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I never noticed just how numbed I was to the stupidity of the FNAF lore until Ludwig was asking questions like "why is bro upset about Freddy's reopening when he murdered 5 kids" lmao
3:26 Almost shutdown too, sanitation
Yeah fr LMAO
aint really stupid tho makes sense for the character
@@carlsoll the sanitation issues were actually complaints about the rotten odor of the animatronics after Afton stuffed the kids in there. Here's the excerpt: Local pizzaria threatened with shutdown over sanitation. Local pizzaria, Freddy-Fazbear’s Pizza has been threatened again with shutdown by the health department over reports of foul odor coming from the much-loved animal mascots. Police were contacted when parents reportedly noticed what appeared to be blood and mucus around the eyes and mouths of the mascots. One parent alikened them to “reanimated carcasses”.
Was it stupid? Yes, but it's our stupid. And we'll watch and learn regardless.
Henry: AITA for kicking my partner out of our company because he killed my daughter
YTA because you still put your partner out of work and that's not cool /s
BonnieBuddy1987: YTA all the evidence you have is circumstantial as hell and I assume your business partner is like super cool and maybe would stop if you apologized to him about something...
YTA, hes a nice shade of purple
NTA: you dropped the hardest speech in history
whats yta?
i like how "Why are they british?" is the biggest question not even matpat can answer
Well I mean, Aren't Americans just British but with extra steps. Also they could just leave The isles for the Mile loving, Star Spangling, Destiny Manifesting country that is the USA
@@worminaroundI think what he meant was "Why do they have a british accent, including the kids, when they've been living in the US ever since the great depression?", which is a valid question to ask. Ludwig's brother from another mother, cdawgva, lost his heavy welsh accent just a couple years of living away from wales. That's why it's weird how thick the characters' british accents are considering how long they've been living in the US according to the lore.
@idiosyncrasy7703 Afton family's fucked up, he could've intentionally trained himself to keep the accent and disciplined his kids to do the same to keep up appearances or something idk. Then again most of FNAF lore is really just filling in the blanks with something you have no evidence for
you guys think too hard. scott said they were british because he thought it sounded cool
I assumed that the wife was British so the kids had a bit of a British accent
Lud being rly into it at first and then losing it as time goes on is just how I feel on fnaf lore
I think most people that have been here since the beginning feel like that. This franchise has a way of wearing you out
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@@LunarisFN Imma head over, dislike and immediately leave to screw up your retention.
It was good wwhen it was just some crazy guy fucking around and getting haunted. Then they braught in remnants, vr possession and shit. It got lost in its own sauce. So now anyone who cares about it just likes the cool murder robots.
@@kc759 Remnant was a thing long ago. VR possessions only happened during/after Help Wanted 1. Which marks the beginning of the second era of FNAF. You may not like the narrative it took, and I definitely got fed up because William's story didnt end at UCN, but its still interesting in its own right.
In summary, kids go bye bye, robot's go har har.
This had me har-ing
Best comment I've seen
har har harhar har🐻
Xd this made me chuckle 🤭
@@alecksjrTOREADOR
It always fun to see people jump into the FNAF rabbit hole and then realize that the hole has no bottom and goes on forever
"wee!!" [20 mins of terminal velocity later] "hey should we have gotten a parachute"
I guess it really is a *rabbit* hole …get it? cuz uhhh, the Afton’s and like y’know bonnie so ummm
Every time you think you reach the bottom you realize the bottom is actually a hallucination induced by kidnapping animatronics so Scott can make more money
It's just dumb
@@erops7933it is, and we love that
Everyone in this series either lives until they're 100, or dies at 10
People in the medieval times be like
Once you turn eleven you’re invincible until you’re 100
@@Duckyyew SO basically Gregory
it really can go from "why does he not care to come home even when his kid dies" to *"why is this dude purple"*
Ayo, why he ourple?
and then "how did she learn making a human robot in her 90s"
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@@dumflame Because the background for the minigames, which was made as DOS-like is black. It would be hard storytelling wise if Afton is black and the background is black. If you're going to ask why not beige or whatever color, it would be confusing if there's 2 person with the same color. However, if you ask why is purple guy orange in one of the mini games, I don't know. Nobody really can give a convincing idea to me except that that is not purple guy... because orange is not purple.
@@konaqua122 i think he's orange normally and purple is just his work clothing
Ludwig having personal beef with William afton is so funny to me💀
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To be fair I also fucking lost it when his kid died, he had a drinking problem, his family was falling apart and he thought to himself: That damn Henry guy stole muh bear
@@skittleboi1193 what i took from this vid was that William is somehow even more annoying and shitty than I originally thought
Real
@@skittleboi1193 Again: he was *drunk.*
some of the chat not getting "was that the bite of 87?!?!?" meme and correcting them has to be the most funniest and frustrating thing
@@JianCB2that's cause markiplier said that during the bite of 83....
@@JianCB2thats the joke😭
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no one cares@@LunarisFN
@@JianCB2 that's literally the joke
I love how someone in chat said "MatPat makes the lore seem so random and complicated" IT'S FNAF LORE, IT IS RANDOM AND COMPLICATED
He adds a X10 modifier for the sake of a narrative, even when we don’t have the full story yet.
@@jonstrunonbro1169 He makes theories, not "a retelling of the complete story that has been 100% confirmed to be correct's"
@@YMilkshake His "timeline" literally is a retelling with made up motiviations and stuff for a narrative. It's a better story but it's not accurate to the games, and it's not a theory supported by evidence.
@@Cruxin It's almost like the story is ever evolving and most of it just gets made up to fit the lore of the newest fnaf game instead of the lore being prewritten and the games being made around that...
@@Cruxin to be fair if you're starting to get into fnaf lore do not watch Matpats timeline videos first. You would only be more confused.
that one chatter "You"re 28?! I thought you were 40" lol
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@@LunarisFNbot
the story really got wild after freddy started reviving people 💀
i stopped paying attention after 2015 this is wild to me
Happy 10th birthday little guy💀
Nah man that was spring trap, and the puppet was the one who gave life to suits. Actually Freddy's a fucking bum in the story and is surpassed by his golden counterpart a hundred times over.
@@Elephantsaresupreme calling a dead child a bum is crazy
@@envycollarit’s a group of pixels not a real dead child lil bro
I'm 25, and I know... SO MUCH about FNaF. Crazy how thin that age line was.
Tbh I’m 23 and I knew nothing about fnaf before this
I'm a minor and I didn't know a single thing about fnaf before watching this video so clearly something's off here
im 20 and i have no idea about fnaf until this lmfao
I'm 84 and wet myself when I sneeze
you type like you're 25
It's kinda nuts to imagine that there's an alternate universe out there, where instead of FNAF, Matpat could have been an instigator to make Slenderman a much more well known character than he already is. Heck, we could have an actual good Slenderman movie.
Are you saying we have a hood FNAF movie in our universe? 😂
@tominieminen66 Well we have Night Five in our universe, which is a pretty decent low budget indie fan film, better than the official movie at least. We've NEVER gotten a good full-length cinematic Slenderman movie (if you exclude Marble Hornets)
@@tominieminen66listen it wasn’t like good, but it was a great time
Somewhere Slenderman is making KZhead videos about the cult hit five nights with MatPat
slenderman IS well known :( hes my friend :)
“We’ve got Matpat at home” Matpat at home:
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@@LunarisFN shut the f up how many times u gonna say this
@@LunarisFN shut up
College Ludwig: I was doing real life things not playing video games Also College Ludwig: *plays smash tourneys*
“You know, they used to call me the drift king.”
This is so unrelated
@@ChalkMan botted accounts
@@KiroshiZerobut it is related, the main comment was about the intro to the video, and the “drift king” one is a reference to what RT game says about his college days.
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Well see your first mistake was deciding to drop yourself into this rabbit hole, and you second mistake was trying to figure out what the hell this game is about because we don't even know anymore as FNAF fans
poor choice of words, i'm sure many fnaf fans would like to go down rabbit holes
@@shradibopvanny 🥵
@@shradibop nah thats crazy
@@retorikhal NAHHHHH
I forgot who pointed it out but FNAF is more like a shotgun of lores and whatever sticks, that's the route they would run. So, even the devs, even Scott Cawthon doesn't really know the lore. Scott know the lore only until FNAF 4 when he decided to end it.... But the fans would get mad so he didn't. So, even him doesn't know what the real lore is at this point.
Family literally too angry at each other to die, complications ensue
LMFAOOOO
I think alot of people forget that Wendigoon's version miss alot on details, and relies on old theories alot too, sure Matpat's 4th Part of the Timeline was wrong, but his entire story was mostly correct.
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More people should watch gibi's good Bad idea's (thats the channels name) timeline, it's really good
Also that W guy uses a name he shouldnt use for his channel name since it based off of something sacred
@@doctorrussiacannibal demon funny
@@doctorrussia You do know that wendigoon is of Cherokee descent right?¿
Blud is falling into a springlock suit and is NOT leaving
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Underrated comment, thoroughly.
The fact that this video is an hour long even after editing shows you how much lore there is.
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Even then this is all summarized lore, if someone were to put all the lore down written down it would probably be the size of the Bible💀
@@Jeremy-bt8lodidn’t reddit do that and it was so long? Idk how many pages it was but it was loooonnnnggggh
@@Jeremy-bt8lothere's an 8 hour long video of every game lore and it's pretty complete
@@Jeremy-bt8lo That and it still has a ton of holes around everywhere in the timeline.
I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of seeing people react to fnaf lore with little to no knowledge before hand. Im in too deep so newcomers ask basic questions and im always like wait I never thought of that
I love how Ludwig actually got into a call with MatPat at the end 😂👌
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Whats so funny about it is FNAF started as a great story. Then it seemed like after they kept having to find new ways to shoe-horn in more animatronics and more games, things just went wacky. It's not spooky-goofy anymore. It's just 100% goof.
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Being goofy isn’t a bad thing though…
@ultraguardiansev465 you're right. Although I would argue that going from "goofy-scary" to just "goofy", or even arguably "cringy-goofy" is a pretty big downgrade... Just my take though- I think FNAF has proven itself to be hot garbage... and also has proven that videogames can "Jump the Shark" just as easily as Television can.
@@ultraguardiansev465if you're making horror games it is
The story should've ended with pizzeria simulator with ultimate custom night as an epilouge.
Watching Lud see a video that distinctly keeps the Bite of ‘83 and the Bite of ‘87 separated and STILL mixes them up in his retelling says more about how confusing that shit is than anything else
51:17 “the kids were raised in like Utah and they sound British” *Looks at Wilbur Soot*
Ok admittedly that’s kinda funny
He'd certainly know a thing or two about the bite of '87.
@@bunni2583 okay, now THAT’S kinda funny
Utah have the highest British American population by percentage out of any state.
This didn't age well 😂
I never watched pizzeria simulator but that ending is some of the hardest shit in the franchise, "for one of you the darkest pit of hell has opened up, so don't keep the devil waiting old friend" is so dope! I sorta wish a little bit that afton didn't survive that fire, it's such a cool ending, but I also love security breaches ending so much so it's fine!
Oh well, he didn’t. He is still in hell. The mimic solves that issue for you.
Ludwig getting lower and lower in his chair around 22:10 is so fucking funny, it’s how I feel every time I go through this game’s lore
I think fnaf is a fascinating example of an author altering their story because people figured it out. In a way MatPat cowrote fnaf
Matt pat and Scott cawthon both said that happened exactly once, otherwise everything has been planned out many years in advance. But mattpat definitely had a huge impact on the future of fnaf
Mattpat's first lore video on Fnaf is exactly why most media/people put the disclaimer that people and events are pure coincidence 😂
funfact if Afton was a teenager when he went to the singing bear show as a child lets say 15, and his wife is the same age as him that makes her y'know 130.
even of she was younger it still doesn't make semse bc it puts her over 100 years old
@@charlesnojinson4760 Given the capabilities of Faz-tech, a little bit of life extension's pretty trivial.
This entire stream made me learn more about fnaf lore than my 10+ years of school
your school teaches fnaf lore?
I took AP FNAF lore and got a A+, sounds like a skill issue
I would hope so
you can't go to a FNAF university with an education from youtube though
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IMO The lore should of ended after Pizza Sim's ending 🗣
Bro with the coldest take in the world
literally @@squigglybusiness7131
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@@neverknowsbest9486 I agree they’re great gameplay wise, but the lore should be put to rest after that ending. Nothing makes much sense anymore it just feels like they’re trying too hard to keep the lore alive when it was good the way it was when it “ended”
@@neverknowsbest9486 I love new games coming out, but it would be great to maybe see new lore or something different as Fnaf has so much potential for new things
I had never quite appreciated how fucking good Matpat is as a storyteller.
14:36 the fact that Lud made the same face Mark did when he first saw that part omg 😂
Ah yes, a good use of Luddie's English Degree 🤣
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One thing I never understood about Afton was the fact that he loved killing children so much that he became a cartoonish rated R villain. But the fact that just because his own kids were made by the splooge in his balls made it so that he loved them more than any other child or person.
Narcissists tend to see their children as an extension of themselves, so in their mind, their children are closer to being perfect than the rest of the world, if that makes sense?
That’s how a lot criminals against children work, cause their kids are “special” and a part of them, therefore an exception
Generally that is how emotional attachment works.
That's actually super common with real life serial killers. Still wild tho
Exactly what I was thinking. Many child unalivers, harmers, etc have children but don’t harm their own.
Him calling matpat at the end was the best ending we could've gotten
to me the story had a perfect ending with henry burning everything and letting everyone move on in fnaf6. ive never really considered anything past that canon myself. i just think william coming back again really ruins all the sacrifice to get to that point through the main 6 games, yknow? still fun to watch matpat put it all together tho as batshit as it is haha
POV it's 2:39am and I refreshed YT before going to bed.
Same
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i used to watch theories way back when they were first coming out, but looking back now this game's story is some hot ass
Fr I stopped watching them like 6 years ago and was out of the loop and now watch ing this entire recap im like wtf is this
as soon as Matpats first fnaf theory was pulled up, I knew this was gonna be one hell of a ride
I love how he's questioning the pettiness of Henry Afton while also not questioning the actual murder where a guy killed five people over losing his job at Chuck E Cheese
Ludwig the type of guy to release a 54 minute FNAF lore video that's not even about FNAF lore
Well what’s it about then?
@@itsbart4618 MatPat's "utlimate timeline" includes most of the real relevant lore events but also a lot of, basically, fanfiction. Making it an actual story where Scott didn't. It's a better story, but not really accurate. For example, literally all the rambling about William being so devoted to the bear animatronic concepts, that Ludwig made fun of, isn't really real FNAF canon. It's just not explained.
I’ll take the explanation of the guy that has been binging FNAF for 10 fucking years over analyzing everything. MatPat singlehandedly carrier the Lore and I’m pretty sure Scott may have directed the story to some extent bc of Mats theories.
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I remember doing this exact things before Security Breach dropped just so I can get a refresher on everything that happened
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This is great but it's not 9 hours of bionicle lore
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Where can I watch 9 hours of Bionicle lore? Need this in my life
there is a 8.5 hour fnaf lore video (its also miles better than Matpats ultimate timeline)
@@aaronymous9theres a 9 hour video, saw this guy with big hands who likes coffee watched it on stream a while back
While the Afton's having British accents doesn't make sense from a lore perspective, it was probably done so that when you hear someone with a British accent, you know they are a member of the Afton family.
1:02 the playlist has 67 videos LMAO
i caught up a few years ago when there were maybe 50- 60 and binged them in a summer week lol
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@@Teksnek42same!! 😂
In wanna thanks Matpat for teaching me the FNAF lore, FNAF wouldn’t be the same without Matpat
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I want to blame Matpat for teaching me the FNAF lore. My life would've been much healthier if I didn't know that.
It’s crazy to go back and see the first FNAF theory by Matpat to the most recent one is insane
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30:46 - As an American with British heritage, I know the reason as to why they are British. Their last name, Afton, originates from the Isle of Wight, which is an island located on the English Channel making the whole family British. This means that William Afton's parents, had to have been immigrated to the USA before 1930s [from MatPat's theory] due to WWII's London bombing despite that was in the 1940s. This also means that during the immigration, William Afton kept his English/British accent since childhood, which means his kids [despite born American] all have English accents.
bro when Ludwig called Cassidy Henry's son i actually paused the video, took a deep breath and then continued the video again LOL
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not that deep lil bro
mood 😂
@@brodiemorris2081 true
corny as hell
Before william afton was the "i always come back" guy, he was the "i always british" guy, his accent persisted much like his soul, through sheer will power
Honestly, the matpat lore recap is probably closer to fanfiction than the real story, but fanfiction's cool so wherever
I will forever be impressed with Ludwig’s information retention in the span of just a few hours
in short "billy likes bears, billy kills kids, billy burns" done
21:44 Never in a million years would I thought I’d hear a parallel hypothetical between Aiden “Aimen” Calvin and William Afton.
If anything, Aiden is more like Henry Emily. "Yeah I think he killed my daughter but I don't know, maybe he was having a rough day. He's still a good guy probably."
I wasn't expecting the end to be that wholesome! I'll miss MatPat
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"and then i stopped understanding from there because i got annoyed" thats so fucking real
It was actually the second video that kicked off the lore craze, the first one was more in line with what a lot of the Game Theory videos were like at the time
i guess this really was our five nights at freddys
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Ludwig's goofy proud smile at 50:39 made it worth it.
I had forgotten that the original theory had to do with a real life murder case. Crazy how far we've come since then. Also how wild is it that it's almost 10 years since FNAF came out.
That's only part of the theory, the other part is basically the plot of UCN.
I think we should all agree that “but I make bunny!” Is now a canon line for william
The fact Ludwig learned the best he could through MatPat is so wholesome. ❤
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patmat finding a homicide case that coincidentally has 5 victims and happened at a restaurant and putting that shit in a fnaf video is WILD my brain deleted that part after i watched the video
My main problem with the Afton's wife theory is that shes gonna be like 140 years old when the pizzaplex is a thing
"Even if you put a spirit inside of him, he's going to come out and just start saying slurs." LMAOOOO. Please the reactions 😭
Anyone here Post-MatPat? Its only been 2 weeks and i already miss him
😢
The worst part by far about FNAF lore is the “fans” who scream about how wrong or inaccurate any little thing is as if anyone cares
That first video does not hold up, but damn is it iconic.
I avoided Fnaf lore like the plague. Ludwig reacting to it is the only acceptable format im gonna watch.
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metal gear lore is a whole other story
I wish I did, been in this fanbase since I was EIGHT now I’m becoming an adult
I'm glad you called your chat out for telling you to watch videos from other people, the whole point was to honor him leaving lmao Edit: most likes I've had on any comment thanks! I didn't know he's been planning this for a while so I'm sure it wasn't necessary because he was leaving or anything, but I'm glad he chose him!
nope hes had this idea for a while before matpat announced anything he just watched it through game theory since matpat already gave him permission months ago:)
@@RicVis chat is still cringe tho
chat also kept begging for the markiplier bite of 87 meme lmaoo someone said "markiplier clip pls watch it, it's 10 seconds and very important" 😂
@@RicVis I still feel like it was timed just for the situation though, but it's hilarious that luds been planning a fnaf lore dump stream 😂
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Ludwig should repeat this but with the hundreds of hours worth of soul’s games lore
That conversation with MatPat at the end was kinda wholesome :D
Thank you Ludwig, my favorite fnaf youtuber
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50:43 hes so proud of himself 🥺
"Why are there construction workers outside?" "Ah, it's the neighbors." That made me laugh a little more than it should have
47:25 "And then someone else yoinked and twisted it, and that guy's name is Henry Emily" I wonder who Ludwig's favorite FNAF character is 😛
28....😬 the dementia only gets worse from here
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dude’s an absolute oldhead 👴🏻
25:25 Now, in theory, she'll be fine, so long as Afton's punctual with checking her. 26:10 Plot twist, it's in the suits. 30:00 If I recall correctly, he was missing when she died. 34:40 I feel like he would have suffered a critical break, at some point.
34:50 "The Robot spaghetti that once violated his body" was not a sentence I thought I would ever hear 😭
I do find it funny how nobody has compared the STEEL WOOL and Silver Parsol games together, and how the new Faz bears makes toys that we literally have in real life
love that MatPat is doing some Kendrick Lamar adlibs in the middle of Lud's review/rant
Please do more lore videos. Love the long form format.
well the ending of matpat retiring in peace and ludwig taking over didnt age well. i would like to see ludwig take over tbh
I like how MatPat will say something like a dying burned man is being kept alive by a vengeful ghost child and I’m just like “of course it makes so much sense”
No fire actually destroys remnant, it's the agony that lingers!
Getting the restaurant for sanitation is like the IRS getting Escobar for tax evasion
Ludwig saying William Afton is 99% petty 1% stupid is so fucking funny like he's caught on so quick
The way MatPat single handedly started the FNAF lore for funsies off a coincidentally similar story is wild
I love watching newbies learn the fnaf lore, seeing them go insane with this franchise is hilarious
I watched the stream for this while in bed sick with COVID. Put a whole new meaning to fever dream
I binged all of these that were out a few years ago too, fun as hell time, I'm not fully up to date on the lore tho since I wanna watch ruin gameplay before the ruin theories and I haven't gotten around to that yet but anything up to fnaf ruin I'm up to date on and even tho I'm not into the games (exept for SB, I watched like 7 playthroughs of that game because it's AWESOME) it's been rlly fun casually keeping up with the lore through game theory. i know these videos aren't the be all end all but for someone whos not at all in the fandom they're mostly a nice summary of popular (and sadly sometimes a breeding ground for infamous) theories.
william every time he is killed: “yeah but like i just dont feel like it you know”
dude I just relized i watched every signle matpat FNAF video from 2015--early 2023 at least 3 times im not a math expert but just imagine the 100+ (or a little less) theories hes made on the franchise i've watched them all 3 times at least this aint a flex, just a realization
i love ludwig and mats banter they re wholesome
48:25 “you would think it’d be over then, but it’s not” basically sums up fnaf as a whole
Ludwig's simplified recap actually worked really well for me to piece some things together that I hadn't prioe to this! Thanks Ludwig :))