Hoover Dam 1941 vs 2021
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This historical comparison looks at Hoover Dam in 1941 and in June 2021. Visit GreenValleyRadio.com
This historical comparison looks at Hoover Dam in 1941 and in June 2021. Visit GreenValleyRadio.com
In 1941, 5 million people were being sustained from the waters of the Colorado River. In 2021, its 40 million. I see a problem.
It was full on 1983 now do the numbers from that date. And it will fill back up again in the future.
ri mc - Amen! Folks need to remember that weather is a series of cycles which follows no standard pattern. The water will come back, eventually, and then the conservation will be… when is it going to stop? The tough thing is what is happening to the rock and dirt that is normally under water, yet now exposed. It is going to go through more contraction and expansion as result, and what does that do to the overall structure of the dam?
Shhhh. We can never talk about population. It can grow forever. Especially in a finite area. Meade and lake foul will never fill again, but the politicians will still be trying to add more people after all the water is gone. Totally insane.
@@at6686 You can't say it will never fill again. It did in 1983 and the weather is so unpredictable. Why do people cry when we don't get rain and cry when we get to much rain? Because they can't control nature.
@@rimc8783 Strictly speaking you are right. But 83 was a long time ago in this accelerated time of climate change. Trends are all one can extrapolate and the trend has been relentlessly warmer and drier and there is nothing to say that won’t continue. CO2 is now 419 the highest in 2 million years and going nowhere but up. The smart money, from scientists to governments (at least those without an agenda) is on warmer and drier. The longer we wait to face facts the less chance we have ( I think we have no chance) of making any progress.
Apart from the obvious and alarming drop in water levels, the dam it's self still looks amazing! Proper quality construction, elegant design. Incredible to think it is not far of a century old! I wonder how many structures made in the last few decades will still be standing strong in 90 years time...
What's the shelf life of a Florida condominium?
Visit Europe.
Maintenance is everything. Concrete doesnt last forever, not even 50 years without being maintained.
@@googleuser868 too soon....
The water level is lower because the dam is holding less water back 🤦♂️ it's been much lower before lol
It seems like the dam has become less fuzzy over the years
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Yeah thats because of years of erosion by the water
Yes yes, glad to see thats cleared up now. LoL
No difference until they seek funding.
I wish bigfoot would wander around the lake; maybe we could get a clear picture.
Finally someone did an excellent comparison video of Hoover Dam.... THANKS
So the Boulder Dam n Hoover Dam r the same? Didnt raalize that.
Hundreds of years from now, humans will look back at the Hoover dam structure the same way we now look at the Aqueducts built by the Roman Empire and just wonder about those times.
Brilliant engineering designed with a slide rule.
There are a lot of politics involved with the water being as low as it is now. While a drought is a problem at times, this has been an ongoing problem for many years now
It takes 1900 gallons to grow a pound of almonds in CA central valley. All subsidised by the gov. We don't need nuts.
@@mrmark8603 We already have PLENTY of nuts. We call them “politicians”…
All they had to do was raise the price of water as demand went up. But that doesn't win elections.
@@Distress. Everyone wants everything fr “free”…
Im pretty sure they have been destroying dams "for the fish". Then the creeks dry up and the fish die anyway. They rather just charge people more for water and pretend there is a problem with water by making a problem. They should just make more reservoirs like they did for the dust bowl.
I'm lucky enough to have visited Hoover dam (from Australia) when it was completely full, hopefully we'll see those days again when it's full to the brim.
My great grandfather was a Native American iron worker on the dam.
My grandfather was a worker on this bridge over the Sylvensteinspeicher: KLIPPENSPRINGEN AM SYLVENSTEINSPEICHER! // von der selbst gebauten Plattform?! kzhead.info/sun/e5dpfbp8hGiLZYU/bejne.html 2014 10 20 Sylvensteinspeicher Bayern: kzhead.info/sun/asindcagg4KwoHk/bejne.html If the water is away, a hidden and lost village come back (spooky, scary)! Bayerisches Atlantis: Das versunkene Dorf des Sylvensteinsees taucht wieder auf: kzhead.info/sun/aJqoc61taKCthok/bejne.html There are so many villages under European dams! What about US dams?
You don't get to complain about water levels when there's fountains, and water slides in Vegas.
Don't forget the countless golf courses and backyard pools in California, Nevada, and Arizona.
@@Reaper6207 But they tell you drink and flush less so we can play and swim and cut water to farms that grow food. Some very smart people in charge of water distribution. I think I will start a sewer water distillation plant and sell it for 5.00 a gallon.
Vegas uses very little water compared to surrounding states.
@@brocaraton because they have revolutionary efficient golf courses?
@@Reaper6207 actually... They kinda do. I remember watching (I think) a modern marvels episode when I was younger about a bunch of the various tech that makes Vegas work. One of the things I thought was particularly neat is that they utilize a recirculating method to catch and reuse as much sprinkler water as possible.
That is an incredible difference. Obviously many many years apart but still a great visual. I could see it was down a bit at first by the cliffs but then showing those towers really put it into perspective.
@Andrew that's nuts. And not just consistently down each year I'm guessing?
@Andrew makes complete sense. You can clearly see with all additional growth that the water level drops. Didn't realize that it was basically the only water source though.
And the concrete inside the dam is still curing.
...HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?!
@@daleburrell6273 It will take around 125 years for the concrete in Hoover Dam to completely cure: everythingwhat.com/is-the-concrete-in-the-hoover-dam-still-curing
@@mowcowbell ...WELL, SEND THE CONCRETE TO A SANITARIUM UNTIL IT'S CURED-(!)
@Raoul Duke...AW, WHAT DO THEY KNOW?!!
@@daleburrell6273 - You know that it will refuse to go because everyone knows that concrete is set in its ways.
A few years ago here in California experts said that the level in lake Don Pedro would never gain back its volume of water . The very next winter the lake rose and filled to capacity ,in one wet winter season , its called weather for a reason .
In that same year 2017 water spilled over the lake Shasta dam for the first time ever.
I'll bet it's low today! Troll.
@@mrmark8603 That's your first problem, betting, chicken little.
Thanks for the Dam tour, anyone have any Dam questions?
Do you have any Dam souvenirs
Where is the dam restroom??
These comments are just dam ridiculous.
@@DustyakaDD to dam bad
@@johnrau2873 can you get some dam water for the dam lake?
I once jumped across the mighty Colorado river. Less than 10' wide at Rocky Mountain National Park!
I bouhghts m'self a gallin a gas an a sodipop for a nickel! Thems were da days!
“It’s fucking sand” Sam Kinison.
Don’t send them water, send them u-hauls !
You live in a dessert pack your shit we're moving you.
@@davidhickenbottom6574 ahhhhhhhhhhh
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Oh OOOOOOOOHHHH
I Drove over the Dam in 1984 the Water level was still high. The 1983 El neno was amazing.
I was there in 1983 and the visual was to see, quite scary actually.
That much power must've been breathtaking.. you may have been one of the last people to witness it.
You are very lucky to witness that! Hopefully it will happen again soon!!!!
For what its worth, I drove across the Dam on my way to Cali in late 96 or early 97 (cant remember) and the water level was every it as high or higher than in these 1941 shots.
Well, no it wasnt. Because it was only twice at full capacity: 1941 and 1983.
@@Ganiscol 1941 was almost full, but if you look closely, the drum gates on the spillways are down in 1941, and full up in 1983 and overflowing like crazy into the spillways, I was there in March 1998, gates were partially up and just some water going into the spillways., so in 1998 the water level at the Dam was higher than 1941 but lower than 1983.
1941 was almost full, but if you look closely, the drum gates on the spillways are down in 1941, and full up in 1983 and overflowing like crazy into the spillways (search for videos here on that, are really crazy the water overflow even over the gates up) , I was there in March 1998, gates were partially up and just some water going into the spillways., so in 1998 the water level at the Dam was higher than 1941 but lower than 1983., so your memory is right !! :)
@@Ganiscol read and look closely, 1941 was not its highest capacityor level, was just to the border of the spillways, the drum gates closed it adds about 10-15 ft. More of level at the Dam, check videos of the overflow of 1983 They are Impressive !!
Very interesting video💜 I’ve been watching the levels fall, it’s crazy how much
Evel is looking down planning his bicycle jump over lake mead!
The rise in population in the American west was ASTRONOMICAL, and it is really no wonder they are having the water issues. Population of California in 1940: 6,907,387 Population of California in 2021: 39,237,836 Population of Nevada in 1940: 110,247 Population of Nevada in 2021: 3,143,991 Population of Arizona in 1940: 499,261 Population of Arizona in 2021: 7,278,717 All stats from the US Census.
Thank you for posting this. It’s been hard to see side-by-side visuals. You did a great job!
Besides the drop in the water level of the lake, the silt being brought down the Colorado River is being deposited in Lake Mead. So the lake volume is getting smaller from lower water levels and from silting filling up the river bed from the bottom.
It's not a "drought" it's too many people trying to live in a desert and have it all.
Some people don’t get it. But that’s exactly right. 1,000,000 people living in the desert take up a lot of water to do the things they want to.
And what state are you from?
I’m not even concerned about these idiots. I’d say when they run out of water “welcome to the desert, tough s hit”. Maybe then they’d wisen up and move somewhere that’s not completely idiotic to live.
Note vages uses 4 to max 6% in lake California 50% UT 12% az 25% and so on. 60% of water that goes to California is used for crops 10 to max 30% of those crops goes to the people and a quarter of that goes to different countries soo
To many people for what it was designed for.
Yeah it's expensive at first , but desalination should be seriously considered. Israel invested in desalination and they were able to transform alot of their previously unarable land into lush farmland.
Really?
You think this would ring a bell . It's only filled to capacity twice in 70 years . Yet building in the desert doesn't end . WAKE UP
And rainfall patterns constantly change (always have). That dam (and the others on the Colorado River) were built to control the massive, unpredictable floods that would happen.
Wow. I was there 14 years ago and they said the water level was low then, but it's dramatically lower now than it was when I visited. It's hard to get a true sense of scale from teh video, but I would guess it's down almost 100 feet from 2007.
Close 91 foot drop since 2007.
If you think about it, there's one good thing about these low water levels? Any deep, below waterline, inspections, maintenance and repairs that need to be performed on the dam, can easily be accomplished.
Awesome Video!
During evaluation of the sight for the bridge, the canyon walls around the dam were found to be cracked. Never to be filled again. Drought has always been and will always be.
Any links for info on that? You're referring to that new Tillman Bridge?
My goodness, this is extraordinary!
No one said it was going to last for ever, so be thankful for lasting the time it did...
This would be a good time to get that infrastructure repair done
Stop the weather modifications ,thats what stopping it from raining ,
So, when does the water levels get to low to run the turbines? That would add another serious problem to the region
I think another channel said electricity production was down 25% already ?
@@augustreil thx for this comment. Having to shut down the power plant will be a major problem.
@@jerryrigsit5400, You're welcome. I can't imagine if they start having power outages. I think this water shortage is going to effect everyone in America because they grow so much vegetables out there also ?
@@augustreil yup, and the farms are drilling massive wells which are compounding the issues. We get a lot of our veggies from Mexico and central America
@@jerryrigsit5400, Thanks and good talking to you !
There is the same amount of water on this planet as there always was, it moves around and freezes and melts. The Dead Sea was once an actual sea. We need to remember we are are just visitors, the planet is in charge. People have migrated for thousands of years to adapt to Earth's evolutions.
Migrated from where? 🛸 👾 🌏
@@umargiade976 from areas where water was abundant but dried up to where the water went to. People lived around the dead sea, when it dried up and turned into a desert they moved.
@@umargiade976 or....from planets that turned uninhabitable. I'm with the alien thing.
Unfortunately, tourists are now getting a fantastic view of the upstream side of the dam.
We have 8-10 times more people living off the same water, and people wonder why there's a shortage. Plus the fact they haven't gotten any snow pack or rain.
I'm thinking about the amounts @1:55 , all seems reasonable time to rise and lower. 1071 doesn't sound empty. If 1225 is full capacity
Keep in mind the dam is in a canyon. The lower the water gets, the narrower it also gets. This means (and don't quote these figures) that the top 50% may hold three times the amount of water then the bottom due to the width of the canyon. Furthermore, there are minimum headwaters required to spin the turbines (I believe it's somewhere around 600 feet) once you start getting close to that number, the dam is unable to operate efficiently, or even at all to generate power....just my two cents.
If those figures are right , why the worry ?
@@jonathanlloyd1824 not to mention sedimentation. That lake is nowhere near as deep as it was when it was created.
This is nothing, just wait for the next years to come. Get ready people.
Did they say that in 1953 when it was this low?
@Lynn Geek so basicly your mean too much soap in the dish washer.... good job Einstein.
Worst come we'll just have to bite the bullet and put the money in to the very expensive task of building and maintaining a desalination plant on the coast to filter the salt out of the salt water...
This is a comparison of Max and Min Levels, I am curious what the Average level is compared to the Max and Min.
The reason I made this is because I came across the 1941 footage as part of a separate project. If I had more public domain footage at my disposal of different years I would absolutely have included it.
@@nickseider you could check the historical data record maybe they have footage of the 1983 filled up.
Water is like health, only when you don't have it you appriciate it. Is a world wide problem not only in the US or the West. Among other things we must plant trees. We generate so much trash but we don't plant trees and take care of our soil. Life is miracle. The video is excellent and the music superb for it. Thank you!
We have too many people.
Everything goes in cycles , it will come back to normal !!
Interesting, thanx!!
In the keys, we mostly have peacock yards and basic landscaping. We are too busy fishing and diving to worry about a yard.
Concrete darkens with age, so I'm surprised at how little Hoover Dam has darkened in those eighty years. I wonder if that is due to the mix used to make it.
The concrete is cooled internally keeping it at optimal temp at all times. This is also how they cured the concrete as it was poured since its such a large mass.
They use Roman concrete...hence it was already there!!!! No horse and buggy did this.......
It used to move around a lot in 1941.
I wonder how long till we can possibly see the diversion tunnels that were cut so they could build this.
Are they under water?
@@umargiade976 they were
So, what about the time where it was not at maximum? was it never close to max other than '41 and '83?
Middle of the video is a shortlist of elevation by year. Lake Mead has been this low before in the mid-twentieth century. But the issue in recent decades is that the wet and dry cycles (which are multi-year cycles) are out of wack. The west is getting more and more dry cycles and fewer wet cycles, and that's having a long term effect on Colorado River water output and on the elevations of both Lake Mead and Lake Powell (further north). And there is a huge difference in amount of water people used from Lake Mead and the Colorado River in 1951 vs 2021. Just look at comparison videos of Clark County, Nevada (Las Vegas) satellite images over the decades. So in other words, the last time it was this low it was not nearly as big of a deal to the affected population at that time.
Do people still think the dam was for water? Megatron is about to wake up!!!
In 1956 Lake Mead was once 1083 feet in depth and in 2021 it is now 1071 feet in depth. So this is not the first time the lake was this low.
So is half full or half empty
Is the local water utility bills up?
I went across the dam many times during the early 80's and the water level seemed to be right below the rim. Over the years I would see the water level move lower and lower but now it's ridiculous.
If you look at the population data for Nevada, Arizona, and California, they all take a dramatic upward spike after the 80s.
Wow.
2:33 I am so scared of falling into the overflow
Creepy. Very creepy. And dark.
Watering Golf Courses tend to do that.
How many dams were build upstream sin the 40's? How many water canals were dough to water California fields since the 40's?
There is a little place in Boulder that has the best, most delicious pie.
Cherry pie?
I have no desire to go west, young man! Not even for the best pie. I applaud the patriots there, my battle is still coming.
How much lower and then no electrical production? It has to be close to that level by now.
83 - 2021 is kind of long between updates isnt it? Especially when the reservoir was full in the late 90’s- early 00’s.
They empty the water into the ocean to paint the water level line. Paint contractor has a contract.
It's Megatron's fault.
Damn decepticons!! Kind of like decepticrats!!
Calvin Johnson strikes again!
Vegas is the main culprit for the water level drop
I saw this thumbnail on my feeds and I thought it was Fallout New Vegas 😁
Was thinking of moving from Colorado to Phoenix to escape winters. Picked San Antonio instead.
My wife and I nearly moved from the midwest to PHX some 5 years ago but decided not to. I despise the midwest but so glad that we stayed put. TN or the Carolina's seem a much better choice.
I lived right around the corner from lake Mead and Hoover dam growing up, I got to see it in his prime in 1980s and 90s. But once we lose the water and once it gets severely low the dam will quit running and all hell will break loose not just for the damn but for the states needing water
Would have loved to see hoover dam as a baby
Lakes along the Colorado River have been drying up since the USA and Mexico signed a treaty a few decades ago to allow more water to reach the Gulf of California in Mexico for environmental reasons.
You're 100% wrong!
@@troymarkham9999 ok just Lake Powell and Mead. I left Laughlin Nevada a year ago after living in the area since 1988. I watched it happen.
No tripods in 1941?
What an incredible feat this dam is and look at what a complete example of human hubris sin city is.
1:00 bro this hits different fr
This is what drought does. We visited Hoover dam in 2008, the water level has gone down a lot since then and it was low in 2008.
Oh DAM
Population 41 compared to 21? Infrastructure developed to compensate as time went on?
Sorry folks, my wife keeps taking super long showers.
Showehead hittin that button. . Lol😂😂
I wonder if the absence of all that water, and the resulting lack of pressure on the dam, has authorities concerned for when it fills back up. It is 80 years old.
Bet there gonna have fun figuring that out when their dam breaks
Through computerization and sensors it should be possible to use much less water per person in 2021 than in 1941.
It is not entirely the amount of water used. It has something to do with it being a desert. Desert - "A desert is a barren area of landscape where little precipitation occurs and, consequently, living conditions are hostile for plant and animal life. The lack of vegetation exposes the unprotected surface of the ground to the processes of denudation." Wikipedia Our cave dwelling ancestors knew better than the morons coming out of college for the last 40 years.
This isn't really a drought for the SW. The ABERRATION was the wetness of 40-60 years, not the dryness that is finally 'normal.'
In early 2000s that water was way higher. How do humans think they can keep going ?
When the river flooded on a regular basis it was thought to be the normal cycle of events. Now we know that that was the peak rain fall for a hundred year cycle. Shut the fountains off, stop watering lawns, washing cars, learn to be frugal and start building desalinization plants now.
WATER & POWER!
*damn*
Wow, the environment was a lot shakier back then.
1986 radioactive boom air no water
So we have gone back to 1956 levels
The 1956 levels were with 1/3 of the population of today using Lake Mead water. Imagine how low the lake would be if the drought of 1956 hit with today's population.
I think that had more to do with Lake Powell filling up in Page, AZ
@@garcjr Considering the 2 diversion tunnels for Glen Canyon dam weren't closed off until Mar '63, that had nothing to do with low Lake Mead levels in '56.
Add at least 1 Billion more people with larger demand. Remember this was once a just a river.
Dammit !
God damn
1941 to 1983 = 42 yrs so around about 2025 more or less lake will be full again?
That would be nice to have happen!! Time will tell.
this is what happens when you farm in the the desert. For decades.
So where did the Dam water go?
California ALMONDS
That should build up little Pacific project
What’s the hold up with it ? Let me guess money ?
What's the Pacific project?
I was there in 1982 it was glorious and completely different than now including the add of that abomination memorial
Need to put some Flex Seal on that leak!
It's good, it stops people from wasting water.
No it hasn't. They are building splash pads and ponds around amusement parks, water parks, ocean aquarium still in phoenix area.
HOAs are still issuing fines if the grass in the front yard isn't green
Its beginning to look like game over
It’s almost like the dam is supposed to act as a reservoir, to provide water during droughts.
Unless you want to physically put a valve on people's houses and shut them off when they use 50 gallons of water each day, you can not stop them from draining the lake
Ask any dam questions you want!
Good time to do maintenance and upkeep