Carson is such a good actor. The way Chip goes from nonchalant, to panicked, to rationalizing his actions is incredible and honestly all too real. I was genuinely upset watching Chip talk. Also, the way Tabby says, "You stole from me" made me tear up. She isn't talking about her virginity. She's talking about her security and authority over her body. Nothing has been the same since her assault. Idc what anyone says, Chandler is amazing at portraying her. She translates Tabby's character very well. And of course Bailee was great, nothing new there
@violetrose674 Жыл бұрын
Dude can do good and bad roles. He was cool in I am Frankie
@HenshinHeroesMedia26 күн бұрын
You can tell Imogen was heartbroken. Finding out the guy she really likes hurt her and betrayed her
@lorenbaker479 Жыл бұрын
Well I wouldn’t say really liked I would say someone she was starting to like that way and trust
@samswayzie Жыл бұрын
She was manipulated to like him please
@babz5251 Жыл бұрын
That's crazy I seen that too I was like how you raped one person and then raped the other one and get them pregnant well he better start taking responsibility cuz now is the time 😎💯🤔
@christopherloyd8938 Жыл бұрын
What makes her hurt the fact is that he raped her or the fact that she's pregnant buy him I think by Force so he's not only in trouble by the rape he's in trouble he got a real big responsibility now being a daddy 🤔💯
@christopherloyd2512 Жыл бұрын
@@samswayzie They both trusted him.
@lorenbaker47913 күн бұрын
I love that in this show they did not have to show the assaults to get across how horrible and disgusting what chip did to them was.
@annabannana4695 Жыл бұрын
13 reasons why, take notes!!!
@j28200 Жыл бұрын
@@j28200 LITERALLY
@ihaveanopiniongetoverit7664 Жыл бұрын
The actor who plays Chip really nailed this role. There was always something low-key suspicious about him, but it was a really fine line where you could believe he was innocent, too. His transition from innocent to guilty in this scene is probably the best acting of the entire season, which is saying something because this is a really good show.
@drlee2 Жыл бұрын
Carson Rowland was my childhood he was on this show called I Am Frankie on Nick it was really good
@charlesleeray5863 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesleeray5863 Yep! I recognized him from that show. Other than Bailee Madison and the actress who plays Karen/Kelly (who I recognize from Hereditary), he's the only teen character I knew from something else.
@drlee2 Жыл бұрын
Ikr sum was up
@kiymila9111 Жыл бұрын
The way so many of you sit and pretend you can tell someone is guilty of something makes me hope you have no male friends because you’d be quick to turn on them and ruin their life in an instant over a claim or accusation with no real evidence
@twistedbliss58 Жыл бұрын
@@twistedbliss58 buddy it ain't that serious
@RawrieAddicted3 ай бұрын
"I just wanted to be close to you"........... WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK people really think like that
@caleb1o198 Жыл бұрын
You will honestly be surprised how many people have this exact mindset
@daredevil2382 Жыл бұрын
@@daredevil2382 yep
@kiymila9111 Жыл бұрын
you'd be surprised.... 💀💀💀💀
@billy28061100 Жыл бұрын
@@billy28061100 yep
@kiymila9111 Жыл бұрын
@@daredevil2382 Yeah unfortunately it happens
@JayXDagger Жыл бұрын
The fact that they depicted Chip as such a sweet and caring character made me so pissed off, at him obviously, when this was revealed. That his true colors were so hidden is just unnerving but a good reminder of who people actually are under the surface.
@hannahadams2122 Жыл бұрын
I got real suspicious when he started to care about Imogen and her baby 🌚👀👀
@antheam.4733 Жыл бұрын
Same, just bc he went from liking Tabby to like Imogen which confused me. The thing is Chip didn't seem to have just a little crush on Tabby, it was obvious he liked her a lot, and just for those feelings to disappear and started liking Imogen. At first, I didn't put much thought into it, since something similar happened in Switch at Birth when Emmett went from liking Daphne to Bay, but I didn't found it werid with Emmett but I did found it weird with Chip for some reason. The whole situation with Imogen and her baby was strange to me. Most guys won't take responsibility for a kid. Yes, there are guys who take responsibility for other people's kids but they are usually in long-term relationships with the mother.
@sailorsister211 Жыл бұрын
@@sailorsister211 He didn’t take responsibility for her kid, what are you talking about? My god you’re grasping at straws with this take.
@twistedbliss58 Жыл бұрын
@@twistedbliss58 when I mean take responsibility, I mean go to the adoption agency, say he is the father of the baby, and saying he would help her with the adoption
@sailorsister211 Жыл бұрын
As soon as he said "you didn't want to be with me" my heart sank and my jaw dropped
@zacharyrosemann Жыл бұрын
I suspected last week. When he went with Imogen about her baby being adopted. He gave consent; it was weird. Like he knew he could. Even though he played it off.
@icoleman150 Жыл бұрын
My heart is broken for both of them. This was a double betrayal
@violetrose674 Жыл бұрын
Ladies let this be an important lesson…..if you are ever raped by someone and that person is literally masking their face, or if you were too drunk or high to remember….but you start suspecting your attacker to be one if your male friends….pay attention to how they react to hearing about your assault, because sometimes by talking about it especially the trauma afterwards, it can an make them feel guilty enough to confess. Also, pay attention to how your guy friends act around you in general….if they start getting a bit too cozy and comfortable around you, and start acting a bit too sweet with you, be careful because that’s signs of manipulation, and grooming….and sadly, grooming can happen to grown adults as well.
@tiamarrow6366 Жыл бұрын
I saw a theory about this in instagram and I refused to believe it but then while watching episode 8 I was like “no but it makes sense” and I really didn’t want it to be him but then it was and I am still tryna process. I trusted chip and he let me down man. But Carson (he plays chip) played him so well
@bayleebee1217 Жыл бұрын
This is saddest betrayal ever
@Tvdu_marvel Жыл бұрын
I’m so proud of the girls for standing up for themselves in the show it made me really happy also did anybody not laugh their head off when A chased him out of there kinda like their own personal attack dog
@disableddramaqueen9602 Жыл бұрын
It just adds more ammo to my theory about archie caring about the girls. I guarantee that he isn't actually vengeful or wrathful, he's just a minion for his father. In season 2 we might even see an A redemption arc.
@larrypoppins6273 Жыл бұрын
The acting in these scenes by all three was amazing!
@courtneyallison9494 Жыл бұрын
Episode four pretty much gave it away. When Tabby was going in on Greg about assaulting people and the camera panned to Chip’s look of guilt. I was hoping it was just a red herring, this was still a great reveal though. I wonder how Tabby and Imogen will react to his death next season?
@HP1818 Жыл бұрын
This might sound crazy but I don't think that Chip is dead. We saw Archie open the door with a knife but they never showed Chip getting stabbed.
@brandon_4thave822 Жыл бұрын
Also when Tabby was talking to Imogen about going to the party, when she mentioned Chip in the story I was like its him. And the sudden interest for Imogen threw me off and I found that really odd! And the way Chip is part of a situation Tabby and Imogen feel uncomfortable in was a give away as well. Tabby making a movie which triggered her and then Imogen having an assignment to take care of a baby. Who was there during those two scenarios, Chip!
@eee_baek Жыл бұрын
Archie kills sinners, he doesn't have any reason to spare Chip
@thalesfaria5760 Жыл бұрын
@@thalesfaria5760 Archie punishes bullies
@tanjanique100 Жыл бұрын
@@brandon_4thave822 yea chip couldve dodged it and ran or something
@ruthdagoatt Жыл бұрын
Chip is a “nice guy” so this wasn’t all that surprising, unfortunately.
@simpleplanfan011 Жыл бұрын
Oh he gave me red flags the minute he walked in!
@wiinterflowers42772 ай бұрын
I knew it lol didn’t take much to figure out he assaulted tabby and Imogen but I will say the whole a thing was definitely a twist
@zoahphillips6986 Жыл бұрын
“You stole from me” huuuurrrrrt my soulllllll
@myascott718 Жыл бұрын
shoutout to carson for throughout the season whilst being "sweet" but having something feel off and displaying every stage of this scene, from denying to panicking and defending himself, very difficult to do.
@caseymill459 Жыл бұрын
The way Imogen and Tabby were walking slowly to him, I can tell they were about to like rip his head off
@MJFanmade Жыл бұрын
The new pll is so underappreciated it's unexpectedly goood
@ritatim1732 Жыл бұрын
No it’s not a lot of people like this show
@Walgreens27richmond Жыл бұрын
this scene was so good it was my favorite reveal and second favorite scene of the finale
@JKnight1316 Жыл бұрын
When I tell y’all I didn’t want it to be Chip! I was okay with Wes but Chip! We were rooting for u we were all rooting for you!!
@ahmadseymour9969 Жыл бұрын
I knew it was going to be Wes, or Chip. I figured on Chip after he went with Imogen to the adoption office and said he was the father.
@luvprue1 Жыл бұрын
@@luvprue1 ugghhh I was sooo naive like “aww look at chip being a stand up guy and being sweet”
@ahmadseymour9969 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmadseymour9969 Now that Chip was (assumingly) killed by A watch they make another twist where he was innocent all along, or something like that .
@luvprue1 Жыл бұрын
@@ahmadseymour9969 I really liked Chip, and Imogen. But he slip up and said he was the father was a big clue . I didn't want it to be Chip because he's the only guy that seem normal besides Ash, who was a jock.
@luvprue1 Жыл бұрын
@@luvprue1 Ash wasn’t a jock. That was Sean.
@jashaylamas7148 Жыл бұрын
It was so obvious. I’m not even surprised, I’m just disappointed because I kinda wanted to be wrong😭
@eee_baek Жыл бұрын
same! I wanted it to be Wes because I already hated him.
@annabannana4695 Жыл бұрын
@@annabannana4695 I mean wouldn’t that be more obvious?
@dakingbey Жыл бұрын
@@dakingbey idk I felt like they wanted to make Wes seem like the obvious answer because he was already a creep but it wouldn't have been that simple.
@annabannana4695 Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the best acted scenes of this day and age.
@kennedylehane6562 Жыл бұрын
I knew it was him as soon as he was with Imogen at the carnival
@lauriefaithprescott Жыл бұрын
Gosh the acting especially Bailey but that's no surprise. She's a great actress.
@manal-sb1zk Жыл бұрын
Everyone saying it was obvious but I had no clue it was Chip.
@loveableXessss Жыл бұрын
Exactly there were weird moments with him, like finishing her film when she got triggered and him trying to get close to imogen but , I didn’t suspect him . I thought it was that guy that got punched and killed at that hill Owen partying or that guy who dated the twins
@jaqurriaveals26733 күн бұрын
love seeing bailee on screen again she did great here.
@jyslog Жыл бұрын
I mean I knew it. But like I am sad that it’s Carson’s character. I was so fucking mad
@emilyhofmann5204 Жыл бұрын
Also like it means he is probably going to die the character deserves it but I will miss him
@emilyhofmann5204 Жыл бұрын
Carson's character name is chip i know it haves nothing with this but i am wondering if they took the name chip after sonic
@alanashy35143 ай бұрын
Both of the girls in this scene deserve Oscar’s
@Matthewmistcloud Жыл бұрын
I didn’t want it to be him, but unfortunately the signs were pretty much there. It’s always the one you least expect, if they made it one of the jocks it would’ve been too easy. Even if they decided to do some type of “repeat offense” and have sheriff Beasley be the bad guy (which he still is btw!!!) still.. it would’ve been too easy. Chip was always weirdly calm even in the matters of romantic rejection. Even in the episode when he was helping Imogen go through the process with the adoption agency and how quickly he came to her defense, it almost seem like a sense of obligation…even guilt. Bottom line is…we all have a secret life no one knows about, and the fact that it was imogen and tabby and that BOTH TIMES happened during parties and BOTH girls were intoxicated. It just seemed to suspicious. But that’s just my opinion
@wackyjackie12 Жыл бұрын
They ate this !!
@lvrtt Жыл бұрын
There’s little things that make you think it’s him like just the fact that they focused on chips arm for the cotton swab during the blood drive was my first instinct that it could be him and then how tabby’s mom says that 9/10 rapists are someone you know
@hellobye4984 Жыл бұрын
Ik sum was up but I didn’t know it was him. It’s just like they said usually is 9/10 the person you know, dude was to nice in my opinion, I suspected Shawn but Shawn also has his problem but chip was the first in my list it’s just disgusting
@kiymila9111 Жыл бұрын
Love Tabogen ❤️
@violetslit Жыл бұрын
I was so shooked watching this 💯 this show was so good ! Can’t wait for season 2!
@robertvillanueva8102 Жыл бұрын
Who here knew or guessed it was Chip before the final three eps? I did, because he was always there listening and watching Tabby's reactions, he was at the party, he went from liking Tabby to liking Imogen (like flicking a light switch), also to me he seemed too innocent and I was guessing that one of the guys had to be evil or the killer. I mean I kind of wanted him to be exposed before being executed...or at least have Tabby torture him in the whole hall pass/torture your bully scene.
@emberskelly4524 Жыл бұрын
sad, It was kind of expected, the geek weird guy that loves movies, I wish it was shawn or someone else
@jessicacugula8092 Жыл бұрын
Agreed I’m okay with it being chip but he seemed like the MOST likely “unlikely culprit” so I thought the bigger twist would’ve been if he wasn’t guilty
@moviemonster438 Жыл бұрын
I for sure thought it was going to be Wes who’s an Ezra 2.0. I was disappointed that it was Chip but episode four confirmed it, during the locker room scene
@HP1818 Жыл бұрын
@@moviemonster438 that's the whole point
@kittmeow7192 Жыл бұрын
But then people would have complained that it's the typical jock rapist stereotype. You can't win🤷🏾♀️
@violetrose674 Жыл бұрын
@@kittmeow7192 I know, my point is I was underwhelmed because everyone’s theory has been that it was chip since like episode 4…. I think I would’ve preferred Even if they’d made it so he knew about it and just didn’t say anything would’ve Been equally damning for his character he didn’t have to be the actual culprit could’ve been more shocking like what if it was Archie himself 😵💫
@moviemonster438 Жыл бұрын
The first time I watched the show I had a feeling it would be Chip, and Sidney telling Tabby that it’s almost always someone close to you tipped me off The scenes of Tabby’s PTSD and Imogen despondent at the beach are haunting
@briant174526 күн бұрын
We’ll chip should’ve said, “ Fine. U want answers?!” Tabby & imagine would say, “ I think we’re entitled 2 it.” “ U want answers?!” “ we want the truth!!” “ U can’t handle the truth!!!”
@austinabercrombie17349 ай бұрын
The fact that I found chip as a sweetheart i thought he was adorable and cute and little nerdy! At the same time . But it actually made me sad that he turn out to be the guy who was a friend to tabby . I was actually sad for chip At first I thought it was Tyler behind it ! But I didn’t expect it from chip !!
@krissymconnorsvlog7321 Жыл бұрын
That’s the thing though…..often times the attackers can be the closest people around us like friends or family, and they’ll try to act all innocent until they finally get exposed and can no longer hide.
@tiamarrow6366 Жыл бұрын
Knew it was him, he was too nice & wanted to be around them both too much.
@arisboba Жыл бұрын
It was obvious from the second they said they were r@ped it was him. Chip was to much of a "good guy" and he was clearly obsessed with Tabby. It was the most obvious twist.
@stephwiller9089 Жыл бұрын
Oh my godddd 😭 I’m still shocked and sad cause I loved chip and shipped him and Imogen. I’m glad there’s an 95 chance he’s dead 😏
@jashaylamas7148 Жыл бұрын
I wanted it to be Wes because he gave me the creeps anyways
@bayleebee1217 Жыл бұрын
I still think what Chip told Tabby about Wes wanting to bang her was true.
@brandon_4thave822 Жыл бұрын
Classic red herring.
@kyleroberts1276 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t make it be Wes because they wanna try And make another AriFitz situation with Tabby and Wes which is super weird like that dude is way older than Ezra when him and Aria got involved
@ramelkpop3966 Жыл бұрын
@@ramelkpop3966 Still can't believe they gave the kid to them. Would have taken anyone else. Literally, Spencer/Toby, Hanna/Caleb, Emily/Alison whatever was between them. Even would haven accepted Mona.
@juliancain3872 Жыл бұрын
@@juliancain3872 exactly
@ramelkpop3966 Жыл бұрын
It’s scary how Imogen resembles Ashley benson
@maurice1263 Жыл бұрын
Funny how its allways the person that you least suspect that is the villain of the story and this was proven in the movie scream the nice guy that turns out to be the villain and tabby should have caught that because she is a big horror movie buff
@ambercrosland5602 Жыл бұрын
I always suspect it was chip he was very suspicious in episode 7, and don’t blame tabby :( she didn’t want to think her best friend could actually do something like that to her
@MaddieScenepacks Жыл бұрын
@@MaddieScenepacks your right its not tabby's fault she couldn't remember who attacked her she was drunk and walking home from the bomb party and imjean was at the party that karn was throwing the night Tyler made the video and she was accused of kissing karn's boyfriend and tabby turned Chip down chip went to the beach to be alone and found imjean drunk and he attacked her and got her pregnet and at the bomb firer he saw tabby leave the party and attacked her. But tabby didn't remember that chip was there she didnt want it to be real but it was 💔😢
@ambercrosland5602 Жыл бұрын
I knew that he did it when he was at the fostering place with imogen and he said that he would support her no matter what
@universalau8793 Жыл бұрын
I shipppp tabby and imogennn smmmm ahhh
@khloeweldon315711 ай бұрын
Brooo 😭 I’m sorry but this scene beats Spencer almost dying by Ian like when I watched this I was flabbergasted
@queenshay29567 күн бұрын
WTFFF CHIP
@DeletedOnez Жыл бұрын
I really didn't like how Tabby instantly accused Chip. Yeah, she's was right, bit she start to think it was him just because it wasn't a football player and because her mother said "A lot of times its someone that you already know". Wow, and that's all for accusing your best friend of rape?
@danielatortora3335 Жыл бұрын
it was a fake call so he would either admit it cause he knew about the DNA thing or truly deny it
@Mandy-bv5tn8 ай бұрын
Why did I think they were going to kill him! I would’ve liked it cuz then they would’ve had a secret fr
@shaebubblegum3212 Жыл бұрын
🅰️didn't know it was CHIP, but why was he there? Also, when CHIP turned around 🅰️could have stabbed him then and there but when CHIP ran away 🅰️was just standing there waiting for a signal to kill and then TABBY and IMOGEN told him that CHIP’s the one that did it then that made him ran after CHIP.
@airwaves7 Жыл бұрын
A was essentially raised like an animal, so maybe he only went after Chip because the girls told him what he did and it reminded him of what happened to his sister? That's just my take on it.
@T-Rus Жыл бұрын
I don't think A has a moral code of any sort. I think he's just use to taking orders. So when Imogen, and Tabby told him to go after Chip he did as he is told.
@luvprue1 Жыл бұрын
@@T-Rus that and Angela was also raped so that might have triggered A
@daredevil2382 Жыл бұрын
@@luvprue1 to a certain extent I think he does have somewhat of a moral code or to a degree the girls told A at serval points to leave them alone and he never listened I believe A also gose after people that are specifically similar to the ones that hurt Angela
@daredevil2382 Жыл бұрын
@@daredevil2382 agreed. Not gonna lie, I felt happy when the sheriff and chip got what they deserved.
@T-Rus Жыл бұрын
So I have never seen the original Pretty Little Liars, but I understand there was a character named Aria. Imogen is giving her daughter to someone in Rosewood named Aria. Do we think it will be the same person? Granted I am not sure what happened to Aria in the original.
@phillipzavala7920 Жыл бұрын
yeah in original sin Imogen said that she's giving her baby to aria and ezra (ezra was the guy aria ended up with in pretty little liars) and it was revealed that aria can't have kids because of medical issues
@silva-hg3rt Жыл бұрын
P.S, if I ever get assaulted by someone, I’ll still be the suspicious girl who’s suspicious of everything she’s heard of.
@emmawebsdale6363 Жыл бұрын
It's always the simp
@PlanetCookie3 Жыл бұрын
I hate that they made his character evil. I was hoping to a have one decent guy on the show😩
@Gina-et4td Жыл бұрын
Henry and Shawn and some of the dads like Faran’s are good guys (flawed yes but still good)so far and they better not change that 😭
@cheesecakehoe5920 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesecakehoe5920 Ash too
@charlesleeray5863 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesecakehoe5920 don’t forget ash and even Wes even tho his good is given off weirdly
@jashaylamas7148 Жыл бұрын
They killed off one of the only decent actors in this show. Then again, the show is likely to go downhill in future seasons so maybe it’s best if he gets out now.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 Жыл бұрын
This show was giving me slight riverdale vibes when I first watched it. Then when I was looking at its Wikipedia page I see that the creator of riverdale is also the co- creator for this show 😭
@hazelm3002 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was greg
@exo.89569 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is it that Archie may actually care about the girls a little bit in his own twisted way despite being an attack dog for his father.
@Mcherri Жыл бұрын
I was really really hoping it’s wasn’t chip but deep down I know😢
@khanyeallen5931 Жыл бұрын
I always suspected it was him… he was just too perfect… i knew something was up with him so i wasn’t surprised at all when it was revealed to be him
@MaddieScenepacks Жыл бұрын
@@MaddieScenepacks me either I was like yeah it was chip cause when they found those movie I was a 100% yeah it was chip
@khanyeallen5931 Жыл бұрын
What kind of a name is Chip? It reminds me of Brick from Insatiable... terrible name unless it is a Disney character but he has definitely tainted the name now. Chose a good actor for it... he looks completely innocent/non-creepy.
@dreamsteddybearsmaster Жыл бұрын
Chip a disney character?!! sega is gonna sue over disney for using the name without sega's permission
@alanashy35146 ай бұрын
Everytime i hear the name chip i think of sonic
@alanashy35146 ай бұрын
He's stupid to admit what he did. They only had proof for Imogen...not Tabbys. Has he not watched an episode of SVU???
@kynnwinwin5650 Жыл бұрын
They were stupid to go and get a confession without taping it.
@DavidKen878 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidKen878 It wouldn't have been admissable in court. Neither is the DNA from the blood drive but that didn't matter because Imogen was literally carrying proof. And there's also no evidence to say that they weren't. So curb your assumptions
@violetrose674 Жыл бұрын
@@violetrose674 1.) If they were taping it, they would have shown it. That's what they always do in tv shows. 2.) When they told Feran's mom they wanted to sue and she said it wouldn't be easy, they would've said right then and there they had a taped confession. 3.) Her being pregnant isn't proof of anything. The police can't force someone to take a paternity test. I'll curb my "assumptions" when you use common sense.
@DavidKen878 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call chip stupid more guilt ridden even if they were only going to take Imogen side because she had proof chip is still screwed
@daredevil2382 Жыл бұрын
No one our under 25 usually watches SVU... I often feel left out that I love it, so yeah makes sense with him I guess.
@dreamsteddybearsmaster Жыл бұрын
I thought this scene was pretty cool. It's like A was helping them but we sll know he wasn't
@tylerjcalvin14 күн бұрын
The way the series handles relationships is sooo low quality. How Imogen and Chip were somehow envolved romantically is beyond me. It's the same for ALL the other relationships in the show: no chemistry, no history, no romance no nothing. It's just so plain and it feels like they were obligated to invent a partner for all the main characters and chose the most uninspired and plain ones. I mean just look at Kelly. How tf is she with Greg. Her dead sister was with him and suddenly, after her death, Kelly is with him? That sounds so sick and sociopathic, but no one seems to even question it. This show is 10% horror and 90% about characters and relationships. If they are this poor in the latter compartment, i dont think this show will grow any larger than the original PLL fans. (i bet that next season they will bring a "new guy in school" to couple him up with Imogen and Tabby will most likely continue her boring and illegal affair with Wes)
@drsaltzman5924 Жыл бұрын
I think a problem with the poorly developed narrative is that because of streaming, many shows produced only have 8-10 episodes max. And because of streaming, more shows are released on a constant basis compared to cable tv, meaning that there is a less likely chance that shows will get renewed. So the writers were probably told to cram in as much ad they could. 22 episode shows need to be brought back 😭
@hazelm3002 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t really seem like chip doesn’t even realize what happened for a second I’m not justifying what he did it just seems like he was trying to take advantage of drunk girl to feel satisfied for his sexual frustration I know it’s wrong it always tend to happen when you drink your inhibitions lower when you drink it all really fault of the alcohol that push those felling out to
@justyouraveragegeek548 Жыл бұрын
You can’t excuse r*pe in any way. And besides chip has a stash of horror films depicting violent r*pe scenes stashed in his closet. So he probably had r*pe fantasies even when sober
@hazelm3002 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I’ve been drunk lots and I don’t rape anyone. When you do something like that it doesn’t matter what your feelings were. You can’t do something like this to another person.
@shirin9452 Жыл бұрын
girls drink all the time and do not rape people why with men there's this build in excuse
Carson is such a good actor. The way Chip goes from nonchalant, to panicked, to rationalizing his actions is incredible and honestly all too real. I was genuinely upset watching Chip talk. Also, the way Tabby says, "You stole from me" made me tear up. She isn't talking about her virginity. She's talking about her security and authority over her body. Nothing has been the same since her assault. Idc what anyone says, Chandler is amazing at portraying her. She translates Tabby's character very well. And of course Bailee was great, nothing new there
Dude can do good and bad roles. He was cool in I am Frankie
You can tell Imogen was heartbroken. Finding out the guy she really likes hurt her and betrayed her
Well I wouldn’t say really liked I would say someone she was starting to like that way and trust
She was manipulated to like him please
That's crazy I seen that too I was like how you raped one person and then raped the other one and get them pregnant well he better start taking responsibility cuz now is the time 😎💯🤔
What makes her hurt the fact is that he raped her or the fact that she's pregnant buy him I think by Force so he's not only in trouble by the rape he's in trouble he got a real big responsibility now being a daddy 🤔💯
@@samswayzie They both trusted him.
I love that in this show they did not have to show the assaults to get across how horrible and disgusting what chip did to them was.
13 reasons why, take notes!!!
@@j28200 LITERALLY
The actor who plays Chip really nailed this role. There was always something low-key suspicious about him, but it was a really fine line where you could believe he was innocent, too. His transition from innocent to guilty in this scene is probably the best acting of the entire season, which is saying something because this is a really good show.
Carson Rowland was my childhood he was on this show called I Am Frankie on Nick it was really good
@@charlesleeray5863 Yep! I recognized him from that show. Other than Bailee Madison and the actress who plays Karen/Kelly (who I recognize from Hereditary), he's the only teen character I knew from something else.
Ikr sum was up
The way so many of you sit and pretend you can tell someone is guilty of something makes me hope you have no male friends because you’d be quick to turn on them and ruin their life in an instant over a claim or accusation with no real evidence
@@twistedbliss58 buddy it ain't that serious
"I just wanted to be close to you"........... WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK people really think like that
You will honestly be surprised how many people have this exact mindset
@@daredevil2382 yep
you'd be surprised.... 💀💀💀💀
@@billy28061100 yep
@@daredevil2382 Yeah unfortunately it happens
The fact that they depicted Chip as such a sweet and caring character made me so pissed off, at him obviously, when this was revealed. That his true colors were so hidden is just unnerving but a good reminder of who people actually are under the surface.
I got real suspicious when he started to care about Imogen and her baby 🌚👀👀
Same, just bc he went from liking Tabby to like Imogen which confused me. The thing is Chip didn't seem to have just a little crush on Tabby, it was obvious he liked her a lot, and just for those feelings to disappear and started liking Imogen. At first, I didn't put much thought into it, since something similar happened in Switch at Birth when Emmett went from liking Daphne to Bay, but I didn't found it werid with Emmett but I did found it weird with Chip for some reason. The whole situation with Imogen and her baby was strange to me. Most guys won't take responsibility for a kid. Yes, there are guys who take responsibility for other people's kids but they are usually in long-term relationships with the mother.
@@sailorsister211 He didn’t take responsibility for her kid, what are you talking about? My god you’re grasping at straws with this take.
@@twistedbliss58 when I mean take responsibility, I mean go to the adoption agency, say he is the father of the baby, and saying he would help her with the adoption
As soon as he said "you didn't want to be with me" my heart sank and my jaw dropped
I suspected last week. When he went with Imogen about her baby being adopted. He gave consent; it was weird. Like he knew he could. Even though he played it off.
My heart is broken for both of them. This was a double betrayal
Ladies let this be an important lesson…..if you are ever raped by someone and that person is literally masking their face, or if you were too drunk or high to remember….but you start suspecting your attacker to be one if your male friends….pay attention to how they react to hearing about your assault, because sometimes by talking about it especially the trauma afterwards, it can an make them feel guilty enough to confess. Also, pay attention to how your guy friends act around you in general….if they start getting a bit too cozy and comfortable around you, and start acting a bit too sweet with you, be careful because that’s signs of manipulation, and grooming….and sadly, grooming can happen to grown adults as well.
I saw a theory about this in instagram and I refused to believe it but then while watching episode 8 I was like “no but it makes sense” and I really didn’t want it to be him but then it was and I am still tryna process. I trusted chip and he let me down man. But Carson (he plays chip) played him so well
This is saddest betrayal ever
I’m so proud of the girls for standing up for themselves in the show it made me really happy also did anybody not laugh their head off when A chased him out of there kinda like their own personal attack dog
It just adds more ammo to my theory about archie caring about the girls. I guarantee that he isn't actually vengeful or wrathful, he's just a minion for his father. In season 2 we might even see an A redemption arc.
The acting in these scenes by all three was amazing!
Episode four pretty much gave it away. When Tabby was going in on Greg about assaulting people and the camera panned to Chip’s look of guilt. I was hoping it was just a red herring, this was still a great reveal though. I wonder how Tabby and Imogen will react to his death next season?
This might sound crazy but I don't think that Chip is dead. We saw Archie open the door with a knife but they never showed Chip getting stabbed.
Also when Tabby was talking to Imogen about going to the party, when she mentioned Chip in the story I was like its him. And the sudden interest for Imogen threw me off and I found that really odd! And the way Chip is part of a situation Tabby and Imogen feel uncomfortable in was a give away as well. Tabby making a movie which triggered her and then Imogen having an assignment to take care of a baby. Who was there during those two scenarios, Chip!
Archie kills sinners, he doesn't have any reason to spare Chip
@@thalesfaria5760 Archie punishes bullies
@@brandon_4thave822 yea chip couldve dodged it and ran or something
Chip is a “nice guy” so this wasn’t all that surprising, unfortunately.
Oh he gave me red flags the minute he walked in!
I knew it lol didn’t take much to figure out he assaulted tabby and Imogen but I will say the whole a thing was definitely a twist
“You stole from me” huuuurrrrrt my soulllllll
shoutout to carson for throughout the season whilst being "sweet" but having something feel off and displaying every stage of this scene, from denying to panicking and defending himself, very difficult to do.
The way Imogen and Tabby were walking slowly to him, I can tell they were about to like rip his head off
The new pll is so underappreciated it's unexpectedly goood
No it’s not a lot of people like this show
this scene was so good it was my favorite reveal and second favorite scene of the finale
When I tell y’all I didn’t want it to be Chip! I was okay with Wes but Chip! We were rooting for u we were all rooting for you!!
I knew it was going to be Wes, or Chip. I figured on Chip after he went with Imogen to the adoption office and said he was the father.
@@luvprue1 ugghhh I was sooo naive like “aww look at chip being a stand up guy and being sweet”
@@ahmadseymour9969 Now that Chip was (assumingly) killed by A watch they make another twist where he was innocent all along, or something like that .
@@ahmadseymour9969 I really liked Chip, and Imogen. But he slip up and said he was the father was a big clue . I didn't want it to be Chip because he's the only guy that seem normal besides Ash, who was a jock.
@@luvprue1 Ash wasn’t a jock. That was Sean.
It was so obvious. I’m not even surprised, I’m just disappointed because I kinda wanted to be wrong😭
same! I wanted it to be Wes because I already hated him.
@@annabannana4695 I mean wouldn’t that be more obvious?
@@dakingbey idk I felt like they wanted to make Wes seem like the obvious answer because he was already a creep but it wouldn't have been that simple.
This has to be one of the best acted scenes of this day and age.
I knew it was him as soon as he was with Imogen at the carnival
Gosh the acting especially Bailey but that's no surprise. She's a great actress.
Everyone saying it was obvious but I had no clue it was Chip.
Exactly there were weird moments with him, like finishing her film when she got triggered and him trying to get close to imogen but , I didn’t suspect him . I thought it was that guy that got punched and killed at that hill Owen partying or that guy who dated the twins
love seeing bailee on screen again she did great here.
I mean I knew it. But like I am sad that it’s Carson’s character. I was so fucking mad
Also like it means he is probably going to die the character deserves it but I will miss him
Carson's character name is chip i know it haves nothing with this but i am wondering if they took the name chip after sonic
Both of the girls in this scene deserve Oscar’s
I didn’t want it to be him, but unfortunately the signs were pretty much there. It’s always the one you least expect, if they made it one of the jocks it would’ve been too easy. Even if they decided to do some type of “repeat offense” and have sheriff Beasley be the bad guy (which he still is btw!!!) still.. it would’ve been too easy. Chip was always weirdly calm even in the matters of romantic rejection. Even in the episode when he was helping Imogen go through the process with the adoption agency and how quickly he came to her defense, it almost seem like a sense of obligation…even guilt. Bottom line is…we all have a secret life no one knows about, and the fact that it was imogen and tabby and that BOTH TIMES happened during parties and BOTH girls were intoxicated. It just seemed to suspicious. But that’s just my opinion
They ate this !!
There’s little things that make you think it’s him like just the fact that they focused on chips arm for the cotton swab during the blood drive was my first instinct that it could be him and then how tabby’s mom says that 9/10 rapists are someone you know
Ik sum was up but I didn’t know it was him. It’s just like they said usually is 9/10 the person you know, dude was to nice in my opinion, I suspected Shawn but Shawn also has his problem but chip was the first in my list it’s just disgusting
Love Tabogen ❤️
I was so shooked watching this 💯 this show was so good ! Can’t wait for season 2!
Who here knew or guessed it was Chip before the final three eps? I did, because he was always there listening and watching Tabby's reactions, he was at the party, he went from liking Tabby to liking Imogen (like flicking a light switch), also to me he seemed too innocent and I was guessing that one of the guys had to be evil or the killer. I mean I kind of wanted him to be exposed before being executed...or at least have Tabby torture him in the whole hall pass/torture your bully scene.
sad, It was kind of expected, the geek weird guy that loves movies, I wish it was shawn or someone else
Agreed I’m okay with it being chip but he seemed like the MOST likely “unlikely culprit” so I thought the bigger twist would’ve been if he wasn’t guilty
I for sure thought it was going to be Wes who’s an Ezra 2.0. I was disappointed that it was Chip but episode four confirmed it, during the locker room scene
@@moviemonster438 that's the whole point
But then people would have complained that it's the typical jock rapist stereotype. You can't win🤷🏾♀️
@@kittmeow7192 I know, my point is I was underwhelmed because everyone’s theory has been that it was chip since like episode 4…. I think I would’ve preferred Even if they’d made it so he knew about it and just didn’t say anything would’ve Been equally damning for his character he didn’t have to be the actual culprit could’ve been more shocking like what if it was Archie himself 😵💫
The first time I watched the show I had a feeling it would be Chip, and Sidney telling Tabby that it’s almost always someone close to you tipped me off The scenes of Tabby’s PTSD and Imogen despondent at the beach are haunting
We’ll chip should’ve said, “ Fine. U want answers?!” Tabby & imagine would say, “ I think we’re entitled 2 it.” “ U want answers?!” “ we want the truth!!” “ U can’t handle the truth!!!”
The fact that I found chip as a sweetheart i thought he was adorable and cute and little nerdy! At the same time . But it actually made me sad that he turn out to be the guy who was a friend to tabby . I was actually sad for chip At first I thought it was Tyler behind it ! But I didn’t expect it from chip !!
That’s the thing though…..often times the attackers can be the closest people around us like friends or family, and they’ll try to act all innocent until they finally get exposed and can no longer hide.
Knew it was him, he was too nice & wanted to be around them both too much.
It was obvious from the second they said they were r@ped it was him. Chip was to much of a "good guy" and he was clearly obsessed with Tabby. It was the most obvious twist.
Oh my godddd 😭 I’m still shocked and sad cause I loved chip and shipped him and Imogen. I’m glad there’s an 95 chance he’s dead 😏
I wanted it to be Wes because he gave me the creeps anyways
I still think what Chip told Tabby about Wes wanting to bang her was true.
Classic red herring.
They didn’t make it be Wes because they wanna try And make another AriFitz situation with Tabby and Wes which is super weird like that dude is way older than Ezra when him and Aria got involved
@@ramelkpop3966 Still can't believe they gave the kid to them. Would have taken anyone else. Literally, Spencer/Toby, Hanna/Caleb, Emily/Alison whatever was between them. Even would haven accepted Mona.
@@juliancain3872 exactly
It’s scary how Imogen resembles Ashley benson
Funny how its allways the person that you least suspect that is the villain of the story and this was proven in the movie scream the nice guy that turns out to be the villain and tabby should have caught that because she is a big horror movie buff
I always suspect it was chip he was very suspicious in episode 7, and don’t blame tabby :( she didn’t want to think her best friend could actually do something like that to her
@@MaddieScenepacks your right its not tabby's fault she couldn't remember who attacked her she was drunk and walking home from the bomb party and imjean was at the party that karn was throwing the night Tyler made the video and she was accused of kissing karn's boyfriend and tabby turned Chip down chip went to the beach to be alone and found imjean drunk and he attacked her and got her pregnet and at the bomb firer he saw tabby leave the party and attacked her. But tabby didn't remember that chip was there she didnt want it to be real but it was 💔😢
I knew that he did it when he was at the fostering place with imogen and he said that he would support her no matter what
I shipppp tabby and imogennn smmmm ahhh
Brooo 😭 I’m sorry but this scene beats Spencer almost dying by Ian like when I watched this I was flabbergasted
WTFFF CHIP
I really didn't like how Tabby instantly accused Chip. Yeah, she's was right, bit she start to think it was him just because it wasn't a football player and because her mother said "A lot of times its someone that you already know". Wow, and that's all for accusing your best friend of rape?
it was a fake call so he would either admit it cause he knew about the DNA thing or truly deny it
Why did I think they were going to kill him! I would’ve liked it cuz then they would’ve had a secret fr
🅰️didn't know it was CHIP, but why was he there? Also, when CHIP turned around 🅰️could have stabbed him then and there but when CHIP ran away 🅰️was just standing there waiting for a signal to kill and then TABBY and IMOGEN told him that CHIP’s the one that did it then that made him ran after CHIP.
A was essentially raised like an animal, so maybe he only went after Chip because the girls told him what he did and it reminded him of what happened to his sister? That's just my take on it.
I don't think A has a moral code of any sort. I think he's just use to taking orders. So when Imogen, and Tabby told him to go after Chip he did as he is told.
@@T-Rus that and Angela was also raped so that might have triggered A
@@luvprue1 to a certain extent I think he does have somewhat of a moral code or to a degree the girls told A at serval points to leave them alone and he never listened I believe A also gose after people that are specifically similar to the ones that hurt Angela
@@daredevil2382 agreed. Not gonna lie, I felt happy when the sheriff and chip got what they deserved.
So I have never seen the original Pretty Little Liars, but I understand there was a character named Aria. Imogen is giving her daughter to someone in Rosewood named Aria. Do we think it will be the same person? Granted I am not sure what happened to Aria in the original.
yeah in original sin Imogen said that she's giving her baby to aria and ezra (ezra was the guy aria ended up with in pretty little liars) and it was revealed that aria can't have kids because of medical issues
P.S, if I ever get assaulted by someone, I’ll still be the suspicious girl who’s suspicious of everything she’s heard of.
It's always the simp
I hate that they made his character evil. I was hoping to a have one decent guy on the show😩
Henry and Shawn and some of the dads like Faran’s are good guys (flawed yes but still good)so far and they better not change that 😭
@@cheesecakehoe5920 Ash too
@@cheesecakehoe5920 don’t forget ash and even Wes even tho his good is given off weirdly
They killed off one of the only decent actors in this show. Then again, the show is likely to go downhill in future seasons so maybe it’s best if he gets out now.
This show was giving me slight riverdale vibes when I first watched it. Then when I was looking at its Wikipedia page I see that the creator of riverdale is also the co- creator for this show 😭
I always thought it was greg
Is it just me or is it that Archie may actually care about the girls a little bit in his own twisted way despite being an attack dog for his father.
I was really really hoping it’s wasn’t chip but deep down I know😢
I always suspected it was him… he was just too perfect… i knew something was up with him so i wasn’t surprised at all when it was revealed to be him
@@MaddieScenepacks me either I was like yeah it was chip cause when they found those movie I was a 100% yeah it was chip
What kind of a name is Chip? It reminds me of Brick from Insatiable... terrible name unless it is a Disney character but he has definitely tainted the name now. Chose a good actor for it... he looks completely innocent/non-creepy.
Chip a disney character?!! sega is gonna sue over disney for using the name without sega's permission
Everytime i hear the name chip i think of sonic
He's stupid to admit what he did. They only had proof for Imogen...not Tabbys. Has he not watched an episode of SVU???
They were stupid to go and get a confession without taping it.
@@DavidKen878 It wouldn't have been admissable in court. Neither is the DNA from the blood drive but that didn't matter because Imogen was literally carrying proof. And there's also no evidence to say that they weren't. So curb your assumptions
@@violetrose674 1.) If they were taping it, they would have shown it. That's what they always do in tv shows. 2.) When they told Feran's mom they wanted to sue and she said it wouldn't be easy, they would've said right then and there they had a taped confession. 3.) Her being pregnant isn't proof of anything. The police can't force someone to take a paternity test. I'll curb my "assumptions" when you use common sense.
I wouldn't call chip stupid more guilt ridden even if they were only going to take Imogen side because she had proof chip is still screwed
No one our under 25 usually watches SVU... I often feel left out that I love it, so yeah makes sense with him I guess.
I thought this scene was pretty cool. It's like A was helping them but we sll know he wasn't
The way the series handles relationships is sooo low quality. How Imogen and Chip were somehow envolved romantically is beyond me. It's the same for ALL the other relationships in the show: no chemistry, no history, no romance no nothing. It's just so plain and it feels like they were obligated to invent a partner for all the main characters and chose the most uninspired and plain ones. I mean just look at Kelly. How tf is she with Greg. Her dead sister was with him and suddenly, after her death, Kelly is with him? That sounds so sick and sociopathic, but no one seems to even question it. This show is 10% horror and 90% about characters and relationships. If they are this poor in the latter compartment, i dont think this show will grow any larger than the original PLL fans. (i bet that next season they will bring a "new guy in school" to couple him up with Imogen and Tabby will most likely continue her boring and illegal affair with Wes)
I think a problem with the poorly developed narrative is that because of streaming, many shows produced only have 8-10 episodes max. And because of streaming, more shows are released on a constant basis compared to cable tv, meaning that there is a less likely chance that shows will get renewed. So the writers were probably told to cram in as much ad they could. 22 episode shows need to be brought back 😭
It doesn’t really seem like chip doesn’t even realize what happened for a second I’m not justifying what he did it just seems like he was trying to take advantage of drunk girl to feel satisfied for his sexual frustration I know it’s wrong it always tend to happen when you drink your inhibitions lower when you drink it all really fault of the alcohol that push those felling out to
You can’t excuse r*pe in any way. And besides chip has a stash of horror films depicting violent r*pe scenes stashed in his closet. So he probably had r*pe fantasies even when sober
Yeah but I’ve been drunk lots and I don’t rape anyone. When you do something like that it doesn’t matter what your feelings were. You can’t do something like this to another person.
girls drink all the time and do not rape people why with men there's this build in excuse
I did not like it, felt so fake