The Glorious V10 TDI Is A Nightmare
The era of Ferdinand Piech, the grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, is an unforgettable time for Volkswagen. Without a doubt, it was the best thing it could happen for the brand at the time as Piech really showed the world what VW is capable of. Not only Germans brought their first attempts in the luxury segment, they really stepped up the game with the insane engine lineup, especially pushing the boundaries of conventional gasoline and diesel units.
00:00 Intro
00:40 Piech’s influence
02:00 A need for a big engine
02:49 Core design
03:42 Engine balancing
04:33 Accessories packaging
05:58 What makes it special
06:33 Power and potential
07:38 Perfect application
08:12 Final words
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My sister had a Pheaton V10 TDI for several years. Was actually pretty reliable. One day the 2nd bank just stopped working. So she sold it for parts after several tries of resurrection. The day the tow truck came it just decided to run on all 10 again.
the problem probably is the injector harness
It has two Ecu's, one for each bank
@@jesuselmesias395 exactly, I doubt they took it in the see though. You would have found that fault very quickly.
Complexity is the enemy of reliability.
ameen
Exactly, replacing a starter usually meant having to remove the entire front end and a lot of swearing.
@@aymaneoubad5057 complexity can be measured in swearwords per minute
low quality combined with bad design
@@itsdokko2990 This is true. And I know this from experience
My family used to have one of these in the states, it was a nightmare as he says, but it was such a strong motor. We had an 18 ton bus run out of fuel on 12% grade, the toureg pulled it up the hill no problem.
Ha! That’s fantastic.
Look at the strength
After seeing it pull a bloody plane i fully believe that
Why didn't you simply go and get some fuel for the bus?
@@rogeronslow1498 getting some fuel would still take time, getting the bus off the road helps prevent traffic jam. So tow the bus out of the way, then get some fuel.
Beast of a Powerplant. Replaced the gaskets on a pair of leaking turbo chargers on one once. Took it out and could tell the owners never hit the kick down switch. I thought I was wot getting on the freeway and it was slow. Super slow. At first I thought I did something wrong or that the rumors I was told about it were false. No. Just a super stiff, never hit kickdown switch. The pedal suddenly went down another inch with more pressure and the trans dropped two gears. My butt was then wedged in the crease at the bottom of the seat back and I teleported down the freeway. It was quite the surprise lol. The rumors were true. She was a beast.
Thank you for doing a video on this. I worked on one of these back when I was working on VWs, and in order to replace the A/C compressor, I had to drop the subframe. In order to replace the vacuum pump on the back of the cylinder head, I had to drop THE ENGINE/TRANS ASSEMBLY. . . . But when you get on a highway on-ramp and hit the throttle? CHOO CHOO CHABOOGIE!!!
I love the design of the V10, and the engineering that went into it. That being said, I'm quitting my job the second one of those rolls through the door
Oh comm on a filter and oil change should be OK (and maby as a swap engine with lots of space around it) but yeha I fell you dropping the supframe/drive train for almost anything is a real no go
i wrench on one myself in a parking lot with no power tools. you sound like a bad mechanic. i'm guessing book learnt.
@@meanyheadmoto want a cookie?
The only part of the design I don't really like is the fact that it doesn't have cylinder liners. I LOVE the V10 TDI though, I seriously wish we got more in the states than in the Reg.
You missed cam and bucket wear, toggling / failing, wired in series PD injectors, warping/cracking exhaust manifolds, crazy spragg clutches and water/steering pump failures allowing oil and water to mix. Oh yeah and having to drop the entire engine and subframe to do anything major like turbo's....I have the god damn R5 in a Transporter and it's a nightmare enough....as cool as 1000NM is, no way I want double that trouble!
That technology was used in many Porsche's [944's and 928's] and these engines routinely go over 300,000 miles with no or little oil consumption.
@@gregroles5638 True for first not revised motors (pre 2006).
@Retired Bore And the 247 hp 2.5 liter engine in the 951? The same basic technology at 100 hp per liter. What you don't seem to understand is that cylinder pressure has little effect on surface coating. This technology, properly applied, works the life of the car.
@Retired Bore Apparently you did since the alusil coating on the M28 and M44 engines easily lasts 300,000 miles with proper oil changes. So you worked in engine R&D; How convenient. I imagine you worked on the all-aluminum four cylinder that debuted in the Chevy Vega....
When I worked for a VW dealership we had a customer buy one from one of the sleazy buy here pay here lots and got "suckered" into their warranty. It was still on the temporary registration when it came in to diagnose a noise. It ended up needing over $12k in work (turbos and a bunch of other problems) but between us and the customer we held their warranty company to it and they got their car fixed up to tip-top shape. I was shocked that you couldn't even buy the valve cover gasket separately, you have to buy the entire valve cover (even back then it was $500 or so per side) and you had to get them straight from Germany. I loved how it was finally the customer getting the better end of those shady used car lots!
They do this here in Germany, too. You have to buy the whole thing. There should be laws against that. But its not only German manufacturers that do this. On my Abarth 124 Spider they wont sell me a spring for the exhaust valve. They say that I have to replace my whole exhaust system. 2,500 EUR - if they have one in stock. 😅 I said I better drive with the exhaust valve open and risk a fine at this price point. 🙃🙂
I used to own an 04 V10 - you showed it at 6:49!. They are quite the truck. Mashing the go pedal, the front of the truck rises up and the rear squats, and suddenly you're going over 100 mph. By 160,000 miles it had developed flat camshafts, like most VW PD TDI engines... and the cam job on a V10 is an engine out affair. I sold the truck to a mechanic friend, who fixed it and is still driving it today! After doing work on the V10 Touareg, you can tell the engine compartment was designed around the engine itself. Everything just fits. In the Touareg, there are 4 oil pumps. 2 are scavenge pumps: it's built like a dry sump system, but all contained under the engine. This way hard driving or extreme angles don't starve the engine of oil pressure. The water cooled alternator has a 2 speed transmission too, so that it's always spinning fast enough to make lots of amps. There are 2 coolant loops... one for the engine and heat, another for the alternator and fuel cooler. Fun fact: the 04 V10 TDI has *15* fuel pumps. Two in the fuel tank, one on each cylinder bank, one on each cylinder, and the #15 is the pump for the diesel fired Webasto boiler for the climate control.
That's honestly such an insane level of complexity that it's almost impressive. It's a shame it didn't fair well in the long term
@@ownedpatrol Once you wrap your head around how complex the V10 Touareg is, and all the care that wend into designing it, you really get a better appreciation for the truck. Oh, and one reason VW might have "sandbagged" the output on these... when you tune them for more torque (quite easy) it's not uncommon to bend driveshafts...
This really was a golden age for the VW group. During this time they were manufacturing 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10 and 12 cylinder diesel engines.
There is no 12 cyl Diesel from vw
@@dave3784you could say the V12 TDI from Audi is a VW engine
dude this is your most detailed vid yet, and insanely well done, keep growing man! idk why I was unsubbed but I'm back in baby
In the past I was the owner of touareg with v10. I would rather replace the term limited space under the hood with its lack. Despite numerous repairs that I have made on it, I still think it is a great car for weekend trips. As for fuel consumption, it oscillated around 19l / 100km with an economical city drive, and around 9-10l on the highway. Nevertheless, I recommend this car to a person who will have his own workshop and will be able to repair it himself, because the repair costs are huge due to the need to remove the drive unit in case of every major defect. For example, regeneration of the alternator is the cost of a part without labor is about $ 400 in Poland :)
Tak ludzie mówią na niego, a sam posiadam od 9-ciu lat i odpukać, mało co się psuło
Get a Landcruiser Amazon 4.2tdi. U will be blown away.
@@onkarfreshie3127 bro stop spamming every comment
@@erni5263 Bardziej miałem na myśli to że jak się coś zepsuje to koszty naprawy są dość duże natomiast co do niezawodność jak się kupi go w dobrym stanie to faktycznie cieszy jazda 😁 Ja swojego kupiłem z urwanym tłokiem na 10 cylindrze więc przy okazji przekładki drugiego słupka zrobiłem wszystko co trzeba 😁
@@onkarfreshie3127 it's not even close to the same vehicle. Just because it's a luxury SUV with a diesel engine built to go off road doesn't put it in the same market as the touareg. The touareg literally rides like a Cayenne. You said you owned a Q7. Imagine your Q7 being more capable off road than a modern grand cherokee. That's the touareg. You're driving a luxury truck around and telling people to buy it instead of a touareg because you're so proud of its reliability and hate the germans.
Awesome video and thanks for the tag. -Although they seem complex they are quite simple engines when you start working on them. Although some repairs need the engine out VW really made the removal process quite simple, even easier with a hoist/lift. -As far as consumption I find them quite reasonable for the weight/engine, this past weekend I averaged 9.5L/100km with cruise at 135km/h. Towing my tall enclosed trailer averages around 15L/100km, beats driving my truck and even has a smoother ride.
I love early 2000s VW they always were trying to push the boundries of what was possible sadly some concepts didnt work out that way
as a german diesel enthusiast i really really wanted one of these. i didn't buy one because i knew i could never afford to repair it.
Even when you could afford it, after running out of guarantee you probably wouldn't anymore..
and thus is the reason i bought one for $3600 and wrench on it myself, because of rumors and misinformation about how "difficult" it is to repair. all these videos are just people repeating the same old crap they hear, and none of them actually wrench on it themselves. I do.
I didnt get why people bought these engines. They are not running nice compared to a V10 petrol engine. Diesel was once subsidised by the German government (well, at least the taxes werent as high as for petrol) - but if I buy a car for lets say 100 k EUR, do I really care about fuel cost? I also dont get Hybrid / or Diesel Porsche Panameras. Or the Diesel Maserati Quattroporte. In the Maserati the engine is really that what the car makes good. But then there are people who buy the Diesel. Wtf?
@@Gentleman...DriverThe V10 TDI is a strong and durable engine that can take a beating and has a boatload of torque, the problem with it is that people often get fed misinformation or don't know how to properly fix/maintain one. A properly maintained V10 TDI will serve you well if you serve it well.
I just became the owner of 2008 T2 v10 TDi and I got with low mileage at insanely low price from a co-worker. Ran the VagCom and there is no major issues only some minor electrical faults…all I can say is, wow what a sleeper. I try to drive it gingerly but like Ezekiel Elliot, it wants to be fed…I own an 83 modified 300sd and I love that little car but man this baby is different beast all together…can’t believe that it’s a diesel motor, it’s so smooth…oh if someone is planning on getting one, do yourself a favor and get the VCDS diagnostic software it’s an invaluable tool..
I have one of these and I absolutely love it! Yes it needs to be taken care of and yes it’s bitch to work on. But I absolutely love how it sounds. I’ve got straight pipes and it’s awesome! It surprises be daily with the sound. Especially at lights at idle
I have one to and as you said it's a bitch to maintain but a dream to drive! Sound is just a benefit
@@onkarfreshie3127 v12 q7, reliable and even more torque, anyway the LC is like a truck on the road, handles like shit as it’s more off road focused, plus the v8 has nothing on the v10 and v12, they make so much more torque, fuck, the 3.0 tdi v6 toes better than a land cruiser
@@SkiRacingOz Australia, Asia, USA, Africa & the UAE must be missing out on this 5.0tdi Crap? The Germans try to copy the 4.2tdi In the last 15 years, but failed so badly, Even went on to V10_ 5.0tdi & failed so piss poor, they had to give up. The Japanese Won that war 15 years before the Germans started. Germans invented the diesel engine, the Japs perfected it. Best German engine was the VW 2.5tdi COGS TIMINGS SYSTEM. It was so good that they were not making money from spares parts department. As my friendly car mechanic says, " THANK GOD FOR Land Rover & the Germans Crap for repeat business, I just don't see the Japs!! In 2022, I still have a 25 year old, 100 series with 200k as the 3rd owner for 8 years, the past owners went on to buy newer Cruisers. Uber luxury, super smooth 4.2tdi & still a dream to drive, unlike the off roaders I've had. Yes, in-between I've tried to do better, but it all failed, X5, Merc G-WAGON, AUDI Q7 with expensive parts & electric headaches. So now keeping simple & straight forward, I now enjoy the KING CRUISER. Friends have the 2020 Range Rovers new ones, every 6-8 months, they spend more time in the repair garages thus making them, OFF THE ROAD. Only the Kia Sorento 2.2 td was near to the old bus, excellent 38mpg, but failed in comfy seats but the wife loves this. My grand total in up keep in 8 years, including services & ABS pump only after 25 years, has been £4500 in 60k mileage, BGF Goodyear still have 8mm after 20k Mileage. Also Bio fuel at £1 compare to £1.80 You can't even run BIO DIESEL in Q7 & new Germans. Did looked into buying a 5.0tdi, but after the horror stories & seeing 1 on the ramp, my bank balance looks good. As for road handling & towing, mine has factory coil springs, handles like, "glued to the bends" & I only tow 2.5 tonnes in the UK. LONG LIVE the KING Cruisers.
@@jaad5785 Not a bad engine, but still expensive Mercedes prices in the UK.
I have owned V10 Tdi Phaeton, for 4 years, and it never failed apart of alternator.
Was it hard to replace
Visio smashing the facts again keep up the good work dude love it 😁
Isn't that a TV company.
Keep up these type of videos. Verry interesting.
Thanks!
hi visio another great engine video
I wanted a Touareg for ten years ever since I saw it in a movie (Repo Men) and I finally got one last Xmas a V10 TDI 2006 perfect condition and for cheap too! My only complaint is the emissions systems, I understand the reasoning and all but my intake manifold and throttle bodies have half an inch of sludge built up over the last 200k miles. And no, it's not engine-out for most major work. The "book" says it's engine-out, but look on some forums many people have done tandem pumps and plenty of other things in-situ! But you're not buying it to save money ;) Also the engine is so literally two 2.5's melded together that each bank has it's own ecu.
Our v10 touareg hasn't been too bad over 30,000 miles. Weird starting issue which was grounding strap and we did replace the alternator ourselves but other than that it's been good. My brother drove it about 800 miles and towed a plane back to the uk another 800 miles and it was perfect for that job.
👏Great video thank you
Virtually every commercial diesel truck engine manufacturer uses the I-6 platform. Makes one wonder why a V-10?
I love how it roars like a lion. No racing engine sound, no muscle car sound, but something I haven't heard elsewhere.
Mine never had any huge issues, but proper maintenance is a must!
I’ve owned my v10 Touareg for well over 10 years now. No major issues. Tow heavy stuff too.
U just can't beat the Landcruiser Amazon 4.2tdi. V10 piss poor Germans failed to compete with the Japanese. VW 2.5tdi COGS TIMINGS SYSTEM the best of the Germans.
@@onkarfreshie3127 yes the land cruiser is good, I’ve done towing with them too. Still prefer the Touareg though, particularly when towing heavy. Why you think the v10 is so bad?
@@oakrootm Was thinking about a V10 few years ago, but other users & mechanics told me about the horror stories & seen one on the ramps. End up with a 3.0tdi Phaeton instead. Why do I copy & paste? It's a Good way of starting a interesting topic with many people. Enjoy my friend.
@@onkarfreshie3127 Makes you sound like a mentally damaged knob who does not belong on the internet but whatever makes you happy
I am not a historian but thank goodness that the Germans get caught up in making complex things. It may well have made a big difference in the outcome of World War II. Their tanks were way more complex than the ones used by the Allies, for example.
finally!, thx for the vid
Yea I don’t have a warranty. I got it second hand. Luckily the first owner took great care of it !
i had one 5.0tdi Touareg and it was really good, had to change powersteering pump and that was most Time consuming Job , it took about 10hours to replace but still i miss it.
One of the most beautiful engines ever made. Im Germany I frequently see some V10 Touareg and Phaeton
I absolutely LOVED my v10 TDI. Although it was a nightmare, I miss it!!
Excellent video. Please talk about Fiat/Lancia/Alfa Romeo Lampredi's engine, the "Bialbero" (Twincam).
Yes please. I always want to know more about Italian engines.
Well it will probably leak oil everywhere and eventually seize up before it gets to 50,000miles .
6:50 is an old friend of mine.....Lawson will enjoy seeing this for sure!
My v10 Touareg is still my fav car that I own. I don’t drive it nearly as much as I would like to but that’s a financial decision as when something goes wrong it’s much more expensive and hard to fix doing so myself. Plus diesel fuel is so expensive here on the east coast of the states. My daily is either my 97 Lincoln town car or 07 Lincoln town car. Tho nothing beats the sound of the Touareg. I love everything about it
I want a phaeton but I know it would bankrupt me.
Buy a cheap R5 and drive that for a year. Fixing that alone will cure you like it has me. I dream of an R50 too, but now I own a 2.5 transporter, not so much....
Phaeton with 3.0 tdi or v8 should be fine.
The 3.0tdi Phaeton is much better to live with. I removed the DPF and remapped, if driving like Miss Daisy u get 36mpg. Runs better on Bio Diesel.
We had the Phaeton in the US market, but it was offered with a V8 and a W12 from a Bentley
@@jonanthonylosito2004 phaeton is basicaly bentley.
Ako vzdy super video 👌
We actually have one. Not beig an upper 10 thousand of Hungary, to me it seemed a stretch... But after taking the engine out at out home, FOUR TIMES, now it is a tamed cat really. If you look after it, it will behave itself, just like any other car... Yes you can buy a car and use it until it is done, but if you do care, the worst car can even turn out to be the best. I've had injector problems, turbos shutting off when they feel like, transmission going ''K G'night''... I've done it at home, in my garage. To live with one is a challenge indeed, but worth it once you fix it properly, and not just fix it enough to sell it like most do. This is an engineering superstar, and yes 7 seconds to 60 MPH seems like an average today,but this was 2003, pulling a 3 ton castle, with a diesel engine that was more or less designed in the late '90-s. Whatever some may think... I still do admire and love it. And all that's said, I did not choose to buy that. But in the end, I started to get a liking to it, and now I feel that it is worth of saving in the long run, as is it never left us on the side of the road.
I always thought it would make a crazy donor engine. Then you can beef it up and make it easier to work on.
The "compact" design makes this engine a nightmare to work on. For example, like on many other VW cars, they made parts that are prone to wear and tear hard to access. It is one of the reasons that I, personally, hate working on vwag cars.
U just can't beat the Landcruiser Amazon 4.2tdi. V10 piss poor Germans failed to compete with the Japanese.
@@onkarfreshie3127 I never even seen a Amazon 4.2, but being a Toyota, I would imagine that is reliable and designed to be worked on by humans and not by some aliens that have four elbowed hands and 25cm(10 inch) fingers🙂.
@@Bata.andrei The Germans try to copy the 4.2tdi In the last 15 years, but failed so badly, Even went on to V10_ 5.0tdi & failed so so piss poor, they had to give up. The Japanese Won that war 15 years before the Germans started. In 2022, I still have a 25 year old, 100 series with 200k as the 3rd owner for 8 years, the past owners went on to buy newer Cruisers. Uber luxury, super smooth 4.2tdi & still a dream to drive, unlike the off roaders I've had. Yes, in-between I've tried to do better, but it all failed, X5, Merc G-WAGON, AUDI Q7 with expensive parts & electric headaches. So now keeping simple & straight forward, I now enjoying the KING CRUISER. Friends have the 2020 Range Rovers new ones, every 6 months, they spend more time in the repair garages thus making them, OFF THE ROAD. Only the Kia Sorento 2.2 td was near to the old bus, excellent 38mpg, but failed in comfy seats but the wife loves this. My grand total in up keep in 8 years, including services & ABS pump only after 25 years, has been £4500 in 60k mileage, BGF Goodyear still have 8mm after 20k Mileage. Also Bio fuel at £1 compare to £1.80 A Dam bargain. LONG LIVE the KING Cruisers. Where are you from?
@@onkarfreshie3127 I am originally from Romania, but now I am based in, where else, but Germany😁, working as a car mechanic/electrician and so, I am well aquinted with all the head aches of repairing German cars. 🙂
@@Bata.andrei Happy days from Scotland. I also drive a Phaeton 3lt TDI just remapped & removed the DPF. So far no issues. Lol
I like how alot of people will allways say that the v10 is bad because they read some stories on the internet. I think the biggest problem is that some people will buy it and treat it like sh!t and then give it poor maintance. I've owned a normal v10(gen2 who are better cars then gen1) and driven it for about 40k KM pulling trailers without any problems. Now I own a R50 for around 30k KM and still have not experience any big problems....... sooooo, stop blaming the v10 untill you owned 1 🥰. Its fast, strong and drives like a tank😂👌.
I have one of these sitting outside right now 2006 130000 miles I've had it for 2 years and done 10000 miles it's about the fastest car I've ever been in staggeringly Powerful comfortable desirable lingerie go anywhere suspension relentless speed not really been any trouble they can go wrong but they're really well built cars so if you repair something you have a really long run till something else goes wrong the original owner paid £79,000 for the car with extras I paid 9000 I think that's a bargain because it really does convey the sense of drama and quality and ability that's a £79,000 car should
Vw also has the v12 tdi for audi And the w16 for bugatti But did you know hidden in a vag museum in Germany there is a engine room with a W18 sitting :0
I know Mercedes thought about making a W-18 and even Tatra had such a prototype. Both of them with the three-bank design.
I miss the Mid 2000s R VWs they are just Incredibly underrated and so cool.
I had a V10 TDI in an 06 Touraeg. Carrier bearing kept popping, DPFs were clogged, drivers turbo was bad. But man the air suspension, ride quality, interior, power, off road, in general it was a nice car. The overcomplicatedness is what kills reliability
I wish I could get my hands on one of these.
They are definitely a treat to work on🔥
They are definitely a treat to work on🔥
Ahh yes, TDU2 once again introduced me to the Touareg V10 TDI! Such an insane engine!
I had 04 v10 touareg. First heated seats stopped working then it was power steering pump engine had to be dropped. Water pump at 60k. Valve covers leaking both new had to be replaced no gasket sold separately. New turbos at 65k. I believe I had replaced an alternator and at 80k I had to replace rear airbags. Right after that injector harness on passenger side. Don't even start with glow plugs. All in all my worst car decision ever when I sold the car on the day it was going to be shipped out check engine light came back again I though I was going to get a heart attack. Loved the car though the torque was unbelievable.
The first 10 seconds of his voice was enough for me! Onto the next video
You said it's bad on fuel consumption. I don't think so! I daily drive a Phaeton, on short in city drives I routinely get around 12L/100km. On road trips it gets aroun 9L if you drive Autobhan speeds and 8L if you drive around 130/140. I got 6.3L/100km when I drove 400km trip solely with intention to get as low consumption as possible. So wouldn't say it's bad. Specially for a 3 ton beast, with a slushbox ZF automatic and Thorsen 4x4... It's actually amazing, since modern 200hp 2.0tdi A4 Quattro can't get much bellow 7L/100km on similar drives. It's difficult on maintenance but I wouldn't say it's any less reliable as any other old diesel, remarkably! At 300 000+ km it doesn't smoke it still pulls hard the only thing that I'm concerned about is camshafts getting worn down...
There is noooo way a Phaeton is a 3 ton vehicle 😛😛😛
@@HEMI345S 2.7 t maximum weight
@@indahooddererste With 5 people and luggage 👍
There are just a few things to know about the engine. 1. Like any turbo car, after a longer drive and espacially when doing highway or pulling, don't turn off the car after you came to a stop. Let it run for 15-30 seconds for the turbos to cool down. Since it is a tightly packed engine, it is more important than with a single turbo engine in a large engine bay. 2. The PD-elements tend to work into the head by vibrating when driven only short trips and not long ones. Here is the person at fault thinking, a V10 is suitable to drive for 3-7km trips. No big engine is and espacially no Diesel engine is suited for such short trips. The solution or prevention are so called PD-bridges which clamp down the pumpinjectors and stop them from vibrating. Problem prevented/solved. 3. Change the rubber couplings on your accesories. If they wear out, they destroy your alternator and such. It's called maintenance, if you do service by the book, you are good in the majority of cases. 4. EGR is always the enemy of a long lasting and efficient engine. Clean your intake like with any other modern-ish diesel or delete the EGR altogether (no advice of course because legal blah blah). That's it. Plastic becomes brittle, any work is a lot more work because it's a luxury SUV, what do you expect? If you want something easy, buy a Lada. It breaks all the time but it's easy to fix. Want more luxury? Buy an american car, feels cheap, a little bit easier to repair, almost as reliable as a german car when taken care of. Want something more reliable? Buy a Toyota brand car. They are boring, cheap, feel cheap, look cheap, reliable and not really that less complicated to fix. At least when going for a Lexus. If you want a luxury SUV which was atop the game at it's time, then you accept the other side of owning such a vehicle which is a little bit more intensive maintenace which always works for you in the long run. If you think you have 5000 for a luxury SUV and expect it to work well when treated like your Clio or Corsa, grow up and think before you act. You don't buy Vans and expect them to be good shoes just like you don't buy Lloyds and expect them to still live after you've thrown them in the washing machine. Still the Lloyds are the better shoes, they just demand a different and proper care provided by grown-ups with the appropriate wallet. And yes I owned a R5 Touareg which was very good and now own a V10 and I do car and boat transports up to 3500kg for a side hustle with it. Through Europe. 50.000km a year.
Please do a video on the BMW M67D40/D44 and Mercedes-Benz OM628/OM629!
The Germans try to copy the Landcruiser Amazon 4.2tdi In the last 15 years, but failed so badly, Even went on to V10_ 5.0tdi & failed so so piss poor, they had to give up. The Japanese Won that war 15 years before the Germans started. Their Best engine was the 2.5 TDI Cogs timing system. Still going strong, lasting too too long, so hence the new 2.0 VW crap. In 2022, I still have a 25 year old, 100 series with 200k as the 3rd owner for 8 years, the past owners went on to buy newer Cruisers. Uber luxury, super smooth 4.2tdi & still a dream to drive, unlike the off roaders I've had. Yes, in-between I've tried to do better, but it all failed, X5, Merc G-WAGON, AUDI Q7 with expensive parts & electric headaches. So now keeping simple & straight forward, I now enjoying the KING CRUISER. Friends have the 2020 Range Rovers new ones, every 6 months, they spend more time in the repair garages thus making them, OFF THE ROAD. Only the Kia Sorento 2.2 td was near to the old bus, excellent 38mpg, but failed in comfy seats but the wife loves this. My grand total in up keep in 8 years, including services & ABS pump only after 25 years, has been £4500 in 60k mileage, BGF Goodyear still have 8mm after 20k Mileage. Also Bio fuel at £1 compare to £1.80 A Dam bargain. LONG LIVE the KING Cruisers.
A truly amazing engine. Can be testing of the patients but stick to the order of disassembly. Deleting some parts will improve things
I have a 2.5 TDI T5 van, so half of one of these and it's been a nightmare to fix up. Sure quenched my desire for an R50.
I currently own a 2006 v10 Touareg in Australia,I’ve owned it for about 10 years now. It’s been a bloody great car for me, I tow 3200kg with it often and I can not fault it. Yes there’s smaller engines that have the same outputs and are better on fuel ect, but I like to see how they last after 14 years being stressed all the time trying to match the same output of a large displacement lazy engine.. I will never replace the car. And yes I take mine off roading also, cannot beat the all wheel drive system and the airbag suspension. Yes I’ve pulled 11t Kenworth part way up a highway to get it in safe spot to work on it. The worst thing that’s happened to mine was a valve body in the transmission, that was a common asin problem.
You got a lucky one.
did it use allison gearbox not aisin? my aisin gearbox in 2kd diesel is work fine. most of thailand and indonesia user push their 1KD and 2 KD FTV toyota engine tune their diesel and some of them break 1000 Nm torque. the gearbox it self hold the power and torque. the only modified auto trans is just using transgo kit and ATF cooler if u plan to get 500 hp or 1000 Nm
@@trianggaindralukmana2184 nah it was a aisin box tr60sn to be exact. They had issues with bores in the valve body wearing causing them to thump on 4-5 down shifts and flare on the 3-4 up shift. The transmission itself is fine unless your ignore this issue then they become much more serious
I honestly thought most of these were recalled because of diesel gate. Always found them interesting.
My father had one,V10 diesel in 2006,very good torque the launch it was incredible,but after 100.000km the pinion distribution blew out
My father dreams of a VW Phaeton With especially THIS engine! 😦
Constructive criticism: Had to turn on subtitles for this one, understanding what you wanted to say was a bit tough. Don't remember it being like this in older videos tho. Hopefully next video will be a bit more clear. Nevertheless, good video and very interesting topic.
Even though I have to really pay attention to hear every word from VIS, I fucking love his videos. Do a video on the 7.3 Ford/International if you ever get a chance!
Then pay attention. People from different countries have different accents, even regions within countries have different accents, so live with it, comments on it are unnecessary and offensive implying a misplaced sense of personal superiority. I don't know where you are from but I find some American spoken English to be almost impossible, accent and expression, particularly from the southern states but persevere if the person is saying something worth hearing and I do not comment about it. Mr Viseo's command of English as a second language is excellent and he has a lot of good stuff to say. I whole heartedly support him.
Thank you, guys!
@@philiptownsend4026 There is an understandable and acceptable accent and then some 'lively note to add some flavor/production value' added on top of that. The end result is more laborious to listen than just pure accent. I'm now commenting this just because I've been following VR for a very long time and this is the first video I was just about to stop watching before it's end, regardless of the interesting and otherwise well presented (As usual) topic.
@@ilkkasorsa9778 I actually live in Mr Viseo's native country and hear his accent in spoken English here every day. It is not my native country. I am from London England and emigrated here nearly four years ago. I have also worked in a language school here so I know how natives speak English as their second language. Please believe me, Mr Viseo is not faking anything. What possible reason could he have?
@@philiptownsend4026 first off, I wasn’t insult Mr. VISIO NOT VISEO, I was saying there are a ton great things he does, that’s why I sub and listen. If you took it the wrong way then maybe the problem is with you.😇
Would you like to discover an interesting development of VW v10 TDI? At 2004 Monza 6hrs raced a Lola-Caterpillar, a Lola LMP chassis car pushed by a v10 TDI tuned by Caterpillar. Was the first, not victorious, appearance of a diesel engine in endurance, before a proper regulamentation was written. Few years later Audi built R10, and we all know how it ended. Finding references of the car I described drove me crazy, that I used to know it existed because I watched Monza 6hr in TV at time. Obviously Visio named it at the end of the video
V10 pulls very good breaks down often I have had two of them
I owed a R50, loved it. Just a shame it use to leak oil as quick as it drank fuel 🤣
Best era of German cars the 00's 👌
The V10 TDI itself isn't the nightmare, it's the people who don't know how to take care of one that are the nightmare. All that aside, it's a criminally underrated beast of a unit and a powerful, torquey one.
amazing engine !!!
There's a v10 TDI Touareg down the road from me, hardly ever moves, I'd love to hear it running.
I love this engine; and the v12 tdi.
I rebuilt one these beasts back when they were new!
I have one , it's great. It's tuned and Sometimes it feels like it wants to wheelie. The only thing that let's it down is the lazy gearbox .
I tried to buy a wrecked Touareg so I could swap one of these into my 89 Wrangler. I am glad that I got outbid on that. Went with an M57 instead.
The best VW 2.5tdi was COGS TIMINGS SYSTEM, best of Japan is the Toyota 4.2tdi . Both bulletproof.
6:41 Yaaaaaay!!! Bkorven's E420 CDI ❤
Yes! I thought I recognized this. It’s worked by Kleeman isn’t it? I love the sound of that motor. And the few vids of w163 ML400tdi. There’s a lot of people who say it wasn’t reliable. They never came to Oz so I’ll never know. I had a MK270cdi. That was ok until the inlet manifold did it’s thing and failed. Shit design.
@@markmcgrath9098 MB V8 diesel suffers clocked intake manifolds and inlets in cylinder heads because off egr shit.
This engine needs 505.01 5W40 oil ONLY! VW did a mistake to recommend the long-life 506.01 0W30 variant. The latter damages the cam lobes as it's too thin. That's for pre-DPF V10s (2003-2005).
Don’t care what anyone else says this is a magnificent motor: the pull of the thing is stupendous. All unit injector TDI lumps from the 1.4 3 pot to this have very strong low speed torque characteristics.
I would love buy one of these and then it into a backcountry off-roader
So you have to pull the intake to change the starter? Brilliant
I now officially am the owner of a R50 Touareg yaaay I'll keep this thing running as long as I can. I dont care how much I have to spend it will keep on running
The engine itself isn't that bad, its quite amazing. They used gears instead of belts. Only known problems are caused if you use the wrong oil due to plasma cylinder coating. Only available motor oil for the V10 is for example Liqui Moly 1151 with Plasma Additive. VW itself use the Wrong oil without Plasma additives. This cause damage in the plasma coating and lead to loss of compression. Alternator and Water Pump are crappy but once changed its okay. And the PDE Pumpe Düse Einheit may cause problems. Just do Ultrasonic cleaning the PDE and injectors and put it back together. Engine is amazing. Can do 1000Nm torque and 400hp just with a good tune.
Moral of storu- Use cast iron liners
i was a ''jdm'' car tuner back in early 2000, now i work on audis and vw for almost 10 years, although i think its better than turbo jdms because outside of the ea888 you dont need a new engine every 10k miles, its too much complicated for no reason in some cases, tdi engines except of the alh are stupid complicated, at least the vag parts id system is great, the fact that you can remove the front clip easily is great too, i also like the way that their computer modules system works with coding and diag but reliability wise ill stick with american made cars for daily use, its not the case for everybody but i had way better luck with gm or toyota engines
Holy shit is that complicated! I never understood how complex this engine was. I've only seen one of these ever driving around south Florida. As to pulling a 747, it is the transmission that matters. Airport tugs that move planes around rarely have more than about 300 hp, but they have transmissions from hell with serious "granny gearing". I wonder if the Toureg ["towel rack"] they did that with was driveable afterwards.... Great video!
The 747 pull was a PR stunt of course. But the car only needed minor changes: 4.5 tons added weight for more traction, higher tire pressure and shorter gearing of course. That's all. The plane weighed 155 tons (more than the gearing I wonder that the tow hook didn't break apart!)
@@diecksl Tow hooks for 747's aren't as beefy as you think. They are usually under compression when moving an airliner. 747's can weigh upwards of 900,000 pounds at takeoff, but the empty weight is generally around 365,000 pounds. My understanding is that they left 50,000 pounds of fuel in the center tank to keep the nose wheel on the ground, so figure around 415,000 pounds moved. That sounds like a lot, but with proper gearing [or if you don't care about transmission life] 310 hp should get the job done just fine. Just don't plan on driving away afterwards...
Could you make a video about the M157 AMG engine🙏
just to let you know, this engine got 350.000km ~ 220000miles on my Phaeton V10 TDi without big issues. Alternator failed and steering rack need some oil stop additive. Without oil stop additive you would need to replace steering rack and to replace the rack you need to remove engine and gearbox.
That last clip with just the sound wow, that V10 sweetness with the deeper grunt of Diesel is just so beautiful.
U just can't beat the Landcruiser Amazon 4.2tdi. V10 piss poor Germans failed to compete with the Japanese. 2.5tdi COGS TIMINGS SYSTEM the best of the Germans.
@@onkarfreshie3127 dude.. these engines are equally reliable
@@jonanthonylosito2004 it's a bot lol
@@jonanthonylosito2004 Never heard, seen, or know of one getting to 200k mileage without any problems. Is that why they pull of the market? Their 4.2tdi was a failure too. Just look at the amount sales they sold. The VW 2.5tdi COGS TIMINGS SYSTEM is the best of the Germans could do.
@@onkarfreshie3127 Who cares about reliability, refer to my original comment!
If you want an affordable, reliable and simple motor, look if that brand sells light commercial trucks and vans. The engines in those usually have maintenance costs in mind. If they sell those engines in their passenger cars, they would be a good buy. Good examples are the Toyota 4 cylinder diesel. Not the quietest, not the most powerful, but very simple and dependable engine.
It holds very well 300tkm no problem. However you need too take care of it and don't start full gas too often. Gerabox can be pissed
Now we want the V12 TDI video 😎 and why not in the Audi R8 TDI?
Scroll down my channel. I made it like a month ago
Depends on how you maintain it, no back street cowboys, decent parts and the right oil, not any old old the correct oil.
I prefer our $9k eGolf over the 5.0 that we had, all that oil to deal with. The R1S is fun too but expensive..
I’d still buy one
The most interesting and unique engines will always be the most unreliable.
Só quero o motor r50 tdi v10 350cv E a tração nas quatro rodas e o câmbio manual de 7 marchas pra colocá na minha saveiro quadrada
There are 6cycl even 4cycl diesel engine today with 1000nm torque from factory
Can you please make a video on the 1.9 TDI
I’m Lookin For V6 TDI Rn, Even Better That V10 TDI. 🎃
Did you consider making a similar video on BMW M67D40 series V8 diesel
What is funny for me is that even if love that engine. I bought in 2019 a Skoda Kodiaq TDI 2.0 190 hp then I did a remap to 223 hp and now this 4 cilinder TDI is actually as fast if not faster (7.3s 0-100kmh) than the 1st generation of Touareg V10 ! And even cheaper?
Can it tow the same? I think not.
@@frankhassle9366 No way. The V10 can tow your entire house! 😂
Even though the V10TDI is listed at something like 7.2sec/100Kmh it's quite faster. Like sub 7s, I own one and it's definitely faster than 7s to 100kmh. Something like 6.5s, I'd say.
@@C_R_O_M________ I was doing a compare with the 1st generation of v10s. I think there are newer generations that are definitely faster.
@@jesusrv2009 mine is a 2005 so it's T1 first gen. Not chipped either (as far as I know, got it used from Germany almost 10 years ago).
I miss my '82 Rabbit diesel's simplicity.