Busting movers: Inside the police raid (Marketplace)
Police say these movers quote low, but charge high once they pick up your stuff and hold it ransom for payment. We revisit customers from the last investigation and meet a new customer as she's reunited with her belongings. And wait until you see the dramatic footage of the arrests and our attempt to get answers from company bosses as they're released on bail. As the list of charges grows to the hundreds, we take you inside the bust.
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This is the kind of reporting North America needs.
those theft sure be put on a banned list for life & put behind bars ASAP
Tell that to the Conservative Party of Canada who want to shut it down - as it dares tell the truth about them too.
Canada is in North America.
Thank heaven for men like this exposing scammers and helping people..
These people should be imprisoned.This is horrible.
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@@domoetker3967 Bigot.
Deportation
@@Zaza-Xoxo Sorry for the truth, but truth is truth
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Great job Marketplace. Truly heroes!
These scammers will scam their very own family.
This has been going on for decades. It is about time
You notice the people always tend to be Middle Eastern? I've seen these things over and over on the news and other vids, and the scammers all too often come from one particular area it seems....
@@jameslopez5652 it happened to me 30 years ago. They were Russian.
@@TPspunk Yep. That mafia group definitely has their hand in that stuff. They have died down quite a bit though compared to when we were younger lol.
@@jameslopez5652 their Turkish mate. As Turkish Canadian I agree this is unacceptable and they should Be sent be to turkey. But what you’re getting at is like asking “you ever notice of majority of drugs that flood our streets come from Mexico and South America? Is every Mexican a thug?
Thats why our family moves things to a new house ourselves.
Unfortunately services like this are perfect scams to take advantage of the disabled or elderly. Fr tho, if they held my loved ones ashes as random idk what id do. I just hope those people get compensated and their items back.
Me too. I haven't moved since 93, and would hate to. But, I don't want strangers handling my stuff. Things are going missing. "My ol lady would love this" situation. Have you noticed a common theme, or Common Denominator?
I'm finding more and more that in Canada, to not be taken advantage of you have to do everything for yourself.
As the owner of a moving company, it hurts my heart to hear that people really do this. I have heard of it but seeing it just makes me sad..
I'm a owner myself we never do this to our customers. I've been around long enough to hear horror stories though. Shameful
I’m so happy this thief’s are getting what they deserve
agreed!
32 years in the buisness nice to see companies being caught
Amen.
Those two guys do look quite shady, maybe Eastern European, I'm guessing.
@@Birdylockso Actually could be Muslims though from Turkey especially the business partner Ozturk. I am a practicing Muslim myself but I don't like criminals who con and scam people. It's a punishable act of stealing by force. Wonder if they would have done it in middle east countries or Turkey where the strict laws would actually fine them and convict them for longer periods of jail sentences. Western countries are a bit liberal in imparting Justice which gives crooks and scamsters like these with loopholes in the law for even such simple open and shut cases. I am from India BTW.
@@SIGMA_CENTRAL_IKON That's a good point. People in the West have been in a stable and prosperous, (therefore more law-abiding), culture for many decades. With the globalization and refugees all over, more cunning immigrants, (who had to be cunning to survive home country's dog-eat-dog world), could easily take advantage of the docile not-so-street-smart locals. It's like invading species of fish introduced to a pond and dominate the ecosystem. It is no wonder the Far-right group and nationalism are rising around Europe now. Their way of life is changed by the mass immigration.
@@Birdylockso Well, I wouldn't support the far right fascist extremists or the extremists leftists. I prefer to be at the center of truth between both. You might have noted that these kind of petty crimes can be committed by anyone. My point was first to identify these unscrupulous dishonest scheming goons who hold innocent people at ransom of their rightfully owned property and then con them mercilessly. Second point was to make all observe that when you come from a country where laws against such conning and petty thefty crimes are strict, they shouldn't be doing it in another country where they've migrated legally. I myself am an Australian permanent resident but I never pick sides based on race creed caste religion and nationality. We are all migrated people and there are those who are indigenous people. ALL MUST BE RESPECTED AND TREATED EQUALLY. I believe this is what the both Canadian and Australian constitutions preach us as equal laws. I for myself found good and bad people amongst all communities. And sadly that includes my family as well. Very unfortunate but it's a brutal truth most people face nowadays. Hope you are getting my point here. 👍
This is why word of mouth is the advertising I use when hiring any contractor.
I’m so glad you did a part 2 for these shady movers and people got arrested!! Of course when the cop said this is one of the biggest things I’ve been involved in, the cops biggest investigation was shady movers 😂😂😂 ONLY IN CANADA
They just seized 60m in drugs ONLY IN CANADA 😂😂🤡🤡
gotta be bigger than hate speech or misgendering arrests right!?!?
Keep up the good work , these scammers need to be visited by THE TAX MAN!
Marketplace made this happen. Forced police to do something through public pressure. Thank you to Marketplace!! Its nice to see a small win. Really nice.
Hmm yeah but the police now have the blueprint / strategies employed by these companies, so they can easily identify / See it right away. Charge them seize there property, auction it off. etc
Except they'll get bail and do it all again while learning police techniques through disclosure. Charges withdrawn or at most probation... welcome to Canada
@@TheChrisA2009 yhhh at the end of the video, reporter says, the scammers get caught and arrested again, for the same offense! Isn't that just crazy. That's just something else man! My God!
Next time, we should report these things as "hate crime" so they will be acted upon immediately . . . .
They were already investigating and building their case. Police work takes time.
As a packer by profession, I couldn't be happier! Guys like these take advantage of unknowing clients and ruin all the hard work we put into this industry. Marketplace is simply the best! Keep it up guys!
Thanks for what you do! Saved us lots of time on our moves. #ProPackers
Makes me wonder 💭 why folks who start their own moving business are so crooked
packer rofl
I'm glad to see that someone is trying to bring these criminals to justice. This happens a lot here in the USA and most laws here in the United States protect the organized and corporate criminals.
If it's illegal for a landlord to hang onto your belongings then why should movers think it's legal for them ? No one should be allowed to get away with holding your private property for ransom. So glad you did a follow up on this story and we actually see some results ! Hopefully we can enact some kind of civil law to stop this, or to give people recourse, if it should happen to them. Check your "BBB" listings ! (that stands for "Better Business Bureau") if they still have it ! 👍 🇨🇦 ✌️
@@thegreatcanadian8210 LMAO!! The "problem" is that I expected the legal system would offer at least some protection for paying customers from law-breaking scumbag "movers".
@@thegreatcanadian8210 No, it doesn't. A relative of mine couldn't have had a more clear cut case. She paid in full for contents to go from point A to point B, local. Moving company took the full payment, cash, then refused to deliver the property. For months. Further, they did significant damage to her property (that we saw), did significant damage to the building, and stole Amazon packages (not property of my relative) and other items. They refused to deliver the property, refused to respond to us by email or phone, refused to meet with us, refused to respond to a lawyer. The lawyer said it could take at least two years to get to court. IF police had acted, IF the law offered protection, she wouldn't have been left with little more than the clothes on her back. A family "friend" tried to negotiate with the company illegally holding everything, and they demanded tens of thousands of dollars to compensate them for holding everything for many months. The lawyer said to wait till it goes to court; the province did nothing, police did nothing, and local media said it's such a common occurrence, it's not newsworthy. Online reviews of the company show it's a common scam for the company. Zero consequences to the company, devastation for clients who paid in full and have a clear contract.
As an American i love watching your videos so much. You guys really do a fabulous and thorough job on every investigation you do.
They should investigate all politicians on both sides.
@@vincentlee7359 wtf you talkin' about? marketplace researches businesses that take advantage of regular citizens. Why would CBC touch politicians? ask the feds for that.
@@vincentlee7359 It wouldn't be a CBC video without a conservative playing victim.
I’m from the States. I was just laughing at how this is hard core fraud in Canada. Dramatic music. Lol
@@DevinSheaProductions Wait until they watch American greed.
My parents were scammed by a moving company 20 years ago. Thank you marketplace for for exposing these crooks. Extremely important and exceptional reporting. This expose should win some kind of award.
Only took 20 years.
Avoid "No Problem Movers" like the plague. Uses these scams and more.
What happened?
Couldnt Expose these people 20 years ago thats the beauty of todays Technology with respect to crime/ consumer fraud etc.
@@andrewchapman5659 Where's consumer protection? Wild West.
What a joyous turn of events. Great work Marketplace. Sometimes the good guys do prevail.
Sometimes. A lot of times nothing happens
That's why I love watching the CBC Market place. Thank you for exposing the disgusting scammers.
The lawyer . What a hero!
You’ll know you were wrong when you Hire one 😂😂😂😂 One phone calls to 830$ One page sending 1800$ So imaging you living on 903$ partial disability, Wcb bc crippled broken shoulder rotary cuff Than come will delete your comment
In BC, Two Small men with Big Hearts did this to my Mom. The quote was 1200 and they charged 4400, don't ever use that company.
two small men with big wallets, I guess
I worked for burley boys in Nanaimo and I tell ya I quit within two weeks. Total garbage pay, trucks, and staff.
It's sad to see there is scammers like this in our world . Shame on the criminals. Thanks marketplace
Keep listening to the community because you help us a lot. Beautiful job CBC
Good job. Keep these scammers out of business. Confiscate their assets.
You guys are heroes. Thank you for helping vulnerable. You have my respect.
always better to move things yourselves..
Not everyone can.
Only if you are still young, strong ones! How your parents can do that???😂😂😂
Appreciate all of your work to help the innocent! Glad these scum bags were arrested.
They really are bugs. 😂
Think I'm gonna call them & tell them I've got "boxes" in my basement that need to be moved. Once they are inside it's party time just like that movie "Reservoir Dogs" that's how u deal with these scumbags. One body part at a time.
Love what you guys do for the community and country. I hope this gets more funding and coverage as I've been a fan of CBC Marketplace for years, I wish the team the best.
Yes!! We need more coverups for Trudeau and more COVID-19 fear mongering 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@warfarenotwarfair5655 lol exactly
I am so sickened by these people that scam people. I am a locksmith and I hear and have first handedly seen the damage they leave behind. Any type of scamming company needs to be severely prosecuted to show others this is not going to keep happening.
They should! I know someone who got scammed out of $15,000 for getting their house fixed. They got the money, never showed back up and changed their name!
@Katrishia Stanley I like watching "Payback Scammer " , he has a KZhead channel called that, and he busts these phone scammers. He is great!!! This is how more people need to get involved with these low life ignorant pigs. I actually support his channel and it is truly worth every penny.
Good job marketplace for exposing these heinous crooks! I’m speechless after watching what they did to those poor people.
This "price changing" scam also happened to my mother, so I'm very happy to see that the authorities have now begun to pay closer attention to these scams (that seems to be almost systemic) among companies working within the moving industry. Big thanks to Marketplace!
I hope the owners get a year for each person they've ripped off. Why does it take so much to hold a business accountable?
I get so much joy seeing that they have been served on camera, they don't have to take it but they have been legally served.
I love when Justice comes. They are taking advantage of vulnerable and kind people.
You guys are awesome! The type of journalism we need. Next... dentist who perform unwanted and unrequested work.
They already did that. Or do you mean that the Dentists should be arrested?
Worked for 2 small men with big hearts for 15 yrs .... I should have said more... wish I was smarter... I always told the costumers which way was cheaper. I'm trying to start my own moving company now and I intend on being transparent and open in my community. I've seen what my boss has done and i won't be like that. I once had him tell me to shut the doors and drive around the corner till he gets his money .... i told the customer what he was doing is illegal and i didn't move the truck .. I let the customers unload it. It goes on and on. There are good movers and companies out there .. I've worked with them .. do some research, ask around.
Very familiar with that company. They aren't even the worst..
Because it becomes 100% About money, they want to make as much as possible per week and that includes scamming
The owner of that company scammed his old business partner too
This is SOOO Common; People (SCUM) tried something EXACTLY like this with me; the ONLY thing that saved me IS I wouldn't pay them CASH -instead I used a personal cheque WHICH I wrote in the MEMO* section AND on the back a detailed description of what I was paying for! When the hustle started; once my stuff was in their vehicle- I just brought up the fact of of the *note and said "LETS CALL POLICE RIGHT NOW!"...IT THEN GOT DONE..they were ANGRY!
Extremely heartbreaking. 😢 Thank you for exposing these criminals and assisting victims.
Yes I had this happen to me and it was ridiculous amount of money. I had just had surgery because I was injured on my way to my new home so when the movers arrived I was in no position to really fight. I went ahead and paid and I was devastated by the ripoff
I understand the position you were in but you still should have made a police report to put it on record so when you felt better you could have followed it up.. The reason why I said that because you were robbed.
When the guy served them the papers, he should've tried to throw them in the vehicle when the scammers got in, or instead of tossing them on the roof, he should've put them under the windshield wiper. I hope these scumbags get sued right into bankruptcy. No company should ever legally be able to hold "your property", ransom. That's theft in my opinion. They need to be shut down.
A taxi driver tried to do that to me. Give one price then inflate the price when we arrived
@@godsentjesustosetusallfree9859 How? They have a meter running as they drive. Helps if you keep an eye on the meter as well. They can't adjust the machines to a higher price. So how'd it happen?
@@fadetoblond prob a chutia
how come theyre not behind bars?
@@fadetoblond he clearly agreed on a “flat rate” alot of cab drivers do this instead of running the meter….. not sure if that’s actually the case with this guys situation but only thing that makes sense that it could be to me…
I have never once had a move where the price wasn’t either grossly inflated after the fact, there wasn’t at least one item damaged irreparably, or both. I’ve lost faith that the GTA has any honest movers anymore. It needs to be regulated, heavily.
I have never paid anyone to help move me, if it gets lost broke damaged it's all on me.
Why regulated? Establish a price and signature based on a flat price regardless of weight. If they do any funny business, once a contract has been made, you can take them to court. Easy. Regulatory bodies will make moving more expensive. All it takes is actually reading the contract.
@@jesusisc0mings00n3 The average person does not have the time or money to prepare a lawsuit over a bad move or breach of contract - they just want to move on with their lives. That aside, I doubt that our legal system even has the capacity for the sheer number of proceedings that would result if every shady mover in the province had their day in court. The moving companies know this, and have taken full advantage in a variety of ways. At the end of the day, I agree with you - movers need to stick to their contracts. The lack of any sort of oversight in terms of honouring them is precisely why regulation is required.
Relax,GTA is only a game.
you can rent a 10 ton truck and move yourself these days.
I just got scammed too. 16 grand for my move. Damaged my grand piano and two pieces of artwork. They put every box in the wrong rooms on the wrong floor. I'm old and have to carry everything to the right rooms. So depressing.
16 grand?? Where did you move to, the moon?
@@eddym2679 Lol. They packed and moved two places into one. My 12 year old 106 lb goldendoodle was in the process of dying and I wanted to spend his last days caring for him, not packing. 💔.
After watching the original story you guy did, Wife and I carried out hard yards and moved 2 bedroom apt ourselves, yes it was laborious and tiresome but we only paid about $400 NZD,, Thanks for doing the story and these criminals should be held behind the bars, they will change the name of company or some cousin will start the same business and scam more people... !!
A friend of mine is a mover and also competed in the Olympics representing Canada in weightlifting. Not everyone of them are crooks.
Thanks for following up with this story, hope you continue to follow
Crimes like this should warrant a 8 year sentence to start with a $10,000 fine to start. How is the provincial government allowing this, I've used movers in the past and it's always been a flat rate?
Wait, what? This is honestly the first instance I've heard of police in Canada responding to crime like this, wow. It's usually "that's a civil complaint, good luck" and you're shoved out the door.
Movers that have the audacity to do this to unsuspecting, innocent individuals and to hold their possessions hostage is the lowest of the scums... Everything they have should be taken away from them
Our movers robbed us
@@Silencer796 sue nows the time.advise your lawyers about this video
@@Silencer796 Happened to our family in 2020, they kept our stuff for almost 3 months. Knowing we had 6 children, IT WAS HORRIBLE. Not to mention they probably lost of stole 25% of it .
IF THEY DARED TO DO THIS TO ME, I MOST DEFINITELY WOULD TAKE EVERYTHING FROM THEM!!! I COMPOST MY ENEMIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing will happen to them, they're muslim immigrants, protected by Trudeau
Wow, he's even driving around an 80k car. What a scam artist and what's really sad is that they're basically protected from their wealth cause most people can't afford to sue them.
I know that guy, he is a Turkish guy, and used to run a pizza store. he fired a girl and didn't pay her two month worth of pay cheques. she was from Czech republic and was waiting for her PR card so she was scared to go to the cops in case something may effect her PR card and gave up on her money. I hope this guy end up in jail for long a time
Thank you CBC Marketplace and thank you all police officers. As a Canadian, I am so sick to see this is happening, our core value of honesty is ruined by these scammers. Bring these bad guys to justice and lock them behind bars.
It’s about time. This should have been done mths. ago. SHUT these criminals DOWN !!
Shut down? How about repatriate them?
*years
These kinda people should have the street take care of them… have both their family held at gun point, scare the life out of them, and make them turn in every single person that was part of the fraud, pay every single one of the victims back, then send the whole crew in jail after
This, they should be required to pay back every cent they scammed. If they can't seize their assets and sell them all off. Leave them with absolutely nothing, then throw them in prison
@@Teh_Random_Canadian even if they’re able to pay back every cent… they should still confiscate all their assets and leave them with nothing regardless… just like how they left their victims
Rocco Scocco is probably one of the most amazing and dedicated lawyers you would ever meet. I'm glad they filmed him in action here!
Thanks CBC marketplace for being so informative and keeping it true.
Same in Quebec. I’m glad to see Ontario has started to tighten the screws
Highly appreciated your work Marketplace. You help give justice to the victims and informed the puclic to be careful dealing with movers company.
Your work is highly appreciated, it really shows tip of the iceberg though. I own a freight forwarding company and have attempted to be cheated doezens of times. This is happening at much vast scale than one can imagine.
The same thing goes on here in the United States! Great job CBC 🇨🇦💛
*Amazing Job CBC, keep it up!!*
CBC your marketplace videos are the best. Please never stop making them
Wow ...that lady called the police & they sided with the moving company, typical.
In B.C right now, the police protect the movers and so do the judges. I was told by a judge that I should have paid what ever they asked for if I really wanted my stuff back (over $11,000). He also suggested that the moving company is presumed to have a lean on all of my property, even though that would contradict our bill of rights. We have been without our property for almost a year. Wish I lived in Toronto where the police get it. Now we’re going to trial.
The police in Toronto are only doing the job because the news reporters are forcing them.
Please keep us updated on this incredible story. May God Bless Your Great Success 🙏❤️😇
Great job marketplace for exposing these scumbags, now the law can deal with them to jail for a long period of time
Lol they wont do a day in jail they will get bail
@@mu6768 The law. Ahahaha
They'll be released by the liberal govt
I worked for a moving company and we did not charge according to some "industry average". The owner would go to the customer's premises personally and estimate the move. If it was a local move it went on and hourly rate and based on one truck and however many workers it took to accomplish the move. Non-local moves were estimated on weight and distance plus accessorials. The truck was taken to some public or private scale to get an empty weight and after loading the truck would get a loaded weight at the same scale.
We have a huge problem here in Los Angeles with movers. I’ve been a victim. It’s such an unregulated business and people have no recourse against these criminals!
First I would like to thank you for airing this and investigating this. I had this happen to me, I'm from Montreal and had movers take off call me on my cell saying if I wanted my stuff I needed to pay $2400. Or they were keeping my things for one month then auctioning it off. I too called the police but was told it was a civil matter. I'm sorry aren't the police supposed to help me. Am I not a civil person who pays taxes. After I broke down and my BF threatened them did the police get involved told the movers they would have to pay to store my things until 90 days. So they brought my things back at 11:30 at night dropped it all outside on the lawn where I had to be out the next day by noon. I stayed up all night outside in the cold so nobody would steal my things. The police should be ashamed for not helping. As for the mover crookes hope they get whats coming to them like these guys.
Thank you for so many years of awesome work Marketplace
This is one of the few shows on TV that we should support more because without this show the cops would never have done this
David's gut hanging out of his single button makes this entire very credible and ethical piece comedy gold.
Marketplace did an incredible job and because of their coverage of these dishonest moving companies, justice has been served.
It should have been simpler. If someone holds your property for ransom it is automatically theft. If the customer does not pay then the company can sue the customer in a civil lawsuit. There is no right for a company to keep your property whether you pay or not.
exactly , these pig cops are worthless and the whole justice system is fkn garbage
That’s not true my brother. The contract is a lien on your property until you pay the “bill” contractually you are not entitled to your things.
With those reasons, hundreds of people would choose to scam legit moving companies out of business. Until the entire industry is shut down and you have to find another means of moving your stuff.
@@afsarahmed6365 based on your reasoning then all businesses would be closed by now. People mostly pay, they just dont wanna be scammed
@@organicsoulgumbo the bill you all agreed in the beginning, not the bill scammers made up in the end
It's too bad this won't happen in the US. I too got the bait and switch. My moving costs doubled. It's quite sad.
There's no consumer advocacy groups?
always move my own stuff no matter how long it takes me
Police 90576 - Give this COP a good CREDITs. Clean up criminals and put them in JAIL.
This constable filed charges based on feeling. This is a civil Matter 😂
I love how these criminal cowards run from the media once they have been caught. I'm glad they were caught and prosecuted. No one likes thieves and scammers.
This happened to me about 8 years ago. It was a crazy humiliating experience but boy did I learn my lesson
Thank you for shining a bright light on these organized criminals.
Always remeber if you got friends or relatives ask them to help you out with moving
This literally made me sell everything that I couldn't fit into a van and move everything myself from Vancouver to Edmonton. I 100% don't trust moving companies especially for long haul moving.
same, if i move not taking anything with me
It didn't used to be a problem. Certain demographics have inserted themselves into every field where there's an opportunity to scam. We're not getting the world's best.
@@camberwellcarrot420 we never had the world’s best to begin with. My 70 year old neighbour got screwed over by movers of a different demographic. It seems like the whole industry is rotten.
Agreed. If you need help loading the few items you could manage to fit into the van or truck, you might as well just hire a few friends and families you DO trust and pay them with pizza and beer.
Wondering if that's an overreaction. Aren't there any good moving companies? How about the more established and slightly expensive ones?
Serving them right when they got out was great.
My experience with New York movers. Straight up extortion blackmail, once everything loaded on the truck the worker demanded more cash on the spot or they will drive off and throw everything onto the street. Good to see some of those crooks in the industry arrested.
Samething happened to my brother and his wife a few years ago. Dont know what company they used but they told them one price showed up loaded up and got maybe 10 mins away from the new place stopped and demanded more money or they would dump there stuff right there and they did just that. My sister in law called the police and everything
I rather have them dump the stuff then hold it as hostage.
so nice seeing a positive follow-up story :) lololol the lawyer serving them huge stacks of suits lolol
Love what you do. Thank you for exposing and putting these criminals behind bars.
They'll be released by Trudeau
If the cop didn’t go through it!! I don’t think anything would of be done! Thank you for busting these crooks
THIS IS THE CBC I LIKE!. CANADIAN Content I like!
I miss when CBC was largely focussed on objective journalism like this. Well Marketplace, appreciate what you do.
This is awesome. Im glad that they found someone. These crooks deserve to have their pictures plastered on billboards nationwide for how many people they've taken advantage of.
I hope many of these scammers get jail time and really high fines.
Hope you follow up in part 3. Thanks for being there.
I hired a mover for $650. After truck was loaded they demanded $1000. I was forced to agree. When they got to my new home, they refused to unload unless I gave them $1500. The police said they could do nothing because it was a civil case.
Same with bigger figures too. Didn't know all movers are doing this!!! Disgusting
Talk bad about the CBC all you want, this is great stuff and they keep doing it
Imagine trying to dodge service when you’re not only outside a police station but also on camera on a national news show That’s gonna play super well in court LMAO
Loved every minute of this. Justice at last
Charges will not be laid for a few years. The actual trial will be postponed repeatedly until eventually the judge is obliged to dismiss them due to excessive delay. The culprits' rights to a speedy trial was violated. This is Canadian justice at work. Lol
"He describes everything he sees..." 'I've never seen anything like this' Thanks for that description.
Thank you for all the good work! Well Done!!!!
Bravo Marketplace! I followed your investigation and am happy to see these guys finally start to see some consequences for their actions. Keep up the good work!
love it im so glad those people got there things back i hate scammers so bad !!!! they should all be found and put in jail