MAN TGX 520 Full Tour & Test Drive (Camera Mirrors) 2024
2024 ж. 16 Мам.
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I take you on a Full Tour & Test Drive of a 2024 MAN TGX 26.520 with Camera Mirror's. Are they any good? Let's find out...
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Much respect to Stavros for delivering a fair, non biased review, you can always count on him to give an honest opinion, be it good or bad. Very entertaining.
Curious the cost of replacing a mirror vs the cost of replacing a camera system, seems like a huge long term repair issue.
The engine start/stop button on the door is a brilliant idea. Anybody who has tried to start the engine on a Volvo FH when the cab is tilted would be glad of this feature.
As a both MAN and DAF owner I mostly agree with you about the MAN. But not when you want a touchscreen and not smart select system. When you have learned the menu's it is much easier to use Smart Select then a touchscreen. Cause you feel the steps as you turn the two wheels on Smart Select, and you know exactly were you are in the system, without taking your eyes of the road. With touchscreen you have to take a look, just to be sure you hit the right spot on the screen.
I know I am old with 30 years on the road but I can’t help to think that all this modern technology is all becoming too much and distracting away from the real job of using and driving a lorry in a real world situation. Maybe some of the “old timers” get my meaning .
Yes I agree, I actually think the so called safety features are a distraction with alarms beeping all the time and you have to take your eyes off the road to switch them off. These safety features should be tested by hgv drivers on the road before being implemented.
I don't find them distracting but helpful
Been getting about for nearly 40 yrs without all this guff....soon they'll be designing "rounder m" wheels.
@christophermgwadira4400 fair play to ya if, if you like flashing lights and bleeping noises while driving then your in luck because that's the future.
There's a golden midway somewhere but the gold belongs to managers while the midway belongs to the driver.
Good Sunday morning Stavros good to see u back 👍
Stavros, great Sunday morning viewing as usual. It's more so a great, honest review. Why are they trying to re invent the wheel with them idiotic suicidal mirrors. In reality, what happens on a smart motorway if they go out?? Designers playing with people's lives. Had a Actros demo for a week with mirror cam took it back after 1hour not for me. Have a good week Stavros look forward to the next 😊 👌👍
i used to work on them too much tech which goes wrong as with most stuff today and they say this is progression it just makes it dealer only repairs and M A N parts are not the cheapest .
Stavros is right on time for a great viewing on my sunday Arvo!! The sound of the MAN engine is a very nice sound. But that air noise even through my headphones drowned out Stavros. Another fantastic video Stavros. Keep them coming. 👍 From 🇳🇿. Cheers Stavros!!
Great to see you back Stavros... keep the videos coming
Greetings from Singapore. Nice too see you back Stavros lad. Another cracking upload.
I prefer traditional side mirrors. Manufacturers shouldn't go all out digital rather leave some analog features
Good work Stavros, I do enjoy and learn more from your tests
First time having a gander inside these new mans, and have to say there is alot of design elements that are very scania esq.
Basically the same company, both owned by VW.
Good morning Stavors, hope you are well another great video
Thanks for the US conversion, Stavros. ;) Always nice to see your videos.
I'm obsessed with trucks, thank you so much for all the information you always share
Welcome back 🤗 brother
Greetings from Cuba. Nice to see u back
Good morning stavros It's funny how you demo the MAN with camera mirrors this week and my neighbour has been using one as his DAF was the bodyshop result of a flying rock, said exactly the same the camera mirrors are nowhere as good as what's on his Daf and was as he put it's a gutless wonder. Take care look forward to the next video, cheeeers
Gearing plays a big part in the performance I'd say. Also haven't heard a lot of good things about the Tipmatic transmission, although I've yet to drive one. I'd say Volvo's iShift and the Scania Opticruise are still the best automated transmissions in the truck world. Interesting review nonetheless. A colleague of mine drives a Mercedes Arocs with digital mirrors, he has just about the same complaints as you, with the addition of them taking up so much space on the inside they actually block the view past the "a-pillars" in the cab. They'll have to work on those things a bit more I feel. I'll keep rocking my trusty FMX a while longer. Nothing digital about it 😎
Great video Stavros . Balanced, honest & unbiased. Don't think that would be on my shopping list.
any chance get test ride on new volvo fh16
Was waiting for this one, best truck reviewer doing the "new" MAN :D Ive been a Scania fan forever, but since this truck came out in Euro Truck Similator 2 i have a new favorite ö
My Fav Truck ❤ MAN TGX TG3👍 Thanks For Sharing Mr.Stavros💪
you live in a nice country Stavros. I was there in monday unloading one place loading one and out Dublin to Holyhead
I drove a MAN bus here in Australia and even back then[2018] I noticed on a roundabout that the transmission was very slow to select the appropriate gear, it also fitted with the ZF transmission. I would have thought would have been in2024.
Looks like a very nice truck.
Nice to see u again, forget the Man stick with a Scania 770s😂
It's nice to see you back stavros, are you going to try get hold of some older trucks like the volvo fh12 2000 to 2010 and also the daf 105 xf.
I think most drivers prefer normal mirrors and find it easier to judge with normal mirrors but as usual no one is bothered about the drivers opinions and if you have a knock because of these camera mirrors it’s always down to the driver as always.
If it lowers the fuel consumption by 0.01% they will force it. No matter what drivers want. It's all about fuel efficience and profits. Profits for both transport companies (if you save 1 liter every day for each truck and you have 200 trucks, it's 73,000 liters per year) and truck manufacturers that sell something that costs 50 and sell it 2000 (you can't sell a mirror for 2000)
Enjoyed the video chap...No comment on the MAN as we have a few of them for the unlucky drivers..lol..
I would love a review of the new iveco as it’s got a new interior
Wake up babe! Stavros just uploaded! 😉
Hello Stavros . First of all , I 'm very pleased to watch at one more of your video. Thank you very much to be honnest about your MAN test ...at least you talk about all the bad points of this truck ( is there positive ?😅) , we must admit that most of trucks testers always says that the truck they try is the best , whatever the brand ! Greatings from Brittany.
Greetz from Belgium on this Palmsunday 👍
My 09 Mack CHU613 gets 7.4-7.9 mpg pulling 120k lol... 18 spd tho. As far as digi mirrors, I like them as a supplement for straight on driving on in pouring rain but, you always need glass mirrors...
stavros have u tested scanias newest or volvos newest trucks,,...?
I drive a DAF XG+, occasionally switching to the XF F106, I must say sometimes I prefer the F106 simply because of all the new quirks and issues. DAF definitely has the gearbox issue resolved. Though I firmly believe this really also has to do with how the truck has been driven when it came off the line. The XG series overall seems much driver-directed by looking at this video and comparing it, sure, the MAN may have more powerful engine options but for comfort, I'd be quite happy with a DAF. I've also had several times the chance to drive a Mercedes Actros and Antos. I've found that Mercedes also struggles a lot with gearing and at low speeds has trouble finding the right gear, this is more noticeable with a heavier load. The interior of Mercedes though also feels way too plasticky. Good as a work horse, not as a comfort cab for long hauls. But thats more so my opinion.
Nice looking trucks these new Man's. Be ok with mirrors though.
Morning Stavros
Lucky you have performance mode, our MANs have efficiency and efficiency + only, fully laden 44t they are so gutless joining a motorway and the biggest bugbear is the dashboard defaults back to metric everytime you turn of the ignition. So have to reset to imperial every time. Was told the display wasn't touchscreen because its out of date, its easier to use the rotary system to find what you need, yep I still struggling with that concept considering every other new truck has touchscreen
Our logistics transportation company the 4th largest in Germany based in Hamburg, during the last board meeting, the comoany has rescinded all truck orders from MAN & Mercedes due to numerous technical problems encountered from this two Germany made particular brands and switched on by ordering additional 60 Volvo FH 16 750 & the latest V8 Scania S 700 series directly from Vabis Sweden. MAN is good only for industrial engines just like Mercedes. By the way, so many logistics transportation companies in Germany sued MAN and Mercedes at the Federal court in Bavaria. We do have zero technical issues with Volvo & Scania heavy duty trucks deployed to transport heavy steel coil directly from steel processing plant to Automobile manufacturing plants in the South, Northern and Western part of Germany. Volvo & Scania trucks are already sold out in Germany due to the higher constant demands.
What is your company Name
Nice 👍
I've driven a brand new Man kept have to change Speedo to mph all the time from km when you removed the key . Was a lower model xx
Another fantastic and very good review stavros. Really love your videos and reviews. Please keep them coming. Kind regards Patrick Brazil.
19:00 Most civil bmw overtake.
I've just spent 3 weeks in an Actros L demonstrator with the camera mirrors, absolutely not a fan!
Also the SAT NAV is a car SAT not a lorry
hey...i have a MAN TGL....the gear indicator in the dash showing the wrong gear...what can i do about this
Hi sir I'm in South Africa I love your videos I'm always watching them would you please do a of video of an new Volvo truck the one that has no mirror
Them camera mirrors are brilliant as follow trailer when blind side reversing..but when they go wrong your blind😂..luckily i am a ADR driver and them camera mirrors are not allowed.
Why they are not allowed on ADR trucks? I never heard anything about that on my ADR training.
@chrishar110 well i wanted to put maker lights on the front grille sun visor but would cost 600 euro cause has to be special wiring..say camera mirrors adr hazard..while on the road you will see every adr only have glass..
Miss you boss
Need to test the fh areo next should be a real game changer
I’ve said this before but give me proper door mounted mirrors any day of the week…..great videos as always Stavros, nice looking MAN..!!!..⭐️👍
還是傳統後視鏡好，電子式的感覺很快就壞維修成本也高得嚇人
32l of diesel is high consumption Stavros, 510 which i drive is on 27l/28l and could go more down if i use c.c more often
He doesn't make too many motorway miles. He is around a city with a lot of traffic and rush hours runs. Our FH460 Volvos pulling 43-44 tons all the time with 16'3'' high trailers make around 30l/100km on 700km on every shift
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Great review, I really do not like mirror cam systems, you cannot bob your head around to see things, the picture quality is crap and they are extremely expensive to replace if they get smacked and in a job where you are sent down very tight lanes to the back o'beyond that happens alot. Their main advantage is that they eliminate massive blind spots.
hearing you talk about the gearbox just seems to me like an user error. i have the same gearbox and never had any issues with it. even in the last video when u had the 18.520 you were talking about the same stuff. you just have to tap the accelerator once when you come onto a roundabout and it switches gears. when you go down all the way almost to a standstill the truck is not gonna know if u wanna stand still or wanna keep going. so just tap the accelerator and its good. dont just slow down and floor it and then complain about it not knowing what u want to do
Hey stavros doe's Your company have a vacant slot I would like to apply for a driver
The most annoying thing in Scanias is the beeping hill start aid. Now I know there's at least one person in the world who likes it.
Hill assist is annoying by itself. If you try to reverse at a bay and it brakes and disengages suddenly and you hit the bay. This is the third button I push after the engine button and the lane control button.
Hi ! Iam mike from the states the way truck and trailer is set up how weight can it haul.
44 metric tonnes, around 97k pounds.
There’s a delay in them automatic gearboxes that man make … very annoying
With all that tech and the issues you mention, it sounds like it needs plugging into a laptop and given re-boot lol!! 👍💯🇬🇧🛠😂
I think this is a on purpose demo truck for you to switch onto MAN TGX 18.640 😉
hey mate, love your vids but what took you soo long
yeah dude at the past he uploads more than 4 vids per month. but I think he is busy with his deliveries.
well MAN seems to be the new Iveco or Renault regarding the quality and feel of the Interior. I haven´t sit in one of these new MAN but in this video the Interior plastics look incredibly cheap
The black wheels on the steering axel look horrible on the MAN.
You really inspire me❤ From south africa Hope u pay us a visit
Always wondered , what does MAN stand for?
MAN = Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg. Maschinenfabrik = Machine factory.
@@honda900000 👍👍👍👍
Need to dump mirror less cameras. Regular mirrors are far safer, giving real time images, not distorted by computer capabilities or camera spec, we rely too much on tech, sometimes simple is best and cheapest.
Manufacturers make more from the cameras. You can't sell a £50 mirror for £2000, but you can with cameras. Also, you can't replace it your self at the side of the road, you have to pay them.
How come your Name Stavros?ITS a Greek Name or?
Our fleet are man tgx 470 71 plates. Worst trucks ever not as bad as iveco tho. man drop speed on hills with empty trailers. 😂
I hate Ivecos and my company is now replacing the 5 yo FH460 with natural gas Ivecos. Time to search for a new job.
Not a fan of mirror cams, can’t look round them like a glass mirror 😝
Are man kidding me with that f ing cupholder. Wtf.
Never did like painted/powder-coated rims. Doesn't matter how well they do it. It's gonna look like crap in a couple of years.
Camera mirrors are dangerous cause there could be an electrical glitch and the mirrors could go black
Then you can stop, if you get paid per hour you get more money doing nothing at the side of the road waiting for the call out and the tow truck later. Don't ask me how I know that.
@@chrishar110 ok but that's my main point.
@@madanto2394 As I commented at another comment, it's about how transport companies and truck manufactories work and make money. Fuel efficiency and profits from parts.
@@chrishar110 Volvo should just remanufacure the f16 485 & scania the 143m 500. I'm sure it can be done.
@@madanto2394 Why? Newer trucks have many safety and comfort features that F16 and 143 don't have. They have much stronger, smoother, cleaner and more efficient engines and gearboxes, why should we return back to the past? Yes, more reliable, yes, you could fix them at the side of the road, but really? New trucks have many annoying things for the old drivers but that's not a reason to return 30 years back. To be honest, if I see a F16 or a 143 I will smile and remember these good old times, but no, I don't want to return back. I replaced my left knee because I was driving a volvo F89 in the traffic. I don't want any more.
Get rid of all this tech ie camera mirrors auto box ect. What ever happened to just using common sense and driver skills. These companies don’t want drivers they want robots.
Why in the name of god can't anyone of the manufacturer have adblue and the diesel at the same side
Mmhh camera mirrors is a moving computer that carries loads.
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Hard to believe after 20 years they still can't build a good engine or gearbox. Total disregard for they're end users.
Black rims are horrible
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Why bother? If you want a 500hp truck just get a fh iShift.
Truck wheels should never be black.
How so ???
As an owner Driver. When choosing a truck, my main concern is Reliability & fuel economy, and driver comfort in that order. I am now on my third MAN. And to be honest I will not be changing as the MAN gives me all that I require. In your review You made several comments on the lack of Power. I cannot fully agree with your view on this. Yes there are more powerful Trucks out there, but if you drive the MAN using its Torque it will pull as hard as any other Truck with the equal power output. And the fact that I can travel with other more powerful Trucks on European Trips. When we stop after a four hour stint, I bet I am no more than 6 or 7 minutes behind them. What I will agree on is the Camara Mirrors. I would hope that you could speck a truck with proper Mirrors as I am not over keen on them. But maybe it just needs a bit of getting used to.
Like DAFs they feel very slow because they don't rev too high. They program the engine and gearbox to use torque and not power to be more efficient at fuel consumption.
No to camera mirrors and for ever NO to automatic transmission as well,
Can u Review the new volvo Aerox 780HP?
@stavros969 how are you hope all is well ,so am in africa needed to buy used trucks and spare part from there to africa any recommendations
Mirrors every time! Dont like this reinventing the wheel nonsence 🤷