Dutch Eurovision act Joost Klein barred from dress rehearsal as investigation launched | ITV News
The Netherland's Eurovision act Joost Klein will not perform in a second dress rehearsal for the grand final while an investigation into an unspecified “incident” continues, the organisers have said.
A week of controversy and protest ended with crisis meetings and the mysterious suspension of the 26-year-old Dutch rapper who qualified at the Malmo Arena venue in Sweden on Thursday evening with his up-tempo song Europapa, a tribute to his late parents.
Israel's participation in Eurovision as the war in Gaza rages has meant politics has dominated an event which strives to be apolitical, with pro-Palestinian protests calling for a boycott of the competition.
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The EBU not being clear about this is probably the most annoying thing about all this
Well he himself is not saying anything aswell. But seeing as police is involved.. And he is not allowed to preform for the jury show.. It's safe to say he is out. What happend? No one knows. But the rumor is he did a Adolv H and hit a cameraman.
@@devo2 NDA
@@devo2camerawoman
I think they are very clear about what happened but discuss what would be the lesser evil of actions to take. I've even heard rumors that somone from the Spanish team was attacked by one of the Israely delegation as well. IMO while I like the song Israel put up, EBU should have excluded Israel this year from the competition because of its ongoing military operation against mostly civilian people. While ESC should NOT be about politics, we have strong political influences since 2015 where Russia was heavily booed in Vienna even thouth the artist, who had a really sweet and catchy song, wasn't responsible for any of the actions. I'm neither pro Israel nor pro Palestine. Both of them did their best to lead to the escalation we had to witness in the past few month and politicians had literally decades worth of time to settle the conflict in that region but didn't care back then.
it's looking like an EBU stick up since Joost was the most vocal about Israel (evidence is in the post semi final interviews) they'll find any excuse to exclude him
United by music❌ Divided by music✅
United by music! Divided by Joost
@@Channiej93 divided by isnotreal you mean?
United by music, divided by EBU
@@lorenzo_smit mijn hersenen doen pijn na het urenlang toegeven aan Joost juice 😫
@Channiej93 Divided by toast 🙀
I love Eurovision. But nowadays, instead of "United by Music" "Divided by politics" may be a better slogan...
Not "united" by music actually
@@AlexCaspianexactly
Eurovision was never about music and every single european knows it. Every philia and every phobia of european countries comes out at eurovision every year.
A simple example of why Eurovision is only politics - there is no Russia and Belarus.
@@nikson9334 killing civilians and invading foreign countries is not "politics" for your information
@@donotreply69 war is a continuation of politics, a classic.
@@donotreply69it’s exactly politics, when the wrangling fails…
@@nikson9334russiaisaterroriststate
Eurovision is just political not about music at alll
That's the fault of a loud minority in the fan base tho
@@leeroydaanknz5064it always is!
In life, EVERYTHING is Political. Thinking otherwise makes you ignorant.
@@clivesmith9377everything CAN be political, not everything is.
First of all, what does 'euro' means? Some country's are not so 'euro' at all and then they are at war... But the Songfestival is all about politics and or woke people... The more drama, the better it is?
If it was apolitical why did they stop Russia?
because ukraine is also in eurovision, that would mever be able to work
Disclaimer, I’m not in favor of Israel being included here in anyway Cause by technicality, they didn’t declare their intentions for war with Palestine, rather they were “retaliating” in response to the October incident. It’s how ESC was able to keep Israel in the running, and under the guise of ESC being an apolitical event, could ban event goers and contestants from displaying any paraphernalia that was in support of Palestine for fear of causing outrage or even violence. They demanded Irelands contestant Bambie Thug from including an ancient Celtic writing that when translated spelt ceasefire that was included in her makeup for her number. The artist Eric Saade was able to work around and wore a keffiyeh on stage as he’s half Palestinian, but he’s been getting backlash by event organizers after his guest performance in the semifinals
It could have been a Christmas 1914 moment but some folks just love to hate.
@@cheesyfeetgeoguessr4651then they need to stop Ukraine too, otherwise is not fair.....
@@dieweienengeln3899 You don't think it's fair for a victim of an illegal and g*nocidal invasion to celebrate their culture? Wow
Obvious question, why are non European artists in the EUROvision contest?🧐
because 1sra3l bought its entrance ticket. they gave them money when EBU started in 1950. I have no idea why the british and ''those people'' are so intertwined but they are.
And why is England in it? No longer Europe. And why is it all music for clowns?🤡
@@Rat-Salad i hope you are a kid because being this dumb is pretty in inexcusable above the age of 18
And why algerian Slimane sung?
@@wesselsi3791 Well, many Israelis spent several generations in Europe. So, "those people" may actually be Europeans also. It seems to be an unfortunate choice of a name.
Voltaire - ‘If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you are not allowed to criticise.’
Voltaire never said this. It was actually said by a far right person.
@@Gulitize And it's a lame quote.
So which one it is? Because Eden(singer for Israel) was told the change the lyrics for the song or she won't participate.(if you listen to lyrics its very obvious what words she changed) Ireland was told to take off Palestinian flag when the singer for that wanted to put it up during her performance.
@@Gulitize From Chatgpt: "The quote you mentioned is often attributed to Voltaire, the French Enlightenment writer and philosopher. However, there's some debate about its actual origin, with some suggesting it could be from a white supremacist named Kevin Strom in 1993. Nonetheless, it's most commonly associated with Voltaire."
it’s the jury show not dress rehearsal…
It is the one and same show, but that is not the issue hier...
I believe its formally known as the Second Dress Rehearsal, but better known as the Jury Show for obvious reasons.
The jury show is officially called Dress Rehearsal 2 by the organisers.
It is a shame that the Eurovision is about politics and not actual music
Shame that they banned russia and belarus
It's always been about politics
Eurosong should invite Independent Russian and Belarus artists and finance them. As long as they are not picked by Putin and Lukashenko.
@@SCP--ck5ip Totally. It was always the country with the most left-wing politics, ticking off the leftwing checklist, that wins. Netherlands is very leftwing.
@@jeanettejeanette1199 Netherlands is literally ruled by a far right party
He had one boundary, not being filmed when leaving the stage and going backstage after the final emotional bit of singing for him about losing his parents at a young age. The woman ignored it every time and was rude. He just pushed a camera away nothing happend to the lady.... EBU is not right in the head.
The slogan is not anymore "United by music", but "United by politic" and Sunak can shut his mouth..
Eurovision is not UNITED COLORS of Benetton!
For all the non Dutch people: you pronnounce Joost like toast. So Joast. And Klein, like klein in Calvin Klein
and the J in Joast is pronounced like the y in yogurt and not j like jeans
Really? Okay, if you say so, I'll take you're word for it
Sterk hoor😊😊
@@user-hb1ec8bn9f and joost is toast
No we don't pronounce Klein like that... Calvin Klein is pronounced in the German way. In Dutch it is more of a wider "e". Joost is like toast but the J is not like JAY, instead it is like the Y in young. Yoast.
The hypocracy is real
She can't do anything about it, she is against war, why take it out on her as if it is her fault
What are you talking about?
@@dgholland6865 Cause the Israeli team have made everything about this performance political. Having people dress people in soldier uniforms in there own national final and writing 2 songs rejected for political themes. They brought this controversy on themselves and are again playing victim
Don't you think it's a bit silly to judge a young girl based on the actions of bunch of politicians. The same thing with the Russian girl a couple of years ago, everyone was booing her. She didn't deserve that. It's not her fault Putin decided to invade Ukriane. Blame the politicians instead of the preformers.@@bencollins1688
@@dgholland6865if she was actually against this genocide (use the right term please), she would be boycotting. why is she still performing if she's genuinely against it?
This should be the end of the Eurovisian Song Contest
No, of course not! There should be a valid and strong reason for this. Everybody likes the NL and im not being sarcastic. I really believe every country at the eurovision likes the NL and this is not policital but the singer might have done something that broke the rules.
Unfortunately it will carry on for many years😢
Agree
Official statement is out: 'An incident occurred after last Thursday's performance. Against clear agreements, Joost was filmed when he had just gotten off stage and had to rush to the greenroom. At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed. This was not heeded. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman. This incident was reported, followed by an investigation by the EBU and police. Yesterday and today we consulted extensively with the EBU and proposed various solutions. Nevertheless, the EBU has decided to disqualify Joost Klein. AvroTros finds the measure very heavy and disproportionate. We stand for good manners, let there be no misunderstanding about that, but in our view an exclusion measure is disproportionate to this incident. We are very disappointed and upset, also for all the millions of fans who were so excited for tonight. What Joost brought to the Netherlands and Europe should not have ended this way.'
12 middlefingers to Eurovision!
why _twelve,_ though?
@@WeeWeeJumbo Because 12 points hahaha! 😊
@@WeeWeeJumbo we had the same thought 😭😭
@@WeeWeeJumbono ypu didn't you liar
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If ESC is an apolitical event, that how come that they banned Russia? Interesting how the rules are in effect only when they need it. Its disgusting. If they want strong policies that its should apply to all.
I wonder the same!!
Russia is not a country, its an empire and empires are not allowed in Eurovision because its a backwards state
I wish Russia returns to the contest. ❤
Because Ukraine said so. Deal with it. Before they banned Georgia FOR being invaded by russia. Which was wrong. Now it is right. This Dutch guy makes concerts in russia and sings how he loves it so will be canceled, you like it or not. B)
i'm generally not political , but i think warmongers should NOT be able to participate . and that includes russia AND israel. i literally have no side here, but fact is they both are killing people. and ..that's just not what the eurovision is about.
Had to turn it off as it’s turned completely into the EuroQueer show.
It’s not a contest anymore. I don’t watch anymore. It’s no longer Europe.
Ok bye Na.zi!!
@@iv911so anyone that stops watching Eurovision is a now a nazi?
@@iv911shut up child
they give all these stars so much press and then have a problem when they say something. Ridiculous. It’s a song contest ffs, keep it as that.
You're saying it as if politics were never involved in Eurovision. Wasn't it last year that Ukraine won with a shitty song just because of the war? Edit: they won in 2022, my point still stands.
@@Eteriaa politics was always involved. Press conferences asking artists their thoughts is still stupid though. It’s putting the artists in a predicament over whether they stay silent and are complicit or whether they use their platform.
Sadly, he was throwing shade at the Jewish artist. He covered his face when sitting next to her so that he didn’t have to see her. That is really tacky and really poor sportsmanship. So I wish she got kicked off for just that reason. However, I really like his song and want him to do well.
WHEN will RUSSIA BE ALLOWED to return then???
@@EteriaaУкоаина победила, потому что не было ничего подобного, а на Евровидении ценится уникальность.
The Eurovision Song Contest is a freak show.
I agree 100% except Croatian singer. He actually has girlfriend. Can you belive that? 😄😄
@@deniszesto2883Don't expose him like that 😂. He won't get any votes if they find out he is not lgbt
@deniszesto2883 He must be a right wing fascist 😂
And it is getting weirder every year.
Yes, that's why we like it so much.
A-POLITICAL? YOU FORGOT ABOUT RUSSIA BEEN EXCLUDED??? nothing but political 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mordor is asia.
That's just no one wants to hear any more Hard Bass
And Ukraine won in 2022 due to pity votes from Europe lol 😅
So why not allow Russia in ?
Correct!!
EBU let the storm in, now they have to deal with it..
So true
Why are we blaming the victim tho?
Why aRe We BlAmInG the ViCtIm?!?!?!
@@leeroydaanknz5064 Who is the victim?
@@laraodabas5867 the people who just want a peaceful show
United by music Divided by the jury
EBU
JUSTICE FOR JOOST
JUSTICE!!!
I think there is not such thing as apolitical. Everything is politics in this world between nations and how they see the other nations. I saw the video camerawoman harassing Joost who asked several times her not to film. Woman didn't listen so Joost turned the camera away (not harming the woman ) who started screaming : Don't touch me ! several times. Well, I will predict this odd incident will be blessing in disguise for Joost. I checked his gig videos and damn he is good ! So let's book him for summer festivals.
The song festival as well as the Olympic games are political for years. They might as wel quit with it.
Everything is political, always.
Well said@@SculptExpress-gv8jp
Fully agree.
How is the Olympics polical?
@@aaronthebest5519They banned Russian athletes from competing under their national flag. Absurd especially when you consider what the ancient Olympic games were about
What about innocent til proven guilty? Let the man perform ffs
He was proven guilty in the eyes of the ebu, the police seem to think there's a case too otherwise they wouldn't go forward with the investigation
No! The show must NOT always go on!
Yes, especially when it's really just a 💩 Show.
According to Swedish media Joost is accused of violence/physical confrontation towards a photographer. Police is involved investigating, so it’s definitely not the comment shown in this video. I’m sure we’ll hear an official statement tomorrow.
Right, but no footage which makes this story very questionable. Sounds like it is all made up
@@MrBreakthompson there probably wouldn’t be a long investigation if there was footage proof. So i guess they’re trying to figure out what happened. Police involved is either way serious.
@@MrBreakthompsonI did come across a video of that supposed situation, but it didn't show any physical confrontation.
@@MrBreakthompson Do you say the same to women who report violence or sexual assault? No video so it sounds like you made it up girl. Could it be because you're a fanboy and you care more about NL winning than reality?
so ppl suddenly forgot how pathetic and annoying photographers are in music business?
Double standard is the standard of the western hegemonies
@alexlawcb...People have been saying this for decades. Many in the west are extremly arrogant, narcistic, self centerd i say this as a westener myself. Many of us see the double standard in alot things but our western societies look the other way. There wil be a moment where will be slapped hard in the face and its too late for us. Western leaders extreme hypocrits aswell.
Lol, EUROvision is a western thing. I'm afraid you'll just have to deal with reality.
Explain
@@tomergueta9125 You know it
@@tomergueta9125 if you know it, explanation is not required. And if you do not know it by now, I cannot help you.
Eurovision has *always* been political
He was a threat so they kicked him out. Shame on Europe to allow this. They should all have left the show.
Just a heads up: ITV and KZhead are banning certain comments.
Wow, we might not agree with it. It is the right seeing that. It is their channel.
@@kornykorhorn It's not their right. KZhead is like any tv channel or megazine, not a mere private company, so silencing us is full on censorship.
KZhead always does that. They don't support free speech
I missed already some of my comments 😂
If he gets disqualified, does that mean the UK technically won’t be last tomorrow night?
I don't wanna be last 😢😂
Germany
Nowadays it's usually Germany. And it probably will be this year too.
Have you heard the UK entry? Of course it's coming last.
It's memorable though - boring song and overly vulgar performance, but it's at the very least memorable. Which can't be said for entries like German song. It likely won't be last.
That is so unfair and frustrating. First, they disqualified Belgium for not showing Isreal’s performance and now Joost for what reason? That’s unbelievable.
Belgium is disqualified??
The lighting designers, camera designers and their respective crews are always SUPERB, some of the best work to be found anywhere. Much respect for your dazzling work, technical artists!
Not her delegation rehearsing the boos. 🤡🤣
I heard they were making fun of protestors. We don’t know what is really happening.
maybe it was really her delegation that booed at her last time during rehearsal too.
they were helping her practice singing while being booed so she can stay focused
@@tiny_lebowski They can also help her stop promoting the Genocide in Gaza.
@@AjithKumar-ih6sz cool, this comment just saves Palestine - well done!
Nobody learnt from ww2
Especially not isreal🤦♂️
Read the Hamas Charter. It's the same as Mein Kampf. In WW2 they had no Army to defend themselves. Now after 2,000 years they have an Army, Navy again plus an air force.
@@kaasdekoning4725 Israel has the right to defend itself. Israelis’ learned the hardest lesson of all for centuries- they must preserve their indigenous land for all Jews bc of what is happening around the world to them.
@@snfjrejsr If Israel has the right to defend it self as you say, so then all former colonies of the west had that right aswell. Yet many where killed and tortured before they even got independance. Afro-Americans also had the right to defend themself being attacked, terrorized, killed and raped by European radical christian terror groups. Yet many where not allowed to which they had to keep in for decades. Now America wants to play sympathy game of healing and comming togheter lol.
@@snfjrejsrIf it really was their indiginous land, they wouldn't destroy that land, its heritage, its soil, its nature. Also what in your mind makes you think it's ok to kill 30.000 innocent people of which 15.000 are children? Nothing will ever justify that.
If you banned Russia, you should bann Israel. But this Eurovision Song Contest is just ridiculous, it‘s divided by music. No one need this contest, they should close the whole thing and never do it again.
russia started its war. israel did not.
Or you can just stop watching it as a personal choice without imposing your dislike on others who enjoy it.
@@kimbozw1808 war crimes and genocide is ok as long as you didnt start it?
I@@kimbozw1808Israel is doing genocide long before 7.october and occupation.
@@kimbozw1808Okay, then I think you should check the entire history before commenting on this.
By disqualifying Joost from participating in the final, the EBU declared him guilty even before the police investigation was completed. Talk about decent standards of behaviour.... Besides, if this anonymous camerawoman had simply respected other people's boundaries (something she herself, as a woman, probably shouts the loudest in life... hashtag metoo), none of this would have even happened. Talk about decent standards of behaviour.
not being free to express an opinion. I think the Netherlands should not participate again. Until Eurovision give an apology...or switch to Onevision.
Biz Türkiye çok gururluyuz Erovisyon bize çok haksızlık yaptı.Başkanımız Erdoğan katılmamızı yasakladı.Çok iyi bir karar verdi.
"the greek singer looked less than impressed" - this press conference took place after the semi final last night and it was about 1am Swedish time. All the artists were exhausted and it was reported that she was also ill. I think from this context that it's very clear that she was trying not to fall asleep in that clip. But why bother giving context when you can help spread this gossip instead.
Joost is doing what should be nr1 by everybody. Freedom of speech.
No, he smacked a photographer
@jeffknop-wq2ye freedom of speech is not an excuse for freedom of bullying, victimisations, intimidation and extending hatred. One little 20 year old being heckled and booed by a large crowd of hateful people is not acceptable or freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech, not freedom from its consequences.
He is a bully and he should be stopped!!
@@magentamagenta1274 You dont know what happened and yes freedom of speech does include opinions we dont like.
The last year of non political eurovision was 2012.
A superb year for musical quality
Lets start a new worldsong festival,best singers of a country in there own language,like it used to be
Worldsong??? too aspiring... if you let the US in, you lost it from day No1
@@irondasgr its only one country ,so 1 song
@@irondasgr not if it's with traditional songs LOL. Those people are so confused these days, they barely know where they live. And with the dumpster fire they call music lately... we have chances. Heck the underdog countries of ESC would have great chances.
I thought music was about freedom of speech and expression but apparently EBU believes music is about being silent.
The head sponsor for Eurovision is an Israeli Company, which is why Israel is still competing
Despite the agreement not to film contestants while leaving the stage a camera woman filmed Joost anyway he asked her to stop She didn’t stop , he made a gesture to her( didn’t touch her) to go away She reported him for being aggressive This is why he was disqualified, nothing to do with Israel….
and if you believe that, you'll believe anything
@@mrlister2000 what do you believe?
@@hennyvanveldhuizen5976Hé/She believes that pigs fly.
FREE JOOST!!!
Free my niqqa joost NOW! 😤😂
For breaking the law? The cover over his head speaks for itself.
@@semsemeini7905🤡
He is a violent bully
Free from what???????
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ JOOST KLEIN 🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 DROOM GROOT
Brainwashed@@georgechristou7982
Eurovision is just political. Russia gets banned cos of war, but Israel doesn't. Quite a political stance there...
imagine if eurovision started the 3WWW
3 World Wide Webs, mh yes
@@garysquarepants898 he means 3rd world war (jk ik u were using sarcasm)
It’s already happening
Please lets all vote for Joost and if he really gets disqualified then we need to boycot!
💯% agree!
Do you guys even know WHY he may be disqualified?
People say he fought a Swedish journalist or idk who, because people made jokes about his dead parents
@CL21x yes obviously
It was a fotographer apparently
We are at a time when we understand 2019 participant Hatari very well "Hatrið mun sigra Evrópa hrynja"
Hate=islam
onda su bili moj favorit hatari
And they got fined for just holding a Palestinian flag. But apparently killing thousands of children wont get you banned... seems fair
Europe has fallen by letting in islam
1973 a Swedish group called ABBA won the Eurovision song contest with a song called "Waterloo". They are 51 years later still music legends. Each one of those modern "artists" fallen in oblivion 3 months after they won. The downgraded quality of music and art in general is alarming.
I love how the reporter asks Eden about safety, but not these 'peaceful' protesters 😂
Oh, how many children have they murdered?
@@thefirm4606 What a question?! Didi Eden murder anybody? The young singer was harrassed because of her nationality. That is awefull.
@@klio9611 was she in the IDF?
Please save eurovision.
What Eurovision?It becomes political theatre...sad...
LOL it's always some geopolitics or LGBT agenda. Western European things, this isn't even worth watching, everyone knows it's rigged.
Save? Its been politics as long as i know
yes, but he is a terrible person..
Please save the people in Gaza!! ❤️
Reminds me of Dutch cyclist Mathieu van der Poel who was accused of assault the night before his big world championship race that he was expected to win…. An Australian judge later overturned the conviction, but hey, the race was already lost and his dream was shattered. Poor Joost man... the fact that AVROTROS strongly disagrees with it says a lot about how disproportionate this is, the investigation is still ongoing and that they don't know yet what happened, because they can't really know whether he is guilty, they thought that it was best not to let him perform, sory this is completely unfair, of course 'their house, their rules', but remember every country pays a lot of money to compete, One side says “disqualification”, the other side says “that is disproportionate”. And I'm sure the only way we'll find out more is if the prosecutors decide they want to pursue a case against him, or he and the associate come out and clear things up. I'm certainly not betting that the EBU will tell us, in any case Cornald Maas (Dutch commentator, also involved in the selection of Dutch artists and a really honest guy) said that the incident was not that bad and disproportionate, work-related harassment and Harassment has been a major topic in NL after scandals involving prominent people in the media I think Cornald would never support Joost so vocally if they weren't sure the disqualified was being unfair.
It proves one thing nobody can get along with each other can't even having a sing song without havoc ,,😮
So when Russia is banned it’s political but with Isreal it’s about the music…
joost has already won in our hearts
No he hasn’t.
@@mikenorris7866 He has
@@TuomasRoinnot in mine, he is so weak and wants a safe space. When you can't stand the head, stay out of the kitchen.
This is not how human beings must act. This is supposed to be uniting all countries as a whole through song and dance. That's the whole purpose of Eurovision. Political has nothing to do with this. It's unfair that people should be treated like animals just because where they come from. It's the only time when people can put aside their differences and enjoy themselves the fullest. Grow up people. The time on earth is temporarily. Why waste it on hate.
The latest death toll stands at 35,402 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7.
Why did Russia get banned then? You had 0 issues with using politics as a weapon. Now that the roles are reversed " we must be inclusive".
This is so true
Judging from that rehearsal, thank god we didn’t have to endure it any longer.
i’m sure the “incident” is nothing big, but the worst part is, i see the EBU not letting him qualify for this dumb little thing. i really really hope he participates
well, isn’t this just fun! he’s disqualified. for an _allegation_. there’s not even proof, and he’s already not in the finals. boycott the EBU
Like Joost klein said, Welcome in Europa!!! ;)
Statement from AVRO TROS .. Dutch broadcaster ; "An incident occurred after last Thursday's performance. Contrary to clearly made agreements, Joost was fluent when he just came off stage and had to rush to the greenroom," the broadcaster writes. "At that moment, Joost repeatedly indicated that he did not want to be filmed. This was not responded to. This led to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera. Joost did not touch the camera woman."
That's even worse. I thought it was just verbal insults but if he did threatening movements, this is against the penal code in some countries. He could have ignored the photographer or ask security to kick the photographer out.
@@gch5477 BS .. nothing happend .. there was no contact to camera or woman .. PLUS this woman was part of the organizing party and should have known about this clearly made agreement. The disqualification is OUTRAGEOUS !! According to AVRO TROS he repeatedly asked to stop filming .. nevertheless she kept on doing her harassement
@@maltwhiskey1424assault is the threat of battery Assault is illegal in most countries and while you may not agree with it, klein broke the law when he physically threatened someone
If Joost Klein is not allowed to take part, i will not watch it.
Boo hoo
@@fattwin9308 I presumed she went very near to him and dont presume it was his fault. Why should he hit her ? To get disqualified ? Makes no sense.
Me too, it is unfair; Israel has to stop participation for sure for a provocative action.
Why? what Israel has to do with that? @@sonechkosvite
@@fattwin9308 no charges were made against Joost, If he really hit someone he would have been charged.
When did Israel join Europe? Did I miss that part of geography class?
You fool, even egypt and syria once in Eurovision, but quit after Israel join. Please look at Google why Israel and Australia in ESC before you comment
The same day that Australia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Armenia and Cyprus joined. Even Moroco has participated in 1980 in the contest. stop being obsessed with Israel.
@@davidnord2858well Turkey is in the continent of europe not in the european union so it is logical that Turkey participates
@@tarkozkan6439 on;y 10 per cent of turkey is europe..the rest is in asia, they should not participate
@@tarkozkan6439to us it is, to others it isn't, turkey is weird as its basically split in the middle to being in Europe or the middle east
Israël were required to edit the lyrics of their song Hurricane 3x before their entry was accepted
yeah and I still heard the political sense of the song ... 🤦🏼♀️ also I still don't understand how the croatia performance last year was no problem
While Satan romps in with his entry, courtesy of Ireland
@@joceery Massacre trauma is not politics, but in monsters devoid of human emotion.
@@joceerywhat was the problem with Croatia last year?
@@motherearth5936 EBU says any political content is forbidden.
And the rumor is that he hit a fotogafer who made a commed about his dead father
Yes he hid a fotograver you are correcd
als dat waar is dan had die journalist het bij mij niet eens overleefd
@@Elatenl dont to that how many languages do you spreak.
@@mvdh877 ja dus als het waar is, dan vind ik het just net knap van hen om zich zelf in te houden
@@floorsmits4548probably the same amount as you since we are from the same country
Nobody is giving a clear statement , it is annoying and ridiculous. We love you joost 🇳🇱❤
Somebody said ‘boo’ to an immigrant.
So just vote for Baby lasagna!GO CROATIA!!! Serbia sends all of our love to you❤❤❤❤
The amount of hate against this beautiful artist is unbelievable!
No one deserve this hate! I haven't heard anything political from her. To hate or diss her like Joost did because of the politics of Israel is beshaming.
The hate is not against her it's against her country.
It’s protest against genocide, not against the artist. You know that very well
that beautiful artist clearly took a political stand FOR the genocide of the Palestinians, when she first sand october 7, and then said that it's an honor to represent her country especially in a time like this. well, at a time like this, the palestinians have been fighting a just war against occupation. so what is is proud of exactly??? sorry, she's beautiful on the outside and a terrible person on the inside.
Avrotros has spoken out that the disqualified is uncalled for. It's a super progressive and woman empowering broadcaster. They would not back him up if the EBU statement was true.
So important...so relevant. Hold the front page - Eurovision rules World politics.
Eurovision is one of the most watched events in television each year. So yes, I'd say it is indeed news worthy
Justice for joost
Why? If he actually did something that is innapropriate what do you fight for? Lets learn to take people accountable for their actions. We will find out tomorrow,maybe it’s nothing and he will still perform.
@@flower8301 Thats the thing though: If its nothing and Joost hasn't been at the Dress/Jury rehearsal, no Jury has voted for him, so if it turns out to be nothing, he should fine the EBU and demand all the jury points because he couldn't participate because of them.
jail time? no problem
No, he is just a bad person
Nederland gaat lekker
Let op!
Ja waar een klein land groot in kan zijn😅
@@carolinevanbaal7570 Klein maar heftig!
Radio 538 heeft bekend gemaakt dat hij niet mee mag doen
@@carolinevanbaal7570 nee!! 😭
➡️ That’s a NEW DICTATORSHIP under the flag of „tolerance” or better to say their distorted definition.
This freak show is ready to end
I'm curious what the original contestants of the very first Eurovision in 1956 would make of this weekend's contest in 2024 if they were still alive.
Agree.
Nope, but I'm about ready to stop buying repeat tickets.
If he really attacked someone regardless of the reason then he deserves to be punished, do you reallg expect them to just ignore this whole situation? This case has even been handed to the police
It's understandable that police is called in as independent authority to invest such allegations. It doesnt say anything about wether someone is guilty or not. But yeah if he hit someone, even if it was after insults, then he went too far. Would maybe still have been more fair to both keep them out of the practise round until further information was gathered.
If you insult me to the bone, you might feel the consequences as well ... horizontally
@@lanamereltube Of course a lot of people would do that, but it won’t be tolerated and should not be. If you get into a fight you should expect to be disqualified
It was said he did that because they made fun of his dead parents
@@unaihmg9352Even if that's the case, still doesn't make physical contact oke.
Show must go on is also ironically Nyetanyahu’s motto..
And Putin's
THE TRUTH IS : There was an "Izreeli Film Crew" that spent all day harassing and trolling any artist that wasn't sympathetic to their cause. Despite Joost repeatedly telling them he did not consent to their filming him, they got right up in his face, yelling at him (I have seen this clip which has since been deleted) Joost simply yelled in response. Incredible the power these people have to totally control and manipulate the media.
Eurovision isn't about entertainment. It's been about political messaging for a long time. It's typically modern and European. The only difference this year is that the world is at war and more divided than it has been for decades, and this is being reflected in Euro Vision.
the greek lady was sick, she wasn't unimpressed she was just tired
Yes,she wanted everyone to notice how tired she is,poor girl😂
I just hope that Germans now won’t insult him simply because he said „why not“ to the Israeli girl.
He said « why not » to the man who told not to answer. He was pushing her to speak her mind.
@@msch7620 Germans will still call him anti-Semitic. They’re absolutely supporting what Israel is doing to the children in Gaza, I have never witnessed so much hate in a people
That's not the case they say he attacked a swedish photographer cuz she laughed at his dead parents calling him bambi. As an Israeli I could care less this guy not representing this year but still kinda sad if that's really the case.
@@Special-Creature I've never seen so much hatred of the Jews in my lifetime.
I mean If he asoulted someone I don’t see the point of keeping him there. And yes, even if it’s true that someone insulted him, in the eyes of the law you still are not allowed to kick someone.
You are also not allowed to harras someone. Which is also mentioned within the rumours. There is also a video about an Israeli journalist following him. And apparently there is also a clip of the Israeli crew making fun of the Netherlands during the flag show. Which would imply that the EBU in fact did not make Eurovision safe for all countries. Given that the Netherlands is completely behind Joost we might even see the country leaving Eurovision for good
@@ChiIIi...But also, hear me out, everyone booed the Israeli act and probably much worse. So it's a slippery slope if you go like that. That is also not ok. This competition has lost all its meaning a long time ago. Probably when Ukraine won with 1945. I mean, if there ever was a political song, that was the one. So, if the politics would just drop out of the equation it would be lovely. Also, all this nonsense about the pronouns, the obscene nudity and such things are so annoying. Stop with the bullshit and please let it be about the songs. Thanks EBU.
Didn't Eurovision ban Russia for similar political reasons? But Israel are still allowed to participate?
Russia started the war with Ukraine. Hamas started it with Israel, big difference.
@@letXeqX What war did Hamas start?
@@letXeqXyou mean Israel started the genocide
@@abu269October 7th
Joost is propalby the most kind person we send to eurovision.
Exactly! If he really hit someone, they probably provoked him or something
Is that why he assaulted a Swedish photographer? Okay
I mean he allegedly got in a fight with a photogorapher
If he is kind, I don't want to know what you think is evil
@@CL21x you know what the rumor is right because i also would not take it so wel if i where in his sitation
Just in Dutch news: Joost was filmed by a camera woman after he got of stage in the half finals against the rules and his will. He asked her several times to stop filming which she didn't. Joost made a move towards her camera without touching her. Of that incident has been made a complaint which got him disqualifite. :-S
It would be fun they said.. Greetings from the Netherlands
Justice for Joost Klein🥺I will not watch eurovision anymore
noone cares
The sponsor Moroccanoil is based in Israel. Has this anything to do with this?
Still confused why Israel are there
It wasn’t about having no boarders the song was about running away from your problems , his parents died when he was younger and this song was a tribute to his parents.
The worst part about this, none told what really happened.. There are so many versions. Who is real??
OK, I’m in my mid 50s, watching this contest since I’ve been a child. Tell me ONE year where this contest has been apolitical. Just ONE year …