Paul Pierce: If Lakers win title LeBron will be the ‘undisputed GOAT’ over Jordan | NBA | UNDISPUTED
Skip Bayless, Paul Pierce and Rachel Nichols react to Pierce’s comments on Keyshawn Johnson’s ‘All Facts No Brakes podcast’ proclaiming if LeBron James and the Los Angles Lakers wins an NBA Title this year he will be the “undisputed GOAT.” Skip, Paul and Rachel decide what it’ll take for LeBron to surpass Jordan.
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Paul Pierce: If Lakers win title LeBron will be the ‘undisputed GOAT’ over Jordan | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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Mike never had an AD who is way better than Pippen.
Skip Bayless this is for you!!!!! That 6 -0 is not what it seems!!! The case against Micheal Jordan! He beat the Piston and Lakers at the end of their respective dynasties. He “retired twice” and because of those retirements he only played 15 seasons. If MJ would not have retired he would have had a 20 year basketball career. So that mean he could have face the Rockets, The twin tower Spurs, the Kobe & Shaq 3 peat lakers and the Spurs in their Big three era (Tim, Tony, and Manu). MJ was able to avoid all those teams in the finals. Lebron avoided no one!
Paul lost his mind
Why total points are more important than ppg? It never mattered when kareem held it and he had rings and accolades to support it. Coz mj was 33ppg in the playoffs and 31ppg in regular season he is the only player to elevate himself with better % accross the boards in the playoffs. Bron can never claim that. Who cares about assist or rebounds mj proves that u only need a specialist killer scorer in a time where centers were trees under the basket. Bron had hard time scoring over bogut in the finals do u really think the PED juicer can score at the same rate as now?
Skip is just a hater
F1 this is your group...give Keyshawn his own show...bring Rachel on as the moderator...make Paul Pierce full time
Keyshawn is so garbage at debating it is unbelievable
Come on man. He’s a glue guy. Paul Pierce and Skip won’t get past the honeymoon period without him!
Paul has awful takes
Nah they need someone who has vast football knowledge. Thatz when sports talk shows are at their best. But lets be real, there's no replacing Shannon.
Who are u? Lol
Keep Paul Pierce!
I thought he got fired for having a bunch of prostitues on a Instagram live
facts . Paul pierce the reason why im tuned back in . This fasho top 3 sports shows rn
because he's drinking the Kool aid?
@@KEYSLEAZYNWNBthis show is trash!😂🤣😂🤣😂 SKIP IS DONE!
@@gunnernathan7023 say no to drugs! 😂
Rachel better chill out challenging skip before she get uninvited 😂
She's 100% tho
😂
She was with jimmy lol
lol...
😭
Skip Bayless you should thank LeBron James for your career
What's left
extremely false.
You should realize Skips been in the biz for 40 years little boy. Skip made more money before you were born than you entire family will in there lifetimes. Keep talking, losers typically do!
@@juniorgong1808A group of people known as groomers.
i was waiting for them to mention that SKIP HAS HIM #9 ON HIS ALL TIME LIST while having this discussion btw
Skip be making a case for jordan like he his lawyer!!😂😂😂
Espn tries to convince us Lebron is the GOAT so bad
Well, MJ is the GOAT!
The case against Micheal Jordan! He beat the Piston and Lakers at the end of their respective dynasties. He “retired twice” and because of those retirements he only played 15 seasons. If MJ would not have retired he would have had a 20 year basketball career. So that mean he could have face the Rockets, The twin tower Spurs, the Kobe & Shaq 3 peat lakers and the Spurs in their Big three era (Tim, Tony, and Manu). MJ was able to avoid all those teams in the finals. Lebron avoided no one!
@@thegreatone9850no they try to convince us Jordan is the goat when he’s not
@Wisestomatoe we done with da 90ssssss Big trashhhhh 🗑🗑😂😂
I gotta admit, I am shocked at Pauls take here. Kudos for the respect finally shown.
Never kudos for that clown
Having Rachel and Paul Pierce on Undisputed reminds me of “The Jump” that used to be on ESPN… love to see it
I miss seeing Michael Irvin on Undisputed with some of the debates these days. His knowledge of football, basketball, life experiences, and passion are just entertaining and insightful to watch.
He'll be back for sure, when the season starts
I was waiting for the “lebron had to be sedated line” 🤣
Bro been using that line for a decade now.
@@twindeserteagle1I think even longer than that
😅🙃😂😂🤣😅😂🤣😅🙃
Is a true story and shows why he is not anywhere near on MJs level
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No Keyshawn on nba topic = 📈
Thats cuz he said Lebron never posterized anybody lol
@@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVD even before that statement I thought he was a catastrophe
😂😂
I miss Shannon. Keyshawn’s chemistry with Skip is terrible
@@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVDnahh no way he said that 😂😂
Paul single handedly reviving skip and the show 😂❤
Skip Was seeing the Ghost of Jenny Taft listening to Rachel 💀💀😭😭
I miss Jenny.
I just randomly came back to to this show and that’s the first thing I noticed lmaoooo Skip is a maniac😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
@@pjones8189 Jenny did a great job on this show!
@@williambreeze2659she was fine asf too
Keep Paul and Rachael on Skip
Let go of Key and Sherm
Agree 100%! Undisputed, Please get rid of Keyshawn and Richard! Please 🙏
They both have really poor arguments here
Paul and rachel for nba kick sherm . irv and key for nfl . expand the desk!
This is the conversation I’ve been waiting to hear!!
Paul Pierce absolutely saved this show
I would put my trust in the Lakers to win because they play like a family. One is hurt or out they just keep coming to cover for them.
Who’s coaching this team? Dominic Toretto?
@@bern717😂😂😂😂
When they lose “you will say LeBron has no help.” Knock it off
They play like a family when LeBron isn't on the floor
@lbarge85 yeah they played like a family in that loss to the Timberwolves recently. Dlo couldn't get a shot off. Reaves disappeared. Oh, he hit 1 three-pointer all game. It seems LeBron set these guys up beautifully when he is on the floor
Look at Rachel"s facial expression ,she is sick of Skip already !!
Sick sick sick😂. She had enough of skip already.
That is why she doesn't want to be a part of his bs show only but so often. She does not need his money.
Lakers would be 20 games under 500 without refs
Skips haters still in the comments section 😂
NEPOTISM BABY Rachel has the same blank expression most of your mothers had back in their day. And she still sucked the skin off several NBA players. Diane Sawyer is her ex-father-in-law’s wife. Her ex-father-in-law is the late great reporter, Mike Nichols.
I’m sick of this Bron and Michael talk. This been going on for over 10 years. Michael Jordan ain’t played in 20 years. Can we please move forward! This is why Bron and JJ podcast is killing it because most guys in Media are stuck in the past!
I agree, it's not important to talk about that at every moment. It's stupid when people bring it up for no reason at all. Just pay attention to what's currently happening. Who cares if you like Bron better or Jordan better or both, it doesn't matter, and we don't need to hear about it every time you discuss basketball. It's getting stupid.
Just watch the people who have more depth in their videos. You’re watching mainstream channel that’s on tv, what did you expect?
Nope. Jordan's accolades and wins have to be surpassed to even come close. LeBron doesn't even have half. So the longer he stays, the worse it gets. That's not being stuck in the past. It's the bar that was set.
@@casual35you’re a casual I’m guessing that’s why you have that as your name, bron is the goat and it isn’t even a debate anymore
@@fredooogoated8335 The guy that got outplayed by Jason Terry in the Finals ? lol
Never thought I would say this. Paul pierce disappointed me today. Skip made me proud. Smdh..
PIERCE IS A FLIP FLOPPER. A PHONY
Paul is becoming a bronsexual
Just say that you like Jordan and hate Bron & keep it moving
@@jacobyellsbury6302di you play for the Red Sox and Yankees? LOL
If Bron stepped away because an organization wanted to fire a coach he liked, Skip would NEVER stop calling him a quitter
Not if he won 6 chips with that coach
Imagine a GM being so dumb as to fire the best coach in basketball after winning a title so he can replace him with mid tier college coach
MJ was also coming off his 2nd threepeat so he probably felt he accomplished everything. If he had a “ghost” to chase like Lebron admitted to, he would have stayed in shape and dominated well into his late thirties!
@@hk2737 People/younger generation don’t realize 99% people thought MJ was the GOAT in 1993 and he said he had nothing left to accomplish after 3 rings part of the reason he retired 1st time the NBA wasn’t even a challenge to him
@@davis2k1234and he lost in 95 and got Rodman! He never wanted a challenge that’s why he cried to league to change the rules for Jordan and end the Pistons runs
At least Paul Pierce is keeping an open mind about the goat debate. I love the people that say that there's nothing that LeBron could ever do to ever be considered the goat. As if LeBron leading the Lakers to the next three titles would mean nothing to them.
Although, he said LeBron winning a title as a Laker this season would make him the GoaT. While AD would likely be the best player.
They say that based on the substantial history & precedent that's been set. They've been having this forceful debate since LBJ's 2nd ring & that's a reaction 2 it. Obviously he's closer now in terms of chips & stats, but his journey in doing so has created a corrupt file, so 2 speak, that to many could never equate 2 what MJ did. If LeBron won the nxt 3 it would involve others being able 2 be the best player OFTEN. If ppl can debate 3 > 6, as they have, then it's certainly fair 2 say that LBJ's 7 or 8 or 9 won't be better than MJ's 6.
@@penkima4923yeah but he’s gone get the credit because we all know that he’s gonna do a lot if he makes the finals
Man that’s not happening bro 😂😂
Those people are too emotionally involved with Jordan. They just can't be objective.
If Bron had a healthy squad for all his Final appearances it’d be a different story. One player can’t do it all.
He has had a healthy squad stop the bs
@@jeremiahsymonette4781 sadly the teams he played were just more talented so it didnt matter.
We aint playing that excuse now. You sound just as bad as bron did when he faked a broken hand against the warriors lmao
this format is still good old classic
Yea this the best group... hope they keep this trio...
having the goat debate for the hundredths time as opposed to actual NBA talk lol
I love the goat debate, I just had it with my friend the other day. MJ played all 82 games 10 seasons LBJ just 1, MJ won 10 scoring titles LBJ just 1, MJ won 6 titles with the same team, LBJ went to superteams to win titles.
Personally, I think the goat debate belongs in the hands of the fans only. Fans are the ones who give players their nicknames anyway.
@@trevorcarey3997 🤔 yeah. Funny how Pierce thinks that if his lbj wins a 5th title ( no matter how long it takes), the goat debate is decided and he's the winner. This guy...
@@CrandallWilliamsits the lack of logic when it comes to the record that gets me. If the lakers have a bad record and they win its some kind of amazing accomplishment. But if lebron is so good why are they 9th seed in the first place? They act like he is being traded to a bottom tier team.
and mj finals had no competitions and had no longevity to break any other records@@trevorcarey3997
Great job Undisputed!!! Keep working!!!
Keep Paul Pierce with Rachel and let Keyshawn go.
Rachel Nichols comin with a STRONG case! Skip's face when she laid it out was priceless. Jordan had the greatest coach of ALL TIME, and the pieces Jordan had around him were better than ANYTHING LeBron has ever had. Jordan NEVER won without Phil and Scotty! He lost A LOT without them! For YEARS!
Im a 80s baby and my team the lakers allday but bron had superstars and all- stars on his team for years. Jordan had Mid players rarely allstars.
Okay but lebron had to switch teams multiple times to win his 4 championships
What year were you born? So Dwade, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, kyrie irving, jr smith Kevin love, Anthony Davis and all of the great role players the heat had just don’t exist? Mike miller, Norris Cole, mario chalmers?? They just don’t exist now?
@@Therealestndagalaxy I kid you not, everytime I get into this debate Lebron fans claim that Davis, Wade, Allen and even Westbrook were all overrated. On Twitter a guy said Anthony Davis wasn't even better then Pippen because Pippen has more NBA all defensive teams. This debate is tiring now. Yall know Lebron wouldn't have as many rings had he not team hopped and begged other ESTABLISHED (keyword) stars
@@Therealestndagalaxy half were constantly injured and the other half he made great. Context matters more than just a list 😂
Paul has grown on me ! Bring him on as a full timer!
Jordan is the most efficient player of all time. Ranked 1st all time : x10 scoring titles Ranked 1st all time: All defensive First teams Lets not even start on playoff efficiency.
“I was toasted after 33” 😂😂
That means a lot coming from Paul pierce bc he’s Lebron biggest hater, even said it in the beginning
Dude hes literally reading a script 😂
@@kedrickd7They don't read scripts on these shows.
@@kylegoodman5196 Dude yes they do what big time show on National TV doesnt have a script
@@kedrickd7 Skip confirmed on a podcast they don't read scripts.
@@kylegoodman5196😂😂😂
You were trapped in that bubble Rachelle 😂😂💀💀
Trapped in there with Jimmy butler 😂
dang! now this trio together is quality stuff!!!!!!! get these three people together a lot more please!!!!!!!!!
these lebron v jordan debates are getting harder and harder for skip, if lebron wins the chip this year skip will have nothing left.....
Sure he would, MJ 6-0 with 6 finals mvps. Playing longer means you get more chances.
Love how PP is switching it up and keeping himself out of conversations. I hope he stays on track and gets the work in. ESPN was a disaster and I also am happy Skip bringing back very good people that ESPN discarded.
NO ONE EVER MENTIONS THE FIRST SEVEN YEARS WHERE HE NEVER MADE THE FINALS LOL THESE ARGUMENTS ARE BASELESS
They also never talk about Jordan’s first 5 years
That gets in my nerves 😂😂😂
When he lead the NBA in PTs scored as a rookie when he became the 2nd player other then Wilt to score 3,000 Pts in 1987 when he was MVP Scoring champ and DPOY in same season in 1988 when he scored the still playoff record 63PTs MJ was the GOAT before he won a title
He made the finals in 07
2007 he was already in the finals carrying bums you must be casual LOL 🤡🤡🤡
“At some point you just got say good lord.” -Paul Pierce🤣
They say this every year, he goes out sad again and nobody talks about this for a while. Then they nitpick something else to make this dude the goat
I could do skips speech without notes right now. No prep time needed, he does this once a show. The full speech.
They work well together. Keep this team for basketball
Who paid Paul Pierce 😂
Facts!
was thinking the same thing...
@@theworkingmanpodcast facts is 4-6 and 22-33 only west worse so again WHO paid Pierce 😉
That intro 😂
I really don't know how can you compare anyone with Jordan
Paul Pierce just did, did u not watch it? haha
By being objective, it’s that simple!
Ray Allen saved Lebrons legacy is one of my favorite throwback lines
not the 16 points lebron scored in the fourth lol
@@WopJrbut before those 16 points he struggled mightily… his team was carrying him up to that point!
@@hk2737hahaha
@@hk2737that’s what teams are for
@@hk2737 people say the 4th quarter matters more so who cares what happened up to that point? just more excuses
His owner Dan Gilbert accused him of QUITTING. 😂😂😂😂😂 never gets old.
Skips never seen anything like it😅
i would too if they never gave me help. thanks for old shaq.... really?
That time lebron average 28,8& 9
Skip: “Just because you played longer at a higher level doesn’t make you better” Okay skip…..we got it !
Pierce is the perfect match for this show.
I’m a Kobe fan so I got no dog in this fight. But what’s more impressive than a 3-1 comeback? Winning 6/6 and not even ALLOWING a Game 7!!
Against weaker competition in the finals
Yeah but he had no sweeps and he went to 6 games 5 finals in a row
Imagine the KD Warriors going up against the 1991 Lakers , 1992 Blazers, 1993 Suns the 1996 Sonics, 1997 and 1998 Jazz they would sweep every last one of those teams.
Different eras but I wish they had close that series vs Dallas and wishing Kyrie didn't get hurt in 2015 when he took GS 6 games+he should've been Finals MVP. So, Bron really should be 6-4 in the Finals. I tell ppl making it 10x is more impressive than a guy/team not making. Bron was hurt last season during the playoffs as well🙏🏽💯👑.
@@corrydakid7939PLEEZE Explain....🤔🤔
Please keep this crew. Pay Keyshawn to sit at home if you have to
First time I’ve watched undisputed in a while. Because of Paul pierce. Much as I love skip, he’s only as good as his co-host.
Let’s go Paul!! Let’s go! Proud of u homie!!! Many blessings!
How when AD is gonna be the main reason if they win anything....
True - LeBron is not the best player on Lakers - bad on defense - AD is the best player on Lakers. Jordan was always best playeron Bulls & Jordan always played defense - LeBron doesn't play defense and has a lot of turnovers and has more negative minute games than positive minute games.
@@JonMoody-fb2no Lebron was the best player on his team a lot later in his career than jordan was on his team. so what's your point? The lakers aren't making a playoff run without bron.
@@Colton-H If Lebron want to overtake Jordan though then he needs the finals mvp. 2 championships and 1 finals mvp to overtake Jordan, in the next few years at his current age. Obviously a long shot, but that's what it would take realistically.
A championship wouldn't be enough. He needs at least 2 championships and 1 finals mvp at this stage of his career to overtake Jordan in my opinion. 1 championship definitely wouldn't be enough.
Lebron may be 4-6 in the finals but 10 finals appearances is impressive
6 LOSSES IS NOT
Kareem has 10 too
Not when you are in the east
@suntansuperman26 Kareem is the true basketball great. From high school all the way to the pros he's the most decorated and won on every level. That's my opinion
@Flexican510 how many guys from the east or west make it more than once? Or even once? Dudes made it 10.
Very nice dynamic between the 3 of them
This is why Skip Bayless is numero uno in my opinion, he speaks facts, whether popular or not! 💯👍🏿👍🏿 Great show!
My problem with Keyshawn is that he doesn’t let anyone else talk uninterrupted.
He learned from the best in Skip Bayless
Actually thats not true . Skip listens before he says "is it my turn"?@@billycausgrove9657
Hey remember “there’s no party like a diddy party”
Keep this group!!!! Love the push backs!!!
MJ is a totally competitiveness driven personality. Once he dominated and accomplished everything he could, he felt no motivation to prove anything, not for more points, more minutes, more assists, etc. That’s why when he returned the first time, Phil set the goal for him by saying no one ever came back and built another three peat. That simply set the fire in MJ and from that point on, that’s his only purpose. So to take that kind of personality into account, there’s no way we can talk about longevity cuz once he’s done he moves on. What Lebron did is also amazing and lots of great achievements, a lot of those are accumulated achievements coming from Lebron’s huge passion and discipline to the game of basketball. That’s why I always say, if your measurement about GOAT is longevity over peak, then it’s Lebron all day. If you measurement is more toward to what you accomplished in prime mode, MJ all day cuz what he achieved in prime years is far better than what Lebron did. Period.
They always mention the miss before the Ray 3 but never mention Lebron was the one who hit the 3 to make it a 3 point game in order for Ray to even have the chance to make that shot have the value it so called does today
💯 and they always forget that that shotndidnt even win the fame itself. It went to OT then the Heat had to win game 7 which they did with LBJ hitting game closing jumper with half a minute left over Kawhi.
@@clw5382 💯💯 i see nothing but facts here
Oh my God mention the two turnovers by lebron that led to that. Mention Parker hitting the big shot over him. Mention two missed free throws by leonard and ginobili. We know if they make those the game is over...let's mention everything
Man, I love how Rachel is going at Skip Bayless. I love how she said Jordan did quit because he did..
Yep and he talked right over her when she said that as if he didn't want anyone to hear that.
@@anthonyporter1556 I saw that lol like it was a secret or something
Because his dad was murdered lol.......he came back
Jordan quit?! Jordan Dad got murdered...he did was at every game he ever had. He left on top, and came back and reclaimed his spot. Lebron knows nothing about that.....bc Kobe and Steph Curry has occupied that spot in the Lebron era....which is why he need super teams....and still can't do it
@@mr.dontcare4989 lol you can’t be serious and how many times did Lebron give up do I have to bring up the 2010 playoffs or the 2018 finals when he got embarrassed and swept and wore his wife’s scarf but he’s y’all goat man you don’t know nothing about basketball 😂
When everyone calls you the GOAT and you've won 3 rings in a row for the 2nd time, I'd quit too.
Keyshawn is great for football segments
Dam they they manage to slip paul peirce the blue pill
😂😂
Ur trying to get back to ESPN Rachel?😂
MJ played all 82 games 10 seasons LB just 1, MJ won 10 scoring titles LB just 1, MJ won 6 titles with the same team, LB went to superteams to win titles.
Lies
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143mj And kobe better than lebron 💯💯💯
@@arsenioseslpodcast3143elaborate
Wow.. Truth preachin'!
They want LBJ to be over MJ so bad. This whole play in tournament was to keep Lebron playoffs streak going and a better chance on reaching the finals to lose.
How many finals did magic lose
Facts
What?
@@albolton4974Less than LeBum
The play in tournament was implemented to keep bron in the playoffs??? Yall really be saying anything
Welp Paul…it was fun while it lasted 😂😂😂
That is a GIGANTIC "IF." lmao!!
This is the team right here. I’ve said this from the beginning. All Skip needed to do was replace Shannon with ONE PERSON. And keep his moderator. Rachel is the perfect moderator who can join the discussion. And Pierce is the athlete perspective. This is it. Stick with this.
People forget when the Heat loss to the Spurs they was down like 30 every game ...they never bring that series up
spurs were the clear cut better team
@@WopJr yea after they loss ..Heat were defending champs with 3 HOF and they beat Spurs year before
@@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVD defending champs with wade on one leg and bosh not full healthy with an oblique injury.
@@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVD how many HOF’s did the spurs have
@@THEHEAVYSPITTERSDVDyou act like the spurs didn’t have the same ammount of HOFS 😂
Here comes the “ I haven’t watched this show since Shannon left” Comments (Even though they watch it all the time) 😂😒🤯
Lmao! Facts
@@gregharper6382 That stuff boils my brain SMH lol
@@Flexican510 lmao bruh this has me weak it’s so accurate though 🤣🤣🤣
@@gregharper6382 Lmao It’s the ultimate truth bro they be lying 😂🤣
This is a winning formula. Pierce is awesome on the show !
Never thought I would hear these words from Paul Peirce
Skip’s argument looses steam by the day
people realize he leaves out context when it’s convenient. calling 51 points in a finals game from lebron a meltdown is crazy 🤦🏾♂️
@@WopJr if so jordan's 62 pt playoff game was a melt down to skips standard
@@reelclips425 facts
Hes made these arguments before LeBron was even born.
Being down 1-3 in the finals is not a flex. Especially when you are trying to make the point that he is the goat over a guy that never played a game 7 in the finals 🤦🏿♂️. Lebron had Kyrie stop acting like Kyrie isn't a real top 75
Kyrie was leading scorer for the Cavs in 3 finals games (tied one game with Lebron with 41 pts) the Cavs weren't some underdog garbage team. They were a powerhouse like golden state and I thought Golden State was overrated. They are not the greatest team ever assembled. They choked a lead away. The 72-10 Bulls got it done in regular season and finals. And Lebron didn't carry that team and make himself the greatest with that win. He assembled a great team and won. He should've. Put Kobe or Mike on that team and if they didn't win people would be saying they failed. And when Kobe tore it and so did Shaq he was carried but lebron brought this team to the top alone with another 25-35 a night guy. I'm over the Le'media spreading this BS
Answer this what exactly has Kyrie done without Lebron as a teammate that would make him top 75? Because he didn’t sniff the playoffs! And he’s barely been there!
This is the basketball group. Keep Keyshawn for football and this show can be great again
I'd like to ask this question. A coach is given a team with Michael Jordan of the year 1992. Lebron James of the year 2013. Steph Curry of 2022. Shaquille O'neal of 2000 . And Kevin Durant of 2017. Those are your starting five. Who's the focus built around on plays if you are the coach. Who's your closer? Who's taking the most shots? Who is your leader? I think it's a good question. Curious what everyone says. If anyone would like to sub in Magic, Kareem, Jokic, Wilt, Tim Duncan, or Kobe, Bill Russell, or fringe Larry Bird feel free to. No others are welcome in this discussion otherwise. Please mention the year you are attributing to the player.
Question for skip and everyone here, I’m genuinely curious: why does 6-0 get used so heavily when MJ had 9 other seasons? Does losing really only count when you lose in the finals? It seems like if you lose before the finals it doesn’t matter in terms of resume and I don’t get that. How is making a finals and losing worse than getting swept in round 1? Again, I’m just curious and don’t understand
Because the the hype of playing basketball is to win nobody gonna win every year in the modern era but to win every single time you get there and perform great every time is impressive along with awards and highlights and accolades shoes and all That he also won the championship every time he went how is that not to be celebrated if lebron was 4-0 in the finals would that not be impressive?
Jordan's path to the finals was tougher. The bulls had to beat 3-4 tough teams to play the best team in the West. Go look at LeBrons finals runs. They're littered with series vs the Bucks, Hawks, Magic, and shitting on Toronto regularly. It's way easier to win 1, maybe 2 tough series compared to 3/4 every playoffs. This also explains why LeBron was always facing these well oiled machines that come out of the West... they had already beaten several championship caliber teams before they got to him, while he's been coasting playing Brandon Jennings and the ghost of what was Michael Redd
Diddy broke Meek and LBJ the buckbreaking is Real😂
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Racheal and paul with skip brings him to earth i like this group
If jordan was that dude it wouldn't have mattered who his coach was
Saying Jordan's not that dude, is the worst take I've heard in a while.
@@penkima4923Jordan wasn’t a winner without Phil Jackson
@penkima4923 I never said he wasn't dope, he is. My question is, was it not a weak move to quit/ retire, bc his coach wasn't there?
@@jmickens313Phil Jackson was a nobody before he coached Jordan. You’re acting like Phil jackson won 11 rings then coached Jordan.
@@jmickens313 But Phil didn't win till he coached MJ lol
Championships are a team achievement. How is this hard to understand?
And then so are finals and playoff appearances. So are wins then right? Now we look at individual stats. Other than longevity, MJ clears Lebron on offensive PER game stats and defense as well. Plus all advanced stats like plus/minus, win shares, PER. So again Lebron been doing it great for a longer time. But MJ the best and most accomplished in his seasons of any player.
@@mak23997yep this argument would also negate Lebrons advantage on assists since those are a team stat as well
I'm Done Paul Pierce done sold out, another one bites the dust. Thanks Skip for telling the truth.
Jordan retired the first time because of behind the scenes issues. They know that but obviously they can’t speak on that. His father getting murdered, the gambling. The NBA didn’t want him to be the face anymore, hence why they keep pushing the narrative that LB is the goat over MJ and Kobe. He has a completely clean and perfect image that hasn’t been tainted…. Yet… His longevity will be questioned soon and that’s what Skip is indirectly referring to lol. KG spoke on it though.
Diddy might have something to say about that clean sheet
My thing is, was Jordan’s gambling really that bad? People act as if he gambled all his money away and had his family broke or something lol
Quitting is quitting
@@ReeseYo-kx4fn and jordan did it damn near 3 times
MJ retired he didn’t quit big difference Lebron QUIT on teams 3 times MJ went to play baseball because the NBA was no longer even a challenge to him anymore he was the best ever at that point nothing left to accomplish after that 1st 3peat
Paul needs to put the bottle down 😂. Jordan is clearly the goat.
A Paul pierce and skip bayless undisputed would be perfect skip I think that could be your guy !!! He’s good for undisputed it’s fits his character
This show is so much better with Paul and Rachel!
The idiocy that gets PAID to talk sports is completely insane. This industry is lame af.
It's just celebrity gossip for men
Rachel stop saying Jordan had Phil lol passing out Zen books and cleaning his glasses on the bench doesnt make him the best lol Tex Winters & Johnny Bach were the brains behind the Triangle and the Defensive scheme they ran !!! LEARN THE GAME!!!!
Keep Paul pierce on the show 🙏🙏🙏🙏
What a brilliant discussion. Great segment. Not your usual Jordan v Lebron clickbait.
Using Performance Enhancing Drugs is also a choice, Rachel.
Yep. There’s too much smoke with Lebron still playing at an ultra high level at the age of 39 without the helps of PEDs. He’s probably been doing it for years, too. Tom Brady as well. The advances in health, fitness, nutrition, etc., aren’t a proxy with the impact of PEDs. Current tainted legacies: Brady and Lebron. Come out with it NBA/NFL and stop protecting your pocketbooks.
Jordan was on the samething if you want to be real that's why he looked like that in Washington
Yep. You notice none of them even mention it? 2 credible accusations and it's like it was never said. PP was even there with KG when he said it!
@@alexandrel.9083 that’s an accusation, means there’s no evidence. Don’t understand the point of speculation when there’s nothing to grasp on the subject. There’s a reason nobody mentions it, it hold 0 weight.
@@albolton4974 Oh stop. Jordan was on PEDS now? Give me a break man. Such BS and so unrealistic.
Paul gotta be under klutch sports media too. Lmao damn
Larry bird also
So every person that says something positive about LBJ in the media is being paid by him... gotcha -_-
@@kirkcupido9730 it’s disgusting man. Smfh
😂😂dats stupppppiiiiiiddddd
Everybody seems to forget Andrew Bogut got injured game 5 of that finals...and He was always a starter and rim protector even a big part of the offense and when he went out they couldnt do it the same
Paul Pierce is best thing to happen to this show in forever. Just in case someone from FS1 is checking these comments. PIERCE IS GREAT FOR THIS SHOW.