Clippers suffer worst playoff loss in franchise history, Barkley sounds off on media | THE HERD

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The Los Angeles Clippers suffer blowout loss against the Dallas Mavericks in Game 5. Plus, Charles Barkley sounds off on the poor playoff performances and disagrees with the media blaming the coaches. Colin Cowherd shares his thoughts on the Clippers - Mavericks series and Barkley's comments.
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  • Listen to The Skip Bayless Show podcast: sprtspod.fox/SkipBaylessShowPodcast

    @TheHerdOnFS1@TheHerdOnFS116 күн бұрын
    • Don’t plug skip, nobody watching that lmao

      @gageboone1885@gageboone188516 күн бұрын
  • Steve Ballmer got scammed outta $430m. Kawai Street-Clothes is always sneaky enough to do bare minimum to get max dolla and delivered absolutely nothing for clips since 2019

    @lixiang7349@lixiang734916 күн бұрын
    • 😂😂 I'm sorry for the fans, glad for Kawai getting his money, and couldn't care less about multi billionaire losing money. Now, if he pays Playoff P- then I would be furious if I were a clippers fan.

      @Toni-to8je@Toni-to8je16 күн бұрын
    • I'm sure he wants the clippers to lose so he can go on vacation.

      @Michael-tc1dm@Michael-tc1dm16 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Michael-tc1dmKawhi already has 2 rings. He doesn't care.

      @Bookem35@Bookem3515 күн бұрын
    • Good in tech, terrible sports businessman

      @bplayerr1@bplayerr115 күн бұрын
    • LA is laker nation. The clippers are from San Deigo like the chargers in the NFL as San Deigo was too cheap to build them a new stadium and arena for their teams down in San Deigo. Sorry the clippers and chargers should be still in San Deigo not in LA!

      @John-PaulHunt-wy7lf@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf14 күн бұрын
  • That new arena should be in San Diego

    @dionysise5008@dionysise500816 күн бұрын
    • Why there’s nothing but beach bum and tweaks there

      @Ryantheman21@Ryantheman2116 күн бұрын
    • The Clippers should be in San Diego

      @kevinlemelle5402@kevinlemelle540216 күн бұрын
    • San Diego Clippers would be cool. I’d still rename the team and break from their past history. Maybe San Diego Sails like the ABA team or just a cooler name like “ Dragons”. Could sell a ton of merch with a good rebranding.

      @bestlexluthor7596@bestlexluthor759616 күн бұрын
    • San Diego sails - green and royal blue and white

      @dreamcage1801@dreamcage180116 күн бұрын
    • They are building a new arena in San Diego and possibly get a NBA team

      @dreamcage1801@dreamcage180116 күн бұрын
  • I’ve been a clippers fan for 25 years now. It’s been a long, hard life

    @jasondale219@jasondale21915 күн бұрын
  • Did he just say kyrie was amazing and Luka was just good in game 5? He clearly didn’t watch the game. Can’t take these guys seriously

    @droque2012@droque201215 күн бұрын
  • The players need to start being held accountable with their outrageous salaries. If they want to get paid, they need to perform!

    @jp-nd3vd@jp-nd3vd16 күн бұрын
  • The TNT commentary is often better than the game, especially during the regular season when players don't show-up.

    @dskwared2u610@dskwared2u61016 күн бұрын
    • Because they tell it as it is. Guys like JJ Reddick make excuses for stuff everyone sees.

      @KNByam@KNByam16 күн бұрын
    • During the regular season I record and watch TNT/inside the NBA, I rarely ever watch the games. If they lose that crew and television rights I might completely skip the NBA regular season.

      @JoePesos@JoePesos15 күн бұрын
  • I think we appreciate TNT post game because we know they are going to tell it like it is. As knowledgeable basketball viewers, we appreciate honest, critical takes on the games, players, team, or coaches from the tnt crew. They provide real analysis on where the shortcomings and miscuing occurred but also only give credit to where it was due. We see the fallacies of our team with our own eyes so it's nice when commentators are validating our observations or are shooting straight with us. If this is not happening we lose interest in post game shows because true basketball fans dont like dishonest flattery of commentary.

    @nzonesportssocal2458@nzonesportssocal245816 күн бұрын
    • Lol the tnt crew is very biased towards certain teams. They know damn well the mavericks defense has been the best in the league for months now, no credit at all from them. They also can't stand the fact that Luka and the Joker are the faces of the league right now. There is nothing but hate out-of those guys. I can't take them serious at all. I like Chuck and Shaq but damn, get over yourselves.

      @jamescoldeyes4426@jamescoldeyes442615 күн бұрын
  • Just yesterday, Colin said that PG was the most underrated player in the NBA. Today, he isn’t any good. 🤦‍♂️

    @bestowisdom@bestowisdom16 күн бұрын
    • These analysts are a joke

      @KPyles89@KPyles8916 күн бұрын
    • He is 1 of the most underrated players. Doesn't mean he didn't wet the bed last night

      @packers12to80@packers12to8016 күн бұрын
    • Well, he's not.

      @skineyemin4276@skineyemin427616 күн бұрын
    • Him and Nichols both were giving him a few too many flowers!😅

      @LargeGrizzlyBear@LargeGrizzlyBear16 күн бұрын
    • @@packers12to80He says the “other guys stink”. Kawhi isn’t available and the “other guys stink” , not that he played poor in this game.

      @bestowisdom@bestowisdom15 күн бұрын
  • They'll never win a championship in LA. Players go to LA to play for Lakers more than the Clippers!

    @anthonyslazas6413@anthonyslazas641316 күн бұрын
  • Kawhi makes AD seem like an iron man

    @mikekillagreen9432@mikekillagreen943215 күн бұрын
  • Darvin Ham started Taurean Prince and Cam Reddish for 50+ games this year. That alone deserves a pink slip.

    @ryanestabrooke111@ryanestabrooke11115 күн бұрын
  • Colin must have not watched the game. Luka was cooking, not Kyrie. Although Kyrie played well.

    @knox8113@knox811315 күн бұрын
  • I don’t think Colin watched the game lol

    @Jsteele03@Jsteele0316 күн бұрын
    • 😂😂😂

      @Tremelle_@Tremelle_15 күн бұрын
  • Someone needs to fix the volume on these videos. I have KZhead volume cranked to the max and I can barely hear Colin. I can hear other videos perfectly fine.

    @justinchan6043@justinchan604316 күн бұрын
    • Been like this for months. I don't think anyone besides viewers read the comments.

      @poststalone1496@poststalone149615 күн бұрын
    • ...no, it's to get us subliminally thinking about the volume, colin's company...

      @peadarmcgrath6530@peadarmcgrath653015 күн бұрын
  • Did Colin even watch the game?

    @gabriel-uc1uz@gabriel-uc1uz16 күн бұрын
    • Nah

      @joskyyebo@joskyyebo16 күн бұрын
    • Of course not

      @connor_phillipz5689@connor_phillipz568916 күн бұрын
    • he went to the game lmao

      @GoatedAtNFS@GoatedAtNFS16 күн бұрын
    • @@GoatedAtNFS Being there is not the same as actually watching the game and processing what happened

      @connor_phillipz5689@connor_phillipz568916 күн бұрын
    • ​@@connor_phillipz5689 What exactly happened? I saw the Clippers getting a major beat down. Didn't you?

      @EnterpriseNCC-1701@EnterpriseNCC-170115 күн бұрын
  • Balmer should just move the team to Seattle

    @mrunlimited3@mrunlimited316 күн бұрын
    • Preach

      @fadeawaybrown@fadeawaybrown16 күн бұрын
  • Clippers are the Fredo franchise of Los Angeles. And if you live here, you KNOW it.

    @valis14@valis1416 күн бұрын
  • colin picked the clippers to win game 5 btw

    @mrtacoboutit1194@mrtacoboutit119416 күн бұрын
    • yeah plenty of people did this isn’t an own or something

      @reviewer0418@reviewer041816 күн бұрын
    • @@reviewer0418ok…but Colin was wrong

      @murphybrown1366@murphybrown136616 күн бұрын
    • What platform do you publicly make your picks on?

      @TheBrotherHoodSports@TheBrotherHoodSports16 күн бұрын
  • Man did not watch the game. Luka was spectacular not just hobbled around

    @ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur579515 күн бұрын
  • The story is always "the fall of the Clippers". What about the rise of the Mavs????

    @brucecrawford649@brucecrawford64916 күн бұрын
    • Because beating the trade merchant harden and pandemic P is not a big feat……

      @murphybrown1366@murphybrown136616 күн бұрын
    • ​@@murphybrown1366 you sure? Weren't the Clips one of the best teams in the West? Cope some more.

      @marcvillegas7835@marcvillegas783516 күн бұрын
    • Are the Mavs rising? were they a bottom feeder last year? Luka's been an on-again off-again MVP candidate for like the last 3-4 years, their "rise" if anything was outgunning the Suns, who had just been to the finals the year before, to advance to the West final. This is expected for the Mavs at this point and its an ongoing tragedy for the Clippers.

      @HalooINC@HalooINC16 күн бұрын
    • @@marcvillegas7835bruh u guys are beating a team without their best player

      @bauer_lives5196@bauer_lives519616 күн бұрын
    • @@bauer_lives5196Mavs best player has not played either

      @Dixonmcdixon@Dixonmcdixon15 күн бұрын
  • Come on they always come for the players on ESPN. Lebron/KD legacy is always on the line on a random tuesday night vs the hornets on nbatv

    @Nhlanhla016@Nhlanhla01616 күн бұрын
  • Podcast P The Trade Merchant and Westbrick were all in playoff form

    @datsapaddlin@datsapaddlin16 күн бұрын
  • Excellent take on the coaching conundrum 👏👏👏

    @hereintt6812@hereintt681212 күн бұрын
  • Anyone who thinks Darvin Ham doesn’t deserve the majority of the blame those loses wasn’t paying attention or doesn’t know basketball lmao

    @spidavenom4@spidavenom415 күн бұрын
  • I wonder if it's the GM that leaked the story to the media that "Coach has lost the locker room"?

    @chrisyang05@chrisyang0515 күн бұрын
  • “Kyrie Irving was amazing, spectacular.. And Luka, hobbling around was good too” You obviously don’t watch these games

    @tylermartinmusic@tylermartinmusic16 күн бұрын
  • There’s no patience with aging stars that’s ring chasing

    @TreMac357@TreMac35712 күн бұрын
  • can only speak for the sixers situation since that’s all i watch…Brett Brown wasn’t fit to led them, just fill the gap while they went thru the process…Glenn Rivers stinks, blames it on his players, doesn’t make adjustments, doesn’t play young guys…same stuff throughout his career now has brought the bucks down too…win or lose, Nick Nurse has been great this year

    @theFRIS@theFRIS16 күн бұрын
  • What's up with the low volume, Colin?

    @theclient6251@theclient625113 күн бұрын
  • Mark Daigneault was finalist for coach of the year last season.

    @Max-kw2hp@Max-kw2hp16 күн бұрын
  • Mavs new Lob City boi....GREAT takes about dif b/w espn and tnt analysis and coaches overly blamed a lot uncle colin

    @mariopippin3008@mariopippin300813 күн бұрын
  • The disrespect towards David West is flat out disgusting

    @JustJakesTake@JustJakesTake16 күн бұрын
  • This guy is the classic Monday morning QB

    @Powernab@Powernab12 күн бұрын
  • Hey Colin - The tubular metal thing hanging off to the side of your face pointing towards the middle of the room is called a MICROPHONE. Use it.

    @carrite@carrite15 күн бұрын
  • 3:11 Colin dismissively saying “Luka was good too” when he was clearly the best player on the court last night & had his best game of the series thusfar is comical

    @JRMason-ri4ii@JRMason-ri4ii16 күн бұрын
    • These people are trained to make Luka look bad. They don't want the masses to turn on them when they give they steal the Mvp from Luka and give it to a sub par guy that only scores points.

      @jamescoldeyes4426@jamescoldeyes442615 күн бұрын
    • He didnt see the game for sure

      @miguelangelleoacedo1968@miguelangelleoacedo196815 күн бұрын
    • Cowherd should be ashamed. I love Kyrie but saying he was “Amazing, Spectacular” scoring 14 on 6 of 14 while Luca was a meh “good too” scoring 35 on 14 of 26 with 7 and 10?!? Just shows his bias and demonstrates that he should not be getting paid for his analysis.

      @rogerhunkapillar7171@rogerhunkapillar717115 күн бұрын
    • @@jamescoldeyes4426 subpar is insane dhai is on lukas level this season

      @teddrickhargrave@teddrickhargrave12 күн бұрын
    • @@rogerhunkapillar7171 pure racism at its finest.

      @jamescoldeyes4426@jamescoldeyes442612 күн бұрын
  • Anytime all three California teams get put out of the playoffs in the NBA it's a great day!

    @lordraiden1@lordraiden113 күн бұрын
  • The Clippers never should have moved from San Diego. The franchise seems to be cursed as a franchise.

    @johnnoone4323@johnnoone432312 күн бұрын
  • Only people that don’t watch or follow the lakers throughout the full season says dumb stuff like Colin

    @clutchspace4217@clutchspace421716 күн бұрын
  • Nah, colin be cooking with this one 😭

    @morganworkman4165@morganworkman416512 күн бұрын
  • first these analysts are all about LA bulls, then reality hits and they act like they hadnt crowned them previously. unbelievable.

    @rfalas@rfalas13 күн бұрын
  • Excellent takes

    @Wopstar-777@Wopstar-77714 күн бұрын
  • It took him FOREVER to get there… this should’ve been a 3 min segment.

    @dylantodd9574@dylantodd957414 күн бұрын
  • Worst playoff game in franchise history for the Clippers, but not exactly a large data population

    @williamamsbary5226@williamamsbary522615 күн бұрын
  • Somebody had a drink or two before going on air today 😂

    @John-oo8tm@John-oo8tm15 күн бұрын
  • You can wait for a coach to develop when your players are on the same timeline. Bron, Giannis, and Joel are on win now, not wait 4 years for ham to be good

    @hunterdelay3092@hunterdelay309213 күн бұрын
  • They added James Harden. This was only going to end one way.

    @CBrown@CBrown12 күн бұрын
  • Some nights im not sure if i tune in for x game or the tnt guys

    @Theiliteritesbian@Theiliteritesbian13 күн бұрын
  • Ohtani mess with dodgers? He’s hitting 350 after his friend stole $16 million.. holy reach 😂

    @FuzzyFromYT@FuzzyFromYT16 күн бұрын
    • ‼️

      @coe9706@coe970616 күн бұрын
    • If you believe that story I got oceanfront property in Idaho I'd like to sell you

      @jacklumsden7444@jacklumsden744416 күн бұрын
    • Yeah I was confused by that. He just makes things up

      @landonic81@landonic8116 күн бұрын
    • @@jacklumsden7444 yeah the much more likely scenario is that the IRS, FBI and Homeland Security etc all colluded to cover up for a Japanese baseball player lol like give me a break, that makes no sense... i know everyone loves to make everything a conspiracy these days but use some sense

      @mattcarberry368@mattcarberry36816 күн бұрын
    • There are MAJOR GAMBLING Accusations against ohtani & his business manager. Ohtani "claims" he knew nothing but that's a lie.

      @Umbrella_TV@Umbrella_TV15 күн бұрын
  • Los angeles is NEVER going to be a flipper town

    @romeosira3665@romeosira366514 күн бұрын
  • Astute commentary here. Love it.

    @Guacamole44479@Guacamole4447913 күн бұрын
  • Can Doc Rivers coach?? Stop it Colin

    @Olyphantman@Olyphantman16 күн бұрын
  • Colin laughing now at Clippers players, it seems he forgot he picked the Clippers to win. Disgusting. He also forgets to mention Luka and Kyrie have exposed him again.

    @sergegaash@sergegaash13 күн бұрын
  • Coaches don't play the game, yes. But the reality of what's inside the player's minds when things are going on is the adjustments. If a coach doesn't win over his players with good adjustments, they lose faith. In a lot of cases, I would say its childish, but this is the way people are; they want miracles from thee but not from me. As a coach you must be stoic, definitive and effective especially with adjustments which makes up over half the game plan. Lastly, you need better players, quicker, better passers, above the rim, more thicker flesh on defense, and of course a winning attitude.

    @ericwilliams626@ericwilliams62615 күн бұрын
  • Funny how mavs exit in game 7😂

    @alvinuk9504@alvinuk950414 күн бұрын
  • bro did everything except talk about the game

    @dylanburris9593@dylanburris959315 күн бұрын
  • 09:20 Are you mad Colin? Gordon was feasting on the boards because Lebron wasn't boxing out. Lebron had multiple plays a game where he did get back. If AD didn't get back, I may tolerate that because he had to guard that Joker monster the whole series. Stop with the lies man

    @collllllll@collllllll16 күн бұрын
  • Fox News and moderate in the same sentence is hilarious. They’re pretty dang conservative. They definitely aren’t moderate leaning at all.

    @Omgitsjoshers123@Omgitsjoshers12315 күн бұрын
  • You keep losing close games. Its the coach

    @mikekillagreen9432@mikekillagreen943215 күн бұрын
  • Best take ever I agree

    @FATHERSOFBASS@FATHERSOFBASS15 күн бұрын
  • I’m curious to know the market for Kawhii assuming he’s available 🤔

    @cedrickcarson@cedrickcarson15 күн бұрын
  • Without Kawhi chances of Winning are dubious....another setback for the KLAW & Clippers why & why every playoffs since 2020 he suffered misfortunes due to injury and exactly on the playoffs something the curse must be broken

    @jaymanquiamco8810@jaymanquiamco881015 күн бұрын
  • Weird side swipe at Michigan State. Colin must be forgetting the multiple conference championships, Rose, Cotton, Peach Bowl wins… I’d say we did alright.

    @ShadeXH@ShadeXH15 күн бұрын
  • How is this guy one of the most relevant in sports media history? Not trying to hate honest question I rather listen to Madd Dogg on his radio

    @ricardobalboajr.6573@ricardobalboajr.657312 күн бұрын
  • This was one of the best shows cowherd had in awhile

    @johnlopez8938@johnlopez893815 күн бұрын
  • How many coaches has Lebron had fired? Double digits yet?

    @Silverfox1982@Silverfox198212 күн бұрын
  • AD didn't leak anything to his agent. He skewered Ham in a press conference publicly.

    @thomascrowniii1693@thomascrowniii169316 күн бұрын
  • I’m a fan of Cowherd however, just yesterday he was singing the praise of Paul George a little too loud lol.

    @LargeGrizzlyBear@LargeGrizzlyBear16 күн бұрын
  • Love ya Colin but it's 2024. Ditch 720p and please fix the audio is so damn quiet.

    @jamesfarley4410@jamesfarley441015 күн бұрын
  • They need a name change & a whole new identity, start over new with the new arena!

    @mannied6395@mannied639516 күн бұрын
  • Might sound crazy but I think they should move. They’ll never get out of the shadow of the lakers

    @_Mike23@_Mike2315 күн бұрын
  • Sorry Colin, but Inside the NBA is perfect

    @justsomedude2636@justsomedude263616 күн бұрын
  • Lakers never quit...it's just that their effort is proportional to the time left in the game and nobody can get AD to travel to away games, which is ironic.

    @bobdrooples@bobdrooples15 күн бұрын
  • Idk what Colin is smoking but yeah closing games matters more than having the lead the majority of the time but not when it counts

    @8997024@899702416 күн бұрын
  • Some NBA superstars seem to dislike playing basketball and will sit out with a hang nail.

    @christopher7824@christopher782415 күн бұрын
  • Balmer should've moved them to Seattle.

    @mrjoshua1979@mrjoshua197915 күн бұрын
  • Leaving out the star player hitting game winners for Denver

    @buddylove9436@buddylove943616 күн бұрын
  • They need to leave the city of angels

    @yellowbear521@yellowbear52116 күн бұрын
  • Defending Darvin Ham for leading 70% of the series is insane. This isn’t how wins are measured 🤯…1-12 against the Nuggets. Case closed. Also, anyone who knows ball realizes that Ham can’t do the simple things…like call a timeout or know when to challenge. By the way, a coach can lose a locker room and the players can still play hard. Players play for their pride, their teammates, their fans…they don’t JUST play for the coach. This reminds me why I stopped listening to Colin and his dumb takes

    @realmadridforever77@realmadridforever7712 күн бұрын
  • That was actually a smart insightful video, this dude gets too much hate

    @ScholarlyHiccup@ScholarlyHiccup15 күн бұрын
  • When do we blame the organisation for Lakers poor recruitment????

    @IamAndreThompson@IamAndreThompson16 күн бұрын
  • The Herd with Colin Cowherd fyi YOUR VOLUME IS WAY TOO LOW. PUMP UP THE VOLUME ...DANCE.. SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE ON 3 PUT IT UP TO 7 OUT OF 10 MAX VOLUME . PEACE

    @Vvrroommm@Vvrroommm15 күн бұрын
  • Balmer should not have extended Kawhi. He wants a star for his new arena. I get it. But Kawhi does not put fans in seats.

    @johnwhite2412@johnwhite241216 күн бұрын
    • Kawhi is irrelevant and has been for a while.

      @landonic81@landonic8116 күн бұрын
  • I knew Kawhi was going to pull that stunt. He played all season, until they signed him, then he went back to being injured.

    @KNByam@KNByam16 күн бұрын
  • Balance fox media 770 millions

    @lestercaldera3776@lestercaldera377615 күн бұрын
  • Everyone who overreacted to the win streak forgot how bad Harden fit in the beginning

    @mikekillagreen9432@mikekillagreen943215 күн бұрын
  • Maybe the Clippers should consider moving out of LA

    @gjohannes1344@gjohannes134416 күн бұрын
  • With the way Colin talks about the clippers and Lakers, you'd think it was the clippers that lost in 5 games 😂

    @RedHoodFH@RedHoodFH16 күн бұрын
    • I think it's because the Clippers gave away SGA to OKC and got Playoff P in return.

      @daveclark8337@daveclark833716 күн бұрын
  • why is this always so low volume

    @imjustlikebud@imjustlikebud16 күн бұрын
    • J Mac doesn't know what he's doing with the uploads

      @landonic81@landonic8116 күн бұрын
  • Let's name a coaching Lebron Career that succeeded... erik Spolsta.. End of list. You can argue for Try Lue, the only 2 coaches Bron supported throughout his career, Spol and Lue.. Every other coach in his career, he didn't want and not a single of of then can get a job coaching high school basketball in the States.. 😂

    @kyleanderson4860@kyleanderson486015 күн бұрын
  • I disagree, ........what the nuggets did to them a few years ago in the playoffs has to be the worst for the clippers!

    @Denverscorpio@Denverscorpio16 күн бұрын
  • Jets, Mets, Nets, Clippers, White Sox, Islanders. The least fav teams in their cities lol

    @ChrisMrPeligroBoone@ChrisMrPeligroBoone16 күн бұрын
  • Volume trash

    @comeonna9361@comeonna936116 күн бұрын
  • The Lakers played for each other, but they did not play for Ham. He was not the only problem, and may not have been the most significant factor. However, he's not a good coach and doesn't deserve the defense he is receiving.

    @cookiecrisp1988@cookiecrisp198816 күн бұрын
  • The Clippers are without their best player, I get that Kawhi is probably the most unhealthy superstar in the league, but the series is not over yet. Let's see how the Clippers respond in game 6. It's the Playoffs, is not one game is the best of 7, blowout happens its about who in the end that wins the series.

    @adryanyudhatrisna1944@adryanyudhatrisna194416 күн бұрын
  • Not a good time to pile on guy. The Lakers suck. The Clippers will make changes with the old players.

    @rem1762@rem176216 күн бұрын
  • Suns need to trade booker

    @packers12to80@packers12to8016 күн бұрын
  • If you are thinking the Darvin Ham didn’t lose the locker room you are delusional, AD Lebron Dlo and Reaves are not with him for sure being professional doesn’t mean you are with the coach

    @yazeedalhudhaif1519@yazeedalhudhaif151916 күн бұрын
  • Although Denver is a really good team, however Mike Malone started winning when the West got weak and he beat a Miami team that was the lowest scoring team to make a Finals ever.. js

    @Olyphantman@Olyphantman16 күн бұрын
  • Im starting to think colin doesnt watch bball. If u watch the lakers all season you would know that darvin ham was a terrible coach and bad at making adjustments...its rumored that other teams even knew this

    @chris.t.389@chris.t.38916 күн бұрын
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