Bloodraven: what’s the three-eyed raven’s secret plan?
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Who is the three-eyed raven, aka Brynden Rivers aka Bloodraven aka the three-eyed crow? Why did he fight his half-brothers in the Blackfyre rebellions? What are his connections to the old gods and Azor Ahai? What are his plans for Bran Stark and Jon Snow? Is he involved with Daenerys and Quaithe? Did he inspire the Euron Greyjoy’s eldritch apocalypse?
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0:00 Brynden Rivers
5:42 Three-eyed crow
7:21 Bran
8:02 Jon
9:11 Prophecy
13:44 Darkness
16:40 Crow's Eye
19:20 Bloodraven
Euron in the books: A mad God-wannabe Euron in the series: A fuqboi
No Shit Sherlock I love The Hounds comment: “God is a Cunt! All Gods are Cunts!” 👍🏻🦉
@@el6237 cersei - thats why there gods
Euron in the book is seriously terrifying, an insane sadist through and through who can also use magic.
Xiyu Yang A pedohile, wizard, priest-killer, kinslayer, kingslayer, childkiller, raper, reaver, and insane sadist --- Euron is seriously fucked up in the book. Not mentioning sailed into the ruins of Valyria and lived to tell the tale.
@@markbernardvidad459 the show euron: "finger in the bum" great job d&d
I love how stern and serious these episodes are and then you get random gems like “he stepped out for a ciggy and never came back” 😂😂
His voice makes it all the more better
Or “His children were out of the question, as they were dead or dumb or female”
this video is about books, hbo Andies
"And that bear Tormund f*cked"
"He pinky promised he wouldn't kill him, and then he totally kills him"
bloodraven lost 50 years of his life saying "ah shit, here we go again" for each boy who falls hahahahahahah
Another crippled child: falls towards the spikes Blood raven: aw shit, here we go again.
Bloodraven: Its surprising how common of an occurance this is
It goes something like this: kzhead.info/sun/ddidoJGremqDfYE/bejne.html
I don't think he only did it to people who lost their legs, it looks like he does it to any greenseer he can find, it's very likely he tried to do it to euron but failed and saw how that turned out so went for Bran because chances are you can't take over the world and make yourself a god if you can't walk
Bloodraven: "No, no, you're supposed to fly with your mind; Stop flapping your arms!"
When a fan theory is actually better than the actual plot.
well this is mostly from the books, the show cuts like 70-80% of it. so even if we remove the fan theory from this video and leave only the facts from the books, it's still way better what what it ended to be in the show. what we expected from him at the start was some real magical shit, something that can manipulate the world probably. seeing everything and maybe whispering and guiding the people to victory. instead we received the world's archives. i mean we technically have this in the library in Oldtown.. and a glorified spy.
The plot of the show** I hope to god GRRM's last book is better than the shite we had to sit through
GRR Martin may not have written WoW or DoS yet, but he's had 8 years to think about what he wants to put in there. I'm pretty sure it going to be amazing if he ever actually bothers to finish it.
Happens quite a lot.
Duy Khanh I’m not one to praise theorists, but Alt Shift X and bridge4’s videos are legitimately amazing in terms of quality and the coherency of their theories. It’s like what game theory used to be.
Alt mentions that Bloodraven might've warged the boar that killed King Robert. If you'll recall, Robert killed it with a knife through the eye, and called it a bastard. Making it a one-eyed bastard like Bloodraven. He even jokes that a god sent the boar. "Drove a knife right through his eye" "I killed the bastard, didn't I?" "the gods sent the boar... sent to punish me,." Also in a Clash of Kings Stannis says, "If someone said I had magicked myself into a boar to kill Robert, likely they would believe that as well." -
decoderma that is a really good point, never made that connection before
WOW
James Gravil The three Frey pies.
James Gravil It was a joke.
A Warg is a specific type of skinchanger that controls a wolf, and ONLY skinchanging into a wolf is called warging
turns out his secret plan was to become King of the Six Kingdoms.
Lmai
"bran will be important in the war against the white walkers"
@@antoniomarino9444 Yeah, he was real important alright. Did absolutely fuck all, said nothing and hid next to a tree protected by the almighty Theon Grayjoy. WOOOOOO
@@RagingRevine hahah.. exactly.. the series was sooooo rushed they didnt have the time to even think to justify the scenes they were shooting
A 3 eyed raven being the king of Westeros seems fine to me...i think reign under 3 eyed raven will be most peaceful one
I swear if George RR Martin lived 2000 years ago he would have created a religion.
That's.... a valid, and scary thought. Tells you too much about religions.
Why? He wouldn't have created a TV show 2000 years ago and as far as we know he's no conjurer of tricks.
he's already created a few :p
I’ve already buried a time capsule in my yard with the box set of season 1-7 for future generations to know what happened......wait...I’m not digging another hole.
@alexander brown and @james danby you two should hang out man
This is way more interesting and more well thought out than what actually happens in the show.
Even the bad lame theories are better. 🙄
That’s why I’m constantly watching all of Alt X videos. Because his theories and explanation are much better than what D&D did to the show
i totally agree, but imagine if EVERYTHING in the books happened in the show, it would have to be ten times longer! not that i would complain, of course :D
@@ecMonify and cost a lot of money but also more profit.... I think its more to do with actor maintenance like their contracts and that... Maybe they will do spin offs later
Just a reminder that The Show is not The Books.
You could probably account for Brandon's crippleness to the Bloodraven as well. He was chasing a bird when he went by that window.. and seeing how Euron turned, Bloodraven must have thought it safer to have the boy be crippled before the dream, so he doesn't get adventurous.
That's a great theory. Actually, the age of the three-eyed raven is completely irrelevant if he's capable of time travel and influencing events from the past. He could've been stuck in that tree for 1 year or a 100 years, doesn't change a thing. He's truly horrifying. The show got everything so wrong. I wonder if GRRM regrets doing the show. It kinda destroyed his legacy and created a huge negative perception of ASOIF.
@@Emajenus weirdly i think the opposite, in my country the outright rage against the series finale made the books sellout in every major book selling chain, because the people (like me) who didn't want to read the books were ahem, big mad about how it ended It was such a huge NO HOW DOES IT ACTUALLY END WTF that he became immensely popular, highlighting how bad the series was in the meantime
@@Emajenus and don't forget that possible jojen paste 🤢🤢 just sick
@@kikima258 meh, i wouldn't be surprised if that isn't true and there are other ways to absorb blood power. But it actually seems like it is true, and could be forcing Bran to see the dark side like Sansa and Arya. And it would be interesting to see how the stark children escape the dark as all of the (major ones) are currently less powerful than the people around them. Also all of them kinda signed up for this willingly.
LMAO
Now that Bloodraven is king of the 6 kingdoms, can we all agree that (at least in the TV show) he is the real Villain having manipulated everything to make himself King.
That has been along the lines of what I was thinking. I didn't know as much about Bloodraven, but just about the 3ER/3EC being an extension of the Children of the Forest - so I had thought they were manipulating events through Bran. But now that I know all of this back story, it's even more compelling that Bloodraven is manipulating. But for good or for ill? I guess in GOT it's never cut and dry. Fascinating. Just makes me want to read all of the book all the more.
But the problem is that the writers are selling this storyline to us as _positive_ and I've seen quite a number of viewers who buy it and who say he'll be a great king lol.
@@gavomorg762 thank you!
@@kristythomas2919 the fact that he can literally see anything past/present/some future is an indicator
but the guy died,he wasnt king
The makers of season 8 should be sent to the wall for treason 😠
nah send em to Valyria
Rik Jones BURN THEM ALL!!!
-only the writers They shall take no wives, father no children.
@@dahkteromar749 Nah. They should be led to the Lands of Always Winter, stripped naked and tied to rocks and left for the animals.
@@dahkteromar749 They shall write no scripts, receive no paychecks.
"Now Bloodraven, don't go killing that guy." "Dude...I won't...**Lifts bow**"
This is way more interesting and more well thought out than what actually happens in the show.
So basically, everytime a Targaryen and a Stark bang and make a kid, you’re gonna get some serious shit to follow ...
Hate to be that guy... but Bloodraven's mother was a Blackwood, not a Stark. So a Targaryen and a Northern.
@@jamessloven2204 was she not half stark? Am I misremembering?
@@PrinceIsot Blackwoods and Starks have blood of the First Men!
@@PedroLucas-mg5je That doesn't matter. Blackwoods are a riverland house pledged to Riverrun. Not every smart guy has to be a Stark. So don't try
@@samudragupta4395 how doesnt matter still they have magic as other norther first men descendants
"Brynden sent these Direwolf pups to keep an eye on the Starks Me: Ok... "He might have sent the boar that killed King Robert." Me: Ok... "and that bear Tormund F*cked" Me: Yes....wait WHAT?!
YES
*YES*
*_YES_*
Me reading the 4 comments above: Why is this a JoJo meme?
@@svagglaorde4387 it is I Dioooo
"Went off for a ciggy and never came back." That cracked me up 🤣
Tell him to say hi to my dad, lol.
'Sit in chair underneath the Weirwood tree, wait for Night King to slowly mince his way toward me, then get ninja sister to give him such a stabbing' Easy secret plan really.
😂😆🤣 Perfect!
I feel like they could have just done this in Bloodraven’s cave but sub in Meera for Arya and save us all the trouble
Jonny Baynham , what a joke it was the season 8....Your comment made my evening 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think NK will actually be killed that way
This just makes me really appreciate how much time George RR Martin spent creating this intertwined history of the world. Everything's so detailed, that it doesn't feel like he just made a timeline with an ancient past, but created stories within each generation tied them together.
How in the HELL did you put all this together? Amazing.
Kevin Heintz He is absolutely FUCKING AMAZING!!! Is he not?????
yeah pretty amazing, pretty amazing how a guy, doing NOTHING else but talk about a show, make this amount of cash, pretty fair right? hes amazing right? such a guy... i wish i could be like him... a blood sucker brainless individual
Lmao wtf why are you even here? Your envy is toxic @@ninjawizard7021
Never knowing the warmth of a woman means having tons of free time.
@@ninjawizard7021 you can, just start making in depth, well made tv / book theories. It's that easy!
*"All crows are liars"* - Old Nan to Bran after he had the flying dream.
Meanwhile in Essos, Summer King awakened and creating dry spell and drought together with his summer zombies.
There's this army of just random zombies in floral shirts and khakis, marching holding beach balls and floaties and ice cream.
Everyone:h... Bran:I Know.
Nawaf ☠️😂
Jon Snow: But I... Bran: And you know nothing, Jon Snow.
No one: Bran: ⚪️👄⚪️ 🦽
@@forksssss8483 LMFAO
@@forksssss8483 💀
One of the other cool things about Dunk and Egg is you get to see Jaime's great-grandma hook up with Brienne's great-grandpa. It's better than it sounds. Free audiobook here! www.audible.com/asx
Alt Shift X I had never think about that!
Alt Shift X Do they, though? That remains the question still. I say we need an Alt Shift X video on that :D
Then it's all set up😂😂😉😉
The level of detail you put into these videos, Jesus If I look away for a second I've missed a thousand things. You are truly talented and I love the amount of work you put into these, please keep it up until the end!
So will Jaime be cleansed of his obsession for Cersei (which seems really likely with the events unfolding right now) to find happiness with Brienne, who has very similar values regarding honour and dignity to Jaime.
Anyone noticed that Bloodraven's time as Lord Commander lasted 13 years? 239-252. He mimicked the night's king archetype as well. He killed a brother he possibly loved (one brother he did love) and probably the Night's King did as well at some point.
I believe the story with the Night’s King revolves around his brother killing him actually, it’s a story Old Nan tells Bran about how the Night’s King could have been a Stark and was killed by his brother the Stark King she implies that the Night’s King’s name could have even been Bran. The records of the Night’s King were destroyed so that adds credence to the story.
it happened the other way around bro...!! though 13 years is the same number of years both of them ruled as king/lord commander...!!
watching this after Season 8 episode 3 is so fun....
Yup lol
its painful.
tbh the show is hard to take seriously at this point. they ignore so much.
theatre of dogs “after all the books are finished” hahahah nice one
@theatre of dogs a Game of Thrones BROTHERHOOD the same thing happened with FMA
bloodraven is the coolest nickname in the whole show
Kinda edgy tho
diablo 2 act 1 says hi
I don't think they call him bloodraven on the show do they?
Bloodraven and “the mountain”
@@noc_yt i dont think they do
I would love to see Mads Mikkelsen as Bloodravel in a series of prequels
perfect casting
That would be amazing.
I just want Mads to play SOME character
He certainly has experience playing characters with a fucked up left eye.
Did you love the Altshift X vides since You were a boy Petyr?
3 eyed raven's secret plan is to sit on the Iron Throne all along
There no iron throne now ....
This was so professional and well read. Then you dropped the 'went out for a ciggy' and the Australian in you shone through the professionalism! Hahah gold love the video
Oh how I miss these videos.
+BanditRants nice vids on ur channel
same
Sometimes I enjoy watching these more than the actual show.
Ah me too, I found his channel sometime after S7 binge watched and was just as sad for the break he took as I was for the show's break.
Its so complex that even the author doesnt know how it ends
it's not about complexity, but more about a choice, see lord of the ring as super complex mythologie, but tolkien knew what it was leading to. it's the choice he made, also how do you know that the autor of GoT doesn't know exactly where he's going. (it might be true)
@@lucasbortoluzzi9369 i think that asoiaf is more complexe simply because of the more 3 dimentional characters even the others are not "eivil" but i agree with the choice part grrm was more intrested in the world building than actually ending the story
@@kikima258 it was not the same intention neither the same period, tolkien have a very religious approach with a morality, while got is more about chaotic reltionships that leads to many turnarounds. that's kinda what George RR martins reproach to the lord of the ring. it's wasn't chaotic and cruel enough for him. in the lord of the ring the complexity is more in the maps, languages, family trees etc. and if you reed stories that happens before the lord of the ring, there's often more complexity in the behavior of elves that are split in half between their pride and love for the silmaril and their love for the valars etc. you find the same kind of complexicity with numenor lineage. while got complexity is a lot more about politics. i really think that's directly linked to the period
@@lucasbortoluzzi9369 the lord of the rings is my all time favorite book but i'm gonna be honest asoiaf charachters are more compeling and more complexe it's not the politics it's the charachters
@@lucasbortoluzzi9369 what was complex about LOTR? It was obvious the kind would have defeated the evil, that's the whole point of the story. ASOIAF is different. There are no kinds and evils, there are 10 plots as I've counted now, so it might just be true that even now the author may have no absolute idea how the show will end, because it's incredibly difficult to finish something like this so that all your fans would stay satisfied. It's not like "Jon comes back, then he unites Dany, Aegon and Cersei to defeat the Night King and bring the peace in Westeros" lmao we don't do that here
*DONT LET NIGHT KING'S DEATH DISTRACT YOU FROM THE FACT THAT THE HOUND HAD HIS NERVOUS BREAKDOWN*
again.
Beric: We need you, Clegane! Sad boi Clegane: FAK AFF
PSD
Lol.... & the red women said that Aria's eyes would turn blue next.... does Aria become the Night King??? Similar to Queen of the Damned movie. ...you kill the Queen...you become the Queen... 😆
@@spicat16 I think you need to rewatch that scene, cause you completely missed it.
Good thing that Bran wasn't busy watching Avenger's Endgame during the battle
Hope Davos survives the series. Love the actor and the character. One of the few "good" characters in the show. Normally I am really into "grey" characters, who aren't really good or bad, but in a show full of those, one person with an intact moral compass is surprisingly a breath of fresh air. Didn't think I'd ever say that.
My favourite characters are grey characters like The Hound, Jaime, Melisandre, fierce characters like Arya or characters who evolve a lot like Sansa, and then there's Davos lol. A few days ago I was thinking: I don't think anyone dislike Davos. He's such a likeable guy, and even though he's normally not my type of character he's still among my favourites!
xxaleenazxx No, Black and White ones are boring and predictable. Go back to school.
Jon Shadewalker Black and White can be interesting, just as grey characters. Depends on how they’re written.
Joshua Fleming Yes, they can be interesting, of course. But my point is, the “boring” or predictable ones are the Black/White ones. If someone is “Black” you know he’s completely bad and you can predict he/she will be doing bad things. A Grey one is not predictable, he/she can surprise you doing bad/good things when you dont expect it.
@@jonshadewalker1105 you don't seem to understand. Grey characters have no clear morale hense either way they end up going wouldn't really be a surprise. Unlike a black or white character doing something slightly different from their charted characteristics
George RR Martin secretly watches these videos and laughs
You may be GRR Martin. How can we trust you?
He does
vaibhav bhatnagar whenever a good theory pops up and George sees it, HE INCORPORATES IT IN THE STORY, BUT THE OPPOSITE HAPPENS
I bet he does :)
vaibhav bhatnagar He's probably lapping it up as influence.
***UPDATE*** Season 8 Episode 3 Did no favors to the last 7+ seasons. The writers basically gave the viewers the finger and answered nothing. There is no story. Period. The build up was for nothing. Zip.
Goddamnit why do you think that the The buildup was for nothing and The Night king is dead?
@@abhishekbhowmik3456 just fuck off
And to think 🤔 that there are some people with a happy face thinking that episode 3 was awesome! 🤦♀️ Seriously 😐... only Hollywood and it’s followers. 🤦♀️
To be fair to the writers, they’ve had no source material for the last few seasons.
@@DJDaisho Game of Thrones is jus the title of one book, the series is called "A Song of Ice and Fire" where the Ice is obviously the Others. They've clearly been the main foe this entire time. Very let down by this half-assed fanservice demise of the primary antagonist.
If you watched the series finale this video is 100x better
I couldn't agree more with you
It was Brynden Rivers behind the grassy knoll, the biped with a big footprint, and the he was also the shining light in Marcellus Wallace's briefcase.
"went for a ciggy..." still laughing!!
at what mark?:P
Seameus 5:38.
1987AnimeBoy thanks for putting the mark!
thanks buddy
Alex Kalix Ilkr, love when he throws "modernspeak" in his videos
I like to believe that, after learning about Aegon's Song of Ice and Fire and the Long Night Prophecy, in an attempt of stopping it he awakened the powers of Euron (or of someone who took up his body), and started a chain of events that will end up in Euron (the Bloodstone Emperor incarnation) starting the Long Night he tried to avoid in the first place. So, his plan for Bran and John is actually a desperate attempt, guided by guilt, to stop the apocalipse he started.
A than HBO producer said ....no it will be Arya ...because "blue eyes" word, from 5 second in third series ...
I'm still in denial. 😔
"We didn't feel it would've been right for Jon to do it" Then WHY all the stare downs between Jon and the Night King over the seasons?! Why SO MUCH build up between them, only to have NO pay off?
@@BurningFreesias you don't always get what you want, jon wanted that showdown so much but he didnt get it. its more realistic
@@BurningFreesias to make you think it would be him. honestly it wouldn't make sense for him to do it. how could he.....hes not a assassin Arya is. he has all of his generals with him, no way in hell is Jon going to walk up to him and kill him. the Night King made this apparent in the same episode when...instead of fighting Jon he raised a army and walked away. the NIght King had no intention of fighting him, really fighting anyone. it was clear many seasons ago that Arya was going to be the one.
@@rocksfire4390 That's just stupid, Arya has her arc, she trained to get vengeance on people who did wrong to her or her family and she has a list to clear, Jon has his arc which was since the begging to defend and unite everyone against the White Walkers, he's a great swordsman probably as good as Jaime, a great leader and a good man, they build him up until this moment just to have Arya steal the kill because "it's unexpected", nonsense that throws GRRM lore thru the window, at least now I'm more hyped for the book since the show fucking stupidity is clear
They often portray thin characters as archers. In reality though size and strength are most important with the bow. Power depends on how hard you can pull back and greater size means greater draw length and therefore higher arrow speed. A faster heavier arrow not only has more power but also greater accuracy. English longbowmen were usually the tallest and most muscular people in the kingdom.
While you are part right you are also part wrong. Long lanky frames are better than shorter muscular frames for drawing the string. Skinny frame doesn't automatically mean weakness.
@@Blackhawk211 he's right your nitpicking get a life bro
@@Blackhawk211 It does. Muscles take up a certain amount of volume so to get more strength you need more muscles. Though there is more to athetlic performance than just raw strength. The number of blood vessels is important for endurance and skill plays a big role. But with archery it's raw strength that's the most important. Also if the choice is between a long lanky person and a short strong one the short and strong one is better. Since a shorter bow can be drawn faster. That and also for archers speed and agility doesn't matter since they are not supposed to directly face their opponent. With melee soldiers agility matters a lot for sneaking in blows, deflecting them and moving around the battlefield. If he tried Gregor Claygane would have been one of the greatest archers Westeros had ever seen.
@@MrMarinus18 I said skinny frame not lack of muscles entirely You can have a slim frame whilst still having muscles
@@Blackhawk211 Muscles take up space.
You're definitely my favorite GoT theorist by far. Even though you don't have the budget to have 40+ min edited video to put out each week like the bigger channels I love the way you explain the theories and bring the books and show together. Thanks man
awesomeisthename22 Would recommended Preston Jacobs not that I don’t enjoy asx
@@alastairbond7104 I think Preston has contributed more to the community than anyone, and he's the only theorist I know who actually has a pretty good thematic grasp of not just asoiaf, but the entirety of grrm's work. Plus, Preston actually comes up with his theories, as opposed to asx, who takes material from westeros.org and the asoiaf subreddit; I'm not complaining, asx never claims that he came up with the theories he presents.
This one video was better than the entire tv series, you have inspired me to actually read the books. Thank you so much.
The books are genuinely really good, the show sucked (unfortunately, great casting and acting for the most part).
Apparently nothing at all...
I came here to say this lmao
Stupid sexy Flanders!
xD fucking disappointing
Right. Three eyed raven was a waste of time.
Bran is the three eye raven and is the true villain! He has been playing chess! This theory is on point with some of its theory! Do we really think the last 3 episodes is about fighting Cersei for the throne!
13:10 I wasn't looking at the screen and thought you said "That bear TOMMEN fucked." Had to frantically rewind.
wamon are stoopit
It’s a lot more complicated than that. Einstein had a brain volume that was slightly lower than average. The male brain mass volume deteriorates after age 40, where as a on average the female brain shows little deterioration until much later in life. Women are also or more likely to be better multitaskers, which makes some evolutionary sense in that women had to take care of a multitude of things from, raising the kids, gathering certain types of food, cooking, cleaning, making clothes, doing repairs, dealing with tribal politics, and healing/medical concerns. Where as most of the men normally just needed to worry about hunting, village defense, and their masculinity. You could use the Encephalization Quotient. Brain volume v. Body mass. But that shows that women have about the same, if not slightly higher than average, EQ when compared to men. It also shows that dolphins and some whales have a larger comparative EQ to humans. At best, the brain volume issue might be a general predictor of an individual’s intelligence potential within there own species, if you use the EQ method and factor in a whole lot of other variables. At worse, it’s been a tool used to justify racial and gender superiority. In the end, it really comes down to brain capacity, complexity and density within certain regions of the brain v. age, genetic, education, experience and environmental factors of any given individual as to that individual’s intellectual potential or aptitude towards certain skill sets and reasoning, as opposed to that of their actual overall intelligence only being based on that individual’s brain volume, regardless of gender or ethnicity. So no, a woman’s brain volume on average is near irrelevant as to the way that you’re using it. And no, sorry but, “wamon ain’t stoopid”. Well, maybe just maybe, women are more complicated than men and some of us men can’t handle that. In which case it might be time for society to rethink the patriarchal system, because too many of us men seem to be either regressing or stagnating rather than evolving.
Get the fuck outta here with that feminist bs. wamon are stoopit and they are only good for fucking, PERIOD (there is even a wamon joke for you there)
+Emma J. Quinn Hey, its better than being a vaginahead
well said
Not only did Brynden send Tormund's she-bear, I think he secretly WAS the she-bear... I mean, it must get lonely in that tree!
That's brilliant. XD
Abomination!
Eh, everything that is fun SOMEONE considers an abomination. ;)
Melinda Suzanne I don’t think ASoIF is considered a abomination.
that's definitely a theory I can get behind!! Sounds more realistic than for example time traveling fetus.
I think the 3 eyed raven is the villain. The Night King only crossed the wall to go after the 3 eyed raven. It seemed very personal and there is something GOT is covering up.
@@GGxKiwi Because Bran is the new three-eyed raven. Even Bran says that he is not Bran.
Jason Agron fuckin bullshit...
James Dolan So the NK killing millions and raising them as zombies is the good guy, and Bran helping pplto stay alive is the bad one ? Huh?
@@GGxKiwi a simple tv show. this aint fucking blues clues my guy where everything is straight foward. also fuck joe, steve was better.
6 seasons and so many sacrified character for absolutly nothing ! RIP Hodor
either quiet before the real storm, or a dud...
Turns out it's a dud
[SPOILERS] 8:15 also in Samwell III, ASOS at the end of the chapter there is a raven that helps Sam and Gilly to escape from a group of wights, here an excerpt: He crept to the door. The air was so cold that it hurt to breathe, but such a fine sweet hurt. He ducked from the longhall. "Gilly?" he called. "Gilly, I killed it. Gil-" She stood with her back against the weirwood, the boy in her arms. The wights were all around her. There were a dozen of them, a score, more . . . some had been wildlings once, and still wore skins and hides . . . bot more had been his brothers. Sam saw Lark the Sisterman, Softfoot, Ryles. The wen on Chett's neck was black, his boils covered with a thin film ice. And that one looked like Hake, though it was hard to know for certain with half his head missing. They had torn the poor garron apart, and were pulling out her entrails with dripping red hands. Pale steam rose from her belly. Same made a whimpery sound. "It's not fair . . ." _"Fair."_ The raven landed on his shoulder. _"Fair, far, fear."_ It flapped its wings, and screamed along with Gilly. The wights were almost on her. He heard the dark red leaves of the weirwood rustling, whispering to one another in a tongue he did not know. The starlight itself seemed to stir, and all around them the trees groaned and cracked. Sam Tarly turned the colour of curdled milk, and his eyes went wide as plates. _Ravens!_ They were in the weirwood, hundreds of them, thousands, perched on the bone-white branches, peering between the leaves. He saw their beaks open as they screamed, saw them spread their black wings. Shrieking, flapping, they descended on the wights in angry clouds. They swarmed round Chett's face and pecked at his blñue eyes, they covered the Sisterman like flies, they plucked gobbets from inside Hake's shattered head. There were so many that when Sam looked up, he could not see the moon. _"Go,"_ said the bird on his shoulder. _"Go, go, go."_
This was mentioned around the 13 minute mark real quick in a flash of the scene and quote from same passage
A 20m Alt Shift X video? I'm not ready to watch quite yet, I need to be in the bathtub with candles and some wine first.
Get in the damn tub. Is worth it
Max Bassanini Wine as red as Bloodraven's eye, I hope
same i had to take a bath and roll a blunt in preparation
Me too
You mean a blood bath. Keeps your skin young.
I love how professional, well thought out and proper your videos are ..... and then just pepperd with some aussie banter. Its really well done
It’s strange that the Mad King is Jon’s grandfather.
The Mad King is father and uncle to Jon's auntie gf.
His grandfather killed his other grandfather.
@@nunyabiznes33 that’s targaryean bloodlines for ya in a nutshell lol
Don’t know if this has been commented already but in the show Old Nan says "Don't listen to it. Crows are all liars." There seem to be some theories on reddit about this possibly being foreshaddowing for future deception. I haven’t read the books so learning the three eyed raven is called the three eyed crow made that little thought click so much more.
That's fucking sick m8 pretty fun to wonder about
@@claudiotheobaldo3630 ye ye righto m8 righto - notha cuppa?
Hence, what would be the biggest lie? "The past is already written, the ink is dry."
I've found a cool theory on how its going to end, its a theory but i think its a 100% right... So i guess.... !!!SPOILER WARNING!!!
Damn that was a good video (checks timecode). There's another FIFTEEN goddamn minutes!?
Exactly. This has so much quality content that other people would take 3-4 videos to get through it.
I LOVE your editing style. The way everything flows so naturally makes things so much easier to keep up with
You are without a doubt, a human Game Of Thrones Encyclopedia!!
Anyone hear about the theory that Hot Pie is Azor Ahai?
It rhymes at the very least!
Nah, Lommy my dude
Ridiculous, it's obviously Ser Pounce
Guys come on. It was always Young Griff
Come on. We all know that Jeyne Heddle is Azor Ahai.
Is it a coincidence that there was another Reed present at the Tower of Joy, ensuring Jon's safe return to the north?
EvanSol919 yes there is Many writers profess that quite a few things that readers notice is a happy coincidence
Probably was a coincidence. Howland was one of Ned’s best and most loyal bannerman. It would make sense Ned would only bring men he could trust.
Man... I am so sorry the show has let you down! This video was more interesting that s08!
Council:Don't kill the Blackfyre. Bloodraven:'Kay. *Kills Blackfyre at once* Bloodraven:I have done it,arrest me
Bran didn't sign up to become a tree boy, he signed up to become a tree BOI
Word up yo
Dude, if he's good with a longbow then he is Damn strong. A big misconception thanks to fantasy and historical games and films. Bowmen had to be strong, and Brynden would be strong af.
Awesome point, that I should have caught. I practice archery with one of my daughters and she mentioned this too. Basically, I'm 6'3 230lbs and shoot a 70lb compound. I can practice comfortably for half an hour. Old full size longbows had draw weights between 90 and 120lbs with no cams. If he was a bowman he'd have been tremendously strong.
Strength in game of thrones is crazy. Robert b was strong enough to wield a two handed war hammer with one hand, ned couldn't lift it with both
Still pussy-ass bitches who attacked from afar.
@Shirley Timple Sounds like you need an arrow up the butt to make you feel like a Woman again ;)
Considering most bows back then were a 200lb. draw weight MINIMUM, yeah I would say he would be pretty dang strong.
Just watched the last episode, and could not stop thinking watching this video like months ago. Your analysis is so well thought that it feels like Bloodraven (Brynden Rivers) got what he really wanted by sitting on the Iron Throne at the end of the series. a small example of his master plan is that he is the one who tells Jon Snow, and Sansa (Arya) that he is a Targaryen leading to Dany and Jon off the table for Queen (murdered by Jon) or King (not accepted by the people because of killing Daynerys) at the end. This is an extremely smart move, something that even in your video isn't mentioned since it's so unexpected!! i mean even Martin didnt originally think that Bloodraven is the guy, he should really consider making this theory a reality.
Loved the Bene Gesserit reference. Bloodraven's teaching to Bran?: I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Martin is too heavily into Easter Eggs
The Quaithe extended-life/preserved-beauty thing is interesting because Quaithe's mask has the same symbolism that we are with Melesandre's necklace (this pattern is echoed with other red priests/priestesses as well)
Radcaster you could easily argue that thats just the Red Priest fashion or fashion of Ashai tho.
Stephen Grant Yeah very true, probably insignificant.
Aren't they both from Asshai? Melisandre and Quaithe.
Not in the books. She wears a solid wooden mask.
“Bran doesn’t want to be a tree boi” lmaooo
How could so much depth shown in all your videos get reduced to what we was given in the show 😬 years later and I still can't begin to rewatch!
AM I the only one who think who writes these stuff? in such detail of these fictional characters...the creativity is unbeleivable
HBO should hire this guy. Amazing!
Pablo Epíscopo to do what exactly
@@Dasanie don't be jealous.
Pablo Epíscopo jealous of what? All I asked is what they should hire him for?
@@Dasanie yeah to do what?
Dr. Siracha I guess fan theories entitle you with a job on the show now apparently
Not gonna lie, my opinions on incest might have wavered if I was half brother to Shiera Seastar
Yep. Mine too.
wtf
LOL
@@theworldoverheavan560 this guy is saying wtf but subliminal he practices incest everyday.
Mihir Kumar lmao
Well, now we know that there was no plan, no money, no Thaiti and three-eyed raven was useless. Great writing HBO.
d j I don’t think you grasp just how extensive the lore is and how impractical it would be to incorporate into a 10 episode or less per season show. The lore and show are two different things.
except he gave her the dagger in the same spot of the kill, he made the plan of being bait, and he was distracting the night king by making him believe he finally got what he wants
@@munjiful Sounds.. weak doesn't it? seven seasons of build-up and three eye legend and shit, even Azor Ahai with Jon Snow and in the end it's Arya
d j didn't know the show was over already.....oh wait it's not so stop assuming and shut up and wait for it to be over.
Pierre Cano azor ahai isnt a focus of the show that much, just something mellisandre seems obsessed with. Maybe you think it is because the community keeps trying to guess about it so much, but in the shows its such a background thing not so much a huge reveal sort of thing. I dont think we even heard the full prophecy on the show at all. The books & the show are two different stories now because grrm didn’t finish in time. Dont think of it as your story ruined, you’ll still get it in the books. As for the tv story, i love that they made it Arya, it was visually pretty badass, and honestly I don’t think its fair to think Arya trained with assassins and on her own and went through that huge journey just for her big thing to be to kill an old man with his guard down (show version obvs)
After watching this and not having finished the books, Bloodraven comes off as a total Odin reference, which I somehow didn't realize until now. Odin has his two crows, Huginn and Muginn, who scour the worlds finding secrets for him. Odin also sacrifices his eye in exchange for magic, and is said to see more with his one than he ever did with two. He also sees a prophecy for Ragnarok and tries to prevent it, but ends up setting up the dominoes for his own downfall. Euron seems like he's in a similar role to the wolf, Fenrir, the last thing Odin can see is his own death. Devoured by a great wolf. When it's revealed Loki has three monster children the gods take them back with them and Odin decides their fates. For the wolf child, Fenrir, Odin and the rest of the gods trick Fenrir and bind him with an unbreakable chain. Fenrir tells Odin that he could have been a friend to the gods, but now harbors hate towards them. Eventually when Fenrir breaks loose during Ragnarok, he devours the Sun and Moon as well Odin. This is before being slain by Odin's son, the god of vengeance, Vidarr. I definitely get similar vibes from your summary of Bloodraven to Odin with his whole "long-game stop the apocalypse" thing.
VERY well put together video 👍 No nonsense, waffle or filler. Lots of pictures and excerpts. Fantastic!
You're the reason I learned to read
LOL!
Bloodraven gotta be one of the coolest names in the whole a song of ice and fire series.
One of the coolest characters. Wish someone would have covered it on screen!
17:05 - the reference to 'the bone of a thousand dreamers' matches the description of Bloodraven's cave earlier, having a thousand bones in it. I might have to rewatch the beginning to check the details.
They should do a prequel, and do it right.
Already happening, 4 new shows have been confirmed by hbo
@@benh8457 Really, that's awesome! I'm buying the books.
Ben Hubble LETS GOOO
Ben Hubble after what they did on Sunday, I can’t trust D&D to do well So I’m out.
I heard something about a prequel "The Long Night" Why the fuck would anyone want to watch that now?
This is one of your best video’s. Excellent analysis of Bloodraven’s storyline incorporating both the ASOIAF books and the GOT television show. Your unique video’s are a perfect example of quality vs. quantity. Keep up the good work and continually raising the bar for all others to follow. And believe me, this analysis of yours will be picked-up and elaborated on, by the various ASOIAF/GOT communities out there. With probably and unfortunately, no credit going to you. Cheers…
Great story telling ! I really thank you for crediting the artists.
This video is an example how the information of the books may be analyzed and how you may create at least not bad ending for the TV show. Everything seems logical and connected. The three main plots (rivalry between Starks and Lannisters, Targaryen rise, King of the Night) should have climaxed probably in the battle of light and darkness (including mystical and magical powers). Thank you for the video. Well done and very interesting.
True
Brynden Rivers could be a great main character for a prequel series. Lots of untreaded ground to uncover for HBO.
This is one of my favorite KZhead channels. Such amazing detailed content. Thank you for putting so much time and effort into your videos. Keep up the good work!
THE FINAL EPISODE MAKES SENSE NOW. THANK YOU.
D&D: lol wft is this nerdy shit? Just have Arya kill the bad guy and finish up here. Time for vacations!
Azor Ahai is such a legend in the GoT universe that I can't help but be reminded of Avatar: The Last Airbender. Maybe this character and maybe some of his underlings are really just reincarnations of previous entities. Maybe John Snow is just the new Azor Ahai.
Brynden is Chaotic Good, best way to put it.
Chaotic Neutral Maybe, Since He Done A Lot Of Bad Shit
@@rinokumura7371 Mostly good. Everything he did in life was to protect his family and the kingdoms.
3 Eyed Raven is evil AF. He's the real villain IMO. Been using everybody to serve his purpose. They're like chess pieces to him. He wants Jon to fight Dany so they wipe each other out. Then it's easy pickings after it's over.
No no, he wants them to fight to create Azor Ahai. I almost think it was a bet between the 3 eyed raven and his lover/sister. That is why they are each on one continent and their actions are separate and almost conflict with each other. A Song of Ice and Fire, Ice being Jon Snow and Fire being Daneyrs. Neither is evil or good, they are only the ingredients to create Azor Ahai. However in the tv series they made Daneyrs go full bad guy, and shat the bed with the NK (which should have spread more throughout Westeros, and required greater combinations of forces + Euron Greyjoys collection of magic to actually defeat.) Imagine having to forcefully work with Euron to kill the NK after losing half of Westeros. It would have been much more epic. The tv series seems to be going "we are going classic, hero saves the day", and "other hero turn anti-hero that the real hero needs to stop" as the twist. I hope there is some mention in the final episode of Jon Snow being Azor Ahai. This is my theory.
vikingjedi This is 100% correct
Sometimes i forget how obscenely well written a song of ice and fire is (read the books quite some time ago)... I come here from time to time to remember that waiting this long for a book will probably be worth it
So when we getting a Brynden Rivers prequel trilogy. I’d settle for a Hodor stand alone film.
Hodor Cinematic Universe or nothing
Hodor? Hodor.
Something that gives me the shivers about Bloodraven is that his one red eye is described in a similar manner to the eyes of Melisandre and Lady Stoneheart. For all of them their eyes are like the most alive and powerful part of them at first glance. Catelyn literally looks dead now, but her eyes are described as powerful, red, kind of glowing and terrifying, very similar to Bloodraven. Could there be some connection between the powers of the Lord of Light and the powers of the old gods, despite Melisandre viewing the old gods as non-existent (when Bloodraven and the children of the forest explain otherwise), and their servants such as Bloodraven and Bran as servants of the Great Other? She's been known to misinterpret her visions. Also, through the show it is suggested that Melisandre is actually an old crone disguised by her glamour, with her ruby throat necklace thing. Perhaps the ruby does actually keep her young, not just change her appearance. When Jon spars with Mance, thinking its Rattleshirt, he notes that Rattleshirt is faster than he ought to be. We later realise it's because it isn't Rattleshirt. So Melisandre if she's just using a glamour should be as feeble as an old woman right? But she's not, so maybe she's using something else. Perhaps she is keeping herself young and an effect is the red eyes, similar to Bloodraven, who never technically died, just like her, but became akin somewhat to a wight just like Lady Stoneheart. And the wights of the Others have eyes described in a similar manner, just blue. Perhaps that could indicate the difference in the beings behind such powers. It will be very interesting to see what happens if Jon is resurrected in the books too. I doubt it will be like the show. He will be changed, physically and mentally. The question is how much? Lady Stoneheart seems to be so fucked up physically because she was rotting in a river for days, as for mentally, the time may have done it, but also she was resurrected using the life of Berick, who'd been a shadow of himself after six resurrections, struggling to remember his former life, and if I remember right, he didn't eat or sleep, just like Coldhands. The question is, if Melisandre resurrects Jon, how well is she going to do it? Is Jon going to be obviously dead like Catelyn? Or is he going to appear alive like Berick, but not truly be so? Is his death, the betrayal of it and all his years of pent up anger he's finally allowed to unleash on the Boltons and Lannisters (as death frees him from his oath) going to turn him into a monster? Will he still be able to Warg with ghost? That one is very important in my opinion. That will be another link between the old gods and R'hollor, as Brydnen despite his condition seems to still be able to skinchange. And also, will he be able to warg into Viserion?
I keep feeling like Bran was body snatched by BloodRaven under the tree cave, then eventually becoming king BloodRaven the Broken
lol, by having his little assassin sister materialize out of thin air to take the night king down and his massive amount of white walkers in just 1 stabby action.
It's a good thing Arya didn't ask Jaqen H'ghar to kill the Night King, because then there wouldn't have been any dramatic showdown at Winterfell.
So Bloodraven is a son of ice and fire like Jon Snow ? Plus bloodraven looks like Ghost, Albino with red eyes
Ice and Fire like black and white, north and south, duality between two opposition sides? in my opinion if Rhaegar had a dragon it be a white dragon with red eyes, like ghost and bloodraven?
soyon manlai makes sens
whats your opinion if some fans made an AU fan animation episode where Rhaegar got a white silver dragon with red eyes, and i bet his name be specter just like ghost? Plus i bet Brandon would have been a better leader then ned, ned may joining the second sons like tyrion did be ironic, they are second born sons they joined the second sons?
soyon manlai Hell Yeah I would watch 😂
This just sold me the Jon is Azor Ahi. I no longer have doubts on that
Man, I wish I'd known about this channel back when this released D: your excellent analysis and explination of the theory have raised so many excited questions for me. Oh well, I'll just watch more videos, you are so thorough I'm sure you'll probably answer my questions there :D
Although the show didn't go this deep into Bloodraven's history it does in retrospect make the end a bit more disturbing..........and less disappointing. Hopefully, Martin will flesh out this idea more whenever we get the last two books.
Your videos are always fascinating & you have the best artwork & graphics to back up your theories! Thanks for your commitment in making these! Keep up the stellar work!
This is a prime example of quality content, great work, in this and all your videos.
And than arya poke night king with a pointy end
I like my theory of when Dany said she would "break the wheel", she didn't realize that meant the 3-eyed Crow driving her insane and that people would be so burnt (pun intended) that they would refuse to be lorded over ever again. Then Bran perma-wargs Drogon ("you will never walk again, but you will fly") and becomes Arya's ride for exploring what's west of Westeros.