2023 GWM Tank 300 on/off-road (inc. 0-100, braking & autonomy) review
How cool is the name Tank for a car?! The 2023 GWM Tank 300 is finally on sale in Australia and Paul Maric drives the Tank 300 both on-road and off-road, along with testing 0-100, 100-0 and autonomy.
Hardness tester, noise and lane keeping results: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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Intro: 00:00
Exterior: 01:06
Interior: 05:09
Infotainment: 06:33
Safety Tech: 08:12
Practicality: 09:11
On-road: 13:29
Performance: 20:31
Off-road: 23:02
Verdict: 32:17
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Hi Paul I watch your every videos and follow your ig cuz I think you are one of the best car reviewers in Australia and the reason for that is because you seem less bias and very informative. But this video had me questioning as to why this specific car had received more than 1 dedicated review video in such a short period of time? Is it an ad? And they weren't happy with the first one?
@@ishoman.alxndr Typically there are only a limited amount of vehicles to review and a brand like GWM will loan the same vehicle to a number of outlets. To ensure each outlet has time to edit their video they set a date when they are all allowed to be published. That's why you'll see lots of them go live at the same time.
hi. why don't you use slalom braking (braking with a detour of obstacles - cones) according to the prima, the tank tore off the rear wheels, but still showed a good result, when braking on a slalom it would be a failure
Hi Paul, not to be naive but how does the 4x4 system compares to the Isuzu Mu-X 4x4 as well as the interior quality?
Hi Paul, interested in the app used for your video. Please do share.
It's selling like hotcakes here in China for the past 3 years, people have tested in the 50°C desert, high altitude snow mountains, you can find nearly all kinds of terrain in China.
U live in China?
@@animalscars3799 Yes
How much is it in China
@@AdmissionGaming In China, the Tank300 premium version costs 330,000 yuan, or about 46,157 dollars, while the cheapest version costs 198,800 yuan, or about 27,694 dollars
@@AdmissionGaming Pretty much the same
It's really amazing how quickly Chinese cars have gone from really crappy to genuinely class competitive, even before you factor in their much cheaper prices
Because they steal and copy everyone else, and they are still pieces of absolute crap !!
Lmfao....clearly your delusional
What's more we are still talking about ICE cars and not EV yet.
not all chinese car are good. some manufacture as GWM is quite good for safety , offroad and pickup. but , you know ... some chinese brands are just....cheap.
@@kuyasingapore Did you watch the same video? I saw a car do a stoppie and specs that say 397kg payload. I wouldn't call that safe or useful for much more than mall crawling.
Nice review Paul.We took our Tank300 to the Bribie Island on the beach last weekend. It was a smooth ride for someone like me who never drove 4wd before.😊
Bribie Island? Glad to see it's kept its name. Unlike 'Fraser Island' 😭🤷♂️
Paul missed a very interesting add on. If you look at what’s under the cargo area, there’s 4 table legs which you can assemble with the cargo cover to create a camping table.
That’s cool!
So did CRV's from 20 years ago
@@Coopsoldman “The Honda CR-V after 2006 do not include the table”. That’s a great way to cut cost in addition to the outdated interior
Sensibly thinking, this Tank 300 ticks all the boxes. More so due to the fact it has really only just arrived and already, the reviews are in high praise. Just wait until the hybrid version comes with its thumping 258KW/615NMS of power and all for a measly $61k. SOLD!
61k may be measly to you 😖😂
61k for a Suzuki looking 4x4.? Bargain lol
Never considered a GWM before I saw this. I will definitely check this out in person. Looks great for the price. About time there was a bargain competitor in the boxy offroader segment.
I was test drive dual cabs last year and took the canon for a drive straight after driving a hilux. I couldn’t believe the hilux was 12k more. It’s absurd what GMW give you for the money, definitely something to look into.
I have the GWM 2022 Cannon and love it
@No_mans_flies I have a modified cannon and still come in under entry price of a Hilux, Ranger ect
Cannon ute is junk, though Tank is based on it. I'll take the Tank.
@@carrisasteveinnes1596 mate in my experience off road, my Cannon hasn't been in the poop, but has pulled out a lux and a ranger, these new models are far from junk
Love your car reviews Paul! I love that while you are honest about all the good and bad with these cars, you don't get stuck up on the shortcomings like some other popular reviewers. You helped me make a decision on my purchase recently so thank you and the team!
Had a drive of the Savage (GWM aftermarket specialists) modded Tank in Brisbane. Was very impressed with both the Tank and the mods.
Acutally, the traction control is activated by selecting the mods, after selecting POTHOLE mod, the traction control will actually work without the diff being locked.
Thanks for this info
I have noticed a trend with reviewers where they apparently leave the driving mode in normal i.e. tarmac and then drive over moguls or deep water and roll their eyes when the wheels spin or park distance sensors beep. Just choose the appropriate drive mode and then see what happens. It's not like this is a series one Landrover. If the vehicle has drive modes that tailor the traction control then use them, otherwise it gives the impression that they are trying to find problems where they don't exist.
Sorry, I realised that POTHOLE mode can only be activated when 4Low selected. Paul tested this one wheel lifting situation under 2H and 4H conditions.
They only work in low range.
After waiting for what feels like 3 years for the new Prado, the Tank may get the nod (especially at half the price). By the way, I love the orange haha
Prado is severely overrated and Toyota knows it, hence the price. The cheapest-feeling and most outdated car in it's segment while being the most expensive
I have test driven both the Tank 300 and the Toyota Prado. I am surprised to say that the Tank came out on top, not by a little, but a lot. I have told my dealer that I will order in December for collection early January. I am having quite a few extras fitted. One being a custom winch , which was crazy money but I will use it.Oh, by the way. I am going for the ORANGE paint job. 🙂
Cap.
Lol better than a Prado hahaha. What a joke…..
Seeing that back end lift when he braked didn't bother you at all. You would put your family in a car where to back end lifts off the ground if you have to brake hard. No thanks
@@reubenhooft541he's being pId to comment 100%
Ur on crack champ, can’t see how a car with plastic everything and fake Mercedes air vents will be better quality than a brand renowned for reliability and build quality but good luck
Paul big fan here. I wish car reviewers in my country could learn one or two things from you. They praise any car they are given. Good job man
They are supposed to praise any car they are paid to do review for. It's called paid marketing
GWM cars are best valued cars in australia at the moments, just booked mine
Had our Cannon Ute now 2 years, fantastic vehicle and not one problem. T300 and T500 are only going to make GWM a permanent top 10 player by next year 🤙
Drove one at a dealer two weeks ago. Super impressive!
You must be easily impressed then n never been a real car
@@stevelewis0106 have you driven one?
Test drove one myself and was very impressed
@@alexaeschthe rides a push bike!
lol@@stefenosthepom2649
Wow Paul so comprehensive. Very impressed with your review and the car, especially at this price point.
I have a GWM Haval H6 AWD 2022 and have been really impressed by the car. I expected the occasional quality issue and problem for such a well priced car, but none have eventuated. The GWM brand has been a real winner for me . I noticed the tech, screens and software appear the same as the Tank and that bloody lane keeping is infuriating. Must shuffle through the menus and be turned off at every start up otherwise it chirps away like a pokie jackpot and aggresively steers the car when you least expect it.
Have a look what ODB2 software options there are to change the settings permanently.. my cars all have annoying things I was able to disable using software on my phone and an odb2 dongle.
@@XXB4XX Thanks for the advice, I'll check out what this s and see what can be done.
Honest unbiased review. Great work Paul
Drove one today. The "drive by itself" feature is flawless! Just need to set it up correctly. No wheel movement at all!
If you can't drive and pay attention then don't use the drive by itself feature it's dangerous relying on software is not a good idea for you or for other people just order a taxi mate
Can always count on a good solid review from you Paul! Thanks, I was curious about the Tank and it looks like a great option.
Tanks for the video, Paul.
Lol
Excellent thorough review and quite an interesting mix of tried and true design with some electronic off road modes. I think it looks amazing. Wish I could trust its reliability and parts availability, but it's a brand new car yet. 400 litres of boot space is more than enough for me. I like it a lot.
One of the most popular off roader in China with hundreds of thousands models sold. After 2 years, all of the major issues have been solved. And it comes with 7 years warranty...
I think the boot space is just fine given the roof is so high that you could keep some of the stuff horizontally. Very impressed with this. I wish it came with a Diesel. Alas you cannot get everything.
Didn’t he say it came in diesel as well?
I do find it weird considering Australia seems to love diesel power plants, considering a lot of American variants have petrol options that we don't get, this does seem like a car that would suit a diesel too
@@fewfriesshort5593turbo petrol standard, hybrid soon to join the range
Apparently zero diesel available, but when the hybrid is available you won't wish for diesel as it delivers over 600nm & 270kw I think with even better fuel economy. It'll be phanominal and affordable.
@@ianweal3081 - I would be worried about the reliability of the hybrid
owned the 300 for nearly 3 years now, pretty good, looking forward for the PHEV version, might upgrade to it
What are the brand's of the 4x4 accessories companies supplying equipment.
@@kennethprocak5176 运良 Yun liang and GWM has partnered together made a lot of accessories, and even special versions of the 300
Just an update, I've already pre-ordered the Tank 400 Hi4-T
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Any defect or malfunction so far? What’s the mileage? And did you take it off-road?
Been waiting for this for a while.
After H6, GWM comin on strong! These guys will blow away the comp.
Looks awesome. I'm looking forward to the tank 500 PHEV. Could be a game changer
unfortunately come with rear diff lock only
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Wow.. didn’t expect that until watched this video, it’s a real beast!
Thank you from the heart, I am from Iraq and follow your excellent reviews, the best review for the Tank 300
I have a GWM Cannon X and I love it. I did notice the lane assist improved significantly after a software update as it was still running a bit of Chinese Road compatability and the update made a big difference. Only issue I have with the Cannon is they made a mess of the cup holder design. Fixed with an after market add-on.
what add on did you get for the cup holder issue? Thanks
Yeah please can you tell me where you got your add on? Thank you!
Thanks Paul, have waiting for this review for some time. I have bought one already, the daily driving is fantastic considering it’s a 4WD, very quiet cabin driven in the town. The flashing headlights is really bad. For the Active cruise, the steering struggles on the narrow road, but works very good on the highway. As expected, the traction control does not work well, but once diff locks engaged, it is very capable. I am happy with this car in this price tag. ❤
hows your fuel economy and also dealing with the GVM?
@@Jayeffhi have done 3000km so far, 12litres combined city/highway with OEM tyres, 13.5litres with 32inch AT tyres. No GVM upgrade on the market right now.
@@jeremyyang9895 thanks mate. That's quite high but it's a pretty heavy car!
Hi Paul, and from the outset, thankyou thankyou thankyou! I've been a tad critical of you not testing vehicles in correct modes off road in the past, but I do understand you can't obviously learn every feature on every vehicle in detail in the timeframe you have, I accept that. Pothole mode would have assisted cross axle traction problem you experienced. I've been perusing your site for a while now waiting this review as like you, I'm really impressed by this vehicle. The crawl feature, the turn feature both Toyota derived features implemented now in a vehicle half the cost, unsure about the petrol version but the hybrid version (as tested in Oz) has under vehicle view, a LR Defender feature. An oversite of a feature is, the rear cargo floor lifts out and that shiny aluminium package stored under it are fold out legs that clip into the base of the cargo floor turning the floor into a roadside picnic table. Also, rear door has moulded hooks for hanging items off, someone really thought out practical options for a off road vehicle here, congrats GWM. Whats it missing? Luggage/storage for distant outback touring & payload to suit also. GWM will have to lift their game though, as I've been to two dealers in NSW, neither could explain the "Expert Mode" button, one saying "the button that looks like a blue bottle", don't know. The other describe it as a haval H6, well basically it's the same vehicle, WHAT!!!! How do they expect to sell them if staff are so oblivious? Not able to test drive in NSW at either dealer, as there is an issue registering "The Tank" with NSW RMS. One dealer has my details, he'll notify me as soon as one is registered for road use, amazingly we don't live in a country as covid demonstrated, we live in seperate states, approved by everyone except NSW RMS. Ineous Grenadier has recently shaken up the 4WD industry, well now its GWM making headway, this is an awesome truck. Much talk of a 5 door Jimny coming, truly Suzuki, its too late, this tank will dominate the compact 4WD segment IMHO.
I was waiting for this review! Cheers
Hi Paul, Love your videos, just thinking if you make your own music, you can do a speaker test. It'll be great for people who love their sounds and curious how well they sound!
Looks like great value for money, the interior really surprised me. Looks like a nice place to be.
Fantastic review. I only watched as my neighbour has just brought one😁. The orange colour looks great after the sun has gone down. Thanks for a brilliant review
Best review ever. Thank you!
I've seen one of these, and they look stunning!
I've seen one in a video in a matt khaki colour, and another in a brighter light green colour, they are stunning
I'm very impressed,it's surely to consider 👍
This tank looks great loved
Thanks for the review 👍
Tank 300 is a solid choice, but my money goes for Tank 500 hybrid - the true offroad beast.
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The front looks very much like a ineos grenadier. I think this is going to be the hero car for GWM
already is, 200,000+ sold in China since 2020
Thats was a excellent review🙂thanks
beautiful, cant wait!!
Think it looks the nuts , excellent kit , more importantly off road is impressive
I wish the tests done on a bunch of SUVs and Pickup were in a previous episode...that any future SUV will test, Cylinder Test 10%, Wheelbase Endurance Test, Airlift Tire Torque Distribution Test, Easier Testing To climb a hill, try to climb a hill full of small stones... I hope there will be a test to climb a sandy hill... These tests will be great and be a reference for many people, and let's see how car companies improve their weaknesses in these trials
love it can't wait to book a test drive for it
Great review as always Paul.can you continue the GWM trend and review the new cannon XSR in the future
Yeah, wow, good to have other competing cars in these segment's, great for us consumers anyway. Thank Paul. I would love to know your performance app you guys use
CarExpert : this Tank still looks better than the Mercedes G class which really should move from its origin Puch design. The TANK at least looks like a modern shaped box....just like the Jeep Rubicon or even slightly better.
You only think it looks better than a G-Wagen because you can't afford one of them, whereas the Tank is affordable :) Given the choice I'd take the G every time, preferably the army one.
@@einfelder8262 G Wagon is for old dudes with bellies and old football wifes. It's fugly....but it does have better and more logically powerful engine choices. This TANK looks sexy like a small tank....but it fails with me when it comes to the fact that it has a 2 litre Inline4 Turbo engine from a puny VW Golf. And you, if you like the G wagon, then youre probably yourself a poor and fugly middle aged dude that is only ranting here because you know that you missed out on your opportunities in life :).
Tesla, apple, merc are just brands that are way over priced.
@@universallife681 and of equal build quality than Asian brands and definitely of much lower reliability than Asian brands.
Can't wait for your Tank 500 review.
what a great review. thanks for reviewing a low spec affordable model - an orange one is on my shopping list
I think this tank could be a threat to a Jimny ngl
It's lack of payload limits it's appeal to Prado buyers, I'd say. But you're right: not a whole lot more than a Jimny for acres more space and comfort. Might even help bring Jimny prices back down to reality!
Nothing can de-throne the Jimny as the mini 4b! This is double the mass and waay larger so it isn't in the same class 😅
Too true. I was looking at getting a Jimny and this is a way better value buy considering all the extras and features you get.
@@XxXloltasticXxX but it ain't a Jimny!
I would buy this in a heartbeat over a Jimny, I'm a big Suzuki fan, but that thing is a death trap on the road and the size is totally unusable.
for a weekend warrior like me, it is definitely good enough especially at this price point. The after sales and service will be very interesting tho
oh yeah been hoping for this, was gonna book an order for the tank border if it ever comes here
Awesome review, thanks. Is reduced payload an issue for the petrol version?
Currently living in China and here there are a whole lot of after Market accessories for off-roading as well as Body kits, I would definitely buy this. lol coming from a Pajero and Prado fan...
Very interesting vehicle. Love the colour!! Shame I don't think we are offered it in the UK. Why didn't you use low range on the mogul test? Seems odd to only use high range.
As always very well detailed review. Are you gonna do the TANK 500 review next ? 🤔
G'day Paul. Love your work! I think you hit thè spot on the Mahindra Pikup.
hey Paul good video , umm the orange/ red is awesome ! good colour for on road , a lot better than undercoat grey .
try adjusting the lane keep feature to center keeping, huge improvement without steering to the side. I can even drive hands free on my H6. They literally ue the same L2+ lane keeping system.
Lifting rear wheels is scary mate! Your channel is the first to pick it up
Thanks for the hugely comprehensive review. The Tank 300 seems really competent. The only potential concern could possibly be the lane assist system, but if that could be easily disabled I think the vehicle is an an absolute winner and great value for the money.
GWM are really showing how absurdly overpriced the traditional brands are
Yeah especially Prado prices. Toyota is taking the piss these days.
Helps when your company are owned by the state and that there's a massive drive for China to replace Japan as Asia's leading automotive nation. Oh and having cheaper labour and taxes defniately help too.
@@Cust0mBuilder GWM is privately owned... And all Toyota models are basically doubling in price every few years while being the exact same car. They simply know people will eat them up no matter how expensive and crap they get. That's the main reason behind the price difference, stop trying to defend their greed.
@@yissibiiyte really doubling every few years?
A Mitsubishi Pajero Sport can be bought for around the same price.
it seemed ok, right up to the part where there's only a 397kg payload for petrol and 440kg for hybrid. take away down ball weight of 250kg (max tow 2500kg) and that only leaves payload of 2 persons.
What do you mean by Ball weight? How do you calculate the payload? For example me and my wife as passenger and driver are 130kg how much left for the payload for this vechicle?
Hi Paul, great review. I was wondering if anytime soon you will be doing a review of the limited edition Cannon-X?
It's somewhat connected. Hey Paul, I bought a Fiesta ST in 2020. largely based on your very first vid, in this format/channel (amongst others). I have enjoyed ther heck out that car but now, Ironically, I'm trading it in for one these Tank 300's. Meanwhile, the war between impractical cars in my garage has been waged, and then comprehensively won . The Fiesta goes, The Tank300 comes, and the excellent, updated BRZ stays. Appreciate your many, many reviews Paul. 🙂
I don't think I've ever been even mildly excited about a GWM .. wow .. I'm conflicted. lol. For the money this thing craps all over the mux and pajero sport.. its got a modern interior and its 15,000 aud less!
Agreed. But isuzu diesel engine is known for its reliability. Only time can tell.
Perfect size for me I'd buy one over any of the current over priced offerings. Looking forward for you to do a review on the hybrid model.😊
Just don't hit the brakes hard on a bend. Or tow. Or load it past its 397kg rating.
@@siraff4461 There's always one idiot comment.
For 50K and 7 years unlimited kms warranty this is amazing. Im just waiting to see how the resale value holds-up, im not expecting Land Cruiser level but unless they don’t half in price after a year I will be putting my order at the end of year.
love it....thank you
I've waited SO long for your Tank review 🙏. I saw one of the first versions at my local dealer a few months ago, the only thing that disappointed me was the boot space, it just seemed way too small for a car like this tbh, which is disappointing for those with prams etc
who cares
tank500
Wait tank 500
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tank500 or tank400
The front looks sort of like the UAZ Hunter 469. Nice looking vehicle 👍🏾
it looks beautiful
Thing looks massive!
…Y62 owners will be salivating at that dash…
Haha! Y62 owners would drool over a stone tablet.
Very impressive indeed,,,,for that price it's a steal
really cool suv looks great and looks capable
This vehicle looks AWESOME
That sneaky look when you did the door close test said it all 😂
i personally really like the Jeep-type look, very rugged and utilitarian, but with it not being an actual Jeep I feel a lot more confident knowing it will be in my possession a whole lot more than it will be in the shop for repairs. I've had nothing but good experiences with my GWM's and I fully intend to go test this when it lands in my area.
Actually it looks more like a Bronco
Hey there buddy, great video. Can I ask how does it compare to the Suzuki Jimmny off and on road. I love the idea of extra room in the Tank, but wondering on 4WD ability. I’ve owned 3 Suzukis over the years, and love the off road capabilities, but hate the small engine and space. So really eager about this Tank. Mainly because of price.
Infotainment is the same as what they have in the H6. Thanks for the horn test.
This what xtrail should have looked like after the t31 model but they made it softer
No matter you love it or not, the market needs Chinese brand. They control their price, and try to give you as many fancy functions as they can.
Just curious, but did you notice any thudding in the front suspension when doing the corrugation section? I have an H6 3rd gen, and if you go over a traffic calming bump too fast (20km/h), it sounds like something is going to break in the front suspension, particularly on the left hand side wheel. My vehicle has done 15000km, and an independent check revealed that all four shocks on my SUV need replacing. The dealer then took the same model vehicle with only 2000km on the clock, and it's front shocks were also needing replacement as they failed the test. Would love some comments regarding this. Another issue I have is that there is no motion sensor in the vehicle, so anyone can break a window and steal whatever they want, and no warning will be given. PS. Glad to see they have added a light to the cubby hole.😇
This car is currently a hit in Russia in this category. Very very nice car. Great off-road capabilities, easy chip tuning to make this thing even faster. 1 downside compared to Tank 500 is suspension. Tank 500 is so much better on bad roads. Anyway, amazing car.
Wow the rear end lifted at braking 😮 so unstable with that soft suspension. I’d like to see an emergency switch lane test.. this thing should flip. Great review Paul as always.
Yep its total junk
what happens when its tuned for off roading instead of picking up groceries.
@@stevelewis0106 with the price and offroad abilities, toyota is rubbish
I mean it’s 5 star ancap safety rating🤷🏻♂️
@@fablehaven3653 Does that involve a brake test? If I see a car do a stoppie when braking I don't need a rating to tell me all I need to know about its "safety". Having all the electronic nonsense to stop people texting from hitting the car infront is all well and good but when its obviously unstable that should be a big mark down. Imagine that round a bend or over a crest. Or towing.
I'll bet that quite a few guys my age (if they're honest with themselves) will remember what we first thought of Japanese cars.
Good point
Are you going to review the hybrid version now being generally available?
Looks and functional I would buy it
Great value for $$. Very solid car
Sat in and looked over one today. I was surprised how good it was. I wouldn’t buy one yet, I think the problems will come and be fixed on the next gen. I’d rather buy a rexton for the same money who are proven and established. Good job though GWM, this for the money shows just how bad Ford, Toyota and a few others are at ripping off there customers. The prado and Everest are way way way overpriced.
actually, tank300 has tested in china for over 3 years. many people bring them to tibet(over 4000~5000m above sea level), desert, -40℃ condition for hardcore off-road. and they have reported each problem on the internet. i think what you get in australia should have fixed most problems.
@@akltom Wow, that's amazing for this TANK to perform this condition.
Toyota is a luxury brand now, it is the same as posche
Thank you for the off road test! Can you do off-road comparison between Mahindra vs Tank?
That's pretty impressive
I love this thing. Would be a hard choice between this and the XSR GWM Ute.
Lol 😂
I’d be surprised if ARB do much at all for this thing.
Only you guys have a hard on for ARB, don't mean much in the rest of the world.
@kennethprocak5176 well considering its a review for a far that's going to be sold in Australia,probably written by an Australian it's a perfectly valid statement.
ARB wouldnt touch this piece of crap
Savage Tech in Brisbane already have lift kits and much more for this T300, and at much better prices than ARB would ever offer.
@@kennethprocak5176 I own nothing made by ARB.
Saw 1 at shopping centre,looks great, think quality getting better..