They really missed a trick by not having them pass Kirk's bird of prey coming the other way 🤣
@13palmerluke9 ай бұрын
Good thing they didn’t reach warp 10 or they would’ve turned into salamanders.
@BigNoseDog2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@scotteous2 жыл бұрын
Voyager reference
@4TheWinQuinn2 жыл бұрын
😂 I remember that episode
@AC-iz7eh2 жыл бұрын
As long as they don’t go to plaid (Now I’m running away and giggling a lot)
@jenniferschmitzer299 Жыл бұрын
I saw your comment in the beginning of the year and I'm glad to say I finally understand the reference 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@andilemadonko2616 Жыл бұрын
Plot twist. Coming out of warp they hit a klingon bird of pray... Lol
@78beast2 жыл бұрын
...bread n' butter! ...bread n' butter!
@ronaldrobertson23322 жыл бұрын
But did the whales survive ???
@ntal58592 жыл бұрын
no probably a train of starlink satelites in Earth's orbit.. XD
@DreamskyDance2 жыл бұрын
The actress of the Borg queen passed away from cancer. Rest in peace.
@ps3301 Жыл бұрын
"Welcome to the Earth of the 21st century!" * Picard grimaces and thinks "Not this shit again"*
@adamwong2462 жыл бұрын
Haha I was thinking the same thing. Picard could literally go... ohh I remember this!! And worf was here and Geordi was in Montana hahaah
@ns05572122 жыл бұрын
Cue Steppanwolf's, "Magic Carpet Ride." hahaha
@Maplecook2 жыл бұрын
@@ns0557212 And Data was there too with his cowboy suit 😃😄
@LGranthamsHeir2 жыл бұрын
wasnt he in 19 century not 21? In 21 there was Sisko, Janeway and even Archer but not him
@hallowed0002 жыл бұрын
@@hallowed000 I assume they're referring to First Contact
@Ulandyw2 жыл бұрын
The transition from "wow we're in the past" to "shit were crashing" is too brutal.
@hdufort2 жыл бұрын
Well this series isn't exactly known for pulling its punches.
@Orca199042 жыл бұрын
Two things I hear in this scene. "9.1! 9.2! 9.3!" And "my gosh Jim where are we?? "Blind as a bat and out of control"
@hybrid55682 жыл бұрын
THERE BE WHALES HERE!
@jonmyers80462 жыл бұрын
Get him back! GET HIM BACK!!!
@fakereality962 жыл бұрын
@@jonmyers8046 amazing that ship could blast off with two ginormous whales
@hybrid55682 жыл бұрын
@@fakereality96 sarek"THERE!"
@hybrid55682 жыл бұрын
@@hybrid5568 "They're heading for the bridge!"
@fakereality962 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, the time warp drained their power, is that mean their going to look for Nuclear wessels?
@Jayjay-qe6um2 жыл бұрын
Not in Alameda this go-around ;)
@mikek11872 жыл бұрын
No they can't. They need to refill the Space continuum warp machine in order to jump back into the 24th century. In order to do that, they need to sacrifice children to the borg queen so she can taste the fear in their blood before devouring them and processing them into the energy needed for the space continuum warp machine to work.
@drunkenphilosopher51592 жыл бұрын
@@provisionalhypothesis yeah clearly drunk when he came up with that philosophy
@private91732 жыл бұрын
sure if they used a IKia of Prey like Kirk did. remember even the drunkest, blindest human, or guy that literary learned engineering like his his life depended on it in the next 5 mins is better then any Klingon one.
@Deadxman6162 жыл бұрын
Admiral, there be whales here
@LEGENDCITYest19632 жыл бұрын
Alright, Lets all Review the Checklist: 1. Fix the future, either by bringing something back, or making sure a past event happens. 2. Rebuild Dilithiam Crystals from a radiation source. Preferably from a nuclear reactor, like a Super Carrier, named Enterprise. 3. Execute Borg Queen before she can make the alternate Timeline from First Contact happen. Marty McFly: "Hey, wait, I've seen this one!"
@jbellrick2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget bringing back the whales! Wait I know, the Borg queen wants to assimilate the whales! “OOOOO RESIIIIIIISTAMCE IIIIIIISSSSS FuUuUUUUTIIIIILLLLE OOOOO...”
@spinlok39432 жыл бұрын
@@spinlok3943 if only this was Disney+ would make for a perfect Dory crossover
@amlvification2 жыл бұрын
Everyone remember where we parked.
@commandingjudgedredd18412 жыл бұрын
@@amlvification We need a crossover into Black Adam's universe. That way, PIcard could slap his butt and yell, "This is what it feels like to hit Rock Bottom!"
@Maplecook2 жыл бұрын
Do they get to go to a glass manufacturer that hasn't got the transparent aluminum glass formula to have their own? In Picard's time, the glass formula could have improved vs Scotty's formula.
@erichanastacio96952 жыл бұрын
K, this is dumb. If time travel was that frickin' easy for the borg queen to accomplish in a ship not equipped in any way, shape, or form for time travel, the borg would have already done this repeatedly until the entire universe was borg.
@ngcolby2 жыл бұрын
There was a change in the past and she knew when, where, and what caused it. Just going back in time to any random point to make a change may not work in her favor. Plus it's a reference to when Spock did it. I've never seen first contact so I could be wrong, but the borg went back in time to do something like what you described in that movie. Plus, why would you assimilate a civilization that didn't even even survive long enough to exist in her time. Even if they were to go back in time and assimilate a species early. They be less advanced than they would be in the time she left.
@augustjsb Жыл бұрын
My working theory is that the borg are highly advanced pakleds.
@Terry396 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps dumb plots are enough for most people. In first contact the Borg used a highly specified ship that created a temporal vortex so they could time travel.
@AntecGreeno83 Жыл бұрын
You grossly overestimate the power of time travel. The time that the borg knows the best is the present, so why not take over the universe in the present? I get that it is too convenient of a plot device, but that doesn’t mean there can’t possibly be a reason.
@tobyonatabe2601 Жыл бұрын
They have already... With TNG crew's first movie... (Remember First Contact?) They just so happened to destroy the BORG sphere queen who figured out how before she could return with the knowledge to their time in the Delta Quadrant...
@Ysalomet10 ай бұрын
"Go backward to go forward!" The Borg Queen has seen Ready Player One?? o.O
@Audienc4u2 жыл бұрын
Picard walked on a hundred worlds wearing only Starfleet pajamas, only to meet his end by forgetting to wear his mask during an Earth pandemic...
@cosmicquestion91842 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Picard is inside a brand new body that I'm sure is more resistant against any viruses or germs 🤔😊
@LGranthamsHeir2 жыл бұрын
@@LGranthamsHeir He would probably have immunity from any 20th century disease, it would more likely to infect the 20th century population with a 25th century pathogen!
@seriascannain66752 жыл бұрын
@VHTesla Aw shit....he forgot his PT belt he's screwed...
@DIVeltro Жыл бұрын
this comment made me so furious that i wanted to smash everything in sight, but then i ate a candy bar and everything is ok.
@nepntzerZer Жыл бұрын
This aged well….
@tobyonatabe2601 Жыл бұрын
You must admit that warp jump was pretty cool
@CaptainMarkReed2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty awesome.
@alfredvalrie5541 Жыл бұрын
@@alfredvalrie5541 just like when they went back to Time to save the whale's
@definitlynotbenlente7671 Жыл бұрын
Ya know, if they'd said "warp 10" it would have solved so many issues with that one Voyager episode.
@whitenekoknight60352 жыл бұрын
Good luck exploring Earth as lizards, ya nerds!
@YIIMM2 жыл бұрын
That's a strong ship to survive an uncontrolled reentry into earth's atmosphere
@xadam2dudex2 жыл бұрын
The thing just skimmed the sun. But reentry is supposed to be a problem?
@seta-san21492 жыл бұрын
@@seta-san2149 it doesn't help when you hit a hard object like a planet
@xadam2dudex2 жыл бұрын
@@seta-san2149 surface is the sun aint that hot (5k?) that's nothing in compare to a force landing on a planet + the atmosphere being ticvk and so on
@namonamo4942 жыл бұрын
@@namonamo494 It is actually a lot compared to reentry temperatures... they also didn't impact at a 90°, the hull is incredibly strong, and inertial dampeners were still operational.
@davidnelson77192 жыл бұрын
@@namonamo494 LOL
@SR-iy4gg2 жыл бұрын
3:05 Rios: "More like a targeted crash!" Jurati: "In Los Angeles? We can't crash a spaceship into one of the most populated cities on this world!" Kelvin-verse Kirk: "Yes, you can!" (RIP tens of thousand unseen San Franscisco residents post "Into Darkness")😄😃
@LGranthamsHeir2 жыл бұрын
Picard: "Young man, I've met James T. Kirk. You are not him."
@kevlonk2 жыл бұрын
@@kevlonk It's Kelvin-verse Kirk, so for some die-hard TOS fans, he never existed in the first place
@LGranthamsHeir2 жыл бұрын
Oh look a dialog repeater ! I bet you’re a blast at movie theaters … spurting out dialog and telling friends what’s happening on the screen .
@markmed90912 жыл бұрын
Kirk never crashed a ship into San Francisco.... did you even watch the movie?
@DrewLSsix2 жыл бұрын
That was Cumberkhan.
@PeachWookiee2 жыл бұрын
They could have made the size of earth from the sun more realistic.
@DaveJablonski2 жыл бұрын
that would have totally made time traveling, phasers and borgs realistic
@Nobody-Nowhere2 жыл бұрын
So these guys have a laser gun shootout, then they're traveling faster than light in a ship that got hijacked by a cyborg space queen who lost all her subjects, and are attempting to travel through time, and yet your problem is the size of the Earth from the sun is not realistic? Seriously?
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
@@sleazybtd Have you seen Star Trek?
@DaveJablonski2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveJablonski Of course I have. I especially loved the part where they blew up the Death Star.
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveJablonski have you? When have they ever gotten this kind of thing right? In generations they watched a sun explode in real time, in TNG they drifted almost 1AU inside a Dyson sphere in a matter of hours at most, the pilot episode placed them at a system about 3000 lightyears from earth (Farpoint) a journey that should take years, yet they make it with a partial crew on their first mission amd make multiple trips back to earth while intermittently exploring beyond that edge of known space. Let's see..... the motion picture AND Generations have the ship traversing the solar system at significantly faster than the speed of light while under impulse, multiple episodes have the ship traveling to multiple destinations in a single day when even extreme high warp places individual solarsystems hours apart at best, earth to our closest star is over a day away at warp 9 btw.
@DrewLSsix2 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have included the part right before this where the queen hooked up and said, "Calculating temporal trajectory. Initiating tachyon splinter radiation bursts. Neutralizing threats." And then blows the hell out of those two ships. Such a cool moment.
@GrimmReeferX2 жыл бұрын
With one shot each! Loved it
@augustjsb Жыл бұрын
They uploaded it on another vid
@ashleytrout74525 ай бұрын
Borg Queen: "Up is down, black is white, dogs are cats, and Christmas is in July!"
@goldenyak6292 жыл бұрын
Rios: "Why the hell did you plug this crazy cyborg into my ship again???!!" Jurati "It was Seven's idea!" Seven: "Oh thanks, Agnes!"
@kevlonk2 жыл бұрын
She sounds like a Wonderland version of the Queen.. "I'm going to send your future self into the past"
@creativewriter38872 жыл бұрын
“The Borg Queen went on to prove that black is white and was promptly killed at the next Zebra crossing”
@gargoyles99992 жыл бұрын
@@gargoyles9999 LOL. Off with her cybernetic head!
@creativewriter38872 жыл бұрын
"Speed up to slow down. Walk before you crawl."
@augustjsb Жыл бұрын
My God Jim where are we? Blind as a bat and out of control.... Admiral, there be whales here!
@jonmyers80462 жыл бұрын
Well done, Mr. Scott.
@fakereality962 жыл бұрын
Wow for only 37% navigation control they sure nailed that landing.
@freeman23992 жыл бұрын
Did you not listen to Cristobal? It was a targeted crash! 🤣
@rikkiseddo2 жыл бұрын
Hell, you should see 36%
@sarcasticguy43112 жыл бұрын
This episode, the time travel episode, was directed by Lea Thompson from Back to the Future.
@carter3582 жыл бұрын
I wish Rios said "ummmm this isn't good guys, the borg queen is monologuing!!!"
@ns05572122 жыл бұрын
ROFLMAO 🤣😭
@ericpowell43502 жыл бұрын
All those cool Starfleet ships in the first episode to end up back on the USS Loft apartment.
@maxrockatansky29762 жыл бұрын
I want the Stargazer back, dammit! Give us a proper Starfleet ship instead of the Discount Normandy!
@kevlonk2 жыл бұрын
That's a great name for it. I love it.
@solidoperative2 жыл бұрын
Shhh… the La Sirena is a beautiful lady. Shame you’re too much of a child to recognise that.
@NeptuneCheeseCake2 жыл бұрын
@@NeptuneCheeseCake go and watch some Discovery. I bet you have never even watched the majesty that is TNG.
@solidoperative2 жыл бұрын
@@solidoperative son, I’ve watched more episodes of Star Trek than you’ve had pimples. The La Sirena is beautiful.
@NeptuneCheeseCake2 жыл бұрын
They are flying close enough to the sun that flares reach above the ship, and the curvature is still visible. In that shot the sun would be less than 100 km in diameter.
@Buzazu2 жыл бұрын
oh no.. this is not reality?
@Nobody-Nowhere2 жыл бұрын
Those flares can be huge.
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
@@sleazybtd exactly. 100,000km or more
@Hobodeluxe9602 жыл бұрын
Kurtzman and Co. have no clue.
@99goat992 жыл бұрын
I think it’s fair to ask for semi-accurate science from Trek. The series that literally motivated folks to become astronauts and consider things like warp drive. Do you recall Stephen Hawking making an appearance on TNG? Trek used to be fairly smart, or at least attempt it more often than not. (Warp 10 salamanders aside)
@scotteous2 жыл бұрын
"Did we reach 88 warp yet?" - Senile Picard (sorry mean Senior)
@ns05572122 жыл бұрын
“When this baby reaches warp 88, you’re gonna see some serious shit.” -Captain Emmett Brown
@OuttaMyMind9112 жыл бұрын
Calling it now: the Borg Queen we saw on the Stargazer was Jurati.
@harlowethrombey76652 жыл бұрын
For the record, you called it right.
@Ensign_Cthulhu Жыл бұрын
So this one is nitpicky and not a real problem but I feel a need to point it out anyway: the TOS and TNG warp scales are different, with the TNG scale having warp factors that are much faster than their TOS equivalent. Things get wonky but the point is that Warp 9.9 in Voyage Home, the fastest the HMS Bounty was traveling, is the equivalent of Warp 7.87 in the TNG scale. They shouldn’t have needed to go all the way to Warp 9+ to travel through time. Again, nitpicking here and this isn’t a real problem, but it does bother me just a little bit.
@RogueShadows2 жыл бұрын
I think it was meant as more of a callback to Sulu reading off the warp speeds as they closed on the sun with the ship threatening to come apart around them.
@Orca199042 жыл бұрын
In Voyager, Warp 10 caused some weird scenario where Janeway and Paris devolved to an ancestor species. Did that simply get retconned?
@satchelraidincoming6362 жыл бұрын
@@satchelraidincoming636 I don't think Warp 10 is necessary for time warp. Warp 9+ is necessary just to not get caught in the Sun's gravity well and end up fried chicken.
@stevieb64552 жыл бұрын
@@satchelraidincoming636 I dearly hope so because that episode was horrendous
@infinitehonkworks1952 жыл бұрын
The whole devolution thing is just an odd episode side effect for funky sci-fi story. Warp 10 is the unreachable boundary of the warp-scale, infinite speed. As you increase above 9 you're increasing to insane speeds, but hitting 10 and you're essentially everywhere in the universe at once (infinite). Have a way to control it and you can be anywhere you want. It's essentially analogue to light speed in reality.
@OmikronTitan2 жыл бұрын
How accurate is that view of earth from the sun, just seemed to close,
@jameseruera96422 жыл бұрын
i think Lea Thompson directed this episode...so i couldnt help but hear the music from Back to the Future when they time traveled in my head
@RPERIARTWORKS2 жыл бұрын
They pulled the Kirk maneuver LOL
@vladdracula58512 жыл бұрын
In Redshirts, the Scalzi satire novel, futuristic TV shows always travel back in time to one of two temporal locations: 1. a period in which something historically significant happens that the crew can meddle in, or 2. the time period in which the show was actually filmed And here we are again. I wonder if we're going to get some preachiness about modern times.
@ideologybot45922 жыл бұрын
If it's No. 2, then it's to keep production costs down, so settle down petal. I know your life has no meaning without Da Culture Warz, but we got a real one kickin' off now, so you can all get ready to burn some adrenaline and testosterone reeeeaaal soon.
@RogueBoyScout2 жыл бұрын
@@RogueBoyScout yeah, I kept watching. Damn, it was preachy. Damn near Sisco as Gabriel Bell preachy.
@ideologybot45922 жыл бұрын
@@ideologybot4592 So it's Star Trek? I hope they made it 2024 to have Sisko show up as Gabriel Bell. That would be a great tie in.
@greenhill0042 жыл бұрын
Are they gonna save the whales again? Wait I know, the Borg queen wants to assimilate the whales! “OOOOO RESIIIIIIISTAMCE IIIIIIISSSSS FuUuUUUUTIIIIILLLLE OOOOO...”
@spinlok39432 жыл бұрын
Christ - sorry to be a downer, but I hate the constant 'Crisis-mode' that new trek flips through. Every few minutes there's some crisis where we're supposed to believe a named character might die - then there's a small break, then something else goes wrong. Shock value has its place - and its place isn't every 5 minutes. Rant over XD
@duncancrickett92122 жыл бұрын
It is just bad writing, the entire show is directed and written by people who really do not understand Star Trek at all. And nor would they care even if someone could make them understand their shortcomings.
@norricdaoc87462 жыл бұрын
@@norricdaoc8746 Oh please your complain no matter who wrote it. You guys are like a bunch little kids who didn’t get the toy they wanted. If you don’t like the show. Why do keep watching the show. Normal people don’t watch things they don’t like:
@kenyettadoyle12002 жыл бұрын
Then don’t watch.
@kenyettadoyle12002 жыл бұрын
@@kenyettadoyle1200 the point is, Trek never used to be like this. It had stories that were likeable because of the quality of their content, they appealed to a specific type of person. Now they appeal to the people easily entertained by explosions and oblivious to any kind of subtlety.
@duncancrickett92122 жыл бұрын
I hear ya, it’s so frustrating. We get First Contact music with the Queen herself but can’t have a similar time vortex to get to Earth. Because if we did, you’d just come through it and be fine and there would be no unnecessary tension or conflict! These guys get so close to understanding Trek but then take stupid shortcuts to create needless tension. They just want the audience to ride the emotion and not think, which is sad for Trek and its history. Remember when DS9 went to 21st century earth with the Defiant and the ship wasn’t in constant danger? That was nice.
@scotteous2 жыл бұрын
Let’s do the time warp aaagggaaaiiinnn I’m halfway interested in watching this season.
@rayhill57672 жыл бұрын
It's BSG's hybrid cylon! Jump!
@Crunkboy4152 жыл бұрын
Picard can't blame Tori for crashing the ship this time!
@Qardo2 жыл бұрын
Troi
@FrankWolenczak Жыл бұрын
Not sure why the captain dude is telling them all what warp speed their at when it should be Picard saying it since.... you know... he's the one at the controls and stuff.
@arya81652 жыл бұрын
Again I find myself asking...they needed a Borg Queen to do what Kirk and his crew did with a Klingon Bird of Prey and a half Vulcan? If anything that was over a hundred years ago! And nobody! Nobody! found a better and safer way of doing this? Yes I imagine that such information and techniques were safely guarded but Picard due to his rank and position from the past never came across improved technology to make this a taaaad safer? Oh! Wait they did! in TNG they literally invented Metaphasic shielding to protect ships from the sun!
@JaguarCats2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, because a small crew stranded in a dystopia and hunted by essentially space Nazis would have all the time in the world, not to mention the resources, to find alternate solutions or install metaphasic shielding. It's not like their solution was in any way similar to the similarly-small crew of the Enterprise on a similarly-sized Bird of Prey having to make a similarly-quickfire decision in a similarly-desperate situation.
@bbchocolate93472 жыл бұрын
@@bbchocolate9347 valid point
@jonmyers80462 жыл бұрын
@@bbchocolate9347 exactly. they needed it then. right now. not in a little while. plus they had to clear their escape route by defeating multiple enemies who at the time had them far outgunned.
@Hobodeluxe9602 жыл бұрын
Picard was old and it wasn't like they could call for Door Dash and get a quick supercomputer to speedrun on how to sling shot the sun.
@b1gjoekrash2 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, Picard's jump needed to be a bit more precise, while Kirk only needed to get to the past where whales still existed, which gave him a bigger window of opportunity and needed less precision.
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
Did they forget Earth has TONS of Satellites in orbit that could maybe see them.
@MikMoen2 жыл бұрын
Even Star Trek 4 mention that, is which why they cloaked the ship before they landed on Earth.
@meghanhause94352 жыл бұрын
yeah... and if it is 2022 with all the tensions and all. Someone would definitively spot something that is entering Earth's atmosphere an changing course, to ground radar it would look like an supersonic icbm, over LA. West coast would fire everything they got at it and when it crashes and is obvious it was not an icbm, everything would be full of blackhawk helicopters within 10 minutes.
@DreamskyDance2 жыл бұрын
0:19 "The past is now." Sunset Shimmer: "The past is not today. That's my line, you cybernetic blowhard!" Wait a minute, maybe the leader of the Equestria Girls is the Watcher the Borg Queen tells Picard to look for. Reversing her catchphrase before warping into the sun gives it away.
@captainbeckyrayshoichetuss64182 жыл бұрын
0:45 "Ta loco"🤣🤣😂
@Albertojedi2 жыл бұрын
Gosh, she is my favorite part. Like seriously, this she is awesome. I like this direction even with some of the really stupid pathing the directors have chosen.
@wilfredjurassicyes2 жыл бұрын
Directors direct. It's the scriptwriters who come up with the story; I assume that's what you mean by "pathing?"
@MaskedMan66 Жыл бұрын
This is the real Roswell crash. Piccard is written into sci-fi to prepare the world for the announcement that we have a crashed space ship from the future with humans onboard. You read this here first.
@LudosErgoSum2 жыл бұрын
bruh, u cracked?
@user-jw8jn7lh8c2 жыл бұрын
Someone recalls the baseship hybrids from BSG - at least she didn't say "jump".
@dirdib692 жыл бұрын
How many sparks can leak out of the ship before it runs out?
@longblueknight2 жыл бұрын
Those conduits are crafted out of pure "explodium." As long as it's a Starfleet vessel, they'll never run out.
@HarvestMoonHowl2 жыл бұрын
It has self regenerating sparkonium generators. No problem.
@got2kittys2 жыл бұрын
that's always the best part, endless sparks and fires breaking out on the command deck
@Nobody-Nowhere2 жыл бұрын
Whoever is in the ceiling picked a bad time to weld up those new conduit brackets.
@MrOarson2 жыл бұрын
It's not the amount of sparks that should concern you, it's the amount of magic smoke leaking out. Without magic smoke the electronics will cease to function.
@Locahaskatexu2 жыл бұрын
The scenes in this Episode of Star Trek: Picard reminds me of the movie, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home from the year, 1986!
@kirbykok45442 жыл бұрын
Picard saves the day, again.
@adammiller66062 жыл бұрын
Earth's a little close to the sun there...
@hurrdurr2510 ай бұрын
Sad where this series has gone. Boldly gone.
@craigleblanc75242 жыл бұрын
"Captain the ship can't take much more of this Captain shields weakening"!!!! "The past is now the future, the future is now the past?!
@jaysartori90322 жыл бұрын
They don't have a cloak!
@gardeningandlife1372 жыл бұрын
And this, my friends, is how aliens land on Earth...
@jean-louislalonde60702 жыл бұрын
Do they not provide any lines of pseudoscientific gobbledegook to explain how they are slowly travelling across the surface of a star at faster-than-light speeds? Like, "this close to the gravitational field even though we're at warp the relative distances are stretched" or something like that?
@roystonlodge2 жыл бұрын
"We did a slingshot around the sun, like Kirk did who knows how many times." They even specifically mention Kirk when considering the maneuver. :) You do get some scientific babble out of the Borg Queen! This scene isn't complete in that regard.
@LegacyArkGames2 жыл бұрын
It's old canon..the gobbletygook was already provided decades ago. they literally spelled it out last episode...the "slingshot maneuver" is crude, but effective time travel....a way to break the warp 10 barrier and cross time AND space. Crude, because without a freaking genius (original crew had Spock, also lampshaded last episode) it's nigh-impossible to do accurately....nevermind the stress to the ship involved. it's one part luck, one part skill, and one part pure plot armor. (given that at least one semi-omnipotent race is involved in this storyline *Q* that plot armor may be more literal than normal)
@alexsolomon79912 жыл бұрын
At any warp speed, they would shoot past the sun in an instant. The slingshot maneuver doesn’t have to graze the sun to work.
@qdllc2 жыл бұрын
"We go fast around sun. Go back in time!"
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
@@alexsolomon7991 - It’s not that at all. What let the Enterprise time travel was a controlled implosion to restart the engines while trapped in a gravity well. In future applications, they used a star’s gravity. The idea is that when going fast enough while slingshotting around a strong gravity well, if you initiate a controlled implosion in the warp engines, it triggers the time travel issue. It was explained in a tech manual as inverting the warp field, so the ship was doing FTL in real space (not subspace) which enabled going backward or forward in time depending on the calculations used.
@qdllc2 жыл бұрын
Borg to the Future
@moviesgalore99472 жыл бұрын
I did not realize how much I missed Star Trek TV shows.
@grayclaw13912 жыл бұрын
And after watching this I still do...
@Roach222 жыл бұрын
I still watch
@davidduncan36592 жыл бұрын
TOS, TNG, DS9 but not this new woke Trek crap.
@ICECREAMAN17012 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad they didnt do the "Contact" face going from old to young during the warp drive ....
@jlo11952 жыл бұрын
0:52 - 1:02 Get ready to be transformed into salamanders once Warp 10 is reached, boys and girls!! 😃😄
@LGranthamsHeir2 жыл бұрын
That specific episode bugged me a lot. They had a means to get back to Earth instantly. The only problem was the "turn into salamanders" thing. But the Doctor solved that. He figured out how to reverse it for two different people so it wasn't a random fluke that he was able to save them. He had a cure. All they had to do was jump and then fix the stuff later. They even would have had enough time to jump to Earth and send a message with the cure information just in case the Doctor was overwhelmed and couldn't fix everyone in time. The only issue is that they didn't have any non-humans exposed to the effect to know if they would have had a different reaction.
@Blasted2Oblivion2 жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of that too. Thankfully, we had a Borg Queen doing it.
Nope, nobody will ever notice a multiple mile long trench goin right through a forest that just appeared overnight...
@DIVeltro Жыл бұрын
Take Professor X aboard and you get a typical X-men landing.
@marcusc99312 жыл бұрын
They were doing Warp 9.5 around the sun, then out of context ended up trapped in Earth's gravity? I get the sense of danger, tension and even why they wrote out the Jedi elf but what the heck happened in the 1 AU between Earth and the Sun there?
@dibaterman2 жыл бұрын
They were likely still going relativistic and decelerating. Time dilation would make the 8 light minute voyage seem a lot shorter, plus the rule of storytelling means leaving out the irrelevant moments of time.
@Tounushi2 жыл бұрын
Vaguely remember Janeway ordering Paris to jump Voyager to warp while in the gravity well of a planet, he mentioned they'd be stains on the back wall XD
@duncancrickett92122 жыл бұрын
Warp drive?
@personzorz2 жыл бұрын
a wizard did it
@adamwong2462 жыл бұрын
@@duncancrickett9212 so what? Star trek has never been consistent with how warp works. TOS had the Enterprise warping in reverse, and they never cared about where the ship was.
@DrewLSsix2 жыл бұрын
Time to spend the rest of the season in modern day Earth, oh what fun.
@williamcostigan912 жыл бұрын
Saves a ton of money for the budget!
@scotteous2 жыл бұрын
Why do sparks always come out of the ceilings 😂
@ThomaskellySr.2 жыл бұрын
Because that's where the EPS conduits usually are.
@mngentry2 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@lauraleecreations32172 жыл бұрын
I'm the Borg Queen, Suzanna is Captain Pickard, and she's not going anywhere.
@vladvlaovich99302 жыл бұрын
If I was going to crash my spaceship into LA I'd aim for Hollywood and come in guns blazing
@britpackdog45452 жыл бұрын
Extra style points if you can fly it through the first "O" in the Hollywood sign without hitting it.
@MrOarson2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully right through Alex Klutzman's office!
@samcochran82032 жыл бұрын
Maybe all the time travel explains why our world is so cooky now. Kirk in Star Trek 4, Picard in that Western Episode, First Contact, Sisko and crew, now this. Oh! Voyager crew also in L.A. Did Archer make it here too?
@cogentdesign2 жыл бұрын
Im going to say that the borg that destroyed the Stargazer is somehow the Q-tinuim asking for help from what I dont know, but it explains this: Q not being himself and Q's intrigue with humans etc? Hopefully there someone who can connect these dots better if they are there???
@petertorresiii16372 жыл бұрын
Or this can all be like the episode Starlight!?!? Years, decades all condense into 25 minute experience?
@petertorresiii16372 жыл бұрын
How about this: the Confederation is conquering. Eventually they will target the Q. That's why Q is unwell. He may have started this as a test/prank but it's got out of his control.
@WayneMcDougall2 жыл бұрын
easy the picard leads humanity against the borg, then attacks the Q
@magius-jo2gl2 жыл бұрын
*would be interesting to know if the Borg ever encountered the Nexus and how that would have altered their existence across the space time continuum*
@scottmantooth87852 жыл бұрын
@@WayneMcDougall yes
@petertorresiii16372 жыл бұрын
Wow slingshot effect
@ZGTH2 жыл бұрын
Everyone remember where we parked !
@mrselfishtk2 жыл бұрын
Damn the Earth is close to the sun...lol
@desertsoldier412 жыл бұрын
Ok... All in...I am looking up Season 2 and start watching...
@eXtremeFX20102 жыл бұрын
Earth would’ve been 1000 degrees if it were that close to the Sun
@eceozuduru51482 жыл бұрын
"Ohhhhhhh shit!"
@PoliticoCA2 жыл бұрын
...that's gonna leave a mark.
@thegreatbamboozler48372 жыл бұрын
Does the Queen have to account for where the Bounty is in their backward and forward slingshots in ST-IV? Or is the Bounty in another layer of subspace or something? 🤔
@stevieb64552 жыл бұрын
Or the TOS Enterprise on two different occasions
@VigilanteAgumon2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me why the show made Rafi more shaken by Elnor's death than Picard? I thought Picard goes way back with Elnor. But then again Season 1 was forgettable so I'm probably missing something.
@TeslaAI2 жыл бұрын
I guess the show's writers have decided to start ignoring their own lore in addition to the rest of the franchise's.
@davidbreen48302 жыл бұрын
Raffi was like a mother figure to Elnor, and he was like a surrogate son in replacement of her own son who left her. Picard's lost people under his command before as well, so he's more emotionally prepared.
@calumroberts12122 жыл бұрын
I guess the show went for Raffi being a surrogate mother figure to Elnor, eventhough that wasn't established.... If we're going by Season 1 logic, Elnor would have been Picards surrogate son....
@Mukation2 жыл бұрын
Because Picard is dead and this is a android Picard. He wouldn't have emotional attachments.
@romarqable2 жыл бұрын
@@romarqable Data had emotions.
@adamskyj692 жыл бұрын
Dammit, modern Trek, you are suppose to give us an optimistic future, not depressing near future!
@AnakinSkyobiliviator2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, that's what the narcissist Alex Klutzman in charge of all this shit wants people to see, he probably wants to see the world burn
@samcochran82032 жыл бұрын
Optemistic far far futere just wait 400 years
@definitlynotbenlente7671 Жыл бұрын
They have no idea how many virgins are waiting for them a gathering referred to as ... a "convention"
@cautiouslyhopeful2 жыл бұрын
1:40 🤓🔥
@hasoevo2 жыл бұрын
I always hated time travel. I Watch Star Trek to see the future, but they always blast me back to times I already live in. Well, Star Trek tradition
@michaeldiekmann64942 жыл бұрын
By this point in the franchise, it has been seriously overused. Star Trek IV got away with it because the whole film was made deliberately unserious. Star Trek: First Contact was set in such a sparsely populated area of the world that the fish-out-of-water trope didn't really get played - if anything, it's inverted, with the people in the destination outnumbered by the Starfleet characters, who are in a position to reveal themselves explicitly. I seriously hope this is the last time they use it to visit Earth in the characters' past, in this or any other timeline.
@Ensign_Cthulhu Жыл бұрын
I thought you couldn't go to warp within a star system, far less that close to a celestial body without warping the body with the warping of space.
@Meoknet2 жыл бұрын
*it's generally not recommended but sometimes you just gotta throw caution into the solar wind and see what happens*
@scottmantooth87852 жыл бұрын
They warp out of orbit all the time
@Mxyzptlksac2 жыл бұрын
There’s that episode in DS9 where they are forced to warp in a system to stop an explosive. I think it’s highly dangerous due to the obstacles, but warping from just out of orbit is alright due to distance? Isk.
@admirali.a.61752 жыл бұрын
physically you can, but normal Starfleet procedure probably requires that you drop out of warp a little further away then approach on impulse.
@tungsten82902 жыл бұрын
This was a manuver invented by Kirk, it's not gonna consider caution or safety
@TheGreyTurtleEntertainment2 жыл бұрын
Time travel always =jumping the shark.
@copee29609 ай бұрын
Why do there always have to be sparks raining down in the bridge? Haven't the engineers found a way to correct that yet?
@tbd-12 ай бұрын
(3:11) It's only less Angeles.😏
@truegrit20602 жыл бұрын
When I saw this I was all "they didn't!". My little sister went. "THERE BE WHALES HERE!"
@SgtSplatter7822 жыл бұрын
You better have given her a high five for that.
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
@@sleazybtd that and pizza
@SgtSplatter7822 жыл бұрын
@@SgtSplatter782 You sir, are an awesome big brother.
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is new anymore, it's just a new theme to an old idea. Transmissions that are in our cars are not new they're just rebuilt. Cars that get crushed are later sent to a blast furnace where it all gets sorted and melted. Even the cell phones that we carry....
@danielmarinucci93422 жыл бұрын
To me, Star Trek Discovery TV series is from the 1970s-1980s.
@jggerald78772 жыл бұрын
and I Be Ordering This On Bluray when It comes Out In November For MondayNights
@aaronhenley1840 Жыл бұрын
How do you jump back in time and loose fuel like back to the future?
@robertvillarreal46792 жыл бұрын
Borg queen 🎉
@PaintedMoonBlue Жыл бұрын
I guess the writer's forgot that there is a large un populated and mountainous area just 20 miles to the north of Los Angeles....yeah.
@Rob87292 жыл бұрын
Isn't there also a big-ass desert over to the east a little bit?
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
@@sleazybtd Yes but the big problem is, people are gonna have noticed the fireball as well as every radar with in range picking up the ship. It'd be seized within hours.
@vasileiosmela3092 жыл бұрын
@@sleazybtd On the other side of those mountains.
@Rob87292 жыл бұрын
@@vasileiosmela309 That would be the problem no matter where they decide to crash. It's not like "hey, let's crash in France. No one will ever notice". And by changing the crash location, didn't they extend the fireball and fly it over even more populated areas to get it from LA to France?
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
@@Rob8729 If it's all the same to you, I would prefer to crash my ship into sand than into mountains.
@sleazybtd2 жыл бұрын
Is this a reference to the episode of Star Trek: Voyager where Tom Paris achieved Warp 10 velocity?
@KMartin13112 жыл бұрын
Watch Star Trek IV. The one with the whales.
@Tounushi2 жыл бұрын
IT is a reference to star trek first contact when the borg queen travels back in time to the 21st century to turn EARTH into borg and picard and crew kill her. Guess all these people on this ship have memory issues
@tikvision2 жыл бұрын
@@Tounushi Nope, to TOS. Where time travel using the Sun is first time used.
@greengreeneya21022 жыл бұрын
@@greengreeneya2102 I'm really surprised actually that people dont try to mess stuff up in the past more often given that all you need to go back in time is apparently Spock and a star. Could probably replace Spock with a sophisticated computer and do the job just fine.
@johndracup34282 жыл бұрын
@@johndracup3428 It is dangerous.
@greengreeneya21022 жыл бұрын
Just how drunk i need to be to understand the logic behind it ?
@damiandamiano36512 жыл бұрын
With everything else they screwed up about star trek, I half expected them to say "Warp 10" without knowing what that means.
@Amaroq642 жыл бұрын
Great crew combination. We need more of this
@RogueWJL2 жыл бұрын
@@provisionalhypothesis yep. All good
@RogueWJL2 жыл бұрын
Great if you're a Marvel fan perhaps. Not a Star Trek fan.
@JazukaiX2 жыл бұрын
Read the book " How to Time Travel by Adm. James T . Kirk " Chapter One (1) . " Don't Do It " . Me ....... Too Much Math and I Don't have Pointy Ears .🖖
@johnrettig18802 жыл бұрын
This was pretty cool but seriously, they crash with the speed of mach 2 and it's even less rocky than a rollercoaster for kids
@xanderguldie2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Klingons tech was better in the past than the futures technology 👽
They really missed a trick by not having them pass Kirk's bird of prey coming the other way 🤣
Good thing they didn’t reach warp 10 or they would’ve turned into salamanders.
Hahaha!
Voyager reference
😂 I remember that episode
As long as they don’t go to plaid (Now I’m running away and giggling a lot)
I saw your comment in the beginning of the year and I'm glad to say I finally understand the reference 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Plot twist. Coming out of warp they hit a klingon bird of pray... Lol
...bread n' butter! ...bread n' butter!
But did the whales survive ???
no probably a train of starlink satelites in Earth's orbit.. XD
The actress of the Borg queen passed away from cancer. Rest in peace.
"Welcome to the Earth of the 21st century!" * Picard grimaces and thinks "Not this shit again"*
Haha I was thinking the same thing. Picard could literally go... ohh I remember this!! And worf was here and Geordi was in Montana hahaah
Cue Steppanwolf's, "Magic Carpet Ride." hahaha
@@ns0557212 And Data was there too with his cowboy suit 😃😄
wasnt he in 19 century not 21? In 21 there was Sisko, Janeway and even Archer but not him
@@hallowed000 I assume they're referring to First Contact
The transition from "wow we're in the past" to "shit were crashing" is too brutal.
Well this series isn't exactly known for pulling its punches.
Two things I hear in this scene. "9.1! 9.2! 9.3!" And "my gosh Jim where are we?? "Blind as a bat and out of control"
THERE BE WHALES HERE!
Get him back! GET HIM BACK!!!
@@jonmyers8046 amazing that ship could blast off with two ginormous whales
@@fakereality96 sarek"THERE!"
@@hybrid5568 "They're heading for the bridge!"
Wait a minute, the time warp drained their power, is that mean their going to look for Nuclear wessels?
Not in Alameda this go-around ;)
No they can't. They need to refill the Space continuum warp machine in order to jump back into the 24th century. In order to do that, they need to sacrifice children to the borg queen so she can taste the fear in their blood before devouring them and processing them into the energy needed for the space continuum warp machine to work.
@@provisionalhypothesis yeah clearly drunk when he came up with that philosophy
sure if they used a IKia of Prey like Kirk did. remember even the drunkest, blindest human, or guy that literary learned engineering like his his life depended on it in the next 5 mins is better then any Klingon one.
Admiral, there be whales here
Alright, Lets all Review the Checklist: 1. Fix the future, either by bringing something back, or making sure a past event happens. 2. Rebuild Dilithiam Crystals from a radiation source. Preferably from a nuclear reactor, like a Super Carrier, named Enterprise. 3. Execute Borg Queen before she can make the alternate Timeline from First Contact happen. Marty McFly: "Hey, wait, I've seen this one!"
Don’t forget bringing back the whales! Wait I know, the Borg queen wants to assimilate the whales! “OOOOO RESIIIIIIISTAMCE IIIIIIISSSSS FuUuUUUUTIIIIILLLLE OOOOO...”
@@spinlok3943 if only this was Disney+ would make for a perfect Dory crossover
Everyone remember where we parked.
@@amlvification We need a crossover into Black Adam's universe. That way, PIcard could slap his butt and yell, "This is what it feels like to hit Rock Bottom!"
Do they get to go to a glass manufacturer that hasn't got the transparent aluminum glass formula to have their own? In Picard's time, the glass formula could have improved vs Scotty's formula.
K, this is dumb. If time travel was that frickin' easy for the borg queen to accomplish in a ship not equipped in any way, shape, or form for time travel, the borg would have already done this repeatedly until the entire universe was borg.
There was a change in the past and she knew when, where, and what caused it. Just going back in time to any random point to make a change may not work in her favor. Plus it's a reference to when Spock did it. I've never seen first contact so I could be wrong, but the borg went back in time to do something like what you described in that movie. Plus, why would you assimilate a civilization that didn't even even survive long enough to exist in her time. Even if they were to go back in time and assimilate a species early. They be less advanced than they would be in the time she left.
My working theory is that the borg are highly advanced pakleds.
Perhaps dumb plots are enough for most people. In first contact the Borg used a highly specified ship that created a temporal vortex so they could time travel.
You grossly overestimate the power of time travel. The time that the borg knows the best is the present, so why not take over the universe in the present? I get that it is too convenient of a plot device, but that doesn’t mean there can’t possibly be a reason.
They have already... With TNG crew's first movie... (Remember First Contact?) They just so happened to destroy the BORG sphere queen who figured out how before she could return with the knowledge to their time in the Delta Quadrant...
"Go backward to go forward!" The Borg Queen has seen Ready Player One?? o.O
Picard walked on a hundred worlds wearing only Starfleet pajamas, only to meet his end by forgetting to wear his mask during an Earth pandemic...
Don't forget Picard is inside a brand new body that I'm sure is more resistant against any viruses or germs 🤔😊
@@LGranthamsHeir He would probably have immunity from any 20th century disease, it would more likely to infect the 20th century population with a 25th century pathogen!
@VHTesla Aw shit....he forgot his PT belt he's screwed...
this comment made me so furious that i wanted to smash everything in sight, but then i ate a candy bar and everything is ok.
This aged well….
You must admit that warp jump was pretty cool
It’s pretty awesome.
@@alfredvalrie5541 just like when they went back to Time to save the whale's
Ya know, if they'd said "warp 10" it would have solved so many issues with that one Voyager episode.
Good luck exploring Earth as lizards, ya nerds!
That's a strong ship to survive an uncontrolled reentry into earth's atmosphere
The thing just skimmed the sun. But reentry is supposed to be a problem?
@@seta-san2149 it doesn't help when you hit a hard object like a planet
@@seta-san2149 surface is the sun aint that hot (5k?) that's nothing in compare to a force landing on a planet + the atmosphere being ticvk and so on
@@namonamo494 It is actually a lot compared to reentry temperatures... they also didn't impact at a 90°, the hull is incredibly strong, and inertial dampeners were still operational.
@@namonamo494 LOL
3:05 Rios: "More like a targeted crash!" Jurati: "In Los Angeles? We can't crash a spaceship into one of the most populated cities on this world!" Kelvin-verse Kirk: "Yes, you can!" (RIP tens of thousand unseen San Franscisco residents post "Into Darkness")😄😃
Picard: "Young man, I've met James T. Kirk. You are not him."
@@kevlonk It's Kelvin-verse Kirk, so for some die-hard TOS fans, he never existed in the first place
Oh look a dialog repeater ! I bet you’re a blast at movie theaters … spurting out dialog and telling friends what’s happening on the screen .
Kirk never crashed a ship into San Francisco.... did you even watch the movie?
That was Cumberkhan.
They could have made the size of earth from the sun more realistic.
that would have totally made time traveling, phasers and borgs realistic
So these guys have a laser gun shootout, then they're traveling faster than light in a ship that got hijacked by a cyborg space queen who lost all her subjects, and are attempting to travel through time, and yet your problem is the size of the Earth from the sun is not realistic? Seriously?
@@sleazybtd Have you seen Star Trek?
@@DaveJablonski Of course I have. I especially loved the part where they blew up the Death Star.
@@DaveJablonski have you? When have they ever gotten this kind of thing right? In generations they watched a sun explode in real time, in TNG they drifted almost 1AU inside a Dyson sphere in a matter of hours at most, the pilot episode placed them at a system about 3000 lightyears from earth (Farpoint) a journey that should take years, yet they make it with a partial crew on their first mission amd make multiple trips back to earth while intermittently exploring beyond that edge of known space. Let's see..... the motion picture AND Generations have the ship traversing the solar system at significantly faster than the speed of light while under impulse, multiple episodes have the ship traveling to multiple destinations in a single day when even extreme high warp places individual solarsystems hours apart at best, earth to our closest star is over a day away at warp 9 btw.
I wish you would have included the part right before this where the queen hooked up and said, "Calculating temporal trajectory. Initiating tachyon splinter radiation bursts. Neutralizing threats." And then blows the hell out of those two ships. Such a cool moment.
With one shot each! Loved it
They uploaded it on another vid
Borg Queen: "Up is down, black is white, dogs are cats, and Christmas is in July!"
Rios: "Why the hell did you plug this crazy cyborg into my ship again???!!" Jurati "It was Seven's idea!" Seven: "Oh thanks, Agnes!"
She sounds like a Wonderland version of the Queen.. "I'm going to send your future self into the past"
“The Borg Queen went on to prove that black is white and was promptly killed at the next Zebra crossing”
@@gargoyles9999 LOL. Off with her cybernetic head!
"Speed up to slow down. Walk before you crawl."
My God Jim where are we? Blind as a bat and out of control.... Admiral, there be whales here!
Well done, Mr. Scott.
Wow for only 37% navigation control they sure nailed that landing.
Did you not listen to Cristobal? It was a targeted crash! 🤣
Hell, you should see 36%
This episode, the time travel episode, was directed by Lea Thompson from Back to the Future.
I wish Rios said "ummmm this isn't good guys, the borg queen is monologuing!!!"
ROFLMAO 🤣😭
All those cool Starfleet ships in the first episode to end up back on the USS Loft apartment.
I want the Stargazer back, dammit! Give us a proper Starfleet ship instead of the Discount Normandy!
That's a great name for it. I love it.
Shhh… the La Sirena is a beautiful lady. Shame you’re too much of a child to recognise that.
@@NeptuneCheeseCake go and watch some Discovery. I bet you have never even watched the majesty that is TNG.
@@solidoperative son, I’ve watched more episodes of Star Trek than you’ve had pimples. The La Sirena is beautiful.
They are flying close enough to the sun that flares reach above the ship, and the curvature is still visible. In that shot the sun would be less than 100 km in diameter.
oh no.. this is not reality?
Those flares can be huge.
@@sleazybtd exactly. 100,000km or more
Kurtzman and Co. have no clue.
I think it’s fair to ask for semi-accurate science from Trek. The series that literally motivated folks to become astronauts and consider things like warp drive. Do you recall Stephen Hawking making an appearance on TNG? Trek used to be fairly smart, or at least attempt it more often than not. (Warp 10 salamanders aside)
"Did we reach 88 warp yet?" - Senile Picard (sorry mean Senior)
“When this baby reaches warp 88, you’re gonna see some serious shit.” -Captain Emmett Brown
Calling it now: the Borg Queen we saw on the Stargazer was Jurati.
For the record, you called it right.
So this one is nitpicky and not a real problem but I feel a need to point it out anyway: the TOS and TNG warp scales are different, with the TNG scale having warp factors that are much faster than their TOS equivalent. Things get wonky but the point is that Warp 9.9 in Voyage Home, the fastest the HMS Bounty was traveling, is the equivalent of Warp 7.87 in the TNG scale. They shouldn’t have needed to go all the way to Warp 9+ to travel through time. Again, nitpicking here and this isn’t a real problem, but it does bother me just a little bit.
I think it was meant as more of a callback to Sulu reading off the warp speeds as they closed on the sun with the ship threatening to come apart around them.
In Voyager, Warp 10 caused some weird scenario where Janeway and Paris devolved to an ancestor species. Did that simply get retconned?
@@satchelraidincoming636 I don't think Warp 10 is necessary for time warp. Warp 9+ is necessary just to not get caught in the Sun's gravity well and end up fried chicken.
@@satchelraidincoming636 I dearly hope so because that episode was horrendous
The whole devolution thing is just an odd episode side effect for funky sci-fi story. Warp 10 is the unreachable boundary of the warp-scale, infinite speed. As you increase above 9 you're increasing to insane speeds, but hitting 10 and you're essentially everywhere in the universe at once (infinite). Have a way to control it and you can be anywhere you want. It's essentially analogue to light speed in reality.
How accurate is that view of earth from the sun, just seemed to close,
i think Lea Thompson directed this episode...so i couldnt help but hear the music from Back to the Future when they time traveled in my head
They pulled the Kirk maneuver LOL
In Redshirts, the Scalzi satire novel, futuristic TV shows always travel back in time to one of two temporal locations: 1. a period in which something historically significant happens that the crew can meddle in, or 2. the time period in which the show was actually filmed And here we are again. I wonder if we're going to get some preachiness about modern times.
If it's No. 2, then it's to keep production costs down, so settle down petal. I know your life has no meaning without Da Culture Warz, but we got a real one kickin' off now, so you can all get ready to burn some adrenaline and testosterone reeeeaaal soon.
@@RogueBoyScout yeah, I kept watching. Damn, it was preachy. Damn near Sisco as Gabriel Bell preachy.
@@ideologybot4592 So it's Star Trek? I hope they made it 2024 to have Sisko show up as Gabriel Bell. That would be a great tie in.
Are they gonna save the whales again? Wait I know, the Borg queen wants to assimilate the whales! “OOOOO RESIIIIIIISTAMCE IIIIIIISSSSS FuUuUUUUTIIIIILLLLE OOOOO...”
Christ - sorry to be a downer, but I hate the constant 'Crisis-mode' that new trek flips through. Every few minutes there's some crisis where we're supposed to believe a named character might die - then there's a small break, then something else goes wrong. Shock value has its place - and its place isn't every 5 minutes. Rant over XD
It is just bad writing, the entire show is directed and written by people who really do not understand Star Trek at all. And nor would they care even if someone could make them understand their shortcomings.
@@norricdaoc8746 Oh please your complain no matter who wrote it. You guys are like a bunch little kids who didn’t get the toy they wanted. If you don’t like the show. Why do keep watching the show. Normal people don’t watch things they don’t like:
Then don’t watch.
@@kenyettadoyle1200 the point is, Trek never used to be like this. It had stories that were likeable because of the quality of their content, they appealed to a specific type of person. Now they appeal to the people easily entertained by explosions and oblivious to any kind of subtlety.
I hear ya, it’s so frustrating. We get First Contact music with the Queen herself but can’t have a similar time vortex to get to Earth. Because if we did, you’d just come through it and be fine and there would be no unnecessary tension or conflict! These guys get so close to understanding Trek but then take stupid shortcuts to create needless tension. They just want the audience to ride the emotion and not think, which is sad for Trek and its history. Remember when DS9 went to 21st century earth with the Defiant and the ship wasn’t in constant danger? That was nice.
Let’s do the time warp aaagggaaaiiinnn I’m halfway interested in watching this season.
It's BSG's hybrid cylon! Jump!
Picard can't blame Tori for crashing the ship this time!
Troi
Not sure why the captain dude is telling them all what warp speed their at when it should be Picard saying it since.... you know... he's the one at the controls and stuff.
Again I find myself asking...they needed a Borg Queen to do what Kirk and his crew did with a Klingon Bird of Prey and a half Vulcan? If anything that was over a hundred years ago! And nobody! Nobody! found a better and safer way of doing this? Yes I imagine that such information and techniques were safely guarded but Picard due to his rank and position from the past never came across improved technology to make this a taaaad safer? Oh! Wait they did! in TNG they literally invented Metaphasic shielding to protect ships from the sun!
Ah yes, because a small crew stranded in a dystopia and hunted by essentially space Nazis would have all the time in the world, not to mention the resources, to find alternate solutions or install metaphasic shielding. It's not like their solution was in any way similar to the similarly-small crew of the Enterprise on a similarly-sized Bird of Prey having to make a similarly-quickfire decision in a similarly-desperate situation.
@@bbchocolate9347 valid point
@@bbchocolate9347 exactly. they needed it then. right now. not in a little while. plus they had to clear their escape route by defeating multiple enemies who at the time had them far outgunned.
Picard was old and it wasn't like they could call for Door Dash and get a quick supercomputer to speedrun on how to sling shot the sun.
As I understand it, Picard's jump needed to be a bit more precise, while Kirk only needed to get to the past where whales still existed, which gave him a bigger window of opportunity and needed less precision.
Did they forget Earth has TONS of Satellites in orbit that could maybe see them.
Even Star Trek 4 mention that, is which why they cloaked the ship before they landed on Earth.
yeah... and if it is 2022 with all the tensions and all. Someone would definitively spot something that is entering Earth's atmosphere an changing course, to ground radar it would look like an supersonic icbm, over LA. West coast would fire everything they got at it and when it crashes and is obvious it was not an icbm, everything would be full of blackhawk helicopters within 10 minutes.
0:19 "The past is now." Sunset Shimmer: "The past is not today. That's my line, you cybernetic blowhard!" Wait a minute, maybe the leader of the Equestria Girls is the Watcher the Borg Queen tells Picard to look for. Reversing her catchphrase before warping into the sun gives it away.
0:45 "Ta loco"🤣🤣😂
Gosh, she is my favorite part. Like seriously, this she is awesome. I like this direction even with some of the really stupid pathing the directors have chosen.
Directors direct. It's the scriptwriters who come up with the story; I assume that's what you mean by "pathing?"
This is the real Roswell crash. Piccard is written into sci-fi to prepare the world for the announcement that we have a crashed space ship from the future with humans onboard. You read this here first.
bruh, u cracked?
Someone recalls the baseship hybrids from BSG - at least she didn't say "jump".
How many sparks can leak out of the ship before it runs out?
Those conduits are crafted out of pure "explodium." As long as it's a Starfleet vessel, they'll never run out.
It has self regenerating sparkonium generators. No problem.
that's always the best part, endless sparks and fires breaking out on the command deck
Whoever is in the ceiling picked a bad time to weld up those new conduit brackets.
It's not the amount of sparks that should concern you, it's the amount of magic smoke leaking out. Without magic smoke the electronics will cease to function.
The scenes in this Episode of Star Trek: Picard reminds me of the movie, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home from the year, 1986!
Picard saves the day, again.
Earth's a little close to the sun there...
Sad where this series has gone. Boldly gone.
"Captain the ship can't take much more of this Captain shields weakening"!!!! "The past is now the future, the future is now the past?!
They don't have a cloak!
And this, my friends, is how aliens land on Earth...
Do they not provide any lines of pseudoscientific gobbledegook to explain how they are slowly travelling across the surface of a star at faster-than-light speeds? Like, "this close to the gravitational field even though we're at warp the relative distances are stretched" or something like that?
"We did a slingshot around the sun, like Kirk did who knows how many times." They even specifically mention Kirk when considering the maneuver. :) You do get some scientific babble out of the Borg Queen! This scene isn't complete in that regard.
It's old canon..the gobbletygook was already provided decades ago. they literally spelled it out last episode...the "slingshot maneuver" is crude, but effective time travel....a way to break the warp 10 barrier and cross time AND space. Crude, because without a freaking genius (original crew had Spock, also lampshaded last episode) it's nigh-impossible to do accurately....nevermind the stress to the ship involved. it's one part luck, one part skill, and one part pure plot armor. (given that at least one semi-omnipotent race is involved in this storyline *Q* that plot armor may be more literal than normal)
At any warp speed, they would shoot past the sun in an instant. The slingshot maneuver doesn’t have to graze the sun to work.
"We go fast around sun. Go back in time!"
@@alexsolomon7991 - It’s not that at all. What let the Enterprise time travel was a controlled implosion to restart the engines while trapped in a gravity well. In future applications, they used a star’s gravity. The idea is that when going fast enough while slingshotting around a strong gravity well, if you initiate a controlled implosion in the warp engines, it triggers the time travel issue. It was explained in a tech manual as inverting the warp field, so the ship was doing FTL in real space (not subspace) which enabled going backward or forward in time depending on the calculations used.
Borg to the Future
I did not realize how much I missed Star Trek TV shows.
And after watching this I still do...
I still watch
TOS, TNG, DS9 but not this new woke Trek crap.
I'm just glad they didnt do the "Contact" face going from old to young during the warp drive ....
0:52 - 1:02 Get ready to be transformed into salamanders once Warp 10 is reached, boys and girls!! 😃😄
That specific episode bugged me a lot. They had a means to get back to Earth instantly. The only problem was the "turn into salamanders" thing. But the Doctor solved that. He figured out how to reverse it for two different people so it wasn't a random fluke that he was able to save them. He had a cure. All they had to do was jump and then fix the stuff later. They even would have had enough time to jump to Earth and send a message with the cure information just in case the Doctor was overwhelmed and couldn't fix everyone in time. The only issue is that they didn't have any non-humans exposed to the effect to know if they would have had a different reaction.
I immediately thought of that too. Thankfully, we had a Borg Queen doing it.
@@poopsanchez6449 So ironic, isn't it 😄😆
@@LGranthamsHeir Ironic how? It's the Borg. They've achieved transwarp ages ago.
Sir, the breaking thrusters have fired.
Nope, nobody will ever notice a multiple mile long trench goin right through a forest that just appeared overnight...
Take Professor X aboard and you get a typical X-men landing.
They were doing Warp 9.5 around the sun, then out of context ended up trapped in Earth's gravity? I get the sense of danger, tension and even why they wrote out the Jedi elf but what the heck happened in the 1 AU between Earth and the Sun there?
They were likely still going relativistic and decelerating. Time dilation would make the 8 light minute voyage seem a lot shorter, plus the rule of storytelling means leaving out the irrelevant moments of time.
Vaguely remember Janeway ordering Paris to jump Voyager to warp while in the gravity well of a planet, he mentioned they'd be stains on the back wall XD
Warp drive?
a wizard did it
@@duncancrickett9212 so what? Star trek has never been consistent with how warp works. TOS had the Enterprise warping in reverse, and they never cared about where the ship was.
Time to spend the rest of the season in modern day Earth, oh what fun.
Saves a ton of money for the budget!
Why do sparks always come out of the ceilings 😂
Because that's where the EPS conduits usually are.
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I'm the Borg Queen, Suzanna is Captain Pickard, and she's not going anywhere.
If I was going to crash my spaceship into LA I'd aim for Hollywood and come in guns blazing
Extra style points if you can fly it through the first "O" in the Hollywood sign without hitting it.
Hopefully right through Alex Klutzman's office!
Maybe all the time travel explains why our world is so cooky now. Kirk in Star Trek 4, Picard in that Western Episode, First Contact, Sisko and crew, now this. Oh! Voyager crew also in L.A. Did Archer make it here too?
Im going to say that the borg that destroyed the Stargazer is somehow the Q-tinuim asking for help from what I dont know, but it explains this: Q not being himself and Q's intrigue with humans etc? Hopefully there someone who can connect these dots better if they are there???
Or this can all be like the episode Starlight!?!? Years, decades all condense into 25 minute experience?
How about this: the Confederation is conquering. Eventually they will target the Q. That's why Q is unwell. He may have started this as a test/prank but it's got out of his control.
easy the picard leads humanity against the borg, then attacks the Q
*would be interesting to know if the Borg ever encountered the Nexus and how that would have altered their existence across the space time continuum*
@@WayneMcDougall yes
Wow slingshot effect
Everyone remember where we parked !
Damn the Earth is close to the sun...lol
Ok... All in...I am looking up Season 2 and start watching...
Earth would’ve been 1000 degrees if it were that close to the Sun
"Ohhhhhhh shit!"
...that's gonna leave a mark.
Does the Queen have to account for where the Bounty is in their backward and forward slingshots in ST-IV? Or is the Bounty in another layer of subspace or something? 🤔
Or the TOS Enterprise on two different occasions
Can anyone tell me why the show made Rafi more shaken by Elnor's death than Picard? I thought Picard goes way back with Elnor. But then again Season 1 was forgettable so I'm probably missing something.
I guess the show's writers have decided to start ignoring their own lore in addition to the rest of the franchise's.
Raffi was like a mother figure to Elnor, and he was like a surrogate son in replacement of her own son who left her. Picard's lost people under his command before as well, so he's more emotionally prepared.
I guess the show went for Raffi being a surrogate mother figure to Elnor, eventhough that wasn't established.... If we're going by Season 1 logic, Elnor would have been Picards surrogate son....
Because Picard is dead and this is a android Picard. He wouldn't have emotional attachments.
@@romarqable Data had emotions.
Dammit, modern Trek, you are suppose to give us an optimistic future, not depressing near future!
Sadly, that's what the narcissist Alex Klutzman in charge of all this shit wants people to see, he probably wants to see the world burn
Optemistic far far futere just wait 400 years
They have no idea how many virgins are waiting for them a gathering referred to as ... a "convention"
1:40 🤓🔥
I always hated time travel. I Watch Star Trek to see the future, but they always blast me back to times I already live in. Well, Star Trek tradition
By this point in the franchise, it has been seriously overused. Star Trek IV got away with it because the whole film was made deliberately unserious. Star Trek: First Contact was set in such a sparsely populated area of the world that the fish-out-of-water trope didn't really get played - if anything, it's inverted, with the people in the destination outnumbered by the Starfleet characters, who are in a position to reveal themselves explicitly. I seriously hope this is the last time they use it to visit Earth in the characters' past, in this or any other timeline.
I thought you couldn't go to warp within a star system, far less that close to a celestial body without warping the body with the warping of space.
*it's generally not recommended but sometimes you just gotta throw caution into the solar wind and see what happens*
They warp out of orbit all the time
There’s that episode in DS9 where they are forced to warp in a system to stop an explosive. I think it’s highly dangerous due to the obstacles, but warping from just out of orbit is alright due to distance? Isk.
physically you can, but normal Starfleet procedure probably requires that you drop out of warp a little further away then approach on impulse.
This was a manuver invented by Kirk, it's not gonna consider caution or safety
Time travel always =jumping the shark.
Why do there always have to be sparks raining down in the bridge? Haven't the engineers found a way to correct that yet?
(3:11) It's only less Angeles.😏
When I saw this I was all "they didn't!". My little sister went. "THERE BE WHALES HERE!"
You better have given her a high five for that.
@@sleazybtd that and pizza
@@SgtSplatter782 You sir, are an awesome big brother.
Nothing is new anymore, it's just a new theme to an old idea. Transmissions that are in our cars are not new they're just rebuilt. Cars that get crushed are later sent to a blast furnace where it all gets sorted and melted. Even the cell phones that we carry....
To me, Star Trek Discovery TV series is from the 1970s-1980s.
and I Be Ordering This On Bluray when It comes Out In November For MondayNights
How do you jump back in time and loose fuel like back to the future?
Borg queen 🎉
I guess the writer's forgot that there is a large un populated and mountainous area just 20 miles to the north of Los Angeles....yeah.
Isn't there also a big-ass desert over to the east a little bit?
@@sleazybtd Yes but the big problem is, people are gonna have noticed the fireball as well as every radar with in range picking up the ship. It'd be seized within hours.
@@sleazybtd On the other side of those mountains.
@@vasileiosmela309 That would be the problem no matter where they decide to crash. It's not like "hey, let's crash in France. No one will ever notice". And by changing the crash location, didn't they extend the fireball and fly it over even more populated areas to get it from LA to France?
@@Rob8729 If it's all the same to you, I would prefer to crash my ship into sand than into mountains.
Is this a reference to the episode of Star Trek: Voyager where Tom Paris achieved Warp 10 velocity?
Watch Star Trek IV. The one with the whales.
IT is a reference to star trek first contact when the borg queen travels back in time to the 21st century to turn EARTH into borg and picard and crew kill her. Guess all these people on this ship have memory issues
@@Tounushi Nope, to TOS. Where time travel using the Sun is first time used.
@@greengreeneya2102 I'm really surprised actually that people dont try to mess stuff up in the past more often given that all you need to go back in time is apparently Spock and a star. Could probably replace Spock with a sophisticated computer and do the job just fine.
@@johndracup3428 It is dangerous.
Just how drunk i need to be to understand the logic behind it ?
With everything else they screwed up about star trek, I half expected them to say "Warp 10" without knowing what that means.
Great crew combination. We need more of this
@@provisionalhypothesis yep. All good
Great if you're a Marvel fan perhaps. Not a Star Trek fan.
Read the book " How to Time Travel by Adm. James T . Kirk " Chapter One (1) . " Don't Do It " . Me ....... Too Much Math and I Don't have Pointy Ears .🖖
This was pretty cool but seriously, they crash with the speed of mach 2 and it's even less rocky than a rollercoaster for kids
Looks like the Klingons tech was better in the past than the futures technology 👽