Battle Stations: Messerschmitt 262 - Race for the Jet (War History Documentary)

2014 ж. 26 Сәу.
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Battle Stations: Messerschmitt 262 - Race for the Jet (War History Documentary)
Documentary combining archive footage and colour re-enactments to chronicle the desperate race between the Nazis and Allies to create the first jet-powered plane and win the battle for aerial supremacy during World War Two. While Britain's leading engineer Frank Whittle had to struggle against official indifference, Germany's Hans von Ohain had the full backing of his country's war machine : support which eventually helped him build the fearsome Messerschmitt 262.

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      @franciscokaiden4695@franciscokaiden46952 жыл бұрын
  • The first operational jet fighter with an axial flow engine.. It was the future and amazing engineering feat of a country WHO already suffered under material shortage...

    @barracuda7018@barracuda70187 жыл бұрын
  • Messerschmitt was an engineering genius.

    @petert9110@petert91104 жыл бұрын
    • So was the meteor

      @Bonkers-yl2jd@Bonkers-yl2jd3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Bonkers-yl2jd the meteor was never used in actual combat

      @jaykurt6537@jaykurt65373 жыл бұрын
    • The Meteor was used in actual combat. Who told you it wasn’t?

      @Bartonovich52@Bartonovich523 жыл бұрын
    • @@jaykurt6537 the meteor was used in combat in ww2( sadly we never saw it fight a German jet fighter) but was only used against rockets and normal planes. It’s was used extensively in the Korean War where it was severely outclassed by American and Russian jets of the time.

      @yoyonono51497@yoyonono514973 жыл бұрын
    • @@Bartonovich52 ,Try the Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Meteor "The Meteor saw limited action in the Second World War." " The Meteor was initially used to counter the V-1 flying bomb threat. 616 Squadron Meteors saw action for the first time on 27 July 1944, when three aircraft were active over Kent. These were the first operational jet combat missions for the Meteor and for the Royal Air Force. After some problems, especially with jamming guns, the first two V1 "kills" were made on 4 August.[105] By war's end, Meteors had accounted for 14 flying bombs.[106] After the end of the V-1 threat, and the introduction of the ballistic V-2 rocket, the RAF was forbidden to fly the Meteor on combat missions over German-held territory for fear of an aircraft being shot down and salvaged by the Germans. " "In the 1950s, the Meteor became increasingly obsolete as more nations introduced jet fighters, many of these newcomers having adopted a swept wing instead of the Meteor's conventional straight wing; in RAF service, the Meteor was replaced by newer types such as the Hawker Hunter and Gloster Javelin. ". " A total of 890 Meteors were lost in RAF service (145 of these crashes occurring in 1953 alone), resulting in the deaths of 450 pilots. Contributory factors in the number of crashes were the poor brakes, failure of the landing gear, the high fuel consumption and consequent short flight endurance (less than one hour) causing pilots to run out of fuel, and difficult handling with one engine out due to the widely set engines. The casualty rate was exacerbated by the lack of ejection seats in early series Meteors".

      @hurri7720@hurri77202 жыл бұрын
  • This is the kind of stuff to play after midnight on Nat Geo history

    @Bonkers-yl2jd@Bonkers-yl2jd3 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for posting this bro.

    @juliodyarzagaray@juliodyarzagaray Жыл бұрын
  • I had the incredible honor of putting my hands on the extremely rare two seat trainer version of the 262 in Pensacola, Florida when I was based there in the Navy. The sad thing is that only Adolf Galland truly recognized the strategic potential the Me-262 possessed. The problem was that Germany wanted a quick war on the cheap, but by early 1942 it was clear this wouldn't be a quick war. Had Hitler not insisted on it being designed to carry bombs, it could have entered service by the summer of 1943, a time when Germany still had access to the high quality materials needed for its engines. Not only that, but the Allied bombing offensive had only been going on for about a year and air superiority in Western Europe was not yet in their favor. The appearance of the Me-262 in July 1943 would have been devastating to that bomber offensive. Simply put, Germany missed decisive victory by a factor of just a year.

    @jebbroham1776@jebbroham17763 жыл бұрын
    • I recall somewhere, Galland saying that yes, had the Me262 been available earlier, it would have had a good chance of stopping at least the daylight USAAF strategic bombing campaign. He went on to state that the end result would merely have been that the Western Allies stopped the Russians later, and further West.

      @damianmurphy6133@damianmurphy61332 жыл бұрын
    • I don’t think soo the night bombing campaign would have still flatten Germany. Hitler was told in 1941. He did not have the industrial might to wage war on a world level. A week later the gentleman died in a mysterious plan crash

      @ecosby100@ecosby1002 жыл бұрын
    • One would almost assume you are sad that Germany lost.

      @UrosMaksic@UrosMaksic2 жыл бұрын
    • @@UrosMaksic your a clown shoe you don’t know me sucker

      @ecosby100@ecosby1002 жыл бұрын
    • It may have slowed the allied victory down but defeat was inevitable eventually.

      @mirandahotspring4019@mirandahotspring4019 Жыл бұрын
  • What ever is said about the 262 one thing is un-argueable, it was a very handsome and clean looking aircraft with it's shark like silhouette. I've heard it said that if an aircraft looks like it should fly well it probably will, the 262 had that in spades, it looked fast setting still, and with more advanced engines I bet it would have been much faster.

    @Titus-as-the-Roman@Titus-as-the-Roman5 жыл бұрын
    • The plane looks different to different people. An aeroplane is made by people who think it is beautiful. So the saying that you have given is empty. The silhouette? An aeroplane is, above all, its wings. Look at the silhouettes XP-54, XP-55, XP-56, XP-79. And a successful plane is the Vampire. Better luck than the Me 262 after the war, when everyone had a choice of solutions.

      @jryuotube@jryuotube3 жыл бұрын
  • One of my favourite German aircraft. When I saw one in the RAF Museum it looked very sleek like a shark.

    @andrewmontgomery5621@andrewmontgomery56213 жыл бұрын
    • Look up the Sears-Haack body and you will understand why it is shaped this way. Just covered it in my Aerodynamics exam.

      @jarfmusic@jarfmusic10 күн бұрын
  • HunterShark. O 262 continua lindo mesmo nos dias de hoje. É intemporal. Obrigado por este mágnifico doc.

    @anicetolandeiro6652@anicetolandeiro66522 жыл бұрын
  • lots of good info

    @ty2u@ty2u7 жыл бұрын
  • good documentary

    @whynot-tomorrow_1945@whynot-tomorrow_19459 жыл бұрын
  • Shit got serious real quick, 27:08

    @irfan123100@irfan1231007 жыл бұрын
    • irfan123100 q

      @papagary7723@papagary77236 жыл бұрын
    • It got serious in 1937 when the Japanese fired the unofficial first gunshot of WW2 at the Chinese army.

      @petert9110@petert91104 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@petert9110😂

      @leo13246@leo13246 Жыл бұрын
  • Matt Berry doing some dubbing! Love it.

    @Bobber256@Bobber2564 жыл бұрын
  • 35:00 P51 spawn campers...

    @iaintnomanstealer@iaintnomanstealer7 жыл бұрын
    • @AquaticBoardwalkEngineer r/wooosh

      @James-sh8mu@James-sh8mu5 жыл бұрын
  • Whittle hadn't the gov't behind his project. Ohain did, so went the jet race. The Me 262 was a milestone aircraft. In the sky it had no peers. The most accomplished pilots of the Luftwaffe had been pruned back so greatly in number the remaining pilots' inexperience flying this aircraft served to negate its many aerial advantages.

    @vivianoni9565@vivianoni95654 жыл бұрын
    • ​@Mactrip100speed? The Me 163 has a higher speed. The training was hindered, for example, by the fact that there was no welding and the chassis was not driven by designers without American experience. The Vampire and Shooting Star proved to be excellent training planes.

      @jryuotube@jryuotube3 жыл бұрын
    • Whittles engine wasn't axial flow either like the Jumo 004.

      @hurri7720@hurri77202 жыл бұрын
    • @@hurri7720 Whittle's engines actually had more thrust. The Jumo 004B weighed 1,585 lb, and produced 1,980 lbf of thrust. The Power Jets W.2/850 weighed 950 lb, and produced 2,485 lbf of thrust.

      @anzaca1@anzaca12 жыл бұрын
  • the me262 is like having a digital mp3 player in an analog phonograph world.

    @Wayswaysapi@Wayswaysapi4 жыл бұрын
    • not a good comparison...

      @oldestgamer@oldestgamer3 жыл бұрын
    • @@oldestgamer why?

      @mikesmith7497@mikesmith74973 жыл бұрын
    • @@mikesmith7497 Because an MP3 player is a shit way of playing music compared to analog vinyl or SACD or even a CD, MP3 is a very loss/compression format. The 262 was the most advanced fighter of the war, and MP3 is just the opposite.

      @oldestgamer@oldestgamer3 жыл бұрын
    • @@oldestgamer Nice to see another audiophile.

      @squidman556@squidman5562 жыл бұрын
  • The Germans were the first to find out that making the jet engines hot section parts out of nickel alloys will extend the working lifespans. But Allied blockades made it unavailable so they had to make the engines out of steel. Hence the engines suffer from VERY BAD RELIABILITY issues and SHORT SERVICE LIVES. To this day, even modern jet engines, the hot sections are still made of nickel alloys.

    @yatsumleung8618@yatsumleung86185 жыл бұрын
    • @Mactrip100 compare it to a modern Goblin.

      @jryuotube@jryuotube3 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, and they countered that by making them so the engines could be swapped out in two hours. An old guy I lived next door to in Germany had been a Luftwaffe pilot who had flown them, he still had his flight suit complete with parachute helmet and goggles on a mannequin in his living room!

      @mirandahotspring4019@mirandahotspring4019 Жыл бұрын
    • “COANDA-1910” - the first jet propulsor for airplane.Romanian inventor Henri Coandă!

      @MrManole19@MrManole19 Жыл бұрын
  • Doesn’t matter what country but to me i’m so amazed by what pilots do.. It’s truly remarkable when you think about it.. Don’t like nazis but these men are flat out amazing..To learn how to fly those jets in just four days blows my mind.. It was completely new technology that the world had never seen.. Thats pretty damn amazing...

    @Kayluv101@Kayluv101 Жыл бұрын
  • It may have started the dawn of the new Jet age but it did not end the prop engine still in use today.

    @WhynottBelieve@WhynottBelieve4 жыл бұрын
  • The Me 262 was one of the greatest planes ever built. Against overwhelming horrible odds, over 1400 were produced and it was BETTER than the allied jets of the same time period. Those who say otherwise know little about the 262 or the Arado 234. Many Nazi haters love to ridicule and mock this plane, but it was the forerunner of all modern jets today.

    @germangallantry5472@germangallantry54728 жыл бұрын
    • German Gallantry ummm. the British meteor and American p-80 could easly fight me262. nothing against the 262 but saying it was better then allied jets is wrong.

      @jarredingersoll2772@jarredingersoll27727 жыл бұрын
    • they were not even 300 mph, they could not touch 262

      @MrBritdog2@MrBritdog27 жыл бұрын
    • soaringtractor p80 and f80 never did 600mph and there were variants of thr me 262 like the hg 3 witch could come close to 600.but these models never got of thr drawing board.

      @marcosc4962@marcosc49627 жыл бұрын
    • Jarred Ingersoll well the meteor has weeker engines and its a bit slower then the me 262.

      @marcosc4962@marcosc49627 жыл бұрын
    • German Gallantry I hate the nazis but love this plane it's absolutely amazing can't wait to unlock it in war thunder lol

      @crf-vr6mk@crf-vr6mk6 жыл бұрын
  • "Only the gods know".

    @Nothingschanged@Nothingschanged5 жыл бұрын
  • Luftwaffe “We have the first fighter Jet!” Hitler replies “I want them to be used as tanks!, put treads on it!”

    @damnedcarrot@damnedcarrot3 жыл бұрын
    • fun fact,, they did planned to put a bmw 003 jet turbine engine with 1150hp on next gen panther, the panther II. which could be the first tank to be powered by jet turbine like m1a1 abrams.

      @superknightlol@superknightlol3 жыл бұрын
    • @@superknightlol They had many units in testing phase.

      @squidman556@squidman5562 жыл бұрын
  • Holy sheet the guy at 12:00 sounds like boomhauer or however it's spelt from King of the hill

    @adamclark7564@adamclark75644 жыл бұрын
  • Where are the jobs in England quoted from? Some kind of movie? I did not find any titres.

    @jryuotube@jryuotube3 жыл бұрын
  • I remembered watching this when i was like 4 or 5, its what wanted me to become a pilot, or at least for the time, is also a shame that the Me262 is associated with the nazis, I mean the pilots and the scientists that made the 262 have nothing to do with the holocoast or the war crimes of those days. its sad really but something that can not be changed. the best thing, as we the next generation can do, is learn from our grandparants mistakes and make a better world for all of us.

    @FRIEND_711@FRIEND_7117 жыл бұрын
    • The me262 is more associated with the luftwaffe(airforce) and not so much with the NSDAP( nazi party)

      @PU8698@PU86985 жыл бұрын
    • True. but quoting the Arbiter and shipmaster from Halo2 "that armor suits you but it will not hide that mark." "nothing ever will."

      @FRIEND_711@FRIEND_7115 жыл бұрын
    • Yup, furthering the reach of Hitler's murderous regime 'had nothing to do with the "holocoast"'. Bulletproof logic.

      @demonbre@demonbre Жыл бұрын
  • By 1944 most of the best pilots in Germany was gone,there was enough planes but no pilots

    @fabiosunspot1112@fabiosunspot11125 жыл бұрын
  • The biggest problem with the 262 was the combination of its speed and its guns. The MK 108 cannon had a low muzzle velocity, and thus its shells had the large amount of bullet drop. To get an accurate hit, the 262 had to be within 600 m, but it needed 200 m to have time to avoid a collision with a bomber. That 400 m difference would be covered in 1-2 seconds, and German pilots commented that you needed at least double that to aim and fire properly.

    @anzaca1@anzaca12 жыл бұрын
  • Hi there,will you be putting the Battle Stations programme :P51Mustang on your channel.Thanks

    @tulyar1043@tulyar10438 жыл бұрын
    • Dude, this is from like 25 years ago. Long gone are the days of history on the History Channel.

      @loganmassee4933@loganmassee49332 жыл бұрын
  • God, Germans were genius.

    @humpty4205@humpty42053 жыл бұрын
  • The Me262 is a scary German monster in WWII and the film Red Tails. Also it is like the first and only jet fighter in the whole world and the only way the allies got their hands on their very own jets is by capturing the Me-262s.

    @SuperiorAmericanGuy@SuperiorAmericanGuy8 жыл бұрын
    • You know nothing of actual history. Don't believe movies.

      @Doonit_hard_way_since_65@Doonit_hard_way_since_655 жыл бұрын
    • It’s true. The me-262 outspeed all the allies aircraft and took many lives of our allied forces pilots.

      @SuperiorAmericanGuy@SuperiorAmericanGuy4 жыл бұрын
    • @@SuperiorAmericanGuy Speed didn't really help the 262. This is because its guns had such bullet drop that they had to get very close. With their speed, this gave them just a few seconds to aim and fire before pulling away to avoid a collision.

      @anzaca1@anzaca12 жыл бұрын
    • The Me-262 killed both my American grandparents. I never get to meet them.

      @SuperiorAmericanGuy@SuperiorAmericanGuy2 жыл бұрын
  • The RADAR made the British win the air battle of Britain, so they could combine their flying forces in an appropriate manner. Germany tried to not go to war with Britain, but the british denied peace. The war against Britain was an unwanted war. When Germany attacked the SU, Churchill knew, with the help of the former colony USA, he could win that war, after german and russian losses would raise and weaken the german army. So, when the invasion in Normandie started, the western allies had to fight a pale shadow of once was the german army. Never ever they had been won a battle against the 1940 german army. But maybe we as europeans could manage a status quo, that guarentees for all of us, like Chamberlain said, never to go to war against another again.

    @EJStormful@EJStormful7 жыл бұрын
    • EJStormful I like to think of the war as The European Civil War. Because that's what it was.

      @Nothingschanged@Nothingschanged5 жыл бұрын
  • It's a pity politics stopped the Heinkel He 280 being put into production. Who knows which would have been the better?

    @mirandahotspring4019@mirandahotspring4019 Жыл бұрын
  • Heinkel wasn't awarded the contract because he didn't play by the rules, oh that explains it and in such detail too.

    @orange70383@orange703834 жыл бұрын
  • Documentary?

    @rob4926@rob4926 Жыл бұрын
  • Me 262 was called the Swallow? Dude. that's a shark.

    @madcat789@madcat7897 жыл бұрын
    • It was called the Swallow because subconsciously Germany is super Gay.

      @teddyreid2897@teddyreid28977 жыл бұрын
    • @@BakuhatsuFoxy Schwalbe is a bird... not a freaking shark, if a Shallow is a shark then McDonalds is a fine dining restaurant.

      @NapFloridian@NapFloridian4 жыл бұрын
    • Don't call my waifu shark!!!

      @thefellathathuntsvatniks@thefellathathuntsvatniks3 жыл бұрын
    • @@thefellathathuntsvatniks Shut up, Nerd, or you get the locker again.

      @madcat789@madcat7893 жыл бұрын
  • Years ago I came across a rumor that one reason the jet engine was a priority was that it's fuel was a previously unused fraction of petroleum. This meant it would ease the constant fuel shortage Germany suffered. Can anyone confirm or refute that?

    @davidfortier6976@davidfortier69767 жыл бұрын
    • David Fortier Maybe?

      @confusedheavy6933@confusedheavy69336 жыл бұрын
    • Just posting here incase someone gives a reply. Sounds very interesting. Have you read any books about the Me-262s?

      @Tinnesa@Tinnesa5 жыл бұрын
    • Once petrol/gas was a unused by product

      @gen3v8@gen3v85 жыл бұрын
    • @@Tinnesa I've read that the amount of refining of raw oil to manufacture gasoline instead of heavier fuel like kerosene and diesel was extremely expensive and jet fuel is basically kerosene. Gas engines work on combustion where you need a high octane fuel to explode and move your pistons .

      @squidman556@squidman5562 жыл бұрын
  • How many planes did the 262 shoot down

    @REI02021809@REI020218092 жыл бұрын
  • The M262 was so much ahead of its time that Hitler with his old fashioned thinking, gave the wrong order to use it as a bomber. Well, fortunately.

    @ConFusion@ConFusion6 жыл бұрын
    • And the English were too stupid too realize what they had and could have dominated the skies.

      @chuckwin100@chuckwin1005 жыл бұрын
    • No, that is a myth put out by Galland after WWII. The ME262 couldn't have come out any earlier then it did, the engines were not ready until late 1944 so Hitler deciding it was a bomber or fighter had no impact on its development. Kommando Nowotny, the first Jet unit the Germans made in late 1944 lost more planes to mechanical issues then they managed to shoot down. The landing gear didn't work half the time, and the guns were not heated, causing them to Jam.

      @colinkelly5420@colinkelly54205 жыл бұрын
  • the first jet engine was develop in England by Frank Whittle , it works partially and the RAF did not show any interest in this motor..... it was in 1929 that the motor was in pepper, then in 1935 the German improve it Hans on Ohain , improve Frank patent and the German were the first using it , Hans had briliant mind but he admit that he read all Frank work that was in Berlin library , so some of the credit is to Frank also

    @emanueldabah2252@emanueldabah22526 жыл бұрын
    • Everything is derivative. You could probably trace the core idea of such engines back even further.

      @Dowlphin@Dowlphin3 жыл бұрын
  • 262 is a beautiful plane, but Germany should have focused on mass producing FW190s to reduce the constant allied bombing.

    @Afshinski@Afshinski5 жыл бұрын
    • The FW190 is a magnificent aircraft

      @JacobN-hg8tv@JacobN-hg8tv4 жыл бұрын
    • FW 190 mod D

      @gretalind6590@gretalind65904 жыл бұрын
    • best fighter plane of world war two...enough said...

      @manchild3479@manchild34793 жыл бұрын
    • Germany WAS producing fw190s but that wasn't working anymore. As Germany became more and more desperate their ideas be came more radical as a result. If anything they were too cocky by shelving the jet idea until it was too late. Imagine 262s blasting everything from the sky on D day to support their counterpush on the beaches....

      @ChrisZukowski88@ChrisZukowski883 жыл бұрын
  • I very much doubt many people within the Luftwaffe felt "invincible" in July 1944, even with the benefit of a couple of Hermann's special lozenges...

    @magoniaciv3308@magoniaciv33082 жыл бұрын
  • Reliability is the biggest limitation of the Me262, even if all aircraft had been built as fighters. All turbine engines' rotating parts suffer from creep and fatigue--when you swing something at high speed, the centrifugal force tries to lengthen your object. Eventually the turbine blades will hit the casing and/or cracks will start forming. High temperature in excess of 1,000 degrees Celsius inside a jet engine accelerates it further. Nowadays engine turbine blades are made of nickel alloys for their superb characteristics against creep. The Germans actually knew about this in WW2, but Allied blockade forced them to make do with steel. Steel has the melting point and structural strength, but has TERRIBLE creep characteristics, meaning that after just 10-12 flight hours or so the turbines will deform so much, that the engine has to be removed, stripped down and the steel turbine blades replaced. Compare that with modern turbines lasting up to 3,000 take-offs and landings. Hence, while the Me262 is revolutionary and effective in combat, I believe it will always be plagued by reliability issues and would spend most of its time grounded for maintenance, rather than making a significant influence on the course of WW2 (except maybe psychological).

    @yatsumleung8618@yatsumleung86185 жыл бұрын
    • The Germans knew that too. They didn't build the poor quality of the steel turbine blades because they were too stupid to build better ones. They were cut off from the raw material supply in order to be able to produce suitable steel alloys. They had to take what was available in their own country. Modifications with improved materials have shown after the war that the engines could last 100 hours and more.

      @folkestender2025@folkestender20254 жыл бұрын
    • @@folkestender2025 But to be fair they did rather screw themselves but not putting more focus on centrifugal compressors.

      @fritzfieldwrangle-clouder7299@fritzfieldwrangle-clouder72993 жыл бұрын
  • would be nice to see a less biased docu

    @antigen4@antigen42 жыл бұрын
  • Chuck Yeager said "The first time i saw a jet, i shot one down"

    @tuggspeedman822@tuggspeedman8226 жыл бұрын
    • When it was landing

      @miquelltkmc@miquelltkmc5 жыл бұрын
    • @@miquelltkmc hahahaha exactly

      @NapFloridian@NapFloridian4 жыл бұрын
  • The teen (including me)and the resources used by the devices could have led any country in the world in ww2 to victory. from berlin to New York, from Moscow to tokyo.

    @TopG20073@TopG200732 жыл бұрын
  • Attention History Channel: Cancel Swamp People and other junk food tv nonsense bring back these kind of documentaries!

    @charlesramos4294@charlesramos4294 Жыл бұрын
  • ME 262 came too late.

    @ronnelechavez@ronnelechavez5 жыл бұрын
  • If Nazi Germany had developed the Me-262 and the V1 and V2 missiles at the beginning of WW2, in 1940 or 1941, I don't know what would have been the fate of the allies! My God!

    @Joaocruz30@Joaocruz3010 ай бұрын
  • 8:37 Bahahahha the wrong date!

    @natefv7@natefv74 жыл бұрын
    • No he’s right. WW2 started September the first, 1939.

      @Delta-wv3uo@Delta-wv3uo4 жыл бұрын
    • Delta He said September the 3rd.

      @natefv7@natefv74 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@natefv7that's when uk and france declared war on germany officially starting the war

      @leo13246@leo13246 Жыл бұрын
  • Would have been interesting to pit the 262 against the Meteor

    @mgytitanic1912@mgytitanic19128 жыл бұрын
    • that's a joke? me 262 faster plus out gunned anything allies had in the air

      @jessethollywood8062@jessethollywood80628 жыл бұрын
    • +Justin Lee This is interesting. At the end of this documentary all the credit for jet development is given to Germany. The British were flying the Meteor operationally from July 1944 with 616 Sqn. The Meteor was used into the 1960s by australia and Britain and the Middle east and the Korean war. Meteors were used in home defence against V1s and shot many down. The British developed this aircraft with no input from Germany. Yes the 262 was evaluated by the British after the war and learned lessons from it for sure. But the idea that the British were dependant on the 262 secrets for their Jets is just plain wrong.

      @broncosgjn@broncosgjn8 жыл бұрын
    • Grahame Nicholson Yes it is an interesting point. The Meteor was very successful, but became overshadowed by the amazing Hawker Hunter. The Americans relied more on the technology within the 262. The F86 was almost all based around the 262.

      @mgytitanic1912@mgytitanic19128 жыл бұрын
    • Jesset Hollywood+ The 262 outgunned things in theory but the low velocity of its guns made it almost useless in jet combat. Plus the Meteor enjoyed far better climb and acceleration performance and could make rapid throttle responses. If the 262 wanted a shot it would have to slow down, if it did the Meteor out performed it in every regard. If it stayed fast there wasn't much it could do and wouldn't get a firing solution. The Meteor would walk right over the 262, theres a reason no one used the 262 design post war, instead opting for their own (with usually British WW2 engines).

      @1993Crag@1993Crag7 жыл бұрын
    • Crag_r You could argue that the F86 followed some of the principles of the ME262. The swept wing design for one.

      @mgytitanic1912@mgytitanic19127 жыл бұрын
  • Seems like the ministry itself wasn't at fault, the scientific advisers were, felt threatend? I often wonder whether we still suffer from the same type of typical shortsightedness even today.

    @rob5944@rob59443 жыл бұрын
  • I thought the Germans invented the 262 so Blue Oyster Cult could write that song.

    @h.hickenanaduk8622@h.hickenanaduk8622 Жыл бұрын
  • The first patent for a jet engine was filed in 1921 by Maxime Guillaume, a Frenchman and not by Whittle, also Ohain's jet engine was axial flow, Whittles was not, so there was absolutely nothing of value to copy from Whittle. This is all very disturbing and hard to accept by the British and still inventing machines is not exactly what the British are known for in comparison to both the Germans and the French. The only machine invented in Britain is the Sterling engine and he was a Scot.

    @hurri7720@hurri77202 жыл бұрын
    • Even now small jet engines used as APUs often use radial (Centrifugal) compressors, they are practical for small engines (but there are axial ones also). WWII jets still counted as small engines. For better efficiency, it might have been put in a low bypass situation, like Whipple planned for the Miles M.52 engine. See Pratt & Whitney APS2300 APU for one still made. Centrifugal compressors become impractical at >5,000 lbs thrust, even the Mig-15 and P-80 used them before axial engines were perfected in about 1948 (even using some of those same engineers picked up in Paperclip, they were not ready by Western Peacetime standards).

      @VicariousAdventurer@VicariousAdventurer2 жыл бұрын
    • Also, the engine in the first JET, instead of Rocket, plane to actually break the sound barrier (Assuming DH 108 is the first, F-86 could also do it in a dive, question is when, I have seen cold water thrown on the idea it happened early on, but there are a lot of excited people writing articles): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Goblin

      @VicariousAdventurer@VicariousAdventurer2 жыл бұрын
  • What about the Italian invented soviet built engine, which went into the so called "devil's broomstick" aircraft?

    @lelsewherelelsewhere9435@lelsewherelelsewhere94352 жыл бұрын
  • Could You Imagine If Hitler Had Kept His Right Mind, And Finished Building The Aircraft Carrier Graf Zeppelin, With A Squadron Of These Fighters On It?!? 😳 They Would've Been Hard To Beat! But Fortunately For Us, He Went Insane And Tried To Use The Poor 262 As A Bomber!

    @kevinballenger1211@kevinballenger121110 ай бұрын
  • 14:18 I can't believe a science / history doc can make this mistake

    @campionpesate4647@campionpesate46478 жыл бұрын
    • Fox hound It's true but the expression is really dumb. 'light years' ahead. it's like irregardless. hits the year wrong

      @campionpesate4647@campionpesate46478 жыл бұрын
  • The Me 262.

    @arkhie9883@arkhie98833 жыл бұрын
  • Frank Whittle did NOT "invent" the axial-flow jet engine, a Frenchman Maxime Gullaume actually patented the axial-flow jet engine when Whittle was only 17 years old...the English ignored his patent.

    @AndieBlack13@AndieBlack13 Жыл бұрын
  • @ Gary Tarr: I guess - sadly - you're missing my point. But in case you have to vomit...we hold vomitbags available :-).

    @tonkool4736@tonkool47368 жыл бұрын
  • Wish Germany had this in 1940 naturally the were far behind

    @ronaldschultenover8137@ronaldschultenover81374 жыл бұрын
    • Are you saying you wish the Nazis won? Fuck you

      @benolofson9732@benolofson97324 жыл бұрын
    • @@benolofson9732 oi vey

      @suckmyass101@suckmyass1013 жыл бұрын
    • @@benolofson9732 I am German hate the Brirs Yanks

      @ronaldschultenover8137@ronaldschultenover8137 Жыл бұрын
    • They did have it, Hitler just didn't care.

      @jebbroham1776@jebbroham1776 Жыл бұрын
  • Germans should have started production as soon as the engine was available 🤔

    @caesar4857@caesar48572 жыл бұрын
  • Germans are the best

    @shinobizuken@shinobizuken5 жыл бұрын
    • No, they are the worst

      @gerijokub7737@gerijokub77375 жыл бұрын
  • Would have, could have, should have.I will now have my fifth w @nk for the day..fifth one is always the best one..

    @anthonykot@anthonykot2 жыл бұрын
  • And rockets Germans and Asians are very smart you do not need money to build buildings or any mechanics or any technology you only need to know how to build it and only need mines to dig out your own Materials. It is either slow down let plane pass then fire or get shot down or make basic manoeuvres and survive the attack slow may be key but speed may not always be the best.

    @Jaystarzgaming@Jaystarzgaming5 жыл бұрын
    • Asians... You mean the Japanese?

      @thefellathathuntsvatniks@thefellathathuntsvatniks3 жыл бұрын
  • Without Winston Churchill, US won't have any jet engine planes at all ya! 😌

    @monkeyguy80@monkeyguy804 жыл бұрын
  • Germany allways little(thank God), good, Porche, Mercedes, massive T-34 and Sherman tanks in huge amounts...

    @petrusinvictus3603@petrusinvictus3603 Жыл бұрын
  • Hitlers rationale 🤣 "we can't push them back due to them having air superiority so lets turn our jet into a bomber thatll do it!!"

    @jamesmaddison4546@jamesmaddison45466 ай бұрын
  • "it out maneuvered the allied fighter escorts" no. it didnt

    @toasthouse12@toasthouse128 жыл бұрын
    • of course it did^^

      @johannnuschke9445@johannnuschke94457 жыл бұрын
    • you don't need to be win a turning maneuver when you just can accelerate and go turn in a safe location away from enemies

      @anayman7@anayman77 жыл бұрын
    • [Toast] yes it did

      @greenfingernaildirt356@greenfingernaildirt3567 жыл бұрын
    • [Toast] at high speeds the 262 was INCREDIBLY maneuvrable

      @greenfingernaildirt356@greenfingernaildirt3567 жыл бұрын
    • anayman7 Except the 262 didn't out accelerate allied fighters, it had a woeful thrust to weight ratio and there are plenty of combat reports of P-51's or P-47's reeling in 262's diving away from them and killing them.

      @1993Crag@1993Crag6 жыл бұрын
  • The Germans had their priorities completely wrong, instead of manufacturing tried and tested piston engine bombers which they so desperately needed, they wasted time which they did not have producing new jet fighters that would obviously have many teething trouble issues. The Juno 004 jet engine was very unreliable, and suffered with major overheating problems. Only 1500 ME 262's were built and over half were destroyed on the ground. Of the other surviving 262's many were lost on take off and landing, and many crashed because of engine failure. The Germans had few spares, and had little ammunition and also limited quantities of fuel. The ME262 was brilliant at the time but it made no difference at all.

    @jetpigeon8758@jetpigeon87589 жыл бұрын
    • I think the messerschmitt was way faster than all the other existing plane models with Propellers.

      @tigrex_gamer@tigrex_gamer9 жыл бұрын
    • And that made it a superior plane the time it was being used. And yes, the half of them Were destroyed on the ground. And yes, the technic wasnt perfect yet. But it was a large jump for the planes. You need to know that a whole new plane genre was just born!

      @tigrex_gamer@tigrex_gamer9 жыл бұрын
    • Tigrex2001 Lok Fantastic plane, but not what Germany needed at the time. Germany should have had large 4 engine bombers in 1939 when they needed them. Hitler's 2 engine bombers damaged British cities, but British 4 engine bombers destroyed German cities.

      @jetpigeon8758@jetpigeon87589 жыл бұрын
    • Tigrex2001 Lok The ME 262 could not turn as fast as a P-51 Mustang.

      @jetpigeon8758@jetpigeon87589 жыл бұрын
    • Earth 2 and?

      @johnhilton2509@johnhilton25099 жыл бұрын
  • This is RUBBISH . The GE 1 A copy" of Whittles engines was a VERY POOR COPY. The first American jet the Bell Aircomet needed 2 engines a 4000 yard runway and just managed 400 MPH and WAS NOT PURSUED. The Gloster Meteor was a great aircraft as proved in a 10 year service record

    @garrington120@garrington1209 жыл бұрын
    • Gary Tarr The narrator has a British accent. Why don't you take it up with your own people.

      @crosstimbers2@crosstimbers28 жыл бұрын
    • crosstimbers2 No kidding! It's people like Gary Tarr that make KZhead such a 'pleasant place' to visit! I could care less about your nationality but anybody with half a brain knows what you're doing Gary Tarr and it's NOT appreciated... If you don't realize how you come off to other people I suggest you talk to a good friend or have someone you trust *that doesn't automatically agree with you ALL the time -- IE, not a yesman* read over what you wrote. It's VERY antagonistic and you're basically calling the non-British idiots and incompetent. I don't go into the Spitfire documentaries or other British videos and antagonize them on purpose. I can think of PLENTY of uncomplimentary things to say (to anybody) but I choose not to because A) it's ridiculously rude to do that and B) frankly most British I've encountered in real life are reasonable people who do not behave like jackals. Why the online community brings out the worst behavior in people is something I have yet to comprehend besides the anonymity factor. It's even dumber when people sign their real names like you do, Mr. Tarr!!!! Seriously, do you HAVE to piss in the punch every time you go to a party, Tarr?

      @AvengerII@AvengerII8 жыл бұрын
  • people like Louis Mountbatten and their types would be like,oh no why have one jet when you can have 3 with propellers,stupid and I'm British

    @jisim6773@jisim67738 жыл бұрын
    • Modern jets are Turbofans which are quite similar...

      @1993Crag@1993Crag7 жыл бұрын
    • Fat Göring was just as stupid at first. He thought everything that had no tail wheel was a bad plane. He was a fighter pilot in World War I and had rather antiquated views.

      @folkestender2025@folkestender20254 жыл бұрын
  • Why couldn't we come up with our own jet engine

    @johncraig1431@johncraig14313 жыл бұрын
    • Britain did with Whittle but government did not take up his ideas early enough ....the very bright german read whittles designs and made them a whole lot better....Like many of UK's inventions the ideas went to other countries because we foolishly did not take them up.......and it still happens today

      @eggy1962@eggy19622 жыл бұрын
    • @@eggy1962 The UK government at the time was facing financial troubles and didn't want to pour millions into an unknown, new technology. Germany did and look, they still lost the war and the 262 barely impacted anything.

      @youraveragescotsman7119@youraveragescotsman71192 жыл бұрын
    • @@youraveragescotsman7119 it came as all their resources dried up as they lost ground (germans) as for GB nothing much has changed we still have great inventors but many such ideas creations still get lost over seas due to lack of support.

      @eggy1962@eggy19622 жыл бұрын
  • Germany flew the first Jet Britain flew the first Jet Fighter Germany used the first Jet Fighters in war

    @fashizzle78@fashizzle782 жыл бұрын
  • P51 where flying coffins Vs me262s

    @YUSKHAN@YUSKHAN5 жыл бұрын
    • Me-262s using BnZ tactics: *Yes* Me-262s turn fighting like Japanese: *No* (Not all Japanese pilot inside the Zero prefer turn fighting. Look at Iwamoto who got a lot of kills during WW2 where he prefer BnZ, the tactic used by most American and German especially Me-262 pilots, over turnfighting which were normal in Japanese pilots. The reason why I put Iwamoto who here is simple: Boom and Zoom)

      @thefellathathuntsvatniks@thefellathathuntsvatniks3 жыл бұрын
  • 262 little man load of coal for grandads fire gets two hot 🧑🏼‍🏭

    @arawiri@arawiri Жыл бұрын
  • sabre fab. pmsl

    @allan330@allan3304 жыл бұрын
  • Germany had no chance of winning WWII even with their "wonder weapons" The bottom line is Germany could not match the United States or the Soviet Union in terms of manufacturing power or manpower.

    @pitster1105@pitster11055 жыл бұрын
    • Germany could take on any country 1on1 (including USA) and would weary likely win at that time . In the end Germans lost the war only when fought Russia , USA , Britain and Canada combined .

      @piccadillycircus9416@piccadillycircus94164 жыл бұрын
    • @@piccadillycircus9416 They were never likley to win. They failed at defeating the british and they failed to defeat the french resistance.

      @pitster1105@pitster11054 жыл бұрын
    • @@piccadillycircus9416 And they would have never been able to take the US on 1 on 1. The US had infinite more man power and finacial and manufacturing power, they would have been grinded down with in a year two years max. The same with the USSR.

      @pitster1105@pitster11054 жыл бұрын
    • @pitster110 Germany had the strongest military at the time . If USA where to invade Germany singlehandedly they would definitely fail on doing this . Germany simply fought two many wars on to many front lines at the same time . If Hitler wouldn’t started Russian invasion things also could had turned out differently .

      @piccadillycircus9416@piccadillycircus94164 жыл бұрын
    • @pitster110 they did yes , but only because Hitler started invasion of Russia while bombing British . If he would had concentrated all the forces on defeating British instead of starting a second invasion weary likely Britain would lose the war . Britain was already almost crashed and suffered enormous loses and it would be a matter of time before Britain would fall . Operation Barbarossa most definetley was Hitlers greatest strategical mistake of WW2.

      @piccadillycircus9416@piccadillycircus94164 жыл бұрын
  • Gotta love how fast Americans embrace change and new technology. Classic England scorns new fangled contraptions

    @Quodge@Quodge7 жыл бұрын
  • The only way this plane could win the war for Nazis was mass production and enough pilots and a year earlier at least. BUT at the time Me262 started to be produced it was the same time Germany was being bombed regularly, Factories and resources being bombed and demolished, and with a Russian army coming in from the east and an Allied force coming in from the West. No way Germans could make it even with better technology. If simply this aircraft introduced earlier it could of buy some time for the Nazis, say like 6 months, of air superiority. No more. It is for sure that shot down Me262s would be seized by allies and either they would have developed quick ways to deal with Me262s (they actually did) or develop their own jets faster. And while the industries of the allied countries were capable of mass productions Germany would have no chance. SImply would only buy them few months more time only of superiority. Wars are not one machine winners. Wars involve multiple functionalities concurrently running to be better in order to win. Never just one (exception is nuclear power)

    @vageliskomninos2723@vageliskomninos27234 жыл бұрын
    • Vagelis Komninos So no win?

      @yongli8276@yongli82764 жыл бұрын
  • Щойнг

    @ibra3a119@ibra3a1194 жыл бұрын
  • nice air racers now a day

    @ivanhoe1114@ivanhoe11148 жыл бұрын
  • 3:19 i didnt know Mr. Bean was in the army.

    @DKamps@DKamps Жыл бұрын
  • ahhhh England gives usa technology....remember this please

    @lightninggaming476@lightninggaming4763 жыл бұрын
  • Germany have bad pilots, dont know how to use the advantage of the 262 against their opponent

    @rebelusa6585@rebelusa65852 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah that's why any scale with the top pilots during war to ever exist mainly lists germans... What you are trying to say is that good pilots are not invincible and eventually by the end of the war most of the experienced pilots had died.

      @BabycakesBeats@BabycakesBeats2 жыл бұрын
    • Actually just looked it up. Germans are top 230 before a allied pilot even makes the list. LOL

      @BabycakesBeats@BabycakesBeats2 жыл бұрын
    • @@BabycakesBeats A majority of those kills came from 1941 during Barbarossa, against an Airforce that couldn't get off the ground in time for the attack. Not very impressive.

      @youraveragescotsman7119@youraveragescotsman71192 жыл бұрын
  • If its a turbine engine it is not a jet engine.

    @domdegood5376@domdegood53768 жыл бұрын
    • Yes it is.

      @TheRockstarFreak9@TheRockstarFreak98 жыл бұрын
  • This was where it all started.Zion won.ShalÖm,suckash.FCapice?

    @fredrictengstrom5646@fredrictengstrom56468 жыл бұрын
  • the british where well organized, a fact about the battle of britain the germany never recover the losses enough while british did it, and for sure british had a lot of help from americans, i think and i always belived it, USSR won war alone, maybe they said that american helped them and bla bla bla.... but am sure that was all jude propaganda. USSR was already a great military power, they made the KV1 before WW2 started. maybe for logostic economic problems germany lost war. the only thing that i feel realy sry for it, is the life of brave men from all sides who died in vain. we still have a world with no peace.

    @kaiserblade42@kaiserblade427 жыл бұрын
  • OMG HELLO SEXY!!!

    @moserr11@moserr115 жыл бұрын
  • And not a single mention of the Gloster Meteor, its (only) Allied contemporary and the only Allied jet to fight in World War Two. This documentary is disingenuous in my opinion because of this.

    @nigethesassenach3614@nigethesassenach36142 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks to the me262 the allies finaly succeeded into making their own design of their jet fighters...........and thanks to the british,the soviets also made theirbown too hahaha

    @nufaeilaziz5432@nufaeilaziz54326 жыл бұрын
  • they failed to mention that the british meteor flew before the ME262. The 262 was in combat 1st though. They also failed to mention that the meteor was in combat a few months after the 262 and was a better plane. Faster and better armed. The meteor was delayed cause they couldnt build the engines fast enough. Otherwise it would of been in service by 1943. Out of all the main countries the USA was the last to have jet fighters. Even then the US jets were not as good as the russian and british jets.

    @cliffbird5016@cliffbird50168 жыл бұрын
    • u don't know your history do some research before you open your mouth u idiot!!

      @jessethollywood8062@jessethollywood80628 жыл бұрын
    • +Fox hound If we are talking about the WW2 jets. The Meteor F.4 prototype flying before the end of the war was faster; 584mph vs the 262's 559mph. For a jet the mk 108's were far worse. Their low muzzle velocity meant they were terribly for jet usage as the closing speeds meant they were highly impractical to get anywhere near on target..

      @1993Crag@1993Crag7 жыл бұрын
    • +Fox hound lol about the American plane things, it's not the plane that shoots down aircraft, it's the pilot. Inexperienced North Korean pilots flying MIGs, against ace American pilots flying a Saber is totally different. The only thing the Saber beat the MIG in was dive speed. But that's because it was heavy.

      @kyledasilva6145@kyledasilva61457 жыл бұрын
    • kdasilva 1 No. The Sabre beat the MiG in level flight speed and high speed control, as well as higher speed acceleration. Along with having better low alt performance.

      @1993Crag@1993Crag7 жыл бұрын
    • The bigger guns however on the 262 meant that the mk108's lack of muzzle velocity meant that they had woeful range and had to be well inside the .50's firing range..

      @1993Crag@1993Crag7 жыл бұрын
  • Strongest military in the world at ww2- Germany 🇩🇪

    @piccadillycircus9416@piccadillycircus94164 жыл бұрын
    • The Allies beat the Germans with little loss and quickly. When they made their economy military, Hitler and Stalin were very contagious.

      @jryuotube@jryuotube3 жыл бұрын
    • @@jryuotube allies never beated Germany , Russians did . And russians payed unbelievable price for that . Learn history .

      @piccadillycircus9416@piccadillycircus94163 жыл бұрын
    • @@piccadillycircus9416, China paid, for example, and Yugoslavia. The allies won. Moreover, already in 1941, with the entry into the war of the United States, Italy and Germany were doomed to defeat. And from 1942 they began to pay with German cities for prolonging the war, which had already been lost. The loss of life is not a victory and not a payment for it. Learn history, not legends. And logic.

      @jryuotube@jryuotube3 жыл бұрын
  • the british is trying so hard to insert in the fame.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    @florencemodina6293@florencemodina6293 Жыл бұрын
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