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Stella wild card has some broken combos
Flash Hulk gets dirtier as time went on. LOTR Samwise Gamgee, Caldron Familiar, Viscera Seer is a 4 Mana win and then you get 2 free mana to stop interaction as you see fit. If it is your turn, you can use Grand Abolisher which stops practically all interaction your opponent could have.
I run this exact set up in my Thalia and the Gitrog monster deck. Super handy when your commander can sack the Hulk!.
Shoutout to the Commander combos: Heliod + Ballista, Triskelion + Mikaeus, Lethal Vapors + Teferi's Protection, Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood
and Karn, the Great Creator + Mycosynth Lattice LOL
Just a little note, the Legend Rule doesn't have you sacrifice the objects that you don't keep. They are simply put into the Gtaveyard. If you controlled a Korvald, it wouldn't trigger if you Legend Ruled a creature away.
Incorrect, quick google search says that the second copy is indeed sacrificed
Nah, he’s right. Rule 704.5j. 704.5j If two or more legendary permanents with the same name are controlled by the same player, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.” Note that put into graveyard is distinct from sacrifices, but not from dies. You would still get leaves the battlefield triggers.
@@charlessmith208 except on arena, which is made, owned and run by wizards, you sac the extra. As such, its a sac and not a put, per the creators of the game
@@thorbalt1 arena isnt the best way to learn the rules of magic
@@theaamanable Sorry, but that quick Google search is incorrect. I've been a Magic judge since 1999. If you can let me know where you found that answer then maybe I can reach out to the person who wrote the article or whatever and hopefully get the page updated to contain the right info so that players don't get confused.
Legit thought the sponsor was going to be Morgan and Morgan. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad disappointed
More like Markov's and Manors
I like that while you were discussing the key//vault combo, you had the card "key to the vault" in the background
The Flash Hulk combo I'm more familiar with is the Disciple of the Vault version. Though honestly, they're all instant wins so it doesn't really matter.
It's crazy because Hulk keeps getting better over the years because you can do it with less colors. BG Hulk is honestly a pretty solid cEDH deck.
my version won by giving a token of Phage to each opponent lol they should have banned proteanhulk instead of flash in commander tho
@@xChikyx lol no
@@xChikyx, Flash is turn 0 even without Program Hulk. Both cards can make new cards better but Flash could make them broken.
@@TheSpiritombsableye i Know, but protean hulk is what makes the combo, when It was banned, flash wasn't a problem
Honorable mentions should probably go to Krark-Clan Ironworks combos, as they abuse KCI's mana ability to pull combo nonsense off in the middle of activating abilities on other cards. The complexity and obscurity of the rules interactions was one of the factors cited in banning KCI.
Nah bro you be killing me not including reverberate and second breakfast. What is more powerful than a second second breakfast?
I don't think the Professor has heard of second second breakfast user-sc8xt7fh7o.
@@Anatak2222 What about brunch? Elvensies? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper?
I wouldn't count on it
I'm a big fan of "Oops! All Spells" which is a variant of the thassa's oracle combo: play any kind of fast mana to ramp into ballustrade spy, mill your whole library because you don't run any lands, get 3 Narcomoeba to sac to dread return targeting thassa's oracle. Less powerful than demonic consultation, but you don't need to rely on drawing the thassa's oracle because you get it out of the graveyard.
and with protean hulk/summoning pact you can do it turn 0 despite flash being gone lol, i used to have a very dumb turn 0 oops all spells that used lab maniac instead of oracle EDIT: wait, summoner's pact just puts it into your hand, it's been so long... oh well, it was basically what you're talking about but with a lab maniac lol
yes! I have a pauper deck which is '2 land spy' (usually 1 land but I prefer the consistency of 2 lands). It wins by pulling the 2 lands out of your deck, flipping over your deck with spy, then unearthing dregscape zombies to flashback dread return to bring back lotleth giant. Very fun deck!
Can we discuss how for a short time #1 was being used to grab #3 in cEDH? 2 of the most busted combos just hanging out together in a shell of mostly just the strongest control cards legal in commander.
yeah, the RC is a joke
Yeah, Breakfast hulk was probably the strongest version of the deck. It combined hulk's instant speed win and extreme cheap cost with ThOracle's narrow counterplay. For people who don't know, here is the combo: Cast flash putting Protean Hulk into play and immediately saccing it to get a Hulk death trigger. Grab Nomads en-Kor, Cephalid Illusionist and Thassa's Oracle from your deck. When they enter the battlefield, Thoracle's trigger goes into the stack, and you activate Nomads en-Kor targeting Cephalid Illusionist. Nomads' ability cost zero and its effect is meaningless, but every time Cephalid is targeted you mill three cards. When you have no cards, and Thoracle trigger resolves, you win. If anybody tries to put literally any game action on the stack proceed to put more Nomads activations on the stack, until you have enough to win anyway. The only way to stop this is either by stifling the Thoracle trigger or by making the person draw a card, but differently from a straight Thassa's Consultation win, you can do it on instant speed, as an answer to someone else's combo. Infact, the way the cEDH meta of its time developed, the only viable way to stop te win was to either counter the Flash, or wait for the hulk to die and ... cast your own flash hulk to win instant speed, with the opponent win on the stack.
@@xChikyx formats like cedh don't need to be overlooked by some arbitrary force as long as they are no "official" mtg sponsored cedh tournaments
@@felity1773 considering there now are startings of that with one already now being officially sponsored and others playing for ridiculous amounts of money, the current RC needs to be disbanded and replaced.
@@Dtoszi or, cEDH players can stop crying anytime someone suggest splitting it into its own format separate from casual EDH, then you can have your own ban list for your format without it ruining casual decks.
The amount of "I win" creature piles you can build off Hulk really does push it to #1 over Vault/Key imho. In one of my EDH decks, Hulk is mainly used to find Conspicuous Snoop (2) + Boggart Harbinger (3) + Torch Bearer (1). Use Harbinger to put Kiki-Jiki on top of your library. Sac Torch Bearer to give Snoop Haste. Tap Snoop to make copy of Snoop, then Snoop-copy to make Copy of Snoop ad infinitum. Tap last Snoop-copy to make copy of Harbinger. Put Mog Fanatic or Sling-Gang Lieutenant on top of library. Sac every last Snoop and Snoop-copy to put all opponents to 0 life.
The new Flash-Hulk package is so much tighter than it used to be thanks to LOTR. Samwise Gamgee is 2 mana and says “whenever another nontoken creature enters the battlefield, create a food token”. Cauldron Familiar is 1 mana, drains an opponent for 1 life on etb, and allows you to return it by sacrificing a food. Together with a 1-mana free sac outlet this is literally infinite, and you now have 2 extra mana to include Grand Abolisher to lock your opponent(s) out of interacting. No clone shenanigans needed. This is the main reason Flash went from 5 to 7 points in Canadian Highlander, bringing it in line with other combo cards like Thoracle, Vault, Black Lotus, and Time Walk. Speaking of Time Walk, one of my favorite combos is SeekerWalk. You might think it’s as simple as using Spellseeker to find Time Walk, but to go infinite you need a few extra pieces that are cool. Your first Spellseeker finds Ephemerate, which you then use on seeker to find Walk and take an extra turn. Then you rebound the ephemerate (which now goes to the graveyard) on seeker and find Neoform (birthing pod but it’s a sorcery), then Neoform seeker (3 cmc) into Timeless Witness (a 4 cmc eternal witness), which returns a card from your graveyard to your hand, in this case ephemerate. Then you ephemerate the Witness and bring back Time Walk. Because of rebound, the Ephemerate-Witness-Time Walk loop is infinite turns for only 3 mana each turn, but in formats without Time Walk you can do it with 6 mana instead (using Time Warp or similar)
The version of Flash Hulk that got it banned from cEDH is arguably even stronger, because it doesn't fold to creature removal. Named Breakfast hulk, it was a mix of flash hulk, Thassa's Oracle, and an old combo called Cephalid Breakfast. Here is the combo: Cast flash putting Protean Hulk into play and immediately saccing it to get a Hulk death trigger. Grab Nomads en-Kor, Cephalid Illusionist and Thassa's Oracle from your deck. When they enter the battlefield, Thoracle's trigger goes into the stack, and you activate Nomads en-Kor targeting Cephalid Illusionist. Nomads' ability cost zero and its effect is meaningless, but every time Cephalid is targeted you mill three cards. When you have no cards, and Thoracle trigger resolves, you win. If anybody tries to put literally any game action on the stack proceed to put more Nomads activations on the stack, until you have enough to win anyway. The only way to stop this is either by stifling the Thoracle trigger or by making the person draw a card, but differently from a straight Thassa's Consultation win, you can do it on instant speed, as an answer to someone else's combo. Infact, the way the cEDH meta of its time developed, the only viable way to stop te win was to either counter the Flash, or wait for the hulk to die and ... cast your own flash hulk to win instant speed, with the opponent win on the stack.
My favorite combo was one i accidentally discovered while making my Nekusar deck. I pulled a borderless Bloodchief Ascension, put it into the deck, then my Mindcrank hit the board an im like "wait a minute, this goes infinite. I win 😂" It was probably one of my favorite MTG moments that happened when no one else was around to see it
Great vid as always, Prof. My favorite combo is Heliod Ballista, which I consider to be the second-best combo in cEDH behind Thoracle. Though a bit mana-intensive (9 total, split 3 + 6 over at least 2 turns), having one of the pieces in the command zone really pushes its power level in that format. Combined with White's multiple Silence effects, stax pieces, and artifact tutors, Heliod Ballista is a force to be reckoned with at any cEDH table. We also can't forget that this combo was banned out of Pioneer because of the deck's ability to play a fair midrange game until accidentally winning with a well-timed Ballista.
Heliod Ballista is really bad in cEDH tbh. Sure it'll win you games but you either need to be playing mono white to play it in the CZ (which is probably the second worst color to go mono in) or play it in the 99 which I don't think any decks should realistically do as there are so many better combos (breach lines, dockside loops, food chain loops, etc etc etc etc). I don't think it's even in the running for top 5 one card combos with the commander (with Tivit Time Sieve probably taking #1 in the current meta).
Heliod Ballista is not even among the top 5 combos in cEDH. Few combos that are straight up better: - BreachFreeze - Thoracle Consult - Dockside + recusion engine like Emiel or Cloudstone + your commander thats an inf mana outlet - Food Chain + Cast-From-Exile creature + casting your commander multiple times with FC mana - Chain of Smog + Witherblood Apprentice - Twinflame + Dualcaster mage or Kiki-Jiki + untapper (inf attackers, so basically the same) - T3feri + Displacer Kitten + mana positive artifact Also, there are commander centric combos that are better, like Tivit + Time Sieve, Najeela + Derevi and Inala + Spellseeker.
I think that the Hangarback Walker infinite loop deserves some kind of honorable mention. While yes, it is primarily a combo/loop you see in Commander, it is very consistent and fully capable of just ending games from out of nowhere. And there are so many ways to pull it off, with a ton of variants ranging from the Heliod or Mikaeus loop that pings everyone to death, to the Emry loop that generates infinite storm count, to the Sifter of Skulls variant that generates infinite mana, and so many more.
hangarback walker loops?
I think you're thinking of Triskelion/Walking Ballista
I've only been playing MTG for about 3 months and these are crazy. For me the 2-card combo of Bloodletter of Aclazotz and Rush of Dread is pretty crazy considering it wouldn't matter if your opponent has 301k hp, they're still dead.
For me the Tolarian Academy combo decks from combo winter in either the standard or extended version remains the most broken stuff ever, Flash/Hulk can still be stopped with Force of will, tolarian academy decks have so many lines that is basically impossible to stop it two turns in a row.
Could u make a lore video about the idk top 10 most powerful characters in all of magic? That would be great!
If I had to guess it would be something like this: 1. Guff 2. Yawgmoth 3. The Ur Dragon 4. Eldrazi Titans 5. Pre-mending Bolas After that I'm not really sure would be pretty debatable
Leaving Emrakul off your list eh? She's not on the same level as the other two.
@@styfenthey said eldrazi titans as in all 3
@@OnePointSafetyI would put Urza at one, but that's a fantastic list.
Have urza and bolas ever fought? I feel like urza would win.... pre mending bolas got smoked by toshiro
Similar to the Flash Hulk kill, the Hive Mind + Pact kill is really exciting to see. I think it was specifically run in Bloom Titan (before bloom got banned) resulting in some possible super quick kills. Maybe not as powerful, but really cool!
Hi Professor! Great video, as always! I was hoping to see illusions of grandeur + donate, it may not be the best combo as of today, but it was the core of one of the, if not the most, oppresive combo decks of all time, Trix.
Really liked this would enjoy seeing some more cedh combos
I have always loved the Mindcrank - Bloodchief combo. I think its very easy to include in most lists that play swamps. The fact that Bloodchief's can just win, is a decent upside. Probably doesn't meet the criteria you put forth, but I like it. 😊
My Flash-less Hulk/Flash deck is still my most consistent Legacy deck. It uses draw/discard effects like careful study to bin the Hulk, then reanimates it with Footsteps of the Goryo or Necromancy to prompt an end of turn sacrifice that starts the combo. Dark rituals, hand disruption, and free counterspells round out the package.
I particularly like a combo that I found using Reprecussion and Chandra's Incinerator. Any damage dealt to an opponent's creature will trigger Reprecussion which will then trigger Chandra's Incinerator to deal that much damage to a creature that opponent controls. That loops back to triggering Reprecussion and you now have a consistent board clear for your opponents while also pinging them for as much toughness they hand on board. Goblin Sharpshooter can start the combo on each of your opponents boards provided they all have creatures.
I won a few FNM at my local store of the time with red/black infect, using the Immolating Souleater and something like Tainted Strike (as well as a few other methods as backup) to do a Channel Fireball style one-hit infect win combo on turn 3. Was good times.
Bloodline Keeper + Intruder Alarm. Infinite vampires on your turn. Painter's Servant + Grindstone. Instant win, possibly on first turn if you have the correct set up.
Not instant. You still need to go to their draw step.
@@AnonymousHuman-ku5whI've won with this combo card in tournaments many years ago. It is instant. You just need to have Painter's Servant in play first. The color doesn't matter and could be a completely different color in the opponent's deck. Grindstone: Target player mills two cards. If two cards that share a color were milled this way, repeat this process. Painter's Servant: As Painter's Servant enters the battlefield, choose a color. All cards that aren't on the battlefield, spells, and permanents are the chosen color in addition to their other colors.
@@scottii they dont lose the game by having an empty library. They lose by going to draw a card with an empty library. Players will usually concede before they get to that draw step, but on rare occasions they may try to sneak the win with what they have in hand/ in play.
Mind over Mana and Recurring Survival are my favorite broken combos from the past. The fact that Recurring Nightmare is banned in Commander still shows the power of the card.
It shows more how slow the CAG is than how strong Recurring Nightmare is.
Probably not the most broken, but I've always been a big fan of "Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank" combo. Especially because the way I discovered it was by inadvertently putting it in a deck, lending said deck to a friend, and then having them teach me the combo by abruptly obliterating my life total with it :D
IllusionsDonate was pretty good in its heyday, and Slaver lock is worth a mention; but my favorite combo is one that isn't very good or consistent and is very fragile and even salty: Chronatog, Orb of Dreams, Stasis - skip all your turns, sleep for eternity, win by not playing.
Similarly, this was a combo I used in commander in a Zedruu deck + Venser the Sojurner He's one of the few effects in the game that allows you to exile something you own (as opposed to control) then return it to play under your control. In the multiplayer environment it meant you could cast the enchantment to gain 20, use Zedruu to donate it, flicker it with Venser to make your opponent lose 20, then have the enchantment enter again under your control gaining you another 20 life. And you could repeat that every turn so long as you could protect Venser
What a fun list! There are many other great combos, including Painter-Grindstone and RIP or Leyline Helm.
Honorable mention for me would be all the Devoted Druid plus preventing counters combos. Had various cards added too it in the past, but sometimes a splash in Standard and Modern. It's wild how far Flash got and Hulk just got to enjoy it so long.
Probably my favorite AD transition you've done
I liked Enduring renewal, Goblin Bombardment, and Ornithropter.
I only have one Commander magic deck. But it's a pretty good deck. It's got one combo like you're talking about that would be the Heliod Sun-Crowned, Walking Ballista or Triskelion "it just machine gun pokes everybody at the table to death for one damaged repeatedly". I usually change my commander out to make it harder to get this combo. But on occasion at the local game store there's some folks there that want to play rough.
I love how I cracked the thassa’s oracle combo in minutes, never had a chance to prove it, then later heard it’s one of the most powerful win cons ever
I remember that I used to play demonic consultation in a crazy storm deck in a non-format friends group (it was a backup win con with lab maniac), and at that time nobody in my area knew about that card lol
That was one hell of a stretch to the ad lol but nice prof
One of my favorite combo pieces, and one I'm sure Prof appreciates too, is Deeproot Pilgrimage. I love it because it can win in other ways than just making infinite merfolk. Wanderwine Prophets makes infinite turns, Drowner of Secrets and Intruder Alarm mills everyone, Mutavault and Intruder Alarm makes infinite colorless mana, there's a couple merfolk that tap to ping, and it really makes Kumena do his thing.
I discovered an interesting interaction in Jeski when I was first getting into commander Have noyan, dar roil shaper and Jeski ascendency on the field and cast haze of rage stack the triggers so that noyan dar turns your lands into creatures then have Jeski ascendency untap them and now you have infinite mana because of the buyback ability on haze of rage (it's an expensive and hard to pull off combo but it's fun when it works, throw in some cards like archmage ameritus or something else that can draw you cards for casting spells, and lab man and win the game
Painter-Grindstone is really cool
That and Helm/Voidwalker are my wildcard choices if I have room in a given build. I like the second one a bit better because the Dauthi Voidwalker is a legitimately good card that’s not dead on its own. But a bit easier to find artifacts so it’s close.
Thanks for this. Any chance of a jank combo episode. I'm partial to all the tricks you can do with Wall of Blood, or Wall of Shards, or changeling human-werewolves, or Pariah.
In EDH, I would bring in a favorite of mine--Bloodchief's Ascension + Mindcrank. Ascension is just an amazing card on its own, and Mindcrank is an easy include to tutor up once the Ascension is active.
Ascension already does so much damage, that including a useless card like Mindcrank is not really needed. You can achieve almost the same effect with a Wheel of Fortune or a board wipe.
I remember playing a Cube Draft where I opened with a huge mana advantage setup, only for my opponent to cast Channel followed by Emrakul, the Aeons Torn.
It’s funny because almost all those cards are included in a vintage cube. So they are kinda legal in at least one format. You just need to be lucky and draft the right cards. Thassa‘s Oracle also pairs nice with Doomsday. It’s always fun to see LSV agonizing his opponents with those combos. Still I think in a cube format those combos are absolutely fine.
Cube isn't a format, though.
not super related but I really did love the segue into the sponsored message XD
Thought of Flash Hulk immediately when I saw the video, it's nuts. :) Bit surprised to see Grindstone (banned in modern) + Painter's Servant, two colorless card combo that mills target players whole deck, didn't get a mention.
Combo's that fold to creature removal < combo's that don't
@@B1gLupu True.
Leyline of the Void + Helm of Obedience, though :p Sadly, both of these tactics only sets up to kills one player at a time
The Time Vault erratas are very funny, worth a read @14:38
Just general shout out to Solemnity. Also allows for Dark Depths to pop on Etb, allows for infinite mana with Devoted Druid, shenanigans with Persist/Undying, immunity to life loss with Phyrexian Unlife. I don't think any of them are as innately strong as the stuff on this list, but just a lot of neat stuff.
I always think of Saheeli combo when I think combos. Not because it's stupid powerful but because of the banning of felidar guardian so quickly after release.
Also that they printed them in the same set so it was briefly standard legal.
similar to splinter twin - Kiki Jiki does the same thing for 1 more mana. I have used that a fewt times, not with pestermite, but with restoration angel (its my secret win con for my Kaalia commander deck)
I’ve never commented on a KZhead video before. But I had to give my input here. I play a somewhat dragon deck in commander, and I surprisingly get a healthy amount of wins with this silly combo I have in it. Worldgorger Dragon (in graveyard) + Animate dead = infinite basic land mana Then use Animate Dead on Inferno of the star mounts and buff it with all the mana! (Because it has haste, it can attack no problem) Out of a 99 card deck, I shockingly get these cards in my graveyard often. Definitely a counter-able combo, but it’s pretty fun to pull off.
Stasis Combo remains one of my absolute favorites (Chronatog+Root Maze+Stasis), its such a funny way to win the game. I think Trix needed a honorary mention tho kinda (Illusions of Grandeur+Donate) or the first top modern deck with the Stroke of Genius over-draw.
8:45 fun fact: you actually don't tap lion's eye diamond in order to activate it's ability! Unlike things like treasures, black lotus, and lotus petal, tapping is not actually a requirement to get the 3 mana from lion's eye diamond, making this combo work through effects such as manglehorn and dauntless dismantler that make artifacts enter the battlefield tapped. This can also be used with effects such as urza to get an extra mana.
I’m partial to the Mana Geyser-Reiterate loop followed up with Comet Storm. Or the Curiosity and Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind/Niv-Mizzet, Parunn combo. They’re not near the levels of being broken as this list, but I enjoy them.
I remember, back when I was in college, them changing the errata on Flash to be consistent with the printed text (it had previously been errata'd to something like "You may cast the next creature spell as though it had flash; reduce its cost by 2"). Effectively, they decided that it would be confusing for players to cast a spell and have it function differently than the printed text would indicate it does. So their solution was to "fix" the errata, and then ban it because of how broken the combo was. Which, in a way, does fix their stated problem: can't be confused about how the card works when you play it, if you can't play it at all because it's banned everywhere. I feel like they should have just left the errata alone, honestly.
Other than the combos mentioned other combos that come to mind is emrakul sneak attack or tooth and nail into makeas and triskelion
Shout out to KCI for being so convoluted an extremely specific that any interaction against it results in a judge call
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Nailed, I would choose these 5 too. I would also do an honorable mention to karn + mycosynth lattice, since it is worse than all these combos (4+7 mana), but it is literally a 1 card combo
I always liked using Time Sieve and Thopter Assembly in commander. I've built decks that focused on getting time sieve out and having enough cheap artifacts to power until I get a win con.
You don't need Thopter Assembly if you just play Tivit as your commander.
I am old, so honourable mention to the Necropotence obscenities definitely would make it for me. Heliod/Ballista, Breakfast, and the all spells variants too (those seem more fragile to me but still very busted).
well my favorite 2 card combo is Xenagos, God of Rebels and Emrakul the Aeons Torn, since i only need to cast a Tooth and Nail with entwine (and i only need 1 of each and not even in hand), and it is easily doable in Tron, since it is easily "hidable" because i play the usual tron and from out of nowhere, a 30/30 flying with haste and annihilator 6 comes your way you panic and on sideboard I have Iona, shield of emeria and painter's servant
I have fond memories of tolarian academy/mind over matter/braingeyser. Chuck in candelabra and some artifact ramp to make it really absurd. Never killed turn 1 but turn 3 wasn't uncommon.
If you have done top 10, would Tolarian Academy, MoM, Stroke of Genius combo would make it? It's lot of pieces but it sure was consistent at the time. I'm old enough to remember them being legal in standard, but it was the most memorable combo to me as it defeats the opponent by decking instead of damage.
That ad setup was great😂
Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame (or the new Molten Duplication) is almost good enough to make the list I think, with a seething song and a Spiritguide you can put it out turn 2 (or maybe even turn 1 with an additional lotus petal) and then you just win. Pretty overlooked too, if you ask me.
18:41 "Sure you lose if you draw any of them, but this deck wins so quickly, so easily, that there won't be time to draw them." Hulk Flash decks ran a single copy of Body Snatcher as a failsafe. If you topdecked one of your combo pieces, you could fetch Body Snatcher instead, discard the stuck combo piece to Body Snatcher's ETB trigger, then sac the Body Snatcher and use its death trigger to the combo piece. For most of the decks using Carrion Feeder piles, if Carrion Feeder was the topdecked creature, you'd simply need one more mana to combo off anyway. But Body Snatcher could deal with the problem of drawing any of the other creatures.
wow that add was fantastic. a masterpiece. I will legit listen to that multiple times lol
I didn't read all 310+ comments but has no one mentioned *Exquisite Blood +Sanguine Bond* ?! I'm not a huge fan of playing mono black OR Orzhov personally but there's a few different creatures that could be used for one of the pieces of this combo. So many options to get the cards into play quickly/efficiently , even in Commander. If you're playing Orzhov you can double down and add another game winning combo with *Teysa, Orzhov Scion + Darkest Hour + Blasting Station* I even added this one to my (whatever you prefer to call) White/Black/Green, Insects "Death by a 1000 Bites" commander deck.
While not broken by your standards, a fun combo I have in my commander deck is Muldrotha as commander, and then Riftsweeper. Ignoring exiles was never easier. Of course Riftsweeper is then a risky linchpin, but given I’ve got blue in the deck it’s not the hardest thing to keep protected.
Leyline of the void and helm of obedience was crazy to see for the first time!
My pet peeve with Thoracle is that I've had my eyes on consultation for YEARS and right when I was thinking "I should by one" it made it spike way and I mean WAY beyond reason
My favourite combo is with Mizzix of the Izmagnus. With at least 6 experience counters and 4 red mana, you cast Electrodominance where X=6, then while its on the stack cast Reiterate with the Buyback. Reiterate resolves, goes back to your hand, resolve the copy of Electrodominance, dealing 6 damage to something and casting Reiterate for free from the copy. Repeat till satisfied.
I just remember playing Niv-Mizzet for the first time against friend in EDH and he hadn't know the dragon yet, and I got Niv and Curiosity off on them, and I just got the dirtiest look. He asked me not to do that again. So then the next game I Ophidian Eye.. He asked me not to use that deck anymore.
I used to do the Niv + Ophidian Eye combo in standard back in those days. Never won a game when it mattered. But man it was a fun time. Especially using Gelectrodes with Ophidian Eye as a way to dig through my deck.
I feel Tolarian Acadamy should have gotten an honorable mention. Where it was not as cut and dry as a 2 cards combo the standard format (or type 2 for us mtg boomers) in 1998 was simply dominated by it. Hell it was quickly restricted even when standard had a restricted list. So consistent in winning by turn 3
My favorite combo that i like running is any ping niv combo. Miv mizzet, firemind or Parun, and ophidian eye/curiosity :)
I'm not surprised it's not on the list, but Stuffy Doll + Guilty Conscience is one of my favorite combos.
Hey Professor what do you think of Viscera seer + Malakir rebirth + Overwhelmed Apprentice?
It's insane how even the most overpowered combos in Magic are very pedestrian compared to the things done in modern YGO. It's the reason why I wanna get into Magic one day and why I only play older YGO.
So, this is a different interpretation of the word "broken" but I've always loved seeing the expression on people's faces the first time they encounter Eye of the Storm + Shahrazad
A slept on EDH combo (bc it's a bs amount of mana, unless you know how to ramp or cheese it somehow): Dynaheir, Invoker Adept + (any copy creature/permanent) + Door to Nothingness. Create a copy of Dynaheir, Tap both Dynaheirs to copy 4+ cost mana abilities twice, like Door to Nothingness' double wubrg mana ability, "Target player loses the game", now the non-copied Door + 2 copies make all 3 opponents lose.
The version of Flash Hulk that got it banned from cEDH is arguably even stronger, because it doesn't fold to creature removal. Named Breakfast hulk, it was a mix of flash hulk, Thassa's Oracle, and an old combo called Cephalid Breakfast. Here is the combo: Cast flash putting Protean Hulk into play and immediately saccing it to get a Hulk death trigger. Grab Nomads en-Kor, Cephalid Illusionist and Thassa's Oracle from your deck. When they enter the battlefield, Thoracle's trigger goes into the stack, and you activate Nomads en-Kor targeting Cephalid Illusionist. Nomads' ability cost zero and its effect is meaningless, but every time Cephalid is targeted you mill three cards. When you have no cards, and Thoracle trigger resolves, you win. If anybody tries to put literally any game action on the stack, proceed to put more Nomads activations on top of it, until you have enough to win anyway. The only way to stop this is either by stifling the Thoracle trigger or by making the person draw a card, but differently from a straight Thassa's Consultation win, you can do it on instant speed, as an answer to someone else's combo. Infact, the way the cEDH meta of its time developed, the only viable way to stop te win was to either counter the Flash, or wait for the hulk to die and ... cast your own flash hulk to win instant speed, with the opponent win on the stack.
Flash Hulk also has the relatively unique in Magic property of needing cards to remain in your deck to work, which is much more common in Yugioh. The Yugioh community calls cards you need for a combo but never want to draw Garnets, after Gem-Knight Garnet. Tinker Citadel has something similar but a Lotus can let you just cast the Citadel so it’s not as bad.
I like this combo. It doesn’t hold a candle to these but Rosie cotton and scurry oak hit the spot for me!
Not technically the combo, but it's still absolutely insane. Any non-Legendary copy, like mask of Memory, or kiki jiki + Ojer Taq goes hard, by the first turn, you're making 3^4 the number of creature tokens
My favorite combo is Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose. All you need to do once they're in play is either gain one point of life or have some opponent lose a point of life and you wipe all your opponents from the table. It's not as strong as the top two in your list here I guess. But it's near and dear to my heart because the first deck I designed and built for myself when I first got into magic was a Rakdos Vampire Tribal for Modern and I kinda discovered the combo by accident myself even tho it was well known in the community. Now I there isn't a single Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose in my collection without an Exquisite Blood or Hunger of the Ancients that can be potentially paired with it
personally, I like Kiora's Chosen with a Freed From The Real. put a Fertile Ground on an island, and that's infinate mana, as well as infinate untap a permanent! I have a deck based on that, with things like Archavist, Disruptive Pitmage, and Experimental Kraj.
I think Amalia and wildgrowth walker in pioneer is cool combo. I don't know if it's uber broken but it seems good on paper
Vengevine + Survival of the Fittest broke legacy for a while. I remember it being extremely consistant and you could either win by attacking for lethal or if they had something like moat in their deck you could combo kill with infinite triskellon damage.
not stupid broken or anything but i found a very fun commander combo with agent frank horrigan and railway breaker from thunder junction, railway breaker says whenever a creature other than it enters the battlefield it get +1/+1 counters equal to it's power, so you you plot away railway breaker til you have a haste enabler and one other way to proliferate cards, then you cast railway breaker for zero and cast frank horrigan wo says when this card enters the battle field or attacks proliferate twice. frank will enter, get 8 +1/+1 counters then proliferate those counters to 10, add your haste enabler and swing at an open player he proliferate twice again to 12 giving him a total commander hit of 20, activate your additional proliferate engine (I recommend plaguemaw beast sacrificing the railway breaker to avoid spending more mana) and you now have a one turn 21 damage swing for game or at the very least a very massive commander hit since frank has trample built into him.
My favorite combo is casting Niv Mizzet and enchanting it with Curiosity (or something along that line) if I spent the game building up my battlefield with double damage enchantments like Furnace of Rath and a few others each card drawn does damage exponentially. I personally like it because since it's limited to how many cards are in my deck it isn't infinite which feels more...idk...fair? Especially if I'm playing with a big group
Personal favorite combo right now is Niv-Mizzet Parun, Curiosity, and Psychosis Crawler
Does Dark Depths also work with one of the cards that stops etb effects?
Some of my favorite combos are animate dead world gorger dragon make infinite mana banefire or in commander exanguinate also love some reanimate sire of insanity
Another tolaria state combo video would be most appreciated.
I like winning with Polyraptor + Marauding Raptor + anything that deals damage whenever a creature you control ETBs
Instead of the last combo, I'd like to introduce a two, or three card combo: Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy Basalt Monolith Urn of Godfire
These combos are the reason a 5 mana uncommon counter spell is still a $50+ dollar card.
Carrion feeder is great! I really like the little guy.