Is Postecoglou on the right track at Spurs?

2024 ж. 15 Мам.
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Tottenham Hotspur have 12 games left in the Premier League, could they have a chance at Champions League football with a top four finish?
Spurs sit fifth, just behind Aston Villa, with questions if they could be even higher in the league table had their season not been hampered by injury.
How does Ange Postecoglou’s start as Spurs head coach in the Premier League compare with the likes of Jurgen Klopp and Mikel Arteta?
Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic’s Tottenham correspondent Jack Pitt-Brooke and German football writer Seb Stafford-Bloor to discuss.
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00:00 Intro
00:30 How is Postecoglou doing so far at Tottenham?
05:00 How have Spurs improved?
07:03 What problems have they overcome?
11:09 What is Ange building?
13:34 Tottenham Hotspur players
15:55 Podcast habits survey
16:22 What does next season look like for Spurs?
26:33 Ange Postecoglou’s brand of football
29:44 A Liverpool without Klopp
33:36 The future of Spurs
36:35 Outro
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  • Ange has stuck to and perfected his formula for nearly 20 years.. at each new club he gets them ready faster and faster.. Ange is a winner every where he goes.. EVERYWHERE..

    @loluntilafternext6173@loluntilafternext61732 ай бұрын
    • Not so successful with the socceroos

      @jeremygomeze4920@jeremygomeze49202 ай бұрын
    • @@jeremygomeze4920 Asian Cup is a failure? 🏆

      @loluntilafternext6173@loluntilafternext61732 ай бұрын
    • @@jeremygomeze4920only coach to win the Asian Cup plus qualified for two World Cups - how many EPL managers have qualified for a World Cup?

      @elastotec173@elastotec1732 ай бұрын
    • ​@@elastotec173: 👏👏💯👍💪🤛🦘🇦🇺🍻

      @ozzymick1431@ozzymick14312 ай бұрын
    • ​@@jeremygomeze4920He won an Asian Cup!!! With a transitional squad.😂

      @Bully1973@Bully19732 ай бұрын
  • Lets not forget Spurs lost Harry Kane at the very end of the transfer window and didnt replace him. A brand new GK and the majority of new signings had no Premier League experience, and a manager who previous to this had only managed in Scotland, Japan, Australia and Greece. He has done wonders IMO

    @ianalderman6338@ianalderman63382 ай бұрын
    • Spurs did not loose Harry Kane! Levy chose to sell him when he was still in contract at the club...

      @geoffstern7652@geoffstern76522 ай бұрын
    • Is he there anymore? Then they lost him. The how isn't relevant to that.

      @northernbloke6787@northernbloke67872 ай бұрын
    • @@geoffstern7652 ...cause Harry wanted to leave

      @mnoypoiuyt65r4w8@mnoypoiuyt65r4w82 ай бұрын
    • you cant replace Harry Kane. he is one of the best in the world. You cant replace Messi or Ronaldo etc etc

      @StefThe0@StefThe02 ай бұрын
    • Don't be arrogant in your comments. Everywhere he has gone, he has won silverware. Just because he now working in England does not matter? Your league has far more money than any league in the world. Alex Ferguson, Arsène Wenger are 2 of the most successful managers in Premier league history. Both where succesful before coming to England. It is down to their mentality and philosophy. In my opinion Angecis cut with the same cloth. He will be a massive success in England no matter if it is Spurs or elsewhere. He is a born winner.

      @boabnaelimitskeenan6848@boabnaelimitskeenan68482 ай бұрын
  • ange is the best man i have ever seen speaking with fans and media on football world. super stoic, humble and ambitious. for me he's the right man with no doubts.

    @vinicoc@vinicoc2 ай бұрын
    • He'd be the right bloke if we had a different chairman

      @grahammerry7031@grahammerry70312 ай бұрын
    • the right man for speaking to people or to manage spurs? He is nearly 60 years old, if he was that good as a manager, why has he always managed micky mouse clubs?

      @user-jl1ry7qp1y@user-jl1ry7qp1y2 ай бұрын
    • @@user-jl1ry7qp1y you know nothing about football, mate. these eurocentric way of thinking about relevance of conquers have diminished your capacity to think to embarassing levels.

      @vinicoc@vinicoc2 ай бұрын
    • @@vinicoc You have to put meat on the bone there mate. Explain why he knows nothing about football and why you do it seems

      @grahammerry7031@grahammerry70312 ай бұрын
    • ​@@grahammerry7031 well mate, say that he only managed mickey mouse cubs is a atrocious statement, that is only done cause of his eurocentric way of seeing the sport. ange was successful on australia, japan, scotland and international football in very different scenarios. adored in every place he has managed, but not just that, he arrived at the premier league with the best start on 10 games a manager have ever had, and is having a very solid first season at tottenham. how many managers on england today have worked so hard to earn their places?? i am not belittling him, but arteta literally got his first ever job at a big 6 club. the mate is highly connected with the club culture and the supporters. and if you want to talk about high reputation managers that managed tottenham in the last years, antonio conte and josé mourinho, they did not solve anything. that is why this mate knows nothing about football, and barely anyone that uses the term "mickey mouse clubs" do, because is just a pathetic way of belittle foreign football.

      @vinicoc@vinicoc2 ай бұрын
  • Spurs fan of 35 years here, for me Ange has been a breathe of fresh air with regards to how he manages the media, how he talks about the process he is undertaking, and the way he presents after a win/loss. We have made some excellent additions to the squad already, and in all likelihood will made additional sizeable changes in the summer. This will take a few more windows, in my view at least another two (summer and winter 2024) to get the adequate depth in the squad to make Top 4 'more' of a certainty. The only thing I will say is that the euphoria around Ange has started to run out within a lot of the fan base IMO, and he needs to start getting consistent performances. We still see Spurs either winning 3-0 away, or losing 0-1 at home a week later.

    @tbsc5088@tbsc50882 ай бұрын
    • We were 8th last year ffs, I cant fathom how anyone can blame Ange for anything given we ve been decimated by injuries.

      @purpleyranger@purpleyranger2 ай бұрын
    • 3-0 away is optimistic, can't buy a clean sheet to save our lives at the moment

      @joeboxerrr@joeboxerrr2 ай бұрын
    • @@purpleyranger - I’ve not blamed anybody buddy, I’m simply saying that the euphoria around Ange’s appointment is dissipating a little and ‘the process’ needs to start returning some consistency.

      @tbsc5088@tbsc50882 ай бұрын
    • @@joeboxerrr - True!, leaky.

      @tbsc5088@tbsc50882 ай бұрын
    • Maybe ten windows and u might actually win a carabao cup again .hang in there

      @koutanot@koutanot2 ай бұрын
  • Been a Spurs fan since 1981, Ange hasn't got the full team assembled yet, a few more quality player's and lets see what the team is made of next season and fans complaining about the style of play, I love attacking rather than park the bus football

    @00wrongun@00wrongun2 ай бұрын
    • Beat you by 5 yrs ....1976 I was 16 yrs old and brought up as an arsenal supporter by my father who I was so close to ...I had to tell him I've changed to SPURS ...I ALSO WENT TO HIGHBURY GROVE school...my sportsmaster was CLIFF JONES ...IMAGINE THAT 😂😂😂

      @zicowilco60@zicowilco602 ай бұрын
  • People forget how dominant spurs were before their injury/suspension crisis post-Chelsea game. With some more reinforcements in the summer (which their competitors might not be able to match), they will likely be challenging next season.

    @recyclebinification@recyclebinification2 ай бұрын
    • Already Bergvall coming in the summer

      @Insaneronald@Insaneronald2 ай бұрын
    • @@Insaneronald Yeah but he might not be ready straight away for first team. I’m sure Ange will bring in more proven players as well.

      @recyclebinification@recyclebinification2 ай бұрын
    • Two or three should do it.

      @richardbyrnes8398@richardbyrnes83982 ай бұрын
    • @@richardbyrnes8398eze Nico williams kwp

      @MrHardnut333@MrHardnut3332 ай бұрын
  • I'm an Arsenal fan, I watched Spurs play Everton a few weeks back and I don't think I've been so impressed in a while by a performance as I was with Van De Ven. He was everywhere. His reading of the game was incredible. HIs recovery pace was incredible. He gave no one a sniff. Yes, it was Everton, but his all round game was absolutely there. If he keeps improving he'll be one of the three best defenders in the league, easily.

    @gentleken7864@gentleken78642 ай бұрын
    • It,s amazing how fast he is despite his serious hamstring injury.

      @alfredvanravenswaay1260@alfredvanravenswaay12602 ай бұрын
    • He already is in my humble opinion. 4th if you still consider Stones a CB

      @God_is_an_Atheist666@God_is_an_Atheist6662 ай бұрын
  • he's doing way better than klopp and arteta in their first seasons. 1000% on the right track.

    @hulkboifanki@hulkboifanki2 ай бұрын
    • he's quite an old man - only managed micky mouse clubs. if he was any good, you would expect him to manage a porper club. Arteta got his first manager job at arsenal, took over a big basket of rotten apples

      @user-jl1ry7qp1y@user-jl1ry7qp1y2 ай бұрын
    • ​@user-jl1ry7qp1y clueless comment! Managing any club is difficult, and he could have managed a "proper" club years ago if there wasn't such a strong bias against managers from smaller footballing nations. By your reasoning, Lampard is a good manager because he has managed "proper" teams. It's not just who Ange managed, its how he got teams playing.

      @reeegs90@reeegs902 ай бұрын
    • Oh get lost chicken club you will never be better then arsenal we are the king of north London we won the premier in your sht White House stadium don’t even remember the name you will never be arsenal with your stingy Jewish owners

      @shin2463@shin24632 ай бұрын
    • ​@@user-jl1ry7qp1yAbsolute peak brainrot comment. By your logic the likes of Lampard and Solskjaer are better managers than Sir Alex Ferguson because SAF managed in the SPL before moving to the EPL instead of immediately walking into top level clubs. Idk how his previous jobs have any effect anyway considering he's objectively doing a great job atm with what he's been given.

      @chiefbeef9905@chiefbeef99052 ай бұрын
  • A wider context is that the league is WAY more competitive than at the start of Klopp or even Arteta. That he is so ahead of them after 26 games is remarkable.

    @tomclark4268@tomclark42682 ай бұрын
    • Or maybe apply context and realise that every situation is different. E.g. Arteta had a way worse team, took over his 1st job during covid and wasn't given money until he cleared the squad and cut the wage bill. This is such a basic argument that Klopp and Arteta took a while so other managers will take a while. Not all managers are Arteta and Klopp. So now we see people advocating for managers like Poch and Ten Hag, who won't succeed with their flawed tactical set ups, to be given time because Arteta was given time. Having said that Ange looks better than Poch and Ten Hag.

      @alzer6467@alzer64672 ай бұрын
    • No that’s recency bias. Chelsea were a far more formidable force back then. And Liverpool were starting on a far far lower footing than spurs in terms of player quality. And don’t compare them! Klopp broke into top 4 in his first full season it took Arteta 3.5 years!

      @WaniZame@WaniZame2 ай бұрын
    • ​@alzer6467 ange walked into a team that finished 8th last season, with a manager that drove the team's confidence into the ground. Then Kane left just before the season kicked off. Half the team was injured for most of the season thus far. I would say ange has walked into a situation that is no better than when arteta took over at arsenal or klopp at Liverpool. What he has done thus far is incredible.

      @SiddharthJaggavarapu@SiddharthJaggavarapu2 ай бұрын
    • @@SiddharthJaggavarapuhe was given a pile of cash and he's got 2 points more than Conte. Relax. He's done well and the media love him. He's not not a title winning manager but he'll get Spurs top 4 more often than not.

      @alzer6467@alzer64672 ай бұрын
    • @@alzer6467 lol. He lost a generational talent and spent that money wisely. Van de ven and Madison cost as much as Havertz. Klopp spent the Coutinho money and took a while to implement his ideas. He won the CL and the PL in an era of city domination. Arteta spent 3 seasons and a fortune to keep the seat warm for city.

      @SiddharthJaggavarapu@SiddharthJaggavarapu2 ай бұрын
  • At least now the club different department are actually working toward something they all can agree on let it be the youth, transfer and of course the main team. Ange brought that from the moment he came in, so yes definitely on the right track as long the entire club keep working together as one on it.

    @yoyonemo@yoyonemo2 ай бұрын
    • Couldn't have put it better mate!! Well said!

      @indianastones6032@indianastones60322 ай бұрын
  • I dont know who the journalist who is interviewing other fellow journalist about footballing things but he is top notch.

    @darrenfearon4288@darrenfearon42882 ай бұрын
  • Ange is the first manager since el tel who I feel can persuade players to join us over other clubs

    @tvgcmma9215@tvgcmma92152 ай бұрын
  • Compared to the past few seasons it's been a joy watching Tottenham. No defensive football. No negativity in press conferences. Its not perfect far from it. Enjoyable so far.

    @kelso120@kelso1202 ай бұрын
  • This chat has aged particularly well after the Villa game, with the defensive numbers and Sarr's importance specifically... Spurs left Villa absolutely broken by the end of that game, with a compelling clean sheet and an immense performance from Sarr 👌

    @jacklane3679@jacklane36792 ай бұрын
  • There are two competing forces at work here As his players have more time and he builds the squad he wants Spurs will get better at playing Ange's brand of football But the longer he's in the premiership the more time opponents will have to think about how to counter it Quite where the equilibrium ends up is anybody's guess

    @TomPage51@TomPage512 ай бұрын
    • You imply he only has one way of playing which, with all due respect, is nonsense. Compare the performance away to Arsenal with home to Man United and with away to Villa today. The tactics vary hugely. Ange definitely uses the clubs social media to his advantage. The twitter videos will show the same routine over and over again, ball out wide, crossed in low. But I’ve seen them training, these routines are 10 mins out of 2 hours. He just wants people to think he has one way of playing. See the goals since Christmas, how many have been ‘typical Ange goals’? Very few. Balls over the top to the pacey forwards have created more

      @pauldurdin6163@pauldurdin61632 ай бұрын
    • With better players it won't matter as much.

      @JCRule69@JCRule692 ай бұрын
  • The xGC is from the nature of the style of football, its a very high line and with both fullbacks occupying the forward half spaces it leaves massive gaps down the channels. If it wasn't for the recovery pace of micky and front foot defending of Romero we would of conceded a ton more. I do however, believe that number will reduce when we have a more commanding midfield. If we got a proper six, an anchor like rodri or rice and manage to control games throughout the game states then the defence won't be as relied upon. It starts from the front and pressing as a team, winning balls back in the final third and being first to the second balls in midfield. At the moment it's a little chaotic, moments of great football and periods of hanging on for dear life. Give it time, only after two to three seasons will I properly judge Ange.

    @Ackz89@Ackz892 ай бұрын
    • 💯 agree

      @peejayq@peejayq2 ай бұрын
    • I thought bissouma was better than rice

      @fangdog29@fangdog292 ай бұрын
    • Bissouma goes for risky turns and dribbles. He's got more style and flair than Declan which can be a negative once in a while. I've seen him lose the ball on the edge of our box multiple times this season. @@fangdog29

      @yohanson1377@yohanson13772 ай бұрын
    • @@fangdog29not sure who told you that 😂 £25m vs £105m

      @pauldurdin6163@pauldurdin61632 ай бұрын
    • ​@@fangdog29 This was during the first 10 games of the season until his red card against Luton. He hasnt been the same since

      @franzreyes6185@franzreyes6185Ай бұрын
  • Undoubtedly on the right track.

    @kronjobonjo@kronjobonjo2 ай бұрын
  • How could the answer be anytthing but yes?

    @says0rry@says0rry2 ай бұрын
    • Just cause the candy taste sweet, doesnt mean its not rotting you inside

      @BannyV19@BannyV192 ай бұрын
    • Because the premier league and especially Spurs' is littered with false starts in the past 10 or so years? And not to mention that after once topping the league their form really fell off a cliff recently

      @shishsuke@shishsuke2 ай бұрын
    • Yeah due to injuries and suspensions to main players

      @indianastones6032@indianastones60322 ай бұрын
  • Im enjoying watching the growth of the team but damn I want Sonny to lift a trophy soon before hed retires

    @callmedo@callmedo2 ай бұрын
  • Sick of people talking shit about Ange, the expectations and the selfishness of people expecting miracles. Comparing him to this to that, will it work all nonsense talk.. bunch of precious human beings, just enjoy the journey. Nothing is perfect in life or a guarantee. Do u need assurance that spurs will play the football the way u want, win everyweek, be champions. Nothing go wrong, because as a fan we deserves it. Wtf is with all that.. u came here on earth to experience the emotions it has to offer, good, bad, funny, sad all of them. U want perfection , start looking for it within yourself..

    @tonysobevski9961@tonysobevski99612 ай бұрын
    • Some supporters think we can go out and replace the whole team with gun players in 1 window

      @cxv6367@cxv6367Ай бұрын
  • Happy to see Seb back on a podcast! And the answer is Yes, a thousand times Yes!

    @NicJ27@NicJ272 ай бұрын
  • Great podcast Regarding recruitment, Paratici is irreplaceable

    @stpd1957@stpd19572 ай бұрын
    • Paratici is a tax cheat and a criminal. Ange doesn't need people like that around him.

      @waggafletcher@waggafletcher2 ай бұрын
  • Seb Halfords Floor

    @TheRealMackMillar@TheRealMackMillar2 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant analysis guys... keep up the good work :)

    @RJ-ni9hc@RJ-ni9hc2 ай бұрын
  • Since when did we put arteta on the same level as klopp amd pep?

    @user-nl4cn1ew4w@user-nl4cn1ew4w2 ай бұрын
    • Since he won the champions league and the premier league

      @mitchaelhollingsworth1698@mitchaelhollingsworth16982 ай бұрын
    • Artera won a CL and PL? I must of missed that😂

      @ricefarmer3487@ricefarmer34872 ай бұрын
    • I think it's more the rebuild. Say what you want about Arteta, he has broken the PL duopoly of Pep/Klopp in the sense those two have been forced to take a 3rd power seriously.

      @ciaranoconnell4783@ciaranoconnell47832 ай бұрын
    • @@mitchaelhollingsworth1698you what ? 😐

      @vandammejam@vandammejam2 ай бұрын
  • Fantastic recruitment. Fantastic play style. Horrible Injuries. Lost one of the greatest strikers in the game. 100% right track.

    @nate_wil@nate_wil2 ай бұрын
    • Lost? Getting 100 million for a player doesn't exactly qualify as LOSING the player. Ah, the narratives. Whatever makes you feel better I guess. 😂

      @Never_Wr0ng@Never_Wr0ng2 ай бұрын
    • @@Never_Wr0ngokay so because Spurs got a lot of money for him, it’s not a loss no longer having the best striker/one of the best playmakers in the world? No matter how much money you get, there are very very very few players as good as Harry Kane

      @masongrey2832@masongrey28322 ай бұрын
    • @@Never_Wr0ngand to extend on my point, would you rather have the best striker on the planet or £100m? I know I’d definitely prefer the former

      @masongrey2832@masongrey28322 ай бұрын
    • @@masongrey2832 Nothing to do with the original comment. You're just blabbering. Kane was SOLD. Spurs didn't LOSE him. So stop pretending.

      @Never_Wr0ng@Never_Wr0ng2 ай бұрын
    • @@masongrey2832 You lot are out here pretending you have neither the striker nor 100 million. That's what I'm referring to.

      @Never_Wr0ng@Never_Wr0ng2 ай бұрын
  • Yes. Fun to watch again as well. COYS

    @druidnia@druidnia2 ай бұрын
  • My first time of watching and I really enjoyed it,very informative. Thanks

    @ncoyne1@ncoyne1Ай бұрын
  • Love how real this guy is 🔥

    @jameshodgson9875@jameshodgson98752 ай бұрын
  • His first year is always not great... as an aussie I always thought with better players he could get results quicker which I think he has... next year will be huge for him. he usually he goes for tricky wingers which he doesnt quite have atm.

    @juz882010@juz8820102 ай бұрын
  • Ange is like Klopp and Pep. He’s succeeded almost everywhere he’s gone and chosen where he wants to go. He’s also not a young coach. He knows what he’s doing.

    @yohanson1377@yohanson13772 ай бұрын
    • He has succeeded in shit leagues and is usually personal friends with club management or owners .

      @ht8286@ht82862 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ht8286:...and....? You don't think having good relationships with bosses and players is important? Not every successful manager became successful by being on wink wink nudge nudge relationships just because you're trying to be!

      @ozzymick1431@ozzymick1431Ай бұрын
  • Very fascinating podcast! Thanks guys!

    @Taecoconut@Taecoconut2 ай бұрын
  • I think you are discounting ange's history in delivering with teams that have not been expected to win. Brisbane, Yokohama in particular. Personally, I'll be putting 100 on tottenham for the league next season.

    @matthewfreeman4879@matthewfreeman48792 ай бұрын
  • Until we get rid of feeling a pressure to win something we'll always fail. As a Spurs fan it's obviously frustrating we haven't won things, but looking for a quick solution isn't the answer. We need a long term plan and to find the pieces that fit and simply be patient. Build for sustainability and not look for immediate success. Ange has brought the culture of entertaining attacking football back to Spurs and you can see how players with certain skill sets can improve his playstyle further. VDV has shown that and I wouldn't say Maddison is anywhere close to being world class, but he's shown the style of player needed for that role...even he can be improved on though!!! It's promising and we need to get away from thinking Spurs/Ange has limited time to win something

    @daveyfunk@daveyfunk2 ай бұрын
  • Even when refs and VAR are wrong, Ange never blames them, he respects the game, very few managers like this, Brendan Roger’s on the week end embarrassed himself at having a go at the refs and VAR

    @williamwebb5955@williamwebb59552 ай бұрын
  • Great, objective, informative and fabulously presented

    @colintautz4246@colintautz42462 ай бұрын
  • Happy Sarr is finally getting the recognition he deserves

    @jrd7307@jrd73072 ай бұрын
    • 100% easily our most important player this year it's nuts that we looked at this kid who was in a relegation battle in the French league and decided to sign him

      @Wooldrog@Wooldrog2 ай бұрын
  • Considering its his first year and Spurs are arguably in a rebuild, losing a few of their most senior, important players, I think hes doing a great job. As a neutral, even though the trophiless jokes can be funny, it'd be nice to see them win something. Also, the more teams in the mix for the top 4/ title the better imo, especially when they're playing such beautiful football.

    @chiefbeef9905@chiefbeef99052 ай бұрын
  • Hes had a good start with a quick turn around from where they were. Whether they get Champions League/not will be interesting but yeah solid effort so far, even with seeking vindication. On the tactics of being quite offensive all the time, but look Im an Aussie. So aside from that VAR moment Im not gonna have a bad thing to say about him. He was the bridge between previous national team management and now Graham Arnold for Socceroos. And now done well in the club sphere again after that

    @stephenphilipps3360@stephenphilipps33602 ай бұрын
  • The future is really clear: Levy didn't spend almost a decade building this stadium for the purpose of 20 homes games a year. It's an insane cash cow - he wants 30 homes matches a year (plus 30 major secondary events, council permission now pending). You only do that by going deep in the (3) cup comps. Next stage is a full City-sized 25-adult squad, with under 21s pushing them. Goodness knows Levy has been shaving adult numbers off his squads for 1/4 of a century. Now, though, with the stadium heaving and the fan base buzzing, is the moment.

    @andyb3712@andyb37122 ай бұрын
    • It is the moment but " to dare is too dear"

      @grahammerry7031@grahammerry70312 ай бұрын
  • Postecoglou learnt from Puskas. That is real royalty.

    @iliasmastoris529@iliasmastoris5292 ай бұрын
  • Turned 50 last year. Tottenham born and bred..poor me. 🤣 I often wonder if we’ll ever win a title in my lifetime. Not holding my breath, but as most fans would realistically hope for, I’d be over the moon just to see us win silverware more regularly and be a great team to watch. My biggest disappointment was not losing the CL final, but not progressing thereafter. An interesting discussion, but ultimately we just have to see how ambitious we really are, and for that to happen, we need to spend like never before. And that’s up to the owners. Is Ange the man to then get the best out of a deeply talented squad? 🤷‍♂️

    @michaelrogers526@michaelrogers5262 ай бұрын
  • The measure of a good coach is getting the most out of the players you have. Ange has done that at every club he has coached, and he’s doing it at Spurs.

    @rolopolo66@rolopolo662 ай бұрын
  • Ange has a track record of identifying very talented players that are available at bargain prices and then through his playing style and coaching increases their out put and value. He can also work with existing players at a club and improve their performance and increase their value - Ange does this everywhere he coaches e.g. Kyogo, Hatate ,Mieda, Oreilly, Abada, Juranovic, Van der Men, Vicario, Udoggie, Madison, Sarr, Bissouma

    @elastotec173@elastotec1732 ай бұрын
  • From the beginning Postecoglou had a long term plan. He was criticised for playing the subs (mostly) for the Fulham game that they lost on penalties, but given that he had such a disrupted preseason that was the only chance to assess in a serious game who would stay and who would go. And he made the right decisions. Also, the game that Spurs lost against Chelsea shows his long term vision, playing with 9 they didn't go back and defended but kept playing exactly the same, and they could even have drawn the game. He is playing several players who wouldn't get a chance with previous managers, young, skilful, attacking minded, and brought in people who fit the same mould. Enjoy it!

    @georgefernandez7558@georgefernandez75582 ай бұрын
  • The most exciting aspect of Ange's presence at the club has been putting the attention on the academy. Changing how we go about scouting, retaining and training young players to have a greater success rate from academy when it comes to first team football. Important building blocks for creating sustained success is so important to tottenham.

    @LuBeDaddY12@LuBeDaddY122 ай бұрын
  • “Spurs are conceding a fair bit” Only the 5th least conceded goals in the league . Wouldn’t call consider that terrible

    @ronforeman8394@ronforeman83942 ай бұрын
    • It doesn't matter how many you concede if you score more, that's coming

      @liamoconlocha3264@liamoconlocha32642 ай бұрын
    • I feel like that chelsea game has stayed in everyones minds and has been the basis of how people look at spurs. Personally i think they are not taking the positives of what that game brought as a statement of intent. Everyone seems to forget how close we were to actually winning that game with 9 men and making chelsea look closer what they are and their results have proven that.

      @LuBeDaddY12@LuBeDaddY122 ай бұрын
    • It's not that spurs concede less It's that when they do concede they lose incredibly important points against teams they should on paper be winning against. They always lose by one or two points carelessly in matches that matter the most against teams they can absolutely beat. Losing against Fulham today by 3 is an embarrassment for a top of the table team, losing 2-1 to wolves, they have a pattern of needlessly losing to bottom of the table teams, that's what seperates this current seasons spurs to the top 4 teams. Are the players underestimating the lower table teams or just plain unlucky? I don't know, but it is a very ugly pattern emerging.

      @TheIMadManI@TheIMadManI2 ай бұрын
    • @@LuBeDaddY12 Chelsea was the best game I have ever watched .... even though we lost

      @cxv6367@cxv6367Ай бұрын
    • @@TheIMadManI Fulham also beat Arsenal ... there are no guaranteed wins in the prem

      @cxv6367@cxv6367Ай бұрын
  • Great content

    @sebseb8643@sebseb86432 ай бұрын
  • At 5:40, totally agree! Not so much the winning, its everything else, culture etc, positive direction

    @justinmather6673@justinmather66732 ай бұрын
  • Top 4 and Europe is a priority in Ange Head- He is deflecting the pressure away from his players- skill full management- You got to be in it to win full stop so I am backing the experience in Europe as part of the development.

    @peterpapadimitriou7744@peterpapadimitriou7744Ай бұрын
  • Need to continue the great recruitment over the past 24 months to give him the resources to develop the tactics and control games better

    @Mark-sg2ri@Mark-sg2ri2 ай бұрын
    • Who have we signed ? Maddison and van de ven are the only players that would get into the top two team squad. Bj, kulu, timo arent that good. They are OK, but do you really think they are good recruitment. We signed drago that doesn't even play

      @stephen2992@stephen29922 ай бұрын
    • @@stephen2992 in the past 24 months I’d put into the top signings being Porro, Udogie, Vic, Micky, Madders and Kulu it’s about potential and building for the future. It took Klopp 4 seasons to win his first league title.

      @Mark-sg2ri@Mark-sg2ri2 ай бұрын
    • Yeah but Tottenham will never be better then arsenal ok fine from 2014 until 2022 your useless club was better then my beloved arsenal but did you ever win anything atleast we won the fa cup even in our bad time

      @shin2463@shin24632 ай бұрын
  • 2 wingers and a DM And another creator. And maybe a depth option for Van De Ven.

    @athreyathandeswaran7510@athreyathandeswaran75102 ай бұрын
    • Did you watch Dragusin against Villa? The back up is already there - add Phillips next season and we've got strength in depth.

      @LeslieDiablerets@LeslieDiablerets2 ай бұрын
    • Still need 1 more if you want to build squad depth to compete with city

      @lukemyszka9292@lukemyszka92922 ай бұрын
  • one thing spurs have struggled with even back when poch was in charge had a great first 11 but just a first 11 doesnt win you trophies we need an actual squad with decent players to bring on off the bench when its not going well and i feel we are on the right track for that now which i feel in next few seasons could make all the difference

    @solidsnake6243@solidsnake62432 ай бұрын
  • Set piece xGA - people forget quickly how may set pieces Harry Kane used to head clear.

    @sydneyduke428@sydneyduke4282 ай бұрын
  • This should be a 30-minute long video with only one screen that says "yes"

    @jameelsulaiman2720@jameelsulaiman27202 ай бұрын
  • In fairness, a lot of Tottenham fans who watch the team regularly could see that Hojbjerg and Skipp were far off the quality in the middle of the park that rivals had. Sarr clearly had a lot of potential but was so young, so it's not clear how much Ange has developed him vs. a natural progression of a top U21 player globally. Bissouma hasn't really improved on his Brighton performances. Udogie came straight in and is elite. Ange cannot surely be credited with this: could see from his Udinese (??) games that he had some incredible qualities. Son was developed in a big way by Mourinho. As was Kane who was given the freedom to roam a bit like he did at youth level. Romero and Porro have certainly improved under Ange, though.

    @teb7426@teb74262 ай бұрын
  • Tottenham have conceded 13 goals in the 12 games that their first choice back 4 have played. Ange issue is the drop off to the back ups, and having to play Emerson and Davies as CBs for 10 games.

    @sydneyduke428@sydneyduke4282 ай бұрын
  • I don't know if his game will succeed in the EPL but it is fun to watch and right now that's good enough for me.

    @patco8181@patco81812 ай бұрын
  • Please stop with these crude comparisons between initial manager stints at clubs, totally lacking context; the same comparison was trotted out to laud Ten Haag even though the stats + eye test could tell you he was overachieving and reversion to the mean would catch up with him. The rest of your analysis is where the value is, i.e., comparing him with with his predecessors in terms of football ethos, man management, recruitment and progress on the pitch and off it.

    @philipmatthewoconnor@philipmatthewoconnor2 ай бұрын
  • Short answer - Yes! Long answer - Yeeeeeeeeeees!

    @indianastones6032@indianastones60322 ай бұрын
    • Looooool

      @WinWingWin@WinWingWin2 ай бұрын
  • He's perfect for spurs. They probably won't win anything with him but he plays good football and will do enough for top 4 every season

    @BrandonAyong@BrandonAyong2 ай бұрын
    • Top 4 every season? They probably won't get top 4 this season. They'll benefit from 5th being a CL spot tho.

      @theblackswordsman9951@theblackswordsman99512 ай бұрын
    • @@theblackswordsman9951 yeah I meant top 4 contenders

      @BrandonAyong@BrandonAyong2 ай бұрын
    • He will win silverware. He does that everywhere

      @twosheds2030@twosheds20302 ай бұрын
    • @@twosheds2030 So did Mourinho, and then he went to Spurs

      @theblackswordsman9951@theblackswordsman99512 ай бұрын
    • ​@@theblackswordsman9951you just can't give some credit can you I tell you what give arteta or klomp or pep sheffield with a minimum budget and lets see how they go I can guarantee you ange will do better with sheffield then the other three

      @user-lx8gs1on8z@user-lx8gs1on8z2 ай бұрын
  • YES

    @Ash09873@Ash098732 ай бұрын
  • YES!

    @Cecil-yc6mc@Cecil-yc6mc2 ай бұрын
  • way too many analysts these days.....boring

    @am5790@am57902 ай бұрын
  • Some perspective, please! Tottenham are currently 11 points behind the Arsenal, when at Christmas they were just one point behind them, and are currently sitting in a worst League position than when Conte was sacked exactly one year ago...

    @geoffstern7652@geoffstern76522 ай бұрын
    • 😂 in a far more competitive season this year

      @tzetv@tzetv2 ай бұрын
  • I am just happy to be watching some entertaining and exciting football. I remembered falling asleep watching Mourinho football.

    @codgamer@codgamer2 ай бұрын
  • I don’t give a shit that Ange came from Australia because he’s a fkn legend.COYS.

    @ChubbBates-mh5xp@ChubbBates-mh5xpАй бұрын
  • Yes

    @philwulff201@philwulff2012 ай бұрын
  • Ruth was incredible. First time watching the channel all because clips of Ruth on insta were irresistible

    @brendancook0@brendancook02 ай бұрын
  • He’s doing very well I hope he stays with spurs!

    @martincheeseman5809@martincheeseman58092 ай бұрын
  • Everyone forgets it was Arteta catching covid that put football on lockdown , so Arsenal is a very special case which makes Arteta progress even more impressive on his first job

    @maino_Da_Loc@maino_Da_Loc2 ай бұрын
  • You can use Liverpool and Arsenal as examples to gauge how well Ange is doing IF you apply some context. Both of those teams were in disarray and needed a lot of work to turn the ship around. Whereas Tottenham had been consistently stable for quite a long time before Ange took over. Use them if you want, but the way you're using them is just a way to pat yourself on the back, its of no benefit to us or yourselves because you're not being honest about the true reality of it

    @dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn14182 ай бұрын
  • Yes.

    @musicwithguitars@musicwithguitars2 ай бұрын
  • the other thing spurs will have to reckon with is if they make a european competition, as much as they could already do with a deeper squad, they're going to need an _even deeper_ one to handle those extra minutes.

    @DavidChong@DavidChong2 ай бұрын
    • *larger squad. I'll never understand why the Instagram generation love that word "deeper" and "deep"

      @WOOOPdoctorFROGhere@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere2 ай бұрын
    • @@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere I dunno who you're calling instagram generation bc I'm closer to 50 than 45. regardless it's because you can have a squad that is large (consists of many players) that isn't deep (doesn't have significant quality that you can rely on), conversely you can have a relatively small squad and still have a lot of depth if those players are both good and have some kind of remarkable propensity for never getting fatigued or picking up an injury.

      @DavidChong@DavidChong2 ай бұрын
  • So, I subscribed to this to see if the Athletic was something I'd like to sign up to. But, over the last 6-8 weeks, all I have seen is endless content about Cite, Utd, Arse, Pool and Spurs - do you ever do anything on other teams? [ever not meaning once or twice a year!]

    @stevewebster5729@stevewebster57292 ай бұрын
    • On the podcasts, not much. Once every so often you will have a midtable club that is mentioned, particularly when a new manager arrives. The Athletic itself has several articles on clubs outside the big six, however, as you say, you need a paid subscription. Honestly, I tried it for a year and while some of the in-depth analysis of games is top-notch, I didn't really feel it value-for-money. That and most of the Athletic's podcasts are available for free in Spotify or Google Podcasts, so you don't even need to pay for their flagship content.

      @cyn1clcynide@cyn1clcynide2 ай бұрын
    • @@cyn1clcynide I support the team in 4th - honestly, you'd think they played in Moldovia for all the attention they get...

      @stevewebster5729@stevewebster57292 ай бұрын
  • ENIC have the worst trophy per season percentage stats of any THFC owners since World War Two...

    @geoffstern7652@geoffstern76522 ай бұрын
  • 100%. All arsenal fans agree

    @streetjustice4287@streetjustice4287Ай бұрын
  • Arteta took over a team with one of the best forward lines in the country. They won the FA Cup in his first few months with someone else’s squad. So he had way more to build on Ange took over a dinosaur team that played fossil football. You say he had a pre season - agreed he did. But ended it by losing by far his best player! He’s rebuilt the team and indeed the club, in weeks. He is the real deal. He will win plenty with spurs

    @pauldurdin6163@pauldurdin61632 ай бұрын
  • How many more years before HM Son stays peak and with the club before going retiring or heading to the US

    @davidmartin2331@davidmartin23312 ай бұрын
  • A more important question. What really is the right track for a Tottenham manager?

    @JamesPawk07@JamesPawk07Ай бұрын
  • Yeah he will eventually take them down!!!

    @johnprosser5035@johnprosser50352 ай бұрын
  • I guess we will find out in about 2 years ... if he gets the time

    @cxv6367@cxv6367Ай бұрын
  • If only Sess was not injured so much and Spence got his attitude right, Ange would have a full compliment of quality fbs to choose from.

    @eaka68@eaka682 ай бұрын
    • Yes true

      @WinWingWin@WinWingWin2 ай бұрын
    • Neither for top 4 position too average

      @liamoconlocha3264@liamoconlocha32642 ай бұрын
  • Additional * for Angie in his favor… he lost Harry Kane before the season. Not a bad egg player like auba or Pepe…. The greatest striker in England tat is English’s and academy product. The day before the first game. That’s a huge dressing room loss, in addition to the goals and assists.

    @guv6862@guv68622 ай бұрын
  • HOW ARE SEBS GATES WHY CANT YOU ASK THE MOST PRESSING QUESTIONS

    @2229JMAN@2229JMAN2 ай бұрын
  • The answer is "No, he's not on the right track at Spurs." If he were on the right track, the team would win more often. Just compare them to the scoring ability of Arsenal.

    @mikeq7134@mikeq71342 ай бұрын
  • Ange can even coach the others top European clubs .

    @DrissZyani-bu5mo@DrissZyani-bu5mo2 ай бұрын
  • After spurs winning the milk cup back in the days . Levy had to pay out bonuses to the players . It made levy very uncomfortable and said he wouldn't be doing this again 😂😅

    @waichong9389@waichong93892 ай бұрын
  • Fan since 1967. Yes 1967. We let jimmy greaves go and never truly recovered.

    @chancesareshewears@chancesareshewears2 ай бұрын
    • Time to move on mate. 👍

      @richardbyrnes8398@richardbyrnes83982 ай бұрын
  • A big club is gonna come for Ange soon.

    @praktika1082@praktika10822 ай бұрын
    • why? He is not a young manager, and has done nothing in any of the big leagues

      @user-jl1ry7qp1y@user-jl1ry7qp1y2 ай бұрын
    • @@user-jl1ry7qp1y we all know he's too good for Spuds

      @praktika1082@praktika10822 ай бұрын
    • Do you all know? Last season no bigger club would have taken the chance on Celtics ageing manager. Half a season at spurs and now he should be going to an elite club?

      @Professor_Poots@Professor_Poots2 ай бұрын
    • @@Professor_Poots Ange is a winner. He knows he's not winning anything at Spurs. It's a stepping stone for him.

      @praktika1082@praktika10822 ай бұрын
    • @@praktika1082 sounds like he's not a winner if he's not winning anything

      @Professor_Poots@Professor_Poots2 ай бұрын
  • SEB STAFFORD BLOOR

    @vinniesarkissian5589@vinniesarkissian55892 ай бұрын
  • Yeah

    @jarellcardoza1806@jarellcardoza18062 ай бұрын
  • simple answer yes coys

    @Thomas-zs5wt@Thomas-zs5wt2 ай бұрын
  • Eth finished 4th in first season when klopp didn't manage that.. What does that prove😂😂😂

    @legendaltair2733@legendaltair27332 ай бұрын
  • Regarding recruitment, Daniel Levy has personally chosen the vast majority of incoming players since his appointment as chairman of THFC 23 years ago, and has undermined each and every one of the many coaches he personally selected, backstabbed and then fired!!!

    @geoffstern7652@geoffstern76522 ай бұрын
  • I expect more precise analysis from the best platform. Nuno wasn’t this famous star power manager you carelessly spit about.

    @alekseifedorov949@alekseifedorov9492 ай бұрын
  • People don’t dismiss winning Scottish league with Celtic because they’re snobby about Scottish football - it’s because winning a league with a team that’s done it 10 years in a row isn’t that impressive

    @danc4435@danc44352 ай бұрын
    • The uneducated have no idea about the context of his achievements at Celtic. They finished 25 points behind Rangers the previous season & Ange was a last minute appointment due to first choice Eddie Howe pulling out shortly before kick off.. Cleaned them out & turned them around completely in that first season. won the title plus another trophy. Next season the treble. Historically his teams perform vastly better in the second season. Expect no different at Spurs.

      @michaelriley828@michaelriley8282 ай бұрын
    • @@michaelriley828The fact remains is that Celtic won it 9 times in a row before that one season and his appointment. The chances are that anyone else would have won it again after that one poor season. Celtic won 11 league titles out of last 12 ffs. With 4 different managers, and neither of them is considered a top class manager. For comparison, Neil Lennon has won it 5 times in 9 seasons and he is currently without a job. That's how 'hard' it is to win it with Celtic/Rangers in Scotland. Hell, even Steven Gerrard managed to win it. The way people are talking about it, you'd think he won it with St. Mirren or whoever is the worst over there.

      @Qlicky@Qlicky2 ай бұрын
    • @@michaelriley828crikey, I hope so…

      @guymasterson6767@guymasterson67672 ай бұрын
  • Why are you even asking the question?

    @jaynepoland4615@jaynepoland46152 ай бұрын
  • Great video and great article, but is the moderator a rival fan? What’s he on about?

    @skim7221@skim72212 ай бұрын
    • No he is the one who is supposed to ask sharp questions, one of the few, stop watching bbc

      @liamoconlocha3264@liamoconlocha32642 ай бұрын
  • I think it s really lame that these chaps make no mention of SON, for his contribution as the captain for building the oft alluded ethos, and SON's MVP contribution on the pitch. Lame.

    @parkpeterk@parkpeterkАй бұрын
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