Sand Winching, best sand anchors off-road
2018 ж. 16 Ақп.
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Sand Winching, best sand anchors off-road
We test 3 different methods of sand recovery:
0:01 Bury the tyre
10:12 Bury the high lift jack
12:52 Bury the Deadman
Items used:
Tyre and rim
High lift Jack
Deadman Off-road: www.deadmanoffroad.com/
ARB recovery gear bag
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you don't have to dig the DEAD MAN out. just winch on one of four straps. it will come out -All the way from Sri Lanka
great idea :)
The US Army FM 20-22 Vehicle recovery handbook is priceless. You can find them easily in PDF form. It covers all these methods, plus so much more.
Will check it out thanks.
Thanks!
Have my old mans still.. Amazing book lol. I have a few other old school books on it. Ever seen a winch made from rope and 2 small trees?
Thank you mate…
Lucas R.... thank you so much supporting this HillBilly; an *Aboriginie in Australia knows... better. I thoght US-Americans are practicable and modern.....
When stuck in mud, sand or snow after youve found a good anchoring point to hook your winch line to lay the winch line over the top of your spare tire about 5 feet in front of your rig . It will lift your vehicle up out of the mud , sand or snow before its starts being pulled forward. Its amazing how fast a vehicle is recovered using the spare as a lifting point
That's the way farmers pull a tree root out with a tractor, produces vertical lift on the root right away.
True..... but also increases danger by insuring the line will go high if something breaks....🤪😬
I think the hi-lift jack would have worked if it was burried deeper. the other critical component that was missing from these attempts was that you didn't dig a lead line trench from the depth of the anchor in the direction of the winch. this would have given less of a vertical (lifting) force component and it would have engaged more passive resistance from the earth you are trying to anchor in. another easily stored option that would require a lot less digging is a tilting plate passive earth anchor. I have seen these used for heavy equipment tie downs with great success as long as it is installed correctly.
Must have for any recovery kit- two other mugs to do the digging!
Hahahahaha yer of course it’s called positive feedback, beer bbq, and paid for the work. 😆
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Lesson from snow & ice climbing: make sure the lead from the dead anchor is buried so that the pull doesn't just lift the anchor out of the snow/sand - the anchor needs to stay below sand level, so line up the pull rope/strap accordingly. And make the anchor want to bury itself rather than pop out by leaning it away from the pull direction.
very good video, thanks. I may note that on all buried recovery points the resistance to withdrawal is improved greatly if a trench is dug to ramp up the rope rather than the rope coming vertically out of the hole. with a ramp the anchor is pulled through the ground rather than pulled up through the back-filled material. Ramping the trench at a 1:3 slope (for every foot deep ramp out to 3 feet or the equivalent ratio in metric) would easily double the withdrawal resistance due to the shear capacity of the undisturbed ground. it is also easier on the rope and does not embed as much sand into the fibers.
Try a builders tonne bag. We use the for delivering sand to building sites in the UK. The other plus about them is they are strong and practically free.
I notice whenever someone is testing the Deadman it's always in nice soft sand and on a sunny beautiful day. If only life was that convenient, lol!
You go to the beach in a storm? It's meant for sand and most people are at the beach on a nice beautiful day.
I'd rather have overcast day myself....Digging that sand on a "beautiful" day is hot work, for you and your winch.
Thanks for going to so much effort in this video guys, wow what a workout!
When you berry anything for an anchor you need to dig a small channel for your strap or cable to lay in so it's not trying to pull it up and out of the hole
Should have tried to bury a pair of maxtrax. He also should have used a winch cable instead of a snatch strap. The smaller the strap the better will it cut trough the sand building a better angle to winch out🤔😅
Totally agree, this is way more critical than people realise
A good video and public service. One thing i would add is bury your point as far as possible from the stuck vehicle. Use as much working strap as you can. The reason being is if you get stuck again digging that hole a second time is a real pain in the butt... from first hand experience. ;-)
Great point! comment of the day so far
Yes and another advantage is that the winch will have greater pulling power with most of the cable off it's drum.
it's the exact same as anchoring a boat. the more scope you have out, the better holding power your anchor will have.
True just like anchoring in the snow during alpine climbing u need to dig a proper T for maximum effect and minimum effort
It's great that you guys take the time and so much effort to demonstrate what works.
The Dead Man Tool is so greatfully..best thing for towing in sand i ever seen! Thanks every time for your very very good Videos Ronny!
I love how honest your reviews are. Keep it up.
Thank you for this. I've got a winch installation ordered and the Deadman is already in my van. Your videos are very helpful for someone not a hardcore off roader but someone looking for modest adventure in the pursuit of other goals.
Hum, 12:40, the hi-lift does not appear bent, the tube arm does, thus, it is good. Wow, the Dead Man is a winner-winner!
great effort Ronny, the deadman works tops and easy to store in a recovery kit, etc
Bulka bag $20 at sand or brick suppliers- will give that a try, I have seen them lift 2 tons. Also if you can't get a bulka bag out, just leave it there ( with regard to the environment, ie if tide beating ya, Good stuff!)
An idea tried in Mexico was HI lifting each wheel filling hole with sand and topping with Max Trax. Worked like a charm..
Thanks guys for doing this. I bought a Deadman when they were doing a Kickstarter.
Back in the old days around 1975, I did what you guys are doing with my 1956 long wheelbase Land-Rover, the difference being I had a Capstan winch, and a 100 meters 25mm dia manila rope we buried the spare wheel 750 X 16 halfway through the pull, the chain broke around the buried wheel, so moral of this story add a 2nd rope independent of the first rope and leave it above the suffice, so you don't spend the rest of the day looking for the said buried wheel Australia
Another unbiased demo, thanks for your thoughts on blankets too, common sense but not always that common, cheers Ronny, the deadman was excellent btw 👍🏼
That dead man works a treat!!! Might have to buy one!! Thanks again for the awesome video Ronny and crew 👌👍
First time I saw Ronny without a hat. Can't unsee.
Excellent recovery stuff for the road ... what a great idea ! Thanks Ronny !!
Great recovery system. Always great videos.
Agreed, Deadman should pay you for advertising their product. Great kit and thanks to your team for showing the viewers the difference in sand winching.
Ronny - I carry a normal everyday boat sand anchor... Simple to use... Dig a good hole and bury it and your winch cable with the shank at a 45 degree angle and out you pop... The pull of the winch forces the blade deeper into the sand and they work well without having to bury a bloody big tyre...
The deadman has multiple uses and packs into a tight space without the weight.
Exactly what type of boat anchor works for this? I searched online and their are many different options.
@@Tsalinger But you don't have to dig a 4 ft hole with a boat/sand anchor. You can still carry the sand anchor (army calls it a sand parachute0 for the other uses.
Learn something new everyday when I watch your videos...you are amazing 👍👍👍
Just have recently added a winch to my truck love all the tips and tricks very useful info
Well done Ronny and crew!
I had a similar situation on a SA beach ,with waves lapping at the back wheels we used a ground anchor (brand name I think) It`s a heavy steel thing with folding wings . It saved the 130 but my buddy had to ride it , we also needed a snatch block. It also showed me the treachery of beach driving ,70 kph to dead stop in a very short distance , no we didn`t cross a stream .Thanks to you & your hardworking crew for making this video.
the dead man is good for many reasons: easy to pack & carry, many different applications, it isn't stored underneath the vehicle when you weren't planning on getting stuck, no risk of wrecking the valve stem on the spare tire, or bending the wheel, easy to wash, could be used to secure other items tying a load down, possible ground sheet to stay cleaner if working under your vehicle, close off a broken window opening, a miniature tarp for rain protection, and even as an apron for cooking...apparently...yeah, so far I like it.
Awesome recovery, hope Dillon got out of that last Deadman recovery hole ok :) always great to learn safety from your videos Ronny, Cheers.
Thanks for all the hard work.
I have seen the Dead Man used by the manufacturers, but this video sold me on it Ronny! RIP High Lift jack. You died for science!
Great vid mates! I live in the states and I’ve been shown how to use the dead man anchor with a spare tire AND the high lift jack. Ideally, you dig a trench perpendicular to your vehicle and wide enough for the spare and high lift jack to fit into. Dig the trench to a depth of 12 inches (30 cm) deeper than the spare tire size. Run the high lift jack through both loops of your tree saver. Then run the big loop that you’ve made through the back of the spare. Connect a soft shackle through the big loop and connect your winch to it. The strap will pull the high lift against the spare tire. This works well in soft earth and partially muddy (not boggy) trails. Bob’s your uncle and you’re free! Cheers to the great vids!!
Thumbs up just for the amount of work put into this video. Thats a lot of digging.
Thanks for posting this guys. In need a sand anchor to move a beached sailboat. Haven't had much luck but this looks VERY likely.
Great vid - Deadman is a winner. Typical Sandgroper weather, blowing a gale at the beach!
We always feed our deadman before putting in the hole to add more heft,, nice video, Thxs for posting this, really good info,
FANTASTIC !!! GREAT Work. Thank You.
Great job ronny loved the video, i liked the sense of humour in it keep it up
Wow im impressed, not too many peeps have heavy vehicles like you do. Thx for the test. If you get stuck on the beach on low tide you can say goodbye to your vehicle
Awesome video... I work with cranes and rigging, we use shackles, what you referred to as a D ring- there's all sorts of different types- but we use them to keep the slings from burning against itself- enough pressure and they'll melt together. Can totally understand why using metal could pose a hundred different hazards in off road applications..
i think maxtrax combined with a smaller tyre like a 32 to help with the lateral drag would work really well in wet sand, but that deadman is the ultimate beach kit, thanks for sharing the knowledge gents
Hi Ronny, great video as always. When pulling out dead man from a sand you should use only one corner, not two to recover it from sand. They showing it on their channel at the end of one the review. Cheers
You put a lot of effort mate… Thank you for the info…!
Thank you very much for this. I learned a ton here.
Wow that deadman was amazing.
i always planned on using my spare tire in this scenario. I am ordering a deadman now! looked so much easier. i think you are supposed to attach winch to 1 leg to pull/ slide it out. Awesome video and great info
Thank goodness for trees! Good show!
That was really interesting, impressed by that deadman yoke!
Just subscribed, your vids are pretty well thought out. The recommended hole shape for any Earth anchor or deadman is a “T” shape with the base pointed towards the vehicle and inclined so the strap pulls from the bottom not up over the edge of the hole, thereby, lifting the anchor. A plow type boat anchor works well too and digs its own hole and if rigged with a trip line from the other end will pull out easily too.
That fabric and nylon webbing Deadman has been used for twenty years (that I know of) to sand-anchor big display kites. Very effective anchor, and packs up nicely for storage.
Another good video Ronny & the team, because viewers will watch this for years, it might be worth updating a pinned comment that says the original video had the deadman incorrectly used upside down (should be the face up and the smile closest to the car) and that to remove without digging it out you attach the winch rope to just ONE of the legs and the manufacturers say it will pull out fairly easily! Cool looking product with multiple uses
The Deadman is the only thing I'd use in sand or even mud. After seeing the demo by the company (buried way deeper than rig was) it was truly impressive for the money. Since then I've used it heaps (not just for myself) & it's never failed nor is it even worn (just fyi). Best purchase I ever made!
I think you just sold a whole bunch of Deadmen :)
I almost purchased a bit pricey,
Looks to be well made and ever video I see with the dead man shows it works so me personally if I'm going to spend money I want to know it's spent well.
As soon as he said wow, it really worked, SOLD!! Nice!!
That was the point, a commercial
It’s not a commercial. It’s a demonstration. I got mine after watching this.
Enjoyed this Great work guys!!
Great video! Learned a couple new techniques.
Quality as always. 👍🏻
What a beast the Dead Man is, going to buy one. :)
Best use of a high lift jack ever.
I buried a log once, took me 4 hours to did the hole deep enough. Had a winch but there was nothing solid within winching distance. I now have 60m of winch extension and after this I’m buying a deadman. Thanks Ronny.
Thanks Ronny greetings from Holland Jan
Wow, great demo and a lot of hard work.
Real world testing...well done chaps!
Hi Ronny, another great video. I am way suprised by the Dead Man - that thing works an absolute treat. I think the Maxx Trax would be a better fix for sand, but Dead Man is a winner!
From USA - keep up the good work
Great info as always, I use PRT Land Anchor, these are also good in sand and thick boggy seaweed, also worth a look, cheers :)
A Danforth style anchor, about 22lb. might do very well, I had a 45' houseboat moored with 3 of them and even Hurricane Wilma didn't break them, but bent the flukes in a 15' storm surge. Bury one and ramp the rope out of the hole, keeping the angle low. The more pressure you put on them, the deeper they try to go.
Ronnie did you see you just pull the deadman out by one strap from the back and it leaves no hole behind, what a cool recovery tool!!!
The deadman is upside down, the reinforced straps are on the back
love the name of your truck. with the parachute anchor (deadman) you can also run the back legs through the front legs if you are short on shackles. as you saw trying to pull it out with the winch that is not an easy task. a log is the original deadman anchor. I have also seen a largish loose rock wrapped with a strap and buried. the highlift should be a last resort item unless you own stock in the company. they will get bent most every time doing that.
howdy my understanding with them Recovery damper u should put sand in them as well to stop the rope coming fly back at the car
Wow wasn't expecting the deadman to work that good, best part is it just folds up and you cam chuck it behind the back seat no bulky storage issues
I don't play in the sand but you just sold a Dead Man. Great review Ronnie.
Great vid Ronny!
Wayne, you deserve a beer after all that digging.
Excellent review with tips and tricks mate. Deadman for next birthday for sure. Cheers Moose.
I'll never go beach 4x4 camping again without the deadman after seeing that.
Thank you for the good tip
really nice video thanks Ronny
That’s a must have recovery gear!
Awsom man thats a life saver for the tire hack. From Saudi the Deseret land
Fantastic video thanks for sharing
Hi Ronny, a little Swedish in you I can guess. If you will or can put some links where you buy your stuff from hade been great. Thanks for having this show on KZhead. Learned so much from you, thank's.
So a land anchor looks priceless 👌 when you dont have to dig.
looks like you were enjoying the challenge!!
I've seen people winch off of buried maxtrax too... cool stuff.
Love it Ronny, great vid! You need to replace that Factor55 with the Flat Link E. No moving parts and closed system :) And i think i would like to see how 4 maxtrax would go getting you out
I did something similar but buried a 8 foot 12 inch diameter log and it worked great!
Good Stuff,Great Tips😄👍🏿
I'm impressed with that deadman.
That looks a good bit of kit , not quick but certainly get you out of trouble, maxrax would work think you might need two to stop any flexing , any thing wide enough to hold against the sand , great video as usual , cheers
Malcolm Douglas did the buried tyre recovery on one of his shows about 40 years ago. It has been burned into my memory all that time as a way out of trouble.
Cheers, Ronny I enjoy your videos mate. I'm impressed with the dead man too. Do you have a link to the soft shackles please. Thanks mate, keep up the great work.
Sleipnir! love it :-D cheers mate
Great vid - small suggestion - when burying your tyre use your tyre lever behind the hole in the wheel to attach your strap to. this way the strap wont damage your tyre.