Nvidia's GeForce RTX 4070 Super provides a sizable increase in performance versus the standard 4070, but how does the Founders Edition compare to a much larger Gigabyte Aero OC card and the AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT?
GPUs tested:
Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Founders Edition
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER AERO OC
Asus Dual GeForce RTX 4070 OC Edition
ASRock Radeon RX 7800 XT Challenger OC
Test bench config:
CPU: Intel Core i9-14900k
Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus Z790 Pro X
DRAM: Patriot Viper 32GB (2x16) DDR5 6000MT/s
Storage: Crucial T700 2TB Gen 5 (in Gen 4 mode)
PL1/PL2: Auto
MCE/PBO: Auto
Windows version: 22H2
DRAM timings: XMP 1 6000MT/s
VBS: Off
Windows power profile: Performance
iGPU: On
ReBAR: On
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00:00 - Intro
00:34 - RTX 4070 Super Specs
01:55 - GPUs Tested
04:12 - 3DMark Speed Way Results
05:10 - 1440p Benchmarks
11:24 - 4K Benchmarks
13:03 - Ray Tracing & Upscaling
19:49 - Power & Thermals
23:05 - Video Editing Benchmarks
25:40 - GPU Designs
29:02 - Conclusion
24:32 nope, it's not the VRAM capacity, it's the bandwith mostly. So the data can transfer faster. Those puget benchmarks do not test much for vram capacity. The more VRAM speed (GB/s), the bigger the gains are shown by the longer bar. Thx for the vid!
only annoyance is 12vhpwr. liked og 4070 with regular 8 pin connector
Anyone else having a problem installing this card, i got the same 16 pin adapter and everything, connected it to two 8 pin PCIs that go directly into the PSU, i am getting one long two short beeps when booting up, everything works fine with the old 3060 when i plug it back in, any thoughts? I have the dual one from asus
So what is best aero or dual
Granted, the image quality is different, but the fact remains that if you own and are using an NVIDIA GPU, you aren't going to use FSR as a gamer, you are going to use DLSS.
FSR & DLSS scale similarly on a chart so i understand why tested it that way. I think everyone knows that FSR has the worst fidelity out the 3 upscalers in games so far.
Performance is not exactly the same.@@amz212
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So, remember, Speedway is definitely a RT benchmark, so it teases out the AMD weakness for raytracing where it loses lot of fps.
Glad to see Will Smith back in the PC hardware review space. I watched Will Smith's "How to build a PC" video back in 2011 when building my first gaming PC.
That video helped me build my first PC, I'm so lucky to work with him! -Adam
@@pcworldThat's awesome to hear, Adam!
It's winter, and you're not putting lotion on your hands again.
+8GB, DisplayPort 2.1 for +$100 = Radeon Rx 7900 XT which is what I paired with my $148 5800X3D & $135 TUF Gaming B550-Plus WIFI II😃
where tf you find a 5800x3d for 150 bucks
No current GPU can take advantage of DisplayPort 2.1 so stupid comment.
@@N0Motion Micro Center had an AMD 5800X3D/B550 TUF/16GB-3200 RAM for $320 over Presidents Day Sale, that was the itemized price. Same Bundle was only $300 for Valentine's Day. Regular Bundle Price is $350.
I own an RTX 3060 Ti and I'm actually planning to buy a 4070 Super, but should I wait? Because I believe with the 50 series, Ray tracing will get the biggest update yet, making it more mainstream that event budget cards could do well with Ray tracing enabled. For example, let's say rtx 5060 runs a game in 1080p at 80fps without Ray tracing. When turning Ray tracing on, the fps could maybe get around 65 fps, instead of dropping to 30 or below fps like with current gen cards. This is just my assumption that the focus of 50 series will be to focus on improving Ray tracing.
So, both amd and nvidia said they expect not to be able to fulfill demand (supply/production issues) with next gen. So keep in mind if you wait, you may be waiting a while. Edit: it's about a 70% upgrade for you, so it's a little early to upgrade...but not unreasonable. I just grabbed the 4070 super, upgrading from my trusty ol 1070ti. Bout 105% upgrade for me. I'm excited. Stupid shipping times. 😂
I bought a 3070 pretty much at release, swapped that out for a 3070ti aorus elite after a year, which then got swapped for a 6900xt which I then finally swapped out for a 4070 non super a year ago and haven't regretted a single on of these stepups. Especially the last swap. The 4070 is so efficient it draws hardly any power compared to the 3070s or the 6900xt (the latter one gobbles up energy like crazy) Turning on frame gen is an absolute win and am very sorry to say, but fsr 2 is just not even comparable to dlss. It's great for non-dlss cards but if u ever hab both as a comparison, fsr just falls short.
Finally got my RTX 4070 Super and I'm loving it. But I wish it had that extra 4GB VRAM like Ti Super.
@@parthibanspace yeah, that 4gb+ would have been nice, although I haven't run into an issue with the 12gb yet. closes I got was something like 10.5GB used in a 4k all max situation. Which card did you go for?
@@IxionDLF zotac twin edge. Had issues when turning on FrameGen in Ratchet and Clank 4K DLSS Quality(Even in DLSS balanced) Very High settings. Frames plummeted upon turning on frame gen at these settings. I believe having 16GB would've made room for FrameGen and improved frame rate instead of dropping it to unplayable levels.
I personally won’t go below DLSS Quality upscaling as anything lower …. You might as well just play either at a lower graphics setting such as Med-High instead of Ultra or lower the resolution generally as I find the Balanced setting to be very poor in terms of image quality!
very much depends on the game and resolution.
4K performance looks good to me
Thanks for the tests but why Returnal? I don't think most people even care about that game. Games like Palworld or Enshrouded would be better. Or Helldivers 2. Avatar has RT built in as well as Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition. They would be better for RT. FSR might still be broken in Cyberpunk also. It looks crappy.
I picked Returnal because I wanted to use a game that has a lighter RT implementation like a console would have. -Adam
@@pcworld I know but it doesn't help anyone if no one plays it. 😁 But I understand. Avatar is light on RT. I just suggest looking for alternatives. Just saying. Have a good weekend.
Bro you said the 4070 super can handle “console type ray tracing” do you understand the ps5 basically has a rdna2 6700 in it? Do you seriously believe a 40 series mid range nvidia card cant do far better ray tracing than a 10 teraflop first generation ray tracing amd card? The 4070 super does better ray tracing than the 7900 xt. It beats the $1,000 xtx too it most games in ray tracing. The 6700 compared to those 2 cards is staggering
70 class cards that cost as much as the top end TI used to cost, yikes I'm still rocking my 3 GB GTX 1060
Same
GTX 970 “4” GB in my ancient desktop, though I bought a laptop with a 3060 6gb in it last fall. I’m not planning on building a new desktop anytime soon, and it’s all down to the cost of a new GPU. The rest of the components I can get as a bundle a Micro Center, but when the GPU is more than all the rest combined, I lose interest.
I’m on the 4070 ti super asus tuf Model Open box I found for $719
@@eplugplay8409 I bought it new for $699, got the discount with my CC.
But they have the performance of previous $1400 GPUs. $600 GPU performs as good as RTX 3090. Not bad at all.
Running with FSR is NOT GPU agnostic!!!
Why not also compare the Rtx 3080 and Rtx 3080ti?
Only so much time in the day... -Adam
Pc gamers bash console gamers for their inferior tech but yet most pc gamers play at 1080p with 4-6 year old mid range graphics cards. Its quite funny
The only card from the 40-series which is imo, worth buying is RTX 4090 as other lower lineup gpus (mid range gpus) are heavily lacking with Nvidias renaming of GPU dies this generation: 4060 is really 4050 4070 is really a 4060 4070Ti is really a 4070
The 4070ti is superior to a 3090ti in many RT and AI workloads. And the 3090ti was an expensive beast.
I disagree both the 4090, 4080 Super and 4070 Super are great GPU’s. All the other ones in the 40 series lineup is garbage. While AMD only has the 7900 GRE and the 7900xtx.
WILL SMITH
FE is so much smaller
My quart of milk used to cost a nickel. Damn Ngreedia
wtf is a quart
Their shareholders got used to those covid-era / chip shortage-era profits.
@@spacechannelfiverA quarter of a gallon. 32 fluid ounces. Milk used to come in that size in glass bottles back when the world was in b&w.
@@CantankerousDave was being sarcastic about US still using Imperial when all normal people use Metric; but here in the UK we still use Pints for specifically Milk, Beer and Blood. (UK Pints are different to US Pints)
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12GB is not enough at this price.
12 GB is more than enough for nearly every major game that exists right now lmao. You people are ridiculous.
Ngreedia is indeed scamming people with these prices... 12GB is good for today but what about the FUTURE
@@blakeandcamp Thats not what I said. If i'm spending 5-600 on a GPU then I want it to have 16GB so that it doesn't start chugging on VRAM in the next 2-3 years.
12GB is enough for now.
Definitely not but Nvidia wants you to pay for your AI capable cards.
All these butt bots acting fatherless 😂
Not gonna lie this is a pretty terrible review. It's **super** late and you don't show enough graphs and there's way to much talking: there should have been more games tested. Rather than saying how there were micro-stutters show it on the graph in the 1% lows and 10% lows. For raytracing and upscaling only one game really? and Cyberpunk... Also who the hell uses FSR on an Nvidia card, I get that to normalize the results to show the AMD card as well, but anyone using a Nvidia card is going to use DLSS instead. If you had more graphs and tested more than one game you could have explained this. For power & thermals, why do you not include average power consumption, and only show the maximum!!! Yes transient power spikes are important to consider, but just taking the maximum power and saying that's what's expected is lazy and inaccurate. One transient could be less than 1 ms long and be fine and another transient could be 20 ms long and take out a power supply... Pretty shameful that this low-quality of video comes from a channel with 375k subscribers... I'm not mad just disappointed..
It's terrible review....
imo anything over 60 fps is pointless
Do you really not notice the difference