An Optimist's Approach to Work and Life | Full Interview
Progress is fueled by the undying belief that the future is bright.
Thank you to Jennifer Cohen for having me on her show to talk about what being an optimist really means.
Recorded with @habitsandhustle, November 2022
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Simon is an unshakable optimist. He believes in a bright future and our ability to build it together.
Described as “a visionary thinker with a rare intellect,” Simon has devoted his professional life to help advance a vision of the world that does not yet exist; a world in which the vast majority of people wake up every single morning inspired, feel safe wherever they are and end the day fulfilled by the work that they do.
Simon is the author of multiple best-selling books including Start With Why, Leaders Eat Last, Together is Better, and The Infinite Game.
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Simon’s microphone made me struggle to listen to this 😢 Nevertheless I love the way he expresses his ideas, each time I watch your videos or listen to your podcasts makes me want more and more of you ❤️
Yes. Using a sm7b as a boom mic is a mistake 😅🤷♂️
@@thormejsner Which ones do you recomend?
@@Music-rq5wo For that type of interview. RØDE wireless go mic set
@@thormejsner Thank you
It's not the mic that's the problem, it's the gate that is being applied later in the recording chain. When the levels go below a certain threshold it mutes the mic, which is often cutting off the end of the sentence.
Been following Simon since days of Covid and what hit me like a huge stack of Lego (being a huge huge fan and collector myself) was the fact how much I was able to relate with Simon, his talks, his patterns and his mindset! His talks made me realize so many issues and flaws I had and made me work on them and made me actually pull of 2 life changing things, all thanks to Simon's mindset. Honestly we ALL need a friend like Simon in our lives. Wish and hope he gets to see my comment and smiles knowing Simon has been able to change my life, block by block :)
This is a great example for why you should be wearing headphones or have a third person there listening to make sure the audio won't end up almost inaudible.
Made me stop after a minute, this is absolutely unbearable
The most interesting thing about this interview is that you could spot the communication skills between Simon and the interviewer. Simon didn’t self promote or place judgement on people or topic while she was all about that.
Communication differences is significant. Interesting to compare this interviewer with host on Diary of CEO.
@@volleyballboy36 I'm curious about this, could you be more specific, please?
Yup!! I was wondering the same thing! This chick...
Omg so true, I can’t stand listening to this interviewer….
@@entertainment6630 why? Make a sample please
I could listen to Simon all day
The interviewer is enormously impressive given that she genuinely kinda gave time to ask and get to know Simon, and let him talk/share about his personal things and likes; this rarely happens, so I'm truly impressed by her effectiveness in this show, particularly in this episode❤❤❤.
"I like testing things in real life", thank god you are one of the most briliant minds we ever had and not a software engineer, otherwise your team would be probably mad at you 😆
wow, “shared actualization” vs self actualization! very insightful and new concept to me. Thanks Simon!
We appreciate videos like this. They're truly insightful.
It’s easy to separate yourself from what you do when you’re a public speaker where you share ideas or anything that’s considered as “general” nowadays in comparison to something more specific (e.g. Surgeon)…. Anyhow, I like your optimism and I’ve been watching all your videos and listening to all your podcasts. Amazing speaker and wishing you all the best Simon.
this is a good example of how background noise is much preferable over a sharp noise gate & compressor
Good to find someone who is able to put words or sentences on some feelings or emotions that we have. Thanks
I used to accept a position simply because I needed a paycheck. I got what I wanted. When I decided to get "picky" and select the role I was hoping to find, the universe delivered. Life is better now.
I am 69 years old. My most difficult birthday was my 25th birthday, because I thought, "I'm a quarter of a century years old, and I haven't done anything with my life."
it is nice to listen every Simon Sinek says.
1 minute in and I've learned something new. This is going to be good!
1.5 minutes in and everything you says already completely resonates with me 100% 🙌
I really needed to hear this, thank you both so much for sharing this conversation. I took so many practical gems from this and some really good thought provoking perspectives that will help me navigate this new complex season I'm in at work & my career more fruitfully🙂
U r the person whom we can listen for hours , days n... without getting bored n do thing differently. U r a great mentor.
Love it. I don't define myself by what I do, but by what I am.
This is a very insightful conversation thanks Simon for extending your time and Jennifer for following through to bring out the best in the conversation! Good stuff!
Always enjoy listening to you, that you so passionate about your vision, keep up the great work. Thank you.🙏
Simon is the best public speaker...Thanks a lot !!
One of the best I think I agree. Jordan Peterson might give him a run for his money 😅
Liberty puzzles!!! I love those! I used to do those with my grandfather. He had close to 100.
Thank you for sharing, you are an incredibly motivating and inspiring human.
Dear Simon, really u r doing great work n contribute to make a positive impact on the world. As u change is constant can u make a podcast on leadership characteristics for the new industry 5.0. It will be great to hear u from this perspective. 😊
Really appreciate this. Thanx Simon for your sharing. God Bless!
Simon is simply the best public speaker
I love this guy, I think exactly the same, the world needs to be fair but people don't understand what that means. I love listening to you talk and the amazing way you are able to listen. It makes me very happy. I would love to talk with this guy.
Itsn8 What does that mean?
@@Music-rq5wo I can relate to his views very well
@@user-ul8lk4rr2z You are a good soul…bless you!
Good talk as always You need someone to ask the proper questions in a direct way without including themselves prior to any predicted question. I very appreciate your efforts and vision. Chapeau bas.
Thank you for saying this. Wish more hosts would understand and let the speaker have the floor.
Seeing plenty of comments scrutinizing the interviewer. Easy to critique from the audience's perspective. Get in the arena, let's see how yall do?!
I’m very ready from the audience perspective to host and ask a series of questions. I truly see that, the vast majority of speakers, rarely do a pick of their audience to hear what their views are to improve. Where we are primarily the head consumer of your work. Thank you
luv luv luv Simon, the guy is the man my man 💯⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍🏽👍🏽
Loved this!
I love the candid talks of Simon agreeing with him almost always. Staring at the screen and nodding rigorously...surely inspired me
I am totally agree with him. I worked in hospitality during 10 years between 50 to 70 hours a week for a salary between 1500 to 2400€. I have had not free time all the evening during 10 years and no regular week-end as well. At the age of 30 I moved to another business, I work in logistic and purchase in a small company. My wages is 1416€ per month plus the state prime which is 200€ per month. So 1614€. I have all my evening and week-end. I have a better rhythm of life and I learn more because I live in my flat without loan. I don't want to push myself more because it is a pipe dream to think you are going to get more money. You get more money for what, at the end of our life nothing will count.
Simon is genius & brave
1:13:44 to 1:15:14 Comparisons are stupid. Brilliant piece.
Love the approach of leading through helping others 😊 I haven’t met a selfish happy person yet… I have however met leaders that are happy from looking out for themselves and others.
The audio on this is awful, his microphone is not working properly and it’s making listening to this painful.
Audio is terrible
At around 40:13 I think what Simon was missing is that if an employer disqualifies an applicant because they've left previous jobs after a short time, the employer is assuming that it necessarily says something about the applicant. The applicant may have just been in some terrible working environments. If the employer isn't thinking its a guaranteed reflection of the applicant, they may have a pretty poor working environment at their own company, otherwise they wouldn't be worried that an applicant would just leave after a short time. People don't generally leave places after a short time if they enjoy working there... So, how long someone has spent at a previous company is probably a pretty poor metric for measuring an applicants value, but how an employer feels about it is probably a pretty good metric for measuring what kind of work environment they feel they're providing...
Yeah, my understanding is that Simon is saying it like it currently is, no matter if the current state is good or bad. But also just like he said before that, chaos is good because it's the time when things get rethought and rebuilt, so maybe in the current chaos both employees and employers will be able to reach a middle ground mutual understanding on this in time.
I think the employer can just ask the applicant maybe? I’ve left jobs pretty quick simply cause I was bored. Or cause I felt like the job I had was not my calling. And yes sometimes cause the work place was not great. I also know some people who leave jobs quick because they have anger issues
"Nothing in this world is free", happy to have someone express that. However, regarding remotel work; as a leader you have to fundamentally change your approach to management for it to be successful. Honestly, if you can't find a way to measure the value they create you're probably in the wrong role. I've run global teams for years before covid; if you're in a large company get used to it and find a way to make it work. At the end of the day corporate culture is a fantasy created to benefit the employer. It's a financial and social contract where you exchange the value your create, or time spent, for money. They are not your family, friends, or therapist. The relationships are important for sure, but only in the context of your potential for creating value for others.
Loves all the messages (literally watcher this several times over with my team and broke down each micro topic) but the sound quality was so distracting.
28:17 Hi Simon, I am a huge believer in your work and what you do. In this talk you both discuss the feeling of instant gratification and being behind as a result of conveniences like finding a date or getting your Korean chili flakes sent to you the next day after you order them. As someone on the tail end of millennials I think it is fueled by a deeper fear of instability in our surrounding culture and economy. American millennials in particular have seen the dotcom bubble, 911, the housing crisis, a pandemic, and are about to see another huge recession (where preemptive mass layoffs have already impacted several people). These major events instill more and more unease to the point where we cannot simply change careers if we are not feeling like we are fulfilled. We don't feel like we have the freedom to 'quiet quit' so like gen z has been doing as we have responsibilities to our family. As it stands many millennials can't afford housing due to inflation, some can't afford kids, pets, or their next meal. This feeling of being behind is emphasized by the talk of previous generations about where we should be at this age, without taking into account that the cost of living wasn't as high. Furthermore when inflation hits older generations today, they are well-established in their careers and have the margin to absorb it. We feel constantly behind because of the quality of life and purchasing power that Americans once had. Like most we would love to make money and be fulfilled at the same time, however we are scared to make the jump and don't know where to start looking in the first place. I am happy to answer and follow up questions you may have. Thank you for pursuing the truth and a higher quality of life for everyone you come in contact with. Best, Ryan
I am also here to give 😊
I have never intertwined my identity with my work. It never made sense to me. I despise when people ask “what do you do?” with the expectation of getting an answer about an occupation.
I agree with much of what Simon shares from everything I have listened to. I did think the interviewer was trying to get too personal at times and was flirty or in a round about way wanting to see if he fits her profile for a date. Just an observation from the questioning and that fact she kept agreeing and to everything he said. It was a very transparent conversation but again in my opinion could have been shorter without some of the personal questions about “what food do You eat?” or “what time do you wake up?” or “ what family are you talking about?” almost like wanting to know is he in a relationship and if so to talk about that other than his sister or nieces and nephews. The only reason I listened to the whole interview was because I had a long drive otherwise if not I would have stopped much sooner. Please know I did think there was other good questions from the interviewer and answers from Simon.
I felt like Jennifer Cohen interjected a lot. I wish she would listen instead of feel the need to lead the conversation. However it was great information.
Iistened to this on the ladies channel previously 👍
Is there any option to provide captions in Spotify..... I really love your podcasts but I am not well versed in understanding English without captions 🥲🙏...... Thanks for giving me a new perspective sir ✨✨
I love Simon. I always agree with him. I would love to have a friend like him. I would just listen to him talk. 😊
Videos like these ❤
Aaaahhh … i found this video today 8 may 2023, next time i will get that chance 😊
I bought all of your books and can get past page 3 of Finding Your Why?
Could you fix the mic's automute effect away?
.. I remember Well the Optimism in the Führer Bunker in April 1945 in Berlin - how joyful we all were celebrating the Führer Geburtstag April 20 - and the End Sieg so close in sight. We finally got the End Sieg some decades later - and may lose it now - due to entanglement with the Sino Soviet em Pire that will swallow us. Some Decades later we will come out victorious again. Optimism is Patience beyond Death. Something Good eventually will come. Those who get it then - may not realize it. Optimism camouflage Pessimists are always right as things are getting worse... no matter what Drugs you take
I read an part of the great book at my mother's place - where the Jewish author descripes the living in Europe in a community before the second world war. It descripe's how a man comes to ask from a rabbi: "Is it ok to sleep with a dead spouse in a same bed?" The rabbi - and the else, were shocked - - and founded out that the man lived very ruraly in a basement-apartment. There were a lot of rats, and he didn't have much another places to keep his just perished wife. So, he had to keep her in the same bed that he slept, because the lack of the opportunities. (The community putted up an collective help of furnitures and helped the man, after they were shocked of the status of his living.) The same book influenced me to commit a passion for doing a laundry very well - the narrator tells about a lutheric grandmother, who did their family's laundry - and one week she didn't come with the clean laundry. She had been near-death-sick, but she wouldn't die, until she could get momenterely so well that she could return the finished laundry, a couple weeks late. The narrator said, that he thinks, that 'the lutheric work moral and -ethics' were so strong in her, that she just couldn't leave her's responsibilities topsy-turvy. I think Simon needs to correct this: "Nobody never made a suicide because they were hungry. - They made it because they were lonely." I mostly believe that the suicide comes from the miseries of the some sorts. "If the man is iron, the food is steel.", is the Chinese proverb, and without food one usually declines in health - and faces miseries. The shocking fact of life is; that the worse you are - the worse people treat you - as a trend. (The same goes also in a reverse ❤) It's conflicting why the thesis is that the lack of money / or food ain't very bad, because in the other case Simon explained that the differences of well-being's of the people come on what they can put in line in the supermarkets, in the long run. A very good broadcast - so far - as always ❤❤
I love 😘 you ❤ Simon
Creativity does not go down with products like Second Life. We collaborate in world together. It's so totally awesome. For those who don't know, 25 years before Meta. The world is two solid decades behind the computer industry. We've been doing this forever. Because YOU cannot create human connection doesn't mean OTHER PEOPLE cannot create human connection. *rolls eyes* Geez, people are so convinced that what is right for them is right for everyone and they are so clueless. Dunning-Kruger is all over this interview.
I love Simon but I’m having a really hard time with this interview. Not sure why exactly.
Interviewer lacks depth in both individual questions and creating the overall arch of the interview
@Brian Bartlett I think that’s it. The conversation is definitely centered around her or her wanting to impress upon him as an equal? It’s a weird vibe and hard to watch.
@@saygigi I’m surprised she has watched his videos and speeches because he answered a lot of her questions in those videos already.
This is a good discussion, but the microphone is so bad. The sound keeps fading in and out
I love your interviews, Simon. However, I wish you had mentioned here that employees may appear to have a poor work ethic because they find that their hard work goes unrecognized or their boss steals credit for their ideas. Also, when employees fear that they will be fired even if the company is profitable and they have worked hard, they simply won't put in extra hours or effort. You have expressed these ideas in other interviews and your books, and I am surprised you didn't make that point in this conversation. People need to feel inspired and valued to produce great work. Could you please explain why you think that employees have the character flaw of a poor work ethic in increasing numbers and whether employers have contributed to this problem.
As a Star wars fan, I do love the politics there but when I saw the Discovery of the Star Trek franchise, the tone was closer to my taste. Consequently I found Star wars to be a bit too extreme. (in reference to 1:34:05)
How do you connect with people in a virtual world? Our limbic brain tells us to move forward who we connect with and feel good about. What is the best way to do this virtually?
RE: "Previous generations didn't really have a quarter life crisis": Current generations are suffering from this because we are being pressured from a very young age to know what we want to be when we grow up, and to stick with school so that we can be successful. So we pick something we think we might like in late high-school, major in that in college, and spend the first 20-25 years of our lives trying not to fall behind in school. The problem comes in when school ends and we finally run out of railroad track, realize that we either didn't pick something we actually cared about for our career, or that we have no idea how to build it into a fulfilling career.
Also, there has been a feeling of insecurity and instability for the entire lives of many people under the age of 40. This puts pressure on us to become secure for ourselves asap
I find it interesting how Simon makes a statement, in this example “fast quitting” and prefaces it with “it’s not a judgement, it’s an interesting observation…” but the host clearly misses it and says “exactly” as to indicate total agreement, but the remarks “it’s so absurd!” She’s not a very good listener-she needs to be validated and not have her thoughts/ beliefs challenged or moved forward . To be clear, I’m listening to this for Simon.
Great insight on the host. When she made her no one wants to work tirade she showed her ignorance of what Simon has said about the younger generations.
@@whoatethechocolate yes. When she talked about Musk "he's a very powerful man and everyone wants to work with him". Where is she getting her data from? There's lots of people who don't want to work with Musk. Her run-on questions without focus is irritating.
MBA holding sociopathic leaders are what has engineered this society. It's time we start betting on young people to force those leaders to stop serving themselves first, their wealthy associates second, customers third, then figuring out if there is enough to serve anyone/anything else and more importantly figuring out if there is enough to take some more for themselves, then and only then do they begrudgingly share with the essentially expendable people whom sold themselves to a cause to make it possible.
Who is the Simon competitor or worthy rival, Simon is referring to in the video ?? Any idea about his name
He is usually talking about Adam Grant who is now a very good friend of his.
The sound is so so bad on this interview
what bothered me the most in this interview was his microphone failing all the time, very annoying 🤦
There's a weird issue with Simon's audio, like the start and end of everything he says is being cut off. Extremely distracting. EDIT: NM it's only like that for the first few minutes. The rest of the interview is great.
Weird, I'm over an hour in and the audio is still in and out, agreed super distracting
Nah you’re not imaging it. It’s that mic. You can also here when the interviewer pauses the same thing happens. Super hard to listen to because even when he pauses then he speaks and the mic doesn’t pick up the sound until he is part way through the sentence lol
Do not take it mean, but any body counts how many times Simon sad "you know" during this podcust?😅
How to not be what you do for work... Get some hobbies?
To bad the volume issue with the microphone is so annoying that made me stop watching :(
Why is his mic so far away?
FIX THE MICROPHONE!!
Simon is a great speaker & always offers amazing insight. I don't know who she is but they didn't have flow. He couldn't finish talking about a specific topic When she would interrupt and start asking about something else. There were no effective follow up questions. It bothered me & had to stop watching lol. However, the topic is insightlful and very much needed.
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The aspect that made me feel off was that he interrupted her multiple times and not once showed interest in what she had to say. I think Simon is a great guy, brilliant & has many wonderful things to say, but how he acted with her caused me to feel very frustrated on her behalf. Us women really notice when certain kinds of men don’t listen to what we have to say. We take mental notes & remember it the next time we talk to those individuals.
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Uncertainty. Previous generation in the Western World could enjoy the benefits of the industrial society. Compared to the post-industrial society. The certainty. There was a big capital commitments and benefits of certainty and safety around the workers - around the society. "A one good industrial workplace created two service workplaces." Nowdays the starting of the business might be something like 1/10th of what they use to, and really the workers too lost 'the moat' that businessess use to have - because 'the moat' is more gone, because the easing of the competitive advantage. Another element is the evolution and 'the basic nature' of the 'capitalist market system': "The capitalistic market system is great to create products and services for those who can affort to buy." - Warren Buffet So, the current market system does great for the people with money, but is not so generous for the hard and honest working people like teachers - at same scale. So, people ain't stupid - and looks for the opportunities to entrys and exities. Due the Charlie Munger, "The capitalist system works because if the young and able bodied people don't find themselfs into to the workforce - they usually have to face agony." edit. I learned from another comments that the money's worth has declined. So, why work a lot for it - to gain only very narrow builded life possibilities - compared to the previous generations. It made lot more sense to work hard for the money that one could build life better; overall - and, also, one couldn't get money 'easier' elsewhere. It's the evolution of the society's with a capitalismn. The structures of our society's have changed.
I wonder how many times she said : "I love that..." & "Exactly". She does not disagree once. Hmm ...
i get the impression that she really wants to make this talk about her although she curbs it when Simon talks about being a giver.
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'that was hilarious'
Isn’t quitting in three months realizing employers expect employees to play a finite game with over dedication and vigor when we were sold a set of “cultures and values” as if it wasn’t? Or they are playing the infinite game with us playing the finite and therefore we cannot win? Also, if the millennial generation is inherently noticing this concept without articulating it, doesn’t that by definition mean that we are collectively looking ahead and are just realizing it quicker into the employment process? Different way to look at it instead of assuming that we are looking for instant gratification. Furthermore, the previous generations of heavy consumers and the ages of plastic surgery and wanting so much satisfaction without looking at the long term cost, may that be why they only see that in others? Older generations keep changing the rules and setting the bar further and wondering why we are discouraged.
Another note. I wonder if she’s taking the stance of a person at the end of the bell curve, the only change if they have to group, on purpose for effect.
Apple's Founder and Live of ever new invetion happened butt How ? Due to personal will to weane in personal in what Struggles and Findout courage with success is Apple and after Mobile and world today's "
Toward the end it felt like a date of a guy bragging whilst a girl is so taken over
'like' 'ya know' far too often i can't listen much more
Does Simon really think getting a date is as easy as “swiping right” for most guys?
This interview is almost painful to watch. The lady interviewing needs to learn how to listen.
The laziest people at my workplace (tech) are older (35+). I definitely felt some bias from the interviewer in regards to younger employees which is simply not true but regurgitated all over…hustle grindset is just so toxic 😂
Yeah I was wondering if anyone else was feeling this. I think Simon may have picked up her animosity and tried to smooth it over. I think he's really good and not dismissing people but offering a different perspective. Tbh I'm not a huge fan of this interviewer, too much grindset, people are lazy, people don't want to work mentality for me... I think Simon did a great job here to offer the better mindset of balance and allowing people to find what makes them happy and fulfilled and how that has a lot of value in other ways.
@@ejclearwater could not agree more. He handled it very gracefully like the pro he is.
Have you thought about why you have that perception and if those measures are the same for those you consider lazy
Haha, she loves to talk about herself... she cannot resist...
Diversity n inclusion killing it replacing simple merit , be as need to be remove but providing equity on outcome is equally worse....how to navigate this?
Equity on outcome is not the same as equality on outcome. If we had equity on outcome, that would mean more like if a company does well, not only would CEO get compensated, team also get compensated because they are part of the success. Which would be good 👍🏽
I love Simon. I do not like the interviewer she is definitely not at his level of mind.
I find this woman very difficult to listen to. It feels to me that she has her own agenda about "back in my day it was better because X". It makes this talk very one sided and alienating to anyone without her world view. She states that people are not like they used to be, yet im sure her parents and the generations prior would have said the same thing about her and her generation. And the same things will be said about the next and the next. Everyone wants to feel special and be treated as individuals, as this woman does, yet she uses negative conotations when describing the current state of people and their feelings and ideals. On another note, Simon has spoken about the state of things (pre and post pandemic) and how we got here and why they are the way they are. He states that the generations of today feel the way they feel and act the way they act because of the world that previous generations have created. The world has been molded into a shape that creates or produces a type of person. I feel this woman should, instead of pointing fingers at other people for their faults or shortcomings, whatever they may be, reflect on your own views/opinions/world view and put the onus on yourself and say "Am I the best that I can be? Am I doing all that I can? Am I happy with that?" For reference, I got 39 minutes into this video and gave up - I could not stand listening to her any longer.
This interview made me uncomfortable and I don't know why...Maybe because Simon didn't seem relaxed or like he was having fun.
This setup where Simon is interviewed by a good looking woman with no people around... It is distracting. The conversation though is very good and insightful, even more to people who is their first time listening to Simon's ideas 👍🏻
@@germangonzalez2298 I listened to the interview on her podcast. I'm glad she was able to introduce Simon to new people like you!
The aspect that made me feel off was that he interrupted her multiple times and not once showed interest in what she had to say. I think Simon is a great guy, brilliant & has many wonderful things to say, but how he acted with her caused me to feel very frustrated on her behalf. Us women really notice when certain men don’t want to listen to what we have to say. We take mental notes & remember it the next time we talk to those individuals.
I'm 23 minutes in and it feels like I'm being watered!!! I'm loving it!!
@crystalabbot2045 Really? I felt the opposite. Simon is a great speaker & always offers amazing insight. I don't know who she is but they lacked chemistry...there was something off & there seemed to be some tension between them. Her interviewing wasn't so effective. He couldn't finish talking about a specific topic when she would interrupt & ask about something else.
I often thought boomers where just making a fuss about young people for no reason. I'm only 28 and, while I don't work many hours, I am self sufficient and built my life in a way to give me plenty of free time. I suppose I have worked hard to achieve that, in a way. But the more people I work with in their early 20's the more I'm coming round to thinking they really don't do anything. Like. At all! And they don't even communicate to say they're struggling or explain what they have been doing with the time (because it's clearly not work!). I think a lot of boomers have a pretty toxic approach to work, but it is feeling more and more like too many young people have gone too far the other way. Maybe, as Simon eluded to with other issues, it will swing back and find balance at some point.
I think it also has a lot to do with the value of money. It's not as valuable as it was back in their day. The pandemic made this worse because people were prioritizing family, and other things, over the value some companies were giving their employees. You could convince employees with money to work hard, and to be productive. But nowadays, while money can be a motivator, there comes a point where money no longer becomes the motivator. The change for workers became the idea that we are more than just an accountant, more than just an engineer, etc. We are individuals, with families. And companies that struggle to keep high performers usually due to not recognizing that. Some company cultures are built on the idea that the employees identity is heavily tied to their job title and their work ethic, so much so, that they forget to manage their work/life balance. The definition of work/life balance has changed so drastically in the last 20 years, especially after the pandemic. Where this becomes a problem for boomers is a lot have not changed the way they manage, to take today's stressors into account. Everyone's mental health has been altered because of the pandemic, and a lot of people just haven't realized it. Especially those who weren't directly affected by thr pandemic.
I think with this upcoming generation they're seeing a world that is so far from the values they all collectively seem to have come around to, things like gender and sexuality, climate change, social welfare, human rights, race and gender issues. Then the pandemic during their formative years, which for many has completely derailed their life plans or ruined their college years. I think many young people have a very Liberal mindset and view of the world and they're coming into a workforce that confronts them with a world of people who don't think like them. They see what many of us have put up with as toxic, and I think largely they're right. But they have no power to change it so they quit and they're looking for those unicorn companies that see people as people. I was certainly like that but I had to learn through a number of bad work environments. I feel like genz were pre warned but perhaps ill prepared of the realities of the other 75% of the population.... Anyways. I think you're right. The value of money is far less than it was, and I think young people see that, and aren't prepared to waste the little time they have on our sinking planet in a job that doesn't fulfil them.
Is it a safe place for them to come and ask for help? Is OPEN communication practiced by the leaders in the company? Is anyone checking in on them? Maybe they are working and doing there best, could be solving a problem they thought was more important than the one given to them, could be spending an hour having a panic attack in the bathroom because work is giving them anxiety! That’s why Simon wrote the book “Start With WHY”. Don’t make the assumption that people “aren’t working cause they’re lazy and entitled”. Ask WHY
Boomers and GenX: "You can't be a CEO and a Mom!" Boomers and GenX: "You are a shitty woman for choosing CEO over motherhood"
I did not enjoy this interviewer.
The podcast has everything but ‘an optimistic approach to work and life’….