GET BETTER FASTER --- "How To Shoot A Bow For Beginners"
2023 ж. 13 Мау.
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Of these I wish I knew when starting out the arrow thing, I was using similar arrows in spine and weight, but they were different each time in that one set was skinnier then the other that was wood, and another was Fiberglass. Also do not assume if you have a few same weight bows or very similar weight bows with in 1--2 pounds from each other that they will be using the same arrows sure you can try the arrows you have as a cheap reference to see if they will work with the bow but not always is this the case that the arrows will work.
I totally agree! great points and wise words!
@@kramerammonsarchery This was after my friend's dad had got these bows from an estate sale that were adult bows and beginner bows in 1998 the arrows were all off despite being the same made for the same spine. The kids 10--17/18 pound bows the arrows worked fine as you could not be more then 20 feet from the target to have arrows work for those bows. The father got arrows in 1000 spine 3.5--4 mm that were misake print and actually 850--900 spine arrow in full 34 spine that the father cut down to 30 inches and put a tip of a Brad Nail for the tip and early Mr. Fixall in a 17HMR shape only bigger using the Gram equivalent of 100 grains for the arrows.
I'm starting. I'm using this now lol.
@@CADCoinHunters Yes because some bows non compound/or the lever bows need a heavier arrow of the same spine or a lighter arrow of the same spine. Take my all fiberglass made exactly same 1961 to end of 1979 Actionbow by Actionrod 8200 Longbow and my OEELINE Aerobow One Piece 54 inch Recurve (that is name on USA/Canadian Amazon), they take the same spine arrow as I draw them to about the same draw but I had to get some in same spine that used a real feathers for the old recurve as the shelf was a flatter curve to it that I would have fixed myself to look like my recurve at the least had the riser been made of wood and not fiberglass.
@@caseysmith544 ok! That makes sense. Thank you for the info! It is much appreciated!
If you are losing arrows move closer to your target. Someday you will be shooting at longer distances, but you will get a lot more practice in if you are shooting instead of hunting for arrows. If you consistently only use the middle 1/4th of the target, move back a step or two.
And having to replace fletches all the time due to missing will make a person want to not miss that much more.
Yeaaaaa this is good advise 👏
Good tip.
I figured all that out over 15 years ago. Best lecture/demonstration I ever saw and heard. Shoot Three Fingers Under!
I do archery since 1985 and "bravo", your teaching here is real. 100% right.
I have never in my life seen better advice on this subject.
I am long in the tooth and no longer shoot my bows but I still like to read and look at videos of other archers. You mentioned more in such a short time that touched on important things to do to get accurate with a bow. I must be a slow learner as I shot 55 and 60 LB bows when I should have dropped down in weight to shoot tournaments. I would have done even better than I did . I wasn't a bad shooter but I never thought I was as good as I could be even though I won many tournaments . I won every kind of tournaments from club shoots to a state championship .It was the only state shoot I partisipated in. People that want to be a good shooter should heed your advice. Consistency is the answer as you eluded to .I no longer shoot my bows . I can't even pull them to full draw anymore. I look at my recurves and long bows and drift off to yesteryears when I was in my prime. You are a rare commodity that being you know what you are talking about. Thanks for the video!
Whatever it takes to get that Arrow to hit the mark that you are aiming for is what you do and that's what you stay with
I ordered a D-97 string from Shaterproof Archery. I’ll just say it is the best string I have ever placed onto my bow. It probably improved my group by an inch and increased my range by a lot. To anyone who is thinking about getting a string from Kramer, I would say it is worth the money times 20. Great service and great strings.
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You the man!
Great advice!! Even if you're seasoned, it's good to be reminded of these little things. I stopped bow hunting in 2005. I started back in 2022. It was tough, because after 2 shoulder surgeries and 1 hand surgery, the form I was once comfortable with, was no longer comfortable to me. It was like starting from scratch. Now what may look awkward is my most consistent form. Harvested a 10pt this year. Everything you talked about, I had to implement. Shooting at smaller circles inside the circle, consistent draw and release point. Even body posture. Thanks for sharing!! I'm going to let my daughter watch this so she can see, it's not just me saying these little gems. LOL
Brilliant 🤩 Thanks 🏴
Good advice 💯
Thanks for that, Kramer. Love your channel.
Great, no nonsense fast moving. Thank you.
I'm glad you said this about consistency. I weighed my arrows and stopped shooting the outliers. I also didn't worry about the "perfect" release, just a consistent release. It tightened up my groups a lot. Thanks!
When I shot a bow first time I learned to hold the arrow instead of the string and aimed through the arrow and that was pretty consistent for me, but when I later got to shoot a bow someone told me I am doing everything wrong and then I tried aiming with my fingers on the string but that was pretty inconsistent for me. Now I bought my first own 99€ wolfman traditional bow (horseback composite sophora/resin) with 30lb arriving tomorrow, hope that bow is ok and I will find the right shooting technique for me. ^^
I love the total lack of gatekeeping on this channel.
thanks for all the great videos. always super informative.
You covered more topucs in less time than most. Plus your information was easy to understand. Excellent video!
Makes sense. Time to practice.
Damn I really needed to hear this lol
This is actually a very good video full of really good advice! Thx!
Very humble. I like you
A little tip for getting more consistent at aiming, take a paper cup and pin it to your target, back off to 5 yards, and take 3-5 shots at a time until you can place all 3-5 arrows in the cup... Back off another 5 yards and do the same thing, rinse, lather and repeat
6:10 this is great advice. Clear minded advice. We forget that men have been using bows and arrows for a loong time and none of the modern "techniques" nor equipment was around back then and they were and are extremely efficient when hunting and are very accurate.
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Thanks for the video, I'll try to apply the information in it
Thank you great video!!
Another great video!!! Thanks ❤
Starting over with bow hunting after hard fall outta tree. Been over 4 years I can finally pull a recurve back. Gonna harvest a whitetail with it, been visualizing this for years oh yeah and I hunt from the ground now seldom do I get elevated. Thanks for the help
Well spoken absolutely the best explained way on saying it how it should of been said also funny on some of the explained parts you said about your form if it makes you a better shooter then stay with it spot on I'm just starting to learn recurve which is going to be a challenge especially after using a compound for years I still do but I like to be challenged so I'm going for it. Thank you I'm saving this vid in my recurve tutorials.
The shout out to Jake kaminsky and Tom clum made me lol. It’s true! Those guys are great, but you are also correct about consistency even if it’s bad form can bring pretty good accuracy. Great form with consistency is key to be very good, but for most it’s just about having fun.
Love your videos brother!!!! I need to get me a low poundage bow to practice.... Great VIDEO!!!!!
Great video
omg the last line, I'm losing it XD Great vid, great tips! Excited to put these into practice next time.
Thanks for the great tips. I come from Thailand where there are very few archery people, so it's hard to find teaching clips. ❤❤❤
OK so I'm new to archery about 8 months in and my shooting from 20 yards out I've been all over the place. I watched this video and instantly was grouping. Thanks man.
I use a 1 inch post note for my target :) they come in bright colors and makes it easier to eye lock on .
One thing that I've found (and this is just my personal view) that helps me shoot better at shorter distances (below 30 meters, which are realistic hunting distances) is to sometimes just shoot longer distances without too much worrying. Up to a 100 meters is fun and once you start grouping below 10 centimeter groups, you're relaxed enough. After long distance shooting sessions shorter distances feel much more "trivial". I shoot mainly compound bows by the way.
Love it! 😀
I am going to a provincial tournament and I'm gonna use these tips thank you so much! 😀
Nice one 😁
Great advice. Consistency first, then worry about accuracy.
Good video....Thanx
This Channel is great, even the comments are so helpful. At the moment im comfortable at about 10ft away, im getting constant....ish grouping. Im a learner and have alot too learn, but im not rushing, im taking my time and just injoying a hobbie i did when i was a kid, im 52 now and you cant take back time, at first i was messing around with sling shots, very fun also. But archery for me is amazing, and the history of it to is amazing, each country has their own "way" of doing things, none is write or wrong, i think you have to find YOURE way. I also play guitar so i know consistency in practicing is key. Im also happy i didnt go over a 40lb bow, because for me that is perfect for my strengths, i think if i went any higher 1, i wouldn't be as consistence thus not injoying it, 2, and most important it wouldn't be safe. My bow is a cheap but reliable bow, i looked at many reviews on amazon and youtube too choose the bow i have. Im also not rushing out to get another yet, well i lie, i might get another next payday 😂..i live in uk, and from ive seen you make amazing bows, do you sell to over sea? Because one day would love to own a bow from you guy's..thankyou. ps my name is Paul, i read the thing on youre channel lol. Have a great day..
One of the best reasons for going with a lower weight bow is that you can get a lot more shots in per session, simply because you're not worn out. Overdoing things is a big problem when training for any shooting sport, whether it's archery or firearms or slingshots...it doesn't matter. When you're tired and having trouble doing what was once easy, you're less consistent, and you end up making bad habits and killing your own confidence. You're not strength training or building muscle, you're refining a technique. More practice is great, but overdoing it is more detrimental than had you not even trained that day. A lighter bow gives you more time in a session to figure out your technique than a heavier bow would. Get good with a lighter bow, practice your form and release and consistency, and once you're satisfied, then you can move on to heavier bows because you're only having to get used to more draw weight and a different trajectory rather than learning everything from scratch. I started off with a 32# and trained with it for several years, then picked up a 43# and it only took a few days to get just as good with it. Now I'm able to pick up an 85# recurve and be just as consistent, even though that's approaching my max usable draw weight.
Great video, Kramer! I felt encouraged and will keep these principles in mind going forward.
My approach was almost the opposite. I chose to hold off on learning to aim for as long as possible. I just focused on developing great technique and didn't worry about how long it would take to start shooting accurately.
As a barista of 20 yaers having trained hundreds in the skill I agree completely. Better to be consistently bad than sometimes good sometimes bad. Plus if you are more consistent with doing a wierd step in technique, go with it. Gratitude for your ongoing teachings, havend made the jump to stick how yet, but know I must for when the depths of Armageddon hit, and my Matthews z7, and it's backup sister z7, are busy, carbon shafts all spent, release aid dies..... I'm screwed. New archery skill to be learned soon, look forwards to your help. And Claye Hayes ❤ keep your pecker hard and your broadheads sharp, world setting spicy now...🎉
Another tip is to take tape and tape on your target one strip horizontally then shoot. You will notice your left and right results in comparison to what your minds eye sees. Then repeat in vertical aspects. Lonewolf Custom Bows.
I was taught to 'kiss the bow string' so that it touched the centre of my lips and nose. This way it's always at a consistent draw length and never to the left or right so that the string always travels straight
Thanks for the bow string, looks great and fast delivery! will be ordering more, can I do a custom colors? My daughter is going to want Oregon ducks colors.
So true! I am cursed with cross dominance, I shoot right handed but my left eye is dominant. Every archery coach has told me I have 2 options: start over with a 15lb bow and relearn everything shooting lefthanded and gradually increase poundage, or shoot with an eye patch covering my left eye to retrain my brain to favor the right eye out of necessity. . . I said to hell with both and shoot my way because it's most comfortable for me. I cant my bow 45°to the right, anchor at the tip of my chin rather then the corner of my mouth and cock my head to the right so that my left eye is inline with and sighting straight down my arrow shaft and focusing on the target. I don't like closing an eye to shoot, I keep em both open. The ONLY two negatives of my way of shooting are 1. Increased chance of string slap, I gotta have a comfy thick forearm bracer. 2. It doesn't work with thumb release or Slavic release due to the 45° cant.
That's more or less the way I shoot, and I don't have cross dominance. It feels more natural and it's easier to shoot in wooded areas as a bonus. I use a two finger Mediterranean release and curl my index finger slightly over the nock to force the arrow to rest on my hand, and it'll stay there even if I turn the bow upside down. Primary release is possible with lighter bows. Never once had a problem with string slap in any capacity though.
Archers ! At 42 seconds into this post notice this instructors perfect shot sequence and form. Take note of how he lines up his draw arm elbow with the point of his arrow . Notice the release is straight back with no plucking left or right. ! This post is outstanding! Enjoy! 🏹
Just wondering where you get the dice target, or if you have any recommendations that I may be able to get in the UK please?
if your practicing aiming another great way is to focus on the grouping method doesn't matter where you aim as long as you aim at the same target until you learn how your arrows group if they are wide an untamed it means your not consistent on either the way your moving or the way your aiming, once you start getting a nice tight group you can start practicing aiming for the middle target but adjusting where your current aim to where the grouping is by making very small adjustments
New Sub .. Your video came up in my feed this morning (great video btw) which is great because I'm a newbie bow user and this fall I am going to attempt my first bear hunt with a bow. Questions, how do you determine your brace height? And as for draw weight .. I was told that for deer and bear I would need a 40lb draw minimum .. is this true AND how do I determine my draw weight before I buy my traditional bow? the one thing I do think I know is that I need a 66" bow as I am 5''9"
3:16 i understand what you meant but would rather frame it: consistency is greatness. dont train for great form, train for consistent form, and become great.
Awesome. When all else fails,do what works. Can we get a primitive build next...ish? Been learning the does and don'ts of tillering with a double bit ax and a Mora and bout to give up and go get a saw and a chalk line😂. Almost had one done this morning ( even had a string with 3/4 draw and an even bend on an elliptical tiller) then heard a tick while exercising the last tiller. Found where it was coming from and decided it was a faint run off in the grain and a tooling mark on the side of the limb had caused the break. The limb still took far beyond the intended draw to break, but I would rather test the blank than continue just to have it fail anyway. The Dwarf Maple I am using seems tough enough, but I am hunting for some siberian elm for my next try. Thanks for all the info Man you rock.
Thanks so much! I would lobe to do some primitive builds soon! I have a few other videos in the works and scheduled first But I will get there soon! Great job on the bow making that sounds so fun!
I make sure that at least one of my arrows is marked at my bows optimal brace height. 👍
I’m 67 and just started this sport. Wish I would have started sooner , but I’m left eye dominant shooting right handed because who knows, horribly right handed. So I think about shooting like throwing darts or a baseball. Your thoughts?
Hey here’s a question I work with cub scouts a lot a my kids go to the range shoot and get discouraged because there isn’t much repetitive training. They don’t get a chance to get good because we’re on a time limit.
I recently dusted off my 30 year old bow and I'm having fun shooting wildly in the general direction of my new wall of hay bales. My arrow rest is made of a slice of plastic water bottle and some Gorilla tape. My form is poor, my eyesight is failing, my arrows were what they had at the store. My target is drawn with marker, a human size guy named Norman. I still get a head shot about 1 in 10 from 100 feet. Next paycheck I'm investing in a real arrow rest, hopefully bump that up to 1 in 5. No Normans will invade MY yard!
Should I unstring my bow after use each time?
I have a question about your finger placement, which I have never seen before, you put all three fingers below the anchored arrow. I was taught at indoor range to have one finger on top of the noch and two fingers below. Please tell me how you are doing what you do. Thanks.
That technique is called "3 under" and you can find many youtube videos on how to shoot that way. Kramer, my Shatterproof RD Bones longbow and me are best buddies and ready for whitetail archery season to open. Thank you for a great bow!! God bless.
I have been shooting compound for a few years and want to try traditional archery. This video was the first to pop up and it led me to your bow reviews. I was going to get the Black Hunter but have a question. Can I use one of those stick on arrow rests instead of shooting off the shelf? With the change in arrow position mess up the set up or tunning? Great videos, they are helping out a lot!!!!!
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Arrow tune!
Good video
Hey, did u have looked the Oak Ridge Mystic ???
I went outside everyday and shot my recurve and I think I’m pretty darn good considering I watched only like 2 videos to get me started
What about those that can draw war bows? Like 125 thru 200 lbs. Should i start at a 100lb bow?
Try doing pin spot at 80 yards consistently out door regards Graham Flowers
I use a 30-40bl bow i keep plucking the string when releasing how do it improve?
Just to correct one of your points, If you are planning to hunt go ahead and practice with arrows the same weight you will hunt with, do not use lighter arrows to practice. Changing weight before you hunt means relearning the way the arrows fly. If you want to get good enough to hunt, consistency is key. Isnt that supposed to be the point of the video?
I'm in 10 present, I use a 300 Winchester model 70 never miss keep shooting sticks ?
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All good advice. With practice, can get good enough to only shoot 1 arrow at one bullseye. If you shoot at the same bullseye with multiple arrows, you will start ruining a lot of arrows.
As you're talking about braceheight: how do you find out the perfect braceheight for your bow, when you're a mediocre archer? So far, the "best" results I got was to use the upper end of the recommended setting. But I figure there should be a better method - question just is: can I do it when I'm not an awesome shot?^^
Absolutely you can. For brace height as long as you are in the recommended range for that bow, The main goal is that it would be the same every time you shoot. If the bow feels like it is shooting good to you. Measure it there and keep it there. hope this helps!
I just found a longbow at an estate sale and bought a few light arrows and a straw bale to shoot at. It’s pretty fun, but the string keeps hitting my hand that holds the bow. The bow says 68 but the store only had 69 string. Is that why it’s hitting my left hand?
Si puo tirare tre dita sotto anche se tiller e per mediterraneo tipo longbow?
great video and advice... what is your draw legnth and what was the length, spine of the arrow and the grain of the field point that you were shooting in this video?
Thank you here is the info: 29" draw length 450 Spine 100gn field points 33" arrow
@@kramerammonsarchery thanks for the reply. I have a 38 lb RD Bones and also have a 29 inch draw and ordered 400 spine with 100 gn field point 33" arrow. just wanted to make sure I was in the right ballpark since i can't find the email from Kazden and ordered them off of memory.
I LOVE bowhunting in an almost spiritual way, but after 30 years I've finally accepted I'll never be good enough to hunt without a mechanical release, and I would NEVER stoop to using one. (I have an undiagnosed and weird neurological condition). I was a really good shot when I was 18.
I am more consistent when I slightly bend my knee, bend at the waist and Kant my bow. Shooting instinctively this way is easier for me.
That awesome
Cool video as always mate. Second shot was better though 😂
Fair enough - Thats the way I prefer to shoot!
Write the needed data on the bow to prevent confusion, most people only have one square...
pulls out measuring device. nvm i dont even own a bow.
I find the 2nd shot a bit more better
YEA JAKE KLAMINSKY
Would like proof you can pull back to full draw an 85lbs bow
Here is the thing I am a 12 year old boy who does not have lots of money for a nice string etc. and if you say to buy any of your stuff it’s probably $600 more than anything else! So then tell me what I should do.
I have always been fascinated by archery. Although, I have extremely little knowledge. I would love to find a partner, someone living in my area, who is highly knowledgeable and willing to teach a one eyed jack. Everyone tells me I'm nuts because I only have one eye, and can't do it. Don't tell me I can't, Because I will.
When I'd go to practice,the first shot is the best, as I continue I get worse, so when I go hunting ,the first shot counts.
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In can shoot any arrow without practice
Great video. However most beginners don’t understand a lot of your terms. Beginners don’t understand arrow tuning.
I would say don't be afraid to change something if, after 1000s of arrows, you find it could be better. I'm back into instinctive archery after a 6 year hiatus. I have worked my way up to 40 lb draw, which has been my goal weight for a long time, but i still return to 25 lbs, especially when I'm adjusting my form or equipment. I switched to 3 under from split (as well as from glove to tab) bc those 2 changes alleviated some of my bad habits like pinching the arrow. I also switched to off the shelf bc i don't like the elevated plastic ones plus it'sjust cooler. So, my anchor points are evolving as well and definitely have growing pains as I reprogram my brain. Definitely overdid it yesterday but my groupings are getting better. I am instinctive. I've tried actively aiming, but simply focusing on the target and consistent form has yielded better results.
Try it out hole man out..... oh boy, mom jeans are everywhere
3:47 as a traditional archer, to the eye is dangerous if nuck breaks -- you can go blind
6:03 …. Yeah…. Nah mate. I’m shyte 🤣
i upset some folks about saying if you window peep here ill shoot you with a crossbow, i dont have one yet, but seems an appropriate thing to feel and say if youre trampled on in your home and life.
Plucking isn't bad if you do it in a controlled way. If you try to pluck you will get a feeling for what it does. It not about form it's about feel. When you throw a ball you have nothing to aim with but competent pitchers can throw as accurately as a bullet can be shot from a rifle.
Plucking is definitely bad it's mostly cause by losing tension and not using back tension it can cause all sorts of issues with arrow flight and also for the archer .. every archery will pluck the string or lose tension though I'm no different but if you can engage the back and concentrate on form over the aim and get into a good a anchor point each and everytime it'll make you far more accurate and it's more fun when the arrow's go where you want them even having your mouth open can affect where the arrow will go