Why Not to Put Wheel Spacers on Your Car
Wheel spacers explained and why not to buy them for your car. Why Not to Put Wheel Spacers on Your Car, DIY with Scotty Kilmer. Wheel spacers good or bad? Are wheel spacers bad for your car? Are wheel spacers bad for your truck or jeep? Are wheel spacers safe? Are wheel spacers a good idea? Are wheel spacers any good? The truth about wheel spacers for your car. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 50 years.
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Scotty Kilmer would you say that wheels with a more neg off set would be better?
Hey man I can use your help with my clutch please get back to me
Scotty Kilmer thanks Scotty for your work 👍🏽✌🏼💯🇺🇸
Aftermarket wheels are safe right? My stock wheels are 16" . my new wheels are 18 " .2000 infiniti i30 base. Is my engine special in a good way?
Scotty Kilmer when you're talking about engineers, you mean the same engineers who designed plastic parts for reliability? I see a lot of recalls because of those "engineers" with decades of experience... But I agree with you on this point (about spacers)
Damn that's crazy. Ima go order 4 of them right now
Damn Scotty that's crazy, but I kinda don't care
I like the look i dont care for handling
"Damn that crazy but I dont remember asking"
Narrower or wide depend on traction of the tire I do narrow on low traction snow drive Put Spacer on summer tires with harder spring firmer shock absorbers But you are right about changing angle from engineer but I’m better and know what I’m doing Not just put it to look cool stock car make for normal drive and you can always adjust modify If you know what to do (don’t say never put it in ) make you look like “Cloods” (CAVEMAN) why this video got a lot thumbs down I love most your video but have to disagree this one
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I removed my cai, muffler, turbo, now im going to remove my spacers damn scotty might as well buy a horse
ushutup lol
Hahahahahaha
You forgot your stretched tires. And your racing wheels.😀
ushutup lmao 😂 good one
Be careful to fit the right kind of shoes if you don't the legs will fall off.
I've ran spacers on my cars for 20 years and never ever once had any issues...dont be such a scaremonger
Next video- Why not to pee on someone's lawn.
I'm waiting for 4×30mm spacers 😅 😊 hell yeah 😎
I work with engineers daily. My experience with them tells me it's okay to get spacers 😅
Dam this guy is against almost everything lol😂
Well he's not wrong.. car makers did all their best to make sure their product is at its safest. Not the blingest or fastest.
If it were up to Scotty the whole world would be driving stock bare bones Toyota Corollas with manual transmissions in crimson red with tan interior. No sunroof. I think Scotty might be a closet communist. (JK)
I reckon Scotty thinks you can drive whatever you want, whatever way you want. But its good to know all of what you are doing when you mod your ride 😉
Basically. He hates everything. Sorry- but I work with engineers everyday... people who don't know much about them are praising them knowing what they're doing..... (here's a secret: they don't often times don't!) It's usually trail and error- and most of the time, it's someone like ME who's telling them what needs to be done. Wheel spacers have been used for a LONG time now. If used by idiots- they're detrimental. If used by people who know what they're doing, they allow the "rules" to be broken and the envelope pushed just a little farther, allowing for the owners individuality and creativity to be shown. Sorry, but you're talking about metal, bolts and nuts here... not exactly rocket science. The tolerances really aren't as stringent as you're implying...
Usually the people who throw on spacers, don't mind changing out bearings or bushings.
Up next: "why you shouldn't clean/organize your garage"
LOL right? What a disaster
Lol
Was thinking same thing 😂😂😂
Well said!
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I’ve had wheel spacers on my car for around two years now and it still rides perfectly fine. I also did them myself from watching a KZhead video lol. I really don’t see any problem if you install them correctly...
What brand
Do you have to re-torque them?
@@Yohane350 drive about 10 miles after putting them on and then come back and retorque the wheel spacers
@@sawyeradams16 Never re-torque while the studs/bolt are hot after heavying braking. When the metal is hot, you can easily stretch them and cause more metal fatigue. Wait till they are cooled off, then you can re-torque.
The hub-centric spacers with the new lugs are generally okay in the 20mm range are generally okay. It's the crazy 1.5"+ spacers that will really start to mess with, well everything. Even if the wheels still clear everything, the bearings will really start to feel it.
The load on the wheel bearing will increase slightly but greasing regularly will prevent premature wear. Adding spacers doesn't permanently change the wheel geometry, the caster and camber can be adjusted to match the OEM wheel geometry.
Wheel spacers won't damage wheel bearings. In fact, they are no different from a wheel with less backspacing. In other words, spacers cause no more damage than offset wheels. As long as they fit properly and are correctly torqued, there will be no issues.
@@lmjames33 Correctly torqued? Hell, I thought you just put the nuts on and tighten them up.....just like the tire/wheels......how can you get them "too" tight? LOL
False, my car was not engineered for optimal performance. My car was engineered to be economical and slow...
What you drive? A KIA?
Optimal performance does not mean the same thing as HIGH performance. So yes your car was engineered for optimal performance... it burns the optimal amount of fuel at the optimal time to get the optimal efficiency. Next.
This whole video had me wanting to know how he'd feel about my +40 offset wheels ,😎😂
Joshua Iwanski Honda Accord?
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Thanks for the info but still putting them on 🤪
I had to put them on my Kubota tractor in order to fit the tire chains for winter use. I'm sure glad that I'm not daily driving the Kubota.
Proof that people don't watch these videos for information... just affirmaiton... your funeral dude. Let us know when you bend an axle or wear out a bearing.
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I ran 1/2” spacers on the rear axel of my 996 Turbo for 5 years. It was a fair weather car, and tracked once or twice a year. Had 1/2” spacers put on my 997 C4S before I drove it off the dealer lot over 7 years ago, and it has been daily driven to this day. I do it because I like the way it makes the tires more flush with the fenders, and not once have any of the cars encountered a problem, exhibited any accelerated wear as a result of the spacers, nor do they affect lap times. I know people sometimes get pretty extreme with spacers, but imho if you’re just talking fractions of inches, it’s not going to have any tangible effect on the vehicle, so if you like it, go for it!
Yeah I was thinking the same thing
Thanks Scotty for the “how to install wheel spacers” video. I was afraid I was putting them on wrong.
I've put spacers on my truck, 1.5" and also because the wheel hub is bigger than the truck hub I've purchased concentric hub spaces to centre the wheel. Can't say I've noticed any change in the driving of the vehicle. The reason for the spacers, for me, was so I could have room for the front center caps. The wheel bearing issue is a concern. I'll have to see how they wear.
“Rev up your engine” - “WhY nOt To ReV uP yOuR eNgInE”
Lol
he already did that 😂😂 “why not to do burnouts in your car”
The only thing this man permits is to buy a 93 celica
@@5thhorseman982 that's crazy. I recommend buying a 74 celica. Much more reliable than the 93.
LMAOOOO
I swear this dude hates absolutely every mod 😂
He only approves fat tires for drag racing! Lol. everything else DONT!
He's like james may
He also seems like he hates life
@@JacobPHX or perhaps people do, that's why they feel the need to do things like mod their cars......
@@rob5944 you make no sense
I was looking around for wheel spacers and this guy pops up
If using Spacers i personally tell people do the expensive way 1) Slip On Hubcentric Spacer 2) Extended Studs 3) Hubcentric Rings This way the wheel is still hubcentric to the car and still have full lock thread from lugs to the studs. I needed it due to swapping out to BBK on my car which i needed to clear my brakes on my car.
He talks about how the engineers made these cars perfect for they way it is, no, they made it the most economical way they could, they knew adding bigger exhausts, better intakes, tuning etc costs more money and raises the price of the vehicle. They made it to sell at the best price point. You can greatly improve ride/hp/efficiency etc in aftermarket equipment
Thats called unreliable with bigger exhausts and consumers won't be happy
PCnever I’m afraid it’s pointless trying to make something slow a faster. You want to start with a good performance oriented canvas rather than upgrading a slow econobox.
@@AldousForestTheLast if you actually make it faster though... it wasnt pointless...
Right on 👍🏾👍🏾
@@DiegoMartinez-nm8hz removing the egr from a diesel makes it much more reliable and efficient
It’s very ironic that he talks about “why not “ while there’s a sign behind him that says “live free or die” lol
He's just giving advice :)
best comment so far
You think living free means being reckless? Yeah natural selection isn’t gonna work in your favor I see lol
@@HighTopMyers How are spacers reckless? Just curious as I've known people who have had them on for many years with no issues.
@@da324 Because he said that it can affect your braking at high speeds, not many people will own up to saying that their car is worse at handling than before (despite looking better). Maybe they renew wheel bearings and tyres without saying too?
💥 Scotty, I like that you covered the wheel bearing factor, but I didn't hear nothing about explaining scrub radius and getting more into bump steer and torque steer... Love your experience ADVICE and have tried to watch all your videos
I completely agree with u. Puting ur wheel away from the spindle thru spacers burdens ur bearing, tierod end, rackend, ustable steering. The Best way i think is to extend ur swing arms, both lower and upper, in that way ur spindle moves out too.
Engineers are also the ones who put the fuel pump in the gas tank
David Robitaille Not easy to work on, but that fuel pump is protected from the elements. As long as you aren’t one of the unlucky people who gets a bad pump, it will last much longer.
GOT 'EM
The mechanical fuel pumps that run off the cam are far more reliable
Bill Gringo wrong Robitaille’s.
You mean you would put a pump next to what it is supposed to pump out?? I know makes no sense...
Been using spacers for years now . Never had any issues with it . Let's talk about pizza and beer now . Its good for you .
Zim Slam me too
Loads of bullshit
Same, over 200k of trouble free miles on two different vehicles
@@tmstp1 how so?
As soon as I slapped mine on I have been having some stupid alighment issues and tire wear . I'll find out monday if it was them causing it as I took them off . And before anyone says change parts . I've spent 10 grand rebuilding this jeep . She has new parts lol
Engineers spending decades to perfectionize the suspension, made me laugh.
Scotty, I remember the days of them flying off!! Back in the muscle car days. Seeing it once I would never put them on any vehicle regardless of intended use. Thanks for all the great info!
Never installed properly in the first place
Come on Scotty, dont hate on everything. I put over 200,000 km on two different vehicles that had wheel spacers. No wheel bearing issues, no unusual tire wear. I have retorqued them every time I have rotated my tires. If you put wheel spacers on correctly and keep them 1.5 inches or less then there is nothing to worry about.
Where did you get yours?
I search truck spacers because ive seen a lot of videos with truck spacers road accident
@@imanafdar i doubt its due to the spacers
1.5 inches is HUGE, I wouldn't go that thick, get wheels with different offset/ backspacing instead. Wheel spacers should be minor if you use them at all, otherwise you will have problems, especially if you have stiff coilovers.
@@nathanchildress5596I've got 2 inch spacers on mine They're fine dude
Rev up your spacers!
And remember ring that spacer
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Space up your wheels!
Spin them really fast!!!💪😬
I've had 1/4" spacers on my f150 for 8 years now with absolutely zero problems. I only put them on so my oversized tires don't rub and it works perfect for that.
Thank bro this help me on getting spacer, because getting new rims are too pricey…been researching what spacer, nothing crazy but just worry what would happen…
@@tonydouangphachanh5343 re torque them every 6000 miles
@@marshalkwt what is retourwing and why is it necessary?
@@frenkiog You must tighten the wheel bolts for your own safety
@@marshalkwt appreciate it G
Interesting point in regards to the wheel bearings. Still installing, but wanted to look at the cons in regards
I can picture Scotty at a Car meet or Takeover Yelling at Everybody Lmao
A car meet and takeover are two different things one is for enthusiast and the other is for idiots
His heart would give out on him!😵👈DED!!
Lmaooooo
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I am approaching my 72nd birthday. I have been racing cars since I was 18. First in small British sports cars, ultimately, today in a beloved 1991 BMW M3 with full race mods primarily by Dinan - including a full suspension upgrade - & autocrossing a 2003 Mini Cooper S with virtually all of the suspension components well above the stock components in performance. I've found few cars whose handling geometry was optimal right out of the company's engineering departments & some surprising performance cars that were true nightmares. A couple of decades ago, I saw a Motor Trend show that matched a top-of-the-line Corvette with a base Toyota Corolla on a relatively tight slalom strip. The Toy won every time, even when switching drivers. It took Chevy until relatively recently to get the handling geometry correct on newer models. My '91 M3 had a 2.4 liter straight 4 cylinder engine (originally designed for the 1983 Beneton F-1 cars). Engine mods could bring the car over 300 bhp & turbos used by the F-1s could generate 550+ bhp. But, even the stock suspension was so well balanced with 50-50 weight distribution, I could throttle-steer the car most of the way around the track. It came with wider wheels & wider lower-profile tires on the rear as most rwd high-performance cars do. With a race-tuned suspension, I could get 1.5g on my g-force meter in several corners on my home course at Lime Rock in Connecticut (home of Skip Barber's competition driving school). When I added 1/2" hub-centric spacers on the front & 1" spacers on the rears, I was clipping a half-second or more out of my lap times. My M car with its 4 cylinder engine put me on the podium almost every time & I was racing top normally-aspirated Corvettes & 911 SCs. The little advantages added up. Stock suspensions are a compromise, designed for the way the ordinary driver is expected to use the car. THEY CAN ALWAYS BE IMPROVED in numerous ways - and properly sized spacers are sometimes part of the solution to keeping maximum tire patch on the road.
Good point, good read. But for heaven's sake please use paragraphs!
Great info filled video! How about using spacers on a Harbor Freight Utility Trailer to be able to install bigger tires from 12in to 15in? They have solid straight axles. Your thoughts?
The engineers at Harbor Freight have spent countless hours….😂😂😂
I doubt there's going to be a problem with properly installed 1/2" spacers with the appropriate studs. I agree that going over 1" will create premature wear, esp. with a larger wheel. That width may be necessary depending on the application, like an off-road truck etc.
What about 20 mm for the front wheels and 25 mm for the rear wheels? Do we still have wheel wear?
Sorry, Scotty's wrong on this one, especially with regards to the engineer part. The engineers do not design things to be the best they can be. Factory suspension and ESPECIALLY exhaust can always be improved upon. They design the car to do a job as cost effective as they can make it. Then the aftermarket comes along and is ALWAYS able to improve upon it greatly.
Plus I'm sure the same engineers want to make fun cars but a lot of regulations make it hard for them to do it, that's why you don't see much of the cheaper but fun cars being made anymore, if it cost less it's most likely because it's made slow and boring, you can hardly find a cheap and fun car being produced nowadays
Scotty is mostly wrong on everything. Toyotas do have good fuel economy and are pretty reliable, but Scotty is beyond biased.
@ that's why you gotta research what you do before doing it and talk to others about it but you also gotta avoid the biased people that won't hesitate to feed you the wrong information, gotta talk to people who are willing to list both positives and negatives, avoid people like "don't bother, it'll ruin everything, just leave it as is or not you're just wasting money" and look for something more like "it's a good idea but I would recommend doing ________ because you get similar results and it's easier/cheaper to do than __________ because of __________"
O yeah, then watch EE regarding this lol, learn engineering ways not only for the looks and current performance, look ahead, look beyond whats about there alreeady. Think... -_-
True davidM.
Scotty you pretty much say not to do alot of the cool stuff we car guys do, Don't put after market muffler don't add a cold air intake n now wheel spacers. Just drive boring Toyota celicas right?
Waste money if you want
Those little small Toyotas are torqueless wonders no power
Celica is not boring! Get a manual!
Петя Пупкин even the Mt Toyotas are still snails
Bmw M3 e46 i agree
Bearing load lines are calculated to service life mileage, if you widen track it buggers up the bearing performance and will either cause premature faiilure or they will simply wear out faster. Scotty you are as usual, spot on!
Oh crap, I've had these on my 74 Duster for 20 years and they have been awesome with no problems! I guess I better go take them off!
P.S. I do love Scotty, he's Awesome!
I have to disagree with the engineers part. They dont design cars to be the best, they design cars to pass epa emission regulations.
And to build them as cheap as possible to where they will last just long enough to exceed the warranty.
EPA regulations are only one part of the things they have to pass and that's not what this vid is about. Also if it's like Honda Civic or a Ford Fusion, yeah the company is not gonna give too much thought to giving you an extra 5% performance if they can't charge you for it.
Yeah, I don't know if I believe for a minute that those idiots at Ford know how to make an optimized suspension. One that works "well enough," sure, but I've driven Mustangs from all eras back to the 1960s and the one thing in common with all of them is that the handling is looser than a Thai bargirl.
Phill Zimmer I don't know man; the handling on mine feels right. I can take corners are pretty quick speeds and it feels stable through it
I also thought the same thing. Sure engineers may know how to make suspension but after end of the day they work for someone with a deep pocket who only wants to make it deeper not thinner. Same with the exhaust. Idk if he criticised everyone or just those who do it but don't tune the vehicle to fit the increased size in the pipe.
omg, it is unbevelable how much work he puts into these tiny pictures -just because he loves us :)
yeah that cd interest rate was hilarious
Scotty sounds like he turns around and takes a sip of his Busch lite warm beer after every scene 😂
What's the difference between spacers and having a wheel with the same amount of back spacing? I've been running my 1½ spacers for 2 years with no issues whatsoever. My ball joints are fine, bearings are fine, and my tires have never fallen off. Fact is wheel spacers that are hub centric and installed properly and maintained by someone other than (Scotty) are fine and cause no damage to your vehicle and are as safe as having wheels with the amount of back spacing that you want.
Correct. There is functionally zero difference.
I can't trust someone when their garage looks like Scotty's...
RAT RESORT!!!!!!
carlos barrios An excellent observation and point!
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Good mechanics have stuff all over their garage because they are always working on people's cars
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I'm definitely putting on wheel spacers now!!! 😂
Dovah Kiin you should nothing wrong with it unless you go too crazy
A got a car with wheel spacers i took them off they were making the wheel rub against the fender when i went over bumps
crankcall2u yeah well you need to make adjustments when you use spacers. The guy that you bought it
crankcall2u from should have done that
Hells yeah... I just ordered some 5" spacers
You said that engineers spend years in perfecting a car suspension. What about the hundreds of recalls car companies do because for a defective suspension?
Cool. I’m still gonna do 2” spacers on my Jeep to run big mud tires
Next up on scotty Kilmer "Why putting gas in your car is bad"
lol
It is bad if you drive a diesel.
I laughed way too hard at this 🤣
He's actually done that video
Lol
Rev up your Engine! your watching Scotty Kilmer the keep your Car Stock Show.
Don´t rev your engines! It hurts the car!
Right
Rev up your engines! Here's Why you shouldn't Rev Your engines
Hahaha
Funny!👍 stock car😔
I put hub centric spacers on my 4runner for the stance... However, I might just buy -10 or -12 offset rims later on which give you the wide stance without running spacers.
I was planning to do spacers on my vehicle. So Scotty, what would be the other option for solving that problem without using spacers???
He always ruins everything NEXT VIDEO WHY YOU SHOULDNT HAVE A CAR
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He is ''ruining everything'' so you wont ruin your life.
Because walking saves lives! 😅
Wkkkkkk u r funny
Thanks for sharing. Can't wait wait to get my 2" Bora spacers for my lifted Silverado.
Super Puncher did u bought the Bora ? Any issue ?
@@watchmanexpert his wheels fell off that's why he never replied
@@BraddaMarlon LOL 😂
Who watched this and bought them anyway
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Me 😂😂😂😂
Everytime
A lot of the engineering that goes into a car is also going into making it carb efficient or smog efficient so so loud muffler isn’t necessarily going to be bad for your car, but it also is it gonna be good for your car either.
I have 1.5 inch spacers on my 1995 Jeep Cherokee. Always drove like crap so nothing changed. Just torque them properly.
Green Leader I was thinking about getting I was 1.5 inch spider track spacers for my 14 Jeep Wrangler. Do you have to keep re-torquing those down all the time?
bruce vandeweg I rechecked them after a few hundred miles. They were still good. I used Titan spacers. It's my daily driver. 35 inch tires. Zero problems. I torqued them to 100.
You can use a chemical bolt lock to make sure they won't got loose over time. ;)
Sugurain I would use loctite but Everytime I checked they are ok. Probably wouldn't hurt though.
My dad has had 1.5" spacers on his truck for almost 150k miles and 10 years now, with larger tires than stock too. No wheel bearing or power steering issues yet!
We gotta get that fitment right lol
Kuri Brown thank you
Turd Ferguson wow that was so funny
Turd Ferguson Just because it's original doesn't make your comment funny
its called offset
I bought a second hand Mitsubishi pickup and one of the previous owners must have fitted these wretched spacers. I have found very severe cracks in these spacers and will definitely be removing them having watched this video. I do not think these wheel spacers are safe as the ones fitted to our vehicle would result in the wheels falling off if I do not get rid of them . Keep these videos coming, they are very educational as well as entertaining.
All great points clearly known to most folks. Moderation (1 to 2 inch versus 4 to 5 inch) is the key and road testing is critical. Plus they simply look super 😎 🆒️. 😆 🤣
Its boring to drive normal cars..
...try a sleeper car. Boring looks, not boring drive.
Good on your wallet. Looks cool when you are in 20s then your 30s you start to think how much $ you spent and the hassle. Its like when i had the low profile tires and every 2 mos i was blowing one out. Having to put on a spare at night while raining. Did that for 2 years sold them and never again..Long time ago! Not worth the aggravation or the cost. Then i had blown struts to! Mechanic told me 99% the low profiles tires were the cause of it!
@@letsgonow5641 if it becomes a problem for you then just change to a different type of mod, you can easily modify a car to look good and have the same hassle as a regular car, mod it to be tasteful, not bashful
How I wish you can do rally..
But they have perfect geometry. Lol
You lost when you said "engineers have spent decades designing your muffler system too" Uh I think they've spent decades chasing EPA rules and regulations, rather than designing the perfect muffler system.
We can't have nice things because ... EPA. Everyone knows this.
@@WideGauge what is EPA?
They guy has Said it before the Engineers cheap out on designs on engines and all aspects of a car now a days . So why would this be such a factor ? I just want to modify the look of my car . I’m not doing any drifting or Indy 500 racing .
And why are those regulations there?
@@WASTOIDSUPREME partially, but I feel that I've learned a few things. It's hard to listen to something you don't wanna hear.
I like this guy… whatever he says not to do , just make sure you do it… He said don’t get bmw, I bought one, I also have a Range Rover … now I’m getting wheel spacers lol
dragsters don't use spacers to put wider wheels on the cars. They fully change out the axle and suspension and typically bring the wheels in toward the center.
Watching this video while putting them lol👍
The moral lesson from Scotty Kilmer is.... don't do any mods unless Scotty approves them. But he never will! 😂😂😂😂😂
From a automotive mechanical engineer(me) i have to say only one thing: It depends.
I like to put wheel spacers on my turbocharged Mercedes-Benz
Samcrac i put them on my lifted turbocharged g wagon that has a muffler delete
😂 Scotty warned us about Mercedes-Benz. How long have you had your car? Any issues yet?
I hope your kidding
Samcrac I never knew you watched Scotty's videos.
Stop watching this crap and get us more videos of that sweet RS7 :-) And I have rear spacers on my turbo Mercedes too
Porsche's came from the factory with wheel spacers.
...that's a good thing - suspension geometry balance already taken care of at the factory.
Yep. My wife’s Cayenne has spacers.
@@EM-lq8rr are they steel or aluminum spacers?
Because that’s how they were designed. If you REMOVE spacers on a car that was designed to have spacers, then its gonna ride differently
Beth. L they are aluminum. Take extra care in removing. I used a 3 jaw puller from the inside.
I had been chasing a breaking issue where the truck pulled to the right super aggressively in hard stops. I checked and changed almost everything including lines, valves, etc… In the end, it had been the wider wheel spacers on that side that had been installed to correct a slight difference in wheel depth compared to the other side. Removed it, and voilà!
Hey Scotty, what do you think of spacers on a Atv? Is it doable?
Speaking of engineers......how can you say that you can trust those same dudes that thought GDI was a good idea w/o first figuring out how to keep the valves clean.
MavHunter20XX fucking clean it then. It's maintenance. Or get a MPI, but I guess you like the torque and mpg, though?
Epa regulations + they kinda know it. Thing is they can get away with it.
These have now been banned from passing an Ontario Canada Safety Certificate when selling your car.
ClusterHeadSurvivor so when you saw your car in the peoples Republic of Ontario you have to go to a safety lane with the customer or you do this before you sell the car?
ClusterHeadSurvivor they have been banned here in the netherlands for a long time.
When wanting to register your car to get license plates and valid Tag sticker you need to provide proof of insurance, an emission test if 1988 and newer that is a pass and a Ontario Safety Certificate. Without it you can not drive your vehicle legally. Which is good because it prevents junk unsafe garbage on the roads. You can sell a vehicle safetied here or as is. The buyer has to safety the car to get it on the road. Driving without insurance is $5000 fine. Safety certificate inspection is about $100-$150 plus any repairs. This applies to vehicles under a certain weight. Commercial or heavy duty vehicles require yearly inspections. This keeps our roads safer.
Yes can confirm, I bought a cheap set of alloy neon rims and they didn't fit on my PT Cruiser, I got the minimum thickness spacer and then failed the safety.
ClusterHeadSurvivor oh yeah in Illinois my trucks have to go through the safety inspection twice a year But that does not apply light weight vehicles Cars and smaller pick up trucks don’t need those test Yes. Of course you have to have insurance or you could go to jail And or $2000 fine Misdemeanor offense on your criminal record Ugg Does all of this keep our road safer not really Because if a car or truck is really that much of a piece of junk it’s not going to stay running for very long anyway In my opinion was really unsafe his cars that can go fast very quickly and are very quick and agile such as a BMW you can zigzag through traffic or a tesla extremely dangerous because it is very powerful very fast and very agile so you could have one of these vehicles suddenly squeeze in between you and the car in front of you and then hit the break that is more unsafe than any piece of junk on the road Only because those types of cars are capable of out maneuvering
Everything you said would also apply to running rims with less backspacing - which people do all the time without ruining the handling of the car.
A lot of people with SN95 Mustangs are either putting on spacers or wider wheels on the rear because they don't like the recessed look to the rear wheels/tires. Kinda like they want to put on lowering springs to get rid of the wheel well gap also.
*i do understand the stress and load on the wheel bearing, but i just installed 2 inch spacer on my car and i can tell you that the handling when turning around corner has improve significantly.... i can say that the center of gravity do change when the wheel is out more. My car come stock with camber so the wheel never get worn out evenly so i dont really care about that.*
Keep doing what you do, Scotty. At least you care enough to warn us about the do's and don'ts of mods to our cars. I appreciate you.
RoyalKingA73 spacers dont caise issues unless they are overly huge. Thats it
it might be true but one thing for sure is that they mess up with the stock car build, like scotty said, everything is designed to go in harmony.
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I’ve never heard of someone putting spacers on their car to make the car handle better. It’s about the wheel fitment and it’s literally no different than just getting wheels with a different offset. Get quality spacers and there’s no danger. This is true within reason. Obviously your results will be different with a 15mm Offset than with a half a foot offset, which is getting absurd.
Scotty Kilmer the kind of guy who thinks cars shouldn't be fun
Scotty speaks the truth however there's always some variance in the geometry. To be safe, do your research, see what others have done before you do anything yourself.
I run 2 in hub centric wheel spacers on my ram 2500 with toyo mt 35's since it was new. I have 80,000 miles on it. Wheel bearings are still fine tie rods are fine and i have no uneven wear on tires because I rotate them every 3000 miles. Take what this guy says with a grain of salt.
Hi sorry to ask as I haven’t really got the idea. But when you say rotate them do you mean change wheels from example front driver to rear etc?
The thing is though, many vehicles have very different wheel offsets between their base variant and their top of the line variant of the same car. For example, the small steel rims often fitted to base model vehicles are usually a very high offset, and the nice big alloys on the luxury or sports version could have offsets up to an inch or more lower. The suspension and steering of a vehicle like this has been designed to function properly within a broad range of wheel widths, diameters, offsets and materials. Usually the suspension system design between variants is identical, apart from maybe a different spring and shock for a different ride quality. If your wheel/spacer combination is close to or within the range of variance for that vehicle, and you are using good quality hub centric spacers with the correct amount of thread remaining for the wheelnuts, there will be no ill effects on the vehicle whatsoever. Additionally, never blindly assume that the engineers have actually designed something properly in the first place. There are countless examples of vehicles from the beginning of cars to right now that prove that engineers make enourmous design blunders very very regularly. There literally doesn’t exist a vehicle where every component has been designed perfectly, it’s impossible. Those who say “that’s the way it came from the factory, thats the way it should be kept” and “I’m sure the people who engineered it knew what they were doing” are often those who know the very least about how cars really work
Your right soo many recalls on alot of cars
Well said
Yes but for every person who does understand the min and max limits that can be applied there are 9 others who havn't got a clue what they are doing and would be better off following Scottys advice
If spacers aren’t “good idea” why do they sell them?
I ran 3/4” spacers on my 07 Tundra. I had them on the front only NO issues never had a problem. I’m putting them on my new 4X4 Tundra
Scotty I couldn’t agree with you more. Instead of spacers all they need is a different offset wheel, even though that does increase the leverage that increases stress on the wheel bearings,steering, and suspension. You make one of the best auto maintenance advise videos. I’m a FAA A&P Licensed Mechanic and was ASE Master Auto Tech for over 20 years. You have my total professional respect.
Rudy-The-Cuban Gonzalez I use mustang wheels on my Cherokee. Mustang wheels have to much backspace. I use 1.5 spacers to bring to make them fit properly. Torque them properly and have no issue.
I understand if you are still using skinny wheels, but if you run a wider rim with more offset wouldn't that keep the leverage the same?
My big issue is Gm designed a 260hp fwd car that's light weight then released a staged upgrade bumping it up to 300hp but chose to put 7" wide wheels and tires on the car so all young is wheel spin and eat up tires anytime you hit boost. Even worse is the chose a rare bolt pattern so your selection of aftermarket rims is slim to nill.... Idk why they couldn't have stuck with 5x100 so you could get rims from almost any manufacturer.
I run 35x12.5r17 tires. Mustang wheels were 17x8 and free. I love free parts.
Stxn I agree it's not the best option. But the wheels were free.
The Ford Dealer i used to work for put wheel spacers and cheap flimsy lift kits on some of the brand new F150's to make them "stand out" then would deny customers warranty down the road for bad wheel bearings and suspension components caused by said parts.....idiots
Streetwhore8te4 well they dont call dealerships stealerships for nothing, lol!
Streetwhore8te4 ... "Stealerships"
Adding a 1 inch spacer to clear the suspension for a new tire is fine
I put wider tires on my one ride went from about 3 inch to 7 and was very happy however it came from sport edition model
The only legitimate usage for spacers is if you have to mount a wheel with a different offset. You can use a spacer to make the offset of the wheel match the offset of the car. What you want is to have the wheel center of gravity to line up with the center of the wheel bearing assembly.
the H-town SLAB ridaz who bolt them Texan Wire Wheels (83z, 84z) which were originally used with a 85 and older Eldorado, Toronado (or Riviera after 1979) - the rims known as Swangaz were designed for use with GM front wheel drive E platform vehicles which has a higher offset hence the use of the wheel spacers - also front wheel drive wheels (including some SUVs eg Jeep XJ, Toyota 4 x 4 have the offset over 5 inches which makes it imcompatible when bolted to an older vehicle - I have measured the offset of the 88+ GM 6 lug rims where it has over 5 inches of backspace and it does not fit my K5 Blazer 4 x 4 since the offset is over 4 inches (this includes the GM transit wheels)
Its a little more complicated than that. The most important thing is the scrub radius which is distance from the centerline of your tire tread to the center point of steering rotation on the pavement. Increased scrub radius from wheel spacers that are too thick can really mess up stability which is why its smart to keep your wheel offset as close to stock as you can.
@@theslimeylimey What if you only used them on the rear? Finding a 4 lug 15x8 wheel for a 66 mustang is hell. Easy to get a 4-lug to 5-lug adapter.
@@imaouima unless you went extreme i doubt you would notice much difference in offset for the rears.
Won’t spacers put undue stress on your suspension due to the fact that you are moving the unsprung weight out from where the designers intended? And the whole load of the car is now sitting on the wrong part of the OEM GEOMETRY. Can this bend control arms? Or screw up all of your bushings??
Totally correct. When GMC came out with the Zr2 version of the Blazer/Sonoma with bigger/taller tires they widened the frame 3.9" so the frame would take the stress of the huge tires.
Scotty, I have a pair of wheel spacers I'll be using on a garden tractor for one reason. The bolt pattern is 5x4.5 on a Ford LGT. I got the spacers at the scrap yard, and the problem I have is my new wheels have larger diameter bolt holes, but the wheel bolts fit good in the spacers. Rather than to fiddle around with washers on the wheels on the tractor hubs, I'll just bolt on the spacers, then bolt on the wheels. This thing might make it to 10 MPH, so the risks are small. Also the engine is only 13hp, so it will be a good fix. I didn't buy the spacers for my car, as I know they're not an improvement. Plus they just wouldn't fit to begin with.
I put 10mm spacers on my c class Mercedes but I made sure that the offset was within the spec of a version with original staggered Mercedes alloys….. I’m a mechanic with 19 years experience and I just wanted my rear wheels which are square set to push out more to appear more like a version with the staggered set. Still within spec.
I've been running inch and a half wheel spacers on my FJ for about a hundred and twenty thousand miles with not a single issue. Although there are bad spacers hub-centric spacers are the way to go. What would be the difference of buying an aftermarket wheel that has a totally different offset or backspacing and putting it on for fitment reasons or looks then running a wheel spacer that achieves the same thing. Sure it ruins suspension geometry but when people go for looks and style they usually ruining their car anyway.
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John Dough I second that
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Good.... Some 1 already commented so that I don't have to... Thanks Man! Saves me from the hassle of wasting time on KZhead when I could be modding my rides
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Can your next video be on keeping your work area tidy, and garage door report?
Just put 255 20s on my AWD Charger and immediately thought the rear wheels need to come out an inch. To get the staggered look and stance I would need to put my spacers back on. They're thick, hub centric and only on the rear wheels so it'll be fine. Right Scotty??
If you use a little judgement and modest widths with matching longer wheel bolts, and use high quality hub-centric spacers, there are not any problems at all. Heck, Porsche has offered 5mm wheel spacers on various models as an option for years right from the factory!
🌞 have a great day
Thanks for the info but still putting them on 🤪 lol
I have 3” spacers on my 1991 1 ton chevy crewcab squarebody. 8 inch lift with 24x14’s gonna buy some 4 inch spacers for it next week.😊
Next video "Why you shouldn't put aftermarket wheels on your car" LMAO
Lol
Because it looks not stock and it changes the geometry. Didnt you know? You need to watch more Scotty. Hes the pro of what not to do.
ITS THE GEOMETRY FROM THE FACTORY!!!!!!!!
That's essentially what he's saying here.
I like how you do the "steering motion" when talking , i would have been lost without it.
Hey Scotty, I bought a highlander but I really wanted a 4runner, so I wanted to put big mud tires on it, is that possible? like with some type of adapter or something? Please let me know - Thanks!
Wheel spacers definitely help on lifted trucks. It lowers the center of gravity and helps exponentially with cornering. I noticed that right away when I put .75" wheel spacers on my tacoma.
Lug or hub centric?
@@RyanAndres I'm not sure. They fit over the lug nuts, then you bolt the spacer to the hub with the stock lug nuts, then the spacer has the studs on them that the wheel goes onto.