Nissan Frontier PRO-4X vs Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro - Mud, Rocks & Water Find the Best Off-Road Truck!
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We pit the brand new 2022 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X against one of the best off-roaders in the segment, the 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro. The Tacoma has been one of the best for years, while Nissan has finally stepped up its game with a fresh interior and a new powertrain. But does it make the Frontier better off-road? Lets find out.
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You keep your weak sauced Taco with it’s shifty transmission. And I’ll take the Fronty with the more powerful (3.8L V6) powertrain and very capable (9spd trans) drivetrain along with its 5 year warranty.
If you picked the Tacoma should you pick the trd off road or trd pro?
I like that you guys actually drive these trucks like most people would. Some reviewers just crawl around, sweating the littlest scrapes. You guys bomb through the mud laughing off the hits.
expert sitters
When I bought my 2021 TRD off-road Tacoma and brought it off-road tons of people were complaining because it was brand new. What’s the point of buying one if you don’t use it is what I say.
Actually most people don't drive like this. They spend 99% of their time on pavement.
@@sucha603boy if its brand brand new you might wanna break the engine in first.
@@sucha603boy get a lift kit if you plan on abusing it. Keep the undercarriage in good shape.
First thing you would have to do after buying either one of one of those trucks is definitely replace those street tires for sure
That's why sometimes is better to buy a base trim. Might as well put some real stret tires, because you are paying for those soft terrain tires. To me when they offer offroad trims, they should have aggressive all terrains or mud, waterproof seats and level stance.
I have a Tundra TRD Pro and that is the first thing I did. Put on oversized Cooper Discover STT Pro mud tires. They also work really well in the snow.
@@TheRamblinDude my 20 Tundra came with Michelin AT 2s....I got Toyota steel rims and had Duratracs put on. I drive those for the late fall to mid spring.
Nito ridge grapplers 👍
@@TheRamblinDude Just put some STT pros on my lifted 2nd gen tacoma. They are beasts of tires. How loud is it on the highway 1-10?
Bought a 2023 Frontier Pro4x and have zero regrets. Awesome truck!
Thank you I just got one to and never heard anything bad about the newer ones only the cars with the shit cvt but all cars with cvt are also shit
Same here 23 prò 4x glacier white. I love it
I'd love to see this video without switching drivers. I was looking forward to hearing the comments from the driver as a comparison, but you guys switched out. The driver plays a huge part in doing these runs, so I think that's a little bit of a miss for this test.
Was thinking the same.
Yes. Major flaw. Basic experiment design tells you to eliminate variables where you can, not add them.
Agree I think both trucks would have been even with same driver
This was my first thought when they switched drivers. Then they continued to do so. Fun for them on this outing but it potentially greatly weakens the results. However good video and I felt they gave an honest opinion. Been looking for a new ride for a couple years now. Toyota seems to have went down hill with the newest models in 2024. Nissan seems to be stepping it up a bit. Personally I want the simplest truck I can get my hands on. Pretty sure its gonna be a Nissan for me.
Your dad is the best. Only reason I watch. He knows more about trucks than most people aquire in their whole life.
Nissan is gonna win the price battle every time so for something that can “keep up” with the Tacoma I’d call that a win for Frontier
True and most people don’t drive off road.
True, if I had the money I'd go for the Tacoma but to save thousands on the Frontier for it to do the same job i'm taking the Frontier. Lets just hope the Frontier doesn't need a lot of maintanence.
@@Daemien21 yeah but the frontier will probably catch up in $$$$ in terms of reliability
I’d rather a 2 wheel drive with posi then that Nissan. Nissans aren’t as reliable or even close to being as durable. Good luck 👍
@@sae1er clearly haven’t seen the the last frontier which 90% of the truck is based. Just new a body, interior, suspension geometry. We have 13 2010’s on our job site still going with 230k+ miles and nothing but annual oil changes, batteries and brakes pads. 1 set of front rotors each and obviously tires. We’ve lost 2 Silverado‘s and 1 F150 I’ll before they hit 160k……we almost replaced them before production ended on the D40 to keep op costs down especially since Nissan was selling SV 4wd for 22k .
Another great actual review. You guys drive like most people would be out in the back woods, unlike many other reviewers who stop at the slightest bit of mud, you guys hammer through it like any normal person would. That's what people need to see, what does the vehicle really do when you drive it like you really would be in the real world.
Frontier offers so much more for the money. Pro4x starts at 37k, while trd pro starts at 45k by the way
And a certified pre owned Frontier with less than 20k miles is a hell of a deal. They don't keep their resale value like Toyotas, to our benefit as the buyer.
Dad/Senior Partner was awesome in this video. Dropped a curse and pulled rank to get out the rain. Must be proud to have two big boys in his image 👍. Great work fellas!
Thanks for that. Blessed to be able to work with my sons.
@@TruckKing put the big guy on a diet
@@TruckKing Not to get to heavy, but cherish these moments. I lost my dad recently.. don’t take it for granted.
TRD Pro is not an equal competitor to the Pro4x. Do the same test with the TRD offroad with the "same" Bilstein shocks as the Pro4x.
I’ve got a 2012 pro 4x and love it. Running some Toyo AT. Never a second thought when entering what others won’t attempt. Also should mention 125k miles and nothing but oil changes and battery. Solid truck.
I love my taco , but that 4x is a ultimate ride
Lol “what others won’t attempt” 😂 dude I go places that would swallow a fucking Pro4X and I know this for a fact because my Buddy has a pro4x and I’ve had to rescue him multiple times. Same goes for the Tacomas
@@BoostedYote cool story bro.
@@BoostedYote XJ?
You got a lift kit on it? Can’t find good ones for the pro 4x
There was probably slight differences in the test because the Toyota went first. I think to really even things out you would need to make multiple passes in each truck and then have an average to base the overall performance on. It was cool seeing what you did do though.
Yep even 4wheeling my 86 Toyota pickup in the mud each pass gets slicker and more difficult.
I was thinking the same thing here. Who hasn't drawn straws to see who gets to go first. The second truck is always going to struggle a little more. My 2019 Frontier Pro4 does a great job AND it was significantly less expensive.
For the price difference, the frontier would be my choice. With the extra money you saved, you could upgrade the suspension and tires and have a far superior vehicle
1,000 dollars difference tho
@@remycris2108 in the U.S, but in Canada that's a big difference
@@remycris2108 ? I counted $7232. plus 13% tax ($940) = $8172 CDN difference! Lots of play money. But, I still bought the '21 Taco...
I keep wondering what a set of KO2's on the Pro4X could do, so yeah, cheaper truck with a bit of room to upgrade could be a nice pathway to a nice piece of kit without having to pay the Toyota tax.
In the NH overland challenge, teams with Toyota’s had zero broken parts, the one team with Nissan’s had broken CV axles. There were a lot more Toyota trucks in the field. It doesn’t matter how much you “upgrade” there is no way Nissan is more superior platform to a Toyota. Sorry dude.
Just sitting down to breakfast and a new truck King off-road comparison video?? What a great start to the day!
Morning!
Really good review of these two trucks. TRD PRO and a manual isn't the same, but close enough to show the Nissan's capability. I am in the market and the Nissan's comfort will probably be what sways me. I don't care about cost, will never go heavy offroading, have no brand loyalty and will likely keep it so long that resale isn't really a factor. Which truck is better to haul a small dual sport motorcycle around the backroads of America for a retired guy? Probably the Frontier.
I just got my new Nissan pro 4X it’s to nice to off road not with 2024 frontier ride is nice
I like how you take the time to do the review on the trucks on-road and off-road a lot of people don't do that
This channel is THE BEST truck review channel. BY FAR
You could maybe even say it's the king of truck review channels?
Tfl
The video the people have been asking for! Best review channel on youtube. Just wish y'all could so some different trails time to time!
Nissan has been the greatest thing to happen to small pickups in a long time. Tacoma hasnt had any competition and its made an honestly sub par truck compared to the first and second gens 20 years ago. Nissan is pushing the bar and giving us more options
Tacoma hasn't had any competition ??????????? Maybe you are right, the Colorado ZR2 is in a class by itself. The reason I bough one.
@@jakestclair5682 i argree, but those a bigger trucks. Those compete with the tundra more than anything. Tacoma is a smaller pickup more aligned with jeep and more recently the ranger, but not many people like the ranger, so the Nissan is their biggest competitor
3rd gen literally uses a lot of the same panel stamps, frame and dimensions as the 2nd gen. Motor was upgraded to a Lexus block with forged bottom end. What exactly makes it subpar vs the 2nd gen?
@@WolfPackM98c nothing honestly, i love the 4.0. Your definitely correct. They dont seem to be as common, and I personally own a 3.4 4runner, so 3rd gen, but same motor as second taco. So im a little biased😂, i got a buddy with a supercharged 2010 and he loves it, it has 230k on it last i talked to him, they are great motors. My only thing is I personally dont like to body style or the interior as much. But thats pure opinion, its based on looks. I like what toyota did with the 4th gens, which are definitely reliable, but compared to 2nd and 3rd or even the 1st gen 22re they arent nearly as good
@@RandomUser2388 Well yeah everything across the board is inferior to the 80’s-90’s Toyota’s. Completely different business model now. But the change came in the mid 2000’s. I just don’t know why people bash the 3rd gen so much when it is so close to the 2nd gen in actual design and materials. If anything there was a significant drop off from the 1st gen and then 2nd-3rd gen are basically identical. 4.0 is a good engine but again I don’t understand the favoritism over the 3.5. It’s the same block and the 2GR was designed at the same time as the 1GR with stronger components for Lexus platform vehicles. It is, literally, an upgraded version of the 1GR. Since 2010, 4.0’s have used the same VVT-i system that was first put on the 2GR.
What a great video! Proper review of the manual tacoma, and i love to hear you guys giggling your heads off as you go through the trail! You guys may have the best job in the world! Great work. Cheers gents!
Love the family dynamics of this channel. Great seeing dad behind the wheel taking on the left hook.
Thanks 👍 It was fun - gotta pull that one stump though - scared the **** out of me.
@@TruckKing 😂
You guys know how to really properly test these trucks. Keep up the great work.
Another great video guys. I really like both trucks. I had ‘97 Nissan Hardbody I wish I never sold so I’m leaning towards buying a Frontier in a couple of years. Tacomas with a 3 inch lift and bigger tires does look awesome though.
Outstanding non biased review. I like both trucks but if I ever replace my 02 Frontier, it’ll be another Frontier 😊
Love my .2024 pro 4x to nice to off road the ride I love love the stirring
"Well, to tell the truth, it's raining outside...." awesome
I bought the 2022 Nissan. Comfort, and power, plus I just liked the feel off road where I went.
For trails, sand and less hardcore offroad I decided to get the Frontier simply because they seem close enough in performance but I liked the Frontier's styling a little better.
and price 🤣
Finally some real off road videos! Tired of other people driving in their backyard and calling it off road lol
Great review. Love your energy and enthusiasm.
good luck finding a TRD Pro for that price in the USA!!!
I think the better comparison would have been the Tacoma TRD Off Road. Nissan has less trim levels and the TRD PRO is considerably more expensive. Not to mention it should be automatic to automatic. Manuals are very difficult to find in the lower 48. Toyotas auto shifts odd on the road. Great videos love the channel.
Best Off-Roading Channel out there! Wonderful comparison!
Thanks for the vid! It’d be great if you both took turns in both vehicles to get driving and passenger feedback from both testers.
Im a Tacoma owner. I am glad to see Nissan putting out the mid-sized truck again. It doesn't look that bad either. More competition is better for the consumer. I am confused though, the bed stickers say TRD off road, and it has Pro badges...
I see SR5 badges all the time with trd off road 4x4 logo on the side. What i came to believe is the trd off road badge is only placed when bilstein Suspension, yet just misses locking diff, sometimes it will be a give snd take what they will add
I agree the trd off road is different than pro. I’ve got a 21 trd off road with bistein shocks and also the trd logos only say v6 on tailgate I thought and had the trd logo on side
The Pro is a souped up TRD Off-Road 4x4, with a few upgrades like the fox shox
@@criss_vision1225 No, it's just SR5 guys pretending they have the TRDOR. The best thing I can assume on the TRDPRO is it's a test vehicle loaned to the truck king or a TRDOR with a bunch of pro parts put on it. That hood has a decal that is either a copy of the TRDPRO one or one of the non-logo's used on the early test/promo vehicles.
It's definitely a TRD Pro but with the added Off Road badges for some reason.
Like the way you guys present this video comparison with cool and great casualness ! Awesome video!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for another great vid. I think I would still take the Nissan just for the updated interior. Would love to see a run off between the taco and either the Ranger tremor or ZR2.
Another reason why you guys have an amazing channel. Been waiting for this since the Frontier was introduced.
Finally a good comparison video. You all did a great job comparing them and your opinions are appreciated. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Great job fellas… way to flex those shocks 💪🏼
I like both of these trucks. Can’t really make up my mind. I used to have a 2014 Frontier SV and (probably foolishly) traded it in at 75,000 miles for an SUV. But while I had it, it was the most impressive truck I’ve ever owned. Took it off-road a few times, and even though it had 4WD I literally never needed it on any terrain I took it through, even standing water and 8 inches of snow. It was a tank!
Love the color choice on these two trucks Awesome video enjoy the content
Your the first channel to actually show some off-road footage of the frontier. No one on KZhead seems to wants to put footage of it off-roading.
This is exactly what I wanted to see. Great work!
Fun fun. I had the 2019 TRD off road with manual. Only got it stuck once. Now I have a 2022 automatic. Haven't taken it off road yet but I will. Great video
I am Taco owner and I really welcome new midsize Nissan pick up! I hope there is more competitions in Mid size trucks.
I’ve been saving my money for a diesel Tacoma available in the USA. It’s stupid that we don’t get one when Chevy has a midsize diesel pickup. I’ve been saving for years expected to get one in 22 but nope.. still waiting.
Great video. I just bought a '22 Frontier SV 4x4 and I'm super stoked. The dealer even threw in the bed tent for camping since it was a display truck, definitely going to be taking it into the wilderness :)
Dealer Mark up?
@@jrladislao Nope paid MSRP
@@tomh507 nice. I was looking at the frontier but couldn’t wait for it to come out so I got something else.
Get lost!.... seriously have fun getting lost
luckyyyy. I have an older frontier but looking for a 4x4
TRD Pro manual... I'm in love.
With a Frontier, you have to watch your gas foot when off road as the engine delivers more torque. Easier to spin the wheels because of the torque. Once you get used to it, you really like it though. FWIW, the torque has helped me with my Frontier out west, where the mountain roads are MUCH steeper. Can crawl slower w/o worrying about stalling because of the torque. I've had to wait for other people who were struggling in their Tacos, F150's and Rams, and then just walked up the hill with no issues on a mud and ice coated trail. Had to be light on the pedal though.
Hello from Northern Wisconsin 🌲 I’ve got a 13’ Pro 4X with a 105k and I’ve had that thing everywhere… never failed me. In 4-low I can blast through 2-3ft of snow or mud without any issue, and if I do get stuck, E-lock will crawl me out… but most of the trail driving and snow driving is done in 4-Hi. My buddy is a Nissan tech so he does all the maintenance for a great price… all synthetic fluids changes done liberally. Only issue is gas mileage, especially if 4WD is used often… and the 4x4 icon doesn’t disengage immediately after using 4-low and E-lock (no idea why) But she’s been golden from Montana to Maine 🙏🏻 🇺🇸
Great catch on the suspension dynamics and performance. The suspension is probably the number 1 game changer when tackling off road obstacles at a higher speed as you did there in the videos.
But the toyota sucks on regular roads, which is 99% of where people use it. I hated driving a tacoma when I had one for work. Hated it. My old Colorado drives a thousand times nicer.
I would buy a new Xterra if Nissan ever makes one
Love this channel these are always having a great time testing vehicles
Glad you enjoy it!
@@TruckKing please do the 2022 tacoma trd pro....when it is available
Nissan just for the looks ❤️
Nissans are very underrated here in north america when it comes to the off road game because we never go the patrol. You throw in some Toyota tax and the frontier is a no brainer since you will be able to afford a nismo lift which the trd pro essentially has from the factory.
Well…. The NISMO name Carrie’s a LOT of weight. It’s known as one of the BEST performance lines out there. I like the Taco but a NISMO overland suspension on a 22 Frontier would be miles ahead of the TRD pro. We already have seen this on the last gen frontier. It slaps the shit out of anything Toyota put forward. Love both Trucks. Personal went with the Frontier because it drives more like a truck and has a pretty noticeable amount of power vs the taco. Also, when Nismo parts drop they’ll level the taco lol
Nissan has a history on putting the alternator on the bottom of the engine in some its off road vehicles. That’s a bad decision and I have seen Nissans fail after minor water crossings. Hopefully this truck is different.
@@thatdonnyguy got a 19 Frontier SL. Couple months ago I went through several of those awesome Detroit floods we have every summer with no issues.
@@313bootboy6 awesome. I’ve seen an Xterra and a Frontier have alternator failure on forest roads in Florida on different occasions. Both vehicles had alternators on the bottom of the engine which when submerged the caused alternator failure.
I second that with a 2005 Xterra that had alternator damage after getting stuck in about 3 feet of water once. Managed to get pulled out and drove off, but the alternator died a week later along with the throttle body. Nevertheless, a great truck with a super powerful and fun drivetrain with the 4.0 and a six speed manual.
The little bit of extra power on the Pro4x is nice off road.
Great video! Thanks guys!
Great video guys! I have a 2021 Nissan Frontier and I like how honest you guys are and FAIR. So many reviews are bias toward Tacos and it’s just annoying. I like you guys so much so, I’m going to like, subscribe, and buy some merchandise!
Thanks for watching!
I think the Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4 would have been a more apples to apples comparison. The TRD Pro is more a direct competition to the Chevy ZR2. I think the TRD Pro and ZR2 are the top offroad mid-size trucks in the segment as far as pure ability straight from the factory. Good to see the new Frontier keep up with the Pro. Just imagine how it would do with the Bilstein 6112s in the front and 5165s in the rear....
ZR2 eat tacos for breakfast
@@elbroncodelasierra2903 ZR2 stands for ZeRo2es, or cerotes. Taco sh*ts ZeRo2es before breakfast 🤣
@@erod6468 actually most Tacoma driver are cerotes/ Central Americans One of the main reasons I don’t drive nothing related with Toyota
I bet the trd off-road would have felt about the same as pro-4x, because those two compete, trd pro is a class above pro-4x. Anyways, pretty cool video guys
Yeah exactly the trd off road is the direct off road trim competitor to the pro4x , not the TRD pro. ..too bad Nissan doesn't have a level above trim for off road. I'm assuming they are just testing what they were given by the manufacturers ..still cool to see Either way still nice video....one of the .best off road testing channels on KZhead!
I think a Nissan with a Nismo PCG to compete direct with the TRD PRO IS coming
TRD-tuned FOX internal bypass shocks. These 2.5-inch shocks have remote reservoirs in the rear and offer more ground clearance, more travel, and maximum dampening without any fade vs. the Frontier's Bilstein monotubes? The Taco Pro is a desert runner vs. The Frontier being a slow dirt trail truck like the TRD offroad is.
the bed stickers say TRD off road, and it has Pro badges.
@@edwilson9243 That’s the truth. The only thing is I doubt it’ll be a direct comparison. Only because NISMO performance is overkill lol. Probably need to do a Pro4x overland edition to make a fair competition. If you swap all the NISMO parts in it’s gonna smash the taco.
Great videos guys keep them coming
Great off road review! I agree that the Toyota shines off road, but the Nissan wins for everyday street driving.
Dad droppin the movie line, oh fuuuddge, right in time for the holidays! Im impressed with the frontier but it just wasnt quite as good as the tacoma. Mainly because of the lack of clearance. An awesome test tho and the drivers win no matter what..i love this trail setup guys. Yet another video well done
I’m still in love with the old frontier 4.0 V6 🤔
Me too since I own a 2018 with 14,800 miles.
Love my 2017 it was my first new vehicle and its done everything I need I've pulled alot of trailers with it and gone across the country often with it and I've not had any complaints just paid it off gonna drive it until it blows up
My brother had a 2009 Frontier, he beat the hell out of that truck, canadian winters, 230,000km and he sold it to his buddies who use it still as a shop truck, hauling tires and stuff, still running. tough truck. tough rigs.
@@NYstranger74 dammmmmm
13’ Pro-4X with 105k and it’s been a beast ~ towing the bass boat, ripping trails scouting hunting spots, dealing with heavy snow here in Northern Wisconsin, and it smashes the dunes on Lake Michigan and the rough trails on Lake Superior… One small recall at 20k for an exposed wire harness and the annoying 4x4 icon taking forever to shift back to 2-wheel after using 4-low or E-Lock… but it’s not an issue. Both are great trucks and can make lots of great memories. Either will do😎
Like to see the two tested in deep dry sand (tire pressure 18 psi) and also foot or so of snow in hilly terrain. Those are more common for me. I’ve had earlier models of both. Current is 2012 Frontier with 6 speed manual. May be shopping in a yr.
All about the tire..
Great review guys!
Nissan has stated that the Pro4-X is meant as a direct competitor to the TRD Off-road trim of the Taco... But great comparison nevertheless! Nissan should make a more capable Off-road Frontier with a suspension lift, better shocks, tires, and approach angles. Maybe a Nismo off-road Frontier?
I was just about to say the direct competitor to the Pro-4x is the TRD-Off Road. A trd off road Tacoma’s suspension would have struggle the same as the pro 4x.
Seems like they did a pretty good job with the bronco but Man the price tag!😬
@@mattwilcox8134 agreed, but prices were spot on competitive
@@Bigwilliestyle322 Not really when you factor in the options. The TRD Pro starts at $45k where as for 45k on the frontier, that’s literally every single option. If it was a base level Pro4x, it would have been $38k
@@mattwilcox8134 I’ll trust your homework internet stranger! Fair enough
very good review. The Frontier Pro 4x is more equivalent to a Tacoma TRD offroad not the pro model but I get you are comparing the best offered from both.
You and your Dad are great, excellent content and reviews. If you were going to buy a new 2022 midsize truck, I do light/infrequent offroad, which midsize well equipped pickup would you buy? I like the Tacoma Trail Package 1, but you get little for the money (CAD$57,000). Seems rich when you get a full jam ZR2 or PRO4X for the same money?
A great video but can you do another video on the SR5 4X4, the Frontier SV 4x4, and the Ranger XLT 4x4...now that would be a great video!
Man I love this channel!!!!!!
The only place where you will see a real off road video comparison. Great job guys. Would have liked to see a Tacoma off road trim instead of the Pro because these are really hard to find on dealer lots even in normal conditions.
I bought a TRD Off Road in Sept and put a 3” lift on it and put Faulken tires. We had 12” of snow in January and I had absolutely no trouble getting in or out of my driveway (which is steep) or back and forth to work. I’m a Medical Assistant and I have to get to work in snow or ice. It went a lot better than my 4Runner and my TRD Sport I use to own.
Great information! I currently own a 2017 Frontier 4x4 SV. I'm going to buy the new Frontier soon but NOT the Pro 4x4 because the suspension was way too tight during my test drive, and as demonstrated in your video.
Glad it was helpful!
Tenho uma frontier, estou muito satisfeito, aqui no Brasil Toyota Hilux vende mais, porém a frontier é mais segura e confortável .
If I got one I would get the taco with the standard and add the Magnusson supercharger. I'd also do after market gearing and air lockers which would also add the central air compressor system. Lastly, I'd go with a nominal 3" lift and finish I off with a set of ko2's.
I looked up how much and its 9k to buy and install the supercharger oh lawd
What about a small lift on the frontier to increase angles etc? I have had both and honestly the frontier just feels better .everyone gets a truck and makes it their own anyways so I'm sjre either one will make people happy after some tweaks .
Lift, suspension, tires equals 10 grand minimum if you don’t DYI, also you save on gas with the tacoma and you need that extra hp in the Nissan for the extra 300+ lbs. so idk, both made for f’n around on the mountain for sure. 🏔 win-win IMO
Definitely don't need 10k to change tires and add a lift, lol. I think the PRO-4X takes it. Only thing I think the TRD has better is the FOX shocks
@@STRAIGHTEDGEJAKE i guess it depends on what kind of lift .some go cheap now if you wanted kings,spc ucas,tires,rims,custom leaf springs I'm sure you spend close to ten grand .kings are gonna be about 3500 as it is but you could also do it much cheaper.get some bilsteins,dobinsons etc,aal or longer shackle ,rims,tires I could see it done for 3 grand ish ..my thing is the tacoma I had had issues and 4 dealers disnt care to help .also a plastic type bed was annoying in the wind .i had the rumble strip vibration even after new leafs,shim added,new drums etc any tsbs i found for 2019 that might of fixed mine they refused to look at since mine was a 2020 .even tho it zeema on tacomaworld about 50%of people had the same issues they claimed everything is normal.even if I just let it coast to a stop id get decel vibration.made me worried in few years id the tranny would have issues or if id just always seem rough.i dont wanna buy a new truck and everytime i drive im annoyed or have to wonder "wtf is wrong with this thing" i wanna drive it and daydream about other shit ...im happy with the frontier. No issues,much bwtter ride and it looks like if you did a lift you wouldnt need to worry about cv angles or driveshaft angles as much..have you zeen the frontier carrier bearing? This thing iz beefy!!if you havent gotten under a new frontier go check it out.looks like you do a few inch lift and not have to worry about angles .
@@STRAIGHTEDGEJAKE $10k? A decent lift kit is around $500 and tires around $1500. You prob spend a couple grand at the most. Adding Wheels might be an extra $1500 depends on brand but that's about it
@@peyten3237 I know, like $10k, those must be Luis vitton Rims and lift kit
Hahaha. Typical dad. I owned a 16 Tacoma 2x off road and drive a 16 frontier 4.0 for work. Toyota always has way better suspension than Nissan and it still shows here. You pay for what you get hand down. Thanks for the content.
Ok I’ve been cross shopping these trucks and that brought me to this channel, but that’s besides the point because holy cow, This channel is amazing. Just some guys really thrashing some stock trucks. Most reviewers take it over a few little stones and nit pick each little thing, while yall throw it around in the mud like most people would. 10/10
Welcome aboard!
Excellent review 👏
What would be really cool is to see the same test with the "TRD 4x4 off-road" because both of the 🚛's would have the same (similar) Bilstein suspension & see if the Toyota bounces around like that Nissan & see if it's the shocks themselves or the actual way that it's tuned from factory 🤷🏻
Totally agree! Not a fair comparison!
That is the TRD off road. It's says it on the side. Plus you can tell it's definitely not the sport.
I traded my 21 Tacoma for the new frontier.. Nissan did a hell of a job. I wish I would of switched sooner
@@highrootsoriginals2870 Nissan might go out of business you might want to look into that I like the truck also I think the frontier looks good hopefully these new trucks will get some sales going for them but they're not in a good spot financially they've been pieces of shit cars for years especially that Altima 🤷🏻
@@Dontgivein it’s a TRD Pro not the TRD Off-road. It’s stated in the video, it’s badged, and you can see Pro features on the vehicle.
The 6spd manual for the win. And, as an added benefit 90% of the population couldn’t steal it.
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Great review 👏 👌 bro, With actual road test.
Thanks ✌️
Good catch with the suspension differences.
21 Tacoma SR owner. Looking to do some suspension upgrades. Definitely believe I have a great truck to work with and last me through the years. Love the real life comparison. Great shots of both trucks hitting the same holes and rocks.
The additional 7000.00 toyota tax has me considering the pro 4x. 7k in upgrades should help with most of the concerns.
With $7k you could do a Titan swap and have money left over.
It won't help when it comes time to sell it or you get involved in an accident... Frontier will not hold value the same.
I actually work at a dealership ship and just purchased a pro4x I've actually gone off roading with a Rubicon and kept right up my only complaint is the trails I was on I had wished my pro4x came with a 2inch lift to help with clearance other then that I have all the bells and whistles it's super comfortable and I love it 😀
I'm a Tacoma guy. Had a 99. Now I have a 09 & 01 TRD . 09 is 4*4 . Great video 👍
I bought a Frontier Pro-4x and love it so far. I figured the Taco would do better off road and you showed that. The shots showing the suspension differences were hard to argue. I would still choose the Frontier just for the simple fact that everyone has a Taco and I wanted something different. Thanks for not stressing about little scrapes and actually pushing the throttle, other channels baby these trucks and wonder why they don't perform.
I'm looking at a Nissan fronteir now..I have a 2006..selling it. Do u tow anything with it.. hiw do u like it still.. I absolutely love the interior they updated them with
@@shawnlewis1356 I've towed my trike with it through the mountains. It did fine with no issues. Payload isn't the best but it's the same with most of the midsize trucks.
The Frontier looks good. I like the manual transmission in the Taco. I know it can make towing (which I do) and off roading (also do) a little more difficult, but I like the manual.
rev hang, or should I say, emissions standards, ruin modern manuals. Older Toyota manuals were great, new ones would be good if they weren't programmed to force a delayed shift.
@@liveoak7838 What? The clutch and gear lever aren't drive by wire. You can clutch in and switch gears whenever you want, can you not? I drive a '94 Toyota pickup DLX (4x4, 22RE, Xtracab, 5 speed) so maybe I'm a bit detached from contemporary trucks.
@@cbh148 it's the programming that keeps the throttle body open longer and close slower when you let go of the gas pedal. drive by wire with electronic throttle body control is what gives the manufacturer that ability and they have to do it (they say) because of the emissions created if they let the throttle body close immediately like it does on your truck. just google rev hang and you will see. sure it's nice that they still offer manuals, but don't expect it to shift as nice as your 94 pickup. it will force you to delay shifts. you may not notice it if you didn't have an old school manual. there are companies like qrevs www.revhang.altervista.org/ that make modules to fix it for some vehicles.
@@cbh148 Modern manuals have accumulators that are supposed to make them easier for novices to engage/disengage the clutch. For experienced drivers it’s more of an inconvenience. Not a huge deal. I bought some hardline tubing for $20 and bypassed it on my 3rd gen Tacoma
@@WolfPackM98c I did the same thing on my 240sx. Makes bleeding the system easier too. But what the guy commented was that the newer Toyota’s were programmed to force a delayed shift, which makes it sound like less of a mechanical thing and more of an electronic deal, however that could work. Accumulators on the clutch lines have been around since like the 70s.
Had to pause at 8:05, hats off to camera man, nerve of steel lol he didn't even flinch
Just a thought - for the extra 7-10K, one can get the Frontier and do a suspension upgrade and still have money for accessories. The Pro4X is really comparable to the TRD Offroad which also has similar Bilstein shocks.
Love the Frontier! Finally something different than Taco on the road. Good review!
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In Texas frontiers are everywhere where I am and dodge trucks I recently bought a 2019 frontier with under 17k miles for about 25k cash and a 4k car trade in he offered 2k but still took the car but I technically still paid 29 but the 4k car was free anyways so to me I only paid 25k
It's the sv model
I have a 2019 Tacoma Off Road and I've not been impressed. I have many friends that love it eventhough theirs performs as horrible as mine.....just not loving it. I love your review though, it's the most realistic I've seen EVER
I drove a '04 Frontier for 17 years, upgraded to a '21 Taco Off-Road...Pedal Commander Lives Matter!🤣🤣🤣 Great video!
Thanks for the review , it made my mind up.👍👍👍👍
Glad I could help
This is the video I was looking for! Good job, Truck King. Yes the Taco performs better at higher speed, but the Nissan wasn't left behind. For well over $7k in savings when you factor in tax and financing, I'll stick with the Nissan. And if those seats are as good as the "zero gravity" seats I had in my 2015 Pathfinder, the Nissan will be way more comfortable all day long.
What you save in initial msrp you'll lose on resale with the Nissan unfortunately
@@nonickerson frontier has good resale value, though not quite as good as the toyota...and the new model frontier hasn't even been on the market long enough to determine that.
Toyota for the most part is more reliable then nissan
@@josealvarez2149 my brothers toyotas have been anything but reliable, he owns a mr2 and a 1994 toyota pickup. They both have there fair share of problems...and the 3.0 v6 in those pickups is well known for all sorts of issues. That being said I still think toyota is one of the better auto manufacturers, but not perfect by any means. I have worked in the auto repair industry since 2003 and I can tell you the frontier and tacoma are so similar in construction, that it's really just about what you prefer. I for one find the tacoma uncomfortable with its low seating position and low roof. And I trust the nissan brand because I've owned 3. So I would choose the nissan.
@@shaunoftheguads Dude it’s not even close. The Tacoma is the best reselling vehicle there is. Look at used values, comparable Frontiers aren’t even fetching half the value of a Tacoma. Not only are Tacomas always demanding top market value, but they are hard to get even at that price which is why they appreciated this last year. My ‘17 Tacoma is still worth more than I paid for it new. Dealers are already doing 2K off MSRP for new Frontiers. I agree with you it’s a good truck. Could even be a better one. It will still be worth half as much in a few years.
For the $10k you save on the Nissan, you could put a really nice suspension wheels and tires on
Better save that 10k for maintenance.
this week it has been 3 years since my father passed you are the 2nd person that does what you did that expression 13:07 remind me of my father he did that every time a task was to be taken brought a smile to my face thank you, the first time I see this channel already like it kudos from the Dominican republic here the Hilux of Toyota is the flagship pick up to beat there are many mid sizes pick up that don't reach the U.S the Isuzu Dmax is one that give Toyota a run for its money.
welcome and thanks
Great video enjoyed it
You made a really really good point with the visual comparison of the two suspension differences and package differences. Between the two I honestly WOULD choose the Tacoma based on everything presented. But overall I know it will sound bias but I owned a TRD Pro but love my 22’ ZR2, you did a comparison of the ZR2 a while back and it completely sold me on that truck.
How do you like the ZR2? At that price point I couldn’t get over no keyless entry or push button
Man I can’t WAIT to see you guys take the new tundra out on this trail.
It’ll be dragging it’s ass all day long on the trails. It’s lower than it’s predecessor for gas mileage.
Pretty cool review , keep up the good work
Thanks!