normally. At least that was the only reason i could think of that he could die
same, like Padme from star wars, he had completed his life and just gave up on living.
But John also said that he wanted to stay alive to remember his wife in peace.
but then john wick 5 is revealed..
@@Gaellka your kidding... Right?
@@Underboy-jh6nr no, but they also said it might not revolve around wick himself
3:44 this observation is BRILLIANT (and accurate)!!
At 7:13 when Matpat says he jumps out of the fourth story made me remember a friend who once fell out of the sixth story and survived and that was when we were little
The John Wick series is gonna reach a billion dollars one day.
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@The FiIm Thoerists 🅥 fake
🤖
all of them combined... already DID
It should have by now
My head cannon is that John Wick just has sooooo much Focus and Willpower that he can't die until he achieves his goals, and once he does by the end of Chapter 4, he just keels over cause he got nothing left.
Isn't really head canon when it's true. In the first one when they talk about how legendary Wick was and that the guy literally pissed off the wrong person, he spoke about how indominable his will was. Calling Wick a "superhero" is just lazy.
his will is just that ironclad that he is actually dead by the end of chapter 3 but his will wont allow the body to stop until the end of chapter 4 when everything has been resolved.
Okay, so he's the sort whose ghost would reanimate his own dead body and become a vampire or something if he felt the need. And there's your Chapter 5.
I felt that if he did actually die on the steps it was because he was finally able to die a free man and that was why he refused to die until then. But, it seemed strange how he said about going home, then next scene he's alone on the steps and collapses. That felt like a setup to make others believe he's dead but he isn't.
I didn't realize how many Theory channels you have. Haha Good stuff all around!
Also for a predicted note, the idea that John would fake his death is mentioned slightly during one of the conversations about the rules, and last we checked the high table never agreed to remove his bounty, just that he no longer had to work for them
Not to mention that....come on do y'all really trust the Table to keep it's promises?
@@SvElAdKe They're huge rule sticklers, so...yeah, I would
Um yes they did agree to remove the bounty on him, that was one of John’s conditions
@@apartcube559 ya they removed the bounty he was given a clean slate.
I mentioned this to my dad when we watched it. He said it was covered in the deal. Man is delusional.
The fact that John Wick is canonically connected to Payday and Hardcore Henry, both franchises that deal with superhero esque/supernatural abilities, helps MatPats case here
Wait Hardcore Henry??? I fucking love that movie! What's the connection to Wick?
@@James11111 John wicks is in Payday, hardcore Henry is in payday, therefore, John Wick is connected to Hardcore Henry
@@vancanninjaman1217Them by that logic, he's connected to Fortnite.
@@JeannieLove which is true, because that's the logic behind all the third party cosmetics in that game
@@vancanninjaman1217 the only one that canon wise has some logic to it is payday and john wick because you can find the payday gangs wanted posters in the background i forget which film though
John Wick is just Neo with his memory erased.
The amount of research you put into this is astounding. Good nob.
I like the idea of John having some supernatural power and the evidence is there, but I’m surprised MatPat didn’t talk about the power of adrenaline cuz it seems like John is running solely on that until he frees himself
The cars driving into him and John getting up and walking away/fighting was a bit too much for me to believe he was just "a normal guy/human"
It’s supposed to be modern day mythology, he completely filled out his character arc (personally they set him back for the fourth film to do this) but there’s nothing left for him to do. I would like it if he somehow managed to settle down and run a dog shelter or something like that but everything foreshadowed his death like the whole length of the film
Isn't that what Mr Nobody is trying to do? Do they become business partners or something.
Be cool if he is alive if some character in one of the spin-offs comes to him for help like he did to so many others.
5:20 I came back to this video for a second watch JUST to find the gun fact. Thanks MatPat for making a writer's day slightly easier.
I DO like the idea of John being far more durable/having rapid healing…but theres a flaw in the theory that I just thought of-if he has a healing factor…. Then how come he hasn’t regenerated the finger that he lost?
Mabye it’s because after it was cut off, they seared it with the hot scolding metal. I am no expert in this kind of area, so I could be wrong.
Maybe because it’s not an opened wound and once it was seared his body considered it “healed” idk. lol good point.
The whole idea of John wick having superpowers makes sense as John wick technically takes place in the same world as the payday games which itself has a person with the power of psychokineses in its live action videos
The Payday universe is wild. John Wick, Hardcore Henry, Hotline Miami, Scarface, and Point Break all take place within Payday's overall canon. What a terrifying world to live in.
@@SpaceCatJeffy Hardcore Henry is cannon to payday?????
Honestly surprised MatPat never did a Game Theory on the PayDay games
@@waifuwaffles7697 Yeah, the character Jimmy is from Hardcore Henry
@@waifuwaffles7697 Yep, based off the live action trailer and two of the heists, Payday takes place sometime before Hardcore Henry does. You can even see Jimmy's duct tape mask very briefly in one of the scenes in the actual movie.
Me: Starts the video and passes the spoiler warning because "how bad can it be?" Also me almost immediately: *Internal endless screaming*
Oof. XD
He did warn you. Tut tut.
john wick has the best plot armor in existance
I didn't think Cain could tell what cards were there, he knew what they would be from the other hands dealt. Each hand had meaning, and they pointed out that dealer was a cheat that gave all 3 specific hands.
I really did expected him to appear behind a tree or something at his own burial.
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No thats a vin diesel thang
Michael De Santa type beat
@@zettai7152 John in Wickness Protection
bro is joeph joestar
I don't think it was the injuries that killed him but rather nothing to live for. His mission was completed, his goals were all achieved. For once he was at peace allowing his body to stop as he passed away.
Nothing to live for? Oh man you don't know John Wick. He made promises. If he did not have anything to live for the franchise would have ended when his wife died. Did you even watch John Wick?
Or it could be all the bullets hitting him in the suit would have Liquified his insides and left them leaking out his asshole.
MAN I WANT MORE FILM, A FINALE, WHERE HE BRINGS DOWN THE HIGH TABLE ITSELF
But there's already plans for a 5th...
This would make sense if there wasn't a fifth movie on the way 😂
Stage 1: Denial
Matt Discovers Plot Armour😨
I like how Caine stabbed one of the assassins with a pencil, a metaphor from the first movie when the dad of the guy who killed John's dog told him how he saw John killed 3 men with a pencil
Both in the first movie, and during the begining of the second.
@TheFiImThoeristshello The Film Thoerists! FAKE
John did also in the previous parts :)
I like to think that they implied that John learned this trick from caine. They were old friends after all...
With a fucking... pencil.
Surprised he never mentioned how if John actually was dead and buried the grass wouldn’t have fully grown back yet as that’s clearly the first Time they visited his grave based on the dialogue also their dialogue probably means they (well only Winston initially) knew he was alive. The movie also focused on the dog turning it’s head to something meaning it was important and that John was probably watching from a distance.
yeah, the dog saw something
@@rizukie it's always the dog in these movies. They know everything..😊
what if he had some kind of brace in his armor to help with back snapping
@@buteocks4020 what does that have to do with the comment?
Kinda reminds me of the start of gtav when Michael is watching his grave from a distance
If we think about it, it actually makes sense that John would still be alive at the end of the franchise's fourth installment, since now that a fifth installment has been officially confirmed, John could definitely defeat and finish off the main antagonist of the franchise; The High Table.
The thing with him falling on his spine, is that your calculation only takes into account the energy at the moment of contact (as if his body is a dry plank) But his body doesn't just stop accelerating when his spine hits something, it keeps going, it would have 100% broken his back.
The fact you didn’t just say “The reason Wick has to be alive is because Kane is alive so Wick has to come back to finish him” is commitment to the job
What do you mean?
john wick 5 is already in early production
They're friends though?
Nah he wanted him to be free too (+ If youve seen the post credits scene, John wont be needed)
Oh, I didn’t know they were friends, haven’t seen the movie yet, it’s very expensive for a rental
Stahelski: "MatPat, I want to make John Wick 5 without sacrificing my creative integrity." MatPat: "Say no more."
Say less
5:39 What about internal bleeding? I don't think he actually died either, just saying
Maybe he is immortal because this is just an off branch story of the Matrix. It has 2 of the main characters in it, his love of guns from both series, and the ridiculous stunts make it very believable.
I could buy it. Even with three suits suggesting they are on the Smith side of the aisle here and the High Table is the robot overlords
I think another important thing to note is the fact that the high table is RICH and well connected. Not a stretch to say john got some of their best doctors and surgeries. Lets not forget about the drugs he could’ve gotten in between the movies.
that wouldn’t be possible after the second movie, because remember he got cut off from everything for breaking the rules. unless, said doctors also broke the rules to help John because they were good friends with him. so i can see your point.
@@fearlesstay he was reinstated in 4.
@@daydreamers8254 wasnt he only reinstated with the russian family? also at the end of the duel doesnt mr krabs say "your duty to the high table is concluded" or something like that?
7:19 that noise 💀
I think no one in the John Wick universe have any power. I think that Caine was able to "see" his cards because he's only partially/legally blind or something similar, that's why he has to put the cards up close to his face to "see" it.
Caine has no eyes...
15:30 I guarantee John is a Ribs/steak (some kinda red meat) guy. My reasoning? He drinks Bourbon, which is a southern American (think Kentucky) form of whisky. And personally when I think of that area and food, Smoked Ribeye comes to mind immediately.
Make a video with a theory from Watchmen Director's Cut
I LITERALLY said to my friend after watching this movie “I think John Wick is still gonna be alive” and he was like “bRo tHeY LiTeRaLlY BuRiEd HiM” and i still argued. I just sent this video to him. THANK YOU MATPAT.
@The FiIm Thoerists 🅥 bro why you pretending to be matpat
@@dshadeproductions8258 he is matpat
If you don’t see a Body…
@@qy-exotic7717 Only if they forgot how to spell the word theorist
@@qy-exotic7717 click the channel. no videos.
Also in the payday 2 lore both John wick and hard-core Henry are canon, so there's at least one storyline that could explain his enhanced abilities.
1:56 think about it, if he was still alive EVERYBODY would be after him and because he wants "retirement" he can't do it with everybody asking him to do something else for them so in John Wick fashion he pulls the uno reverse card of his "death"
“Those who cling to life, die” “Those who cling to death, live” I love the parallel between the lines
It's actually a scripture phrases
MattPatt: John wick can't die. James Bond: Am I a joke to you?
Well, he probably wins against James bond mid diff He has not as much combat experience
@@diogoferreira7427 What no. It's a Death battle reference.
@@barrytremblay4906 Death battle was BS.
@@theburgerfryer what is that supposed to mean?
Kinda unfair to pit a fight with a realistic Assassin against a spy with futuristic weapons and abilities so death battle dropped the ball on that one if it was a battle without futuristic gadgets and based purely on skill bond would no doubt be double o dead
Pretty sure they went with this ending as Keanu Reaves did want a break from the franchise. They could always say that he died die her if he doesn’t want to do another film or he faked his death if he does.
10:25 read about this once somewhere.The human body bones are not made to endure harsh forces but each time they are broken they repair themselves they become thicker,stronger and denser to withstand the said harsh condition they were put in.John is a world renowned and feared assassin the top of the top so in theory during the course of his entire career let's say he fell off a few building during his first few rookie year of the job as a last ditch method of escaping or getting rammed out of a window that would mean his bone would have been broken and healed over and over again giving him some pretty big and tough bone and let's say as a rookie john didn't know how to minimize the damage of falling off a building so he may have landed or hit something against his back a few time explaining how he could still walk in chapter 4
If chapter 4 honestly does show us the death of John Wick, it does make for a pretty cool ending and closes the book in a pretty definitive and classic way. The only thing I would have liked to have seen was the impossible task; the mission that gave us the dead bodies upon which Viggo's entire organization was built.
They are making prequels and stuff, if I'm not wrong the impossible task would be John fighting the Italian Mafia since the Russian Mob beat them out in our timeline and he had to get a marker from the Italian (Santino?) seat at the high table probably to keep them from going after their kin, would be a cool thing to see!
@@JHouston62yeah a few years ago they mentioned a prequel TV series called The Continental following a young Winston. Haven't heard anything in awhile so I don't know if it's still a thing.
"those who cling to life, die" Apt
What if John Wick the Assassin died but John was reborn. Maybe this is him actually leaving the organization, a falsified death.
There is a comic book on that, read it to know what John did for Viggo
Funny how, of all the dramatic falls and impacts John sustained, it's the often trivialized club to the head that's the most dangerous. And it's such a common storytelling trope, too.
For real. Knocking someone in the head is a fairly consistent way to disrupt, or outright stop, most autonomic processes. If you nail the right spot along the occipital bone, you can significantly disrupt someone's vision and coordination with a light impact. Folks who are trained to accurately strike with significant force, either hand-to-hand or with a weapon, can reliably unalive someone by causing cardiac or pulmonary arrest. And that's just the immediate consequences; well before we get to the long term problems associated with concussions and TBIs. Don't hit people in the head, especially if you don't know what you're doing, unless you're ready for them to be dead.
Nah, dude folded like a cheap Walmart cot landing on a bar or whatever in the middle of his spine after falling at least ten feet. Twice. Once at the end of three and once at some point in four. That’s paralysis or worse for a normal human, every time.
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4:19 The duelling pistols they are using if they don't have rifling are incredibly inaccurate.
To be fair, maybe his increasingly limited word count film to film partly comes from the concussion impact, he's thinking harder for fewer words
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*Cantonese swears*
I really liked the idea of him dying at the end of his journey. He wanted to die a free man and be with his wife again, and I take a certain satisfaction from the idea that he did exactly that.
Me too, I loved the ending. He dying a free man was all he wanted.
Same. Also, I don't think he was killed. He actually *let himself die* because after he was liberated from the underground business, he simply done it. He was finished and his job was done, so John knew he could finally rest.
Honestly, I agree. I'm kinda disappointed they're continuing the saga, it was such a perfect ending, and even left you wondering if he was really dead.
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It was a bittersweet ending for me. On the one hand, his mission was complete, and he could finally rest and be with his wife. On the other hand, it ends the franchise. My first thought was that they use the tracker guy with the dog as the new face of the franchise and continue it that way. 🤔
I watched the first movie a bunch of times because i never had the idea to watch the other parts, so one day i started to watch the other movies like2 weeks ago and i was shocked when he died, it was like ur driving through the hillside and you just quickly tilt the wheel to fall down to your death/major injuries.
I love it. It makes perfect sense and it makes for a good action movie, complete with "mistakes" that were actually intentional.
I never realised just how realistic the John Wick movies are!
They try to be very fun accurate! The first two movies were pretty attentive to detail on reloading and ammo count for each gun
@@defiantnight2668 I know, that's why I love them!
One thing that seriously bugs me about these movies is that John Wick had hundreds, probably thousands of trained killers coming after him, AND NOBODY THOUGHT OF HIRING A SNIPER?!?!?
They did try and do this John Wick Chapter 2
They did this before
There was Marcus, but then again... I don't think that a sniper has worked well over someone who's just as skilled in distance more than he is at first to first combat.
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He didn't die, but we will never know until he picks up his car Christmas 2030
Just to mention the 10 30 marker, I'm pretty sure he could have enough control to slant himself to avoid a back break but it might result in a shattered shoulder blade and several broker back ribs
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You should do a theory on how much Kevlar you need to make a near bulletproof blazer and suit. Found that a bit comical how everyone was safe from point blank shots
A KZhead channel called hacksmith made the suit
I don't think it's kevlar but those bulletproof suits exist irl, small calibre rounds are very easy to protect against
About the falls, he is also wearing clothing that is meant to take impacts for him even able to stop bullets at point blank ranges so he has a protective layer of flexible armor on his back every time he falls. Now onto the super powers aspect, it is also possible that John wick has him self a bone density and even a muscle density mutation. He is shown to take many hits that would normally cause a lot of damage to a person and continue going before they heal and I think that may have been do to his bones being denser than normal making them stronger which would make him heavier. Additionally as death battle points out, John wick has some level of super strength, and as someone who has a Myostatin muscle hypertrophy mutation, I can speak with experience on this subject. In my case I have about 1.3 times the amount of muscle strands per mm across my entire body or in other words, normal people have about 50 strands per millimeter and I have about 65 per millimeter. This allows me to lift and push weight like a professional body builder dispite the fact I am barely more fit than the average man and my weight would tell you otherwise as I weigh 220 pounds but look like your average 180 pound 5,10 male just because the extra muscle strands make me heavier. I have also learned that muscle helps soften impacts and having more of it would absorb more force than normally possible which would again explain another reason that John wick can take all that damage and keep moving.
Wow, very interesting. I did not know such a thing existed!
MatPat also erroneously factored in acceleration in the club fall. Horizontal to vertical momentum should have been on a parabolic calculation, not inertial-neutral. Also, like you, I carry a higher bone density, increased muscular torsion and with training one can have their muscle memory to just, "Go loose" when falling from heights. Yeah, John Wick is very alive after his falls.
@@Guildguy457 I only have increased muscle strand count not a bone density mutation but I have researched it. It is cool to see some else similar to me responding to my comment though.
I love how there's only 1 fall that should have killed him and we ignored how the suit probably improves his odds a bit on top of that
The suit prevents bullets from going through it’s not some magic armor that negate damage, when John got his suit the guy said that bullets won’t go through but it will be painful suggesting that the kinetic energy from the bullets are still going into him
That's not how bulletproof armor works bro.
Itd only stop his back from shattering if it was hard body armor, not soft.
this makes so much sense. Easily one of the best theories on the channel. If this is actually cannon i'll be so happy!
Would the bullet proof suit help to dissipate some of the force from falling on the fire escape?
Probably not, mostly because it's still flexible like normal fabric
IMO that is something else that should have been touched on. Whilst Johns suit is bulletproof, they make a clear point of telling and showing the audience that he still feels those shots. Whilst they wouldn’t penetrate him, his bones would be broken by the things he gets hit by.
Honestly those suits are the biggest macguffin of the whole series. But that being said, there are some instances that indicate body armor can make a difference in car accidents. Massad Ayoob has a good story about just such an occasion, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to assume the suits could help marginally
Going off the healing factor, he may have accelerated growth/regeneration much like the clones from Star Wars. We also see how fast his hair grew from chapters 1-3
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In JW2, John goes to meet Winston on the rooftop. There is a moment where the building stonework is directly behind his head, which are wings. I've always figured that was foreshadowing John as the Angel of Death.
Remember however, he was wearing armor during those falls, armor that reliably and repeatedly stopped small arms fire; most likely the armor material is capable of efficiently spreading impact force over its entire area. This would have certainly absorbed some of the impact during his falls...as a result the fall onto the fire escape would not be equivalent to concentrating all that force on his lower spine but over his entire torso.
My man folded like a cheap Walmart cot. Modern body armor really doesn’t do that all that well, it’s mostly steel plate. Sure, you’re slightly better off having a steel plate rammed into your spine than that little bar, but not much better off.
I agree with derekeastman but you made a good point.
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He forgets the armor for the wounds too,
@@derekeastman7771 Late to this but... I always considered the armor they use in these movies to be super-advanced futuristic-type armor made from some innovative material. I just remember the characters in chapter 4 using their suit plating to block bullets like they were nothing which to that extent isn't something normal armor can do. If it's something like I've explained it has to play some type of unearthly positive effect on the damage wick has taken over the movies. Then again I'm no expert in body armor and I'm using my one watch of chapter 4 from months ago as my reference.
I love this style of oldschool theory. We all know that the lack of scars etc is just cause they dont care enough and it's supposed to be silly. But it's just so much fun to think that it actually has a deeper meaning
I am so glad you did not try to argue something like the Movies just happen in his head before he dies from his Injuries he took in the first one, explaining how he can be an unstoppable badass. Would be too easy of course too
I really missed MathPat! Been a while since a Theory with calculations