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Lions weakness atm: 1) DE 2) WR (depth) Very few kids come out of lower ranking conferences to do well in NFL. Yes, there are some but not a ton.
We didn't improve at LB. We have the same 4 as last year. I don't think we improved at WR. We lose a starter in Reynolds and think DPJ can fill that role. As much confidence as people put into DPJ or Green, they seem to have no confidence with our current DEs At DE we have Davenport, Houston, Pascal, Cominski and the player from Canada. You don't think in rotation, those players are capable of playing opposite of Hutch? If that's how people feel, don't do what we did last season with Romeo Julian and Charles Harris. Instead of trading them for a player or a draft pick, we let them ride the bench and then walk. Keep 2 and trade the others so you have depth. I think we have more DEs then we do LB, DT, WR, Safety and TE. Pass Rush doesn't always have to come from the Edge. Alim McNeill had 5 sacks last season and missed 4 games. With DJ Reader next to him, along with alternating DEs like Josh Pascal, who can provide more of an interior pass rush. We have options at that position. With the players we currently have under contract, I bet they get more combined sacks, hurries and pressures, then any rookie from this year or player that was available in F.A. it's not just about sacks.That would be like judging a CB on how many interceptions he has per season and ignoring his great coverageing ability.
Not concerned with WR at all. Jamo is taking the #2 spot which is Reynolds spot. There are plenty on the roster to work with. If they don't work wait until final cuts.
@@stu_boogie2488 If St Brown or Jamo gets injured were in trouble.
Remember, Ja is not a running back, he's a weapon. Last year I thought the Lions did a poor job of not having him as well as David Montgomery on the field at the same time. I like to see more of that this year.
Lol nobody would trade for romeo julian or charles. Literally 2 of them are out of the nfl and julian has no value. And lb??? We only need depth. Our top 4 are great. Idk how you could think we needed improvement at lb. I agree tho, if were lacking anything, we could use a pass rushing de, or a another vet wr perhaps. But really im not worried about either. Both kalif, dpj, green and washington are more than capable of taking nfl reps.
There was a stat a few years ago which showed that all you needed to do was to flush the QB out of the pocket consistently and you'd win games. So then a lot of teams went with mobile, rushing-type QB's who could throw outside of the pocket or they'd just take off and run it. You need a line that can adjust to those types of quarterbacks. The Lions certainly had trouble with mobile QB's last season.
i agree mobile QB is the lions kryptonite and they know that already, we signed hobbs 2 years ago just for him to be mobile on the practice squad offense.
I really like this format of you 2 on together, really good back and forth
you guys did not even mention 29 reps on the bench strong AND explosive 👀
I'm not much into Pro Sports anymore. But I have always enjoyed the building of a team, with the focus on the UDFAs. All that to say I like two of you guys kick'n around.
There are 38 players on the Lions Defense Player list. Stop thinking about adding players. Which ones will be gone is the right question. Cominsky, Mitchell, Tyson etc.... Teams don't get to have 80 players on them 🤣😂😄
Gonna be a brutal camp...😮
I'm actually liking how that defensive line is looking on paper anyways!
Yeah, on paper it's great. Hutch, Reader, McNeil, other great players who are escaping my mind at the moment 🤷♂😆 Should be fun to watch, hopefully with or without an improved pass rush. Definitely hope we get help, but I think it'll be great either way
Would look forward to seeing if either of these guys pays off, but I'd also be curious to see what a good year of healthy James Houston could bring. We'll see. Go Lions!
I have been on the same page as you waiting for Houston to pick back up. At this point I’m starting to worry his injury is career threatening.
Lynn got some coverage early on since he visited. I recall looking him up then. They guy from the Czfl is also in this.
You guys did excellent dialogue in this video. Great presentation. And lions information! Staying tuned.
Glad you enjoyed it!
While I agree with the pass rusher dialog everyone wants to ignore the "tape" yes in "stats" the Lions pass rush fell way short last season, but, the "tPe" shows they were al.ost always 1 to 2 steps away, often less. So simply improving coverage is a huge change 1 second longer. Also I believe Houston healthy, Davenport, and Betts, and Pascal with potentially his first FULL season. Will be better than last year anyway. Also, pressure from the middle will be greatly improved. Not really worried
People making the point about pass rush are making a dumb emotional point in that the best pass rush in the league gets home in 2.5 seconds. Fans should go to their phone and use the stopwatch function. I’ve yet to see one comeback and tell us how often the QB got the ball out in under 2.5 seconds. Deduct those downs because THAT IS NOT A RUSH ISSUE. It’s a very specific design teams use to stop the rush. Some need to rewatch the ravens game with that in mind. I’m aghast at how few people realize this. The ones who do saw what Holmes did, clearly. That on those sub 2.5 second passes, there wasn’t a corner on the team who could cover that type of attack.
Six feet tall and 260 lbs. he’s a brick. Hopefully Davenport works out.
A MUST GET: JAKE BATES🏈🎯
IMO We don’t need a STUD DE opposite of Hutch to be a Dominant Defense. I believe the pieces we have in place on the back end with our Corners will increase the production from the Line. I’d rather have a few good men than 1 great player.
U guys are sleeping on houston & Betts ( Canada guy) those guys if used correctly will make a splash
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Go Lions
Middle pressure is everything
I have a question for you guys. I looked at Arnold's and Rakestraw's scores and compared them to Jeff Okudah. Okudah beats both of them on the measurables. He scored better out of college. I'm only questioning this now. Brad has been more right than wrong. What happens if both picks are busts?
Good question. Okudah came into a brutal culture and then was injured. This culture makes up for any development that might need to take place. Hard believe they would both be busts
You can't measure heart buddy. Who's Jeff Okudah? When did Brad draft him? OK now settle down.
Measurables only tell a small part of the story. Okudah in 2020 was a consensus top CB, PFF and almost everyone thought he was a day one lockdown CB 1 but he was injury prone and had very little help from safeties and it was just a recipe for disaster. He didn’t lack talent in college but that’s where our scouting department comes in and why Brad Holmes has had so much success in his short career as a NFL GM. Both Arnold and Ennis are coming into a healthy situation with 3 experienced Vets already here he’s not expected to go 1 on 1 with Ceedee Lamb in his first game, they can learn and grow with talented young safeties to help them out.
I get it all. I'm kinda questioning the whole scoring. Every channel brings up analytics justifying Brad's picks being good. So has every regime. Then character was a big deal with Marinelli. Sure he drafted good guys but weren't good football players. I'm taking a sit back and watch for this draft class. Those first 2 picks makes me nervous.
Okudah was injury prone for two reasons - he left college early and was also a Covid-restricted player. Players who don't get in enough college ball are well known to be injury prone in the NFL.
I was talking all day about Darius Robinson coming to Detroit. I fully believe he was our guy BUT that was under the assumption that guys like Arnold just wouldn’t be there and would cost too much. Getting Arnold was THE best thing we could have done with our picks in the first round. He is exactly what we needed
every game last year we was almost getting home over and over if we can lock some receivers down sacks will be there
You need more than bookends, I like how they address the interior line all we really had was McNeil and we have addressed lb and safe the idea having this awesome egde rush game is going to be are salvation on defense is a lie we need balance and now they are achieving that !
I think Pascal will step up and Houston if they stay healthy 💪🏾
The one listed as DE/ DL is barely over 250. And this didn't just happen as you are suggesting. I thought it was actually someone new.
What do you classify Wingo ?
the start 🤣🤣🤣
James Houston was getting a sack a game until the Aaron Glenn made him drop back in coverage. He hasn't had a sack since, Thx AG. Does Von Miller drop back in coverage? Nope
First of all, Houston was injured in the 2nd game last year and was out the rest of the year (hence why he didnt have a sack since). Hutch drops into coverage as well (hence why he has 3 ints). If Houston wants to be a 3 down back, he has to drop into coverage sometimes otherwise we are tipping our hand EVERY time he is on the field. If he plays off the ball more he doesnt have to contend with being erased at the LOS. Also Von Miller definitely didnt only rush the passer on every down.
I share your viewpoint. Instead of utilizing the obvious freak abilities of Houston and using them to full advantage AG is trying to make him into something else. He didn’t same with Campbell. It is a stubborn point of view and if he is not careful Houston could end up with a coach who gets him and uses him to debating results.
The Lions faced a lot of mobile QB's and you do need to have linemen dropping back to cover them. They had real difficulties with those types of quarterbacks.
Maybe with a better secondary, he won't need to
FACTS 💯!! I get AG wants to make Houston more than a sack specialist but he needs more reps going forward rather than backwards.
What about the guy from the CFL?
Cam Sutton was playing injured, toe, late in the season.
Under size and under speed is a bad combo
Some people worry about football. Some people worry about measurables.
@@adgee5401 he didn't start when he went to a real school
For all the talk about drafting defense, I never once heard anyone talking about drafting a linebacker or signing one in free agency. We have the same 4 as we did last year. Same with receivers. Those two positions did not improve.
Houston will be the x factor this year. With Reader, McNeil and Hutch.
Healthier than James Houston
detroit. not deeetroit
Everybody wants to Trust Brad but at the same time nobody likes what he’s doing on an edge rusher. So which is it? Trust Brad or not?
Because most fans only want to chase after names and only get their info from folks like Mel Kiper.
JOSH is NOT A PASS RUSHER! HES A MOBIL DT
You guys are focused a lot on the defense you just remember Josh Reynolds isn't there and he was a big part of that offense
You guys, These young guys have yet to develop we are in a great position..Brad knows exactly what he is doing... Pascal and Houston and co. Are more than enough..😅😅 Y'all don't know Jack booty😅
It's not a mystery. That's why he went undrafted
Come on guys your starting to have click bait headlines. just stop
Good throws always beat coverage stop wasting picks
And quick releases always beat pass rush. There are very few pocket passers left in this league. Joey freaking Harrington was once one of the least sacked QBs in the league. His passes went for 3 yards a crack. So coverage mattered. It’s time the Lions stopped blowing picks on linemen.
Everyone said draft defense as long as it didn't include linebackers. Same 4 from last season.