The Lava Lamps That Help Keep The Internet Secure

2017 ж. 5 Қар.
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At the headquarters of Cloudflare, in San Francisco, there's a wall of lava lamps: the Entropy Wall. They're used to generate random numbers and keep a good bit of the internet secure: here's how.
Thanks to the team at Cloudflare - this is not a sponsored video, they just had interesting lava lamps! There's a technical rundown of the system on their blog here: blog.cloudflare.com/lavarand-...
Edited by Michelle Martin, @mrsmmartin
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  • i can rest easy knowing that i'm being protected by a lava lamp

    @stripethecatsoldier@stripethecatsoldier4 жыл бұрын
    • An entire wall of lava lamps

      @zooty6@zooty63 жыл бұрын
    • Ikr it’s very reassuring

      @littlefox_100@littlefox_1003 жыл бұрын
    • Java lamps: randomness found on an island in the Far East Fava lamps: randomness due to beans made famous by the film The Silence of The Lambs Cava lamps: randomness due to Spanish wine Lava lamps: randomness found by analysing the glow of a volcano Lava Lamb: a model of a farmyard animal carved from solidified lava Cassava lamps: randomness from root vegetables

      @simonmultiverse6349@simonmultiverse63492 жыл бұрын
    • all it takes is getting to the software engineer. Compromise him and the lamps are a distraction.

      @hwoods01@hwoods012 жыл бұрын
    • Lavae lampai*

      @jarrodrees7272@jarrodrees72722 жыл бұрын
  • "Oh sh!t they're onto us" *moves a lava lamp 1mm to the left* "phew that was close!"

    @Angel_Underscore@Angel_Underscore6 жыл бұрын
    • Angel 2 years and u dont have a comment yet so i decided to change that

      @frostfire533@frostfire5334 жыл бұрын
    • Angel 2 years one day, and you only have 1 comment so i decided to change that

      @mart1847@mart18474 жыл бұрын
    • Angel 2 years, 1 day, and 5 hours and you only have 2 comments so i decided to change that

      @person8064@person80644 жыл бұрын
    • Heja Angel, it's been 2 years, 1 day, and 6.3 hours. You only have 3 comments! And broski, so kind of me I know, I just had to change that

      @isaachlloyd@isaachlloyd4 жыл бұрын
    • I love the internet, because of comment sections like this

      @KokkusKonsul@KokkusKonsul4 жыл бұрын
  • You could say, it's a firewall

    @YellowLAVA@YellowLAVA4 жыл бұрын
    • Firewall from another mother

      @pxolqopt3597@pxolqopt35973 жыл бұрын
    • Lavawall

      @Dicaso9@Dicaso93 жыл бұрын
    • @@Dicaso9 ooh that's kinda cool ya know

      @SadikKhan-wt8cs@SadikKhan-wt8cs3 жыл бұрын
    • That's the most perfect pun I ever heard in my life.

      @azuredragonofnether5433@azuredragonofnether54333 жыл бұрын
    • take my like and leave

      @patstine2741@patstine27413 жыл бұрын
  • Just use a chicken and some pressure plates

    @SlayCC@SlayCC3 жыл бұрын
    • BuT It'S CoDeD

      @captaincaption@captaincaption3 жыл бұрын
    • Bats are more random

      @maggotmaskstudios7180@maggotmaskstudios71803 жыл бұрын
    • @@maggotmaskstudios7180 Bats are harder to catch.

      @IndigoGollum@IndigoGollum3 жыл бұрын
    • Nah chickens are too random

      @mobzilla29@mobzilla293 жыл бұрын
    • Villagers are better than chicken

      @Dragon-xd9em@Dragon-xd9em3 жыл бұрын
  • This is not a sponsored video. I'll always declare if something is. I just emailed and asked if I could film their lava lamps!

    @TomScottGo@TomScottGo6 жыл бұрын
    • To be honest, you need a high IQ to understand that this video is not a sponsored video.

      @bayareajokester9456@bayareajokester94566 жыл бұрын
    • Do you have to say it's a sponsored video because of British law?

      @thedude3651@thedude36516 жыл бұрын
    • KZhead guidelines/rules- you need to disclose sponsored videos

      @unknownemrys330@unknownemrys3306 жыл бұрын
    • This reminds me a lot of that scene from Johnny Mnemonic when they encode 3 random screenshots from the TV in order to encrypt the data stored in Keanu Reeves's head.

      @CybershamanX@CybershamanX6 жыл бұрын
    • this comment is one week old but youtube says the video was uploaded today are you a time traveler?

      @dm4uz3@dm4uz36 жыл бұрын
  • It's certainly cheaper than hiring 256 nerds throwing D16's with hex numbers on.

    @evilutionltd@evilutionltd6 жыл бұрын
    • Now I want a hex d16. Internet, please let this be a thing I can order online.

      @MichaelGooden@MichaelGooden6 жыл бұрын
    • How is anything cheaper than hiring 0 nerds? GET IT? No?

      @neilisbored2177@neilisbored21776 жыл бұрын
    • @@ferulebezel roll a tetrahedron twice

      @coolguy284_2@coolguy284_25 жыл бұрын
    • @@coolguy284_2 or get a d16 and paint it

      @serglian8558@serglian85585 жыл бұрын
    • @@neilisbored2177 no, i don't get it

      @happyfakeboulder644@happyfakeboulder6444 жыл бұрын
  • So, this is how the KZhead algorithm works?

    @antoniomargallo5317@antoniomargallo53174 жыл бұрын
    • Yes

      @m_affiliates@m_affiliates4 жыл бұрын
    • No

      @geradosolusyon511@geradosolusyon5114 жыл бұрын
    • Hopefully

      @zedaddy3530@zedaddy35304 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe

      @m3b02@m3b024 жыл бұрын
    • Could be

      @qualitycroissant8527@qualitycroissant85274 жыл бұрын
  • I was half expecting him to go “But lava lamps will only get you so far. That’s why I use D A S H L A N E”

    @spacedoutorca4550@spacedoutorca45504 жыл бұрын
    • Lmao

      @oopsitsdeleted6996@oopsitsdeleted69964 жыл бұрын
    • Nah, Tom Scott is ethical

      @MrJason005@MrJason0053 жыл бұрын
    • @@MrJason005 best joke

      @dontspikemydrink9382@dontspikemydrink93823 жыл бұрын
    • @@dontspikemydrink9382 What makes you think Tom Scott isn't ethical?

      @MrJason005@MrJason0053 жыл бұрын
    • @@MrJason005 i didn't

      @dontspikemydrink9382@dontspikemydrink93823 жыл бұрын
  • Doesn't this basically mean that if a key was made during the making of this video Tom would be included in the key?

    @alekheuvel9801@alekheuvel98016 жыл бұрын
    • I would assume so but it's not like that matters because it just introduces more entropy.

      @Cobalt985@Cobalt9856 жыл бұрын
    • no, the key is generated by the camera upwards

      @AnonymousGentooman@AnonymousGentooman5 жыл бұрын
    • YES.

      @billykruger8392@billykruger83924 жыл бұрын
    • @@replaceitem *algorithm

      @hansmuller1846@hansmuller18464 жыл бұрын
    • @@hansmuller1846 I think algyrthym sounds better

      @bigironenthusiast9343@bigironenthusiast93434 жыл бұрын
  • There is no better RNG than a box with a keyboard and a cat inside.

    @marcinchaciej6528@marcinchaciej65286 жыл бұрын
    • Disagree. Cat + box + keyboard = sleeping cat on keyboard, generating one or two characters varied only when cat stretches and goes back to sleep....

      @RICDirector@RICDirector5 жыл бұрын
    • onafixedincome What about Some Lion Babys or Animals that give born, and you count how many of them are coming out... 😂

      @gandalf1783@gandalf17834 жыл бұрын
    • nah = wall avoidance etc skews # probability

      @davidm.4670@davidm.46704 жыл бұрын
    • *shake shake shake*

      @peteranon8455@peteranon84554 жыл бұрын
    • Also usable for quantum cryptography. The cat can both press and not press a button at the same time ;)

      @Kenionatus@Kenionatus4 жыл бұрын
  • Two fun facts: -Tom didn't necessarily need to approach Cloudflare about filming in front of the lava lamps as Cloudflare encourages people to come pass by, take photos/videos, and even put on approved demonstrations or performances in front of the lamps, as that introduces further randomness. -Their London office has a machine that utilizes the RNG data their offices have produced to spit out receipts that contain random numbers, phrases, Magic 8-Ball responses, mazes, sudokus, and QR codes.

    @E3kHatena@E3kHatena4 жыл бұрын
    • Are the puzzles actually able to be solved?

      @Nick-bb4nk@Nick-bb4nk2 жыл бұрын
    • Another fun fact: no one cares

      @a2kvarnstrom80@a2kvarnstrom802 жыл бұрын
    • thats freaking cool tho

      @mrrooter601@mrrooter6012 жыл бұрын
    • Fun fact im homophobic

      @Bigjoebig@Bigjoebig2 жыл бұрын
    • @@a2kvarnstrom80 I care though.

      @ultragamer135@ultragamer1352 жыл бұрын
  • I've been there. It's in their lobby at reception, so it's also a gimmicky "cool thing" to have at a tech office. It's not hidden in some back room. It's proudly on display. Having said that, imagine the technicolor carnage when the inevitable (larger than normal tremors) earthquake happens.

    @dang2443@dang24434 жыл бұрын
    • They could just move the whole thing to South America.

      @kibe2134@kibe21342 жыл бұрын
    • @@kibe2134 South America would have lava for once hehe

      @JonatasAdoM@JonatasAdoM2 жыл бұрын
    • Wouldn't that make for even more complex encryption?

      @JonatasAdoM@JonatasAdoM2 жыл бұрын
    • @@kibe2134 South america also has eartquakes.

      @raimundohott9716@raimundohott97162 жыл бұрын
    • Are earthquakes just a normal thing in America??

      @Srcsqwrn@Srcsqwrn2 жыл бұрын
  • This sounds like a fact you would tell your friends on a bet to secure yourself a 100% chance of winning, because who would believe the phrase "Cloudflare is encrypting your data by using lava lamps.". This is mindbogglingly simple and genius at the same time.

    @GnomeWrestler@GnomeWrestler6 жыл бұрын
    • This would result in a hour-lasting discussion between me and my friends, about how much the chaotic pendulum and the radioactive device counts into the encryption, about how true this phrase is.

      @mcgaffin4506@mcgaffin45066 жыл бұрын
    • My passphrase is now "Cloudfare is encrypting your data by using lava lamps.". Nobody will guess that!

      @iau@iau6 жыл бұрын
    • Sounds like something Beret Guy from xkcd would pitch at a company meeting.

      @felixhultman8410@felixhultman84106 жыл бұрын
    • +Felix 100% true

      @RainaRamsay@RainaRamsay6 жыл бұрын
    • Pendulum should be deterministic, albeit chaotic. But the radioactive source is true randomness (as random as the universe provides)

      @DanieleGiorgino@DanieleGiorgino6 жыл бұрын
  • Shouting “The Wall is Lava!!” at that office is the quickest way to get yourself thrown out.

    @albertbatfinder5240@albertbatfinder52405 жыл бұрын
    • Ha. Comedy.

      @SanityDrop@SanityDrop4 жыл бұрын
    • Quicker if you throw one on the ground and shatter it, and shout the floor is lava

      @espen4330@espen43304 жыл бұрын
    • @@espen4330 Aw I was gonna say that...

      @copterinx0468@copterinx04684 жыл бұрын
    • It's a firewall

      @Hidde_@Hidde_3 жыл бұрын
    • Are you speaking from personal experience or....

      @richardmillhousenixon@richardmillhousenixon2 жыл бұрын
  • i really hope theres now some keys with encrypted pictures of tom scott standing next to the lava lamp wall now

    @charlottebiscuit4133@charlottebiscuit41334 жыл бұрын
  • I imagine that somewhere on the internet, there's a key that contains Tom Scott

    @humter@humter3 жыл бұрын
    • Oh my gosh yes

      @karlyrodenburg2776@karlyrodenburg27763 жыл бұрын
    • The Red shirt encryption key.

      @JonatasAdoM@JonatasAdoM2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video

    @smartereveryday@smartereveryday6 жыл бұрын
    • indeed

      @countingwithjerold@countingwithjerold3 жыл бұрын
    • Ey

      @romandude7740@romandude77403 жыл бұрын
    • How does this comment from smartereveryday only have 40 likes!?

      @BenjaminAnderson21@BenjaminAnderson213 жыл бұрын
    • @@BenjaminAnderson21 Because people dont like a comment just because someone is verified

      @MrJustin2105@MrJustin21053 жыл бұрын
    • @@MrJustin2105 ps I’m joking

      @duceysanem@duceysanem3 жыл бұрын
  • Damn this is clever! Who knew that lava lamps are keeping us safe 😂

    @stevenbridges@stevenbridges6 жыл бұрын
    • These lamps can't keep us safe knowing that you could easily just poke them to turn them into Aces.

      @kasane1337@kasane13376 жыл бұрын
    • Tech people, of course :)

      @buzzlightbeer4215@buzzlightbeer42156 жыл бұрын
    • Oi steven its nice seeing you here. I am very passionate about citrus fruit

      @jebbush4102@jebbush41026 жыл бұрын
    • FELLOW MAGICIAN!!!

      @jenniferstill8041@jenniferstill80416 жыл бұрын
    • Cloudflare knew

      @TechDark@TechDark5 жыл бұрын
  • I wonder what cloudflare does to keep us safe Cloudflare: haha lava lamp go blob blob

    @ZORU11@ZORU114 жыл бұрын
    • Xd

      @philippbrogli779@philippbrogli7794 жыл бұрын
    • PewDiePie 🤗

      @chocobean_@chocobean_3 жыл бұрын
    • @Mialisus nobody asked

      @mohamedmusamustafa3324@mohamedmusamustafa33243 жыл бұрын
    • @Mialisus nice

      @kittenmimi5326@kittenmimi53263 жыл бұрын
    • @Mialisus gottem

      @vinaloi41@vinaloi413 жыл бұрын
  • The one in Singapore that uses a radioactive source really interested me. The pendulum and lava lamp are macroscale versions of the Singapore one in a way, and yet using radioactive decay to generate random numbers uses such fundamental physics. It's like they have directly linked their RNG to the fabric of reality itself. The code the universe was written in is effectively interfaced directly with cloudflare servers.

    @sam23696@sam23696 Жыл бұрын
    • cloudflare servers is part of the code of the universe

      @abdirahmann@abdirahmannАй бұрын
  • God damn it Tom! How do you keep finding all of this interesting crap?

    @HussainAHN@HussainAHN6 жыл бұрын
    • حسين عبدالله it's not crap

      @catsdgs@catsdgs6 жыл бұрын
    • catsdgs it's a good kind of crap

      @pix_d20@pix_d206 жыл бұрын
    • Its not crap if its interesting 😂😂😂

      @gulraizfarrukh@gulraizfarrukh6 жыл бұрын
    • Depends on your field of study, now doesn't it?

      @GrantSR@GrantSR6 жыл бұрын
    • look a millimeter past your media bubble and you will see that _everything_ has interesting aspects to it

      @Merthalophor@Merthalophor6 жыл бұрын
  • I need a lava lamp next to my computer.

    @hmmyesinteresting@hmmyesinteresting6 жыл бұрын
    • I HAVE a lava lamb next to my computer. Someone wanted to throw it away years ago. I rescued it.

      @dragoncurveenthusiast@dragoncurveenthusiast6 жыл бұрын
    • I had one until it stopped working.

      @coolbrotherf127@coolbrotherf1276 жыл бұрын
    • I have a plasma ball next to mine. Does that count?

      @SamuelBoshier@SamuelBoshier6 жыл бұрын
    • I need a basket of kittens

      @nrellis666@nrellis6666 жыл бұрын
    • Ok is this the new account that appears everywhere?

      @chookax@chookax6 жыл бұрын
  • I feel like a aquarium would be a perfect job for this fish never swim exactly the same in the same place with the same fish around them in the exact same spot its always totally random even the plants sway as the water currents clash with the side of the glass

    @lordcatboygaming@lordcatboygaming3 жыл бұрын
    • aquarium would work, but more maintenance. have to feed the fish and all

      2 жыл бұрын
    • literally just pointing a camera at a blank wall would work just as well. The noise would be enough

      @vibaj16@vibaj16 Жыл бұрын
    • @@vibaj16 if it was that easy they would have done it. The position of the"lava" inside the lamp counts on the number generation. Even with noise, a white wall won't give you enough variety.

      @CalaTec@CalaTec Жыл бұрын
    • @@CalaTec No, a blank wall would absolutely work, especially when it's in an active office reception area with changing light conditions. The lava lamps are a gimmick to draw attention. You can just use static background radiation for randomization.

      @chrismanuel9768@chrismanuel9768 Жыл бұрын
    • @@chrismanuel9768 Now add the static randomness of a wall + laval lamps randomness and you get why they use lava lamps

      @kyarumomochi5146@kyarumomochi5146 Жыл бұрын
  • When I was writing computer games in the 1970s, I used the memory refresh register as my source of random numbers. Since my games involved a lot of human interaction, there is was adequate variation in activity to ensure that different games had different outcomes. The refresh register cycles through the memory to keep it powered, and has a large number of values each second. A weakness of the register is that numbers are sequential, but using them as a seed to a pseudo random number generator give a range of values.

    @swisstroll3@swisstroll3 Жыл бұрын
    • Z80?

      @williamdrum9899@williamdrum989911 ай бұрын
  • And then the company currently using a basket of kittens slowly, and surreptitiously raises their collective eyebrows...

    @VivienneGucwa@VivienneGucwa6 жыл бұрын
    • I personally use a erratically swinging lava kitten.

      @michaelr.7528@michaelr.75286 жыл бұрын
    • ...that is radiocative.

      @asj3419@asj34196 жыл бұрын
    • Well, they HAVE to raise them slowly and surreptitiously...ever tried moving anything quickly around a basket of kittens? :P

      @RICDirector@RICDirector5 жыл бұрын
  • If you can start predicting those numbers, you can start breaking those locks. Which is why I'm here at the headquarters of Cloudflare, in San Francisco. Erm, phrasing XD

    @LiveHedgehog@LiveHedgehog6 жыл бұрын
    • Tom Scott pro hacker

      @Jamie-tx7pn@Jamie-tx7pn6 жыл бұрын
    • No. You couldn't. You could predict the lava lamp's state, yes... But the exact amount of dust, the placement of the lamps, the amount of dust in the room, whether or not a car drove by, the exact angle of the camera and the quality of the camera (i.e how often does it take a photo, how high is the resolution, what colour space is it mapping it to), all contribute to the number

      @casperes0912@casperes09126 жыл бұрын
    • leave a camera in there

      @CMDrRedstone@CMDrRedstone6 жыл бұрын
    • _"Chris urquhart"_ You clearly don't understand chaos theory. Even if you had the EXACT lava lamp, and put the EXACT same bubble pattern in it, minute differences (your exact voltage heating the lamp, error in exactly approximating the lava lamp, a 0.001C difference in room temperature) would propogate and quickly have your "copy" diverge from what it is modeling. It's a CHAOTIC SYSTEM. What you are proposing is aakin to forecasting the weather, a decade in advance, from today's known data. There's NO POSSIBLE WAY you could know the data precisely enough to do that...you could be pretty damn accurate for a week, then chaos would rear it's ugly head. (You forgot to account for that one butterfly in Madagascar that flapped its wings.)

      @bcubed72@bcubed726 жыл бұрын
    • The sad thing is people think they are safe using ssl when they are not. Browsers always have " security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation" off. For mozilla firefox, in the address bar type about:config then enter. Then type ssl into the search box. Then look for security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation . Change it from false to true. *just a warning. websites with bad security won't work anymore* . And Some ads may disappear. Some insecure ssl advertisements were used by foreign governments to hack everyone's internet browsers. I don't know if they still are

      @buzzlightbeer4215@buzzlightbeer42156 жыл бұрын
  • Step 1: get some lava lamp. Step 2: break into Nasa and the Pentagon.

    @ticlazau7027@ticlazau70274 жыл бұрын
    • Step3: leak highly classified information Step4: fly to Moscow

      @brucewayne5916@brucewayne59164 жыл бұрын
    • Step5: eat pant

      @williamwalworth3151@williamwalworth31514 жыл бұрын
    • @@williamwalworth3151 egg plant

      @aadipandey8237@aadipandey82374 жыл бұрын
    • Step 6: chug paint thinner

      @thesuperpunmaster6369@thesuperpunmaster63694 жыл бұрын
    • Done. Now what?

      @RKroese@RKroese4 жыл бұрын
  • Cloudfare, this is the most insane idea I ve heard so far. Quite imagined randomly also. Who came up with the idea of videotaping lava lamps? That's really smart guys, keep up.

    @bkkz6769@bkkz67693 жыл бұрын
    • Nerds in the 90s did ...

      @aceman0000099@aceman00000992 жыл бұрын
  • "What do you do" "I collect randomness"

    @logan2669@logan26696 жыл бұрын
  • That is brilliant! And super mesmerizing!

    @ThisLittleCriticSanad@ThisLittleCriticSanad6 жыл бұрын
    • This Little Critic yes!

      @amany8538@amany85386 жыл бұрын
    • They did not invent it. books.google.com/books?id=-yCWwricVlYC&pg=PA50. In the 1980s there were many people using fluids and lights and CCD to make random numbers. And some people used noise. (random electricity from Mic feed into a ADC). And quantum random numbers can be made with a smart phone but smart phones can be hacked

      @buzzlightbeer4215@buzzlightbeer42156 жыл бұрын
  • Tom Scott, the genius of viral videos who’s not clickbait.

    @brunosco@brunosco Жыл бұрын
  • How to Destroy The Internet: Turn off all the lava lamps and when they cool down and the wax settles at the bottom you can decode EVERYTHING

    @real_Clone_Gordon_Freeman@real_Clone_Gordon_Freeman4 жыл бұрын
    • The image noise

      @mbfinocchiaro42@mbfinocchiaro423 жыл бұрын
    • @@mbfinocchiaro42 cover the camera

      @mickys8065@mickys80653 жыл бұрын
    • @@mickys8065 still image noise

      @Dicaso9@Dicaso93 жыл бұрын
    • @Liam Durr can't make code

      @gurin3702@gurin37023 жыл бұрын
    • @@gurin3702 replace camera with dummy that returns 0/black

      @MinePlayersPE@MinePlayersPE3 жыл бұрын
  • "pointed a camera to a basket of kittens" ..... "that would be a high maintenance" Tom.... you know there's KZhead Live streams of baskets of kittens right.....? :P

    @RodrigoGraca31@RodrigoGraca316 жыл бұрын
    • and one of them is run by a guy from a software company !

      @Satters@Satters6 жыл бұрын
    • Link????

      @odyseya@odyseya4 жыл бұрын
  • they should use edgy teens RAWR XD IM SO RANDOM

    @ReportSubject@ReportSubject6 жыл бұрын
    • This joke is severely underrated

      @scoomplers@scoomplers4 жыл бұрын
    • 1. Pay a bunch of teens minimum wage to sit at a computer 2. Run a chat program and let them talk to each other 3. Add some bots (pretending to be people) to randomly change up the conversation 4. Take the hashes of their conversation 5. Profit

      @RyanTosh@RyanTosh4 жыл бұрын
    • @@RyanTosh Why pay them? People chat in their free time.

      @user-pc5sc7zi9j@user-pc5sc7zi9j4 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-pc5sc7zi9j That way there's a high demand. You also can't just take it from a public chat room, or other people could access the data you use for your security protocol

      @RyanTosh@RyanTosh4 жыл бұрын
    • @@RyanTosh R/whoooooooosh

      @charonder@charonder4 жыл бұрын
  • 0:25 -"Cloudflare is a-" Background noices: UUUUHHHGGGGG...

    @daniellluch7881@daniellluch78814 жыл бұрын
    • and right after: wewebsites

      @iaial0@iaial04 жыл бұрын
    • gachimuchi

      @loopingdope@loopingdope3 жыл бұрын
  • I like how you manage to smile consistently in your videos and seem to genuinely enjoy life while I get annoyed when my dad comes in to watch the tv

    @JohnTaylorMusicClips53@JohnTaylorMusicClips534 жыл бұрын
  • 1:56 top left top line "uwu"

    @jchoi5407@jchoi54075 жыл бұрын
    • n o

      @tienquangbinh@tienquangbinh4 жыл бұрын
    • How serious is your ADHD?

      @mngmng_@mngmng_4 жыл бұрын
    • UwU

      @louisnolan8788@louisnolan87884 жыл бұрын
    • Under uwu and a bit to the left is jah uwu

      @tabinb.6984@tabinb.69844 жыл бұрын
    • You used "uwu" give me your human rights

      @AntiWeebPenguin@AntiWeebPenguin4 жыл бұрын
  • And somewhere in future these lava lamps will be replaced by randomly selected schroedinger cats, because some mathematician accidentally makes it easier to predict lava lamps. So you might be not that far off, Tom.

    @achu11th@achu11th6 жыл бұрын
    • If the singapore office is recording radioactive material, they're already using the mechanism behind the Schrödinger's cat thought experiment without the needless felicide

      @Latooni@Latooni6 жыл бұрын
    • Latooni Subota But you know, cats are bigger than splitting atoms. There are so many different cat species out there that a cat popping into existing still very random as you don’t know how big it was and it fur color. An atom is a little more predictable. But I agree, if cats (although internet’s favorite, still manages to be difficult to manage), radioactivity is a close and good second option.

      @achu11th@achu11th6 жыл бұрын
    • They should just use videos uploaded to KZhead in order--that ought to be sufficiently random for anyone, I should think! :)

      @d2factotum@d2factotum6 жыл бұрын
    • d2factotum except for the fact, that you could hack youtube and filter the types of video you need to create the code for you. Nobody should know, that youtube is the source for the randomness in that case.

      @achu11th@achu11th6 жыл бұрын
    • · 0xFFF1 yeah you could film the brains of randomly selected schroedinger cats. That sounds indeed better.

      @achu11th@achu11th6 жыл бұрын
  • One thing I thougth about is someone walking in front of the lamps changes it WILDLY. Also if some lamps die out (as lava lamps tend to do) it can be replaced whenever so long as a good majority are working. That also makes it harder to simulate since you don't know when a lava lamp will die.

    @dnsbrules_01@dnsbrules_01 Жыл бұрын
  • You’re one of the least toxic channels I follow. Genuine. Interesting. I love it.

    @adamrumer2736@adamrumer27364 жыл бұрын
  • Good excuse to buy some lavalamps.

    @paramost@paramost6 жыл бұрын
    • Paramost d Vdrrtthhbh😎☕️🐱😓👍🏻🌒🌞🌛🌛🌜🌟🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌦🌒🌒🌒🌞🌞🌞🌛🌛🌛🌛🌛🌟🌛🌛🌞🌞⭐️⭐️🌟🌟⭐️⭐️🐛🐛🐺🐥🐵🦁👍🏻😄😎

      @rautsaurabh@rautsaurabh6 жыл бұрын
    • Hi 👋 my mmkklôp

      @rautsaurabh@rautsaurabh6 жыл бұрын
    • "Hey Dave, I saw you charged 400 lavalamps to the company credit card." "Oh... Uh Yeah... It's for, uh... Cyber...security." "Brilliant! Dave you've done it again!"

      @voltaire6062@voltaire60626 жыл бұрын
  • this is a really cool way for random numbers to be generated, much cooler than atmospheric noise!

    @CryTyped@CryTyped6 жыл бұрын
    • When you're dealing with 10% of internet traffic, the cost of keeping a few dozen lava lamps plugged in is negligible

      @peterdvornik@peterdvornik6 жыл бұрын
  • Years ago before this I always heard that using atmospheric weather data was the standard for a good seed/source for random number generation. This is a cool idea for an alternative though ;)

    @DeathBringer769@DeathBringer7693 жыл бұрын
    • It would be, but these days, wouldn't have enough bitrate.

      @tsm688@tsm6882 жыл бұрын
  • Dear god Tom Scott; ten years by and I have learned a lot.

    @HughManatea@HughManatea4 жыл бұрын
  • Congratulations on 1 million subscribers. Very well earned. 👍🏻👍🏻

    @Paul_Lucas@Paul_Lucas6 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks

      @iSyriux@iSyriux4 жыл бұрын
    • @@iSyriux you're welcome

      @hybrid2936@hybrid29363 жыл бұрын
    • @@iSyriux you're welcome

      @anisht7524@anisht75242 жыл бұрын
    • you're welcome

      @Scampi95@Scampi952 жыл бұрын
    • Whoa, fancy seeing you here Paul.

      @GintaPPE1000@GintaPPE10002 жыл бұрын
  • I like the Kitten idea better.

    @henkbarnard1553@henkbarnard15536 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, lava lamps are cool, but Tom's channel needs more cats.

      @MaraK_dialmformara@MaraK_dialmformara6 жыл бұрын
    • Fasten the lava lamps securely and let the kittens observe

      @CircsC@CircsC6 жыл бұрын
    • Kittens are already running the internet enough.

      @Skjoldmc@Skjoldmc6 жыл бұрын
    • CircsC Fasten lava lamps to kittens them observe.

      @TorquemadaTwist@TorquemadaTwist6 жыл бұрын
    • Then cat videos will literally be the backbone of the internet.

      @amirabudubai2279@amirabudubai22796 жыл бұрын
  • TIL: The security of 10% of the internet is based on a wall of lava lamps.

    @alexanderthompson5713@alexanderthompson57133 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, that's amazing. I would have never thought of that idea for generating random numbers.

    @Abitibidoug@Abitibidoug2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks , *I feel much more secure now*

    @jumbazix4249@jumbazix42496 жыл бұрын
    • Jumbazix hahahahaha

      @DavidJohnson-mo7fq@DavidJohnson-mo7fq6 жыл бұрын
  • Yay! Someone uses lava lamps as source of randomness again! I've actually covered them briefly in my thesis - and then proceeded to extract randomness from movement of microorganisms :D

    @pawelabrams@pawelabrams6 жыл бұрын
    • That sounds cool

      @foty8679@foty86792 жыл бұрын
    • wait sorry i didn't read the replies before i said that

      @SophiaLi-pv9ec@SophiaLi-pv9ec4 ай бұрын
  • I almost instantly predicted what this was about when I started the video but I was like "that can't be what they are doing, that's way too weird and ingenious to actually work" but it turns out it's done exactly the way I thought it would. The world is a cool place...

    @GPismymom@GPismymom2 жыл бұрын
  • 2:52 left side mouse coursor moving! Btw nice video!

    @sergeychistov8162@sergeychistov81623 жыл бұрын
  • So if someone wanted a huge wall full of lava lamps in their own home, would they be able to point a high definition webcam at it and sell the randomness to other companies which need that for their operation, in order to get back a bit of the power cost for those lamps?

    @Seegalgalguntijak@Seegalgalguntijak6 жыл бұрын
    • I don't think that would be recommended mainly because the photos could be accessed by hackers and used to generate the same random keys. This is probably on a closed network making it very difficult to hack.

      @undead890@undead8906 жыл бұрын
    • Anyone who cares enough about randomness to consider a solution like that are probably too paranoid to outsource it.

      @Colopty@Colopty6 жыл бұрын
    • The pieces are inexpensive enough that any company that needs such setup probably already has one. Using a lava lamp to generate and re-generate your own passwords and keys is probably smarter.

      @p_serdiuk@p_serdiuk6 жыл бұрын
    • Yes they could, but, here they do it for free, so it's not gonna work.

      @ShadowKick32@ShadowKick326 жыл бұрын
    • No, because the duplication would compromise the "randomness". Think about it. You're pointing your camera at the lava lamps, running an algorithm to get a random number - e.g. 4589237598236529870 - and then you send out that exact same number to 100 companies. They're all getting the exact same number. So let's say that you're getting this feed of random numbers and so am I. We both get the number 4589237598236529870 sent to us. You use it to create an encryption key. All I have to do is use the exact same algorithms as you and the encryption key I get will be exactly the same. Thus, I can break your encryption. You can't duplicate random numbers and hand out the same numbers to different people, because that makes them perfectly predictable. Whatever number you were given is exactly the same number I was given too. Thus, if you were doing this, then you could only sell your random numbers to a single company. Either that, or you couldn't send out the same number twice. But that has its own problems, in that you have to obtain a random number, send it out, obtain a new random number, send it out, and so forth. You'd be limited in the amount of companies and / or the rate at which you could send out numbers, simply because of the time it takes to "round robin" through all your customers to hand them each a unique random number. (To explain, imagine that it takes 0.1 seconds to take a picture, process it and produce a random number. You have 10,000 customers. So to "round robin" through all your customers, giving them each a unique random number would take 10,000 x 0.1 seconds = 1,000 seconds or 16.667 minutes. So one particular customer only gets 1 random number from you every 17-ish minutes. If they need a lot of random numbers for cryptography, then that rate would just be much too slow for them.) No, if you're serious about your random numbers for cryptographic purposes, you can't source them from the same place as anyone else. You need your own source of randomness. Like, ooh, a big wall of lava lamps, say. Sure, choosing to use lava lamps, that's "theatre" to generate publicity. But the fact that they own their own source of randomness like this to ensure that it's totally unique and can't be duplicated, that's perfectly sound and logical security.

      @klaxoncow@klaxoncow6 жыл бұрын
  • RANDOM.ORG uses atmospheric noise, but this is more my aesthetic.

    @AexisRai@AexisRai6 жыл бұрын
    • qrng.anu.edu.au/ uses the electromagnetic fluctuations created by quantum mechanical virtual particles bubbling in and out of existence in a vacuum. Considerably more SCIENCE!, but not as a e s t h e t i c

      @admkbldwn@admkbldwn6 жыл бұрын
    • Adam Baldwin I press numbers on my keypad to get random numbers 111 uhh 1

      @DogsRNice@DogsRNice6 жыл бұрын
    • DogsRNice i got that reference :)

      @facespkz_osu@facespkz_osu6 жыл бұрын
    • Aexis Rai Did you mean: *_aesthetic_*

      @dorukayhanwastaken@dorukayhanwastaken6 жыл бұрын
    • I read somewhere that a phone can use the static of the camera to do this, so it works even with the lens covered.

      @GijsvanDam@GijsvanDam6 жыл бұрын
  • so that's how my 3AM KZhead recommendations comes

    @androuser8104@androuser81044 жыл бұрын
    • 12am

      @radardjz7275@radardjz72754 жыл бұрын
  • Never knew it worked like this. Love learning from your videos keep it up!

    @Hellboy_2109@Hellboy_21094 жыл бұрын
  • I remember reading an article back in '96 about that other lava lamp random number generator company. I always thought it was an interesting concept, and I wondered if anything ever became of it.

    @ShawnRavenfire@ShawnRavenfire6 жыл бұрын
  • PokerStars' headquarter in Australia has a laserbeam constantly shooting at a transparent mirror/glass thing. Sometimes the beam of light shoots through this material and sometimes it gets reflected and does not go through. That system is in their own words "100% random" and will decide how the cards are shuffled in every deck. Randomness is funny!

    @madsfuldgas1166@madsfuldgas11665 жыл бұрын
    • Funny how they claim that without an unbiased third party checking its legitimacy.

      @YeeLeeHaw@YeeLeeHaw Жыл бұрын
  • I hate how interesting your videos are and how much I love them.

    @user-fp3yc9hm6m@user-fp3yc9hm6m Жыл бұрын
  • Quite interesting. And great smile at the end, Tom.

    @billneo@billneo4 жыл бұрын
  • This is one of the most hilarious and amazing videos I've seen on this channel. Also the one that sounds the most like an April Fools joke.

    @Storystein@Storystein4 жыл бұрын
  • This does it, this is the video that made me subscribe. You find the most random and interesting topics to talk about in your videos. God speed Tom Scott, hope you reach 1,000,000 subs before the end of the year

    @Ares-5933@Ares-59336 жыл бұрын
  • “Who I don’t know pointed a camera at a basket of kittens” Me: MILLION DOLLAR IDEA! DIBS

    @jedidr4918@jedidr49183 жыл бұрын
  • This was the best video I have seen on KZhead in over 30 days

    @ZanderSwart@ZanderSwart2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks A LOT for all the work you put into sharing fun, strange and interesting information. I'm learning and having a lot of fun at the same time, and this has no price. Thanks again. Cheers!

    @Osira@Osira6 жыл бұрын
  • Your videos and your explanations are nothing short of AMAZING! Not to mention, highly entertaining! Job well done my friend and Thank You !

    @michaelhiggins7365@michaelhiggins73656 жыл бұрын
  • Making security fun as well as secure!

    @notprovided1131@notprovided1131 Жыл бұрын
  • I’m lightly baked and this is blowing my mind. I love lava lamps. I find their service of guarding 10% of the internet is delightful.

    @joshuagranat4877@joshuagranat48774 жыл бұрын
  • There was also that machine which rolled real dice around and photographed them to generate random dice rolls, which you'd think would work pretty well for this use case too.

    @trejkaz@trejkaz6 жыл бұрын
  • So now all I need to do is hack into the video feed of their lava lamp wall and I have the seed for their encryption hashes.... w00t!!!

    @spindreams@spindreams6 жыл бұрын
    • SpinDreams exactly my thought

      @Azettler1@Azettler16 жыл бұрын
    • Then somehow determine the algorithm used to translate physical images into hashes, after determining the data that they transcribe them.

      @rakerlad@rakerlad6 жыл бұрын
    • Well sort of, they probably have multiple cameras looking at the lava lamps in different directions generating even more encryption hashes seems pretty hard to do anything with just their vid feed, you would also need their exact software to generate the "random keys"

      @shadow19@shadow196 жыл бұрын
    • If your camera feed was timed wrong (due to network lag, different computer, etc.) by even a a fraction of a second you may not get the same random numbers. A very small variation in speed or very small deviation from their process for generating numbers from that many continuously moving lava lamps generating that long of a number would lead to failure because a 99% correct key would be useless.

      @MrLongpointlessname@MrLongpointlessname6 жыл бұрын
    • ya know there are things that you can't just "hack into" right?

      @jedigrandmaster6471@jedigrandmaster64714 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for giving good old SGI credit in the end, for a nice trip down memory lane :)

    @hartmutholzgraefe@hartmutholzgraefe Жыл бұрын
  • AWESOME VIDEO - thank you for sharing this!

    @GeorgeLevy@GeorgeLevy2 жыл бұрын
  • If some jerk put black cardboard over the camera, then it would mean the visual component would be the same black screen! Though I imagine Cloudlfare also uses more typical randomness functions in their algorythm and are really using the image just as part of the seed for the randomness (maybe the other part being the unix timecode), so that this kind of malfunction wouldnt straight-up result in the keys becoming the same, they would just temporarily become easier to figure out, and probably not for long enough for someone to breach it. I wonder if they used a low quality camera on purpose that gets a good layer of extra noise in its image or something?

    @FrankieSmileShow@FrankieSmileShow6 жыл бұрын
    • genjus

      @realcartoongirl@realcartoongirl4 жыл бұрын
    • putting a piece of cardboard over the camera, would cause the camera to capture a lot of "static noise" ... a bunch of seemingly random dots all through the picture. Not ideal but it would still be at least somewhat random. Using a low-quality camera .... could actually be a decent solution, as it would indeed cause a lot of random colored pixels in the picture.

      @Dhalin@Dhalin4 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-qy4lp8wp5c yea because the imperfection is steady - it stays the same

      @wojtekpolska1013@wojtekpolska10134 жыл бұрын
    • Hash functions. One bit changes everything.

      @NoTraceOfSense@NoTraceOfSense4 жыл бұрын
    • Hash functions. One bit changes everything.

      @NoTraceOfSense@NoTraceOfSense4 жыл бұрын
  • Being a CloudFlare client myself for a long time now, that is something I really didn't know about.

    @NotFab@NotFab6 жыл бұрын
  • Cape Canaveral used to keep an abacus in a glass case, with a notice saying "In emergency break glass"!! So much for high tech!

    @thewhites454@thewhites4542 жыл бұрын
  • I love the way Tom places a link to an issue from their blog that requires "technical background" to understand while in that very issue there is a link to a simpler one lmao Thank you for assuming we are all smart, that's so nice of you, dear Tom

    @ceramicbird456@ceramicbird4562 жыл бұрын
  • This is absolutely insane. I now have 1000+ more respect for cloudflare.

    @Joshverd@Joshverd6 жыл бұрын
  • I would hate to be the poor sap who assembled that shelf. Imagine having to run the nuts on either side of the boards down an entire 8 foot section of all-thread...

    @OnlyNotes@OnlyNotes4 жыл бұрын
    • compressed air and lube could make this an actual fun activity... (that's a sentence I should use more often)

      @LordWaldema@LordWaldema3 жыл бұрын
    • Yes. I immediately thought of the 1981 Hyatt Regency Collapse, which was effectively caused by contractors not wanting to do that.

      @UDumFck@UDumFck3 жыл бұрын
    • @@LordWaldema compressed air and lube can make anything a fun activity.

      @kibe2134@kibe21342 жыл бұрын
    • @@UDumFck Great reference-- applicable and evocative. (I think about that failure quite often and wish I didn't; it always makes me so sad.)

      @MM-jf1me@MM-jf1me2 жыл бұрын
  • 3:28 - I was fortunate enough to have been around for the genesis of that... to think, it all started with a lavalamp set up to play itself in a game of basketball! Back in good ol' Building 15... I've got a lot of fond memories from there. Before long, there 12 lavalamps (4 in each of 3 groups, on staggered 8-hours-on, 4-hours off cycles) in a data center (in another building). Fun times! P.S. How did I not see this video until now? Oh, I guess I wasn't subscribed... fixed! Thanks for refreshing the memories. :)

    @DavidLindes@DavidLindes3 жыл бұрын
  • This channel is so random.... I love it!!

    @Dave-uniquenamehere@Dave-uniquenamehere2 жыл бұрын
  • This is just one of the reason I love this world we live in. How incredibly great humans can be!

    @gemmsquash@gemmsquash6 жыл бұрын
  • Some networking gear uses voltages, temperatures and etc from the processors built in sensors. Also they try to sample the cable length, fan encoder data at random intervals, or just the minor noise that makes it through the optocouple

    @felenov@felenov5 жыл бұрын
  • I can't make sense of a single bit of this information but it made me happy and amused

    @ayeshajaved4583@ayeshajaved4583 Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video!!! Being a retired cybersecurity architect, I can wholly appreciate this!

    @rrad8106@rrad81062 жыл бұрын
  • They should use my wifes mood as the random number generator, there's no predicting that!

    @walker1054@walker10546 жыл бұрын
    • /r/incels

      @Cobalt985@Cobalt9856 жыл бұрын
    • lmao. classic

      @miru2583@miru25836 жыл бұрын
    • Xenon But it's gone now. :D

      @TheMinecraftMan757@TheMinecraftMan7576 жыл бұрын
    • @Alexis DeSilva They can still be involentary celabates if they piss if their wife/gf enough.

      @unknownemrys330@unknownemrys3305 жыл бұрын
    • @Inoxety I could say the same to you

      @Cobalt985@Cobalt9855 жыл бұрын
  • You know this seems to be something thought up by Terry Practhet.

    @johnalanwalker@johnalanwalker4 жыл бұрын
    • Anthill Inside? 😉

      @happycamper4315@happycamper43154 жыл бұрын
    • Tom managed to get into Unseen University for the making of this video.

      @Hyrum_Graff@Hyrum_Graff3 жыл бұрын
    • Leonard of Quirm drew it in the margin of one of his notebooks.

      @Zerbey@Zerbey3 жыл бұрын
    • Foul ole Ron's conscious smell cloud? Not so far off of a lavalamp.. Ratinnabun anyone?

      @Verklunkenzwiebel@Verklunkenzwiebel2 жыл бұрын
    • And they kept B.S. Johnson as far away from it as possible.

      @R.M.MacFru@R.M.MacFru2 жыл бұрын
  • When a firewall isn't enough, the lava wall comes out

    @evandermursh8410@evandermursh84102 жыл бұрын
  • Tom just got those images which were turned into data and then used to encrypt some data, what a clever fellow

    @lamichhane@lamichhane3 жыл бұрын
  • This seems like something straight out of hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.

    @whisk3675@whisk36753 жыл бұрын
  • This isn't the firewall I was expecting

    @feminico2613@feminico26133 жыл бұрын
  • Beauty given complex functionality. That's pleasing on a number of levels.

    @digitaldigdug7811@digitaldigdug78112 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating! Thanks for sharing.

    @ericcallender1575@ericcallender1575 Жыл бұрын
  • 0:00 "Computers aren't very good" - Tom Scott, 2017

    @themongoosedog@themongoosedog6 жыл бұрын
    • Its true

      @legoentertainment8750@legoentertainment87504 жыл бұрын
  • i want to see the london office with the crazy pendulum

    @burnzy3210@burnzy32106 жыл бұрын
  • This really made my day! 🤣 Thank you, Tom! 😅

    @Gerald_Hunker@Gerald_Hunker Жыл бұрын
  • Holy cow, this is the beauty of simplicity

    @kendarr@kendarr4 жыл бұрын
  • _Accidentally knocks some over_ Whoops there goes 2% of the entire internet

    @Meeminator@Meeminator4 жыл бұрын
    • but the keys are already generated

      @realcartoongirl@realcartoongirl4 жыл бұрын
    • yes it would only affect new sites getting set up

      @leojenkins71@leojenkins714 жыл бұрын
    • @@leojenkins71 it would affect absolutely nothing

      @Kletterhaus@Kletterhaus4 жыл бұрын
    • Give it to Jen

      @noneofyourbeeswax3460@noneofyourbeeswax34604 жыл бұрын
    • Keep in mind that original post got 283 comments. That's approximately the amount of people who didnt understand the video

      @Krawna@Krawna4 жыл бұрын
  • So _these_ guys are responsible for me not being able to log into Discord today, huh?

    @GabrielGABFonseca@GabrielGABFonseca7 ай бұрын
  • Such a neat set of ideas!

    @ZSchrink@ZSchrink2 жыл бұрын
  • That's so cool, great discovery mate

    @pelago_@pelago_3 жыл бұрын
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