AVOID THESE 9 EPOXY POUR MISTAKES

2020 ж. 11 Ақп.
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  • I've watched quite a few videos on this topic and this is the best. Extra tip - put the resin and hardener bottles into warm water for a few minutes prior to mixing, this greatly reduces bubbles forming!

    @malcolmfairhurst7293@malcolmfairhurst72932 жыл бұрын
    • The best? 🤣 this guy messed every stage up, threw about 10ltr on as a flow coat... then sanded the entire thing back to the first coat🤣🤣🤣😂😂 then you gave totally bogus advice and introduced water into the equation, No!! don't put anything into water with epoxy. If you need to heat epoxy do so by dry means of heat and try to stabilise it so its done over a period of time. Its more important to match the surface you're pouring onto with the epoxy you are pouring on. What do I know though I'm only a 4 decade boat builder who's used probably 30'000-50'000 ton of epoxy over the years and built maybe 150-200 home projects including a 35ft long dining table from a split section of Scottish Oak that sold for £28k. This guy doesn't have a clue and should not have made this vid claiming he did. If his desired finish was wax "brushed" or satin look (ive no idea what exact look this is other than a complete F-up) then a simple feeding in of epoxy on the knots, gaps and greedy bits followed by two thin barrier coats, roughed back with 180 then waxed for whatever reason you'd put wax over epoxy😂 litteraly a 3hr Job. This vid is ridiculous and he's showing the basic stuff that even the entry level epoxy educational vids cover within the first 3 mins. Bogus vid and your praising of this vid is just as bogus.

      @bigduphusaj162@bigduphusaj162 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bigduphusaj162 you stud you! You deserve a trophy. Maybe a masters badge. I bet you have long arms and often pat yourself on the back… 🙄 Great job master!

      @jasoncampbell2559@jasoncampbell2559 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bigduphusaj162 nobody likes an arrogant know-it-all AJ. We can improve our epoxy skills, you can improve your personality skills.

      @etchediniron4249@etchediniron4249 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi guys, I like you and your videos. But am I the only one who finds the last two videos strange? Nothing new, just summaries and time-lapse, but no more current innovations? Come on people, what's wrong with you? If something has happened, just say it. If you need a break, everyone will understand that. However, I only wish you the best and that whatever is going on won't break you.

    @alexgrunauer1424@alexgrunauer14244 жыл бұрын
    • I dont mind that they did these last 2 recap / update videos. Im just glad they have been active, i was honestly worried. Im just glad they at least let us know they are still alive and doing well...i was starting to get worried , but i agree that a little update would be nice. just a little something to let us know whats going on....

      @warrenmichael918@warrenmichael9184 жыл бұрын
  • RE-Runs Really!

    @gregdagg9305@gregdagg93054 жыл бұрын
    • @@jeromek8723 I appreciate that they should take a break through Christmas. I suspect they have some kind of family issue that keeps them from posting, but just a walk around the lake with commentary would be nice.. Hope they just needed a bit of a break, they have been full out with this project now for 4 years. Blessings guys.

      @gregdagg9305@gregdagg93054 жыл бұрын
  • My first epoxy pour ended with me gluing my rolling work bench to the floor. My second epoxy pour was filling the floor to patch the damaged plywood that resulted from freeing the work bench.

    @idonwantella2824@idonwantella2824 Жыл бұрын
  • This was super helpful, thank you! I'm new to epoxy too and am kind of nervous to use it on my projects. But I'm very glad I watched this before I started!

    @rhondaclarke3220@rhondaclarke3220 Жыл бұрын
  • Isn't this just all reused footage? If you guys needed a break why didn't you just say so?

    @MrTynet3@MrTynet34 жыл бұрын
    • What! not obvious enough for you....

      @jedidiah5131@jedidiah51314 жыл бұрын
  • Talk about timing. After watching your videos about building the butcher block, I decided to do the same thing for my kitchen. It turned out awesome. I have not done the epoxy yet; will happen in a couple days. I'm glad you shared this video just in time for my project. Thank you so much.

    @livingthewrightdream9583@livingthewrightdream95834 жыл бұрын
  • Where have you guys been now you're showing us the same stuff?☹

    @babylove7139@babylove71394 жыл бұрын
  • Something is wrong . The last three are rehash of the kitchen build. Maybe it's just a experiment of how many video's can be made out of the same footage.

    @kevinmatthiesen8961@kevinmatthiesen89614 жыл бұрын
    • It seems to me that they might be doing it this way because they don't have anything going on right now. Most likely just living life, but they want to try to get something out to keep their KZhead account going.

      @briankonicki6843@briankonicki68434 жыл бұрын
    • Something is definitely up, they have been absent form all social media platforms from what I can tell

      @shawnbaker9@shawnbaker94 жыл бұрын
    • @@briankonicki6843 If they don't have anything going on, then they could simply say that in a snippet at the start of the video in a vlog style as they have done with a lot of videos. This is rehashed content that is clearly filler for something. Its poor content for the amount of time that's been between everything.

      @Zasaramel@Zasaramel4 жыл бұрын
    • @@Zasaramel that could go against what their contract says with KZhead. They may not want KZhead to know they don't have anything new to post. They are after all still under a contract. They have to create content somehow. At least they have commenting open.

      @briankonicki6843@briankonicki68434 жыл бұрын
    • You honestly think they have a contract with KZhead, you're funny.

      @Tuxedomakdarien@Tuxedomakdarien4 жыл бұрын
  • Your flood coat would have been easier if you put masking tape on the edge to create a barrier. This stops the epoxy from flowing over the edge, and you will not need to scavenge the material. Use your torch to pop bubbles and when your happy with the surface. You pull your tape and the epoxy will flow off the edge. Spread the overflow on the edge to get full coverage. The rest will take care of itself.

    @axlejohnson9156@axlejohnson91563 жыл бұрын
    • you all probably dont care at all but does any of you know of a trick to get back into an Instagram account..? I somehow forgot the login password. I would love any assistance you can offer me!

      @caydengrady8626@caydengrady86262 жыл бұрын
    • @Cayden Grady instablaster ;)

      @demetriusabel947@demetriusabel9472 жыл бұрын
    • Makes sense. Thanks for the tip!

      @ogtb1647@ogtb1647 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve watched a dozen videos and this was by far the best.

    @FLY1NGSQU1RR3L76@FLY1NGSQU1RR3L764 жыл бұрын
  • You could also use sanding sealer .spray it onto the your surface sealing the wood and you would have no problem with dry spots on your first coat of epoxy.

    @1161909@11619092 жыл бұрын
    • THANK YOU! I needed this tip really badly

      @LMCorvinus@LMCorvinus Жыл бұрын
  • I am looking at doing a art piece resin pour with pigments on a piece of oak bench top I brought to be my new desk, I am not a new comer to resin pour, I have done several art projects and every one I have had to sand the underside because I used masking tape. As so many tutorials have recommended, yours is the first video I have seen that advises to you clear packing take and shows how much easier this makes life. THANK YOU! fyi its genius.

    @taniaphillips7217@taniaphillips72173 ай бұрын
  • The top looks great, no doubt about that. I didn't see if you epoxied the bottom side though, if not, wouldn't you be afraid of the wood expanding and contracting and eventually cracking the epoxy? I don't know, never worked with any of this before, so I'm just asking a question.

    @recgar@recgar2 жыл бұрын
  • I always wondered how the epoxy holds up over time. It's really pretty when its new. Looks like you did this video 3 years ago, how is it looking today?

    @jacketpatches@jacketpatches3 ай бұрын
  • Did you kiln dry the wood or was it air dried?

    @7ktimberco@7ktimberco Жыл бұрын
  • Good for you both. You deserve so much credit for building your own home. Great effort.

    @joannrice8359@joannrice8359 Жыл бұрын
  • This is SUPER helpful as I am going to do my first epoxy project! Can you tell me how many coats you did? My project is just for a charcuterie board, lol but still wanna do it right! 👍🏼

    @janavaliton4165@janavaliton4165 Жыл бұрын
  • So same footage for the last three vidoes. Why bother?

    @marcdonnelly9975@marcdonnelly99754 жыл бұрын
    • Theres the door!

      @jedidiah5131@jedidiah51314 жыл бұрын
    • @@jedidiah5131 Which door, Jesse? Air gap door? Or should we go through the french doors? Finish the house already

      @2mustange@2mustange4 жыл бұрын
  • Slow stirring - also helps to prevent inclusion of air bubbles. I guess you could also optimize the pouring to prevent that. Interesting video, btw. Nicely done.

    @jpdj2715@jpdj27154 жыл бұрын
  • I’m preparing to put epoxy resin on a round dining table and three leaves that I’ve just built. Of all the videos on this topic, this one appears to be the best. I’m very worried about keeping the inside edges of the table and leaves clean and the use of packing tape looks to Ephesus a great solution. How long should I wait to remove it? Also, should I remove the tape after the seal coat and re-apply it for the flood coat or simply wait until both coats are on? I’m concerned that when I go to remove the tape it will break off instead of the epoxy.

    @carlpales514@carlpales5143 жыл бұрын
    • Pull your tape while the epoxy is still tacky

      @KMF3@KMF32 жыл бұрын
  • Could you tell What you used prior to epoxy. Stain?

    @andreasalazar2020@andreasalazar2020 Жыл бұрын
  • That turned out beautiful! Thanks for the tips!

    @joshuabray37@joshuabray372 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for making this. Great info!

    @amyreaves2166@amyreaves21662 жыл бұрын
  • Hi I have a question Does the epoxy covers yellow spots on wood.? Thank you

    @aferditaplakaj7152@aferditaplakaj71522 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the video. I would love to see more detail on how you got the matte finish.

    @nancyratcliff7412@nancyratcliff74123 жыл бұрын
    • Just wet sand it with 600 grit. Wipe off the slurry with mineral spirits and paper towel. Boom. Done.

      @drfutato@drfutato2 жыл бұрын
  • hey i got a question, is it possible to put resin on top of varnish?

    @edwingomez7158@edwingomez7158 Жыл бұрын
  • Tip 10; wear gloves. And long sleeves. And ventilate your space. You are working with chemicals, treat them with respect

    @TheHkluivert@TheHkluivert3 жыл бұрын
  • I have pits in the second seal coat. What would cause that?

    @boblab@boblab6 ай бұрын
  • THANKS! Excellent for this DIY newcomer.

    @bruceross102@bruceross1026 күн бұрын
  • Very helpful information! thank you!

    @tildajarocki9698@tildajarocki9698 Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the epoxy dyi hints.

    @m.e.9974@m.e.99743 ай бұрын
  • Can I use a spray laquer on the wood as a base coat? My problem is I only have enough epoxy for 4 square feet and I'm way to far in the bush to go get more.

    @sherishmacdonald6894@sherishmacdonald68942 жыл бұрын
  • How much are you mixing at a time to pour the whole top?

    @Seeds-Of-The-Wayside@Seeds-Of-The-Wayside Жыл бұрын
  • You will find in the end that epoxy finishes are the worst error in finishing you will ever encounter. They do not wear well and any heat, even the heat from a hot bowl of soup placed on an epoxy top will soften and distort the finish. Epoxy is super expensive, time consuming to apply, messy and all show at the start with no go in the end. You can purchase a butcher block patterned top for next to nothing made of Formica which is nearly indestructible and will last for decades. In a year or two you will look back and say, "What was I thinking?"

    @EdOfTheNorth@EdOfTheNorth4 жыл бұрын
  • excellent info.. thank you!

    @gaston.@gaston.2 жыл бұрын
  • Hey thank you so much for those tips

    @raulopatriot9034@raulopatriot90345 ай бұрын
  • So satisfying to watch and informative. Awesome vid.

    @peter-radiantpipes2800@peter-radiantpipes28002 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this amazing information!

    @hallpros@hallpros3 ай бұрын
  • What if you pull the tape off before it's fully dry will it make for a sharper edge?

    @buckyflex1@buckyflex1 Жыл бұрын
  • I'd recommend using a 1/4 inch notched trowel to spread out the epoxy instead of using a straight edged applicator. This will help ensure the epoxy thickness is similar everywhere and when you quickly repeat spreading the epoxy, you will also be mixing and re-mixing the epoxy while you are applying it.

    @GaryMarkowski@GaryMarkowski Жыл бұрын
    • Ohh he needs a lot more advice than that😂 dude sanded back his last 2 coats and a heafty barrier coat to basically the first coat.. then brushed it and threw wax on hahahahaha. Guy basically applied about 15ltr of epoxy then sanded it all off to get a finish that could be done within 3hr. Embarrassing

      @bigduphusaj162@bigduphusaj162 Жыл бұрын
  • OP, can you tell me what epoxy you used for your flood coat?

    @lawrencecrawford5834@lawrencecrawford58342 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for posting this. Very informative. 🙂

    @anthonyjordan2922@anthonyjordan2922 Жыл бұрын
  • We have a table we painted white, then sealed with clear epoxy. Question is, do we really need to sand before the flood coat? My concern is that the sanding marks will show through the topcoat because it is clear. Or, will another coat of clear cover the scratches from the sanding? I know I should have used white epoxy first.

    @user-ck2on3gc8q@user-ck2on3gc8q10 ай бұрын
  • Awesome. Looks great. thanks for the tips.

    @Wayne-fe1ed@Wayne-fe1ed Жыл бұрын
  • Very helpful. Thanks!

    @Alicia-yd3zn@Alicia-yd3zn2 жыл бұрын
  • Tips start @ 2:55

    @UnframeofMind@UnframeofMind8 ай бұрын
  • THANK YOU!

    @mrs.robinson-lotus@mrs.robinson-lotus Жыл бұрын
  • Did the first coat dry before the flood coat?

    @iamphillipnorth9810@iamphillipnorth98103 жыл бұрын
  • Nice! Thanks!!

    @samariagraham4502@samariagraham45028 ай бұрын
  • I like all of your videos and all the great work you both have done on your place It's coming along great .

    @dalejohnson5148@dalejohnson51484 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this

    @breakingkov9393@breakingkov9393 Жыл бұрын
  • Hello there, thanks for sharing 😊 I want to try myself. I appreciate you guys for making this video. How’s the house 🏠?

    @glow4214@glow42142 жыл бұрын
  • Man, you did an Awsome job at keeping to the point and being honest!! 😊🥇🌻

    @Studio57production@Studio57production2 жыл бұрын
  • Is this epoxy hard enough to write on with out leaving marks ?

    @mrgcav@mrgcav Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing!

    @lkayh@lkayh2 жыл бұрын
  • Great to see a video. Wanting to see more. Missing the build of pure living for life. Hope this is the start of the videos. Don't wait so long.

    @pansyjordan5508@pansyjordan55084 жыл бұрын
  • This is super helpful!!

    @zygardecomplete3654@zygardecomplete36543 жыл бұрын
  • Ur presentation is simply awesome. 💯

    @ankitshukla6833@ankitshukla68332 жыл бұрын
  • You need wax to protect the epoxy?

    @carstenhilbert5472@carstenhilbert54725 ай бұрын
  • Great tips. Thanks

    @ifferl8781@ifferl87812 жыл бұрын
  • How would you do a long top w/ a field joint?

    @WhatHappensIfIDoThis@WhatHappensIfIDoThis2 жыл бұрын
  • More click bait!

    @junelljohnh6981@junelljohnh69814 жыл бұрын
  • Welcome back. Nice to see you are back posting videos. I have used epoxy in the marine and aviation settings, counter tops would be new for me. But I did do a water proof desktop. I put a 6 oz. fiberglass cloth down to get at least a 15 mil film thickness. Then built up from there for a nice sheen. A heatgun works very well to get rid of the bubbles, all you are doing is heating the surface to make it more viscous so the surface tension is reduced therefore causing the bubbles to pop. Another trick is put the mixed epoxy in a vacuum chamber and draw a vacuum therefore removing the bubbles from the epoxy. Paint pots make good vacuum chambers for doing this.

    @krissfemmpaws1029@krissfemmpaws10294 жыл бұрын
  • hey guys, I have a question: you mentioned that the epoxy wont stick to that clear tape. I would like to do a table, put a tons of stickers all over and then seal it with epoxy. No I am wondering if it is going to work. I just sended the table, now i am planning to paint it, then put the stickers on and then coat it with epoxy. Will this work? thanks

    @charliebognar5276@charliebognar52762 жыл бұрын
  • Another rerun...Somethings wrong. I hope your ok

    @007thetube@007thetube4 жыл бұрын
  • Haha, carnauba wax to "protect" epoxy

    @kylejacobs1247@kylejacobs12474 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly!!! Puts epoxy on table top, gets it completely finished and looking as it should.......... then BAM! We decided to sand it off with a fine grit sandpaper Lolol like why even go through the trouble.

      @treeshaker3979@treeshaker39792 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, the "Big Guys" use wax too, so...

      @LongWalkerActual@LongWalkerActual2 жыл бұрын
  • Oh look old footage again! I understand you guys may need a break for whatever reason...but don't you think you owe the viewers an explanation of why you have been MIA for so long!?

    @shawnbaker9@shawnbaker94 жыл бұрын
  • How many coats of carnauba wax?

    @adamkorekach9936@adamkorekach9936 Жыл бұрын
  • Many many thanks. Subscribed.

    @victorygah@victorygah Жыл бұрын
  • using a drill mixer has always given me a fully mixed container - i always make sure to run the mixing attachment up and down and all around the sides and completely along the bottom a few times to be sure but it eliminates epoxy sticking the large surface area of a flat stirring stick. Downside is it introduces a lot more air into the mix which isn't a problem if you have a vacuum chamber or you are doing a deep pour and can let the mix sit for 45 minutes before pouring to allow all the air bubbles to come up to the surface - but definitely can't do this with a table deep (shallow pour) epoxy mix that only has 15-20 minutes of working time.

    @davidkeetz@davidkeetz2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for the video

      @tonyguidry1388@tonyguidry1388 Жыл бұрын
  • [ YES YOU ARE BACK ] I missed your video of your journey from the old ford and caravan pulling up to all you have done come a long way and got to go a long way yet . [ THANK YOY FOR SHARING YOUR JOURNEY WITH AS ]

    @daviddove4851@daviddove48514 жыл бұрын
  • You sand between coats?

    @metatronmen2431@metatronmen2431 Жыл бұрын
  • Love this

    @naptownsfinest2345@naptownsfinest23454 жыл бұрын
  • I've been with you since you salvaged the corrugated tin roof off of the old "barn" that would soon be torn down. Thank you for taking us on the journey with you.

    @robertrogish1038@robertrogish10384 жыл бұрын
  • Hey guys ... What have you two been up to this winter? Oh and enjoyed the video as much as the first.

    @Eric-gi9kg@Eric-gi9kg4 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic

    @mariamaria-oi2cs@mariamaria-oi2cs2 жыл бұрын
  • Question: I get wanting to salvage expensive overflow epoxy, but aren't you reintroducing some contaminants that may have run off with it on its first pass? Wood particles, dust, hair strand, etc...

    @harbingeroffate9959@harbingeroffate99592 жыл бұрын
    • yeah but it's gonna be here anyway

      @Nico336@Nico3362 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing video thanks guys

    @Mustafa-dm5co@Mustafa-dm5co Жыл бұрын
  • Thank u

    @Biker65@Biker653 жыл бұрын
  • I've used a blow dryer and while it took out the bubbles it blew dust on it!

    @natecote1971@natecote1971 Жыл бұрын
  • Yay! Been missing you guys, glad to see you back, hope all is well, and looking forward to updates. Thanks Jesse and Alyssa, I appreciate you :)

    @heathersullivan7294@heathersullivan72944 жыл бұрын
  • Bravo to hard (easily frustrating) work... The finished product is simply amazing. I have a butcher block cutting board that's going (strong) on 50yrs, so done right, durability will last for years... My dream kitchen would have any and all countertops butcher block. Miss you guys hope and prayers y'all are well💜 ☮️💜😊

    @cincitycindy7691@cincitycindy76914 жыл бұрын
  • Put plastic down instead of newspapers. wear gloves, don't scrape out the last bit of epoxy of the bucket. it could be not mixed correctly so best to leave it in the bucket. use a propane torch to eliminate bubbles by fanning above the surface. mix it till your arm is sore. then it's mixed. I've used epoxy for 25 years.

    @deroux@deroux4 жыл бұрын
    • torching is outdated :)

      @wintilator9595@wintilator95954 жыл бұрын
    • Did you actually watch the video? That was what they did. Those tips were the entire point of the video.

      @martinw245@martinw2454 жыл бұрын
    • @@martinw245 I did watch the video. He got most of it right.

      @deroux@deroux4 жыл бұрын
  • It is good that you went back to the butcher block top and explain what your mistakes were so everyone that watches you that are planning on a project just like yours can do it correctly. I still say Jesse you would make a good educator. God Bless you and Alyssa.

    @ernabueing4250@ernabueing42504 жыл бұрын
  • yep, using the iphone timer to get the mixing times correct. 6 minutes , then a 2nd 6 minutes, then 15 mins to apply before hardening.

    @notthatbadtoday@notthatbadtoday Жыл бұрын
  • Why didnt you use polyurethane on wood? Kind of wasteful using expensive epoxy (clear at that) on a butcherblock. Several coats of "wipe on poly" would work great and keep some of the natural grain pattern.

    @PauIieWalnuts@PauIieWalnuts4 жыл бұрын
  • Did you pretreatment the wood?

    @jollyjrog3r@jollyjrog3r2 жыл бұрын
  • I've been mixing epoxy at multiple jobs for over a decade and have never seen anyone use two containers to mix it nor have I ever had that problem. You're definitely not mixing it well enough

    @BrokedDownPalace@BrokedDownPalace3 жыл бұрын
    • actually the two container method was a solution it soft spots and is gaining popularity among the do it yourself market, that bigger than the professional market

      @robertbolding4182@robertbolding41822 жыл бұрын
  • Grasping...

    @adamk4160@adamk41604 жыл бұрын
    • Theres the door!

      @jedidiah5131@jedidiah51314 жыл бұрын
  • After watching this, I'm guessing you will opt for concrete countertops upstairs?

    @williampachol5194@williampachol51944 жыл бұрын
    • William Pachol lol I don’t know if they’ll built it themselves if they don’t

      @erik365365365@erik3653653654 жыл бұрын
  • Again, again and again the same old BS!!!!!!

    @paulalbisser1436@paulalbisser14364 жыл бұрын
  • I absolutely love the idea of doing all this work yourself. Do you need building permits or foresee any problem selling the property if that ever happens? I’m a new homeowner and new to this kinda stuff.

    @soccermommyNPC@soccermommyNPC2 жыл бұрын
    • I'd assume you may need permits but there are some areas that don't require pulling permits, especially in the country areas. I could be wrong but my dad said they never pulled permits in the boonies. In cities for sure, you have to pull a permit to redo a bathroom or sometimes to even dismantle a deck. Some of it is a money grab but most of it's for safety reasons. I've been on jobs with my dad that homeowners have done and clearly just winged it, some very sketchy, not up to code stuff.

      @tristenb7723@tristenb77232 жыл бұрын
    • Buddy..building permits are a complete joke

      @maxout666@maxout666 Жыл бұрын
  • At 1:14 in the video what app where you all using?

    @jaredbaucom2295@jaredbaucom22952 жыл бұрын
  • A roller to spread epoxy they used on my counter tops

    @markpauley6219@markpauley62192 жыл бұрын
  • Ohh and use rollers to push the epoxy about hence then u get smoothness when u have enough epoxy on your surface

    @dj2574@dj25744 жыл бұрын
    • i like my epoxy pushed by hand. using gloves of course but still

      @wintilator9595@wintilator95954 жыл бұрын
  • What is the sound in the background at 8:10?

    @ritam6173@ritam61732 жыл бұрын
  • A Cookout tip, same as your dropcloth or shower curtain with 2x sides fill with ice and guest have a place to put cold food, remove one end to drain.

    @markclark787@markclark7874 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Jesse hey Alyssa thank you for the video very educational I definitely want to work with a foxy down the road in in my whole entire lock cabin house with epoxy but I don't know if I'm going to be able to do that now because watching your video it is very difficult to work with it

    @scottt8424@scottt84244 жыл бұрын
  • There is one thing i don't get. Why pouring epoxy when it is not to fill a "void" but to put on a "thin" layer. My dad always painted it on with a roler and he always had a perfect finish wihout the mess... I don't see anny difference.... He always did multiple layers on the decks of our small competition boats and it always looked perfect. And from what i learned is that you should to the underside too to prevent warping.

    @deborahmeijer9697@deborahmeijer96974 жыл бұрын
    • mainly because they have no idea what they are doing. They are not driving instructors, we are watching the multi car pile-up...

      @Wards_Art_Glass@Wards_Art_Glass4 жыл бұрын
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