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The Sole Survivor does have pre-war memories. Tons of them, they remember baseball's rules, Greygarden's pre-war scientist, their military service/law degree (depending on your gender), and even pre-war robots know the Sole Survivor's identity.
Strange. I wonder why they tell Dima that the last thing they remember is the bombs falling? Interesting.
@@LunarLegendsG probably meant the most major thing
@@LunarLegendsG I have a few answers. To support the SS as a synth: Baseball is one of the SAFE test questions. Us knowing all the positions of baseball would suggest that test is close to working. The robots could have all been hacked by the institute. The meta answer: The Synth theory got popular before Far Harbor came out and Bethesda chose a memory that would kind of soft retcon the SS's history. To support the SS being human: Bethesda chose memories every player character had to go through before getting to far harrbor. Everything else listed as memories is stuff you may not have encountered in a palythrough yet.
There's also the fact about the Vault-Tec ghoul that recognizes the Sole Survivor
@@MultiGabi101 He's only recognizing the face of someone prewar. That one can go either way since the SS can claim to not remember them.
“As God as my witness, none of you will be spared.” Is one of the coldest lines in fallout
Honestly it's probably the most accurate interpretation I've heard.
Very fitting for the coldest motherfucker in all of Fallout.
The vault boy thumb has now been made canon by the show. Which is pretty cool👍🏻
The hiding in a fridge too.
In FO4, it's stated that Kellogg was instructed to not re-freeze anyone BUT the SS.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I thought they just straight out say that they terminated them.
I think the cat vault part is referencing a theory that the reason cats only appear in fallout 4 despite being extinct is because there might have been a vault that was only full of cats near or in boston, my personal theory is that the vault in the subways that the triggermen use isn't actually unfinished but was barebones because it was meant for cats.
Makes sense, the Overseer was some random homeless guy if I remember correctly.
Or they are being cloned like the Gatorclaws
They may have come from vault 81. Not as an experiment, just being there. The little girl you meet there has one.
The whole cats being extinct thing only comes from House, from what I remember, who has limited data outside the Mojave. It’s similar to how horses are meant to be gone too. Both animals are too important for human survival to have allowed to die off. Cats are a form of pest control that were historically used for protecting grain and food supplies. Horses are obviously ideal for traversal, but also farming and such! Farms would absolutely have both.
@@TheMelancholicWriter Horses aaren't gone. Developers said they didn't include them in New VEgas because players would epect to be able to ride them (They wanted the NCR rangers and LEgion to have some). Horses are alive and well, just not seen in game.
9:27 Kellog says when he kidnapped Shaun: "No idea why we didn't refreeze the rest of them. But. I guess that is jusr the old man's orders. Luckly. We have a back up for Pre-war DNA if it goes wrong."
Maybe the mysterious stranger is a product of holographic technology (Big MT technology), like the security guards at the Sierra Madre, built into the pipboy.
Oooh that’s a good one.
it is heavily implied though that the mysterious stranger has an actual biological son that you can meet in the game (the lonesome drifter). He references his behavior and it is reinforced by the fact that you can get the mysterious strangers gun from him (playing his theme whenever you draw it).
@@ralfzischka5973I figured more he was a protagonist of his own adventure that just wandered by Like if you walked by and see an npc get attacked
I think when the game guide describes the Mysterious Stranger as eldritch, it might be worth nothing that it might not be calling him a literal eldritch god, but eldritch means weird or ghostly, which describes the Mysterious Stranger quite well. I think people just took the wording to be literal, thus starting the theory.
I'd argue you need to find a different adjective other than eldritch to describe someone who is "weird, sinister, or ghostly" in a game with Lovecraft inspirations.
@@AshleyWilliamsN7 Yeah no, I'm with you on that one. There are other words for things and I believe it's just horrible foresight by the person that wrote that bit out. But at the same time, I still think people are quick to take things literally.
@@Garinovitch Yes I'm also of a belief that this was a writing blunder, using a exotic sounding word instead of a much blander "mysterious" "spectral" describer. And it just so happens that eldritch has only one, very specific meaning in a story with Lovecraftian elements.
9:35 I always took the life support "failure" of the cryopods to be the Institute purposely tying up the loose ends of other Vault Dwellers a la Kellogs memories
Yeah, I think that is definitely the implication towards father keeping you on ice.
Given that they wanted prewar DNA though I kinda doubt it. Shaun was the best choice, but the rest were all a contingency.
@@LunarLegendsG I think it's more along the lines that the institute originally kept you alive as a backup in case say Shawn died and they needed more DNA. However since Shawn was successful in the process of creating gen 3s they don't really need his DNA anymore as such they just left the vault to fall apart it's more than likely Sean purposely had your cryopod preserved when the others failed.
"He died because the cryo pod failed 😔😔😔" "Sir he has a bullet hole in his chest" "Shame theese machines are so unreliable "
@@TheMelancholicWriter but Institute is dumber than bricks, them just ignoring their own goals to pointlessly murder valuable people seems a lot like them thanks Todd, none of the factions have even a grain of intelligence
Had my own theroy for dogmeat. Always imagined him to be the player's spirit guide.
I like that one. Makes him seem even more majestic.
problem is that you can get a junkyard dog that looks relatively healthy.
Something to think about what if dogmeat is one of the synth animals the institute makes i mean Shaun wanted you to find the institute he purposefully guided you to find the institute what if he sent dogmeat to find you and help you track Kellogg or maybe there something disproving this that I don't know about.
@@KevenIdiotII and dogmeat doesn't take radiation damage and is not mutated. He's probably a cyborg since stims work on him
@@ivanquiles4903and he doesn't die by getting shot and explosion, he just whimpers in pain knocked out
Fallout 76 actually does get referenced in fallout 3. You can find terminals which mention vault 76 and its mission.
Bro i just finished fallout 3 for the first time last week and that terminal with vault 76 and 13 blew my fucking mind, i played the fallout series backwards from 76-3
Guys this was years and years ago. Fallout 76 is more likely a different universe. Many of it makes no sense and is just a broken MM game. Anyone can go back to a game to just reconnect things to trick others.
@@z304legendthat’s very true, fallout 76 doesn’t have to be considered canon
Where do you find it?
@@Chukedmore than likely there’s only bits and pieces they’ll hold on to. Should probably just consider most of it fluff to keep players engaged for a long time.
If Fallout 76 is a simulation then it really explains the glitches and bugs in the game.
A theory that literally makes 76 not cannon is wild. I support it 100%.
76 redcon things from the original fallout so fuck it, almost looks like game revisionism so 76 is heresy
@MOMOMARMAR (MOOPH) that doesn't disprove the theory, simulations of real things are not that far fetched
Second that one I don't think we'll get they lucky though
Don't think 76 is fake or not canon, but I do think that something happens to the region which erases it before they can be any influential input on the east coast. Lets do a rundown a disease that they create a semi cure inoculation to that could mutate as they used ghoul dna as part of the synthesis in creating it, several mutations including newly created ones like mole miners, scorched, mothman, strangle vines, all of these were once human or can control humans. Then there is Modus and the nukes which could erase the region of the map like the divide on a larger scale. The final thing is the brotherhood in the game basically commits treason twice the first group gets wiped out by the scorched the second cuts contact with the west coast both could lead to a cleanse from them, or the secret service in the one vault being a loose end to the enclaves claim leading to a mop up as well.
*canon
With the Wizard of Oz thing, it’s just a coincidence kind of. There’s a thing in storytelling called “the heroes journey”. It is a base that you build your story off of. I don’t remember it off the top of my head right now as I learned it in the film class back in seventh grade but a lot of old stories and stories of new continue to follow the heroes journey just not to a t.
The Mysterious Stranger is an urban legend. In all my years of playing different FO games I've never once seen him. I submit that since the only people who've claimed to see him have deliberately chosen a perk to do so he is nothing more than a figment of their imagination or a symptom of something psychological going on within their own minds.
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That’s a pretty cool theory, I’ve never looked at it that way. The Mysterious Stranger really could be a hallucination or something only seen by the main character. Does Nick Valentine see him though?
@@biterface03 Nick does see him judging by gameplay footage, he obviously has the perk as well.
I've believed for a while now that the mysterious stranger is a side effect from the pip boy itself In a world where everything comes with something underhanded, it could be understandable that the pip boy comes with something...a bit off After all, it was made by vault tec
But what about the fact that Nick says when he appears and claims he also sees him, he has special dialogue specifically claiming that he has seen him before and asked many others about him
Regarding the sole survivor is a synth theory, I don’t see why Shawn wouldn’t just say our synth code to shut us down before we destroy the institute. I don’t think he’d let the institute be destroyed for the sake of his experiment
There is a small in-game evidence for the "multiple Lanius" theory: in lore his face is disfigured, that's why he has to wear a mask. But if you actually kill him and take off his mask, he isn't?! According to Joshua Sawyer this was only "engine limitations", except that's literally not true. You can easily give an NPC a custom race with a custom face texture (like the dirty skin of raiders) or a custom head mesh (like the beast races in Oblivion, same engine). Also you can just give him a hideous face in seconds of messing around with the sliders. If he said "time limitations" I'd have believed it more. So if Lanius is some nondescript guy with a pseudonym, then he is very replaceable.
Woah, very cool. That’s super interesting. They could have slapped a ghoul head on him even just to make him disfigured. Super sus.
Joshua Graham has a disfigured texture under his bandages, so this theory holds even more credence
I'm pretty sure what Sawyer meant by "engine limitations" is that every extra race they added to the game further put a strain on the limited hardware memory they had to work with in the console versions of the game. This became an issue in Honest Hearts, where they planned to have multiple races for each tribal type but had to cut them all down to just one each. Having a whole extra race just for one character that you'll only see for five seconds at the end of the game just didn't make sense when they were working on such a razor's edge of console hardware limitations. EDIT: As an aside though, there IS evidence for the theory in actual, ingame lore - there's two different conflicting origin stories for Lanius, and both of them conflict with what Joshua Graham tells you about Lanius (specifically, that he never heard of him and has no idea who he is).
Joshua Graham. Is suppose to be disfigured and so on. But isnt.
@@jerichowolf8050 At least Graham doesn't have the standard pristine face texture. His "disfigurement" is very stylized (it looks more sooty than burned) but at least there is something at all.
New Vegas also has it's own female variant of Mysterious Stranger - Miss Fortune who don''t kill but paralized enemies.
Yeah I kind of added her into the mysterious stranger theory by saying that they sometimes show up as female. Its true that they are technically different characters but sometimes people theorize they're the same. Thanks for watching!
Pam is a reference to harlin ellinson and the story ,,I have No mouth and I must Scream". Humans used an AI to Fight the third world war. The machines are each referred to as "AM", which originally stood for "Allied Mastercomputer", but was changed to "Adaptive Manipulator" and upon gaining sentience, "Aggressive Menace". It finally refers to itself as purely "AM", referring to the phrase "I think, therefore I am." And it genocided most of humanity
The mysterious stranger being mark is actually a really good theory. In the first 2 fallouts he wears leather armor and uses different weapons but then he wears a trenchcoat in later games. So in the first 2 games he doesn't realize he's immortal yet so he thinks he needs armor and needing to move fast he wears lighter armor. Then after he realizes he's invulnerable he decides to make it fun with a costume and persona, hence the trenchcoat and revolver.
If Lorenzo and aliens exist, then we can rule out that Mark possibly got an artifact during his adventures, (question is what and where is the artifact in him ? The gun is not the factor since he gave it to his son in fnv and we still see him young in f4.) This could also explain why he still wears leather for protection and in the later years, adapt a mysterious persona with a trench coat and a magnum like those pre war shows.
I like the mysterious stranger just being a random person that happens to be around helping you out more than it being an eldritch being. I mean that's what your luck is for, you are so lucky that a random person decided help you on your fight before running away, makes you more unique than just another person living in the post apocalypse.
That's how I feel. He's just a stranger that catches your eye from time to time.
A stranger wouldn't only help if you turned on a perk, and wouldn't only show up during VATS. But a VATS assisted pip boy program? That would behave EXACTLY that way. The stranger is just a program in your pip boy to enhance VATS
8:24 if the Sole Survivor was a Synth they wouldn't be effected by radiation at all
Synths are affected by radiation in game and in lore They are however unable to age, get fat, or get pregnant However synths are also are suppose to survive with out sleeping or eating but still feel the psychological effects of both. Since the SS could die from not eating in survival mode I doubt the theory
The Wizard of Oz thing is basically connecting dots via generalizations. You can make weird cases for things that have nothing to do with each being connected by creating lists of shared characteristics.
A lot of this top tier seems like this. A bunch of fan theories we all heard before that don't make real sense if you think about it for 10 minutes longer than your time to make it up.
If that's true, then how do you explain that Dark Side Of The Moon syncs up perfectly with every playthrough of New Vegas?
I have a small theory... No-bark used to live in Nipton, but he escaped the legion, he's extremely paranoid, and we can find a house on nipton filled with traps, heavily "fortified", everything (including the fridge) is locked, there is a dead body in there... but not from a wastelander, but from a legion recruit, stung many times by radscorpions?, one of the traps contains two of them, maybe part of his paranoia is related to him escaping Nipton, I'm not 100% sure if it's a viable theory, there might be some kind of evidence about someone else living in there, but I hadn't found any yet
Wasn't he living in Novac for a long, long time?
Wasn’t the Nipton massacre a recent endeavor, like as you walked by they just finished slaughtering people
@@nathanielgarza9198 The massacre, yes, the Legion "staying" there, nope, if I remember correctly the people in Nipton didn't care who came by, as long as they meant money, they didn't care, the idea of Nobark realizing this and "preparing" (due to his paranoia) from the first "signs" is still very possible, also, as I said, we never find the body of whoever lived there, instead we see a dead member of legion, meaning the person who lived there most likely managed to escape
@@DharGez the way they talked about him it seems that No Bark lived there for quite awhile As in long enough where everyone knows who he is and to have his own shack full of propaganda I mean the legion showing up still was a recent enough event in comparison
Don’t all cats in fallout 4 originate from the common ancestor of cats from vault 81 that were used as test animals? Since the experiment never went into effect because the staff felt it was too unethical then those cats were likely taken as pets but some escaped when the vault opened.
Wait i thought it was obvious that cristine and Veronica where lovers
I’m surprised that the theory of vault tec starting the war wasn’t on here also I remember that if you kill the lonesome drifter you will pick up a revolver that when you bring out makes the same sound that the mysterious stranger does when they show up
You don't have to kill the Lonesome Drifter to get the Mysterious Magnum, he'll give it to you if you recruit him to perform at the Tops theater during a side quest.
The non-canon 76 made the first theory canon because we can't have nice things in life
I think the Cat Vault idea/theory has to do with the points you mentioned; cats were believed to be extinct, but since they are present in Fallout 4, they mightve come from a Vault? I don't remember ever hearing more about it or evidence for it, but I suppose that makes a bit more sense for the theory at least 🤷🏻♀️
Ohhh that would make a lot of sense. They aren’t extinct because of a vault in the commonwealth full of them. Cool theory.
@Lunar Legends Gaming If nothing else, the idea of a cat filled vault alone makes me want it to be true, haha. I hope we find or get some evidence some day ^^ Awesome channel by the way! I stumbled on this video but was scrolling through the rest and saw game after game I love too, so youve got a new subscriber! Keep up the good work! 😊
if an old lady's cat survived, then many others definitely survived. Testimony can be wrong. There's no way some people wouldn't take their cats with them into the vaults, or that at least some vaults did not have provisions to keep and breed pets, or even livestock.
Cats were domesticated for rodent control, so they would have been useful to keep rats out of a vault's food supply and fields after going back to the surface.
@@LunarLegendsG when Fallout 4 first came out it was stated both in Fallout 2 and the New Vegas that cats were extinct and we're complaining that Bethesda potentially retcon this or that it's a plot hole. People theorized that cats survived because there's a vault specifically for them. However the more likely answer is that since the East Coast wasn't hit as hard as the West Coast people didn't have to resort to eating their cats.
There are actually 3 Pint Size Slasher masks hidden around Point Lookout. I used to collect unique items in F3, and I found 3 there. Ik theres one hidden in a cave, the one you mentioned, and I forgot the last location. But you can definitely acquire 3 there, or could. I haven’t played in years, but I for sure had 3 of them because I would grab em every play through and would stash one in different player homes depending on the play through, but each was used as decorations I’d hand place. I found 2 so far for the F4 point look out mod. Haven’t found the 3rd yet, but I refuse to look at a guide. I love hunting for things. But maybe even they missed it and that’s why I cant find it. I’m almost sure there was a way you could get a 4th one not in Point Lookout, but I forget, definitely 3 though. I’ll put my left nut on it.
Imo it's demonstably false that the Sole Survivor (SS) is a synth. Here's why: 1. The piece of dialogue with DiMA just seems hamfisted to give certain players more roleplay opportunities; it doesn't make sense that he doesn't remember stuff before the Great War in that dialogue because he remembers things in other dialogue: - his division and rank/her law degree - having escapade with an ugly person in college - sitting too close to the TV as a child - the rules of baseball - Edward Gray, the pre-war creator of Graygarden - John-Caleb Bradburton, the pre-War inventor of Nuka-Cola - Nate's grandfather's service in WWII - US history when meeting Preston Garvey, the robots at the USS Constitution, etc. - pre-War comic book characters like the Silver Shroud and Mechanist 2. Being able to use VATS before getting the Pip-Boy is easily explained away as a dev oversight. Y'all know Bethesda, right? Also, they would have had to plan to reveal the SS as a synth in a DLC on release and put in this tiny little thing to hint it beforehand. 3. SS has to eat, drink, and sleep (in survival mode). I believe there's some dialogue stating that these are unnecessary for synths. 4. The SAFE test at Covenant didn't detect that he was a synth, and it was shown to possibly be accurate. 5. The Institute, including Shaun, views synths as nothing more than machines with no free will or real emotion. It is unlikely that he would be so warm to SS and also have him appointed as Director if he were a synth. You could perhaps argue without evidence that the previous Director did it and expunged records of it and therefore Shaun didn't know, but that would fall apart in my next point. 6. Why would SS be a synth? What purpose would that serve for the Institute? They needed the real SS alive as a backup. It would be weird if one day they came back and were like yeah lets turn him into a synth and shove him in there for eternity. It's not like they had a plan to release SS one day, that was Shaun's unilateral decision.
In fallout 2 if your character has a high enough intelligence level you can actually call out Myron's supposed invention of Jet with the reason being that it's extremely easy for anyone to figure out that using methane can be made into a drug. Myron probably used empty pre war era jet syringes and the name just stuck.
I love spreading misinformation on the Internet There is just no such check in the game. Myron plainly tells you to fuck yourself unless you want to continue listening to his bull shit(badum-tss) story
Realizing that a lot of people who complain about the lore haven't actually played the previous games.
There’s way too much evidence to the contrary when it comes to the idea the Sole Survivor is a Synth.
It’s a theory that has to reach so far up it’s own ass just to pull out a reason with zero evidence to back it.
Considering the story is “””inspired””” by BladeRunner I would be surprised if that wasn’t the case
I'm surprised that there are two well-known theories that didn't make the iceberg: Fallout and Skyrim exist in the same universe and Dogmeat is a synthetic companion left at the Red Rocket to meet the Sole Survivor should they leave Vault 111. Fun fact: the name Dogmeat and a dog as a post-apocalyptic companion is a reference to the film A Boy and His Dog. The film is a big source of Fallout references.
35:19 that was already known. I'm not an expert, but way before Cain's video I've found various discussions on subreddits on Fallout Lore that talked about the vaults being preparation for space travel as an already known fact. And I think I remember it being referenced in-game various times.
the fact that the vault boy thumb has been proven in the fallout show by cooper hawerd after it was debunked is pretty cool
Haha I keep seeing people comment about it and I’m like “I made this way before the show”! But yeah it’s really cool. Thanks for watching.
I'm a big Fallout nerd but I haven't heard of many of these theories before, so awesome work on the video!!
Also, No Bark has a necklace that is essentially a gear that looks suspiciously like a vault door
The game supports that the sole survivor is a synth but disapproves of it, certain small aspects within dialogue and also brotherhood questline, along with encounter with father, but other details that you pointed out do support it, it's a hard thing to decide.
No Bark Noonan is my fav character in Fallout NV,he's definetly the Fallout 2 chosen one.And he found the perfect place to settle down,right next to strategic locations like Helios One,Repconn test site etc.
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Dogmeat is from "A Boy and his Dog" a movie that a large portion of the fallout universe is based off of. You could literally rename the movie "Fallout" and it would make perfect sense.
This isn't entirely accurate. Although that film is very "Fallout aesthetic," the dog in question is named 'Blood' (although Vic does call him 'Dogmeat'). But since Dogmeat's original owner was a "man all in black leather...carrying a shotgun" which is obviously a reference to Max Rockatansky, and his physical appearance is much closer to "Dog's" than to Blood's (and the fact that he can't, you know, telepathically communicate with the protagonist) it feels more like a melange than that Dogmeat is outright "from" one series or another. Fact of the matter is, in the apocalypse, people need dogs, because dogs are Very Good Boys.
I appreciate how well you explain everything, this is some great stuff man!
Glad you enjoy it! I appreciate you watching.
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The mysterious stranger could be based on a lovecraftian god known as hastor or the king yellow as he’s more famously known. Hastor isn’t really evil compared to the rest more like ironically mischievous.
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Wow that’s genuinely the nicest comment I’ve ever had. Thanks so much man, really appreciate you watching!
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I don't know why the sole survivor said he just remembered the days the bomb dropped. Maybe because it's the first memory that comes to mind since it's the most traumatic, cuz he talks about remembering Nuka World pre-war. So dima clearly is just trying to get you doubt yourself.
I like to think every faction that possibly ccould have started the nuclear war, had a hand in the timing. About 8 different groups all wanted it to happen, so they had been steering things towards it. But because other groups where independently doing the same thing, it happened before any of those groups could take advantage of it and they all suffered catastrophic losses. Vault Tec HQ was taken out, the Us + Chinese governments lost most of their back up forces, the zetans in orbit got hit by missiles and they had to wait for back up to invade Earth properly, the Lovecraftian horrors wiped out too many people and they didn't get released, PAM didn't wipe enough people out for the robots to take over.
That actually fits really well. In their greed, nobody got what they wanted and destroyed the world beyond use.
@@kingofhearts3185 Especially when we see that every faction in every game is flawed in some serious way, it feels like the message has always been "We're all responsible" because people don't change.
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For Boone’s sniper nest, it isn’t out of the ordinary for snipers to create a hide if they are surveilling an area for an extended period of time
The reason for the 50- style is not that nuclear power became the defacto, but that the microtransistor was never invented, the 50- style is due to the lack of modern technology.
Vault 13 was not designed to be closed forever. It was designed to be closed for a set term of years. Vault 101 was to be closed forever.
Imagine if the mysterious stranger was just the true founder of the railroad, spy using an experimental version of psycho, or even, deacon's father 😂
Don't worry about being quick. Details set the best apart from the rest. Wendigoon is one of the most popular KZhead iceberg video makers and his videos are long and in depth. Be succinct, but don't leave stuff out. We're here to waste time. Good video, thought. Just a response to a comment you made during the point about the soul survivor being a synth.
Thanks for watching! I just knew the video was going to be an hour plus and didn’t want to waste too much of your guys’ precious time. But yeah I’m like you, I could watch wendigoon videos for hours.
The vaults definitely have to have a higher purpose in my opinion they've already tried this idea with vault zero being a central control center for all the vaults perhaps we'll see something similar later on.
I dont think Myron created Jet so much as he made his own version and just called himself the creator being as smug as he is If i remember right, theres actually an NOC in Fallout 2 that flat out says she had been taking Jet before Myron was born. Even in the game itself, it debunks Myron's claim
I believe that Jet was an exotic pre-war chem, but Myron (and some other Wasteland Chemists) figured out a new way to synthesize it from Brahmin dung
I think if Jet was pre-war, it would be advertised that way in fallout 2 to make it seem more luxurious. In the canon of F2 it's a post-war creation of Myron. In F4 it's Pre-war.
@DogHat The mistake is assuming that Myron is a reliable source- and Jet is an amphetamine, so it would likely not be a commercial product
@@doghat1619nah I’m pretty sure you can speech check myron to get him to admit he didn’t make it, but I might be wrong
@@doghat1619 could've just been that Myron discovered jet, which had not been pushed out west pre-war, so he synthesized it himself. This also goes with a lot of chems from F4, like X-Cell.
Bethesda just had bad writing.
A lot of alien theories IRL mention that aliens try to stop humans from using nukes. They say they’re more intelligent and peaceful. In fallout, they could make that canon in the next game possibly.
In A Boy and His Dog, Dogmeat is the protagonists canine companion, and functions almost like his pipboy radar, and speaks to him telepathically.
New sub here, Just came across your channel and decided to check out your Fallout content!!! Such a great game, with TONS of lore to break down. Keep up the hard work
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Well, the fallout show is now canon to the games. And they said the vault boys finger was used for the nukes. So yeah
Great video! And you were right, there were several theories in it that I had never heard of. But one thing I wanted to add was that Your Tier 6: Fallout 76 point about "how would Vault-Tec know about all of the creatures and currency of the wasteland?" Well they knew enough about them to add them to the Vault-Boy cartoons. Maybe it's nothing, but then again... Also I think Dogmeat is the one that's a synth, not the Sole Survivor....but then again, maybe they both are!
Thanks for watching! And yeah that’s a good point! I’m not sure if it’s the exact mutants or not but I do think they show super mutants? But that’s a good observation.
That's just Bethesda randomly deciding to retcon established lore(FROM BEFORE THE _FIRST_ GAME *RELEASED* FFS)
@@The-jy3yq Fallout lore can be so dumb sometimes retcons are fine.
So that Thumb Up theory has now been confirmed as the background, even if it doesn't work. I wonder if the theory is the reason they made it canon in the Fallout TV series. They even kinda make a bit of a joke of it "your thumb or my thumb?".
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That was a lot of fun. My headcanon on the Mysterious Stranger is that it's the PC, or maybe a descendant, who travels through time to prevent the death of their past self. Sadly unfalsifiable.
Mysterious Stranger's stealth is so good; even time can't find him most of the time.
Why would the institute want a synth running them though? They don’t even consider gen 3s to be sentient… plus if they did want a synth running things wouldn’t they just implant a program for you to join them no matter what, or have some kind of recall code if you disobey?
*Mysterious stranger appears* “Oh hi Mark”
Why would The Institute be okay with a synth eventually being in charge of them though if the Sole Survivor really is a synth?
cool video! interesting info all around
The Mysterious Stranger is Dogmeat from the previous game.
I think the space travel theory is pretty solid. most vaults seem like they’re experiments etc but it’s all research. the cryopods for sleeping while they travel, plants, diseases, drugs, personality’s after being stuck for so luck etc.
Tim Cain actually confirmed this was the original purpose on his YT channel, but I don’t know what direction Bethesda’s taking it in 😭
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Ah you misunderstand something, the asthetic of fallout 1 and 2 and new vegas is retrofuturistic, its styled after what people in the 50s thought the future would be like, its not that culture didnt advance. Its why in 1 and 2 and new vegas modern firearms exist, and besides niche examples like the kings who are modeled after elvis, theres no gaggles of pompador wearing idiots floating around the game world. Bethesda misinterpreted this and said "what if 50s but apocolypse and lets rips off older games story, but do it worse, and make it way more shallow"
I think the Mysterious Stranger is Nick Valentine. No not the sinth we know from Diamond City. The orginal man that he takes his personality traits from.
3:31 rebunked...cuz of the show
One major flaw I see with the ss being a synth is that all synths have a recall code. The institute uses synths to recover synths using the recall code, so how come even if the ss is hostile to the institute it's never used on the ss.
Another major flaw I have is psychologically a synth and a human are variably different For example the Institute mention Synth subconsciously craves Fany Lads Snack Cake which they mention they are not able to change Why isn’t the player character in love with Fancy Lad Snack cakes. In game they are just junks you don’t bother to pick up even in survival
Synth theory just blew my mind.
The life support of the pods was rerouted to the sole survivors pod, so instead of suspending 40 people for 100 years, They could suspend one person (the sole survivor) indefinately
Here’s my ultimate theory: Despite it being, at heart, a fantasy rpg shooter, how could a world realistically carry and centuries worth astethic and culture for over 170 years? Like would the 2000s in fallout just be the 1950s pt 5 or would there be seperate types of 1950s culture?
10:08 I believe braun wanted james to be isolated from the rest of the sim, partly because if anyone was gonna be able to find a way out it would be the scientist, it is also humiliating to be a dog subject to a little girl, and third, perhaps it would be a sort of way to keep him safely within reach and easy to interrogate. Turn back on his ability to speak english and from there find out what the world is like and if there has been anything worth looking into outside. Our character however has no credentials as a scientist, a person of any authority, or even a relation to anything old world except vault tec, and at that a dweller like the rest of tranquility lane. So why give a damn?
The lonesome drifters revolver if equipped also plays a “mysterious stranger type riff”
Dam good video. keep this up and you'll have a future in this.
For the Mysterious Stranger bit, "eldritch" doesn't necessarily mean Lovecraftian. The actual definition of eldritch is weird, sinister, or otherworldly. A random man in old world clothes showing up, gunning down your foe and turning away, never to be seen up close is pretty weird and sinister. Also ive always personally interpreted him as stand it for many kindhearted wastelanders taking a shot at a mutant or raider you're battling from a far
The zetans starting the war and humanity self destructing is hilarious. “Don’t come in here, I’ve got a belt and I’m not afraid to hang myself”
I love how near the end it’s stuff like “dogmeat is an Erdrich god”💀
I m so happy this video exists
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In the memory den Kellogg states that "he didnt know why the old man didnt just freeze the rest back up, guess he didnt want too many loose ends. Too bad he kept the one person alive he shouldnt have" the cryo pods didnt fail they were sabotaged.
Fallout 6 was so good, we skipped number 5.
Got a theory…since the original plan for the vaults are for space exploration and obsidian worked on outer worlds a game based on life In space due to the earth being inhabitable would both games most likely be in the same universe?
Great video! A little correction. The residents of Vault 111, aside from the frozen people and the scientists, are also the security staff and engineer/maintenance staff. Also, isn't Vault 13 supposed to stay sealed for a set amount of time? For 80 years? With the addition of pre-planned broken water chip without any replacement? I don't really remember, but I'm sure it is not forever. There is another Vault with an experiment similar to Vault 13, only different duration. For 200 years, I think? Vault 101 is the one supposed to be sealed forever. To see the effect of inbreeding? Damn, now I'm confusing myself, which experiment is in which vault. I really love talking about Vault-Tec experiments. They're dark, unexpected, and creepy at the same time.
There is mention of Vault 76 in Fallout 3, it’s on a terminal in the citadel that you have to access during the main quest line. It says vault 76 is a control vault, that will operate exactly advertised and after 20 years it will open.
It’s also at the vault tec regional headquarters. Cool that it was still a control vault all the way back in 2008, tens years before 76 released.
Awesome vid 🔥🔥🔥
4:05 The vault boy thumb was later retconned to be true in the vault tv show.
My theory about who started the great war. Aliens hacked the computers of both China and America then launched a few nukes. After the first nukes where launched by the aliens, the waring nations launched the remaining missiles.
The Stranger is a time traveler that acts in convenience to his own timeline
Its pretty easy to think that jet could exist in several forms, at different times, at different places. Jet is an awesome name for speed.
Apparently in Fallout 2 if you have a high intelligence stat you can call out Myron and say that using methane is very easy to make illicit substances from. Which, Jet is just speed, but post apocalyptic
New Vegas has dialogue that you can unlock to talk to Veronica about Christina where they confirm it
I will say as a Lovecraft fan, if we go on the theory that Fallout takes place in a Lovecraftian world, the Mysterious Stranger being a God would have some merit to it. The idea that he can show up in any game without seeming to change a bit, unaffected, is very much a theme in Lovecraftian horror. Several gods and other creatures within Lovecraftian horror also have the ability to shapeshift and/or possess others, so it's not uncanny to say that the Mysterious Stranger may be a Lovecraftian God who has taken interest in the Wasteland, and changes it's shape to fit in with survivors and silently observe what happens. I couldn't say why they would take a particular interest in the protagonist, but with all the other references to Lovecraft within the Fallout verse, it's definitely a possibility.